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Title: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Ken_terrance on December 27, 2019, 10:11:59 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: zhekinsp on December 27, 2019, 10:22:00 AM
Almost all the crypto currencies lost its value from all time high but this is not the real reason for people to hate! More and more new cryptos but everything turns into scam so people actually lost interest on new cryptos which also affects the price of old altcoins and also the trend of crypto price market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: christian07 on December 27, 2019, 12:24:35 PM
I agree that some altcoins are better to use and not all example of that are eth,bch,xrp,ltc,dash,doge that turn useful and helpful for long

But there's a lot of alts and tokens here that not useful at all then they only grow at first but after few months or a year they turn really low or unfortunately they will be gone then that's why many think alts,tokens are just nothing


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Samayuki on December 27, 2019, 12:34:49 PM
Everyone should only invest in top altcoins if you plan on holding for long term, most new altcoins are good for short term holding, once they surge in value just sell off and move the money into another old altcoin unless the new altcoin delivers something entirely very new and promising, too many repetitive projects nowadays


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Natalim on December 27, 2019, 12:45:24 PM
Some loss confidence on altcoins while some still believe, .. that's normal in the crypto space.
And I admire the way you think OP, I also believe in altcoins (of course those legit only) and I will only stop believing when BTC had its new ATH and they still remain worthless, with that I can accept that there is no chance anymore.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Capt00 on December 27, 2019, 12:49:24 PM
If we are holding those potential altcoins, it is absolutely nothing wrong but we are having those dead coins, it is just a waste of time.
Yes, it is obvious that we are focusing on Bitcoin right now and we neglect any chances that may altcoins have in the future.
Some altcoins still at good price, not really big as what it showed last 2017 but I believe that we could still be profitable of having these altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: TravelMug on December 27, 2019, 12:54:18 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

This image will show you the state of the top 10 altcoins.


https://athcoinindex.com/

So I don't know how you can say that they're doing fine, still way below their ATH, 80%-90% down. I would understand though that this is a good opportunity to buy cheap altcoins and look for the look term prospect of getting a huge return when the price reaches their ATH again.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kaneki007 on December 27, 2019, 01:00:01 PM
I have many erc20 tokens that I got from the bounty campaign and hope that when bitcoin goes up altcoin will follow the price. I know now most of the erc20 tokens are dead because long bear market but I am still waiting for everything to come back.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Jating on December 27, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Of course, nothing is wrong with the top ten altcoins, the problems lies on those shitcoins and tokens that are being used for pump and dump scheme. Remember that almost all altcoin have bitcoin pairings so obviously they will be affected as well.

And then there are altcoins investors who decided to shift to bitcoin for now because of the current state of the altcoin market. And that is how crypto market works, people juggling around and put there money where it has a greater chance to profit which is bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Pinkris128 on December 27, 2019, 01:12:25 PM
I understand that most altcoins don't have any good value that makes it not reallt worth it for investment, but there are still altcoins that are worth for investment like the top 10 altcoins in the market such as ETH, BNB, LTC, XRP, etc, and i hold some of these coins because they are good for trading and it still gives me a good proft, even they do not have a good price today.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: fauzan Ichsan on December 27, 2019, 01:19:15 PM
altcoin that does not have a product and a large community, so they cannot survive, this is like a natural law, they are not able to adapt, so thrown out of battle. so when bitcoin rises, they are unable to follow it, due to the lack of trust from investors


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ampere on December 27, 2019, 01:21:46 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I think when investing., you need to put emotions aside and focus on the business aspect
Haring or loving any token is wrong when investing
.
Truth be told, if bitcoin goes up to 20000$ and most altcoin fail to rise, or let's say your portfolio does not increase

Then your researches have gone wrong.. Take emotions out of the game, dyor and enjoy the dividends


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Palider on December 27, 2019, 01:30:12 PM
Altcoins like Ethereum, Litecoins and all reputable and coins that have real use case will increase price when Bitcoin price back again in 20,000$.
And many on the top altcoins are lose its value now when bitcoin increase price increase before.  Like ethereum that trading now in 120$ to 150$ unlike before that price is 500$ to 1,000$ .


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 27, 2019, 01:30:35 PM
The truth is that the last 2 years were a disaster for the altcoin investors.
Somehow the average altcoin investment seems to have a short period of profitability. And I talk here about the few honest coins.
They have been falling a lot, and not only compared with fiat, also compared with Bitcoin.

On the other hand some have risen quite a lot against bitcoin over time too, don't forget that. And that may happen again at least for a small number of altcoins. And if that'll happen some people that currently may be seen as bagholders... may become rich investors.

All in all, each altcoin investor should know (should have known!) that altcoins are riskier than bitcoin. The current state of things shows exactly how much riskier they are.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Sterbens on December 27, 2019, 01:36:46 PM
I have many erc20 tokens that I got from the bounty campaign and hope that when bitcoin goes up altcoin will follow the price. I know now most of the erc20 tokens are dead because long bear market but I am still waiting for everything to come back.

It is still difficult to wait for the ERC20 token to bounce back like 2017 even I have a few old ERC20 tokens until there is no price until now.
so don't expect too much from the ERC20 token for a long time except for the top altcoin, I don't think this will be shitcoin in the future.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: nreal on December 27, 2019, 01:50:59 PM
I don't like but I don't hate altcoins, I don't like altcoins that depend on bitcoin, The fact that the value of most altcoins in the market depends on the price of bitcoin,


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mcnocon2 on December 27, 2019, 01:53:15 PM
Those altcoins that have lost value in this bear market are the ones who have no usecase and real users on their platform. I must say that it is built on hype and promises,its impossible for them to say for a few more years. Pick the altcoins who have a real usecase that can be used by real users.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: lionheart78 on December 27, 2019, 01:54:49 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Are you sure BNB is doing fine?  After its ATH of around $40  it goes down to $13.  Many investors thinking that BNB is doing well had lost a lot after the hype of this coin is over.  

And I think there is something wrong if an altcoin that caters fund from crowdfunding started to lose value from its original ICO price.  


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: asriloni on December 27, 2019, 02:03:35 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
They are not doing fine and if you make comparison about how much those altcoins are getting lose from the ATH and then altcoin will be getting more percentages.
What makes us get more guarantee if they are popular coin and they have big name among the crypto users. Maybe you are saying if you are feeling fine right now if you are even getting a loss on those coins but not for those people who have bought those coins at ATH.
Some of them even feel depressed caused by that.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: imutlinda on December 27, 2019, 02:17:30 PM
but bitcoin is profitable this year, when the pump price movement some time ago and also altcoin which can benefit people who do daily trading. so actually disappointment will always be there when we can not take advantage of opportunities, because there are still some people who can profit in the current market conditions


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mobilestrike on December 27, 2019, 02:23:07 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Actually the real issue is with market as when the market crashed then bitcoin along with all altcoins dropped down but now the market is growing and when the price will reach to $20k then all of the altcoins will start to rise. You may remember that when the price reached to $20k in 2017 then even the crap altcoins increased its value. The same will happen again. So if you have any coin just hold them and wait for the good market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: marcous on December 27, 2019, 02:28:10 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins



That's why you need to analyze Altcoin before investing. In difficult times like this, it is better to secure capital first than to invest in coins that are less volume and there is no progress. I personally prefer to choose the short term when trading than hold coins for now considering the price of Bitcoin is still down.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cytpoway121 on December 27, 2019, 02:30:55 PM
I wouldn't agree
For me there is a lot wrong with altcoin

80% altcoin have no value for the society which literally affects the few valuable altcoin

There's a need to find a balance between valuable and negliable altcoin


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mrdeposit on December 27, 2019, 02:34:47 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well?
I think the majority issue is that the prices do not match with previous ones. Because while ethereum's price was $1.4k in bitcoin's $18k time, the ethereum is $130 in $7k. According to this calculation, the price of the ethereum should be around $400-500.

Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Is ethereum crap?  ???


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: hahay on December 27, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
How are you so sure altcoins will fail to rise too when bitcoin can reach 20k again? keep calm because even the journey to reach that value has not yet begun but you are already pessimistic like that, still to be confident and also, no one will be willing to invest long-term in shit coins and you already realize it.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: pikkie on December 27, 2019, 02:44:45 PM
How are you so sure altcoins will fail to rise too when bitcoin can reach 20k again? keep calm because even the journey to reach that value has not yet begun but you are already pessimistic like that, still to be confident and also, no one will be willing to invest long-term in shit coins and you already realize it.
I think when the price of bitcoin can return to its highest price again then it can give effect to various types of altcoin because surely there will be many traders who arbitrate that will take advantage of the difference in bitcoin prices from various exchange places so that many will use altcoin as a transaction arbitral and can provide altcoin price increases.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Ahimoth on December 27, 2019, 02:45:54 PM
I have many erc20 tokens that I got from the bounty campaign and hope that when bitcoin goes up altcoin will follow the price. I know now most of the erc20 tokens are dead because long bear market but I am still waiting for everything to come back.

Despite of the death of altcoins due to bearish market, it's not yet over since people are still hoping for them to arise at any moment. We don't know the exact date for that, but still many individuals are still looking forward for when it will begin to correct all the underlying problems that made it drowned for two years.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Byakuga on December 27, 2019, 02:50:53 PM
Most altcoins depends entirely on bitcoin, this is what i hate about altcoins, only very few altcoins don't depend on bitcoin but since bitcoin is the mother of all coins they will always benefit from surge, be careful which altcoins you keep, someday they might be worthless


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: lienfaye on December 27, 2019, 02:55:57 PM
There's nothing wrong in altcoins if you are holding a well established alts, its normal for the price to swing and because btc is the major pair in exchanges the price of other alts tend to go down if the value of btc is declining.

Moreover holding alts are risky if the one you bought is shitcoins thats why its best to choose a popular coins to make sure they will recover once the market turns better.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: meldrio1 on December 27, 2019, 02:56:53 PM
of course big loss for you if you invest in shitcoins. There is nothing wrong if you invest a trusted coins like in the top coinmarketcap they are good to hold for long term.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: airdnasxela on December 27, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
Nothing is definitely wrong with altcoins. But not all altcoins. Of course there are shitcoins. But there are a lot of altcoins there who's doing well and have great potential to do well in the future. But we cannot remove that some altcoin are just following Bitcoin.
We all have our own opinion with altcoins. If others don't like altcoin, then let them


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 27, 2019, 02:59:08 PM
People are blaming altcoin because they didn't sell the altcoin when the price reached the highest price. They want to make a bigger profit even they already see the biggest profit that they can take. That is because they are too greedy for making the biggest profit. But if they understand that the price will go down after reaching the highest price, the price will not stay at that price, and it will go down whether you like it or not. So while you can see the price increase so high, you need to sell your altcoin before it's too late to realize that the price goes down. If you still hold your altcoin, then you will regret it later.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: raes on December 27, 2019, 03:00:23 PM
of course big loss for you if you invest in shitcoins. There is nothing wrong if you invest a trusted coins like in the top coinmarketcap they are good to hold for long term.
if you want to invest in shitcoin at this time, of course, it's a stupid choice. but if he buys when it still has value and now falls almost without trading it is a loss. but who knows now the market conditions are indeed a lot of coins that die and can not develop anymore. but this condition gives us the experience to see the project in the long run. at least after 1 year, their development can survive in the market or it's not working.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Landak on December 27, 2019, 03:04:43 PM
those who blame altcoin are actually just wrong in choosing the time to buy and sell when prices go up and down, on average they say that because they hold it in the long run and do not get the results as expected.
I don't mind altcoin or bitcoin which dropped from 20k to 7k, because I have felt the price of bitcoin when still around 150$
So altcoin or bitcoin nothing wrong, it is all of us who are wrong, who cannot understand market conditions. Don't hate altcoin, hate yourself.


Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Is ethereum crap?  ???
It seems to be caused by the number of erc20 tokens that are scam and have no value on market and ultimately have a bad impact on ethereum (maybe).


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: d3nz on December 27, 2019, 03:10:19 PM
of course big loss for you if you invest in shitcoins. There is nothing wrong if you invest a trusted coins like in the top coinmarketcap they are good to hold for long term.
if you want to invest in shitcoin at this time, of course, it's a stupid choice. but if he buys when it still has value and now falls almost without trading it is a loss. but who knows now the market conditions are indeed a lot of coins that die and can not develop anymore. but this condition gives us the experience to see the project in the long run. at least after 1 year, their development can survive in the market or it's not working.
There are some sh*tcoins a re really good for making a profit but it will depend if it has a large volume within the 7 days and where exchange it is trading because we need to determine if its good or not. Ans we all know that there are a lot of dumpsters are waiting for the price to pump up a little bit then sell off.

Much better to always put your investment into Bitcoin altcoin and few sh*tcoin that has potential only to increase its value in the future.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mobilestrike on December 27, 2019, 03:11:02 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well?
I think the majority issue is that the prices do not match with previous ones. Because while ethereum's price was $1.4k in bitcoin's $18k time, the ethereum is $130 in $7k. According to this calculation, the price of the ethereum should be around $400-500.

Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Is ethereum crap?  ???
At the time when the price of ETH reached to $1.4k everything was much better. All of the coins were raised on a large scale. All of the investors were confident with their investment in crypto and many investors were putting all of their money in crypto so the price reaching to that value was not hard. Now many people are confused and when the market will again run in green without any red then again we will see a situation like that.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Maslate on December 27, 2019, 03:23:44 PM
Some would think that even ETH are crap altcoins.
if they invested at peak and they are still holding until now, they'll think they already loss 90% of their money and they'll regret.

to call it a crap or not, this depends on our own evaluation as we all don't have the same evaluation in every coin we are investing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: JC btc on December 27, 2019, 03:29:26 PM

At the time when the price of ETH reached to $1.4k everything was much better. All of the coins were raised on a large scale. All of the investors were confident with their investment in crypto and many investors were putting all of their money in crypto so the price reaching to that value was not hard. Now many people are confused and when the market will again run in green without any red then again we will see a situation like that.

Yes, nothing is wrong with altcoins, the only thing it's wrong is that people and greedy persons are taking advantage of it. Also, there's a lot of greedy CEO or founders that are taking advantage of it, that turned out to be scam. Altcoins are good too for the legit one as they are contributing with the prescence of cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: perla on December 27, 2019, 03:56:17 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Lose or profit is all about perspective. Not only what you mention about crap altcoins or good altcoins. In price also can really affect on what people will get. People who buy in high price might  be blame altcoin because they lose, but if they buy in low price, they wouldn't do it.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ragavancoin on December 27, 2019, 04:05:41 PM
I think always safe our investment if we have invested in altcoins which is top in crypto market like eth, tron, ltc, BNB more and it will be depending on bitcoin price ALWAYS because when bitcoin price has been peak around $20k all other altcoins performing well but now crypto market condition is really bad and we can see how crypto market going Performa next year.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 27, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
I think always safe our investment if we have invested in altcoins which is top in crypto market like eth, tron, ltc, BNB more and it will be depending on bitcoin price ALWAYS because when bitcoin price has been peak around $20k all other altcoins performing well but now crypto market condition is really bad and we can see how crypto market going Performa next year.

I think nothing is safe from any cryptocurrency investment even it's bitcoin because this world is centralized and everything is on the internet which must be have the weakness of it's security.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: enhu on December 27, 2019, 04:22:19 PM


Don't get too hateful to the altcoins, it may just be the only you can have with so little USD you have today. I did listen to the fud during the time when ETH's price was less than $3 now that I can't have 10 of it with $1000. Today you still can buy a ton of the altcoins you wish to invest, take time to see which one you think may rise above to be more than just an altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: dothebeats on December 27, 2019, 04:25:36 PM
From a trader's perspective, absolutely nothing is wrong with altcoins. They have their own season just like what bitcoin experiences on its highs and lows. The mere fact that altcoins are still worth more than hundreds of millions on their own is a testament that people are into it, albeit only for profits and not mainly innovation and development. Anyways, for as long as dev teams and altcoin providers DO NOT scam nor try to game their investors, I'm all good with it. Just look at what ETH has brought to the community with its dapps and other apps built on it, plus an honest and brilliant developer in the face of Vitalik Buterin.

If all altcoins are like ETH, then nothing really is wrong with altcoins at all.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Thomas-s on December 27, 2019, 04:36:00 PM
Do you really think that everything ok with eos? EOS costs $ 24 on its ATH, but now you can buy it for $ 2. this is a price drop for 12 times. for a coin with such a large capitalization, this is a very big loss. Iím not saying that altcoins are bad and you need to hate them, but definitely we all now understand that this is a very risky investment. but also those people who didnít buy EOS for $ 24 can now  can buy it for $ 2 and make good money in the future


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: CodyAlfaridzi on December 27, 2019, 04:36:09 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Not putting the blames in altcoin for crypto performace these few years. I'm inclined to be a Bitcoin maximalist because most of alts are crap anyway. It's just another tool for speculation with almost no development behind it. Well, there are some alts that are actively developed like ETH but most are not.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: stephanirain on December 27, 2019, 04:55:17 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

These dropping of prices of cryptocurrencies are pretty much normal. They're supposed to drop once in a while especially in this season where people becoming expensive so, they sold some crypto for fiat. We need to face the reality that fiat is still used more often when buying gifts because that's still the norm for most communities. But it is also the best time to buy crypto that can recover the price in 2020. Determining which of them is the real issue.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: DarkDays on December 27, 2019, 04:57:50 PM
Pretty vague to say that there is nothing wrong with altcoins. The truth is the vast majority of altcoins are utter garbage and shouldn't have any value whatsoever.

Most of these arose during the 2017 and early 2018 ICO boom, where people were just throwing money into the market with the expectation that any project with a viable purpose would eventually gain in value.

