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Recently I saw tokens generated from the bounty project 4 months ago and it was very unexpected that the price of the OKS $ 0.0239 token increased very sharply and volume in 24 hours (+ 718.94%).

https://i.ibb.co/j4mKGC9/ethere.png (https://ibb.co/nk92fXq)


Exchange:

1. https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/OKS-BTC
https://i.ibb.co/QYXT5BH/probit.png (https://ibb.co/JrCGhLp)

2. https://vindax.com/exchange-base.html?symbol=OKS_ETH
https://i.ibb.co/Kq7CYbP/vindax-eth.png (https://ibb.co/ncfhT6G)

Is this real? or just manipulation of prices in the market?
which makes me a little doubtful, because the token is listed in the shade exchange!

but if this is really real, How lucky for you to have participated in the OKSchain gift project.

In general, most tokens from new projects listed on the exchange are indeed a little unique. Namely, the pump and dump game. On average, the price of the token at the beginning of the listing will be set in such a way as to attract investors and convince the token holders of that new token.
However, we wait for some time, whether the price of the pump can survive or go up within a vulnerable period of just 2 weeks, it will be good.
But usually, prices will return to normal even a very drastic dump when many people have sold their tokens and the price manipulation is over.

I am not sure if it is price manipulation or not, because I see the buy and sell orders are not much different, if the price manipulation is definitely buying and selling order history is different and from the transaction history there is also no suspicion, maybe you can wait a few days to make sure

Without much proof it is hard to tell if a coin is being manipulated much in an exchange. However, like someone suggested, it is wise to take your time and observe the charts and trading volume of the coin for a couple of days before jumping on the train to buy

To be honest, no one will truly know if it's an organic growth or pump and dump action since no one has really been following the coin. However, the market have seen such sudden movements countless time in the past so i'd say it's not a new thing and some of them happen to be a natural growth due to increase in adoption, while others were mere manipulations and action of pump and dump by either the team or some whales waiting to take off profits

That's a pump and dump game, it can also be considered as a manipulation. You must remember about the main thing to determine whether it was getting manipulated or not based on how much daily trade volume and the gap between any buy order. okschain coin has already manipulated on its price. Look at the gap between the first order and the second order.

The market is always organized and the whale is the one who decides everything because this game is just to find the winner, so in any investment there will be a risk and certainly the opportunity for you to make a profits will be very low. For some investors, they only care about profits and that is the main reason why these investors always fail because they do not have much knowledge about this market. Personally, I have been here for many years and have a lot of experience to survive when the market starts to decline.

700%+ increased in market price is surely manipulation regardless of whatever the news is or whatever they are doing. For your info, this is not surprising because we see a lot of coins gain such price all time. Check the coinmarketcap top gainers, you will find at least one everyday.

This is manipulated for sure the price movements clearly shows that, there is still clear evidence that it is apparent. The idea is pretty simple whales will accumulate coins of the small market cap Cryptocurrency, then they will convince other to buy and the price will dramatically increase. The whales then dump their coins, which may cause a big drop in price.

A friend has been speculating about this coin in our group, never even knew this had a bounty. Looking at the chart the buy order in the good price seems to be very huge as compared to the huge volume in the big bull order, whatever it's, it's important to check their website or GitHub to track project development in other to0 avoid buying a PnD.

If you consider the exchanges it was listed we can presume that this is a manipulation. Probit and vindax are both known for this manipulation. Actually even on other major exchange it is happening. How come it will just suddenly rise right? We can observe also the volume if its manipulated by clicking the trade history. You can see a order taken that is not on the first order of sell and meaning they skipping the gap just to raise the price.

If you rely on tracker volume, this will also be useless cause example cmc just record volume that has been made even though there is not quantity on that price.

What do you think? Altcoin project suddenly puts orders on market, price jumps a lot, and makes alerts all over the community groups and countless Telegram channels,,, so yes it is market manipulation it always is. Tokens with no utility and no demand jump in price? 100%

Looks more like a pump and dump scheme, it's a sharp turn and a sharp drop, that doesn't look normal to me, don't doubt about the chart it's definitely a manipulation, I hope you were able to sell when price was at the highest

Follow for several weeks and you know if they really did pump and dump or manipulation here. Because if they did, they can't sustain this for long. But for users who want to jump now, just make sure that you are ready to get losses in case this is mere bait. No one is stopping from joining this but I think this is market manipulation. Is there a reason of why the sudden jump? If there is none, then be careful dealing with this project.

