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Title: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: chaser15 on June 02, 2020, 08:40:27 PM

Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage benefited a team.

Baseball (2018 Major League Baseball)
Home team won 1,277 games (52.6%)
Away team won 1,149 games (47.4%)

Basketball (2018-19 NBA Season)
Home team won 1,230 games (71%)
Away team won 501 games (29%)

Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 02, 2020, 09:42:42 PM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

We cant really deny that Homecourt advantage thing not only just basing up on the stats/percentage but we can actually say it directly if we do see teams play into their own homecourt.
 
and now we are on that no-crowd venues then it will really have that slight impact towards players full performance compared when there are people around them which do cheer and support.

Home court advantage? We can say that it wont matter that much now but at least players do now on where they do play and might still have that confidence in mind that they are playing on their home town.
Who knows.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: asianguy845 on June 02, 2020, 09:50:53 PM
Honestly, even with no live audience, I think home court is still an advantage, just by less.
NBA had a consistent 55-65% win chance on home court, while it has now decreased to 52-55%, which is still an advantage.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ralle14 on June 03, 2020, 12:40:40 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?
Home court could still be an advantage to some leagues mainly the NBA teams. Several players are used to playing and practicing in the same court where they get a slight advantage against their opponent. On other leagues like the MLB and NHL I think it'll be an even playing field because of other factors. I don't follow NHL that often but whenever I do watch a few there's always a visiting team that would win or pull a come back after trailing the entire game.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Timelord2067 on June 03, 2020, 01:18:13 AM
The Australian NRL (National Rugby League - which isn't National, but this isn't a thread for that topic) has restarted playing without any spectators in the grandstands.  So far the games are being played in mostly neutral stadiums (Lang Park here in Brisbane for example) and the games have been described as "very good games" for the very reason the players and organisers want the League to recover and they are itching to prove themselves.

The NRL State of Origin is definitely an electric game when it is played and the "home team advantage" is put to the test when it is "State Vs State" - Queensland at Lang Park, New South Wales at wherever they play.  The other team is viewed as the invader/the enemy etc, so both teams put their all into the game.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: pakhitheboss on June 03, 2020, 01:26:28 AM
Most players practice at their home court, they know the advantage and disadvantages of the court. I do not think non live audience will affect them in any ways. Playing in their home court automatically will boost their morale, having audience is an added advantage.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Darker45 on June 03, 2020, 02:38:25 AM
The advantage might be lesser now without the live cheers of your hometown fans, but there might still be some kind of "this if my turf" mentality among the players. So, there might still be a little advantage after all. Not to mention that the court they are playing on is the one they are most familiar with.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Kemarit on June 03, 2020, 02:58:50 AM
I think this is just one factor though, but remember, games like NBA, top tier teams vs the lower one? Which you would you pick and beat without home court advantage? Obviously, it will still be the top team. Doesn't matter at all I guess, the team with the most wins have a higher chance of winning regardless if they are playing home court or not, just saying.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: plvbob0070 on June 03, 2020, 04:27:00 AM
Even if there's a home-court advantage, it does not give an assurance that the home team will the game. The outcome still depends on the performance of the players. But even though there's no live audience in the coming games, I think that they still have the advantage because of the environment. Home-court advantage is not just about the number of fans, there are also other factors and one of that is the environment. Since they are familiar and comfortable with the place, they won't have to make adjustments.

At the end of it, even if the other team has the advantage, the opposite team can still win if they played better than the other. Even if there is no audience, players can still boost their energy if they are in good condition. And knowing that there are fans supporting them even though they can't be inside the game.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Rosilito on June 03, 2020, 04:39:40 AM
Home court or not home court a team will always have an advantage, because of the team composition, players win games not the crowd, great team focus on team efforts and plays, they do not and cannot rely on crowds to do it for themselves, they can be motivated but their greatest motivation is within themselves, so no even if there is no live audience the best team will always win.

Yeah at some point. But it ain't all about the fans though. Sometimes being in your comfort field or court makes you play at ease what I mean you got the feeling that you knew where you could throw nice shots at a certain spot. Well, technically the court ain't no different from the opponent's but the thing is the surrounding or the environment itself makes you feel you're on the edge. I once been a basketball player in a small league in our town. I really don't know psychological stuff about this but whenever we have a match on our home court it made me/us feel we're on the winning side already. Maybe confidence, crowd vocals have an effect or maybe we are more accustomed playing in our field simply because we convinced ourselves that it really has an effect.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Bttzed03 on June 03, 2020, 04:53:50 AM
Cheers from fans would certainly boost players confidence but even without live audiences, the team's pride to protect their turf is still intact. None of them would want to be embarrass. Another factor we have to look at is that home teams don't need to travel. They can just preserve their energy and that in itself is an advantage.

