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I've been around the crypto scene since pre 2013 pump. Been around blackcoin pumps, pinkcoin pumps (all the color coin pumps), all the country-coin pumps (remember those?), every shitcoin known to man.

I even knew about ethereum (commented on page 4 or 5 on their announcement thread) and was a huge believer in the project. .....but instead of sending btc to their ICO site on a summer day in 2014, I sent it to nitrogen sports with the intention of making more btc to send to their ICO.

Throughout the years, I've done similar things with various alts: Monero, dark-coin (DASH), Cardano, you name it. I had them with hopes of holding onto them to watch their value grow...but couldn't...and gambled it away with 3AM challenger tennis, random soccer matches, or baseball over/unders (though, when I go on a binge, I actually start off pretty damn well, but get tilted the moment I lose a few times).


I'm a big believer in the crypto space but it's difficult for me to hold coins without gambling. The thing is, I have no issue controlling myself when I don't hold crypto. I could go to a casino or wherever and not have any urge to bet with fiat. Idk what it is about cryptocurrency. I just get so into certain coins that I want to make more so that I can get a bigger stack to hodl...but then by trying to get more the quick way, I lose it all.


Anyone feel similar?

How do you combat the urge to gamble with your cryptocurrency?

Your problem is self-controlling, you should controlling yourself, not be greedy and separate your crypto. I usually separating my crypto 20% for gambling and 80% for investing. If I lost all my crypto in gambling, at least I still have 80% to hold. Only gamble what you can afford to lose.

That is really up to you man, you are in control of what you do so you need to have the discipline and focus on your goal.

So your question is on how to invest without gambling, it's very simple, just be a long term investor so you don't need to monitor all the time and that would take you away from the temptation of gambling.

What coin I can suggest?? I suggest go with the best coin in the market, it's bitcoin, even if you don't pay attention to this coin, I believe this will rise in value as it's the king of the market now, everything depends on the future of bitcoin.

Hold it in a secure wallet, and there you go.

Trading in of itself is a form of gamble imo, but it's more similar to an educated guess and not something fully reliant on luck. So really, no matter the option of whether to trade or to gamble, you'd still be losing money one way or another. The best way to be invested in Crypto is just to be there for the knowledge, be part of the community. Stop looking at crypto as an asset, as a form of currency. Look at it as something similar to a lesson or something. It really depends on how you live out your life in the time you're investing in while being part of the crypto community.

This is more of a self-control problem just like what the one above me said. It's different from one person to another tbh. If you want, you can try setting a goal. One that uses cryptocurrencies as a form of payment. What I've been doing and so far have been pretty much avoiding any major losses in my life.

Hm, yeah, the last two posts are good advice.  I think it would definitely be easier if I didn't follow the whole crypto space as much. Maybe that can be a goal. Limit the amont of times I check the price or forums or whatnot.

Telling myself that it's an easy way to win big while gambling but the opposite of it is the one I can't fathom if really those coins are meant for investment for a longer time. Sad to hear your story but I guess that will be an eye-opener on you for many years passed now. Has there changes in your recent behavior?

don't be too obsessed with it... diversify not only your assets but your interests also... start a new hobby for example

I've somehow experienced that, especially that over/under betting which is really, in hindsight, nothing more than a dice game.

Gambling is one of the quickest ways to lose money. That is why I always make sure that my online crypto gambling accounts have a low balance because once I am already absorbed into placing bets, it would be as if 0.1 ETH is as low as a dollar. It is easy to squander money if it is denominated in ETH or LTC or DOGE. At least with a low balance, you will be prompted that your bet is not possible anymore because your balance is not enough. It is also very effective once that irrational urge to recover your loss as quickly as possible comes in.

Plus, always make sure your main crypto investment is separated in a different wallet which is not as accessible as your dispensable cryptos.

I've had some good years and some bad years since 2013. Most recently relapsed last fall though.

Thinking about picking up some coins lately, but I gotta figure out a way to not become so consumed by the whole scene. It's addictive in general.

Very true, man, very true. It's like, shit what's .1 btc? That like 50 bucks? Oh wait, this isn't the mid 2010s anymore, that's almost a grand. I think that's why I have zero issues with gambling fiat. Cus then I would really see $1,000 slipping away in an instant and i would stop.

actually we have almost the same style mate,whenever i am in mood to gamble i usually make at least part of my crypto income weekly(since i am part of signature campaign so it is easy for me to allocate gambling money)

i make sure to set aside the 70% and just to gamble the 30% and after losing i will surely stop because i have a manageable attitude in terms of gambling.

in this way i know that i am safer in any cases that what OP is being problematic now,and right it is the GREED that will always make us fall.

Quick suggestion, why don't you invest your money to those gambling sites instead? Like for example, putting your crypto to Yolodice (https://yolodice.com/#invest) or Bustadice (https://bustadice.com/invest) and let it grow passively. Just be sure that you know the risks that you are getting when doing business with them. You can take a loot at this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239794.0) where someone invested BTC on two sites and he publicly provided the records of his profit/losses on a weekly basis. Good stuff, if I'm gonna be honest.  ;)

Actually you can relate in this topic mate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233200.0

when OP is comparing trading in gambling in which instead of gambling why not risk your money in trading/
but of course this is depend on your desire because maybe you love Gambling more than any profiteering here thats why you encountered this problem.

i think Cryptogames.net is offering investments also?

Gambling is never a good thing if u want a safer investment and source of profits, instead focus on crypto management and it will give you more effective transactions and profits. Investing in gambling will just make you lose your money because it is much risky compared to investing in cryptocurrency.

I know a lot of people who are losing huge amount of money in gambling and become stressed about their life. Gambling will just only give you stress and disappointments because the probability of losing is much higher compared to the probability of winning. You need luck in order for you to win in gambling.

While in investment, you will just need to read and observe how the market moves so that you know what to do in order to properly manipulate your crypto assets. It is not necessary for you to risk your money in gambling, If I were you, i will not engage in gambling no matter what.

As of now Cryptogames has stopped offering investments to users. Currently yolodice is taking in BTC, LTC and Doge investment without any dilution fee which would soon change. They are also still to open ETH for investment. Bustabit is the largest user invested casino followed by bustadice. Justdice also offers investment on its supported currency, clam.

And not to forget bitvest. It allows an investment with BTC, ETH, LTC, BCH and Doge with 0.5 to x10 margin. The only investment option that lets you inflate your risk for reward.

Perhaps, you need a financial advisor or someone who is an expert on controlling themselves and making decisions. A wife I can say, they know what's best for us and they know when to stop us from gambling so we better build trust and not worry about losing too much in gambling if we invested first in good relationship. This relationship will be our counter to being addicted and losing too much. So if you can't control yourself, avoiding gambling is not always the option.

I used to do the same up to a certain point and then stopped.I started to think calmly and deeply of what I was doing and came to the conclusion you can’t make more money with gambling in 99.99% of the cases.