Maybe they have set it up nicely, in the last couple of days that's why it is hard to detect the pump and dump here. But for me it's pretty obvious though, this token is very quite and then then suddenly exploded like this. If this is not pump and dump, then I clearly don't know what it is by now.

Those trading signal groups are selectively looking for coins to be their next potential pump and this is fits their agenda, no one will notice it until it is too late and probably caught some of us to invest and join the ride. I do hope though that they will get out in time because I'm sure in the next couple of days the price will go down hard.

I would be suspicious of all sudden price movements for very small coins. Obviously the smaller the coin, the easier it is to manipulate the price. The simplest way to determine if the movement is genuine is to look for recent news about the coin. If there is a genuine reason for the coin to rise, then likely it is normal FOMO price movement. But if you can't find any reason why the coin should be increasing dramatically in price, then it screams pump-and-dump.

The two exchanges that I know often manipulate volume, pump and dump so I'm not surprised if an increase of more than 100% in both exchanges

Merely looking at the chart you can see clearly that this is a pump and dump movement, and adding to my point is the two exchanges that the coin are trading on, they are well known for pump and dump schemes

Manipulation become part of crypto industry, we can't prevent it. When a coin suddenly raised price or dumped price means someone behind of this and trying hard to manipulate. Most of this manipulation happen from whales and innocents traders like us loss fund by falling such as trap. Most of manipulation happen on worst and shady exchange like OP mentioned above. I will suggest don't fall on such trap if you can't afford loss, its something swing trade and it's quite risky. Better choose more trusted exchange rather than worst exchange so there will be low chances of trap.

We don't know if that is true or not but perhaps, there is a pump and dump that will happen to that tokens because if someone has a large amount of that token, he can easily to dump the token until it reaches low price. But if the team of the project aware of that, they will hold the price so it will not decrease so deep, and they will try to push the price to back the last price. Perhaps, the manipulation really happens behind us. Probably, that is from some whales, or that is because many traders buy and sell of that token.

just look at the bids there.

someone wanted to buy 1 OKS for 0.0002 ETH while the real price is 0.0000006 ETH. of course it will pump that much but those who will sell will not profit.
its a manipulation of course we do see that everyday.

It's coming from you that it was listed in a "shady exhange". Then there is a greater probability that the token 's performance were just manipulated by the pump and dump team. It's not even new. I mean, it was the usual scenario of the new tokens that was newly launched. It's for the purpose of convincing and to attract investors to  buy their token. Well, let's see how this token will perform in the long run.

It is not manipulation if the price can stay stable on that position, maybe someone was buybacking the token with higher price ?
We should look for the price on other exchanges, if the price rising too, then i think it is not market manipulation.

It could be a manipulation.
Who is behind it? We don't know.
It could be some whack trader that just want to make the price go up since he bought a large amount of it.
Or it could be the company.
But, we don't have proofs to provide for facts so we can leave it as it is.

Somehow, there will be a time it will be corrected. That is if the exchange does want it to.

I just visited the link you shared right now and as of this moment, the only volume of the coin is around 11-12 ETH.

With this low volume, a coin can easily be manipulated by those whales or a group or rich investors who wants to get profit. Sometimes the dev themselves are the ones who are pumping and dumping it. In short these are just pump and dump coins nothing more nothing less.

I'm wrong maybe but one thing is for sure, the coin is being manipulated as it is easy to pump and dump with that amount of volume right now.

Yes, the market does not make manipulations, because basically those who make manipulations are people who are always and are active in the market, because they also want to benefit from the prices of tokens in the market.

That was an insane pump, but you don't have to ask whether there is a manipulation or not as the market itself is manipulated.
It's an opportunity to sell at this point as eventually the price will drop soon, no project can sustain a stable increase at this situation, that's my opinion.

I think it's the depend on the back  history of buy and sell any tokens in the market.

Even though you have the tokens as long it is considered manipulation you cant dump it since they are using the bots to use for trading and skipped the sell orders of those who are selling. This is completely insane, I do hope there is a punishment for using too much manipulations to these exchange. I think vindax has an active allegation due to their cheating on IEO, what more on trading. Tsk bad exchanges dont use those two not good foe traders.