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Home court could still be an advantage to some leagues mainly the NBA teams. Several players are used to playing and practicing in the same court where they get a slight advantage against their opponent. On other leagues like the MLB and NHL I think it'll be an even playing field because of other factors. I don't follow NHL that often but whenever I do watch a few there's always a visiting team that would win or pull a come back after trailing the entire game.
This. While it is true that court/field/ring measurements are standard, there's a different feel when you are playing in your home court (but I don't know if that's just me). 
 


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: swogerino on June 03, 2020, 06:30:24 AM
The home advantage will still be there as the players will feel psychologically better when they are playing at home and also is a well know. fact that any referee gives and advantage of 5% to the home team in soccer games.So for soccer it won’t impact anything but I am not sure in Baseball or Basketball.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: serjent05 on June 03, 2020, 07:42:36 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home court advantage still exist.

1.  They are familiar with the place.
2.  They don't have to have a long trip for the match so they are kinda not stressed out due to the effect of long trip.
3.  There is no feeling of awkwardness or uneasy because as said, they are familiar with every corner of the court.  Feeling of awkwardness because of having no audience of course is an exemption.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: 0x456 on June 03, 2020, 07:44:48 AM
The home advantage will still be there as the players will feel psychologically better when they are playing at home and also is a well know. fact that any referee gives and advantage of 5% to the home team in soccer games. So for soccer it won’t impact anything but I am not sure in Baseball or Basketball.

I don't agree with you, It likely will have almost a similar impact in Basketball and Baseball as it does with Soccer. The big teams now have even a better chance at winning games away from home because one of the best advantages the underdogs usually have when facing a better opponent is their home crowd. Playing Liverpool, Dortmund or Barcelona at Anfield, Signal Iduna Park or Camp Nou with the crowd is not and will never be the same.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Lakai01 on June 03, 2020, 07:52:49 AM
Home court advantage still exist.

1.  They are familiar with the place.
2.  They don't have to have a long trip for the match so they are kinda not stressed out due to the effect of long trip.
3.  There is no feeling of awkwardness or uneasy because as said, they are familiar with every corner of the court.  Feeling of awkwardness because of having no audience of course is an exemption.

We had a similiar discussion here, initiated by tyKiwanuka (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231596.msg53997608#msg53997608).
Your points hit the nail on the head, but the most decisive factor was the so-called "referee bias" (speaking of soccer):

The second article lists a lot of factors which influence home advantage (https://help.smarkets.com/hc/en-gb/articles/115000647291-Why-you-should-consider-home-advantage-for-football-trading). According to this article the so called "Referee Bias" is the most influental factor on home team advantage:

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There is overwhelming evidence that referees decisions are biased towards the home team. Moskowitz and Wertheim (2012) found that the referee was the most influential factor on home advantage, and that home teams gained a small bias from the referee. They did make it clear that this is not done consciously, instead, the referees were affected subconsciously by the emotion of a home crowd.


This point is certainly not necessary in games without any audience, because there are simply no fans the referee has to "fear".
The points you have listed are of course equally true even without fans in the stadium. For example, the teams still have to travel to the stadium and therefore have travel stress.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: NavI_027 on June 03, 2020, 08:32:01 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now?
No longer at all. Let's accept that this is now the new normal. Expect that sports events will be held with few to no audience at all. And you may also think that it is actualy the main reason why sports orgs. don't resume their business yet because large portion of their revenue came from ticket sales.

Guys check this out. Even Joe Rogan of UFC feeling new with the silent ambiance https://www.facebook.com/587803194998190/posts/933322233779616/?app=fbl. What more for the figjters lol ;D.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: imstillthebest on June 03, 2020, 09:32:10 AM
you wont mind the audience if you are a pro player because you can always win the game based on your skill and not because of the crown but to some , audience can give them a small boost   .

 playing during these season can be thier disadvantage so why would still continue if they know that they can loose ? better if they can ask for postponement  of the match and return only when all things come back to normal   .


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ucy on June 03, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
Guess the chances for home teams are high because they feel at home and the pressure/cheering from supporters is pushing them to win. Besides, the players will likely play harder to impress their supporters and community.