Now, in 2019 (almost 2020), we know better. Only the strong will survive and the vast majority of altcoins are not strong at all, hence why most are practically dead despite being born barely two years ago.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: letyouearn on December 27, 2019, 05:05:13 PM
One should just be careful now when choosing altcoins to invest in, it's not 2017, guys. Most of the crap you are still holding on your MEW will remain dumped and useless till the end of crypto. Face it and move on :)


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: 103deltafox on December 27, 2019, 05:09:10 PM
Well to some extent I will support you on this, the loss on Altcoin isn't strange because this loss is also affecting bitcoin, but that being said, to be safe, invest only on trusted Altcoins especially those with unique use case. Don't just invest in any altcoin you see because you feel there is nothing wrong in Altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: KimmyF on December 27, 2019, 05:33:17 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
I can't remember any time when Bitcoin raise up to 20K but altcoins fail to move up. There is no effect of altcoins in Bitcoin price, adjust opposite direction. Altcoins price fall because of Bitcoin price. ICO, IEO or STO all investment comes from Bitcoin and Ethereum, so this is the effect of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: confreslamp on December 27, 2019, 05:38:09 PM
Altcoins seem to be really down during the last several years, with almost no further perspective. The problem is still in BTC dominance, because it simply does not leave space for altcoins to develop and to increase in price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Xardasim on December 27, 2019, 05:44:41 PM
What I don't understand is that we don't like what we do. We're already the reason for this price volatility, price decrease and increase, scam and solid projects.
Well to some extent I will support you on this, the loss on Altcoin isn't strange because this loss is also affecting bitcoin, but that being said, to be safe, invest only on trusted Altcoins especially those with unique use case. Don't just invest in any altcoin you see because you feel there is nothing wrong in Altcoin.
The price of none of the traded assets remains constant, only the difference of cryptocurrency is that it is more volatile. When we take a look from this way, there is nothing to be understood, everything is obvious.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: oktana on December 27, 2019, 05:45:20 PM
op is more focused on altcoin that really functions and has good transaction circulation.

there is nothing wrong with that and all of them also do not have to just look at it from the perspective of price conditions that are experiencing a prolonged bearish. what needs to be analyzed is coins that do have endurance for long-term performance, these coins are always ranked at the top of coinmarketcap. and for other ranks only coins with unstable activity develop and rely on short speculation.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: pandanaran on December 27, 2019, 05:48:26 PM
yes, never take a short decision or judge cryptocurrency just because of a weak market situation, isn't the price of cryptoqurrency fluctuating? so I think this is normal. although almost all altcoins lose their value, that doesn't mean they will die. I am optimistic that the top coins will continue to grow and show their highest value again someday.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Hamphser on December 27, 2019, 05:50:18 PM


Don't get too hateful to the altcoins, it may just be the only you can have with so little USD you have today. I did listen to the fud during the time when ETH's price was less than $3 now that I can't have 10 of it with $1000. Today you still can buy a ton of the altcoins you wish to invest, take time to see which one you think may rise above to be more than just an altcoin.
This should be the OP should be doing instead of hating it. Altcoins has their own season to grow but i don't think altcoins won't grow when the bullish season of bitcoin started already. I know some altcoins who manages to get a price growth when there is a bull run. I think OP must be assuming that altcoins will have a bull run too if bitcoin have.  ???


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: JahriMeayer on December 27, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
The time for altcoin isn't right now so it's okay if you hate altcoin for now because if you don't hate altcoin right now you will buy altcoin and you will lose your money so don't hate anymore if the altcoin season starts because if you still hate altcoin, the price altcoin will still go up


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Wysi on December 27, 2019, 06:01:06 PM
Altcoins are indeed the future as there are really good altcoin projects and new technologies which we have got only through altcoin wherein bitcoin is traditional. No I don't think tenured users will blame altcoin for Bitcoin's price drop as altcoin has nothing to do with it, in fact it's bitcoin which plays major rule based on which the value of altcoins fluctuates.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: adzino on December 27, 2019, 09:04:43 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Your post sounds like you have bipolar disorder (no offense). Your posts has so many (mood) swings lol.
Bitcoin is at loss? Start comparing the price from the early, instead of just comparing it with the price of 2017. The price was 20k for just few days. It was around 17k for just few weeks before it started to drop. It dropped down to 3k and look at the price now. It is around 7300 USD which is a lot. Just look at the price in long term instead of look at short term price.
What crap altcoins are you talking about?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: tabas on December 27, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
The pairs of most altcoins are into bitcoin and this is the reason why many hates it when they see bitcoin struggles because altcoins are the next to struggle.
You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Yeah. They don't realize that they've invested to the wrong altcoins however, it's always a better choice to put bitcoin first in your priority.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: yulionoo on December 28, 2019, 03:16:56 AM
some crypto investors have now left altcoin and are focused on bitcoin. This is not Altcoins fault because right now we are on the bear market and bitcoin which is the reference for altcoin has also fallen dramatically. so it's only natural that the current altcoin value drops dramatically. but I am optimistic that when bitcoin can return to the price of $ 20,000 after halving the altcoin market will also pump up and turn green again. and I'm still optimistic that top altcoins like ethereum, EOS and LTC will pump high when bitcoin bull run. I agree with you op if later bitcoin can reach $ 20,000 but the top altcoin doesn't pump high then I will decide I will hate and sell my altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Adriano2010 on December 28, 2019, 03:20:14 AM
Indeed nothing is wrong with altcoins, the only problem i see is that over the years appear scam coins and also this contribute to price fall and also problem with some exchanges that was hacked, but now indeed many people focus on bitcoin, we all hope for a 2020 year much better for crypto.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ecnalubma on December 28, 2019, 05:20:36 AM
As Bitcoins value plunged every altcoin is affected because they are dependent on its value. If you put your money in the right coins thereís always a chance that you will recover your investment in the future If you havenít sold it already.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Ozero on December 28, 2019, 05:37:28 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
In the second quarter of this year, the price of bitcoin grew four times, and almost all altcoins remained at their previous price values. And this is not the first time that altcoins almost do not respond to the increase in the price of bitcoin. This caused many fears about the state of altcoins. However, I also think that everything is in order with altcoins. The market does not always respond equally to changing conditions. The time will come and altcoins will also grow in value.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: iram3130 on December 28, 2019, 05:47:03 AM
There are many people who hate alts like anything. They have lost more than 75% of their investment in the hope of having greater profit with alts. But in reality, btc was more profitable even in dumps. A new 2020 may bring some hope into the alts and some projects may excel in what they have promised.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: DevilSlayer on December 28, 2019, 05:50:34 AM
Indeed nothing is wrong with altcoins, the only problem i see is that over the years appear scam coins and also this contribute to price fall and also problem with some exchanges that was hacked, but now indeed many people focus on bitcoin, we all hope for a 2020 year much better for crypto.
You know what is wrong? It is the scam coins that are recently entering the market. I do not prefer altcoins that have low volume because it considered as scam coins where there is no development and improvement. There are altcoins that have greedy developers where after they raised a capital, they will just be gone and take away the money that they got from the investors. We should buy an altcoins that have good developers and have good volume in the market in order for us to not be scammed.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: bitcoin_paypal on December 28, 2019, 06:03:53 AM
The main problem of almost every alt - they useless


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: LouVandetta on December 28, 2019, 06:10:40 AM
I mean, I can't argue with that there are tons of people who don't believe in altcoins anymore due to how bad the market condition these past years.
Some might even lose interest to invest on alts and some might be a die hard believer that no matter what happens, they don't care.

Only few of altcoins that could survive in the market in the long run. Not to mention there are far too many shitcoins in the market. That, if you're not careful enough with your research you might see the worst outcome.

At least, so far, when bitcoin price has an increase, the other major altcoins will also do the same. And if bitcoin price goes down, you already know what will happen next.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: FairUser on December 28, 2019, 06:21:08 AM
The main problem of almost every alt - they useless
You are absolutely right, all altcoins in this market are useless. In the 2 years of operation, no altcoin has been applied to real life, and no altcoin really has a product. This is the main reason why thousands of altcoins crash in 2019 and I believe that by 2020, most altcoins will die and many investors will lose all their money


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: HabiebRiziq on December 28, 2019, 06:51:17 AM
yes, never take a short decision or judge cryptocurrency just because of a weak market situation, isn't the price of cryptoqurrency fluctuating? so I think this is normal. although almost all altcoins lose their value, that doesn't mean they will die. I am optimistic that the top coins will continue to grow and show their highest value again someday.
The cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Prices can rise at any time and at any time decrease and this is a normal thing in cryptocurrency, for me we have to do is how we can survive in any situation in cryptocurrency, do not be too fast in making decisions and do not take too much risk , it's better when the market is red not to rush into buying coins and looking for coins that have a great opportunity to be able to make a profit.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Genemind on December 28, 2019, 10:16:17 AM
Sometimes, our expectations only disappoint us. Kost of us is expecting a huge value out of our holdings. As for me, it's important that we'll know how to take advantage of every market situation. It might not be the best season for altcoins but top coins are still soaring. Let's just hope for the best this coming year.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Mega_crypto on December 28, 2019, 10:33:07 AM
Altcoins derivative of the first cryptocurrency depend on it. Although individual cryptocurrencies with a large market share, the same Ether, in principle, can themselves create demand, regardless of the demand for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: shiming on December 28, 2019, 10:41:23 AM
There is an old saying in China: existence is reasonable. Of course, because competitive currencies have been around for many years, there are reasons. Each competitive currency has its own characteristics and should be allowed to compete with each other in order for blockchain technology to develop. After all, blockchain technology has just begun.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: aubert on December 28, 2019, 11:03:04 AM
There are many people who hate alts like anything. They have lost more than 75% of their investment in the hope of having greater profit with alts. But in reality, btc was more profitable even in dumps. A new 2020 may bring some hope into the alts and some projects may excel in what they have promised.
most of alts are created out of thin air with the premise of an "idea" to back up its value meanwhile this "idea" doesn't really mean anything at all. It's not a rocket science to understand that most of alts are prone to dumping and will hardly being pumped again meanwhile BTC with its more matured market have equal chance of increasing and decreasing its price. I do agree with your statement that BTC even in the bearish market could still drive some profit out of the circumstances.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: sorrros on December 28, 2019, 11:03:48 AM
Yes, but people complain that altcoins dumped more, but they already forgot that altcoins are also growing more in a bull market.  :D


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: comchien on December 28, 2019, 11:05:52 AM
More and more new altcoins of projects are born, but for long-term development and development, I think it is very difficult, while old Altcoins are ranked top, in the long run, there is no potential for development. When buying and holding them, I will never buy and hold new altcoins in the long term and not in the top ranking.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mamesso on December 28, 2019, 11:10:24 AM
There is nothing wrong with Altcoin, the bearish situation experienced by the bear market is inevitable. Altcoin can still provide great hope, you name it like ETH, DASH, LTC and XRP, the top Altcoin is still very promising, although now experiencing a price reduction, but it can still provide great hope for traders. I personally prefer saving the old altcoin rather than the new altcoin, I personally prefer saving the old altcoin rather than the new altcoin, the old altcoin has been proven in the market, while the new altcoin still needs adaptation and there is no guarantee that it will last long in the market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: inanilujimi on December 28, 2019, 11:24:09 AM
The main reason people hate altcoin is almost losing 90% of investment if they buy at ATH, and it's very difficult to reach the peak value again even if BTC can already touch the new ATH I am very pessimistic that altcoin can keep up with the price of bitcoin.
The power of altcoin cannot really rise on its own unless there is power from bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: lolgato1 on December 28, 2019, 11:28:25 AM
You have to choose only altcoins that are constantly working hard on the project. Updating GitHub, active on social media sites and making partnerships even the market is crashing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: naikturun on December 28, 2019, 11:40:47 AM
when btc reaches ath 20k alt also follows, how do you say there is no alt that goes up, almost all alt goes up.
so when btc goes down, of course all alt also follow some things that don't survive and disappear, so it can be said that the project doesn't have a good performance so it is replaced by other projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: nicolas1979 on December 28, 2019, 11:51:12 AM
Altcoin that's already has track record ( above 3 years ) has biggest chance to survive, we can see from market chart and progress news. But new altcoin ( below 3 years ) are really non sense, too much promotion but has no good progress in development program only create garbage. Altcoin only follow bitcoin, as long they has good progress in development and combine with another platform, the price and volume will running well. Market movement based buyer and seller transactions, so nothings wrong with altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Bananington on December 28, 2019, 11:52:48 AM
But when BTC price increases in dollar value, other altcoins normally do same although mostly not with a wide margin. I also agree that we shouldn't just hold any altcoin for long term but ones with proven team transparency and devotion, and also good development. Also it's not so cool in my opinion holding so many altcoins waiting to see a positive outcome, it's better to draw a scale of preference and select a few for long term.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: anjiitem on December 28, 2019, 12:03:47 PM
One should just be careful now when choosing altcoins to invest in, it's not 2017, guys. Most of the crap you are still holding on your MEW will remain dumped and useless till the end of crypto. Face it and move on :)
This year is very different from 2017, we have to be very careful in choosing and making decisions because when we make a wrong decision it could result in losses and for me personally for now I would prefer to keep holding and waiting for the right moment to sell it or at least when I have benefited from these coins I will immediately choose to sell them.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: TheICE007 on December 28, 2019, 12:51:53 PM
Well the drop in value of altcoin has been so drastic when compared to the rate of fall of bitcoin, but in any case altcoins are not totally bad, there are still some worth holding, only such should be invested upon. Carry out research before investing on Altcoin you will find those good and profitable ones.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: volport on December 28, 2019, 12:55:13 PM
Such a strategy for sure makes sense, but you know, what I would also say - it is not easy to find multiple solutions that meet requirements. What I mean is evaluating the factors. From my point of view, platform must be advanced, innovative, reliable and, of course, bring real and practical value.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: govorrue on December 28, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Such a strategy for sure makes sense, but you know, what I would also say - it is not easy to find multiple solutions that meet requirements. What I mean is evaluating the factors. From my point of view, platform must be advanced, innovative, reliable and, of course, bring real and practical value.

Absolutely so and I fully agree with you that it is not easy to find several tokens that widen the horizons and set new standards on the industry. Talking about you, are there many solutions you can recommend in general?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: volport on December 28, 2019, 01:00:02 PM
Absolutely so and I fully agree with you that it is not easy to find several tokens that widen the horizons and set new standards on the industry. Talking about you, are there many solutions you can recommend in general?

Nope, I wouldn't say so. I am only having 2 or 3 most attractive ones I am following. And latest discovery I would definitely recommend everyone to have a look at - Intelligent Hero. Have you already heard of such a solution? Cause you know, in here guys are setting entirely new standards on the industry


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: govorrue on December 28, 2019, 01:04:15 PM
Nope, I wouldn't say so. I am only having 2 or 3 most attractive ones I am following. And latest discovery I would definitely recommend everyone to have a look at - Intelligent Hero. Have you already heard of such a solution? Cause you know, in here guys are setting entirely new standards on the industry

Intelligent Hero? Hmm, it seems that I haven't heard of such a platform before, can you please provide more details on what the solution stays for?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Kotone on December 28, 2019, 01:06:48 PM
Indeed nothing is wrong with altcoins, the only problem i see is that over the years appear scam coins and also this contribute to price fall and also problem with some exchanges that was hacked, but now indeed many people focus on bitcoin, we all hope for a 2020 year much better for crypto.

I thought you said there is none wrong about altcoins but you mentioned that many scam altcoins has been brought up into scene? Quite contradicting. Meaning to say, youre agree with altcoins inception and introduction but you dont like scam coins right? I guess that's a sort of weird reasoning. Bitcoin will remain intact and trusted but altcoin space is a huge group and admit or not many are not favor with most of them. Especially new projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: rahmathidayat93 on December 28, 2019, 01:10:50 PM
Such a strategy for sure makes sense, but you know, what I would also say - it is not easy to find multiple solutions that meet requirements. What I mean is evaluating the factors. From my point of view, platform must be advanced, innovative, reliable and, of course, bring real and practical value.
So far the platforms that are truly reliable and have progress are the blockchain platform and the ethereum platform, you can see carefully how many people use both platforms in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: volport on December 28, 2019, 01:19:00 PM
Intelligent Hero? Hmm, it seems that I haven't heard of such a platform before, can you please provide more details on what the solution stays for?

Yes, of course. In few words, the platform stays for widening horizons for everyone, who is interested in personal growth and self-development. Platform stays for giving such opportunities with great tech and usability balance. What I really recommend you to do - check out guys' explainer video available right on their website. And get back with your thoughts afterwards, curious to know ur opinion


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: govorrue on December 28, 2019, 01:27:39 PM
Yes, of course. In few words, the platform stays for widening horizons for everyone, who is interested in personal growth and self-development. Platform stays for giving such opportunities with great tech and usability balance. What I really recommend you to do - check out guys' explainer video available right on their website. And get back with your thoughts afterwards, curious to know ur opinion

So far sounds indeed attractive, let me have a look and get back. Thank you for your recommendation!


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Chainsmokers on December 28, 2019, 03:23:10 PM
Everyone should only invest in top altcoins if you plan on holding for long term, most new altcoins are good for short term holding, once they surge in value just sell off and move the money into another old altcoin unless the new altcoin delivers something entirely very new and promising, too many repetitive projects nowadays
There are indeed many new projects that only repeat what has been done. And for my own investment, I think for the moment I am not very interested in the new altcoin because it can be said to be able to generate profits from the new altcoin is not easy because most of the new altcoins are actually decreasing in price, so for now I personally will be more choose to invest in the top coins that can be spelled out to minimize the possibility of getting a loss or rather I prefer to play it safe now.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cassavachips on December 28, 2019, 03:45:36 PM
How about ethereum? isn't this a big project and not bullshit? but ethereum has experienced an extraordinary decline this year. Bitcoin is still a good value even if it goes down because of fast recovery but altcoin continues to go down some time and when bitcoin is recovered altcoin remains stable on price when it goes down.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: radjie on December 28, 2019, 04:17:57 PM
But when BTC price increases in dollar value, other altcoins normally do same although mostly not with a wide margin. I also agree that we shouldn't just hold any altcoin for long term but ones with proven team transparency and devotion, and also good development. Also it's not so cool in my opinion holding so many altcoins waiting to see a positive outcome, it's better to draw a scale of preference and select a few for long term.

if altcoin we hold has good potential for the future, I think altcoin is suitable for long-term investment. In fact, when bitcoin has increased in price, it is possible that some potential altcoins can move to follow the same thing, therefore I don't think there is anything wrong with altcoin if we are wise to choose several potential altcoins to invest


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Kersh768 on December 28, 2019, 10:08:31 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I agree. There is no such problem in terms of the Altcoins price because what we are currently seeing right now is the after effect of Bitcoin's price downfall in which most of the existing Altcoins within the market relies or depends their prices on it. It must be good to know that despite of the price downfall, still Altcoins have made it up to this point of time on surviving while Bitcoin have not full recovered its price yet. The downfall of Bitcoin do really affect most of the Altcoins which is normal and already have been natural scenario because it do always happen everytime Bitcoin's price fall. The only thing that can be wrong in talking about Altcoins is that most of them might look promising but you must be careful of that because looks can be deceiving so better choose a trusted and reliable altcoin so that your investment will be safe and your lon term wait will be all worth it once the market have recovered because surely, Altcoins will get along to its recovery benefiting us all.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 28, 2019, 11:13:19 PM
How about ethereum? isn't this a big project and not bullshit? but ethereum has experienced an extraordinary decline this year. Bitcoin is still a good value even if it goes down because of fast recovery but altcoin continues to go down some time and when bitcoin is recovered altcoin remains stable on price when it goes down.