Not because there is a sudden pump, you'll already think it's manipulation, I guess it's necessary to find out the reason behind and if there is a valid reason then it's normal that the price will rise, however, I can see that there is only low volume so there's less liquidity in this project.

projects with less volume can easily be manipulated,, but it does not say it's being manipulated now.

In my opinion, probit exchange has not been manipulated so far. even many who trade refer to probit. and if the price of a token rises sharply and a large volume in the market is indeed a reality if it occurs on a good exchange in reputation. not all markets are manipulations.

I think we have too little detail to give OKS the final verdict of manipulation or not. So you guys should look at the exchange that lists OKS and judge whatever they are trusted or not. Probit and Vindax exchange is completely unknown to me so I take those increase as a grain of salt.

Probit basically does not have many investors involved so whales do not need to manipulate because there is very poor liquidity here. I don't think exchange can determine anything in this market and only Bitcoin can change the market if volatility occurs. Of course, everyone will have different thoughts when it comes to this problem, but probit is nothing in the crypto market.

All that does not depend on the history of buying and selling, because traders in the market have bought at a low price and sell at a high price, so it all depends on the size of the demand and sales in the market on any token.

Its volume is very low so the price can easily rise high in a short time. Never care about altcoins like this because its price will collapse quickly in the same way that it went up. I have seen a lot of shitcoin like that and it has made many greedy investors fail

manipulation or not but the current price is the right time for bounty participants to sell it, too bad I don't follow the okschain bounty.
this is why I personally continue to do bounty work because we do not know what will happen in the future about the project.
what is certain is that today's prices are real.

Basically this has is a case of a pure pump and likely to be fake volumes. Regardless of the ups and downs, what you see is exactly what happen to new tokens launched on exchanges at the very first times. There was a similar case that happened on Binance few days ago, SOL was listed and within few minutes of their launched the token took a sharp  curve and within a few hours again the price was dumped hardly. Though, this is where am always interested on newly launched tokens, because, I usually take my profit in the first days of the launched.

It is definitely a pump from a certain group of people to scam some newbies. It's huge in 24 hours of course. People who participated in OKSchain bounty are definitely lucky if there has enough of the liquidity of course. But looking at the pump and the price, I doubt there are enough liquidity on this.

that's true and it's clear if this coin has already manipulated. There was a very small order of coin with a high price. That means when someone just waste a few satoshis to buy okscoin and the coin will get a huge increase caused by these exchange sites already used to get the data to be used on CMC. It's a garbage pump and dump

i really agree with this post. in indonesia we can call it "cukong market" maybe the team want to increase the price, but only time will show them up. Just remember, wait for a second

With that growth I guess there is manipulation but those exchanges has negative reviews so maybe it is. It is not good time to buy that price because they will dump it for sure.

These things may occur in a low cap coin if some large buyer or seller mistakenly misplaces a order different in price than they were supposed to. Occasionally, the change is also due to technical errors from the exchange. We have even seen such changes in price of ethereum, a large cap coin in a popular exchange like coinbase. It crashed from $320 to $0.1.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/24/coinbase-is-reimbursing-losses-caused-by-the-ethereum-flash-crash/

New investors are only interested in profit and this is the main reason why so many coins easily dump in a short time. Maybe the crypto market doesn't have as much potential as people think because it depends a lot on investor confidence. Of course this market has been manipulated and this has been anticipated so before investing should consider and decide carefully.

Manipulation or not, if you are the seller and you sell well good. the people that need to worry are those that bought the top. Anything can be manipulated, as it is for Gold, Oil and Bitcoin. There is no way to know the true value of a commodity

Because every investor has feared this market. In 2018 2019, a lot of people believed in altcoins in the long term. But as a result, those altcoins died and became scams, and made many investors lose money. Now investors will be ready to dump when prices go up 5-10% to ensure profit

Yes, that's right, investors have been discouraged about investing in 2018 and 2019, so they obviously don't want this to happen to themselves again, so it would be very natural for them to be ready to throw away when prices rise by 5-10 % to ensure profit.

I guess that is real because the pump is coming to the market, but if the price is back to the price before, I think that can be manipulated by people who have big money that can move the price. I think we will going to see that thing happens in many exchanges, and I guess that in a big exchange, that will happens too since in the big exchanges, many people who have big money. I think they want to make a big profit in a short time so people who have that money will try to move the price.