 Imagine wrestling without the audiences... the motivation will be low for the wrestlers. They will probably perform well without the audiences if there are other incentives to get them perform.
So, maybe the footballers incentives (without audience) have to be modified abit to reward them for playing well


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Latviand on June 03, 2020, 10:15:08 AM
The home advantage will still be there as the players will feel psychologically better when they are playing at home and also is a well know. fact that any referee gives and advantage of 5% to the home team in soccer games.So for soccer it won’t impact anything but I am not sure in Baseball or Basketball.

It is still a different feeling playing with audience who support a certain team, the noises, the chants and the shouts of the people who are urging a team to win. The true advantage of a homecourt is when it is full of a people who lives in that city cheering the players to win. A players are getting determined and strong when they know that there are people who are believing in them. But in terms of percentages and statistics, it is true that homecourt can really affect the winning percentage of a certain team when it comes to a game. It includes all of the game that are played in different city courts like that, basketball, baseball, soccer, volleyball, and other sports that include audiences.



Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: rhomelmabini on June 03, 2020, 10:22:53 AM
you wont mind the audience if you are a pro player because you can always win the game based on your skill and not because of the crown but to some , audience can give them a small boost
The thing is, these kind of games are not only played by an ace player of the team, it's played by the whole. Just even on the stats given on the OP that will surely give you an idea how home court advantage really drives the win for the game home court players.

Much more if there are crucial plays the crowd really do make a difference to change the pace and momentum of the game especially in basketball most likely the NBA. Under the new normal of less or no fans in an arena I think home court advantage will really not make a difference.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on June 03, 2020, 10:58:59 AM
I think this is just one factor though, but remember, games like NBA, top tier teams vs the lower one? Which you would you pick and beat without home court advantage? Obviously, it will still be the top team. Doesn't matter at all I guess, the team with the most wins have a higher chance of winning regardless if they are playing home court or not, just saying.

True but don't forget some disappointed are always recorded in any sporting event like this. For example in football, smaller teams always find a way to entertain and impress their fans which give them an extra motivation to outperform their opponent irrespective of what the attacking strength of their opponent.

Not much of a fan of NBA but from what I have read so far, the home advantage has a lot to do with teams winning games most especially the average teams and not the big teams per se.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: serjent05 on June 03, 2020, 11:08:01 AM
I think this is just one factor though, but remember, games like NBA, top tier teams vs the lower one? Which you would you pick and beat without home court advantage? Obviously, it will still be the top team. Doesn't matter at all I guess, the team with the most wins have a higher chance of winning regardless if they are playing home court or not, just saying.

True but don't forget some disappointed are always recorded in any sporting event like this. For example in football, smaller teams always find a way to entertain and impress their fans which give them an extra motivation to outperform their opponent irrespective of what the attacking strength of their opponent.

True that for a smaller teams, it brings them more motivation to beat their opponent especially if the opponent is the larger/stronger one.  Since they have this need to prove themselves and bring them more sponsors and fans.

Not much of a fan of NBA but from what I have read so far, the home advantage has a lot to do with teams winning games most especially the average teams and not the big teams per se.

The home-court always gives an advantage to all teams whether they are small, an average of big teams.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 03, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
Teams playing in their homecourt is really an advantage whether it is a game of basketball, baseball, football, etc. That is why they called it a homecourt advantage because players are getting hype up and motivated due to the cheer of their fans for them to show off and outperfom their opponents.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 03, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: bitbollo on June 03, 2020, 12:25:24 PM

Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage benefited a team.

Baseball (2018 Major League Baseball)
Home team won 1,277 games (52.6%)
Away team won 1,149 games (47.4%)

Basketball (2018-19 NBA Season)
Home team won 1,230 games (71%)
Away team won 501 games (29%)

Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

it's always an advantage since home team doesn't need to relocate in another city (more relaxed).
Home team know perfectly the field condition (at least for sport played outside and not indoor).
Plus in football game, since you can change per rule the length of the football field between 90 to 120 meters (!) an home team could decide to adapt dimension of football field according the status of the players (likewise if player are exhausted from many matches they can just play in a "short" field).
I don't know if there is a similar rule also in other sports, but it's widely used by some team (and it's accepted by FIFA rules ;) )


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Harkorede on June 03, 2020, 12:31:12 PM
This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.

Made me wonder what the Raptors will look like when playing at home right now, I think football is probably still enjoyable without the fans, but as for NBA with so many breaks and timeout moments for the fans, I can't say the same. However, it is what it is and I would rather have NBA game without the fan than no NBA at all.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 03, 2020, 12:41:34 PM
This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.

