Market Manipulation Or Not?

[Kezacky]

the probit and p2pb2b markets are notoriously bad, many projects listed there do not give good results, and trade volumes are fake. be careful when trading there and usually the new tokens generated from the ICO project will pump at the start and drop dramatically after disposal.

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[SirLancelot]

Normally some projects like these are usually being pumped and dumped by investors; market manipulation. It's up to you on what you want to do. Investing in these projects is not a must, if to you it is suspicious, then you should forget about it and look for another project.

I avoid these tokens nowadays, though there are few I have seen that happened to be really good and not a price manipulation, and before you know it, they are already at the top of the market. So before you invest in any project, it is good for you to do proper research on what you're investing on, that will give you the proper clue on where things are really heading to.

[mr.robot8]

the tokens of almost all the icos experience a drop in value when once the ico reaches the exchanges, in my opinion we have to wait a few months and follow the price changes before we can say whether that specific market is manipulated or not

[awakpane]

In my opinion, probit exchange has not been manipulated so far. even many who trade refer to probit. and if the price of a token rises sharply and a large volume in the market is indeed a reality if it occurs on a good exchange in reputation. not all markets are manipulations.

Probit basically does not have many investors involved so whales do not need to manipulate because there is very poor liquidity here. I don't think exchange can determine anything in this market and only Bitcoin can change the market if volatility occurs. Of course, everyone will have different thoughts when it comes to this problem, but probit is nothing in the crypto market.

It is true that probit does not have many investors, but as far as development so far, probit has not been included in the category of market manipulation. natural thing if someone has a different thought kana but must also refer to the reality that occurs in assuming something.

[qwizzie]

There is no cryptocurrency out there that is not subject to market manipulation.
As long as crypto usage is not mainstream adopted, market manipulation will keep driving this crypto space.

[jalxyx]

With that growth I guess there is manipulation but those exchanges has negative reviews so maybe it is. It is not good time to buy that price because they will dump it for sure.

you have so many experiences in trend i think, but maybe you can add some analytical trend to make sure your post is proved

[Ridwan Fauzi]

I'm not the user of both exchanges, so I can really sure that the movement price was real.

As have stated by @Reggajati the new coin/token is really vulnerable to be used as a pump and dump scheme.

Moreover, one of the exchanges ( vindax exchange ) has a bad reputation on this forum, you can see some accusations regarding to the exchange.

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214706.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173500.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228774.0

[Lantind]

the probit and p2pb2b markets are notoriously bad, many projects listed there do not give good results, and trade volumes are fake. be careful when trading there and usually the new tokens generated from the ICO project will pump at the start and drop dramatically after disposal.

Yes, and the thing that you said that I have seen in several cases in the new tokens in the two exchanges, only for the exchange of fake volumes is only a little if we compare it with P2PB2B exchanges which have very many fake volumes.

[BlackFor3st]

Recently I saw tokens generated from the bounty project 4 months ago and it was very unexpected that the price of the OKS $ 0.0239 token increased very sharply and volume in 24 hours (+ 718.94%).




Exchange:

1. https://www.probit.com/app/exchange/OKS-BTC


2. https://vindax.com/exchange-base.html?symbol=OKS_ETH


Is this real? or just manipulation of prices in the market?
which makes me a little doubtful, because the token is listed in the shade exchange!

but if this is really real, How lucky for you to have participated in the OKSchain gift project.

If we are talking about tokens especially the newly projects who increases their price in just a short period of time, you should be careful to it and make sure to not fall to this kind of tactics. If it is true, there is a big possibility that is a doing of group that pumps the price of a certain token and dumps it anytime they like as there are many groups like these.

There is also a little chance that the project owner is behind the scene or there is a little manipulation in the exchange. All of it are possible but if you have some OKS token then it is your chance to sell your holdings so you can get your profit already.