No need to worry, the altcoin will increase in the future. When bitcoin is down, some altcoin is down too, but not all altcoin will go down because if you check the market, the altcoin is trying to recover in a hard time. Ethereum cannot increase this year because bitcoin is not rising higher, and bitcoin is just moving up and down. But if bitcoin gets a bull run, then ethereum with the other altcoin will have a bull run time too.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: tiptopgemdotcom on December 28, 2019, 11:49:21 PM
The established altcoins will not be delisted by the exchanges, the low market cap altcoins have a great chance to be delisted by the exchanges. After reaching some price level, many altcoins have been a source of HYPE and the investors preferred to trade these altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Google+ on December 28, 2019, 11:52:08 PM
But when BTC price increases in dollar value, other altcoins normally do same although mostly not with a wide margin. I also agree that we shouldn't just hold any altcoin for long term but ones with proven team transparency and devotion, and also good development. Also it's not so cool in my opinion holding so many altcoins waiting to see a positive outcome, it's better to draw a scale of preference and select a few for long term.

if altcoin we hold has good potential for the future, I think altcoin is suitable for long-term investment. In fact, when bitcoin has increased in price, it is possible that some potential altcoins can move to follow the same thing, therefore I don't think there is anything wrong with altcoin if we are wise to choose several potential altcoins to invest
I don't think anyone can guarantee for altcoin in the future because altcoin has little interest and too much supply will make altcoin prices in the future can be a time bomb that can destroy you instantly, altcoin risk is greater than risk in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: hello_good_sir on December 29, 2019, 12:15:31 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I don't think that anyone in the market has these unrealistic expectations of alts.

It's simply that alts have been significantly underperforming when compared to something like BTC, which has obviously been outperforming the majority of other alternatives within the market. And there is a good reason for that, because traders, especially institutions, prefer to have BTC which has had a better reputation and more liquidity in comparison to the majority of alts.

So yeah, nothing is wrong - but that doesn't mean that demand  for alts will all of a sudden exceed BTC per se.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 29, 2019, 12:32:04 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I agree in you points that not all altcoins can be considered shitcoin, but there are too many of them, only a handful can be considered backed by real project and this is one of the things that worries investors, it's really prefer not to invest in a new coin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: 3la9l_kolbaCa on December 29, 2019, 12:36:32 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I don't think that anyone in the market has these unrealistic expectations of alts.

It's simply that alts have been significantly underperforming when compared to something like BTC, which has obviously been outperforming the majority of other alternatives within the market. And there is a good reason for that, because traders, especially institutions, prefer to have BTC which has had a better reputation and more liquidity in comparison to the majority of alts.

So yeah, nothing is wrong - but that doesn't mean that demand  for alts will all of a sudden exceed BTC per se.

Even if bitcoin bounces higher, I don't think alts will have to be affected for its progress. There are selected coins which increases, but was dependent on their developer if it could establish a strong community, as well as the momentum build up once bitcoin hits the best price. Many coins will follow but not at 100% breakthrough, because shitcoins won't be risen from the dead.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: biddicoin on December 29, 2019, 03:06:56 AM
But when BTC price increases in dollar value, other altcoins normally do same although mostly not with a wide margin. I also agree that we shouldn't just hold any altcoin for long term but ones with proven team transparency and devotion, and also good development. Also it's not so cool in my opinion holding so many altcoins waiting to see a positive outcome, it's better to draw a scale of preference and select a few for long term.

if altcoin we hold has good potential for the future, I think altcoin is suitable for long-term investment. In fact, when bitcoin has increased in price, it is possible that some potential altcoins can move to follow the same thing, therefore I don't think there is anything wrong with altcoin if we are wise to choose several potential altcoins to invest
I don't think anyone can guarantee for altcoin in the future because altcoin has little interest and too much supply will make altcoin prices in the future can be a time bomb that can destroy you instantly, altcoin risk is greater than risk in bitcoin.
I think you shouldnt say about guarantee in this probability market, bcz it will never happen

Altcoin already down so much from ATH. it is different with Bitcoin which is only down less
we need next altseason to get better price to altcoin, I think that's one and only one way


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Hallmader on December 29, 2019, 03:13:36 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

It is pointless blaming either Bitcoin or altcoin. All of them are losing prices together. The entire market of cryptocurrency is not rising such as what happened in 2017. That is the reason why Bitcoin is far from $20,000, Ethereum is far from $1,400, Litecoin is falling from $300, and so on. Everybody should start realizing that and continue to keep their coins in their wallet. Only weak hands are going to give up.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: bitvalak on December 29, 2019, 05:16:57 AM
Indeed there is nothing wrong with altcoin. Major Altcoin such as LTC, XRP, etc. are still stable today. Only altcoin garbage has decreased trading volume above 50%.
The only discussion at the moment is just a new altcoin that has the potential to become junk altcoin. Altcoin major as I mentioned above is rarely discussed, even though they have been proven for years to have a good development, but lost the price difference with bitcoin. That's what many people are concerned about.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: danherbias07 on December 29, 2019, 05:23:28 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Are you there when that 20k happened? It was just fast to go up and then more faster to go down.
It was some kind of an error for me. To those who sold at that price, they are really lucky.
Sadly, I did not even sell even 1 satoshi.  ;D

Who says it is the altcoins fault?
If someone told you that then better stop listening to him anymore.
Altcoins and bitcoin have different market. You should keep that in mind.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: BigBos on December 29, 2019, 06:28:49 AM
many people think the same thing. like when bitcoin prices go up, altcoin prices mostly go down, and when bitcoin prices, almost all altcoin prices go down, it stresses investors from altcoin. however, we cannot blame anyone. sometimes, the price of altcoin also pumps by itself, so look for that moment.
this year, when bitcoin prices were dominant and rose to $ 13,000, actually alt altcoin experienced a price development, although not much but it was quite worth it. for example, BNB which reached its ATH this year. for now, the decline is not so severe. true, only the altcoin crap will lose its price, for altcoin which continues to be developed, I think the price will rise in tune with the price of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Colt81 on December 29, 2019, 09:22:20 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
A lot of people are really not a fan of altcoins because most of them don't have any good value like bitcoin, that is why most of their investment are only on bitcoin. But in my own opinion, there are still altcoins that are worth to invest with like the top 10 altcoins in the market such as ETH, BNB, LTC, and so on that it still has a potential tto increase it's value in the future.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: gwaposakon on December 29, 2019, 09:47:52 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I think even bitcoin is affected by the current bearish market situation. Usually, both of them carry each other during the price pump. Most altcoins are on the low right now so I am still confident that their price will go up especially during the upcoming BTC halving and Ethereum upgrade next year. I am just patiently waiting and hoping that my wait would bear fruits later on.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Lecam on December 29, 2019, 09:57:48 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I think even bitcoin is affected by the current bearish market situation. Usually, both of them carry each other during the price pump. Most altcoins are on the low right now so I am still confident that their price will go up especially during the upcoming BTC halving and Ethereum upgrade next year. I am just patiently waiting and hoping that my wait would bear fruits later on.
Yes true they are affected bith of them bitcoin ang altcoins as we see when bitcoin goes down some altcoins are going up or down so thet are affected of bitcoin movement. And as you said you patiently waiting and me too i need more patient to wait for the bitcoin price goes up because once bitcoin goes up many altcoins move forward too.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: DonValenteeno on December 29, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
Of course, nothing is wrong with altcoins, ďWherever there is an opportunity to make easy profits, people will rush into anythingĒ (Buterin)


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: leea-1334 on December 29, 2019, 10:50:22 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I agree in you points that not all altcoins can be considered shitcoin, but there are too many of them, only a handful can be considered backed by real project and this is one of the things that worries investors, it's really prefer not to invest in a new coin.

The problem with altcoins and why people have blamed them is because they were the ones responsible for most of the speculation to happen in crypto, as well as most of the scams. Bitcoin is BTC, it is there and people are using it and markets are moving, and it keeps growing. But majority of altcoins just sat there, collected money from ICOs and never actually came up with anything useful.

Nothing is wrong with that?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: crossabdd on December 29, 2019, 11:31:29 AM
Yups, I also think the same. there is nothing wrong with altcoin. because all movements are to follow bitcoin. when bitcoin falls, all altcoins also fall. it's like a child who follows his mother. so it's still okay. and all will return when mom (Bitcoin) rises and rises. basically, this is an opportunity to hold great coins before bitcoin brings them to the pump.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Thomas-s on December 29, 2019, 12:06:55 PM
Yups, I also think the same. there is nothing wrong with altcoin. because all movements are to follow bitcoin. when bitcoin falls, all altcoins also fall. it's like a child who follows his mother. so it's still okay. and all will return when mom (Bitcoin) rises and rises. basically, this is an opportunity to hold great coins before bitcoin brings them to the pump.
if you look at the market you will see that if bitcoin is growing, then altcoins are falling relative to bitcoin. Of course, if you trade altcoins against the dollar, then most likely you will be able to earn some money, but now the most important thing is to earn as much bitcoin as possible. This is my goal and this can be done when bitcoin is in the flat.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cryp24x on December 29, 2019, 03:09:18 PM
I don't understand what is your basis of hating the altcoin. There are factors why people don't want some altcoins versus Bitcoin. Some Altcoins are called shit coins because they were created just for the project. After the launch of that altcoin, it will not have value in the future.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Beparanf on December 29, 2019, 03:15:50 PM

Are you there when that 20k happened? It was just fast to go up and then more faster to go down.
It was some kind of an error for me. To those who sold at that price, they are really lucky.
Sadly, I did not even sell even 1 satoshi.  ;D

Who says it is the altcoins fault?
If someone told you that then better stop listening to him anymore.
Altcoins and bitcoin have different market. You should keep that in mind.
I did sell some and regretted not selling many before but that happened already, altcoins have their own uses, there is nothing wrong, it's just their too many already that seems alike in other projects before that causes some failed projects and low in trading values. Bitcoin is popular that it is used by many, but I still prefer to use both as when I'm trading there are more alts that are low in fees that I can use than btc. We just need to manipulate it in a way we will benefit from alt and btc.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on December 29, 2019, 04:50:03 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I don't think you should worry about that because pretty much there is gonna be same rate of increase with altcoins along with Bitcoin. Maybe not that really of the same increase but I noticed it since back in 2017 when the market went red, pretty much all the coins went downhill also especially ETH that time.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Bim abk on December 29, 2019, 04:55:41 PM
I don't understand what is your basis of hating the altcoin. There are factors why people don't want some altcoins versus Bitcoin. Some Altcoins are called shit coins because they were created just for the project. After the launch of that altcoin, it will not have value in the future.
Simple logic works here, if the project becomes a mainstream, everyone will feel bad why they didn't see this ICO/IEO. The well-known exchanges don't disclose the possible projects for the Binance Launchpad, AFAIK. The guessing game is nervous in this case because of the bad market conditions.
in this sense I conclude, if we do not have the ability then mistakes can continue to occur and also the market will certainly not always support because large exchanges also do not guarantee profits. therefore ability is important because it can create confidence, and we must really have it.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Pham_Kinh_Kong on December 29, 2019, 05:05:17 PM
The fact is that altcoins are not doing their job well and are not making investors feel secure about their value rise. when bitcoin went up to 20,000 dollars the altcoins stayed still. This is too paradoxical.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Golftech on December 29, 2019, 05:08:18 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I don't think you should worry about that because pretty much there is gonna be same rate of increase with altcoins along with Bitcoin. Maybe not that really of the same increase but I noticed it since back in 2017 when the market went red, pretty much all the coins went downhill also especially ETH that time.
There's no clear directions into this market not even bitcoin start to jumped high means that we can assume that alts will automatically follows, maybe some known alts that already have strong communities will go and tail bitcoin to its rising movements but for sure that those unknown project will not
follow and chances to die naturally will be expected. Be positive and keep learning from the market flows it will help you to build your strategy and you'll be able to easily adjust from time to time.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ProteinBar on December 29, 2019, 05:14:03 PM
altcoins are not so wrong. botcoin flourishes too much to overwhelm it all, so it's not the altcoin's fault. The cryptocurrency market is not doing as expected, so we should not expect too much.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Brunus on December 29, 2019, 06:49:42 PM
The altcoins failed because thousands of billionaire wannabes thought that creating a coin out of nothing was a way to get rich overnight, regardless of the validity of the project or the ability to manage it.
And this unfortunately has created hatred and mistrust even in valid projects.
On the other hand, whoever survives will be selected.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Xcode7 on December 29, 2019, 07:01:03 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Indeed there is nothing wrong with altcoin if we can direct it in detail and orderly, the market is down, especially for altcoin, but there are still many valuable altcoin options and it can be the best option for us to invest or trade. If compared with bitcoin it's clear altcoin can only be used as the second choice and so on. Back again to ourselves and I think there is nothing to worry about if we can control all the factors that exist. Hopefully good fortune will come to us in the following year


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Balladtony77 on December 29, 2019, 07:06:49 PM
I have many erc20 tokens that I got from the bounty campaign and hope that when bitcoin goes up altcoin will follow the price. I know now most of the erc20 tokens are dead because long bear market but I am still waiting for everything to come back.
I am hoping everything will turn around as well but I do hope you are holding on to promising tokens? This way your tokens won't die while holding them


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: leowonderful on December 29, 2019, 07:23:52 PM
People hate on a ton of alts in general because there's really not a lot of (especially new) good projects coming out and prospering in these current market conditions. It's certainly a good time to accumulate larger altcoins in preparation for a future bull run, but the fact that the vast majority of altcoin projects will never have any useful use-case or adoption makes it understandable for me why a lot of people shit on altcoins. I don't blame them, though, because I'm not buying any newer alts either at the moment.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Stargazer on December 29, 2019, 07:48:38 PM
You are truly right here, mate! People love to mock altcoins but they can't see the fact! Though ETH, EOS, LTC price should be higher than the present price comparing Bitcoin at 7K USD, but yet they are not doing very bad! If someone buys a shitcoin then he will get rekt without any doubt! But potential altcoins are assets in crypto and we need it for the Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: alrose on December 29, 2019, 08:13:17 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
I think this is temporary. Altcoins can, under good conditions and development, outperform bitcoin in price. It's just that this is not the time for altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: QueenVera on December 29, 2019, 09:12:16 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Altcoins didn't fail to move when bitcoin was reaching new all time high in 2017, In fact 2017 was a great year for the cryptocurrency market in general. The issue of price decreasing started showing its effect in 2018 when majority of that period, the market was red. Bitcoin can be relied on for retracing its steps back to previous all time high and even surpass it but that can't be said about altcoins on a general note as most of them will die with the bear market. Don't hate on bitcoin as it does you no good, the market follow bitcoin and not the other way round so for the market to experience success, bitcoin first has to achieve that success.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: iv4n on December 29, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Altcoins didn't fail to move when bitcoin was reaching new all time high in 2017, In fact 2017 was a great year for the cryptocurrency market in general. The issue of price decreasing started showing its effect in 2018 when majority of that period, the market was red. Bitcoin can be relied on for retracing its steps back to previous all time high and even surpass it but that can't be said about altcoins on a general note as most of them will die with the bear market. Don't hate on bitcoin as it does you no good, the market follow bitcoin and not the other way round so for the market to experience success, bitcoin first has to achieve that success.

First to say that 2017 was special year. Even thou bitcoin price rise was higher from 2010 to 2017 in percents, the rise from 2017 when bitcoin managed to rise from 1000 to 20000 was much more noticed. Now when I read some comments it's like nothing didn't exist before 2017! Many alts were created before 2017, and many alts are still in ROI, that means even after rise and drop in the past years current price is higher than the price at the moment they were issued!
Nothing is wrong with crypto, just some people lose money because they invested too late, or too early, who would know. There will be always someone who is on the losing end, and probably nobody can help them, what we need to make sure is to be on the winners side.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: DigeNarrator on December 29, 2019, 09:41:12 PM
basically alts are better investment than bitcoin, if you choose the right ones..
they'll probably earn you more BTC while Bitcoin will you only more $
but its much more risky game
and have to diversify portoflio between alts and bitcoin


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: doctor877 on December 29, 2019, 10:08:43 PM
It's just the way these alts dip when BTC is growing or when it's dipping that makes people turn away from it. The good ones are obviously the best to invest into for great profits. But one needs to be careful else, all the funds will be lost.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Hamstead on December 29, 2019, 10:38:34 PM
It's just the way these alts dip when BTC is growing or when it's dipping that makes people turn away from it. The good ones are obviously the best to invest into for great profits. But one needs to be careful else, all the funds will be lost.
Then you just have to choose the best and higher profitable altcoin in the market.
The most common failure that investors and traders are just because of coins selection, they usually look into the price but not it's market volume. If we are good at this, we could assure that we can still make money.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Slingshot on December 30, 2019, 01:45:57 AM
Nothing is absolutely wrong with Altcoin aside market fail and many fake Altcoins out there, so once bitcoin increases there's certainty other good altcoins will increase and despite the market condition, some altcoins are doing better above token sale price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: karanggatak on December 30, 2019, 02:41:25 AM
there is nothing wrong with altcoin, the crypto market is indeed like this has a high fluctuation. then rising and falling prices for bitcoin will always have an impact on altcoin. because most of altcoin is paired with bitcoin. bitcoin prices have declined since the beginning of this year, but in the middle of the year bitcoin prices began to increase. and in July yesterday the price of bitcoin reached $ 13,000. people expect at that time the price of altcoin will also increase but in reality the altcoin market continues to decline. this is what makes most altcoin investors feel disappointed and pessimistic about the altcoin market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: sayaya17 on December 30, 2019, 03:02:03 AM
I really like altcoin LTC type, this coin is very stable in my opinion compared to other altcoin. Indeed there are EOS, BNB, ethereum and xrp, they can all survive this bearish season, but indeed most people for now prefer to save bitcoin, maybe because now bitcoin is more stable and there will be halving.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: the rise on December 30, 2019, 03:14:26 AM
if Bitcoin does not rise and even continues to decline then Altcoin will continue to be affected, quantitatively very detrimental to long-term holders and this of course is very wrong. I'm not talking only about bad altcoin, but almost all altcoins can only surrender to the Bitcoin trend, altseason still hasn't come yet and is causing a lot of anxiety.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Itsmylife on December 30, 2019, 03:24:20 AM
I really like altcoin LTC type, this coin is very stable in my opinion compared to other altcoin. Indeed there are EOS, BNB, ethereum and xrp, they can all survive this bearish season, but indeed most people for now prefer to save bitcoin, maybe because now bitcoin is more stable and there will be halving.