Made me wonder what the Raptors will look like when playing at home right now, I think football is probably still enjoyable without the fans, but as for NBA with so many breaks and timeout moments for the fans, I can't say the same. However, it is what it is and I would rather have NBA game without the fan than no NBA at all.

Exactly, let's just enjoy what the NBA can give to us when they come back, there are only few games at the moment and as for me, I have been waiting for the NBA to resume so we can again start to cast our bet, the playoffs would be fun, I don't mind not seeing fans as long as I know analyze the games and I can bet accordingly.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: peter0425 on June 03, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
Yeah that is the sad part of sports now,how can the home court owner took the advantage when there are no cheering for them?and their family and love once that seats in the bench?now they will play as if there are only limit of people inside the stadium and players don't use to this kind of way of playing.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: acroman08 on June 03, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
yes, it is still an advantage, the home-court advantage doesn't solely rely on the audience. one major factor of homecourt advantage other than the audience is the familiarity of surrounding, place or venue etc.. which affects the player of both team mentally may it be small, big, positive or negative and being comfortable while you play will affect your entire performance in the game.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: sana54210 on June 03, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
Obviously it is a big missing piece in any sports to not have your fans cheering for you when you are playing, however I do not believe that its the only thing. When the cheers becomes too loud the players obviously get affected by it, and that is why there is usually more losses that comes on the road and you win more at home, you get that fan support behind your back that helps you out. However you have to realize there is also travelling involved.

You get out of your house, meet with the club at your home court, they take you to a bus, you go to an airport with that bus, you take a flight to a new city, you get out of plane and go to another bus again, which takes you to a hotel instead of your home, you sleep there sometimes or maybe it is the day of the match when you arrive. All around its not really comfortable to be on the road, not just because of fans but in many reasons.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: verita1 on June 03, 2020, 10:14:47 PM
Guys, it's worse than nothing. The team directors are doing everything possible to make the return of sports to the courts a success.
We are living an atypical time, the players and the public know it. The public is key to giving more energy to the players and with that we all agree. However, I remain convinced that the players will give their best this season.

There should be an advantage for the team that is in better physical and emotional shape.



Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: dothebeats on June 03, 2020, 10:56:32 PM
It's one missing piece but there area also some factors that add up to what we call "home court advantage."

First off, since players are practicing on these same courts for almost every day, they know so well the optimal position in which they can do their thing. Athletes do have a 'feel' on where they are playing, and it adds up to their optimal performance overall. To put up an example, take some tennis players with preferences to clay, grass, hard or carpet courts. They excel in some courts but not on other ones. It's the same as home court advantage, especially if you already developed that 'feel' on these certain courts.

We have to make do with what we have in order to proceed with sporting events. It was already allowed, and we don't want it to be revoked by forcing ourselves to watch live. It's the different feel and excitement still, especially if you're supporting your favorite teams or athletes on the stadium or at home.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ralle14 on June 03, 2020, 11:40:32 PM
Exactly, let's just enjoy what the NBA can give to us when they come back, there are only few games at the moment and as for me, I have been waiting for the NBA to resume so we can again start to cast our bet, the playoffs would be fun, I don't mind not seeing fans as long as I know analyze the games and I can bet accordingly.
Despite of the no home court advantage in the NBA the interesting part in their plan is the playoffs format more teams included because of the play in bracket. We could also see more upsets this playoffs now that lower seeded teams don't have to worry about top seed teams getting the first home match.

Yeah that is the sad part of sports now,how can the home court owner took the advantage when there are no cheering for them?and their family and love once that seats in the bench?now they will play as if there are only limit of people inside the stadium and players don't use to this kind of way of playing.
The environment isn't the same for the players and the fans but when it's the only option left for leagues to finish their season we just have to accept it.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 03, 2020, 11:47:35 PM
NBA will not make it a dull tournament, though there will be no crowd but for sure they will put something in the crowd section to somehow let the home team feel they are playing at home, I don't know how they will do it but a Mannequin might might be put, with matching good sound effects during the break time or time out. We never know what's coming but I hope the management will make it a very fun arena despite of the limit options they can utilize.