I decided to set aside a small monthly bankroll to gamble with and the other amount to keep in a wallet.Dreams of one day that bitcoin will reach 100.000 dollars can keep you from not gambling at all.I only missed this April where I played slots heavily but have again stopped now.In the end it depends only on you and no one else.If you truly want something you fight to get it.

you dont have a crypto so its normal that you will play fiat on a non crypto based casino  if ever its one of your hobby too  but you can still use that fiat money to buy crypto and repeat the same mistake again   . i bet your just greedy and that leads you to have a lack of patience    .  that experience was horrible upon reading it even not experiencing it  because the money that is supposed to be intented for hodling are being used for gambling  . it will be okay if you win but greed might take place again on you and you will just redepo it

It's because of our desire. Maybe it's because you have seen a lot of crypto holders that also gamble so it attracts you as well to try gambling. And it only takes time before you will realize that you are having fun gambling and you want to keep on gambling. Perhaps that's the reason why you can't avoid gambling now. It's because you were used to it already.

I also think our mindset really affects us. If we keep on thinking that we can't stop gambling, then it will only make it harder for us to limit ourselves. We really need to control ourselves, especially in gambling. I also gamble online, and that's where I only gamble. I don't go to physical casinos but I can still control myself maybe because I always think of my priority why I am investing here in crypto. You can find other things to do to prevent yourself from gambling too much, or just seek advice on expert.

Thank you for sharing that story. I always long to read stories like this so that I can learn from your experiences. You are struggling whenever you hold crypto but not with fiat. I think what you need to do is to take a deep sigh first of realization. And then, practice to minimize your crypto gambling activity.

Not stopping but somehow controlling it if you're gambling with crypto. Set aside the feeling whenever you hold it and also keep a certain amount that you will never engage in gambling because the agenda of keeping it is for investment purposes.

The control issue is with crypto but with fiat, he can handle himself. That's hard to imagine that you can somehow control the other way and can't the other side.

Agreed, this way you can teach yourself a discipline on how to at least control your urge to gamble when you have crypto at your disposal.

There is a similar thread whereas you can check all the investment thread in most of the gambling website.
List of Gambling Investments and Discussion. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5238582.0)

Take care of yourself mate! Seek a professional help as soon as possible if something gets worse.
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-body/gambling-addiction/

Actually, it always depends on the person understanding and the urgeness what they always do even if they are used to it. Gambling is so addicting that we all put in a situation where we can't stop playing. It also affects our everyday life and our health as well. Gambling do gave us a good profit and a bad losses but it always takes time to realize all. If you want to stop really even if you always playing and the true realizations come to you, it can be done always and anytime. Gambling isn't the issue in peoples lives, it's the greediness and the attitude we posses.

And if you wqnt to choose to invest in other ways, that's good because you can always do it and that's a good step to start to get awqy from the situation you get used to it. Investment also give us a good income and less losses if we learn it. It always takes time but be manage to be patient on it.

Sorry but I don't think that this is a good piece of advice for someone like the OP. OP is clearly addictive when it comes to crypto gambling because of the feeling that not much money is being spent when he sees 0.1BTC rather than 900$. If OP invests in a gambling website, he'll be having ready access to the fund invested in the gambling website and might give in to his temptation to gamble away the money.

I think the OP should keep the major portion of his funds far away from his reach and only keep a small portion of the funds for gambling and other purposes. That's the only way I see to combat the urge to gamble with crypto.

If you're this addicted to gambling then try to consider your investing in cryptocurrency project as a gamble maybe that'll help. It seems the urge to gamble is what's making you miss the great opportunity you have stated above, if you gamble on the ethereum ICO succeeding maybe today you would had been among the millionaire we have in the industry.

How about splitting your funds into 50/50 the first half you invest in Cryptocurrency buy any desired currency and HODL it into your wallet or ledger and the other half you bet in gambling and casino's. But ultimately for this to work is you to set limits of bets like betting with small amounts so you wont lose it quick and to learn to strategize and win the game. But if you're unfortunate and loss then you shouldn't touch the first invested funds.

50/50 is a big money man! I suggest that first allocate your funds or monthly earnings into bills and to all of your needs and after that, if there's money that is available after allocating your funds and then, that is going to be your funds for gambling. Discipline is a must!!! If you don't want to be broke or you don't want to suffer for huge amount of loan, you need to discipline yourself.

Allocating your funds is the best way to invest and gamble, or rather invest and stay away from gambling.

Instead of holding (as an alternative to gambling) you can try active trading

Most likely you are gambling because you can't look at your coins sitting idly. Trading is, of course, a longer road to success but if you are impatient, it may be the way to go, or at least to try it out. Once you get the feel and hang of it, you can put your coins to work in a way that you yourself consider meaningful (that's a must for a workable strategy). In that case, you will no longer feel the urge to gamble. In other words, you should first figure out why you act like this and then, with that knowledge in mind, consciously and purposely change your ways and behaviors

I've also invested some coins in blackcoin and other pumped altcoins back in 2014-2016, but never really paid too much attention to gambling and instead just saw it as some leisurely activity to spend some of my spare dollars to. $20-$30 a session, which usually falls on a weekend isn't big of a deal to me back then while my investments range from a hundred to a couple hundreds and returns me quite a good sum. I know telling people to "not think about gambling" isn't going to cut it as a really fruitful advice but sometimes, it's those simple ones that actually work. I know that the urge comes from you thinking that your coins are just sitting and not doing any work for you but it's better than to lose it to a single gambling session and feel regret about it later on.

Before you invest your money, you should have a plan on how you fill your daily needs and pay your bills because that is what you need to do monthly. If you still have another money, then you can use the investment to grow your money so you can make another profit. And if the investment can give you additional income, then that is good, so you can continue to invest with the other gambling site. But remember that you don't have to use big money to invest in the gambling site because investing in gambling will have the risk.

If you are passionate gambler it might be very hard to stay away from gambling.
But if you want something else that is exciting and you can make profit with, you can try with trading. Just have in mind that it could be more risky than gambling and you need to go through education process to understand the crypto market and how it's functioning.
Some compare gambling and.trading saying this is equal and claiming if you are successful in one of these you will also be successful in other. But that is not true and be sure you get pros and cons of both to decide what is best for you.
As long as gambling is fun for you, stick to it.

I've been there a few times, started with a small deposit then once I started winning several times controlling myself became more difficult and my sleep schedule is all over the place because i'd watch most of the games i'm betting on(nba,tennis,rugby,cricket,etc). One of my solutions to avoid these mistakes is to find another activity and make yourself busy so you won't have time to make a bet then eventually you'll start to forget about gambling.

Nah, not gonna work out

OP has most certainly already tried something to that tune before. The root cause of the problem here lies in an erroneous short-term prioritization (in an obvious conflict with longer-term goals), and unless he deals with his priorities first in a productive and constructive way, these measures are not going to cut it. He will likely find a thousand (or more) excuses to gamble away the remaining half of his funds anyway. As I see it, the only long-term solution in this case is to change his attitude in such a way that gambling no longer remains a preferred choice. And that means looking and going for a more appealing and attractive use of his stash of coins other than gambling

There are huge differences between investing and gambling, so someone who has really invested can never gamble with that capital. Not using that money to gamble, and not changing your investment decision to gambling is entirely up to one's own will. For this reason, I think that the real investor who has invested in crypto money can dominate his own wishes and does not use his investment in gambling. If there is someone who uses it, the purpose of that person is not to invest, but to gamble.

Gambling isn't the only way to accumulate coins, traders had been accumulating for years without gambling and they may lose their coins at least they gain knowledge to what they did before and apply they learned later.