[zaim7413]

With that growth I guess there is manipulation but those exchanges has negative reviews so maybe it is. It is not good time to buy that price because they will dump it for sure.

you have so many experiences in trend i think, but maybe you can add some analytical trend to make sure your post is proved

Yes, whatever we say at this time will be better if there is evidence directly, but what I understand from shadowdio's review is that he is afraid of buying tokens at the current price because he remembers the disposal of tokens that will occur later on.

[Natalim]

Yes, whatever we say at this time will be better if there is evidence directly, but what I understand from shadowdio's review is that he is afraid of buying tokens at the current price because he remembers the disposal of tokens that will occur later on.

That's simple, just wait until the price get dump and buy it at its cheap price if you believe the price will eventually.
It's a strategy that has been working when I am investing in major coins in the market, I buy at dip and sell at peak, manipulation is happening we can't stop it, but knowing how people are doing it, this gives us an opportunity to enjoy this kind of situation.

[TastyChillySauce00]

just using simple logic such token that is not really well known being pumped out of sudden is just not right. Whether it's market manipulation or not I'd advise to stay away from such token not to mention that after big pump like this the coin price will usually fall down really deep. the fact that it's also listed in shady exchange is a dead give away. People really need to wakeup that buying such token with no real utility is kinda pointless.

[jhonjhon]

This issue isn't new to the market and this is pretty obvious that was run by pump and dump group. They are manipulating the price market to attract noobs and fall into their net. It is actually surprising and it is really eye-catching but due to market awareness, it helps to lessen the number of victims. And that is why is much important to do the research before investing or much safe if we invest those projects that are existed for many years.

[ElmedoRator]

This is not the first time I have seen a similar picture on Probit. The screenshot clearly shows that the coin has a rather small volume, only 2.5 BTC.
That is, someone with even 0.5 BTC could buy all sell orders thereby causing a price jump. In such cases, as a rule, a large gap is created between buy and sell orders.

You are right, this is only the virtual price of this token. There will be a big gap between buy and sell orders, and the price of this token will collapse quickly in the same way it has increased. Never invest in low volume altcoins because their prices can collapse anytime

[rat03gopoh]

I conclude based on my interpretation that is one way of market manipulation. The team deliberately placed market prices with their "standard" even though they had to sweep orders below (by buying them). Then the trading bot is installed as if it has a stable trading volume and circulation. That is the old way.

[xandriel]

This issue isn't new to the market and this is pretty obvious that was run by pump and dump group. They are manipulating the price market to attract noobs and fall into their net. It is actually surprising and it is really eye-catching but due to market awareness, it helps to lessen the number of victims. And that is why is much important to do the research before investing or much safe if we invest those projects that are existed for many years.

The crypto market is very easy to manipulate and is currently completely controlled by whales so in investing you need to have a reasonable investment strategy to avoid unnecessary risks. I think investors are the ones who are most likely to lose money from the market at any given moment because one mistake can cause them to lose more than half their assets. Personally, I only invest in the bear market and will sell all when the target is reached.

[Retainly_Collie]

Look at the buy order, it's all fake. Even the distance between buy and sell orders is too far apart. I saw it about 100 times apart and even more so. Obviously they are using a few BTC to make the price rise and deceive investors, if anyone buys them then I believe they will lose many times if they want to sell them later.

[Cryptoheavy]

In crypto price manipulations are happening every day, this is just another one

[kindbtc]

Definitely pump and dumps are a kind of manipulation where the team or the big investors purchases most of, if not all, the buy orders resulting in yhe pump and encouraging others to buy as well for quick profits and when people fomo in the peak forms the investors sells his inventory there causing dump and the only person in profit is the investor/manipulator in the end.

[Finestream]

Definitely pump and dumps are a kind of manipulation where the team or the big investors purchases most of, if not all, the buy orders resulting in yhe pump and encouraging others to buy as well for quick profits and when people fomo in the peak forms the investors sells his inventory there causing dump and the only person in profit is the investor/manipulator in the end.

Therefore we need to be careful with trading on coins with small market, we have to ensure that we are the one who will be profitable and will not end up a bag holder. I pity the newbie who will fall for this pump and dump scheme, but we can't prevent this from happening as it has become the norms in the market.