I wonder what would be the odds then, looking forward for the playoffs to kick in soon, it's been a long time since we don't see some real action.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: MCobian on June 03, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience. In my opinion, the excitement of the game will be even less.
Therefore, I really hope that the vaccine can be found soon, so that sports matches can return to normal. Although for now
we have to accept the fact that the vaccine hasn't been found, so it becomes a home court sports match without a live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Negotiation on June 04, 2020, 04:29:56 AM
I agree with you there were many advantages before in the case of sports matches But now due to the outbreak of the virus, the match is not as before and the audience has decreased Everyone is turning to the social distance to survive their virus. That's why the excitement of this game is very low and no one is going to the field and enjoying the game directly I don't think the vaccine for this virus will come out anymore So far no one was able to send in the perfect solution which is not strange No one will return to the game until the epidemic is over.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: JSRAW on June 04, 2020, 04:44:46 AM
If anyone want to explore the vast idea of advantage on home turf then look at Cricket. In cricket home team exploit this feature ridiculously where pitches are prepared according to their skills and pitches play crucial part in Win-Loss. Once a while visiting team does outplay home team though.

House full or Empty Stand, doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Wexnident on June 04, 2020, 05:01:10 AM
The live audience is just one factor of home-court advantage imo. There's the fact that home-court gives players the edge to understanding the place. It's a kind of abstract feeling where they feel at home, thereby boosting their confidence. The audience is just one factor added in there. And also, if there's a positive feeling, there's also a negative feeling which is the visiting players. More specifically, I'm describing the concept of a foreign entity kind of like environment where you don't know where you are and the like. Not sure if it could serve as an example but you can think of it as a king visiting a foreign country for negotiation talks. Normally, the two kingdoms are fighting but since King A decided to visit, his sense of unbelonging inside the other kingdom brings about negative effects not only to his but also to his retainers.

Guys, it's worse than nothing. The team directors are doing everything possible to make the return of sports to the courts a success.
We are living an atypical time, the players and the public know it. The public is key to giving more energy to the players and with that we all agree. However, I remain convinced that the players will give their best this season.

There should be an advantage for the team that is in better physical and emotional shape.
It shouldn't really be called like that tbh. Everything possible means that we would even accept the minimum, but honestly, that's us audience. Remember that games are for the players themselves, for them to win, to enjoy the atmosphere, etc., so them pushing it forcefully can be good and bad, depending on how you look at it. But I'm on the side of us being lucky though since they are pushing for it after all.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: shoreno on June 04, 2020, 05:31:42 AM
The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience.

no live audience at home court but what about when teams are away ? still no audience ? depends on the country i guess  .

 if the country has a less case of virus , we can see audience  . let say if there are no audience on home court but the field is still memorized by the home team so its still an advantage for them to win the game  . crowd or audience are only secondary that can boost the game   .


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: coin-investor on June 04, 2020, 05:59:42 AM
Honestly, even with no live audience, I think home court is still an advantage, just by less.
NBA had a consistent 55-65% win chance on home court, while it has now decreased to 52-55%, which is still an advantage.


Between a great team and a weak one, home-court advantage is just useless, but between a team who are even home-court advantage can have an impact, now that audiences are not allowed, it's fair between team without strength, it's better this way so these sporting events will continue without issues of audiences health concern.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 04, 2020, 07:19:55 AM
Honestly, even with no live audience, I think home court is still an advantage, just by less.
NBA had a consistent 55-65% win chance on home court, while it has now decreased to 52-55%, which is still an advantage.


Between a great team and a weak one, home-court advantage is just useless, but between a team who are even home-court advantage can have an impact, now that audiences are not allowed, it's fair between team without strength, it's better this way so these sporting events will continue without issues of audiences health concern.

It's gonna be the first time that home court is not a big factor, if this pandemic will continue, then they better play in just one venue, so players will also not gonna travel anymore. Still, there's no clear rules or set up if the NBA will resume, we are still going to wait what's gonna be the  rules so we are aware of what is going to happen and as a better, we can also make a clear decision.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: kotajikikox on June 04, 2020, 07:50:12 AM
Home court advantage will always remain as is,because it is in the heart of player and not in the audience.Yeah it can add some boost for the players but the instinct of depending your own town is what installed into their hearts and Mind so yeah in some part there is some changes but the true player relies in their skills and not in fans.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Bezobraznike on June 04, 2020, 08:00:40 AM
Home court advantage will always remain as is,because it is in the heart of player and not in the audience.Yeah it can add some boost for the players but the instinct of depending your own town is what installed into their hearts and Mind so yeah in some part there is some changes but the true player relies in their skills and not in fans.

   If you didn't know I will tell you, for fans they say they are additional player to the team. If fans are crazy,
loud, if they support their team, if they bother opponents with loud yelling when they attack.
   Some teams have so big support from fans and I think playing without audience will be a different experience
for some players, attackers! They have most support from fans, for whom they will play now and have special
dances after scoring a goal?