I don't think the price of Bitcoin is currently stable. People love to save Bitcoin because we think the price of Bitcoin will soar in the future according to many predictions. Altcoins still depend on the price of Bitcoin so much, it can always be stuck in bearisk season when  bitcoin moves, so it is very dangerous to buy altcoins when we are dreaming about future bitcoin prices.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: smyslov on December 30, 2019, 03:29:08 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Now this is where the problems rise if you are not checking all the coins in your portfolio, if they deserve to be there at all, 2019 we saw how all these altcoins get huge a pump even shitcoins can make you rich overnight but one year is enough to make investors matured on how the market performs, so shitcoins will not goingto get a pump anymore.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: fuer44 on December 30, 2019, 03:47:13 AM
just look at the plus side if bitcoin goes down and the top altcoin goes down, then we have a chance to buy altcoin at a low price. and true, if you see litecoin, eos, neo, xlm, or ripple, they are in a favorable condition for trading even if not in large numbers but at least not lose. so instead of quietly waiting for bitcoin and altcoin fixed up, wait for the investment by trading on altcoin such as ltc, neo, eos, xlm, ripple, or doge.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: albrots on December 30, 2019, 03:50:13 AM
there is nothing wrong with altcoin, this is indeed the cycle that will occur on the altcoin market. The current problem and affecting altcoin is the number of scam projects that make investors no longer believe and have a negative impact on all altcoin and also for bitcoin. if bitcoin reaches $ 20k and altcoin doesn't follow it, of course the problem is the altcoin, but in my opinion it won't all. For example ETH which always compensates for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Natalim on December 30, 2019, 04:17:51 AM
there is nothing wrong with altcoin, this is indeed the cycle that will occur on the altcoin market. The current problem and affecting altcoin is the number of scam projects that make investors no longer believe and have a negative impact on all altcoin and also for bitcoin. if bitcoin reaches $ 20k and altcoin doesn't follow it, of course the problem is the altcoin, but in my opinion it won't all. For example ETH which always compensates for Bitcoin.
A cycle that we don't know when altcoins will be back on top. for short term investors, they don't like what is happening to the altcoins market.

When most of your investments are down 90%, there's really something wrong with that as it's hard to recover that price, if it will, it might again take time like years the least..


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: KnightElite on December 30, 2019, 05:02:48 AM
there is nothing wrong with altcoin, this is indeed the cycle that will occur on the altcoin market. The current problem and affecting altcoin is the number of scam projects that make investors no longer believe and have a negative impact on all altcoin and also for bitcoin. if bitcoin reaches $ 20k and altcoin doesn't follow it, of course the problem is the altcoin, but in my opinion it won't all. For example ETH which always compensates for Bitcoin.
A cycle that we don't know when altcoins will be back on top. for short term investors, they don't like what is happening to the altcoins market.

When most of your investments are down 90%, there's really something wrong with that as it's hard to recover that price, if it will, it might again take time like years the least..
There is wrong if the price of altcoins goes down -90%. It seems that the coins lose interest and popularity in the market. Be careful on what altcoins that we are holding, there are altcoins that can recover but there are altcoins that will not recover anymore and that altcoins can be considered as shitcoins. It is our own fault if we bought worthless altcoins so we should pick carefully.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Novatech8 on December 30, 2019, 07:19:28 AM
altcoin that does not have a product and a large community, so they cannot survive, this is like a natural law, they are not able to adapt, so thrown out of battle. so when bitcoin rises, they are unable to follow it, due to the lack of trust from investors
Many altcoins have better working products backing them and good use cases as well, I don't have to start mentioning names but I am surprised this is coming from a full member on this forum.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Henrytrust on December 30, 2019, 07:38:07 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

You made a valid point, the value of altcoin is greatly dependent on the value of Bitcoin. Some altcoin are doing just fine as you mentioned, though we recorded some loss and secondly, bitcoin seems to be the dominant crypto in the coin market as it holds about 70% of the market presently.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: devillnj2.1 on December 30, 2019, 07:50:50 AM
altcoins are not the one to blame but those people who use it to scam other people. thats why before you invest in altcoins make sure you do your own research. theres a lot of good altcoins in the market today. dont be foolled by sweet marketing strategies, dedicating time for crypto investment is very important. always remember invest wisely.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Jpt on December 30, 2019, 08:03:42 AM
The bottom line is if altcoins suffer meltdown, it does in high degree. But Bitcoin does not decrease in price as compared to altcoins. It means bitcoin has more importance than altcoins. I am not saying all altcoins are failing to perform well. Some altcoins like Ethereum, BNB, Huobi coin are good investment and doing well.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: memed97 on December 30, 2019, 08:46:56 AM
The bottom line is if altcoins suffer meltdown, it does in high degree. But Bitcoin does not decrease in price as compared to altcoins. It means bitcoin has more importance than altcoins. I am not saying all altcoins are failing to perform well. Some altcoins like Ethereum, BNB, Huobi coin are good investment and doing well.
Since when did you know bitcoin? so to say if Bitcoin has not experienced a price decline, you try to see the price of bitcoin at the end of 2017 and compare with the price of bitcoin this year, whether there is a price decline or not.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: albrots on December 30, 2019, 08:47:01 AM
A cycle that we don't know when altcoins will be back on top. for short term investors, they don't like what is happening to the altcoins market.

When most of your investments are down 90%, there's really something wrong with that as it's hard to recover that price, if it will, it might again take time like years the least..
of course it will take a very long time to recover losses that reach 90%.
there are even some altcoins that go down by more than 100%. Many holders have become poor because of the current state of altcoin.
I don't know when the recovery time is altcoin so the price will be good again, very difficult for now.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Oneandpure on December 30, 2019, 09:03:13 AM
Nothing wrong with altcoin just have lower price today, almost altcoin keep have lower price and loss dominance on coinmarket cap with bitcoin, more than 40% altcoin loss dominance with bitcoin and make price down, have many chance when altcoin must come back with higher price without care how bitcoin and altcoin price, if bitcoin although with lower price altcoin should be in higher price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Kupid002 on December 30, 2019, 09:09:18 AM
Nothing wrong with altcoin just have lower price today, almost altcoin keep have lower price and loss dominance on coinmarket cap with bitcoin, more than 40% altcoin loss dominance with bitcoin and make price down, have many chance when altcoin must come back with higher price without care how bitcoin and altcoin price, if bitcoin although with lower price altcoin should be in higher price.
Not only today its almost 2years since the altcoin continue to decrease its value, actually even bitcoin experience lost from the past 2 years. We just need to wait for another bitcoin and altcoin seasons to get back all what we lost in them. Hopefully it will happen very soon.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: max6575 on December 30, 2019, 09:13:27 AM
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Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: alan2here on December 30, 2019, 09:15:45 AM
just look at the plus side if bitcoin goes down and the top altcoin goes down, then we have a chance to buy altcoin at a low price. and true, if you see litecoin, eos, neo, xlm, or ripple, they are in a favorable condition for trading even if not in large numbers but at least not lose. so instead of quietly waiting for bitcoin and altcoin fixed up, wait for the investment by trading on altcoin such as ltc, neo, eos, xlm, ripple, or doge.
At present, Bitcoin is always the decisive coin for the existence of altcoin and if this coin cannot rise well, the chances of making a profit will be very low because altcoin is a very risky investment. I think there is a need to improve the value of Bitcoin and the need for investment to increase in 2020 because this is the year that determines the future of the entire crypto market.

However, investor sentiment is still very frightening so it will be difficult to find a new altcoin season. It may take more time before everything starts again.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: aji567 on December 30, 2019, 09:36:01 AM
if bitcoin experiences ATH again in 2020, then it is certain that altcoin will also go up again like that time. so choose the correct altcoin and at least 10 top coinmarkertcaps.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: meliodas on December 30, 2019, 12:12:57 PM
I agree with this. There is indeed nothing wrong with altcoins because they are like bitcoin which is an opportunity to make money. If you know how to utilize the opportunities laying around the market through altcoins then you will not complain about them. There is a lot of altcoins which have a cheap price with great value in the market that you can grab for a long term investment.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Visbay on December 30, 2019, 03:50:18 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I agree. There is no such problem in terms of the Altcoins price because what we are currently seeing right now is the after effect of Bitcoin's price downfall in which most of the existing Altcoins within the market relies or depends their prices on it. It must be good to know that despite of the price downfall, still Altcoins have made it up to this point of time on surviving while Bitcoin have not full recovered its price yet. The downfall of Bitcoin do really affect most of the Altcoins which is normal and already have been natural scenario because it do always happen everytime Bitcoin's price fall. The only thing that can be wrong in talking about Altcoins is that most of them might look promising but you must be careful of that because looks can be deceiving so better choose a trusted and reliable altcoin so that your investment will be safe and your lon term wait will be all worth it once the market have recovered because surely, Altcoins will get along to its recovery benefiting us all.
Yeah, Altcoins are good to invest in as now in this modern era we want some good ways to get money and bitcoin is really beneficial to invest your money. In crypto, we will have to remain so careful and not to invest in New or low potential coins as a time to time altcoins changes the value and we should invest only in profitable Coins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on December 30, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Nothing is absolutely wrong with Altcoin aside market fail and many fake Altcoins out there, so once bitcoin increases there's certainty other good altcoins will increase and despite the market condition, some altcoins are doing better above token sale price.
What's wrong is when you supported an unrealistic coin. There is no relation between bitcoin to any altcoin however it is noticeably obvious that when the bitcoin price pumps the other coin does to, and the other way goes around. But it will still depend on the people since we are decentralized, bitcoin rise and altcoin would still remain or bitcoin won't move and altcoins will, very uncertain things to predict what could be the next event to happen.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: leatutz on December 30, 2019, 09:33:27 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
You can blame altcoins or scam project for Bitcoin price drops but real is totally different. Bitcoin price dropped from 3,200 to 13,000 to 7,000 USD without moving altcoins price and altcoins season. After some huge success by update some altcoins already


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: thisnewcoin on December 30, 2019, 09:49:31 PM
Though you have a point but yet look at the Bitcoin dominance in the crypto market. Compare the Bitcoin and altcoin growth of this year! Altcoins did the shit job in the whole year where Bitcoin price was good enough for a kong time! I like altcoins, I have many, but I think altcoins price should go higher to keep a balance with the Bitcoin growth like before!


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: heidikim on December 30, 2019, 10:32:27 PM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Bonwin on December 30, 2019, 11:59:19 PM
In fact, the best investments to make sometimes are altcoins, because of the possibility of a multiplier effect. Even if there isn't a general upsurge in the market, there are certain altcoins, inasmuch as the teams are still actively involved in them, they will one day, if not more, grow to high significant levels.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Maslate on December 31, 2019, 01:49:27 AM
In fact, the best investments to make sometimes are altcoins, because of the possibility of a multiplier effect.
Bitcoin also can multiply your investment, and it's safer for long term investment compared to bitcoin.
you just have to know the altcoins is a high risk investment so timing matters a lot here.

Even if there isn't a general upsurge in the market, there are certain altcoins, inasmuch as the teams are still actively involved in them, they will one day, if not more, grow to high significant levels.
I am sure about that, but it could be a long wait because bitcoin is not stable yet and it's not pumping yet as we expect it.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: South Park on January 01, 2020, 06:31:03 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
And why those coins are so easily influenced by bitcoin when many promoted themselves as the new bitcoin and how they could easily replace it? Altcoins have not been performing up to expectations of anyone and it is time to stop defending them, they need to begin to move independently of bitcoin or everyone will recognize in them nothing more but a way to speculate and try to get more bitcoin and that is it, they will never gain an identity of their own and for any business that is the first step before it disappears.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Sebas.tian on January 01, 2020, 06:55:41 PM
In fact, the best investments to make sometimes are altcoins, because of the possibility of a multiplier effect. Even if there isn't a general upsurge in the market, there are certain altcoins, inasmuch as the teams are still actively involved in them, they will one day, if not more, grow to high significant levels.

Basically this multiplier you said is of degrees because many altcoins these days have low multiplier compared to the past especially 2017. We have had many times of Bitcoin surge and downtrend of the altcoins, so, there is everything wrong with the altcoins. The possibility of altcoins to surge may not be visible six months times based on the past records. Many investors have stopped investing because of altcoins inability to give profits.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: IHF on January 01, 2020, 07:16:27 PM
I wouldn't invest in altcoins long term, just for short term speculation. Some serious experts say almost all of AC are doomed because of insecurities or no real inherent value. for sure it's not guaranteed just because some ppl talking bad about AC, I know but I'm trusting my expert and of course my commom sense...


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: devillnj2.1 on January 01, 2020, 11:15:37 PM
altcoins is the future money, it is use in different field like entertainment, remmitance, cargo, games and many more, there are many use of altcoin, it's just that people only see the price in short time and forget the real value of altcoin in the long run, there are people who use altcoin to scam other people. always know the project you are entering to.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: d3nz on January 01, 2020, 11:26:12 PM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.
Altcoin may start to rise maybe a year after the Bitcoin's value start to rise up and we don't know when it will start to rising and halving is near yet we don't know if the market will keep going up or down but surely it will pump just like before.

And, i think that only few altcoins will only able to keep up with Bitcoin since they have much potential than other who does not have purpose at all and lack of investors also community.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: olumyd on January 01, 2020, 11:29:56 PM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.

Altcoin market is going through heavy consolidation. At this rate, we may have very few altcoins left, which is good for the market as there are too many crypto projects that shouldn't be on the market at all. But we still have a long way to standardization, so this bear-ride may still take a while longer (just my humble opinion though). Let's hold on to our hats.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Endikadija on January 01, 2020, 11:46:24 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
You can blame altcoins or scam project for Bitcoin price drops but real is totally different. Bitcoin price dropped from 3,200 to 13,000 to 7,000 USD without moving altcoins price and altcoins season. After some huge success by update some altcoins already
The scam project will make the investors will not try to invest in altcoin but it has no effect to the bitcoin as the investors don't need to feel worry about bitcoin. Remember to buy bitcoin doesn't need a lot of considerations just like when you are interesting to buy altcoin these days. There is no direct correlation


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: princesspoppy on January 01, 2020, 11:53:22 PM
I like altcoins, it is easier to invest in it (cause you know it's cheaper compared to bitcoin) and some altcoins are doing fine even if bitcoin drops its price. But the only thing I don't like about altcoins (I'm talking about trash coins here) is that the price hype in the early stage in the market but after months the price drops to the point where it totally loses its value. This is the reason why other investors do not like to invest in altcoins and are losing faith in them. They prefer bitcoin than these coins because it (bitcoin) already proved itself multiple times.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kynaz on January 02, 2020, 03:29:33 AM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.

Altcoin market is going through heavy consolidation. At this rate, we may have very few altcoins left, which is good for the market as there are too many crypto projects that shouldn't be on the market at all. But we still have a long way to standardization, so this bear-ride may still take a while longer (just my humble opinion though). Let's hold on to our hats.
If there are few altcoins, investors will feel safer when choosing to invest and can avoid the scam projects available in this market. I think over the past year, there have been thousands of altcoins wiped out of this market and most of them are shitcoins that are not worth your attention. Of course, there will still be some coins that bring you big profits but be careful before making a decision.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Trela on January 02, 2020, 04:12:28 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Ok, just like the name of Altcoin - Alternate cryptocurrencies, you can use Altcoin to replace Bitcoin when you need it. However, let's take a look at this forum, we have a separate box for Bitcoin, but all altcoins are arranging in one box "Alternate cryptocurrencies". It's enough to know the Altcoin ecosystem has many shitcoin - huge trash. You must remember that the value of Bitcoin or Altcoin shows the interest of investors. The more the value fluctuates in a downtrend, the more it loses the confidence of investors, and vice versa, the value will increase when investors have put their trust in Bitcoin or Altcoin => Buy them!

So, if the Altcoin price has decreased, it by its investor sold them and made dump, not by Bitcoin! ;)


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: asus09 on January 02, 2020, 04:49:39 AM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.

Altcoin market is going through heavy consolidation. At this rate, we may have very few altcoins left, which is good for the market as there are too many crypto projects that shouldn't be on the market at all. But we still have a long way to standardization, so this bear-ride may still take a while longer (just my humble opinion though). Let's hold on to our hats.
If there are few altcoins, investors will feel safer when choosing to invest and can avoid the scam projects available in this market. I think over the past year, there have been thousands of altcoins wiped out of this market and most of them are shitcoins that are not worth your attention. Of course, there will still be some coins that bring you big profits but be careful before making a decision.
Good ideas with limited supply altcoin listed on exchange market because make many investor always choose the same coin for investing and trading, but how come if little altcoin can make developer very not confidence because they keep think about their altcoin become most popular coin and not give chance for other coin become trusted.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: b1boy on January 02, 2020, 09:01:59 AM
For me personally I really don't care for yet I don't abhor altcoins, I mostly dont care for altcoins that rely upon bitcoin price , The way that the estimation of most altcoins in the market relies upon the price of bitcoin .. i have so many bounty tokens that i was expecting to grow with bitcoin price but now it is worthless


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: albrots on January 04, 2020, 07:38:39 AM
there is nothing wrong with altcoin, this is indeed the cycle that will occur on the altcoin market. The current problem and affecting altcoin is the number of scam projects that make investors no longer believe and have a negative impact on all altcoin and also for bitcoin. if bitcoin reaches $ 20k and altcoin doesn't follow it, of course the problem is the altcoin, but in my opinion it won't all. For example ETH which always compensates for Bitcoin.
A cycle that we don't know when altcoins will be back on top. for short term investors, they don't like what is happening to the altcoins market.