Easier said than done. Hard to fight it when you already have the urge. When the monkey on your back starts scratching the habits may not die until you find comfort in doing something else.

This is actually a problem of self-control.Its really a regretting thing if you think back that you had invested to those projects into their earlier years or time and see them that they're flying with colors at the moment.
We cant really avoid to think back that if we able to hold it out after all these years then we surely have much more bigger profit but you do let yourself being controlled by gambling or shall we say that you are a gambling addict. Staying away? Set your mind not to play and follow strong self discipline, this wont be an easy one..If you do just really concern on making profits by means of investment then you will
somewhat avoid to spend out your cryptos for gambling.This do really depend on how sensible or serious you are.

I could not agree more. With the market fluctuation that we have been seeing for a couple of months now it is really better to trade than to hold to make a short profit. What these short trades can do huge is when you are doing marginal trading, futures trading with bitcoin since that coin is the most volatile one. On futures trading you could earn higher as what you have capitalized, contains more risk than a typical trading but think the reward you can get, you just have to analyze it correctly, what could happen in 15 minutes can get your capital double. Rather than gambling for a day and win $10.

Reading your story, you look like a person that wants a one-time big-time profit in one push.

You have lots of funds on-hand but still decided to risks it all with only relying in the future of those coins or doing gambling.

If you have time and since you are fine to take risks, why not take being risky on a higher level which is playing with the market trading. It might take time to learn but at least it you are not just relying on gambling returns.

There are two options if you are a gambler who can't keep your money like that for a long time. One is investing with it to somewhere, there are plenty of places that accept investment, mainly casinos, that way you will be keeping your money to gambling but also you won't be the one gambling, you would be the one who makes others gamble and lose.

Or there are places that give you interest as well, the most trusted one I know is freebitco.in where they give you 4%. You could also work with a coin that has proof of stake, or masternode, that way you could make money by keeping it and not diluting it.

Wow, it has been so long. You must know how exactly BTC and crypto is. Personally, I know about crypto was in 2017, almost at the end of the year. I wis I was you to know crypto earlier. But, I do not need to reglet  ;D ;D

There may be some points to have:
1. Self-control
It may be very difficult to control ourself, our emotional, and also our thought in the crypto world. Moreover, there is so many disturbance that can attract ourself and make us lost control. here, controlling ourselves is willing to sell, buy, invest, trade or a gamble is important. We may not be greedy, but we may also not be too afraid to take the risk. As long as we have known the ways to control our money, our asset of crypto, and also ourself, we may have better consideration, thinking, and also emotion (including "panic" as the worst thing that I ever had in the past).

2. Risk management
This is also very crucial to have in the crypto world, risk management. It may include in positioning the size (enter amount and also risk amount), Ratio of Risk or Reward, Stop Loss and Take Profit, Diversification (how many to hold, sell, buy), and include the personal attitude of the risks.

3. Chance taking moment
This is based on how we should take the chance at the right moment. It may be difficult. But it may relate to our strategy, thought, and also our best consideration to take the chance even in the limited moment.

Personally, I still make money from crypto by joining the signature campaign with the BTC payment rate and also doing small trading. Of course, loss and profits have become so usual for me. But, as long as we can manage it, I don't mind it too much. I'm not a big fan of gambling, so I only playing gambling when I really want to. But, it doesn't make me spend much money. Only certain coins on the online casino platforms that I sometimes follow.

Source:
https://coininsider.com/risk-management-in-crypto-trading/
https://news.bitcoin.com/the-importance-of-risk-management-and-psychology-when-trading-crypto/

It should be a tough decision to manage your funds without any breaches of wasting huge quantities. Using enough amount just to satisfy your desires with gambling, that could be for fun within our control. Virtual money will be gone without noticing it, so you should act wisely before everything is too late.

Your username is "thepatient", but it differs greatly from the reality that you have been through regarding investing in crypto.
Your biggest mistake is don't have patience and can't control your greed. According to the story you wrote in the opening post,
it was very clear you want instant profit. The key to the success of investing in cryptocurrency is patience, if you want maximum
results just holding cryptocurrency that you have at least 5 years. And don't use all cryptocurrency you have for gambling, just
use 10% for gambling. Please try the advice I gave, I'm sure you can succeed.

Thanks for saying that. And yup. Luckily I've escaped without hurting myself too bad financially, I've "only" ever lost out on potentially millions in profit, but never destroyed my non-crypto financial life.


Thanks for the link


The sleep-schedule comments hits home hard. I would watch every bet as well.



Well put.


In response to this (and other similar comments), I agree it's a potentially valid way to hold off the urge to gamble. There is a learning curve to it, though, and I would need to really dive into understanding it all. But yes, it can be done. I haven't ever fully tried committing to this route.

….thanks for the replies. Some great points and comfort in knowing theres similar people out there. It actually makes me think maybe I should engage with gamblers anonymous or something like that.

Correct, it's hard to realized that you already losses everything before you acknowledge your mistakes. Allocating funds and make sure that it will be store or used properly, there's portion for entertainment and portions for good investment. Take higher part for investment that's a wise decision to make,  keep your entertainment with balance allocated money..

You should know how to control yourself,

What I mean by that is, you should know your own reason why you invested. Don't let your greediness to overcome your own reason or the goal that you want to achieve on that investment. It may be hard at first, but realization is one of the best way to help yourself.

I don't and that's because I intentionally decided not to get distracted by gambling although not trying to say it's bad as I do gamble on few occasion (controllably). Whatever the case may by, I still find a way to remind myself of the reason I got into the industry and the goals I intend achieving. The only distractions I haven't been able to combat is the urge to invest my coins in altcoins probably because most of them I did were profitable especially my early investment so mind although I'm beginning to experience so losses as my timing aren't always favoring me but hopefully I'll work on that.

OP, you just have to get yourself together, probably allocate some fund just for your gambling amusement an top up that wallet regularly that's to say, have a separate account for your investment and that for your pleasure. It'll go a long way in you having control.

It is easier said than done, self-control, and discipline. You have watched most of the coin in the market cap since their day one and missed a great opportunity investing in them, and chose to gamble instead. Take it as a lesson and let this be a motivation for you to practice self-control. I value my investment in crypto more than my fiat money, this is where I secure most of my savings. That is why I can fight my urge to gamble online.

I don't fight that feeling, because if you fight it, you will just become eager to gamble. If you can't fight it, control it. What I do is, I allocate a different amount of money to use in gambling. This way, I can satisfy myself in gambling while I can save my investment. In your case, You just don't know what you will prioritize, but as I said, you control it, and you can do both for sure.

It's not a bad thing to gamble with crypto.
But too much is always bad.
Keep a crypto converting website on on your side and input the amount you will bet on a game every time.
It will give you a better sense of the value it translates in real currency.

You sound like you are intensively looking for more opportunities to multiply your cryptos. The scenarios that you have mentioned happens to everyone when they are having some money and looking for some opportunities. Basically, you must need two things to focus on:
1. Gambling cannot multiply the number of cryptos that you are having.
2. If you're a true believer in to cryptocurrencies then you should focus only on highly reputed coins like bitcoin and you must love it and should not think about spending it in near future.

After coming across this topic, I just wonder why I am somehow managing NOT spending my bitcoins in gambling/trading, because I am loving my bitcoin stash and I am highly hesitating to spend them.