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ucy on June 04, 2020, 09:07:26 AM
you wont mind the audience if you are a pro player because you can always win the game based on your skill and not because of the crown but to some , audience can give them a small boost
The thing is, these kind of games are not only played by an ace player of the team, it's played by the whole. Just even on the stats given on the OP that will surely give you an idea how home court advantage really drives the win for the game home court players.

Much more if there are crucial plays the crowd really do make a difference to change the pace and momentum of the game especially in basketball most likely the NBA. Under the new normal of less or no fans in an arena I think home court advantage will really not make a difference.


I think a reasonable numbers of supporters in the stadiums at the safe required level can still encourage the players.
  They could get the supporters abit close to the players so that they will feel more close to each other and be encouraged. The voices, presence, cheers, encouragement, etc would need to be felt more by the players





Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: leea-1334 on June 04, 2020, 09:10:28 AM
The live audience is just one factor of home-court advantage imo. There's the fact that home-court gives players the edge to understanding the place. It's a kind of abstract feeling where they feel at home, thereby boosting their confidence. The audience is just one factor added in there. And also, if there's a positive feeling, there's also a negative feeling which is the visiting players. More specifically, I'm describing the concept of a foreign entity kind of like environment where you don't know where you are and the like. Not sure if it could serve as an example but you can think of it as a king visiting a foreign country for negotiation talks. Normally, the two kingdoms are fighting but since King A decided to visit, his sense of unbelonging inside the other kingdom brings about negative effects not only to his but also to his retainers.

Yeah it is one factor,,, and not necessary positive. I remember when Spurs had a new "home" at Wembley it was very different and it took us some getting used to.

For some teams, they may even face more pressure from fans. Making home advantage a disadvantage because you can feel it when the crowd is pressuring you.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Tipstar on June 04, 2020, 09:13:38 AM
Home advantage is more about the field than about the audience. Audience mostly are a pressure while players doing practices on the field almost everyday are well aware of every slight angles and imperfections of the ground. They are much familiar to external factors like sun and the wind.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: carlisle1 on June 04, 2020, 09:29:02 AM


   If you didn't know I will tell you, for fans they say they are additional player to the team. If fans are crazy,
loud, if they support their team, if they bother opponents with loud yelling when they attack.
So what you mean here is having no Live audience is disadvantage?as if you can do something to reverse the situation?

why not just adopt about what is the set up now?you can demand that audience if available but now?either accept it or not but you have no choice.

Quote

   Some teams have so big support from fans and I think playing without audience will be a different experience
for some players, attackers! They have most support from fans, for whom they will play now and have special
dances after scoring a goal?

then tell me what can we do now?do we need to let people enter the stadium illegally so you can have your audience?

Man be realistic,this is life now and players must adopt or else they have nothing to win.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 04, 2020, 09:36:07 AM
With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.
A no-audience game will surely imposed with this games especially in NBA where they are starting to make new rules already and they are planning things already as they are planning to resume I think next month if I remember correctly. Well, I know that some players will be better if there are some audiences watching them but they can't do anything but to follow since we are in a pandemic right now.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?
I think the odds of it in the betting sites will be adjusted now that there are no homecourt advantage but not that much since it will still depend on how strong the teams are.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: DarkDays on June 04, 2020, 09:37:34 AM
I don't think it's necessarily all because of the audience.

Sure, having the entire audience against you can definitely be draining, while being cheered for is a huge motivation, but I think it's also the result of the way the games are judged on home turf. Teams playing on home turf seem to be more likely to get favorable decisions when issues arise mid-game. This can lead to opposition players being disqualified more, home team getting away with slight cheating etc.

That said, I do think the crowd is a huge aspect of it, so the gap might be closed if we don't have live audience games anymore.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Taskford on June 04, 2020, 10:38:38 AM
Provably there's still an impact regarding on playing on home court since you are familiarized on each corner on the court but this will not give any assurance for the team to win the game since it's all matter on the result and the team chemistry by playing as well the roosters health. But I wonder on how the teams adjust the non audience court since for sure its so different scenery to play without people cheering or mocking at you.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 04, 2020, 11:18:04 AM
Provably there's still an impact regarding on playing on home court since you are familiarized on each corner on the court but this will not give any assurance for the team to win the game since it's all matter on the result and the team chemistry by playing as well the roosters health. But I wonder on how the teams adjust the non audience court since for sure its so different scenery to play without people cheering or mocking at you.
Adjusting is not a problem to them, they know the situation beforehand, so they should be ready by it now.
They just like to play now for sure, without a fans, not a problem since they know that millions of people are watching them live on their television.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Bezobraznike on June 04, 2020, 11:56:16 AM


   If you didn't know I will tell you, for fans they say they are additional player to the team. If fans are crazy,
loud, if they support their team, if they bother opponents with loud yelling when they attack.
So what you mean here is having no Live audience is disadvantage?as if you can do something to reverse the situation?

why not just adopt about what is the set up now?you can demand that audience if available but now?either accept it or not but you have no choice.

