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Few bounty projects that became successful and trading on good exchanges failed to pay bounty hunters, few of them paid half of bounty hunters and ignore the rest.
1. Vidy
2. Nestree
3. Sero project

If you have any you more you can add don't hesitate, now is there any way to get rid of this problem? i know some will say its bounty manager's fault but now that this have happened is there any solution?

Out of the three projects you mentioned, only Vidy has a topic in the scam accusation board (link - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188913.0)

Why don't you create a separate topic for the other two? As a poster, I think you also need to provide more details as to why and how these projects cheated.

Bounty hunters should also learn how to create a flag if the projects they promoted violated the terms and scammed. Read this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165178.msg51824246#msg51824246

When the project is cheating bounty hunters, it is 100% sure that the project is not successful at all. They will end up runaway with investors money. Be careful with such projects.

Not really.

Just because a token is listed on an exchange doesn't necessarily mean that it is 100% legitimate, as demonstrated as your discovery here. Especially when you consider the fact that these entities are largely unregulated and there is virtually no oversight on any of the activties they do, let alone bounty campaigns.

I think you just need to be more careful. Do your own due diligence, try to pick bounties which you know are from known teams, and try to pick bounties which don't have a KYC clause that can be used against you.

True, and some projects don't pay because their sales are considered a failure and some of the projects that fail are usually going to return investors cryptocurrency. and after that they will not pay bounty hunter and make a statement about failure of their sale.

SERO actually paid but omitted those who violated bounty terms, they had some very strong guiding rules for their bounty. Well, I'm not in any way supporting them if actually you got cheated, why not create a detailed accusation with valid proof. It's really unfair for projects to reduce reward drastically with no reasons anyway, sometimes they find excuses not to pay and mainly it's not always the manager's fault although sometimes partly.

If you do not pay bounty hunters that means you don't value the community and without the community you can´t expect that your token will have a value because it will not be used by the community.

Nestree reward was actually reduced for reasons unknown to me, even though they distributed.  It's really unfair for projects to keep doing this to hunters, someone will genuinely promote your project and at the end stories will sprout just so the hunters don't get their complete reward. However, when making posts like this, you need solid proof to back it up, you don't just put up stuff without proper proof. Also, there is a section for scam accusations, learn to utilize it.

Is VIDY a successful project? One look at the chart is enough to confirm it's a dying shitcoin.

For the last 5 months it was listed it only went down lower and lower. Every week is a new lower low and lower high for this coin and it doesn't matter if Bitcoin is going up or down at that moment VIDY is being dumped into oblivion. Scam coins never succeed in the long run. Soon it's going to go below 0.001 dollar. Whoever bought that got fooled.

is it for those who don't pay at all then how about those who only pay half or a few? try to see MYO, a bounty that has been running for 1 year and see the price now that starts moving pump again

A promising project that ends in drama, huh? it has been a recurring episode throughout mid-2018 to the present. There are many projects that look promising, attracting considerable investor interest, but end up drama when listing so that it impacts on the bounty. I don't know what scenario is played, whether it is purely due to a bad market or part of the scenario that has been set up in such a way. Many are harmed, of course. But what can we do? that's the risk.

As far as i know vidy was paying the hunters but it was putting a limitation for each bounty hunters will not get more than 10k vidy coins. I have seen some people have been complaining caused by they are not getting the payment that they deserved to get it. It's the fault of the team, in my experience, the vidy bounty manager has already made a calculation based on what already promised by the team from the start but the developer was fooling the hunters and managers to pay a little number of coins. Vidy is the best example of how the developer is the main problem in the failed of every campaign because they can't be trusted. The solution is to give pressure to the developer to pay what they have already promised. In this case, the manager is not a party who can be blamed because it has a responsibility to manage and maintain the campaign based on the developer's instruction.

Yeah, in my opinion, there are also several projects registered in the exchange that do not pay the bounty hunter, this may have been experienced by hunter friends here, yes, including me too, but sometimes it is difficult to avoid them because from the initial agreement all projects promise allocation for participants.

I do not think there can be a total solution to that, but in a way, it can be eradicated, through prompt alarm. Although, this has happened many times, but the point of defence gas always been that, they have the right to change anything, which is not always good, most especially when it comes to the distribution of rewards.

Stories that bounty projects do not pay this is not news. Very few of those who pay and even fewer of those who then become successful. This is a common situation.