That is the only way that we need to do before we get deeper into gambling. When it comes to investment, we need to learn about the investment side so we can choose what will a good investment that we can select. There is nothing that we can do except to try to control ourselves, prevent greediness so we can achieve the goal. I am sure that it is not hard if we want to learn about controlling ourselves.

I never had those kind of problem when it comes to gambling I could control myself.
I think there are plenty of ways to stay away from gambling but it would depend on yourself on how you would do it of course you could always ask your family and friends for help,
Just make sure that all of the effort wouldn't be wasted.

Maybe he is a patient in a psychiatric ward

Just kidding, so no offence to be taken. Whatever his case might be, it is definitely not his, or anyone else's, for that matter, mistake or fault for lacking required patience or being greedy beyond limits. We are all greedy and impatient in specific circumstances and under certain conditions, and that's totally fine if you ask me. However, if this is not what you really want and strive for, which is evidently the case here, attacking or confronting the problem head on (like practicing more self-discipline) will ultimately turn out an exercise in futility since all it takes is just one relapse, and then you are instantly back to square one. How such issues should be dealt with, I described earlier in the thread

I guess I am just lucky that I don't have a lot of cryptocurrencies to gamble with. Gambling is nice, it is really fun. I enjoy gambling a lot but then for someone like me who don't have much money, gambling will just take the backseat. Needs first before gambling. If there is nothing left after spending for the needs, no problem. Gambling can always wait.

Still boils down on your self control. I mean that mentally, it's really hard to see some crypto in your wallet and the urge to deposit in some gambling sites and play and bet on your favourite sports with good odds, play dice or slots machine. However, if you have the discipline and look at the bigger picture that your crypto will multiple overtime, then probably that itch will probably subside and you will have control of your greed, just saying.

yes you can earn and withdraw but that is if you are lucky but what if not  ? no chance that you can win even at once  .

 you could have earn safely in the form of hodling alone  only if you have the patience to wait  .  my only advice is to stop opening your wallets more often so that you will not get tempted , also divert your selves away from thinking too much on your free time because chances are you will think of gambling your money in hopes of doubling it fast  .

There are a lot of things you can do and divert your attention to lessen your urge to gambling. You probably try to set your mind on how much you can use before starting the game that will not hurt you much when you lose. Setting your mind on when to stop gambling before playing will be the best tool for you will always find a way to hold back every time your emotions begin to hook you on each game. Think always the possible consequences either bad or good as long as the more you engage in gambling the more you will become an addict.

The root of these problems is just because you didn't control your self and your emotions.

Do not overestimate the will power

The sad truth is, it doesn't boil down to self-control or self-discipline. It can help you from doing something bad once or twice, but if your urge is lasting and strong enough at that, sooner or later you will give in. Moreover, not giving in while failing to deal with your inner demons effectively to get rid of them altogether (if you need to) can be as damaging, if not more. When you have to resist a very strong desire and that goes on for long enough, it may drive you mad and you may in fact end up in a psychiatric ward with a psychosis or something much worse

Well you said it "patient". 

He's not the only one who battles with such urge and its hard to resist when you have the money to spend like this patient.

Most people will always find a way to spend their money whether its for their collections or for their addiction. Thepatient just happen to find gambling a better option. Find a nagger wife, maybe that will help.   ;D

Any wife would do, for that matter

Let me guess, our "patient" is not married (or un-married). Regardless, it will be an obvious conflict of interest, and would only make the matters worse, not better, and his life unbearable all in all. In other words, you can't solve one problem by substituting it with another as you will only be multiplying your problems (read, simple math, just like most simple ways, is not going to work here)

How to combat these things?

It doesnt really need since you can do both things.It is just a matter of fund management.If you do tend to invest then you shouldnt touch those funds no matter what and since you allocate
budget for gambling then dont go beyond that and if that urge call to gamble is there then better to find another alternative or you shouldnt continue at all.
Learn to control yourself because if you dont then consequences would really be next in line.

Investment is investment and if you do really mind on making profits then you should lets your gambling activity would mixed out.

Maybe you're reading it the wrong way. He could be a doctor's patient, without any connection to patience. ;)

I'm a kind of slow earner than riski it all person. I feel the need to gamble at times but I just take a bit of mu earinngs and play with it. It's never more than 20% of my weekly profits that I risk so it's not a big hit if I lose and just a bit of fun and additional money for small expenses if I win.

People are really fan of finding up even on the slightest issue like usersnames,typo etc. This doesnt connect the true personality of the user itself. Dont know whats up to their minds.

Everything should really be on moderation and also not all people do have capacity when it comes on how much money they can earn/spent on various things that why people do end up
on situations like this where unwise spending of their money by means of gambling.

As other said earlier where theres should be separation between investment and gambling.So that everything wont mess up if somethings goes wrong into the other side.

control your desires, that's it...
When you begin to intend to invest in crypto, your desire to multiply it in a short time will definitely arise and only gambling that comes to your mind is the easiest way to duplicate it, you must be able to control yourself, don't get stuck and stay focused on your goals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDrhI1GUnNg

Wow, using only with that statement gives me a chill.

I can't even explain what would be the feeling if I'll be in your shoe. As long as you can balance yourself and won't let it destroy yourself wholly and keep on standing still, that only means that you are strong in that aspect.

Well, best of luck mate.

Sometimes, when people invest in something, they have goals that they want to achieve. But as time goes by, they see their investment value become bigger and the time to close their investment comes, but they don't close it right away because they want to make more profit than what they have now. That makes them cannot see what is in their face because they become greedy to get more and more. They lose their control because greed, they lose their goals to achieve, and they lose their investment profit.

If you want to invest in crypto, you need to know which coin you want to buy and invest, so you don't pick the wrong coin. Research the coin is a must thing before you buy the coin because that can help you to determine the right coin.

This is a literal meaning, one of (read, maybe it is you, not them). Anyway, I don't think they mean ill here (I don't)


That's definitely not it

When you think you can or do actually control your desires, that's most certainly an instance of self-deception. How come? Because it is your desires that are controlling you most of the time. Indeed, you can do something against what you want deep down inside, deliberately and consciously, but you will feel pretty ugly like doing something which is against your nature even if what you did or did not was the right thing to do or not to do. The takeaway is that fighting your inner demons in the open is a losing battle as you simply can't win

You have no issue of controlling yourself and yet you created a thread like this?? You said that you can control yourself but you can't hold coins without using it in gambling??

For me, you are lacking of self control. I can say to myself that I don't have self control if I'm holding coins but I'm using it on gambling. Your experience is quite unusual though for me. I think the best thing to do is to change your way of thinking about crypto and gambling. Getting crypto in a quick way will definitely lead you to gambling since it is the quickest way. Change your thinking on how to get more crypto. Its just your mindset that is the problem. Your way of thinking about crypto must be changed so that even though you have huge amount of crypto coins, you will not be urged to gamble it all.

Did I say I could control myself in general or did I qualify that statement with more info?  ::)

Am I not misreading this topic.


Honestly, I can't separate investment and gambling, instead I get a portion of the profits I get from gambling to invest in leading cryptos.
For now gambling and investing is still one thing that is required for me "gambling vs investing".

There are other things that are more interesting to me, experience, I've used two things.
-I have also used investment returns to gamble.
-And gambling results I have also used for investment.
So those two elements have something to do with me. Other people I don't know how he uses both.