When most of your investments are down 90%, there's really something wrong with that as it's hard to recover that price, if it will, it might again take time like years the least..
Short-term investment does require patience and accuracy because the market situation is indeed not possible.
take sufficient profits at all times, so that no investment is stuck at high prices.
90% of the price of altcoin goes down, making many investors have to hold their coins, but to recover the price will be very long and there is no guarantee of returning to the initial price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: novaprime on January 04, 2020, 09:10:37 AM
The Altcoin market may enter a new era. There has been a falling market for 2 years. Prices have fallen a lot. I think bitcoin will allow a bit. Altcoin prices will rise again. I am preparing to evaluate this process well. I hope I succeed.

Altcoin market is going through heavy consolidation. At this rate, we may have very few altcoins left, which is good for the market as there are too many crypto projects that shouldn't be on the market at all. But we still have a long way to standardization, so this bear-ride may still take a while longer (just my humble opinion though). Let's hold on to our hats.
Market needs to change a lot and we are witnessing the collapse of many altcoins over the past period. Hopefully, in 2020 there will be only good coins and investors will be easier to choose in the long-term investment.  In addition, people will reduce a lot of big risks and this will make a lot of investors tend to return to this market more.

One way or another, you have to make a profit this year because this is a good time for you to work and if you have a lot of money try investing in some new IEO projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kodtycoon on January 04, 2020, 05:51:17 PM
no one considers altcoins wrong and once again we can see the big difference over the temporary recovery that is happening now, at least it proves altcoins still have the potential to recover and increase even higher. there is no need to be pessimistic about bad situations that happen because the change from negative to positive will definitely continue to happen because there is nothing stable in this market


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Jocuserious on January 04, 2020, 07:56:27 PM
Everyone investors want invest in top coins if you have long term planing anyway really no need to worry about top altcoins because their was big investors with marketcap. More top altcoins run good speed with their developing process so bear market is good effect for every altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Furryball on January 05, 2020, 05:48:41 AM
I think this will be the last chance for altcoins to ever get this cheap, very soon their prices will never remain the same again, only those who filled up their bags will be smiling, now is a big opportunity for altcoin lovers before altcoin market start skyrocketing


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: miklesm on January 05, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Investing in altcoins is a good way to diversify your portfolio. You can keep the majority of your funds in Bitcoin and buy some top altcoins for 10-20% of the portfolio which will be more risky and potentially more profitable position than BTC.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cutesgirl on January 05, 2020, 06:46:19 AM
Investing in altcoins is a good way to diversify your portfolio. You can keep the majority of your funds in Bitcoin and buy some top altcoins for 10-20% of the portfolio which will be more risky and potentially more profitable position than BTC.
Investing with altcoin most profitable with bitcoin because with $10k investing on bitcoin only have little profit because bitcoin only growing up about 1% to 3%, but for altcoin can raise up with higher price above 10% and higher with price altcoin still lower will get much profit, but never choose wrong altcoin for investing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: meliodas on January 05, 2020, 11:22:26 AM
People just often invest on shitcoins because they see it rising without further studying nor researching anything about the coin they are investing. Though the volume of a coin's traders do affect its price, there are still just clumsy investors who just being blinded by the incresing price.
That is a sign that the trader is a newbie because he don't have anything to rely on aside from the price increase. A true trader should not become greedy because of the hype of a certain coin, he should have setups for his trades if he will be going to enter or wait for the price to retrace so he can safely ride the hype train.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Byakuga on January 05, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
Altcoins time will come for sure that is why i will never give up on altcoins, they are meant to fix the issues if old altcoins and if you select them right it will bring huge volume soon, i have friends that got rich with 100$ worth of Zcash and Zclassic, be picky which coin you hold


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Outlander on January 05, 2020, 12:57:03 PM
The risk of investing in altcoins is huge. You must always pay attention to the project information of altcoins. If the project team does nothing or exposes negative news, the altcoins have the risk of returning to zero.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: No One on January 05, 2020, 01:01:52 PM
I support your idea as all altcoins are not bad themselves. There are good altcoins too in the market. When talking about profit, you can make profit only when you invest in right place and right time. Otherwise it will take more time for the same that you anticipate. So you can think and invest in good projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Bim abk on January 05, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
The risk of investing in altcoins is huge. You must always pay attention to the project information of altcoins. If the project team does nothing or exposes negative news, the altcoins have the risk of returning to zero.
investing in altcoin does have a high risk, and therefore the ability must be possessed. especially if investing in altcoins with bad volumes, they can dump at any time at any price. ability must indeed be possessed in investing because, without the ability of funds can easily be lost due to losses.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: timmmers on January 05, 2020, 03:12:12 PM
It is hard to say if Bitcoin is the solution for everything. I mean for every blockchain use through the second layer solutions or in the future every coin will be used for diffrent purpose and you will easily swap between coins in a mobile app by just one click.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
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Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on January 06, 2020, 02:54:25 PM
If you buy exchange tokens like ecxx and bnb you can profit even in a down market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: White Christmas on January 06, 2020, 03:06:38 PM
The altcoin will rising in the future, no need to worry. When bitcoin's down, some altcoin's down too, but not all altcoin's going down because the altcoin's trying to recover in a hard time if you check the market. This year, Ethereum cannot increase because Bitcoin is not rising higher, and Bitcoin is simply moving up and down. But if bitcoin gets a bull run, ethereum will also have a bull run time with the other altcoin.
That's right, it is very early to judge nor hate altcoins because we don't know what would might happen on the near future. Maybe there would be a chance that altcoin may come and arise again and there are a lot of possibility that the altcoin may pump again because we can see that the fluctuating of the altcoins in the current market graph is kind of good but it is just the value was not enough right now to triggered a bull run. We can see that bitcoin is also having a hard time to increase or pump up so the altcoin is having a hard time also as like with the bitcoin. Those two coins are kind of alike in terms of fluctuating so we can just wait what would be the flow of the market right now.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: makolz26 on January 06, 2020, 03:28:13 PM
The altcoin will rising in the future, no need to worry. When bitcoin's down, some altcoin's down too, but not all altcoin's going down because the altcoin's trying to recover in a hard time if you check the market. This year, Ethereum cannot increase because Bitcoin is not rising higher, and Bitcoin is simply moving up and down. But if bitcoin gets a bull run, ethereum will also have a bull run time with the other altcoin.
That's right, it is very early to judge nor hate altcoins because we don't know what would might happen on the near future. Maybe there would be a chance that altcoin may come and arise again and there are a lot of possibility that the altcoin may pump again because we can see that the fluctuating of the altcoins in the current market graph is kind of good but it is just the value was not enough right now to triggered a bull run. We can see that bitcoin is also having a hard time to increase or pump up so the altcoin is having a hard time also as like with the bitcoin. Those two coins are kind of alike in terms of fluctuating so we can just wait what would be the flow of the market right now.

Indeed, unless they are totally scam, but so far, most of the altcoins that were scam were now obvious and has almost no value at all, so let's just move on to those scam projects and let's focus to the altcoins that were really keep developing and still doing market in the crypto world despite the bear market by giving them chance, let's just choose wisely.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ven7net on January 06, 2020, 04:18:00 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

It is not a matter of what cryptocurrencies investments go into, it is a matter of understanding how exactly the entire crypto system works. The first cryptocurrency was BTC and in itself it would not be able to become so famous and get good financial support. The second stage was the appearance of alctoins, which allowed to create various crypto projects, platforms and applications. The next step was to infrastructure for the development of BTC, as well as altoins and crypto projects. All this can now expand and attract more people to the crypto sphere. So now BTC has great support not only from investors who buy BTC, but also from investments in altokines and other cryptocurrencies. And do not be surprised that in spite of the growth of BTC, many altcoins do not grow, all due to the fact that it is due to these altcoins that BTC grows. We promise everything is interconnected.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: poodle63 on January 06, 2020, 04:24:21 PM
I think this will be the last chance for altcoins to ever get this cheap, very soon their prices will never remain the same again, only those who filled up their bags will be smiling, now is a big opportunity for altcoin lovers before altcoin market start skyrocketing
It looks like true consider from the price of altcoin is starting to go to the moon but i expect not all of coins will be going to the moon. So many people have already accumulated a lot of altcoins from the bearish market and this time it looks like the correct time for them all to do massive pump to the market again.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on January 06, 2020, 04:36:14 PM
I am not very comfortable with threads such as this one, which tend to generalize all the altcoins. For heaven's sake, there are more than 10,000 altcoins in existence and many of them are as different as fire and ice. You can't compare an established altcoin such as Monero or Zcash with shitcoins such as Bitsend or Denarius. Actually this is the problem with altcoins. There are too few good coins, and too many shitcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Outlander on January 07, 2020, 02:11:24 PM
A good starting point started in 2020, and the price of Bitcoin has skyrocketed in recent days. I would love to see the prices of other altcoins rise at the same time. :P


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: julius caesar on January 07, 2020, 02:49:03 PM
The value of every other coins now drops because the value of bitcoin also goes down. We all know that the altcoins price is dependent on the price of bitcoin. So, when the price of bitcoin goes down the value of altcoin goes down as well. But we can still invest on those altcoin but you should try to invest on the coins that is on ranking first because those coin is already trusted by the other investors out there.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: infarterr on January 08, 2020, 05:52:51 AM
I think this will be the last chance for altcoins to ever get this cheap, very soon their prices will never remain the same again, only those who filled up their bags will be smiling, now is a big opportunity for altcoin lovers before altcoin market start skyrocketing
Obviously, now it is time to have some good altcoins, because I have seen altcoin top 10 so far showing a good chart to have, and I am also sure that in the future there will be more benefits that we can get through several altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: b1boy on January 08, 2020, 07:02:04 AM
Practically all the crypto currency lost its incentive from untouched high however this isn't the genuine explanation behind individuals to detest! Increasingly more new cryptos however everything transforms into trick so individuals really lost enthusiasm on new cryptos which likewise influences the cost of old altcoins and furthermore the pattern of crypto cost showcase.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: gielbier on January 08, 2020, 07:13:36 AM
Altcoins that do not have the potential are not able to follow the flow of Bitcoin because many investors who do not dare to invest in such altcoins but if the altcoins already have potential such as Ethereum, BNB, LTC they continue to rise and always Follow the flow of Bitcoin, then we must be careful in choosing an altcoin because many are scam so that the price does not go up, let alone the new altcoin is very low value.
Yes, there must be an altcoin that price will go down when BTC bullrun. Investors should be aware of that and should immediately sell low-value altcoins. After that the investor must invest his money in order to get a profit.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: andriarto on January 08, 2020, 07:36:15 AM
I think this will be the last chance for altcoins to ever get this cheap, very soon their prices will never remain the same again, only those who filled up their bags will be smiling, now is a big opportunity for altcoin lovers before altcoin market start skyrocketing
Obviously, now it is time to have some good altcoins, because I have seen altcoin top 10 so far showing a good chart to have, and I am also sure that in the future there will be more benefits that we can get through several altcoins.
Even though altcoin is a lot of rubbish, there are still many prospective altcoins going forward. altcoin junk won't last long and without innovation on its journey. different from high quality altcoin, they tend to care for their members, and provide increasingly high quality products



Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: drlukacs on January 08, 2020, 07:42:18 AM
Almost all the crypto currencies lost its value from all time high but this is not the real reason for people to hate! More and more new cryptos but everything turns into scam so people actually lost interest on new cryptos which also affects the price of old altcoins and also the trend of crypto price market.
The real culprit is bitcoin. Many people want to create a project just to cheat people and put money to buy bitcoin and wait for its price to rise. This has been evident over the past few days, as you can see today that only bitcoin has grown and alts have declined by over 20% and 30% respectively. This shows that the speculators are selling off the alts and accumulating to buy bitcoin, which will surely have very bad consequences. when bitcoin dominnance gets too high it will be kicked down again just like in early 2018. be careful and don't follow the line, if the market doesn't go as you think then keep USDT, don't try to trade.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: lienfaye on January 08, 2020, 07:49:54 AM
A good starting point started in 2020, and the price of Bitcoin has skyrocketed in recent days. I would love to see the prices of other altcoins rise at the same time. :P
Well there are 2 kinds of altcoins, one is the well-established and the other is the shitcoins.

We can expect popular alts to follow the footstep of btc but not the weak ones.

If alts are really connected to btc then we can say the growth of btc has a positive impact as well to alts.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Mealea on January 12, 2020, 10:01:25 PM
Every crypto currencies but good and bad have been affected by the condition of the market. Though some feel that altcoins have dumped more than BTC but i don't see it that way.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: flagpara on January 12, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
When Bitcoin raise 20k, my known person was predict that he won't surprised if Bitcoin down to 3K USD. How did he predict it, by seeing altcoins condition he predict it. My answer is no, he predict it because Bitcoin bullrun was huge then it should dump.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: d3nz on January 12, 2020, 11:02:03 PM
I think this will be the last chance for altcoins to ever get this cheap, very soon their prices will never remain the same again, only those who filled up their bags will be smiling, now is a big opportunity for altcoin lovers before altcoin market start skyrocketing
Obviously, now it is time to have some good altcoins, because I have seen altcoin top 10 so far showing a good chart to have, and I am also sure that in the future there will be more benefits that we can get through several altcoins.
Even though altcoin is a lot of rubbish, there are still many prospective altcoins going forward. altcoin junk won't last long and without innovation on its journey. different from high quality altcoin, they tend to care for their members, and provide increasingly high quality products


Only few altcoins that has product and obviously they are worthless if no one are using them since their value is below the price when  they bought it. That's why we need to choose an altcoin that has an active community and the value is not going down below 50% from its current price.

And only few altcoins can make it and follow bitcoin which is only in top ranked altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: denasha92 on January 12, 2020, 11:22:50 PM
Altcoins price is affected by the bitcoins price back then. They dumped the altcoins and buy the bitcoin, then they joined to dumped the bitcoins to save their money from a big loss. That is not fully altcoins fault. So, don't fear to invest your money in altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Rcoinmoon on January 14, 2020, 10:59:50 AM
Absolutely nothing, one of the major issues with altcoins is that they lack the support they need to excel in this space most devs don't do the needful they just create and abandon coins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: TheClownSong on January 14, 2020, 12:28:09 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

In my opinion, altcoin still has a chance to make it big even though it's hard to rival Bitcoin. Not all altcoins can be great because competition is very fierce and is influenced by many things and one of them is a product. If altcoin has a product that can be adopted in the real world, I think altcoin is able to survive and might have a chance to get a large market cap


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Faxmate on January 14, 2020, 02:34:01 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

In my opinion, altcoin still has a chance to make it big even though it's hard to rival Bitcoin. Not all altcoins can be great because competition is very fierce and is influenced by many things and one of them is a product. If altcoin has a product that can be adopted in the real world, I think altcoin is able to survive and might have a chance to get a large market cap
Yes Altcoins are good and they have such good future because Alt coins are there for all kind of people who want to use it or those who want to invest their money with. For me Altcoin has great abilities to rise this year as more people are getting on market they will help altcoins to survive and grow faster than before. Time makes Things good just wait I hope market has some miner issues for Altcoin they will be south out with time.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ttcsalam on January 14, 2020, 02:56:00 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
I am expressing my opinion with your topic. I myself invested in Alter Coins and got Loss. That's why I never refereed it.Although all the coins from Bitcoin have been created.However, through this the investment can be profitable.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: biddicoin on January 14, 2020, 03:02:47 PM
Absolutely nothing, one of the major issues with altcoins is that they lack the support they need to excel in this space most devs don't do the needful they just create and abandon coins.
I highly disagree if devs dont do hardwork to develop their coin. if so, then the alt would be zero price
this is bussiness which must be serious to do, in this case not only about price but development

we have to realize that this is bearish market. many altcoins will be going down
even when devs already make something big in their projects. but it would change as long as investors believe again in crypto
when many sign, many greedy, many hope, that's when altseason would happen.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Wipeout2097 on January 14, 2020, 03:03:59 PM
It matters that which altcoins you choose fr trade or hold,There are thousands of altcoins and every coin is not with perfect idea or more development in the future so choose the popular coins with bright future.
Still there are atltcoins surviving in cryptomaket since a decade,I think selection of altcoins matter.Never go with the cheap and lost coins but the popular and having vision for long run.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: JC btc on January 14, 2020, 03:14:52 PM
It matters that which altcoins you choose fr trade or hold,There are thousands of altcoins and every coin is not with perfect idea or more development in the future so choose the popular coins with bright future.
Still there are atltcoins surviving in cryptomaket since a decade,I think selection of altcoins matter.Never go with the cheap and lost coins but the popular and having vision for long run.