Some Dev don't want to give any token to bounty hunters. Vidy was giving only 5000-10000 Vidy to every bounty hunter. Although they had rules to submit KYC but then few tokens give to bounty hunters. Without KYC I missed my huge rewards from TEMTUM campaign.

There are bounties like Yamzu and Gigtricks that I have not been getting reward since last year. Most of us face such a problem and for now the only solution is not to fall into this trap. There is no institution to regulate this system, so we should regulate this system ourselves by not scamming. Honestly, if we are careful about such problems, not earnings, we can get what we want.

There are a lot of them I guess, but I like to give one that is already in exchanges but did not pay their participants.
[ANN] TOKENPAY ⚡ SCAMMED 1 MILLION $ FROM BOUNTY AND REFERRAL PROGRAM ⚡ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2400499)

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/tokenpay/

bounty hunters could have sold their reward when the price was still high if they pay their effort.

Not every projects which is reject to pay bounty hunter was made by Bounty Manager. All of that decision is depend on project team. No matter how good the Bounty Manager doing his duty, but if the team refuse to pay the hunter, so game over. The only solution are doing escrow to BM before campaign begin or in the middle of it.

it's better than nothing. I followed RewardMob and got nothing at all. even though at that time rewardmob was already listed on the market or exchangers from the waves and the price was also good. but at the end of the period there was not even one bounty hunter paid.

Definitely true.  And if a project's coin starts its life off scamming bounty hunters, that's not a good predictor for its future success.

What can we do about this crap?  Nothing except for bounty hunters to stop giving these scam projects free advertising up front and then hoping to get paid in the end.  The only solution to this that I can think of is for the project to pay the bounty hunters with bitcoin and to put the funds in escrow when the bounty begins.  That's usually how legitimate signature campaigns work, and there haven't been too many instances of campaign members getting scammed.  At least not nearly as many as with bounties.

But I'm sure that's been suggested before, and it doesn't seem like bounty hunters speak up for themselves for whatever reason.  Since that's the case, they deserve what they get in my opinion.

this case is the same as the jinbi tokens that they don't pay bounty hunters at all and three projects are still good they want to pay half of the gift allocation but if you feel this is unfair, please post it at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 and attach evidence so that there is a response from the project

Yes, things like this have happened a long time ago. Usually related to the rules of the bounty manager or the developer directly. What is clear is that these projects have failed in the understanding of bounty hunters. Because failing to pay or just half the same as lying to them. And successful projects also cannot be said that entry into large and volume exchanges. A successful project is one that can last 5 years.

This kind of situation happened all the time. If the project's good then they have some good liquidity on the market they will not allow the market to crumble by paying massive bounty hunter their rewards. This is not good its like hoarding the supposedly money of someone else work which they are keeping.

Good thing I'm not affiliated with any of those mentioned.

The issue returns to the manager as those who hold the bounty power for the campaign and distribution. But it eliminates problems like this I think it would be hard to get back to each manager how they manage it. I hope the bounty hunters pay well so their time is not wasted while doing the promotion.

I used to follow vidy, and it seems like all participants in the second distribution were given the same number of tokens. until now I ignore, because the price is not feasible, even though the project was successful, but they left their supporters, and no one can change their decision

Many gifts have been successful and listed on the exchange but have not paid bounty participants, one of them is BUDDY (BUD) because I am one of the bounty participants who did not get the rewards of hard work, the solution is to destroy altcoin by spreading the truth that they are scammers so that investors are not want to invest in altcoin.
So that no one is a victim, it is better to have an escrow when the bounty starts.

Last two years many bounty campaign success for trading and listing on exchange market, I like with bounty campaign distributed faster based on hoe schedule planning, but with many bounty campaign always delay for distributing is not good bounty campaign for joining and give or distributed after coin price down and low.

These are some of the main issues involved for bounty hunters when doing the initial work up front and waiting sometimes weeks or months to receive the reward or not getting rewarded at all, but if you focus on improving your ranking there are campaigns that have better rewards which can be more beneficial

Bounty projects that do this needs to be crucified somehow, at least they have their ANN page on this forum to begin with, we can't just sit back and watch this people hurt bounty hunters after their project became successful

What OP said is true, Nestree paid half of the bounty hunters and refused to pay the rest, many hunters have complained on their telegram group and the admin direct them to a guy named micheal loon but the guy just disappeared without solving anyone's issue, so rude of them

Scam accusation post is been created for vidy coin but i don't know about the rest but i never get paid from sero bounty, i wrote articles for them and what surprised me was a friend of mine got paid, for a project that was so successful yet they ignore hunters of their rewards

Please try as possible to create new post about these nestree and sero in scam accusation thread and drop good evidence too, i am sure you and other bounty hunters can get help

many Bounty hunter complain to vidy team , they forget hunters work for several months. Moreover they raised more than $40millions in their IEO. its so sad great project that collect much money didn't pay Bounty allocation fully. Beside of vidy , there are many successfull projects didn't paid at all Bounty hunter although their development still running.