Doing good research save you up from possibilities of getting hooked to projects that being played/manipulated, The actions that you are witnessing from exchange that you are not trusting should be consider whenever you are planning to invest your money. Most of the time investors who participated from new projects only aimed for quick benefits so together with bounty hunters the project can easily be dumped, if you wanted to keep yourself safe from being trapped make sure to properly do your own study and sort every information that will helps you to decide with every investment that you'll going to take.

Aside from market manipulation & all that kind of things, some coins have low liquidity & even $100 can make them move 100% in couple of seconds.
Yes, manipulation does exist in crypto & even the great Binance do that for some of his Coin that it list when they do their IEO into their exchanges, you should be familiar with that by now.

Well, it is both manipulation and also not. That right there looks like a pump and dump or a misclick or maybe a faulty bot, there is just one time huge increase and fall very very quickly but that was it.

So, as you can see it wasn't really purely a manipulation because whoever increased it that much couldn't also profit from it since they couldn't buy from that level and also get rid of it at around those levels neither, would have killed all the momentum it had and would actually cost them money if they did it willingly so there is no way it was manipulation.

However it created some sort of buzz around it so it could have been for news reasons, cheap marketing, it used to be 41 satoshi before that and now its over 300 satoshi, which is really cool increase all by itself.

Don't be surprised if some of the coins that's already dead came back from the living and start pumping unstoppable, there's something wrong.
It's best for you not to ride the hype of that coin and just ignore the rise. If you ride and you sell late, goodbye to your money.

when viewed from the graph shows that the price of coins increased very significantly and is very unlikely if someone did it themselves. I think this is a form of price manipulation in the market, but if you want to invest in new coins, pay attention to how the project team works and don't just look at it in terms of profits. be careful with that.

Most of the tokens were created for the purpose of bump and dump and look at the increase in volume it is not organic so its blatant manipulation.So look for the coins with market cap of atleast over 500 btc which maybe harder for someone to manipulate with such value or simply go for other coins or tokens.

With 2 BTC ($14,000+) on probit exchange, and 11 ETH ($1,800$ +) on vindax as volume of the OKS token, thats to show us that the token trades more on the probit exchange with a convenient but low trading volume (24hr).

With this, i do not think it is a price manipulation; it may be a dump/pump situation; but it does not negate the fact that the token did really to increase in price and volume.
It is now left to go back to the drawing board, dyor and decide whether to get in or get out.

Judging from the data above, it seems indeed true that it was manipulation or it could be that the rising price of the coin was due to the influence of the news. yes as we know about pumps and dumps, but usually a new project after pumping is high then it is most likely that it can go down drastically.

As you said, the token is listed in the shady exchange...
So in fact you already know the answer ;)

This project is just trying to raise money on a wave of hype on the blockchain.
Future plans OKSCHAIN project... Run away with all your money ;D

There is a lot of this every now and then, and if you are holding just take your profit and move on because it will go down as usual and this time might be bad. Also, comparing data from the price increase it is likely not to be manipulation nevertheless do not let down your guard when you see token growth like this because most tokens we have today are just for pump and dump, nothing more nothing less and this might be one of them.

The key is the gap between the buy and sell order. If you have identified that there was something that makes you doubt about that and that is manipulated. i can even do that to buy a single coin with a good price to manipulate the market. Just stop to believe the market when it was having a big gap. Mostly whales or pumpers are doing it

stay away from this token as much as possible. have seen that countless times and only one direction they are heading - in the trash bin!

they say probit was a scam exchange same as latoken  , p2p and others  ( i forgot thier names ) but there were so many of them  .  but what is that oks coin ?  sounds like a coin asociated with okex but the coin should be only found on okex exchange and not on probit so prolly not  . 710 percent is a massive increase for coin that is not than known but unknown coins are mainly the ones that pumped out much compare  to classic ones  . there are even coins on yobit that pump 1000 percent higher than this  . just be realistic tho becasue mostly they are a trap

the probit and p2pb2b markets are notoriously bad, many projects listed there do not give good results, and trade volumes are fake. be careful when trading there and usually the new tokens generated from the ICO project will pump at the start and drop dramatically after disposal.

Normally some projects like these are usually being pumped and dumped by investors; market manipulation. It's up to you on what you want to do. Investing in these projects is not a must, if to you it is suspicious, then you should forget about it and look for another project.