Agree with you, it really depends on the coins, if that certain coin is really a good one, then there's nothing wrong with it, but if it was just made to scam and to hype then it is really a big problem, so whether it is an altcoins, or tokens we should still learn thing how we are going to invest on them, if they are really worth it or not.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: arimamib on January 14, 2020, 03:18:34 PM
It matters that which altcoins you choose fr trade or hold,There are thousands of altcoins and every coin is not with perfect idea or more development in the future so choose the popular coins with bright future.
Still there are atltcoins surviving in cryptomaket since a decade,I think selection of altcoins matter.Never go with the cheap and lost coins but the popular and having vision for long run.
yes so far in the selection of altcoin must be selective because in search of profits must be different, invest in the top altcoin for the long term and trade if there is altcoin that has potential at that time because to trade we must find potential coins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Mihaylovic on January 14, 2020, 03:28:46 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Bitcoin was around 20k usd at all time high. It is around 8k usd at the moment. It lost about 60% of its value. On the other hand even major altcoins lost around 90% of their value. So it is normal that people are nervous about holding altcoins nowadays.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: nutriagrigia on January 14, 2020, 03:44:46 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Bitcoin was around 20k usd at all time high. It is around 8k usd at the moment. It lost about 60% of its value. On the other hand even major altcoins lost around 90% of their value. So it is normal that people are nervous about holding altcoins nowadays.
people are nervous because they invested their money without studying the coins in which they invested. those people who are sure that the coins which they are holding are fundamentally very strong - donít worry that now these coins have lost 90 percent of their value. People are happy about it and they  buy more in order to get more profit later


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Meowth05 on January 14, 2020, 03:52:04 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
Indeed, I think there's nothing wrong with some Altcoins, I know that most of them are crap but there are still good ones that are capable of giving a profit. Altcoins are just like Bitcoin if it falls and so for altcoins, the only thing altcoins doesn't good right now is because we are still in a bear market but I am pretty sure that as bullish trend comes it everything will be good, whether it is Bitcoin or Altcoins. I think it is just a matter of what altcoins are you going to use, I will recommend to choose among the top-ranked altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ChronoLite on January 14, 2020, 03:58:32 PM
yes, people are blaming altcoins because they feel shit about it because they lost too much and become mad. i would say it's completely normal if certain altcoins are having a bad day such as Ethereum and any other coins, bitcoin and ethereum are not that connected in terms of price so saying that if bitcoin is up and then altcoin should be up as well is a completely wrong statement.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ven7net on January 14, 2020, 04:12:51 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

You should understand that now cryptocurrency will not grow so simply. Now there is a game and in this game everything goes according to the rules written in advance. For example, if according to the rules of the game in 2020 BTC should reach 20 000 USD, then this will be done, but this does not mean that all other altcoins will also go up. Altcoins also have their own rules in this game, and we can see that non-correct altcrins are growing, while others are not in circulation. All this shows that players act according to the rules and based on them set the movement in the crypto market. Here the main thing is to understand one thing, if this is a game, then we need to play, but this does not mean that everyone will win, there will be those who lose.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Mihaylovic on January 14, 2020, 04:28:13 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Bitcoin was around 20k usd at all time high. It is around 8k usd at the moment. It lost about 60% of its value. On the other hand even major altcoins lost around 90% of their value. So it is normal that people are nervous about holding altcoins nowadays.
people are nervous because they invested their money without studying the coins in which they invested. those people who are sure that the coins which they are holding are fundamentally very strong - donít worry that now these coins have lost 90 percent of their value. People are happy about it and they  buy more in order to get more profit later
I partially agree.
But please do not forget that even the very major cryptocurrencies falled down too much. Check ethereum. İt is the strongest crypto currency and has vitalik rulling it. but it even falled too much.
I agree that it is a good chance to buy more for the ones that you believe in.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: OasisDre on January 14, 2020, 05:38:20 PM
The key to investing in crypto is about time, knowing when to jump in will make you have rest of mind, for example this bear market shrinked the life out of many altcoins like 90-98& off, who do you think will benefit the most if you jump right in now? You will be buying at the cheapest price ever


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Bim abk on January 14, 2020, 05:52:33 PM
The key to investing in crypto is about time, knowing when to jump in will make you have rest of mind, for example this bear market shrinked the life out of many altcoins like 90-98& off, who do you think will benefit the most if you jump right in now? You will be buying at the cheapest price ever
in investing it is important to determine when to buy and sell and also have potential coins, altcoin may not currently provide much long-term benefits, but we can still take advantage of short-term investments or trading with altcoin. so whatever the coins and investments depend on ourselves when choosing investment time.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: volport on January 14, 2020, 09:02:16 PM
Much depends on the solution. Talking about me, number 1 component is practical value and real benefits I get. For example, I often attend sport events and really tired of frauds and misleadings on the market. Conducted a little research and found out that there is blockchain based and popular solution, called GET protocol. Anyone of you heard already? Cause platform seem to be having great background with many strong partnerships, more than 300k tickets being sold etc. Wanted to discuss with you guys


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: key4co.in on January 14, 2020, 09:34:22 PM
The key to investing in crypto is about time, knowing when to jump in will make you have rest of mind, for example this bear market shrinked the life out of many altcoins like 90-98& off, who do you think will benefit the most if you jump right in now? You will be buying at the cheapest price ever

Cheapest price ever for real? Well, that might be true for a few coins but not for many. If actually you want to "jump in" per say and get some altcoins which dipped considerably, be sure you are not buying in already pumped coins to avoid heartbreaks since there was a recent market uptrend. For instance, check out the uptrend for BSV. Also, some coins might be considered "cheap" but yet not good to hold if they don't have good development progress and a dedicated team.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Nezerlan on January 14, 2020, 10:13:53 PM
Altcoins have lost value because most of the promises these projects made have been left unfulfilled. A lot of promising projects have exit-scam or abandoned their project and ensured it lost volume totally on the exchanges.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: jagaban on January 14, 2020, 10:20:38 PM
Altcoins have disappointed a lot. Did you see bitcoin go below 1k USD in price? But here with altcoins, you see them dip below their starting price and just keep going further down. I have had $245 worth of coin dip to $0.72cents worth. Altcoins are not safe for investing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: fireball4 on January 16, 2020, 08:42:11 PM
The altcoin will rising in the future, no need to worry. When bitcoin's down, some altcoin's down too, but not all altcoin's going down because the altcoin's trying to recover in a hard time if you check the market. This year, Ethereum cannot increase because Bitcoin is not rising higher, and Bitcoin is simply moving up and down. But if bitcoin gets a bull run, ethereum will also have a bull run time with the other altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: posi on January 17, 2020, 11:08:55 AM
Altcoins have disappointed a lot. Did you see bitcoin go below 1k USD in price? But here with altcoins, you see them dip below their starting price and just keep going further down. I have had $245 worth of coin dip to $0.72cents worth. Altcoins are not safe for investing.
You're partially right because the altcoin market does experience dip in price but the altcoin market does not disappointed by any means because the crypto market as whole is currently in manipulated vicinity and the altcoin market are know for being quick in respond to manipulation


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: awakpane on January 17, 2020, 11:17:32 AM
In my opinion, some altcoins do not move up, because people have started to run out of patience in investing, especially lately a lot of altcoin is declining in value but it is difficult to boost the movement when other altcoins have begun to improve. but specifically we do not know the factors that hamper altcoin movements occur.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Nickz46 on January 17, 2020, 01:10:30 PM
There are a lot of wrong things in altcoins now so many of the are not profitable and probably scam, thats why many investors are quiting in investments that why i recommend ACI COIN for investment.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: jolle123 on January 18, 2020, 11:31:12 AM
Exactly. Its just a matter of time. Because it is the key to invest in tje crypto. Learn to be patient, kowing when to jump in will make you have rest of mind. And ofcourse learn to choose the best kind of alts just like the Aci coin for making a really good investment.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: GideonGono on January 18, 2020, 12:32:05 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

It can also good for trading, not only for hold because it is depend on you if you want to hold it or add more because of the cheap price. There are good and bad side of altcoin so you must need to know before act like that.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Inkdatar on January 18, 2020, 01:08:07 PM
In my opinion, some altcoins do not move up, because people have started to run out of patience in investing, especially lately a lot of altcoin is declining in value but it is difficult to boost the movement when other altcoins have begun to improve. but specifically we do not know the factors that hamper altcoin movements occur.
There so many altcoins that's why before we invest lets have time to check and search if the project is good and if it's profitable. Some alts do not move in the market because of no updates about their project and let's not invest on shitcoins. So invest on alts that we can gain profit.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Kimonoe on January 18, 2020, 01:14:34 PM
In my opinion, some altcoins do not move up, because people have started to run out of patience in investing, especially lately a lot of altcoin is declining in value but it is difficult to boost the movement when other altcoins have begun to improve. but specifically we do not know the factors that hamper altcoin movements occur.
There so many altcoins that's why before we invest lets have time to check and search if the project is good and if it's profitable. Some alts do not move in the market because of no updates about their project and let's not invest on shitcoins. So invest on alts that we can gain profit.
many say that altcoin ranked in the top 10 is a potential altcoin, than we invest. there is nothing wrong with altcoin, of course many people want to get big money, therefore we must be careful not to get caught in shitcoin


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: deathcode on January 18, 2020, 01:29:13 PM
In my opinion, some altcoins do not move up, because people have started to run out of patience in investing, especially lately a lot of altcoin is declining in value but it is difficult to boost the movement when other altcoins have begun to improve. but specifically we do not know the factors that hamper altcoin movements occur.
There so many altcoins that's why before we invest lets have time to check and search if the project is good and if it's profitable. Some alts do not move in the market because of no updates about their project and let's not invest on shitcoins. So invest on alts that we can gain profit.
many say that altcoin ranked in the top 10 is a potential altcoin, than we invest. there is nothing wrong with altcoin, of course many people want to get big money, therefore we must be careful not to get caught in shitcoin
it all depends on how we do the assessment to choose our chosen altcoin. even though it doesn't make the top 10 altcoin I guess every altcoin has their best moments.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: sangjoewara on January 18, 2020, 01:34:37 PM
There are a lot of wrong things in altcoins now so many of the are not profitable and probably scam, thats why many investors are quiting in investments that why i recommend ACI COIN for investment.
One question from me, whether ACI coins will not experience a scam? so you dare to give recommendations to everyone here, even for investors as well, try to tell us a little about the advantages possessed by the coin ACI you mentioned.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Thomas-s on January 18, 2020, 03:31:09 PM
The altcoin will rising in the future, no need to worry. When bitcoin's down, some altcoin's down too, but not all altcoin's going down because the altcoin's trying to recover in a hard time if you check the market. This year, Ethereum cannot increase because Bitcoin is not rising higher, and Bitcoin is simply moving up and down. But if bitcoin gets a bull run, ethereum will also have a bull run time with the other altcoin.

it will all depend on if people believe in Ethereum or not. I really hope that the next bull run will be created not by stupid investors, but by people who really chose the right coins that this market needs. we must not let all altcoins grow again. only the best coins will grow and the market will be healthier


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: huu78 on January 18, 2020, 03:48:20 PM
Indeed it does not hurt to buy an altcoin for the year 2020 because if the time altcoin season happens ready-ready those who buy a nice altcoin will be able to feel, fortunately. However if only nonsense without buying and analyzing those who are in Coinmarketcap Top Rank do not invest in crypto because it is supposed to be at risk.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wack slacker on January 18, 2020, 03:59:09 PM
I feel that what is happening is perfectly reasonable and it should be.  Cryptocurrencies are all startup projects today and they contribute to our lives in a small field.  So few people use them and the price of cryptocurrencies is low.  Due to low demand, they have low transaction volumes and most of them are transactions to manipulate their exchange rates.  In the future, cryptocurrencies will have more users and the value of cryptocurrencies will certainly increase.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: purebitco on January 19, 2020, 09:11:11 PM
There's actually nothing wrong with altcoin. Major Altcoin like LTC, XRP, and so on are still stable today. Only altcoin garbage has reduced the volume of trading above fifty percent. At the moment, the only debate is just a new altcoin with the potential to become altcoin trash. Altcoin major, as I mentioned above, is rarely discussed, although they have been proven to have a good development for years, but with bitcoin they have lost the price difference. That's what concerns a lot of people.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: tartibaya on January 19, 2020, 09:45:30 PM
I think we still have time to invest in Altcoin. Because I come to this conclusion when I examine the prices. In general, many projects have come down to the initial price. Prices rose slightly in the last week. There may be a retreat.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Ashong Salonga on January 19, 2020, 10:21:27 PM
There is really nothing wrong with Altcoins. What is the wrong is the concept and having the mindset of generalizing that all Altcoins are failure and all are scams which is not totally true because there are still potential and good Altcoins that are existing within the cryptocurrency market. Also, the wrong thing that you might be doing is that you are not being picky on choosing the Altcoins you are investing with that is why you are ending up having loss instead of profit. We are in a vast world of cryptocurrency which means that there is a lot of variations of cryptos so if we wanted to invest into good coins aside from Bitcoin, we need to exert effort on doing research to be able to find potential Altcoins or we can just be reliant into the top ranked coins to be able to ensure that we are investing into a good Altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Brunus on January 19, 2020, 11:24:15 PM
Nothing is wrong with the altcoins?!?!??!?!?!
Ah, no, absolutely nothing, except for the small detail that almost all of the altcoins lost between 95%  and 99% of their value last year and have not moved since then...  :(
For the rest, everything is fine ...


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: SlimShadyMmp on January 19, 2020, 11:58:07 PM
There is basically no way BTC rise to 20k without halving altcoins sharing the achievement man I mean it will be really obvious that things will pickup and more activities around crypto will be much more than ever but the issue remains is BTC going to hit 20k again


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Endikadija on January 20, 2020, 12:20:10 AM
I think we still have time to invest in Altcoin. Because I come to this conclusion when I examine the prices. In general, many projects have come down to the initial price. Prices rose slightly in the last week. There may be a retreat.
The answer should be anytime and it's just not we have the time. The bullish trend has been showing its power again after a few years of dump. This cycle must happen to make the market becomes stable. Only bad projects that were getting dumped again to the initial price but the major coins are still getting traded above the initial price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Omega Weapon on January 24, 2020, 02:20:49 AM
I feel that what is happening is perfectly reasonable and it should be.  Cryptocurrencies are all startup projects today and they contribute to our lives in a small field.  So few people use them and the price of cryptocurrencies is low.  Due to low demand, they have low transaction volumes and most of them are transactions to manipulate their exchange rates.  In the future, cryptocurrencies will have more users and the value of cryptocurrencies will certainly increase.
Do not get your hopes up, it is true that in the future some altcoins will become successful and will become adopted by people but this is not yet the time so the majority of those coins will disappear and you will lose your money because of it, it is better to play it safe and invest in bitcoin and only once some of those altcoins have showed to you that they can stand the test of time then you should invest in them, you will not obtain as much profits as if you invested in them at the beginning but the risk of losing your money will be quite low.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Shimmiry on January 24, 2020, 02:49:55 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

never hate altcoins just because it's price always go down whenever the Bitcoin's market is pumping and raising. Most traders would see it as an opportunity to nuy some good altcoins to hold for long term investments. The cryptocurrency market is so volatile and the coin's prices fluctuates really fast then highs and lows are normal. It must be a lesson learned if you would lose on altcoins becuase it would only means that you either invested on a shitcoin or you panic then sold it.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: setialovers on January 24, 2020, 03:37:09 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Bitcoin price movements affect altcoin prices and I think this is reasonable because the cryptocurrency market is Bitcoin. Altcoin which has a large market cap value will also be affected by Bitcoin but in my opinion it has an opportunity to grow


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: barabarian1 on January 24, 2020, 06:31:38 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

yes i agree with you there is nothing wrong with altcoin. the last two years altcoin has indeed lost its value but this is natural because we are in the bear market and the trend is down. yesterday when bitcoin increased from $ 7k to $ 9k the altcoin market also rose. this proves that when bitcoin is pumping and altcoin can also pump. and I'm sure if later we are in the bull market we will see the top altcoin will pump high. so stay afloat and hold Altcoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: trauchot on January 24, 2020, 10:55:26 AM
Bitcoin pumps more often and much faster than altcoins, with altcoins things have been going much worse for the third year in a row and it is not known what will happen to altcoins this year, so we should always invest only in top altcoins so that we will get at least some profit when top altcoins will show at least some increase in price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cryp24x on January 24, 2020, 04:00:47 PM
I feel that what is happening is perfectly reasonable and it should be.  Cryptocurrencies are all startup projects today and they contribute to our lives in a small field.  So few people use them and the price of cryptocurrencies is low.  Due to low demand, they have low transaction volumes and most of them are transactions to manipulate their exchange rates.  In the future, cryptocurrencies will have more users and the value of cryptocurrencies will certainly increase.
I agree with this. Altcoins are just as normal as Bitcoin right now. We are still in bear season and it is just right to be on that rate. I guess some don't monitor Bitcoin and rely only to Altcoins price. Well, we need to evaluate first the market based on Bitcoin as our main reference. Let's give the altcoins a chance to prove itself when Bitcoin starts to rise up and Altcoins remains on its lowest proce, then we can say that this altcoin is a bunch of crap.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Sassee on January 24, 2020, 07:17:26 PM
The thing about alt coins is, they dip more in beaish periods and moon more in bullish market is a two edged sword.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: MancyZz on January 24, 2020, 07:34:43 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
yes for safety make sure to choice top altcoins in coinmarket cap. in my opinion exactly nothing wrong with altcoins and i am still to be fans of altcoins and investor of altcoins. i still buy and save altcoins till now and waiting for altcoins  increase high price and sure that thinking still positive that altcoins price will good in the future


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ecnalubma on January 25, 2020, 12:56:07 AM
Its true because its a fact that most altcoins are dependent on Bitcoins price. However if the Bitcoinís prices improve so the altcoin does. Lets understand tha hate but the market in general is still struggling to recover from what it had experience in 2017.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: valuater on January 25, 2020, 06:19:05 PM
Indeed, altcoin is fine there is no problem wrong is people who buy alt maybe because they are too eager to make a profit to forget that altcoin is more volatile than bitcoin and fluctuating itself seems to be found in all crypto, especially btc, it is better before buying altcoin take a look first by doing a little research because it seems like this is good for preventing large losses.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wingfield_crypto on January 26, 2020, 07:16:03 AM
     It has no influence on the price fluctuations of the altcoins, to lower the BTC price. People lose hope in altcoins because on the crypto market, lots of altcoin appear, but its do not have potential and disappear quickly, and investors lose their money. People no longer trust new altcoins, not all altcoins. Altcoins in the top 100 coinmarketcap have huge potential, and will increase the majority to a new bull run.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kambaralikhan on January 26, 2020, 09:19:45 AM
I think actually the fault is not with the altcoins, It all depends on the investor's perspective. Most of the Investors choose BTC over altcoins for long term investment and alts as short term profit making, pumping and dumping style of trading that's why alts usually lack price stability and they dramatically rise and fall as compared to BTC.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: rahmathidayat93 on January 26, 2020, 10:15:53 AM
     It has no influence on the price fluctuations of the altcoins, to lower the BTC price. People lose hope in altcoins because on the crypto market, lots of altcoin appear, but its do not have potential and disappear quickly, and investors lose their money. People no longer trust new altcoins, not all altcoins. Altcoins in the top 100 coinmarketcap have huge potential, and will increase the majority to a new bull run.
That's right, and I personally also prefer the old altcoin over the new altcoin, because if we look at the potential price increase, the old altcoin is more promising than the new altcoin, because the new altcoin still needs further development to be really strong in the market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: tianglistrik on January 26, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
     It has no influence on the price fluctuations of the altcoins, to lower the BTC price. People lose hope in altcoins because on the crypto market, lots of altcoin appear, but its do not have potential and disappear quickly, and investors lose their money. People no longer trust new altcoins, not all altcoins. Altcoins in the top 100 coinmarketcap have huge potential, and will increase the majority to a new bull run.
That's right, and I personally also prefer the old altcoin over the new altcoin, because if we look at the potential price increase, the old altcoin is more promising than the new altcoin, because the new altcoin still needs further development to be really strong in the market.
Old altcoin is indeed more promising because they already have a lot of trading volume. Price action on the old Altcoin also often happens, and it is better to choose the old altcoin and if you want to invest in a new altcoin then a small amount, and make sure you are willing to lose because of the high risk.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: infarterr on January 26, 2020, 10:43:32 AM
Old altcoin is indeed more promising because they already have a lot of trading volume. Price action on the old Altcoin also often happens, and it is better to choose the old altcoin and if you want to invest in a new altcoin then a small amount, and make sure you are willing to lose because of the high risk.
When we talk about risk, then no one is willing to lose their assets or lose their money, so now the average is prefering the old altcoin to the new one, because the old altcoin does look really strong in terms of volume and price and many enthusiasts in the market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: reallester on January 26, 2020, 10:47:44 AM
There is absolutely nothing with having or holding altcoins. As a matter of fact, Altcoins have given traders more profits that bitcoin didn't give.  Something will only be wrong when you hold or trade shit coins. They eventually would rekt you.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kapalmabur on January 26, 2020, 11:05:36 AM
Its true because its a fact that most altcoins are dependent on Bitcoins price. However if the Bitcoinís prices improve so the altcoin does. Lets understand tha hate but the market in general is still struggling to recover from what it had experience in 2017.
Bitcoin prices are improving altcoin prices for Bitcoin pairs will decline, that's how the market does it !, it's not good in my opinion, I prefer the price of Bitcoin being accumulated, it can make altcoin go up