Your problem is in fact very common, casinos have known for a very long time that people have problems gambling away their money this is why you need to convert your money to chips in the casino, even if you are still holding the very same amount of money the fact that you are now holding casino chips makes you way more likely to gamble a lot more than what you should, so it seems to me that your problem is that you do not really see cryptocurrencies in the same way that you see your fiat and that is why you keep gambling it away, in my opinion you should always think of the value in fiat of your crypto holdings so this does not happen to you again.

The fiat value of chips ≠ Cash value. The volatile crypto market and the untrustworthy fundamentals of gambling finance make it hard to stake or hold the casino balance online, I prefer to split my holdings and the casino altcoins should remain less than 10% of altcoin portfolio. Spending less or more or gambling the rest of funds can be linked to unstable psychological issues, no need to blame the decentralized gambling industry, IMHO.

I agree in some comments that your problem is because you are failing in self-control and the disorderly way of how you handle your earnings. While gambling it is necessary to know when it is time to stop so as not to lose your capital. Luck and strategy go hand in hand with gambling, bet with caution.

When we lost control over our mind, we will not think clear of what is going on in around us, and we tend to act spontaneity without thinking much. And in gambling, when you lose control, you will be anger, you want to recover the money that you lost with playing more and more. Without we know how much the money that we would use in gambling, we will get the big losses and that is a matter of time that will come to us. Yes, we need to be careful when we gamble because that is the only way that we must know, so there is no bad thing that will happen to us.

Sometimes your desire to get more coins are the reason why you lost most or worse all of them.

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Greediness and desire. 2 words but it can change everything especially when you are holding huge amounts of crypto coins. You can invest in crypto and not to gamble as long as you don't have these 2 words. These are just 2 words but it can make your life miserable. Worse is that most of the gamblers are using their coins that they are holding into gambling and if they lost they will regret. Change your mindset and invest into crypto "ONLY". Invest only and don't gamble at all

If you want to avoid gambling altogether then heed my advice about dopamine detox. I like that you are investing for yourself but it is frustrating that you spend it on gambling, now I do not want you to ditch gambling altogether because trying to avoid something altogether then it will come back and bite you, the withdrawal stage is where the most struggle happen and I want you to avoid that because it can be avoided.

Now for my advice in dopamine detox, the first step is to understand that everything that gives exciting feeling is responsible for dopamine being released in the brain, addiction happens when our brain reaches a cap continously that when we are doing something mundane, we tend to feel that we need to do something. With the continous cap reach of dopamine, our body adapts and becomes bigger and we are tricked by our brain to do more of the fun things (i.e. Gambling, sex, video games, drugs), and in turn we become a prisoner of our own desire and vices.

To do dopamine detox, you need to have a self-control and a strong support network altogether, without support network, this will be difficult. The first you have to do is do your usual routine including the gambling, and dedicate a time where you are doing nothing exciting, do mundane things, then gradually increase the days that you do these things until you can do a week, this helps in flushing the dopamine in your body. These will build habit and in turn make you naturally avoid gambling. Other thing that you can do is do something that can replace the gambling habit, swtch a workout routine to the time that you are gambling. You have the investments already, having a good life is not too far for you. Good luck

I feel it too sometimes but I can still control myself. It always felt different with crypto because you know the price of it may be bigger in the next month or years. You feel the greediness to get more to have more in the future. You invest in crypto but will always be tempted to try those coins in gambling instead of holding it for a very long time, you think that you should try your luck using it instead of letting it sit in your wallet, maybe it will double.

If you always lose an investment because of that, I think you should always think of your priority in investing. Try asking for help too. That trait is a symptom of gambling addiction. You may say that it is in crypto only but you should remember that crypto is a currency just like a fiat currency.

It is your money and whatever you do it is your decision. I have never had a chance of getting into big ICO's like Ethereum. If I had the opportunity I wouldn't have missed this opportunity. So the choice depends solely on you what you want to do with your money.

That would be easy to be resolved. It will be just about your self-control and setting your goal with regards to the usage of your cryptocurrencies in your life. Once you have already know your goal and have set the usage of your cryptocurrencies, then it would be easy for you to invest in cryptocurrency while staying away from gambling. Playing and engaging into gambling is a matter of choice. There is nothing wrong in playing gambling as long as you know your limitations and know how to handle your cryptocurrencies. If you are having problem holding your cryptocurrencies because you are being tempted to always play in gambling using your cryptocurrencies, then why not look for something you think is worthy to spend your cryptocurrencies with. It is like diverting your attention into something to somehow forget the other thing that you have a hard time managing about. Only you can totally help yourself with that problem. Again, there is nothing wrong on playing gambling using crypto as long as you know your limitations.

It was different times in late 2013/early 2014. While I was certainly a believer in the project, there were MANY people who viewed Ethereum's ICO (which remember, was still a very new thing) as a scam. Many people who knew about it, missed out.

Staying away from gambling is one of the hardest thing to do for those who use to play gambling everyday. You cannot stop gambling instantly because you brain may be damaged due to stress. The best thing that you need to have to stay away from gambling is self control. You need to decrease the budget you use in gambling slow until the budget comes to zero. You can also spend more time with your family so that you can completely forget about gambling. I hope you can stay away from gambling soon.

   Winterlemon912 you gave a good advice to ThePatient! He need to think about limiting his funds, to try to
lower the time he spends gambling, that will require a self-control, he needs to work on that, steady and slow
and to think about it every day, and practice it!
   I think he doesn't have to stay away from gambling for life! If he learns how to control himself, he can limit
his bankroll and gamble for fun with money he can spare, if he can't do that then it's better to quit gambling for
good!

It's easy, just don't gamble and control yourself, don't let your gambling addiction or urge within you affect your investment as we are talking about your possible future success here. With gambling, you can mess up your investment like withdrawing your money when it's not yet suppose to withdraw it.

if you feel you don't have the capacity to gamble, just never expose yourself in a gambling sites, maybe delete all your gambling accounts, you'll be safer that way.

Very original condition...  :-\ But cryptocurrencies offer a magic feature compared to fiat : it's their private key.
Maybe when you want to hold some cryptos, you can just put them in a wallet and hide the key somewhere not easily accessible for you. Or maybe you can use a multisig wallet for them, shared with some trusted people. 

Crypto-related gambling sites are for those who want to invest and at the same time wants to play gambling. So there's a lot of gambling platforms in the crypto community because majority of the people play gambling.
I guess gambling addiction wasn't he's referring but the other way to earn crypto without gambling.

For honest, no. I invested in crypto in early 2015, and despite the fact that first bitcoins (before investing some more amount) were received from binary options (it's close to gamble, something like head or tails game) i don't feel any necessity to gamble. So this is something wrong with you, i think you played even before starting to be familiar with crypto. 

Like what the saying in investing only invest what you can afford to lose, so is on gambling you must allocate on gambling what you can afford to lose, gambling is a game of chance even in skill-based gambling, luck still plays a big factor you can lose everything if you don't have control on what you are allocating in gambling, only you can control it, either you end up losing everything before you realized it, or you realize it now.

It all depends on our skills in gambling and investing If we are good at both we can do both But I think it's better to invest than to gamble Gambling depends entirely on luck and without adequate knowledge, the chances of loss are high. In the case of investment, the amount of loss can be compensated It is something we can withdraw at any time. But gambling cannot be stopped until the end of the game This is why we can participate in investments by completely eliminating gambling.