I avoid these tokens nowadays, though there are few I have seen that happened to be really good and not a price manipulation, and before you know it, they are already at the top of the market. So before you invest in any project, it is good for you to do proper research on what you're investing on, that will give you the proper clue on where things are really heading to.

the tokens of almost all the icos experience a drop in value when once the ico reaches the exchanges, in my opinion we have to wait a few months and follow the price changes before we can say whether that specific market is manipulated or not

It is true that probit does not have many investors, but as far as development so far, probit has not been included in the category of market manipulation. natural thing if someone has a different thought kana but must also refer to the reality that occurs in assuming something.

There is no cryptocurrency out there that is not subject to market manipulation.
As long as crypto usage is not mainstream adopted, market manipulation will keep driving this crypto space.

you have so many experiences in trend i think, but maybe you can add some analytical trend to make sure your post is proved

I'm not the user of both exchanges, so I can really sure that the movement price was real.

As have stated by @Reggajati the new coin/token is really vulnerable to be used as a pump and dump scheme.

Moreover, one of the exchanges ( vindax exchange ) has a bad reputation on this forum, you can see some accusations regarding to the exchange.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214706.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173500.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228774.0

Yes, and the thing that you said that I have seen in several cases in the new tokens in the two exchanges, only for the exchange of fake volumes is only a little if we compare it with P2PB2B exchanges which have very many fake volumes.

If we are talking about tokens especially the newly projects who increases their price in just a short period of time, you should be careful to it and make sure to not fall to this kind of tactics. If it is true, there is a big possibility that is a doing of group that pumps the price of a certain token and dumps it anytime they like as there are many groups like these.

There is also a little chance that the project owner is behind the scene or there is a little manipulation in the exchange. All of it are possible but if you have some OKS token then it is your chance to sell your holdings so you can get your profit already.

Yes, whatever we say at this time will be better if there is evidence directly, but what I understand from shadowdio's review is that he is afraid of buying tokens at the current price because he remembers the disposal of tokens that will occur later on.

That's simple, just wait until the price get dump and buy it at its cheap price if you believe the price will eventually.
It's a strategy that has been working when I am investing in major coins in the market, I buy at dip and sell at peak, manipulation is happening we can't stop it, but knowing how people are doing it, this gives us an opportunity to enjoy this kind of situation.

just using simple logic such token that is not really well known being pumped out of sudden is just not right. Whether it's market manipulation or not I'd advise to stay away from such token not to mention that after big pump like this the coin price will usually fall down really deep. the fact that it's also listed in shady exchange is a dead give away. People really need to wakeup that buying such token with no real utility is kinda pointless.

This issue isn't new to the market and this is pretty obvious that was run by pump and dump group. They are manipulating the price market to attract noobs and fall into their net. It is actually surprising and it is really eye-catching but due to market awareness, it helps to lessen the number of victims. And that is why is much important to do the research before investing or much safe if we invest those projects that are existed for many years.

You are right, this is only the virtual price of this token. There will be a big gap between buy and sell orders, and the price of this token will collapse quickly in the same way it has increased. Never invest in low volume altcoins because their prices can collapse anytime

I conclude based on my interpretation that is one way of market manipulation. The team deliberately placed market prices with their "standard" even though they had to sweep orders below (by buying them). Then the trading bot is installed as if it has a stable trading volume and circulation. That is the old way.

The crypto market is very easy to manipulate and is currently completely controlled by whales so in investing you need to have a reasonable investment strategy to avoid unnecessary risks. I think investors are the ones who are most likely to lose money from the market at any given moment because one mistake can cause them to lose more than half their assets. Personally, I only invest in the bear market and will sell all when the target is reached.

Look at the buy order, it's all fake. Even the distance between buy and sell orders is too far apart. I saw it about 100 times apart and even more so. Obviously they are using a few BTC to make the price rise and deceive investors, if anyone buys them then I believe they will lose many times if they want to sell them later.

In crypto price manipulations are happening every day, this is just another one

Definitely pump and dumps are a kind of manipulation where the team or the big investors purchases most of, if not all, the buy orders resulting in yhe pump and encouraging others to buy as well for quick profits and when people fomo in the peak forms the investors sells his inventory there causing dump and the only person in profit is the investor/manipulator in the end.

Therefore we need to be careful with trading on coins with small market, we have to ensure that we are the one who will be profitable and will not end up a bag holder. I pity the newbie who will fall for this pump and dump scheme, but we can't prevent this from happening as it has become the norms in the market.