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cryptoangel on January 26, 2020, 11:34:06 AM
Old altcoin is indeed more promising because they already have a lot of trading volume. Price action on the old Altcoin also often happens, and it is better to choose the old altcoin and if you want to invest in a new altcoin then a small amount, and make sure you are willing to lose because of the high risk.
When we talk about risk, then no one is willing to lose their assets or lose their money, so now the average is prefering the old altcoin to the new one, because the old altcoin does look really strong in terms of volume and price and many enthusiasts in the market.
This comparison is really disappointed in many investors because old and new both are altcoins, so we must analyse the potential of altcoins and invest our satisfy projects. Nowadays most of the peoples are invest the rapid growing altcoins so these kind of the prices are never affect the investment, may be volume is play the major role in crypto platform.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: bangjoe on January 26, 2020, 01:12:39 PM
I think actually the fault is not with the altcoins, It all depends on the investor's perspective. Most of the Investors choose BTC over altcoins for long term investment and alts as short term profit making, pumping and dumping style of trading that's why alts usually lack price stability and they dramatically rise and fall as compared to BTC.
That applies to altcoin which is already strong with daily price and volume positions, usually if it goes down too badly then investors will be involved by announcing a series of project development plans. Different things happen to weak coins with market reaction, they really can not move and die, in this case investors also can not do anything but sell their part and this is the real wrong part.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: JCviggen on January 26, 2020, 02:25:12 PM
There is absolutely nothing with having or holding altcoins. As a matter of fact, Altcoins have given traders more profits that bitcoin didn't give.  Something will only be wrong when you hold or trade shit coins. They eventually would rekt you.
if you have the right and safe strategy then trading of altcoins will not always will rekt you. you just donít need to be greedy and you need to sell your coins on time. the main problem of people who lose money investing in altcoins is greed. so just choose the right coins and don't forget to look at the prices


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Kevondo on January 27, 2020, 05:07:31 PM
Its true because its a fact that most altcoins are dependent on Bitcoins price. However if the Bitcoinís prices improve so the altcoin does. Lets understand tha hate but the market in general is still struggling to recover from what it had experience in 2017.
Bitcoin is the first ever crypto currency and all crypto investors and developers agree on this point that bitcoin influences rest of the whole market with its pumps and dumps. What people experienced in 2017 was amazing, bitcoin was walking on the moon and people are expecting same after the halving procedure which is predicted to happen within 6,7 months. Altcoins will increase in value once bitcoin does.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on January 27, 2020, 05:23:11 PM
Your confidence actually surprises me. I am one of those skeptical guys, who think that the altcoins are going to drop further. And this will be the case when the next block reward halving happens for Bitcoin. If there is no big spike, then we can expect another major bearish phase to start and it may last for at least 2-3 years. And altcoins may get affected more than BTC or any of the Bitcoin forks.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: magnum cyber on January 27, 2020, 05:24:04 PM
I always tell new investors or old investors not to invest with coins that are difficult to develop. I mean, coins that do not have better price growth are abandoned and replaced with coins that are more suitable for investment. and to minimize the risk of loss, I think you need to invest with the top cryptoqurrency in the CMC market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: doomloop on January 27, 2020, 05:28:54 PM
There is absolutely nothing with having or holding altcoins. As a matter of fact, Altcoins have given traders more profits that bitcoin didn't give.  Something will only be wrong when you hold or trade shit coins. They eventually would rekt you.
I do agree with your idea many Altcoins are working very well and you can adopt them for both holding if you want to do long term trading and also short term trading. The status of Altcoins was previously wronged by the scammers who caught users in their net by using Altcoins. Now we have found a considerable change in their performance and trust ability both.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: GGmith on January 27, 2020, 07:13:42 PM
So, what should be to blame? Is it because altcoin has lost value or do you think that altcoin is no longer profitable? for me personally there is no other reason to keep holding top altcoin like ETH / BNB, because I believe that altcoin above still has a chance to increase its price again.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: dainoran on January 27, 2020, 07:58:15 PM
too many altcoins and new tokens that cannot last long and disappear from the market. but there are also some altcoins that have survived to date, such as ETH, LTC, XRP and doge.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: JCviggen on January 27, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
too many altcoins and new tokens that cannot last long and disappear from the market. but there are also some altcoins that have survived to date, such as ETH, LTC, XRP and doge.
the fact that these coins still exist does not mean that they are all really good. they had a huge capitalization, but now it has also fallen very much. these projects have collected a lot of money and therefore they can continue to exist until now, but they can also disappear after some time


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Sanugarid on January 27, 2020, 09:05:04 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins
From top coin best experience is the Litecoin and Binance coin. Last year Binance blockchain news and Litecoin halving change the situation of this coin, now again correction. Those coin had a latest news just like this year has Cardano, Bitcoin, Ethereum and Energi.
There is indeed nothing wrong about altcoins, there are lots of altcoins that are promising that are being produced few years ago it is actually a good investment for you if you have one but since the time you waited is very long, for some people they are not believing if they are still gonna get some money to that but the market nowadays are not that good like before so why can't we just wait for the right time that market recovers and make every cryptocurrency prices go up. There are still lots of altcoins now that can make you profitable, you just need to choose wisely.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Omega Weapon on January 29, 2020, 02:29:57 AM
Its true because its a fact that most altcoins are dependent on Bitcoins price. However if the Bitcoinís prices improve so the altcoin does. Lets understand tha hate but the market in general is still struggling to recover from what it had experience in 2017.
It is true there is an important correlation between bitcoin and the price of most altcoins but at the same time during the last years altcoins have moved more independently from bitcoin but the problem is that this mostly applies when bitcoin is moving up and altcoins instead of moving up with bitcoin they do not move at all or their movement is many times smaller than bitcoin and it is why altcoins have not been very profitable during the last years.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Yudam on January 31, 2020, 07:41:14 AM
Actually in general all the alternative coins have the same fluctuating nature when there is a change in the price of bitcoin. The striking thing that can distinguish these altcoins is how the management team they have can maintain their existence.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kak uli on February 03, 2020, 06:17:09 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

everything that happens has its own era or time. as happened at the beginning of 2018 many altcoins are soaring up high to rival the rise of bitcoin. so too now bitcoin is experiencing a tremendous price decline that has slightly reduced the confidence of its users and presents doubts for some crypto traders to invest. and hopefully in 2020 the price of altcoin can go up again like in 2018 ago.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: royalfestus on February 03, 2020, 08:55:58 PM
Everything seem to be satisfying the desire of the OP. We have seen altcoin (bitcoin sv) at x5 only in this year and was able to around 3x after it dumped. Ethereum had made good bitcoin value increase, same with few numbers of altcoins on the top 100 CMC. There are possibilities to see the trend throughout the year if they maintain confidence for investors.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: FaithInCrypto on February 04, 2020, 12:14:14 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

If BTC raises up, expect that altcoins follow so there is no use hating altcoins in my POV. Both have different purposes in the crypto world so you can't dismiss altcoins but I do agree that you will only have a problem if you invest in altcoins that you don't know. You should do your own research before investing as others do. I know most of the investors don't trust some altcoins anymore probably because a lot of ICOs have gone wrong in the early years. The competition in altcoins is fierce so I guess only those who are able to keep up stays in the game.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: BITCOIN4X on February 04, 2020, 12:31:17 AM
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An increase in the price of altcoin which is influenced by an increase in bitcoin prices will usually also go down when the price of bitcoin has decreased. Altcoin is a clear form which is a large scale project created after the existence of bitcoin. I dont think that this is a form of competition but rather towards using the right ideas and business opportunities.

I would say this is a competition when altcoin does not follow the trend of bitcoin prices and is purely an increase and decrease based on the development of the project. But many altcoins will continue to be affected and keep abreast of the trend in bitcoin prices and I dont think it is a competition.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: RussiaCoinDotInfo on February 04, 2020, 12:43:15 AM
It's been proven over the last few years (think this time two years ago) whenever Bitcoin rises, it usually drags up the price of the other alt/cryptos as well. And, when the price falls so too do the alts.

Some coins are fashionable for a while (especially after ICO launch) but the true test is their application in the wider community.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Shasha80 on February 04, 2020, 01:05:26 AM
People who lack knowledge in the world of crypto investment will blame altcoins for the losses they experience. Because they should
who blamed themselves, because they choose the wrong coins and did not understand the correct way of investing. In my opinion there
is nothing wrong with altcoins when prices suddenly dump, and our capital runs out because of a drastic decrease in altcoins. In the
world of crypto investment price movements are very volatile and what moves prices is really supply and demand. So from that in order
to succeed investing in altcoins we must be diligent in learning about the world of crypto, so we can have the ability to read market
movements.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: mamahdedeh on February 04, 2020, 02:23:06 AM
It's been proven over the last few years (think this time two years ago) whenever Bitcoin rises, it usually drags up the price of the other alt/cryptos as well. And, when the price falls so too do the alts.

Some coins are fashionable for a while (especially after ICO launch) but the true test is their application in the wider community.
indeed the movement of bitcoin will be followed by other altcoins, although not all altcoins, only altcoins can survive. while altcoin which is not able to develop will become junk coins. of course trust and community become the main capital of altcoin to develop, besides that products that help the community can make altcoin will still exist



Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 04, 2020, 03:01:05 AM
ROFL... Nobody is blaming the altcoins because they are losing value. The altcoins are being blamed, because many of them have turned out to be scams and the promoters have indulged in unethical practises to make profits from them. On top of that, there have been heavy market manipulations with many of these altcoins. And the worst part is that the promoters usually make their exit, once they are able to profit out of the market manipulation. In the end, everyone loses out, including the investors, bounty hunters and even the exchanges where these coins are being listed. The drop in exchange rate was directly caused by these factors and this is why many of the coins have become dead and many others have lost more than 95% of their value.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: joeperry on February 04, 2020, 12:41:47 PM
I think that neither Bitcoin or Altcoins are to blame for the decreased value of one coin or another. These crypto currencies are changing their value passively brought about by the demand and supply. However, unethical intentions in such launching a coin to the market in disguised for fraud and manipulation somehow affect the other coins but not necessarily the main factor for the change of its value. People must be keen in investing and indulging themselves in different types of coins because it might be one of the major factor why such coin exist, persevere and trouble other people.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: deeameea27 on February 06, 2020, 12:24:32 AM
Indeed nothing is wrong with altcoins, the main issue is that we get a bad price also because of bear market and also because a lot of scams ICO and hacking stuff, but we wait for bull market.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: GREENch on February 06, 2020, 04:20:15 PM
In recent days, the situation on the cryptocurrency market has changed slightly in favor of altcoins. For example, since the beginning of 2020, BTC has grown by 34% and ETH by 63%. As for LTC and EOS, they are even higher - by 78%. This gives a bit of optimism, now many will turn to altcoins face and more closely begin to study new and existing projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: cafoo4161 on February 06, 2020, 05:52:05 PM
You're right sir nothing wrong with altcoins but altcoins without serving anything is all wrong. People just create coins and waiting for people buy and sell it. 2019 was mostly scam year with currencies without project. I hope 2020 will be different. Also i wait for HOX Token which going to list three big exchanges and developing own mainnet. I hope HOX will be listed at Kucoin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on February 06, 2020, 06:00:13 PM
In recent days, the situation on the cryptocurrency market has changed slightly in favor of altcoins. For example, since the beginning of 2020, BTC has grown by 34% and ETH by 63%. As for LTC and EOS, they are even higher - by 78%. This gives a bit of optimism, now many will turn to altcoins face and more closely begin to study new and existing projects.

It is too early to compare the trends, because we had just one month in to 2020 so far. It is true that Ether had a slight jump so far, but we also need to remember that the Ethereum exchange rates (versus Bitcoin) was going down for most part of Q3 and Q4 2019. I would rather say that the altcoin prices are moving towards stabilization after an extended bearish phase.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: gensol on February 06, 2020, 06:13:41 PM
If we have noticed, Bitcoin dominance has reduced a bit which means Altcoins are gearing up for a move as well. At every Bitcoin mega move, alts will decline except the two markets are moving up together.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Mighty_crypt on February 06, 2020, 06:32:24 PM
If we have noticed, Bitcoin dominance has reduced a bit which means Altcoins are gearing up for a move as well. At every Bitcoin mega move, alts will decline except the two markets are moving up together.
If bitcoin dominance haven't decrease it would have been a sad story for all altcoins by now and thanks to bitcoin now many will start believing that altcoins haven't lost its strong movement yet, just imagine if bitcoin reach 20k again many altcoins will bring massive ROI


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Spider A4 on February 06, 2020, 06:39:39 PM
LTC,BNB was not going fall down? how these are fine in your perception, among all of top ranking altcoins i think BNB is still 60% down but struggling to recover, i never worried BNB because it's will recover in front of big IEO wazrix, as well as LTC price so lower in currently and going lost ranking gradually.

Nothing big affected in EOS that is your correct explanation, in the market price is cool.  


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: TemTum on February 06, 2020, 10:11:30 PM
Great to see adoption happening on TemTumís blockchain

Currently an average of 30,000 non exchange transactions per day and increasing - it took bitcoin over three years to hit the same milestone

The future looks promising as more and more companies and national state test out temtums blockchain

source for Bitcoin stat - https://www.blockchain.com/charts/n-transactions?timespan=all



Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: puertorikosena on February 07, 2020, 09:12:35 AM
I think that altcoins pump will certainly be. Bitcoin now shows bullish sentiment and other coins are also starting to move. The situation is changing and this is a good sign. I think those who have money to invest in cryptocurrency will be able to make money in the near future. Just need to consider all the risks.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: GREENch on February 07, 2020, 04:06:49 PM
In recent days, the situation on the cryptocurrency market has changed slightly in favor of altcoins. For example, since the beginning of 2020, BTC has grown by 34% and ETH by 63%. As for LTC and EOS, they are even higher - by 78%. This gives a bit of optimism, now many will turn to altcoins face and more closely begin to study new and existing projects.
It is too early to compare the trends, because we had just one month in to 2020 so far. It is true that Ether had a slight jump so far, but we also need to remember that the Ethereum exchange rates (versus Bitcoin) was going down for most part of Q3 and Q4 2019. I would rather say that the altcoin prices are moving towards stabilization after an extended bearish phase.
The market always alternates between UPS and downs, and even an "all-powerful" technical analysis cannot predict how long this will last. I do not give advice on buying or not buying cryptocurrencies, I just gave a little statistics and expressed my opinion about investing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: olabsd on February 08, 2020, 02:37:12 PM
The question is interesting, however I would definitely recommend you to evaluate solutions on your own after recommendations. Cause your own experience matters a lot as well, own requirements, own vision. You cannot just follow the platform someone recommends


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: jetskur on February 08, 2020, 02:38:18 PM
The question is interesting, however I would definitely recommend you to evaluate solutions on your own after recommendations. Cause your own experience matters a lot as well, own requirements, own vision. You cannot just follow the platform someone recommends

Hey. I absolutely agree with you and this is also the strategy I follow. What is important as well - innovations, milestones and working product. At least for me. By the way, talking about you, are there many solutions you follow these days? How are you usually discovering new ones?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: olabsd on February 08, 2020, 02:43:51 PM
Hey. I absolutely agree with you and this is also the strategy I follow. What is important as well - innovations, milestones and working product. At least for me. By the way, talking about you, are there many solutions you follow these days? How are you usually discovering new ones?

Nope, I cannot say that there are many, only 2 or 3 most advanced ones. Basically, my favorite these days is Verasity with their VRA token. Guys are coming with entirely new standards on video sharing industry, having more than 700k active users. What I am really impressed with - VRA token is having truly high trading volume, leading Binance DEX and is already listed on Kucoin (more Tier 1 exchanges listings are planned). And there are pretty bold milestones being met, for example, Verasity has proved its value to publishers by dramatically increasing viewer engagement and video views on their site domains to 1.3M viewers. Of course, I recommend you to check out their website to explore more


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: jetskur on February 08, 2020, 02:44:39 PM
Nope, I cannot say that there are many, only 2 or 3 most advanced ones. Basically, my favorite these days is Verasity with their VRA token. Guys are coming with entirely new standards on video sharing industry, having more than 700k active users. What I am really impressed with - VRA token is having truly high trading volume, leading Binance DEX and is already listed on Kucoin (more Tier 1 exchanges listings are planned). And there are pretty bold milestones being met, for example, Verasity has proved its value to publishers by dramatically increasing viewer engagement and video views on their site domains to 1.3M viewers. Of course, I recommend you to check out their website to explore more

From your words definitely sounds impressing. I will check out more shortly and get back with thoughts


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: shoreno on February 08, 2020, 02:50:08 PM
If we have noticed, Bitcoin dominance has reduced a bit which means Altcoins are gearing up for a move as well. At every Bitcoin mega move, alts will decline except the two markets are moving up together.

i dont think so .  bitcoin wont losoe its dominance because most of the users are going to prioritize btc more than anything else but if you mean the increase of the price of btc is lower than what the alts increase , that could be because btc is too expensive but alts have less expensive price and that gives an illusion of a higher price increase .  nothing is wrong with altcoin  but if you think there is then that is already your problem  . alts are only just a coin but people are making a decision if what will happen to them  .