Quote

   Some teams have so big support from fans and I think playing without audience will be a different experience
for some players, attackers! They have most support from fans, for whom they will play now and have special
dances after scoring a goal?

then tell me what can we do now?do we need to let people enter the stadium illegally so you can have your audience?

Man be realistic,this is life now and players must adopt or else they have nothing to win.

   We can't do anything Carlisle1, I agree with you! Don't get me wrong, I just thing that it will not be the
same, and that playing without audience will have effects on players and their performance! Audience is
making entire experience complete!
   And I don't suggest anything, things will get back to normal I hope, but until than we will have to watch
games with empty stadiums! And for making bets we need to consider that, maybe home team advantage
is really lost, and it will be like that until we get back to normal!


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: smyslov on June 04, 2020, 04:31:14 PM

   We can't do anything Carlisle1, I agree with you! Don't get me wrong, I just thing that it will not be the
same, and that playing without audience will have effects on players and their performance! Audience is
making entire experience complete!
   And I don't suggest anything, things will get back to normal I hope, but until than we will have to watch
games with empty stadiums! And for making bets we need to consider that, maybe home team advantage
is really lost, and it will be like that until we get back to normal!

It will be like an exhibition games without those audiences, I wonder what it would be like playing in a championship without the audiences, that will not be as excited like before they have audiences for these sporting events, this is going to be first time that it's going to happen and I would like to see how it will impact the team.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 04, 2020, 08:26:58 PM
I don't think it's necessarily all because of the audience.

Sure, having the entire audience against you can definitely be draining, while being cheered for is a huge motivation, but I think it's also the result of the way the games are judged on home turf. Teams playing on home turf seem to be more likely to get favorable decisions when issues arise mid-game. This can lead to opposition players being disqualified more, home team getting away with slight cheating etc.

That said, I do think the crowd is a huge aspect of it, so the gap might be closed if we don't have live audience games anymore.

+1

We can actually see that kind of favorable decisions situation but only on the slightest manner but you can actually spot it out if you are really watching NBA games
and do know on how violations or rules are implied.

Crowd might not really be that important for some but we know that they could at least give out some bumps or motivation on the said team into its home court
but doesnt mean that performance is majorly depending on it.

So i would say that advantages/disadvantages thing wont really be that an issue.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 04, 2020, 10:52:23 PM
So i would say that advantages/disadvantages thing wont really be that an issue.

There's only one way to find out, and that is by witnessing the games and we will evaluate once the playoffs is over and compare it to the past statistics based on what OP has posted. It's the first time that the NBA will play without crowd (correct me if I'm wrong), so we would not know.



Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ucy on June 05, 2020, 09:39:33 AM
Home advantage is more about the field than about the audience. Audience mostly are a pressure while players doing practices on the field almost everyday are well aware of every slight angles and imperfections of the ground. They are much familiar to external factors like sun and the wind.

Ofcourse! Weather plays an important role too.

I think it's combination of different factors that aid a home team... Factors like environment, field, weather, supporters, people, culture, community, etc. That's why players are made to acclimatize or adapt to their new environments.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: harizen on June 05, 2020, 05:22:52 PM

Interesting topic you brought here, especially that we can now witness a new normal scene in any of the sports events.

To answer generally the subject, "YES", being in a homecourt advantage is still an advantage. Not as hype as before as fans cheer really boost player's confidence (I've been in a live basketball game (PBA) several times here in our country and audience impact is really a big factor) but there's still habit that once you are playing at home, we feel energized.

I don't know the actual new setup for other sports but I will share my view in the NBA. In the NBA, there will be no home-away court since all teams will play in one venue. That's right, no travel, no audience (or less), etc. - all in one venue. In here, we can now remove the advantage of being in a homecourt and they just have to always play hard.



Browsing a few pages, I also read that one of the advantages of being in a homecourt is less travel.

Actually, that's not the case most of the time. If a home team came from away team, it's no difference at all, they will still travel going back to their home then vice-versa. The only time it will be an advantage to the team is, if they will play on a home team consecutively but that's not the case most of the time (basketball).