Actually it's not about successful or not since if the ICO owners will think only to scam people here for sure they will do it on harsh way that's why we shouldn't rely on bounties and I encounter a lot of them even before where bounty campaign is so alive.


For scammers who do a successful ICO for sure they will not care anymore about their ANN since in the first place they got the money they wanted already and eventhough bounty hunters will comeback unto them via there ANN thread for sure they will just laugh since they earned already. Maybe the best thing to do for that guys is to sue them on court if they are identified.

Tokenpay
Buddy

The project was also successful until it was traded, but they did not want to pay the bounty

The bounty manager should ask for payment before the bounty starts, or keep the bounty allocation in escrow

Every single projects that scam bounty hunters or neglect them after they list on good exchanges with good trading volume don't know that they are doing themselves, once a scam accusation is in the air it will ruin their reputations, words travel faster

You can also add Atlant bounty before they did not paid well bounty hunters with the allocated amount stated in the bounty thread only few got the rewards because they paid 1 eth to be able to received it shows like you bought the token from them while worked for months. Shame on this project and team members, what a trash people conducting bounty and failed to payback to community bounty hunters.

whether you like it or not bounty managers are responsible for this, sometimes when joining bounty projects always consider checking out the reputation of the bounty manager, they are the one to go against projects that rip bounty hunters off

Create a proper scam accusation thread. Gather proof and vouch from other bounty hunters that can back you up. Are you sure they "scammed" rest half of the users? Or did they get disqualified from receiving rewards because they broke some rules and now they are blaming the manager or the project creator? I am asking this because any successful project won't be taking such risks of scamming people for just few tokens!

Nestree bounty campaign manage by bounty manager btcledger, I think he always distribution coins in long time and I faced with his coin distributed more than three months later after bounty ended. After ICO ended and bounty finish coin listed with higher price, but distributed after three months later price of my coin down and I have get little reward from my bounty campaign.

You can't blame bounty managers because most times they won't be the one to do the distribution, after bounty ends they just have to submit the spreadsheet and the project team will do the distribution

People should understand that in fact many exchanges take money for listing tokens,,, some exchanges do not even really care about the token. Give them a copypaste whitepaper and some random CEOs and they will take your money and list any kind of token. Some do not even ask for kyc or wp!

And like you said, bounty hunters should blame themselves. Stop promoting stupid projects with endless shills and pick a few good projects to actually truly support and use.

I only joined SERO project and this project had paid me in bounties but I have listened that there are many bounty hunters which had not been paid.this is really hurting situation.

It was there that I also began to suspect when tokens had not been distributed. The price jumped but after wanting to be distributed to the prize hunters, the price dropped further, is this a team play like this? I feel like Mycro's Jobs work was a good price at first, but before it was distributed to hunters the price got worse.

I don't get how come it's the bounty manager's fault? If they are doing their job correctly, you really can't blame them. Even if the project failed to pay bounty hunters, are you sure that the related project was a success one? Trading on a good exchanges doesn't always mean that it has a good price.

Getting paid half of the supposedly reward is a lot better than nothing. As you know, some participants might complaint about not getting paid, but are they sure that they've been following all the rules? Some bounty even requires you to do some kyc before you get paid. And with a period of time, when the time's run out, and they haven't done it, they blame the bounty manager and the team. Funny, right?

The manager already made the ANN thread like a scam accusation thread, however the manager has a bad reputation so the community might be having difficulty on which side to stand, but based on the evidence presented which only the manager presented, I believe that the team are really scamming their bounty hunters, what they do is they blame the bounty manager that its cheating, but bounty hunters should still be compensated.

it's common at bounty, there are a lot of scam projects that don't pay us,
so we must to have knowledge of a good bounty manager and a good project, if you have analyzed it and you're welcome to join, good luck  ;)

you can report the manager if ever you are sure that it his fault on why you guys dont get paid  . you know some bounty managers are responsible for whatever the outcome is but some managers gives a warning that he is not going to accept any complains because he didnt know iether if the campaign that he manage is a scam or not  .  its okay if you wont get paid but the bounty is scam but if you dont get paid despite of the succes of the bounty then that is not good anymore .