If people can be wise to choose, they will use investing to make money than to use gambling. But people tend to make money from the fast way, and they think that gambling is one of many quick ways. Once they get into gambling, there is no way out from that except they have a strong will to stop gambling.


People need to find a legit investment, whether it's in offline or online investment. Most people will follow what other people say without searching for more info about the investment because they believe with that person that tells them to invest in one program. You can stop the gambling game if you want, but you need to have the power to say no/stop to yourself.

There are many gamblers that wanted this to use as strategy but we also know the urge of gambling in which addicting and tempting that if we lose part of our mind tells us that we can win all back just by hitting jackpot so the plan change when we sits on the table.
Luck is always the one needed to win,but in some areas of gambling skills are also take part in which even without big luck but if you are skilled then chance to win is also there.

Many investors can invest in crypto without doing gambling. Although there are some who are still gambling while investing, they only gamble a small portion of their total holdings of crypto coins.

I think your plans with regards to crypto in the future will help you change your mindset towards investing on it. I see that you can't control yourself too since you can invest but there is the desire on you that you want to hold crypto coins more within a short amount of time.

Think on how will you use your holdings in the future. Think on where will you use your holdings after a certain amount of time. Think of a long term and not short term and change your thinking with regards to investing. Invest only and not gamble at all. Seek help with your friends too who are expert in this aspect they can help you.

That's possible, there are people who are good in controlling themselves and they know what's their aim really.
Investing while gambling at the same should never be a problem if you don't have an issue in controlling yourself, because it's just right to know how to gamble when you are investing in a gambling platform..

This isn't easy for some people, when you're in that moment where you plan to save your crypto you'll sometimes start to feel that urge to gamble. Stopping right away might be too much for OP, winterlemon's suggestion is a good start for stopping an addiction since not everyone could adapt that fast others take several steps to completely stop it. Deleting your accounts isn't necessary imo because this could encourage you to gamble in other casinos.

See cryptocurrencies are not just about Gambling , it does make a very good token for the sites therefore there are many companies related to gambling interested in exploring the cryptocurrencies. The games are very enjoyable and easy to play and you cannot just play only once honestly. I was in a campaign which required me to make only 15 spins , I ended up making 40 of them and loosing a good amount 😂✨. See Gambling can easily become an addiction , but you need to learn to control your senses , the sites are very specifically designed for the users , they used all the biological experiments to make sure you gamble without any bounds . You can medicate and keep track of what you are loosing and what you are earning.

I experience same thing but I tried to fight the urge to not gamble the crypto I have which is btc at that time then I made myself think that the crypto I have is big amount even though in real understanding it's not big amount and I manage to control myself not to gamble the crypto I have. So basically, it's self-control you have to do.

It is easy to say self control but it is hard to do especially for those people who are trapped in overcoming their addiction to it. Addiction in gambling is not a simple topic and that is why we should deeply understand about it.

There are many people who are still addicted to it even though they lose huge amount of money many times maybe because their emotions are now attached to it and that is why they cannot escaped the addiction.

For those people who want to escaped and have a new life, it is better to consult professionals because they are the ones who are knowledgeable and their skills and their information can help us to understand the addiction and how to overcome it.

That is why you should always check your control in gambling, because if you already reach the point of losing your "self control", you are now in a different level. Agree with you that it is now way wider than "self control". They are now addicted to the whole process of gambling, not just by winning anymore, loses will not make them stop too. Professionals are needed with the support of the family and friends.  It will not work too if the addict himself didn't accept the fact that he isn't in control anymore, he should be the one asking for help, and he should be willing to cooperate.

It's up to you nan, you are the one who can answer some of your questions. Everyone can stop gambling if they can really do it. Investing is pretty much better than gambling because you are saving you money and it profitable in the long term run.
If you can control yourself from staying at gambling then that's good because the money that you are going to spend from gambling would be great if it would be placed for investments.

You can do it, bro, just think about some other things to do. Like spending your time with your family or playing some games, just focus on some other things so you would not the about to gamble anymore.

How would you handle the issue assuming you have thesame gambling problem (specifically self-control/addiction problem) in physical life?  I'd probably advice you to treat gambling addiction (if that is the issue), maybe by quitting bit by bit if you can't quit immediately. If you aren't profitable after spending alot of time betting then you'll need to look for something else to spend your time and money on.  

Sometimes I feel that our whole life is gambling. As for me I trust only Bitcoin, I read about altcoins some years ago, but decided not to invest in it.

This is the most appropriate way to avoid gambling. When we have spent some money and lose, at the same time we must think to stop this activity. Emotions generally will trap us in a worse situation. When we win, we want more and risk all the results in the next game. Missing winning expectations can make us more emotional and want to use more money. The more trapped when you lose, the more money you spend. Therefore, making decisions when experiencing defeat early on will make you able to stay away from gambling. And, most importantly also avoid gambling faucets that can lure you to do gambling again.

You don't have to do that if you are gambling with a certain bankroll that you can afford to lose.
Let's say I have my bankroll of $1000 for this gambling session, and if I lose it all I will stop, and if I double it I will stop.
That's simple, follow your own rule and you need to do the challenge to effective impose your will when gambling that everything should be done according to your game plan.


A gambler that has enough bankroll to gamble would not waste their time to play gambling faucets.

^ They have all provided good advice and none of those will fail you about defeating the urge in crypto gambling for it always depends on you how you can control yourself. I just want to reiterate your concern for your crypto gambling urges but not with fiat because these two have differences however both can be used in gambling. There are some factors why people get addicted to gambling and how some were able to cope up but your issue is quite different probably it is your perception of the value of cryptocurrencies versus the fiat money. But you have mentioned you are a believer of the crypto world but you may try asking why you couldn't afford to lose a fiat on your gambling activities unlike with your crypto, you might be a believer of crypto space but not accepting it same as how you value your fiat money. If you will include gold or silver on your gambling concern like gambling with your gold, fiat, or any cryptocurrency which of these you can afford to lose? Nevertheless, that will the answer why you don't have an issue on fiat unlike with your crypto gambling.

Somehow, I agree with you. Our life is full of gambling. Once we make a decision, we don't know what is the result until we do that. But we can prevent the big risk that might impact us. That will be the same thing if we apply it on gambling. As long as we can know how to minimize the risk, which we can limit our money to be used in gambling, we can reduce the risk of losing big money. Related to investing in cryptocurrency, if we can invest in the right coin, and we can accept the fluctuating of bitcoin price, I think that will not be the same as gambling because bitcoin price will have the time to increase. However, after the price increase, the price can decrease.

That is way easier said than done, on the surface the only thing a person needs to do in order to stop losing their money at the casinos is to stop playing and do something else with their time and with their money, but if you take to time to read the experiences of the members of the forum you will see that is very difficult and this is especially even more true now that there are not a lot of things that you can do and you cannot even see your family as you used to.

You are right. It's easy to say things that need to be done but hard to do it in actual.

Even the simple term of "stop doing gambling" is not an easy thing to do especially for those who still have extra funds even with the pandemic virus.

Being a responsible person really does have a long process.