Please be more clear about the purpose of crypto price manipulation happening every day,
because traders who already have a lot of experience can always benefit every day.

the graph is leading to a very significant increase, it looks like the project team is pumping it to attract investors. on the one hand, probit and Vindax are dangerous exchanges, the trading volume there is invalid and I am worried investors will trust this project after seeing prices rise high.

i see it, i dont want anyone post on this topic just to make a signature campaign post without prove, it sh*t post right? but on the other hand i agree on that things

If I were you, I will rather focus on checking what must have influenced the price. Generally, more demand for a particular token is what raise the price. Is the project achieved a particular milestone that makes people want to buy the token from those market ?. If nothing like that occur, I will rather conclude that it is a coordinated pump

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If I were you, I will rather focus on checking what must have influenced the price. Generally, more demand for a particular token is what raise the price. Is the project achieved a particular milestone that makes people want to buy the token from those market ?. If nothing like that occur, I will rather conclude that it is a coordinated pump

It is necessary to analyze the capitalization of any token. At the moment, I do not buy tokens that are not in the TOP-3 and where the capitalization is above $ 100 million.

Only the investors who are still novices will be carried away by such. First, there have been a lot of talks about the exchange. Personally, if I should see or read that a project is listed there, I will definitely not go close to it, because of my reservations about it.
This is where investors need to be careful, particularly when a coin is pumping, but not listed on a reputable exchange, the volume could be fake, but if you know you can risk it as an investor, then fine.

The underlying market has been manipulated for many years and it is certain that who holds the most Bitcoin will own this market. I think this is a game that you must have the knowledge to survive because the crypto market is very volatile and even a small mistake can make you lose money in a short time. Now I only trade Bitcoin for profit and limit my investment in altcoins.

There are no significant buy orders. It's all bot playing with each other. When one sets a high order , one pick it and if you check the transaction it will be a very very low quantity. That's how those exchanges work. If you set sell order they won't pick it, rather the ones set by fellow bot.

its a good choice, but in this topic i see many people agree that the trend doesnt indicate to invest right now. Ill do the same way with you

We can say it is a manipulation price if the price rising for short time, and falling back to normal or even lower.
The natural rising price should happening because natural growth of the coin value, not just because someone want to pump the price and dump it later.

In fact, small coins of little value are often manipulated very easily and always have to be careful because prices can drop very quickly if there is bad news. The crypto market usually follows the Bitcoin price, so if whales can manipulate the coin, all altcoins will follow suit. In addition, the analysis doesn't make sense when whales tend to sell more and often go against the crowd.

Do it if it can be profitable, because all of us are responsible for the work we do at all times, but if what I see at the moment is still very good for investing, because the market is in good condition, so take the opportunity before it's too late.

I'm afraid that indeed it is manipulation,we understand that mostly those newly  listed currencies (specially in Binance) have been Pumping highly but having +700+ increase?that is over value and for sure there is something happen that unusual .
so it means legit?or manipulated?i don't know if using Bot that huge is legit sorry.
OP is just curious and he is not looking for any chance of buying and also it has been done so nothing to be debated now.

it's very clear it's a bot, just look at buy orders that are only a few and how can have a very large volume, if that original trader would not do such a stupid thing

but its still so risky, do you prefer to invest if so many indicator doesnt right? i believe you want to save your money that time rather than invest

it's better to invest when prices are declining, and indicators also support, I think it will be a good investment, especially as the price of bitcoin is now still under $ 7,000, there is resistance to aim at at $ 8,000, maybe that could be the selling price

in my opinion it is not manipulation. Newly registered tokens will usually pump up briefly and then dump due to too many people selling them.

Firstly, if the volume increased drastically as well, then it's most likely real and not from bot manipulation. However, if the daily trading volume didn't correlate with the massive pump, then it's likely wash trading. I got lucky with a token CUR on same probit, which pumped about 300%, then followed by massive dump. I observed a lot of pump and dump actions on that exchange, but this doesn't mean the exchange is entirely bad. I pity those who will buy the top of such pump, because a dump must follow. Some days back, a friend bought SOL after it did 500% on Binance, thinking it will continue that way without setting SL, unfortunately it dipped badly after the pump. My advise is, if you don't enter a trade before a massive pump, just stay away from it, wait for a good entry and don't FOMO in.

you sure? could you send me your trend analysis? i believe this topic would not depend on bitcoin price. Like the others, i think its a "cukong" (indonesian accenct) way.