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: olabsd on February 08, 2020, 02:50:53 PM
From your words definitely sounds impressing. I will check out more shortly and get back with thoughts

Will be waiting for you, pretty sure you will find out many great aspects there


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: kevinzxz on February 08, 2020, 09:36:43 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I agree with you, altcoin which will never give us profit is altcoin which does not have a product or project from altcoin that has no progress, so that the price of altcoin will never increase and will become shitcoin, but if we hold altcoin that really has a good product, then we don't need to worry about holding it, because the price will increase if the market starts to recover and there is a bull run.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wellay on February 12, 2020, 08:23:55 PM
Blockchain solutions are progressing more and more into specific industries that used to work without it few years ago. And to be honest, I am pretty impressed with the value that certain worthwhile blockchain solutions are bringing to the table. Even though, many parameters must be analyzed before blindly believing in the benefits


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: juegav on February 12, 2020, 08:24:31 PM
Blockchain solutions are progressing more and more into specific industries that used to work without it few years ago. And to be honest, I am pretty impressed with the value that certain worthwhile blockchain solutions are bringing to the table. Even though, many parameters must be analyzed before blindly believing in the benefits

Hey. This is true. And what are the industries you are following? And how are you basically exploring new solutions on the market?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wellay on February 12, 2020, 08:31:56 PM
Hey. This is true. And what are the industries you are following? And how are you basically exploring new solutions on the market?

I attend lots of music festivals and sporting events, which is why I was excited when I discovered GET Protocol. It seems like a really cool solution with a lot of adoption and promising future. I wanted to share some info about them and ask for your opinion. GET Protocol offers a blockchain-based smart ticketing solution that can be used by anybody who wants to sell tickets in an honest and transparent way


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: juegav on February 12, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
I attend lots of music festivals and sporting events, which is why I was excited when I discovered GET Protocol. It seems like a really cool solution with a lot of adoption and promising future. I wanted to share some info about them and ask for your opinion. GET Protocol offers a blockchain-based smart ticketing solution that can be used by anybody who wants to sell tickets in an honest and transparent way

Hmm, this sounds interesting as this is the in demand industry. But can you probably come up with more info on GET protocol?


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: wellay on February 12, 2020, 08:40:35 PM
Hmm, this sounds interesting as this is the in demand industry. But can you probably come up with more info on GET protocol?

Basically, as I said, guys are bringing blockchain onto ticketing industry. And results so far are amazing - around 300k tickets are sold, partnership with Oerrock festival and more. What do you think of the guys? In my opinion, new standards on the market. Of course, I recommend you to have a closer look at their website to have deeper understanding of the idea. Pretty sure that you will be impressed


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: juegav on February 12, 2020, 08:42:49 PM
Basically, as I said, guys are bringing blockchain onto ticketing industry. And results so far are amazing - around 300k tickets are sold, partnership with Oerrock festival and more. What do you think of the guys? In my opinion, new standards on the market. Of course, I recommend you to have a closer look at their website to have deeper understanding of the idea. Pretty sure that you will be impressed

So far indeed sounds interesting, will definitely have a look on my own and get back with own thoughts shortly! Thank you for your recommendation


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: letyouearn on February 15, 2020, 03:45:47 PM
How do you feel about altcoins now, guys? Looks better, huh? :)
Peolple's mood is easily manipulated by the market makers, it's always funny to watch these changes :)


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Chuky92 on February 15, 2020, 05:14:30 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

I love the last line " you can only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins" this is just the truth of the whole matter. It doesn't make sense to hate the entire altcoins, but it is justifiable to hate most altcoins because they lacks value and utility while altcoins like the one you mentioned are trying their best to stand out. Lastly, there is no coin which hasn't lost value or dropped in price before but the ability to bounce back is what makes the altcoin in question a valuable and worthy one. So in my own opinion, it is not right to hate the entire altcoins because of a drop in price of which Bitcoin isn't exempted.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: b1boy on February 16, 2020, 03:52:33 PM
Practically all the crypto  currencies lost its incentive from untouched high yet this isn't the genuine purpose behind individuals to despise! Increasingly more new cryptos however everything transforms into trick so individuals really lost enthusiasm on new cryptos which additionally influences the cost of old altcoins and furthermore the pattern of crypto cost advertise.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: poodle63 on February 16, 2020, 03:59:29 PM
The question is interesting, however I would definitely recommend you to evaluate solutions on your own after recommendations. Cause your own experience matters a lot as well, own requirements, own vision. You cannot just follow the platform someone recommends
DYOR will always become the main thing in this case as what we should do just need to analyze anything before we can try to join on such altcoin. Some recommendations are not even wrong if that comes from the trusted members with a very good reputation among the crypto users. Just put DYOR as the main consideration before trying to take any step.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: travwill on February 25, 2020, 07:49:51 PM
Actually in general all the alternative coins have the same fluctuating nature when there is a change in the price of bitcoin. The striking thing that can distinguish these altcoins is how the management team they have can maintain their existence.

Any increase in the price of an alternative coin is due primarily to the fact that new money is pouring into it. This can be a real investment of large capital or fake using bots and fictitious cheat volumes.
In any case, there is some pattern related to the quality of the project.

Even if a project stands still for a long time, but has a potentially profitable idea, there is a high probability that a large market maker will enter this project and begin to manipulate the price.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: aemma on February 25, 2020, 08:49:48 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

Bear market affect all coins but there is something that makes others to stand out and that is, their ability to regain its value when the market changes positively.
Also, i will tend to be a bit specific, nothing is wrong with few altcoins but a whole lot is wrong with majority of altcoins. Talking about few altcoins, am referring to those top or major altcoins like Eth and few others which are showing signs of development with proofs to back it up. On the other hand, majority of altcoins are not worth it, it's either the team will give excuses why the project will be suspended or excuses as to why the roadmap needs to change and so forth. Some will even delay development with no good reason as to why the development is being suspended, hence all these leads to one thing, a token with no value. Therefore let's endeavour to stick to those altcoins which are working and it's evident for all to see.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Jannyh on February 25, 2020, 09:27:59 PM
Well presently almost all altcoin are down, this could also be a reason caused by bitcoin, because it is also falling,we noticed  that when BTC is moving up, some coins tend to move or when it is stable. So it is obvious altcoin is so much dependent on the bitcoin and as well as their price movement


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: rdewilde on March 04, 2020, 09:12:56 AM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

First thing First, the market is affected by many things, where there are coins which stands to ensure they aren't too affected others are helpless. That is, when bear market sets in, all coins will lose value and most people will convert to stablecoins to protect their funds, in bear market both Bitcoin and altcoins drops in value that is for sure, but what happens after the bear market? This is a question that really matters a lot.
No one should blame altcoins from dropping in value as it is people that invest, trade and hold them and can do whatever they want just to be safe, but one can really blame some altcoins and this comes in when there is a bull run and they aren't moving while others are moving; thus showing that, the particular altcoin in question lacks a lot hence the reason investors moved to others already booming. To answer the question that really matters, taking BNB as an example, the team is bringing in services such as more fiat support to ensure the relevance of the platform, so in this case investors have reasons to invest every now and then. Therefore, investing in good altcoins is very important so as to be on the winning side.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: ArIMy11 on March 04, 2020, 10:27:49 AM
Yes there is nothing wrong with alts. In fact, I earned more in alts than in bitcoin in the year 2017 not only because I joined most alt campaign but I saw the alt potential that time. Some alts has a price 0.1 to 1 dollar way back 2017, if I earned 3000 of it through a bounty campaign then it will be $3000 dollar. If the alt is a good coin then its price will rise. What if it reaches 5 dollars each ? Then I will be having $15,000.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Shallow on March 11, 2020, 07:51:32 PM
It is sad but from the look of things, there are many crap altcoins out there which always makes it look like investing in most altcoins is a waste of time. Apart from major altcoins or even top 100 to make a research on other altcoins isn't that easy as the rate of worthless coins keeps increasing. But yet I would say nothing is wrong with all altcoins as there are still a little number worth getting investing in, on the other hand it isn't right to judge all altcoins because of bear market as it also affects even Bitcoin. So the main idea is, invest with good altcoins such that even if there is bear market which all coin are affected when there is bull run those altcoins will still be able to run along.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: TheMystic on March 23, 2020, 06:12:21 PM
I will start hating altcoins only when bitcoin raise up to 20,000$ and altcoins fail to move up as well, many people are putting blames on altcoins today as if bitcoin is not in loss itself, the ATH of btc was 20k and now it's trading for 7,000+ thats like 12,000$ lost please how will this not affect other altcoins as well? Top altcoins will surely lose value as well, to me this present loss of altcoins are positive, look at coins like LTC, EOS, BNB, these coins are doing fine. You will only have problem if you invest in crap altcoins

You have listed my exact holding of altcoins. There is every possibility of altcoins pumping alongside btc when bullish season comes, also there are many altcoins in the market doing very well even when btc does not pump, it all depends on the market. But I still think crypto season has it's pump and dump period... It just can't be predicted


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: muffinitem on March 23, 2020, 09:39:01 PM
TEM price is up 6.7% in the last 24 hours.
it's been holding steady pretty much since this all started, once corona is back under control and news of their partnership with governments to use their blockchain for a national digital currency hits....i really believe it will be a moonshot coin.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Teawhalee on March 30, 2020, 08:33:30 PM
No one is blaming altcoin but you can't compare the recovery rate of Bitcoin to other coins. Not everyone knows how to select a good altcoin to trade and this can cause alot of loss.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: AssociatesBumble579 on May 07, 2020, 08:11:40 PM
It is acceptable and i  agree that some altcoins are better to use and some example of that are eth,bch,xrp,litecoin , ltc,dash,doge that turn useful and helpful for long / short term invest in my opinion .It is proven that  some of are altcoin can raise up with higher price above 10% and higher with price altcoin still lower will get much profit, but never choose wrong altcoin for investing which can be the cause of your beloved money .


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: BlackboardTrade524 on May 11, 2020, 06:34:30 PM
The most important thing to investing in crypto is about knowing time hits , research,observation and dedication on this market when to buy and sell and also have potential coins in your portfolio . Currently altcoin may not provide much long-term benefits, but we can still take observation of short-term investments or trading with altcoin. so whatever the coins and investments depend on ourselves when you pick the right time to earn some big bucks . I Hope the mother of all coin bitcoin will gets the bull run,which bring some hope to the altcoins .







Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: adjed on May 11, 2020, 06:53:49 PM
At least many altcoins price failed start year 2018 basically when bitcoin price drop out long. Especially investing is crypto also risk hits too so risk free better you can make learned trade. This crypto market so never response makes profits quickly so do invest long-trem and before observation about those projects.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Slingshot on May 11, 2020, 07:29:45 PM
Despite the bitcoin halving everyone is expecting and thinking it would prevent altcoins from moving I can see some that are really pumping without having to wait for halving to occur. I do really see bitcoin halving to be an issue with altcoins as strong ones are still doing good.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: thesmallgod on May 11, 2020, 07:34:39 PM
What I have discover in the past is that when there is bull run, traders tend to dump altcoin to buy more bitcoin. Although the altcoin to will grow but it wont bullish like bitcoin some altcoin such as ETH are more likely to rise than others because people also prefer buying and trading ETH and Bitcoin a lotn


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: tunapa on May 11, 2020, 09:49:26 PM
Bitcoin is still better. Ability to rise , recover from dip no matter how long it could be. Can be traded , no much dumping or manipulation from large owners. Altcoins are not usually like this. I have had my experience and I won't take my chances again.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Slingshot on May 19, 2020, 07:57:39 PM
Presently se altcoins are doing pretty good aside the aforementioned coins even with the state of BTC, I would say coins gave their own season of riding and once it gets to that season it moves. Nothing is wrong with altcoins wether BTC moves or not though Altcoin season helps but let's understand this fact that altcoins have their various season.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: StephenJH on May 19, 2020, 11:46:01 PM
At least many altcoins price failed start year 2018 basically when bitcoin price drop out long. Especially investing is crypto also risk hits too so risk free better you can make learned trade. This crypto market so never response makes profits quickly so do invest long-trem and before observation about those projects.
l agree with your opinion since the beginning of 2018 altcoins started to get down, of course there were a lot of reasons. But it seems they keep still getting down, maybe the main reason is this epidemic. However as you above mentioned to prefer altcoins is so risky right now, it is no exaggeration to say that, l don't think all of them are useless, maybe top altcoins can be more profitable in the near future.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: MCobian on May 19, 2020, 11:59:41 PM
It's funny to see people blaming altcoins for bad prices or alt season not coming. Because the person is not study the data in my opinion
and these people wrongly chose altcoins for investment. Because of the fact from the beginning of 2020, until now I made a profit several
times from altcoins. Let me give you a little hint, try to pay attention to the Litecoin movement, if we look at Litecoin its movements are
volatile following the movements of bitcoin. And very positive for traders to make a profit from Litecoin. So be careful choosing coins for
investment, avoid new altcoins. Invest in top altcoins that already have popularity and high volume. So from that I am sure we all can make
profits from altcoins.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Greatchu on May 20, 2020, 07:31:12 AM
Everything is wrong with altcoins, new altcoin get released with promising whitepaper and use case but in the end you lose, price goes below ICO price, must altcoins depends on Bitcoin to surge? This the most annoying part


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Jorge158 on May 20, 2020, 08:20:41 AM
Q1 2020, most people thought altcoins were going down the drain but the fact is without altcoins the market will not stand. Why this? Most people are into cryptocurrency now because of the use cases some altcoins like MTC doc, Lympo, $DIVI, etc provide. This use cases are real life use cases which allows investors to also use cryptocurrecy to patronize some services.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: romelitounknown on May 20, 2020, 08:35:56 AM
Altcoins should not rely only with bitcoin price to succeed,altcoins should have their own use cases and value to survive the competition.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: lienfaye on May 20, 2020, 09:37:11 AM
Altcoins should not rely only with bitcoin price to succeed,altcoins should have their own use cases and value to survive the competition.
The use case of an altcoin is important to survive and not depending only to bitcoin. Investors will support and invest if they see that this particular altcoin is valuable and can solve real problem. But if you're holding a shitcoin dont expect the price to grow or to survive during bearish market because alts with no use cases are unlikely to recover back after staying in dip.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: rahmatullah9305 on May 20, 2020, 10:08:33 AM
Altcoins should not rely only with bitcoin price to succeed,altcoins should have their own use cases and value to survive the competition.
Yes, in fact things like that that must be owned by every Altcoin, only the problem is when Bitcoin does not exist, Altcoin also does not exist, and when Bitcoin has been discovered, soon Altcoin started popping up with time, so it's only natural that Altcoin is dependent on Bitcoin, because Altcoin developers certainly see examples and ways of working that already exist in Bitcoin, so they can also build Altcoin well.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Natalim on May 20, 2020, 10:34:05 AM
Everything is wrong with altcoins, new altcoin get released with promising whitepaper and use case but in the end you lose, price goes below ICO price, must altcoins depends on Bitcoin to surge? This the most annoying part

The thing is you are just looking at its short term success but if you look further, for sure you'll be able to appreciate altcoins.
Also, do consider that altcoins is a big market, it's compose of thousands of coins/tokens and per reality, 10% or below are the projects that has a good potential in the market, so if you know that reality, you would not be disappointed as you can still choose the right altcoins to invest.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: anhhung409 on May 20, 2020, 12:25:02 PM
I agree that some altcoins are better to use and not all examples of them are eth, bch, xrp, ltc, dash, doge become useful and useful in the long run. top altcoins if you plan to hold in the long term, most new altcoins are good for short-term holdings but altcoins don't have a product and a large community, so they can't exist, this is like a natural rule, they could not adapt, so were excluded from battle. So when bitcoin increased, they could not track it, due to a lack of trust from investors.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: r32godzilla on May 20, 2020, 12:32:54 PM
Donīt forget about the fact that we have more altcoins, the altcoins now have more coins in the circulation, so if you would like to push altcoins back to 2017 prices, you need much more money for that.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Vohoanghiep on May 20, 2020, 01:20:06 PM
Some lose faith in altcoins while some still believe in it, which is normal in the cryptocurrency space. There are a lot of alts and tokens here that are not useful at all just developed at first but after a few months either one year they turn out to be very low or unfortunately they will disappear then that's why many people think that tokens are nothing at all. On the other hand, some people have increased quite a lot compared to bitcoin. time, don't forget that. And that could happen again at least for a small number of altcoins. And if that were to happen, some people now considered pocket owners could become wealthy investors.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: spike420211 on May 23, 2020, 12:55:38 PM
Yes there is nothing wrong with alts. In fact, I earned more in alts than in bitcoin in the year 2017 not only because I joined most alt campaign but I saw the alt potential that time. Some alts has a price 0.1 to 1 dollar way back 2017, if I earned 3000 of it through a bounty campaign then it will be $3000 dollar. If the alt is a good coin then its price will rise. What if it reaches 5 dollars each ? Then I will be having $15,000.

What kind of alternative coins are you talking about? Personally, I doubt that a miracle will happen and your 3000 coins will turn into $ 3000 because this is an incredible 10 times growth.
This only happens with coins with impeccable marketing and various speculative features that allow you to create excitement at this level of demand exceeds supply.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: oli123 on May 23, 2020, 02:09:24 PM
It is always good to check which altcoin you invest your money in. But it is good to invest in new only as much as you are willing to lose. Because you don't know how the project will develop.
I wouldn't have to worry about investing in verified ones like ltc or bnb. Altoins are an excellent form of long-term investment at a time when prices are not skyrocketing.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: Convery on May 23, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
Many people believe in altcoins so much, but we should be more pragmatic. XRP token is the 3rd biggest cryptocurrency, but it is almost 140times less used than Bitcoin according the daily transaction volume.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: SacriFries11 on May 23, 2020, 02:57:38 PM
It is always good to check which altcoin you invest your money in. But it is good to invest in new only as much as you are willing to lose. Because you don't know how the project will develop.
I wouldn't have to worry about investing in verified ones like ltc or bnb. Altoins are an excellent form of long-term investment at a time when prices are not skyrocketing.
I cancelled my plans investing in new launch altcoins. Its very risky now, almost all of them are scams and even the big investors are continuing to avoid this projects. I can't imagine how people struggle to find a real project nowadays. Its very tough and I just advise to them to trust only the coins that already listed.


Title: Re: Nothing is wrong with altcoins
Post by: hamba laeh on July 19, 2020, 08:05:20 PM
I also think the same as you that at the moment there is nothing wrong with altcoin because altcoin also runs according to its own trends like bitcoin. although now many altcoins are undergoing a bad phase in various cryptocurency markets, but there are still many altcoins that are growing well.