If the people used to gamble everyday for the stop words will be ignore since in the end of the day once they bored for sure they will comeback again, for sure we experience this and we always regret with the result after the game that we should not gamble for that day.

I can't insert being responsible since when you are addicted gambler provably it needs a lot of efforts to achieve what you really ask since all is long process.

I agree with you but by chance cryptocurrencies offer several magic features. Like private keys, multisig wallets and time-locked transactions... So if you really aren't able to restrain you from spending your cryptos in gambling, you can use those features to help you for that.

In my experience being a cryptocurrency investor and poker player, I had experienced the ups and downs of being a cryptocurrency gambler in gambling sites but my rule of the thumb is simple and very basic - only allot a certain percentage for gambling and always save your winnings for the losing days. I don't spend my crypto in a buying frenzy whenever I win big in some game. I put my winnings and calculate what I had lost versus what I have profited. So I end up not really losing but always have the money to spend and end up winning more and profiting more. If you treat gambling like a business then it is not hard to accept loss since you already have calculated everything.

I do not have such an issue. I buy an amount of cryptocurrency every month for my gambling habit. At the moment I have stopped doing that as I do not feel like gambling because of the present virus situation.

I do not gamble with cryptocurrency that I have kept for long term HODL or for trading. I keep them seperately till date I have not mixed it up as I maintain a seperate excel file for both of them.

Most gamblers do not see the point of doing something like that but in fact it is critical, it is important to have our funds separated depending on the use we plan to give to them, this is something even professional gamblers have to do in order to not spend money they need to pay for their bills in the case they find themselves on a bad streak, if you can maintain that discipline over a long period of time not only you will keep the capital you have destined to be used as an investment you will also control any urges you may have to gamble compulsively.

You man a cap that when you lose all these say lose about 1BTC a month you stop gambling and then after a month you will once again have a budget of 1BTC. We don't see that everyday. I would only regret betting the coins I have spent if I see the sum of them all in the spreadsheet. I'd rather not and forget the ones that drained.

I already stop for months now, I just need to prioritize things that is really needed specially during this lockdown. But even before I'm gambling I stayed for a few years in crypto without even trying gambling. I think faucets really is the reason I tried gambling in the first place. Its kind of a win already when you gamble with the coins you got from faucets. You can earn without even spending from your own money.

So I agree with avoiding faucets, its kind of a trap. However, its true that some players doesn't even need faucets to gamble. If you are one of those, you should prioritize and focus on your goal when it comes to crypto. If its investing then research on how you can fully utilize aspects in investing. Don't even think of trying gambling. Don't click adds, avoid reading about those too good to be true ads. Try thinking of gambling as a trap that will make you lose your cryptos and will make all your handwork vanished in a few clicks.

Exactly, I have experience about this before, why I say this. In the past, I can make 2.000 Doge from faucet earning (100 Doge). In a few minutes, I lose them all. Because I think if from 100 Doge, I can make 2.000, I will have a "chance (the trap begin)" to get more, if I'm betting 1.000. This the first time I bet with the deposit money. What happens, I try to make a deposit 5.000 Doge and lose them all without winning, LOL ::)

And congrats to you have already stopped to play a gambling, if you believe yourself, you can do it for a long time. Good luck bro  :)

Well Faucet is really good source of capital in gambling but OP is asking how to stay away from gambling and not how to earn without capital thats another story.

Gambling is such another thing that we need to play while there are sites that offers us to invest in them so you don't need to play to earn(but of course there are risk as well)

what?Man at least read the whole thread before putting your out of topic post,what you mean is investing in bitcoin but no connection in gambling discussion .

A huge sadness he will get if he list his all losses on spreadsheet so much better if he just keep the record off since this thing will cause another harm or depression, If we want to stay away on gambling then better for us to not visit any gambling sites since if we continuously do this for sure we will forget the urge to gamble anymore and we can focus on other things especially for investments.

Many gamblers began their journey that way, they used faucets at the beginning since they thought this was an easy way to gamble without spending any money but as they kept gambling and their desire for it grew they could no longer get enough satisfaction by just using the money they got from faucets and they decide at that moment to begin to use their own money, and then as they begin losing they now have the desire to get the money they lost creating a vicious cycle from which it is difficult to escape.

If you gamble with pennies you will win pennies! 1 in a million make a lot of money from a small bet (lottery, or some crazy betting combination, some slots and huge payouts). South Park you are right about one thing,
after tasting higher stakes betting it's not a trill to play with small stakes! Simple explanation behind that, more risk equal more excitement. In my country they say "Mother didn't cry because her son is a gambler, she cried because he was trying to win back what he lost!" I lose and win, and I don't care for the money I deposit for gambling. If you wish to win you need to try, without trying you don't have chances for nothing. And money is just the money in the end, you can always earn money and for sure money will be spent on something, be adult and responsible about your decisions, do what you wish to do and don't regret your actions later!

This is your own way bro, in this thread, OP wants to stay away from gambling, also I'm sure he will don't care with his money on gambling anymore.

Sure, Everything will be like this, anyone must try for anything he wants in his life and then will become the targets, working for it, try to do anything possible to know the results. of course in gambling, a gambler must try to bet higher to test his winning possibilities.

I do not think that you need additional self-control, because in this case you will lose all the fun. You need to find a way to build your coins in a safe way.
Yes, such a path can be slower, but the main thing in it is that the number of coins will increase and there will be more and more, as you want.
It is important to realize that in the event of gambling you risk reducing your volumes, which is unacceptable.

How about investing your bitcoin in a crypto casino.

you can check his journey, GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239794.0)

A member of the forum sharing his journey investing his bitcoin in different gambling sites, and so far, he is doing better as he is both profitable in BTC and USD value.  Just try to check it out, maybe you'll be interested, and I don't think you'll gamble on a site you've invested, that's doesn't look good.

i also following that thread because @yatsan is doing better in his Journey in gambling investments that is running for almost 2 months now.

I think Op is a Gambler thats why he wanted to try His journey here in crypto gambling instead in Trading or Holding.

He is doing better now because bitcoin was bullish, he started investing last April 12 this year, and bitcoin that time closed at USD 6,971.09, while the current price is already over $10,000... that alone would already result a decent profit.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/historical-data/?start=20200412&end=20200602

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Trying reading back the OP, he is a gambler but he can't control the urge to gamble when he has the coins in his wallet.
He needs to learn how to control that, and that has been his problem.

If you find difficult save your cryptocurrency, aka you bet too much... you should setup a cold wallet 8) and then hide "literally" or try to store it in a place that you can't access easily.
Since even if you're tempted to play, you should spend some hours to get access on your coins and meanwhile you can "calm down" and decide to not play.

During the lockdown I retrieved some altcoins/bitcoin that I have hide in a very old laptop.
Likewise several layers of security, and some password to get inside a specific drive.
But the pleasure to gain access to some coins stored long time ago, it's worth more than any bets ;)
(or this is the bet, store some coins in a coldwallet because you think one day the price will be higher then nowadays!)

If you want to both invest and gamble then you should separate your portfolio.
Allocate it to 80-20 or whatever you want but just keep the percentages clear and do not tangle them.
This case you are going to savor your gambling needs and not regret by not investing.

But OP is much more interested in expecting good returns within a short period of time. That's why he always rushes everything to make profits.