I am seeing this is manipulated, why? these exchanges probit,coinsbit,vindax are sh*t exchanges I have a very bad experience with those exchanges especially probit, so many bots it can dump or pump the coin/token. I am holding a token that is listed there it was dump 99%. If they can do it they can also pump a particular coin with fake trades. Be careful with those exchanges.

It’s normal, even Bitcoin which is the father of all cryptocurrencies can as well be manipulated, not to talk of small altcoins.
But in the case of this token, being listed on a shady exchange is already a red flag, unless you have this feeling that it is different, then you can continue.

If I’m the one, I would avoid tokens that are listed on an exchange that has a bad rating and known for promoting a scam token, because there is hardly going to be any difference this time. And those running the project, if they are legit and knows what they are doing, they wouldn’t be messing around with such an exchange , because they know such would bring a bad name to their business.

This is a common game in the altcoin market. There must be someone behind it. 700% increase in one day. This is by no means normal activity. The reports on the exchanges that pumped this token are not good, manipulation can be expected from them. When the volume of a coin / token is low and the marketcap is low, it becomes a whale game.

If we look at it carefully, it looks like a manipulation.  Because it is too weird if it increase too high.  It is normal situation to see the manipulation,  because people eager to do so much way for their own benefit.

What is the importance of manipulation or not? as long as we can attend the party? the bounty hunter who followed the campaign would be happy. Differences in demand and supply look reasonable, I think it's not fake, although it may be manipulated by some holders who have many tokens. It could be that the development team is really taking a strategic step, supported by a pump and dump so that it can rise very sharply.

Even so it looks vulnerable, don't be FOMO and hope that a similar history takes place in the same place. Pump and dump game, as many members explained above.

yes I totally agree that you say because the coin price movements in an exchange place a lot of manipulation because they want to make the exchange place look crowded and look to have high trading volume because that way can make traders and many investors to trade in the exchange place .

This will be something hard to do, most especially if the project team is the one selling. Such token will continue to dump until there is nothing meaning, left to sell to.
 A lot of projects have done this and they are still doing it. They can definitely manipulate prices, to attract investors and make them buy. It is very risky because they are disposing of off their tokens while taking investors' main coin. i.e, their token for your BTC.

Then, we shouldn't have to consider buying new coins instead, looking for old ones. This kind of scheme isn't new to us, they belong to the dump and pump groups that actually still exist in the crypto community. We can't expect them to stop their doings but we could think about being aggressive.

Yeah, it was really eye-catching to the investors when they saw a project that been in the hypes but it wonders why that they don't invest this project is that because they know of its ends and they can't be trick again.

true that price manipulation is usually to attract investors to buy the coin and trade there, I sometimes avoid manipulation like that because it is risky, usually I wait a few days to see the normal price

To be honest, we've seen lots of coins have more sudden price surge than this in the past and after much consideration it's either turn out to be real or manipulation. I can't deny the fact that this look a bit shady as the whole market is experiencing a down trend so seing a coin have such huge increase is questioning. By the way, if it was a manipulation, the price ought to have bounce back since such moves don't last but seeing the graph you posted, it is hard to arrive at a conclusion since much detail information didn't follow suit

Always check if the volume is real. Its not that hard to see a 700% reflection of increase but the trades are not filling thr gap of current sell orders. How to know this? Click Trade History and pay attention to the volume or quantity of the tokens sold and also check if the price set by seller has been skipped to execute. Exchange like these are the worse cause they fake the trading volume of any coins on their exchange just to mentioned that their IEO of that project pumps too.

After 7 days from the first pump, I think a lot of traders would agree this coin clearly shown some sign of manipulation, pump and dump scheme. The price going sideway even with trade history show orders filled. And with an unknow exchange like vindax, I won't trust or put any cent in this coin. Better yet, it isn't good to invest in coin that already hit +700% in 24h.

For this kind of project this situation can't be easily acceptable but we can't declare this is manipulate. After we overcome last bullrun, I found so many coin which are listed in average exchange but pump was huge even more good than top exchange. Average or low volume exchange listed coin literally down most of the time, better check daily volume.