But at least bounty manager should strive for bounty hunters to get paid because he just one person who can contact the developer of the project. Even, he should knows the type of scam project and legit project before he accept an offer to run bounty campaign.

So, I just thinking that the task of the bounty manager is not just to make spreadsheets and distribute tokens when the bounty has been ended, but he must be able to assess the credibility of a team that handles the project. Even, that is the point that should be have by all bounty manager.

I ever experienced such problems because the project has an unprofessional team and should it not blame the manager because there is no connection with the project he manages. I ever heard of that's three projects and we should be more careful again when participating in bounties. now there are a lot of scam projects that don't want to pay bounty hunters, so before participating we have to check who the team is working behind it.

The project from the start are very mesmerising and try their best to caught the attention of many crypto enthusiasts here as well as those prospective investors that will able to support the project. I experience a lot of bounty projects as they promise from the start but in the end it so frustrating and very disappointing moment.

I haven't heard of these projects but I guess we shouldn't support this kind of project. I have experienced the same thing before and I understand the feeling of bounty hunters being unpaid. It's really frustrating because we have invested our time and effort into this. We can't do anything about this but we could warn everyone to get rid of these kinds of bounties.

Most bounty managers only look after the bounty program and drop spreadsheet to project teams for distribution which is why shits happens, bounty managers are suppose to hold the tokens in the first place and distribute

You are right, bounty managers are doing their part in the right way, but only companies are delaying our payments. Within one month they are sending the spreadsheet to the companies, but the problem is with the companies, they are delaying the distribution and which some companies are blocking from their telegram groups.

its totally wrong if we blamed bounty manager about distribution , did we know that developers team that hold token so BM could not do anything with this.  From the beginning we have to understand their job descriptions, they just Managing campaign and calculate stakes for each weeks.  And choose Bounty manager with  good reputation be the solution for us, they will help us to drive distribution to core team caused it rellated with their name.

Double job for bounty managers, but although some of us comment like this, which like we already know it is developer's job to distribute bounty rewards, usually in telegram a lot of people still ask bounty manager why not get reward yet. Usually what they do after they done with spreadsheet, they will give it to developer's team and then they only need to update information that given by developer.

The real problem is we don't know exactly how to avoid these bounties which only scamming their participants. Before and until ico ends, they are pretending to be a legit project with successful raised funds, but who knows what will happen after that?
To those who suggested to create a flag, is there any advantage to create a flag on throw away account?

It is difficult to make the right judgment about the success of a project, including the bounty hunter manager.

OP did change the title of the ANN thread into SCAM" and he was also not paid for by the team.
The team even blame the manager for cheating, but even if that's true, it's still not right not fulfill their promise, why not exclude the cheaters and paid those who are honest, they don't really want to pay so they are just making excuse.

if bounty hunters can't crucify them, it is their reputation that is being affected, so this project has sure no future.

did you ever get to find out if the team approves bounty manager not distributing the token yet until 3 months later?

i have joined some projects in the past which distributed the coins after a year, its surprising because the coins were already in the exchange for months and the team could have been dumping and buying tokens for their stashes. after some time they decide to distribute the coins which before the dumping its worth 0.11USD before the day of distribution the coins price took a nose dive to 0.009USD and then the bounty manager distributed the coins. very sneaky team.

This issue comes from the project team not bounty managers, remember that when you are about to join a bounty you will be asked to join the project telegram channel as well, most times when bounty is over if you ask about bounty payment in bounty channel you will be told to ask the team, the only way to avoid this is follow a reputable bounty manager like bubbalex, he takes his work very serious

Indeed there are some projects that do not pay for the participants other than the projects you mentioned above, I am not sure whether the project did not pay participants because they did not succeed or because the team deliberately did not want to pay for it. Maybe bounty hunter has experienced it, for example trimming allocations at the end of the campaign without any negotiations with participants.
Twists and turns the bounty world is like this, nothing works smoothly. I am not sure if there is a way to overcome this

There is if all the ICO are regulated, with that those scammers will hesitate of scamming people because they know the authority can go after them if they scam people, sadly, the set up of ICO is not regulated so it was abuse, if we got scam we might not lose our money but we lose our effort doing the job.