Hopefully, OP will wake up someday that there's no such thing as quick profit on which I know he is aware but just can't resist gambling his money to make more.

Investing in gambling site bankroll is good but OP needs to understand that it needs the patience to see the profit while facing the risks that the money is being held by a third-party website.

I think a lot of people would do that too since if you know that it is something that would be big in the future.

The mistake there is putting it into gambling. To be honest I would be thinking the same thing but I will not be doing it since we all know how gambling works. You really need to control yourself, it is hard but that is important. Right now, the cryptos I am getting are not going into gambling sites except for the ones I am getting on the sig. camp. They are going straight to my hand to hold.

If you want to invest in Crypto and want to ensure you don't touch those holdings for a very long time - research paper wallets.  Print out a paper wallet taking note of the wallet address and then send the paper wallet to someone you trust long term to hang onto it (that you implicitly trust) then send $10 or $20 worth of crypto to that wallet address.  Printing out three or four paper wallets and sending them to various people spilts up your funds and you are less likely to dip into your funds if they are split up having to bug more people.

Another thread you can look for is time-locked transfers of funds.  Funds are deposited and then locked to automatically transfer after a set time.  If you don't have anyone you realy trust to hold paper wallets for you AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING you can deposit funds into a paper wallet set a time-locked transfer and dispose of the paper wallet (yes, burn the piece of paper).  Sometime down the track those funds will arrive in your designated wallet (don't make it a Casino that might not be there in future).

Your $100 today could be $1,000 down the road a bit as long as you can wait.

Good luck.

Taking into account what we can read at the OP it's obvious to me that there is a need for additional self-control, as some people have suggested a good idea could be to put your coins in a paper wallet, hardware wallet or an USB with your private keys encrypted and give it to someone that you trust, that way if you get the urge to gamble you're not going to have your coins easily accessible for you, but as you may guess this method comes with risks, the person that you trust could try to steal your coins or even worse it could lose the wallet that you give to him and if you do not have a spare copy then those coins will be lost.

I never think of this lol. I agree with this idea, only if OP will be serious.

This is a literal untouchable storage fund and the only way to spend it is by forced either by you or the one you entrusted.

Take note that others need to research how the paper wallet works or else, doomed.

OP, there's a solution that might work for your case: timelocks (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Timelock).

You can hodl coins without being able to touch them until certain time in the future, thus removing the possibility of gambling them away. You might be tempted to gamble when the day of unlocking will come, but if you really believe in a coin, then by that time the price should be higher and you'll likely want to sell it and take your profit.

Be warned though that this is an advanced feature, and it's possible to lose your coins if you are to careless, so try it on testnet first to learn how to set it all up.

Well this is an effective way if op really want to control spending his crypto on gambling.

I have the same experience of being tempted to use my funds as capital to play, because its easy to transfer my btc to a gambling site, in other words convenient on my part. After losing the money thats the time I will regret using it. My solution is set a funds to use for gambling and control myself to refrain from playing, we need discipline and we're the only one who can control ourselves.

That is easy to do if you have self-control, you should always think which is better, gambling or investing? Which one do you think is best and will benefit you in the future? Life is full of decisions, you have to choose the right one to become a better person. If you are going to invest you will have money in the future, aside from saving your money you also make it profitable. If you do gambling, you may earn also but it is riskier than investing, aside from that gambling is so addictive, once you became addict to gambling, you may forget to do some other useful things because you will only focused on gambling. The worst thing is it may destroy your life, choose wisely, your own life would suffer if you choose the wrong one, we are old enough to know the right thing to do so I think you can as well.

The problem is that gamblers are not patient persons in general otherwise they would not gamble in the first place and hang on to what finance they had.So to tell a gambler to not tangle the balances is something very difficult to do.If the gambler losses the balance allocated to gambling and he knows he has the other balance in the casino bankroll I am sure he will start to use it too to gamble which may result in losing everything.In the invest scenario you either invest it all in the casino bankroll and wait or if you plan to also gamble it is a wise idea to not invest at all.

It is difficult to allocate percentages in gambling because gambling will always be a major problem when losing a bet and therefore investing in crypto will be hampered if you are still addicted to gambling because it will take funds from the investment allocation for gambling even though it is once but it will be addictive again for the next.
One way is to avoid gambling when you want to be serious about investing in crypto. If you still know about gambling, if you try to play again, this will be difficult to stop, even it will become a problem in your finances.

If you are staking into coins that are there for a long time already, I don't think that it can be called as gambling as you will earn dividends as you are holding their tokens and that is sure.

Some of the tokens that can be staked are giving low dividends annually (some are around 3%) but for some it maybe high already. There are some who are giving a high dividend percentage annually (like 9% or higher). EOS, VET, NEO, XTZ are some of the coins that you can earn stakes by just holding the coins.

This is excellent.way to.preserve your coins from gambling but it might be very tricky. You might literaly lose acces to your coins.
On the other hand if someone is really passionate gambler I don't know what could have stoped him from gambling, he would try everything to get to the funds, so there is no easy solution.
Selfcontrol is the key to my opinion.

I agree. I learned for a long time to set limits and minimize risks when I learned to play poker. Then, when I started investing in bitcoin, I had to develop restraint and calm, since I bought it at 3k, and 6k, and 8k, and 9k. And every time the price changed a lot, my emotional state changed too. But I took a long game and decided to check the price of bitcoin once a day in the morning.

You should be able to get or enhance  the discipline within yourself. You should have that. Or else, for every time that you will have any cryptocurrencies on hand, you will just bet it again and may end up losing all those in the end. If you cannot win on gambling, better than to quit it than to continue.
Better start to resist on your urge to gamble those coins that you are holding. Go extend effort, discipline, or any other ways just for you to be able to slow it down.
If you wanted to gain try investing on holding or trading rather than gambling where you are not gaining and is also losing alot. Discipline sir, you must have it, and also set some goal.

Discipline and money management. In trading, we must be prepared with every risk. Maybe it will be different from hold and invest, because trading besides requires good decision making, it also must be able to adjust the level of profit and loss. This is not an easy thing indeed, but there is no business and investment that will profit forever. The important thing is to need to be patient, discipline, and good money management to minimize losses. Maybe this can help someone to stay away from gambling but still have a profit.

It's not new it's the same as controlling yourself on how not to gamble with the fiat money you need professional help, because you are out of your control you have kept it for a long time, why not give yourself a favor and get to meet a psychiatrist so he can give you a custom test and give you the right medication for your symptoms, you should address it right away.

Agree, discipline and to focus on something you are inclining to in crypto. Forgot that you can gamble with the crypto. Try to focus on investing it or trading it. Read about how you will successfully double your coins and so on. And honestly, if you've already trying to combat it alone and always fail, its better to ask for help already. Professionals can help you pinpoint the underlying conditions of that problem. They can also help you on what to do in order for you to be successful in crypto.

You wont necessarily need help from others because you can eventually solve it for yourself if you do actually intend to focus more on investment path rather than on gambling itself.Theres no really need to choose because
you can actually do both but it would really need some discipline on your part because you would prioritize one side compared to other.You can have fun at the same time you do have investment in back part. The question is, not all people would really have that kind of mindset towards investment, they would either make big allocations on gambling and just small to their investment.If you do find yourself on this way then it would be good
to take a break and rethink on how to make worthy moves if you are aiming for long term benefit.