One of the major problems for small traders today is market manipulation and this is one of the reasons why they make wrong decisions after analyzing the market from time to timeThis manipulation has become one of the major problems in this market and it is a big problem for a trader and that is why I think one should never trade when one gets the news of EidAt least one trader should never do

better we check it right now, if we know the market condition and answer all the argument, so this topic can locked by moderator and no one to post on it

After I checked, it turns out that today the events have started to differ from those on this topic, I also do not understand about this, and maybe you can conclude yourself about this.

1. https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/OKS-BTC

2. https://vindax.com/exchange-base.html?symbol=OKS_ETH

Probably a way to attract newbie traders and if they do bought on a higher price, they will regret it later on. Usually a new coin listed on an exchange experienced this kind of pump but later on if they have no real usage in the market, traders will have to leave that token for good and the price will dump hard. A price manipulation is normal nowadays, that's why we have to study the project and their real use in the market, if you didn't do you part, then you'll lose money.

That's right, crypto market price at this moment is normal for manipulations. Even Bitcoin has a whale to manipulate its price but I know they will get tired when the right times come. If you have been invested in the project make sure you have already spend more time doing research. Make it sure the team is not fake including their documents.

well this all often happens in some places of exchange that still do not have a good reputation they will try to make an impact by manipulating the conditions of cryptocurrency prices from fake trading volumes and so forth so that it can give effect to new traders.

thank you, its answer all argument on this topic. hope moderator lock this thread. problem solve, lets make a good new topic

a very easy factor for us to understand is trading volume, price manipulation will easily occur if the trading volume is small, but lately the price of Bitcoin also seems to be manipulated, as seen by the existence of Future or Leverage trading makes the market not know the exact direction, I'm unfortunate that

When I see a very long green candle, it's market manipulation and nothing else especially when there's no news, no development milestone achievement to support such candle. The end is always another long red candle in another time frame in the chart.

i think moderator should close this topic, no matter what. Cause its too far for discussion anymore, a lot of people only reply to finish their signature campaign :( so sad

I am dealing with cryptocurrency for more than three and half years and I would say that these sort of incidents are not isolated. They happen every now and then. When a particular token or altcoin is only traded in one or two smaller exchanges, it is easier for the promoters to initiate a pump. Once the prices are peaked, they will dump their coins and make their exit.

conditions that often occur in their exchange place the developers and even the popes try to play around with the condition of the price of coins at the exchange so that many coins go up and down suddenly, to be able to avoid that then you must be able to have a coin or token that has stability prices that are not easy to manipulate.

The key is the exchange site. Almost all of small exchange site doesn't have volume trade. That's why these small exchange sites to do a lot of manipulation to attract the demand but it's very sad to see the exchange site itself was playing to pump to the crap coin. The dump can't be considered as the main point but the gap between the orders should be the main point.

which sides are you? i dont know your idea sir, or you just post to provide signature campaign report?  :( poor you

Crypto market is so small, so if you believe that is not manipulated, then you are naive. Think about it, if you have a lot of Bitcoins, I mean really a lot of Bitcoins, would you  keep the trend on others and risk your lose?

Even he doesn't wear any signatures, he's obviously a spammer on this forum with meaningless comments. Hope someone can come over here and delete these nonsense comments to make the forum cleaner

If you see such growth it is a time to sell your whole portfolio because probably it is the last chance to get rid of useless tokens, in 99% cases all ERC-20 tokens are useless.  :D

No, just locked this thread so nobody will posting anything here. Hopefully we have merit system so the spammer cant rank up by post anything

First, i want OP to understand that some time the reason behind the surge in price of crypto market cant be visible or foresee  but the unexpected surge in price of the token in subject is totally manipulation despite the fact that token seems to have huge community support.

If the OP didnt lock the thread, the Mods know the right time to lock the thread but you guys need to understand that a meaningful post doesnt have to be long.

Yes, it can be manipulated by some big whales, they can able to become have a huge impact on the market by moving a huge fund but itis not give too much result. I f you believed in the demand and supply it is really hard for them to accumulate and play the market since it is very expensive. If every one of us holding our Bitcoin in our wallet the supply will down and for sure it makes the price higher in the market. So they play the demand and supply but they can't hold the line longer time.

Fortunately or unfortunately I was not part of this project. As price movement is the same on two different exchanges, for me it seems somewhat legit. But in today's world of pump and dump, this kind of trade is possible. Maybe this is one of the ways to attract more investors to the project?
My suggestion is you should hold for a few more months and then we can say anything sure about it.