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: noormcs5 on June 06, 2020, 05:35:26 AM
The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience.

no live audience at home court but what about when teams are away ? still no audience ? depends on the country i guess  .

 if the country has a less case of virus , we can see audience  . let say if there are no audience on home court but the field is still memorized by the home team so its still an advantage for them to win the game  . crowd or audience are only secondary that can boost the game   .

Even if the matches are played without the crowd and public, there is still the advantage and pressure of home Court. The team who is playing at home has more pressure to win the game because if they lose the media will harass them for not playing good in the home country.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Japinat on June 06, 2020, 06:45:20 AM
Even if the matches are played without the crowd and public, there is still the advantage and pressure of home Court. The team who is playing at home has more pressure to win the game because if they lose the media will harass them for not playing good in the home country.

Well, that's the job of the media, they should get used to that, we are just talking of a home court advantage here, a shitty team will always lose no matter what advantage you will give to them, media is here to hype or criticize them because they are a public figure, they make money from the public so if that will pressure them, that would help a team to get better.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: traderethereum on June 06, 2020, 07:36:19 AM
It will be like an exhibition games without those audiences, I wonder what it would be like playing in a championship without the audiences, that will not be as excited like before they have audiences for these sporting events, this is going to be first time that it's going to happen and I would like to see how it will impact the team.
That will be no problem to watch the games without audiences because that will prevent people from the virus.
People will be safe at their home while they can watch the games with their family and doing other things.
I think the feeling will be different, but that is what necessary things that we can do in this pandemic.
We can not risk our lives to visit on that stadium to watch live games because we can get infected from other people who we don't know if they are a carrier or not.
That will be temporary situations while we still fight against the virus, and if the vaccine can get found, I think we can go to any place we want without worry.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: iv4n on June 06, 2020, 09:08:58 AM
For sure, without full stadiums and fans it will not be the same. But here we talk about professionals, they will play no matter what. With fans or without, on rain or snow, angry fans or peace, they will give their best, that makes them professionals! For sure some players like to have fans, but I am sure that some players hate it, all in all the quiet peace on the stadium will help some players with their concentration.
I will join here with some members who say that bad team will lose wherever they play, and good time will try to give their best in every game, home or away it's not matter.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on June 06, 2020, 11:31:20 AM
For sure, without full stadiums and fans it will not be the same.
Obviously because the situation now is different, remember covid-19 already infected over 2 million people all over the world.

But here we talk about professionals, they will play no matter what. With fans or without, on rain or snow, angry fans or peace, they will give their best, that makes them professionals! For sure some players like to have fans, but I am sure that some players hate it, all in all the quiet peace on the stadium will help some players with their concentration.
I will join here with some members who say that bad team will lose wherever they play, and good time will try to give their best in every game, home or away it's not matter.

They have a contract, they have to follow that, that's what professionals do, otherwise, their future will be compromise in a sport that they dream to play with when they are still not part of the league, if the organizer of the league will say they can play, it's almost assured that they are doing all the measures to protect their players against the virus. It might not be as fun as before, but in the current time, security is the main priority.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: adzino on June 06, 2020, 01:43:45 PM
Yeah, true. The stats speaks, team playing at home are always seem to have better chance to win than playing away. I guess it is because of those all psychological affect. They tend to perform better as the crowd cheers for them, being used to playing at the same court and referee being bias (its kinda true  ::)). So even without the crowd, the home team still be getting some advantage. I am talking about NBA over here.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: palle11 on June 06, 2020, 01:59:06 PM
I am talking about NBA over here.


Even in all sports apart from courts, there is what is called home advantage. Either the pitch gives the morale and advantage or the umpires do that either intentional too.
Advantage is there in the home., I have seen soccer teams winning because of home advantage from cheering from the spectators.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 09, 2020, 11:35:48 PM
I am talking about NBA over here.


Even in all sports apart from courts, there is what is called home advantage. Either the pitch gives the morale and advantage or the umpires do that either intentional too.
Advantage is there in the home., I have seen soccer teams winning because of home advantage from cheering from the spectators.

If this is for basketball or NBA, I think they will only play in one venue, so there's no home court advantage under that set up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I understand on the article below is that games will be played at Walt Disney World, so there's no home court advantage.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29256449/everything-know-nba-22-team-restart-walt-disney-world


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: harizen on June 09, 2020, 11:57:18 PM
If this is for basketball or NBA, I think they will only play in one venue, so there's no home court advantage under that set up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I understand on the article below is that games will be played at Walt Disney World, so there's no home court advantage.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29256449/everything-know-nba-22-team-restart-walt-disney-world

Yes, the NBA will be playing on one venue once resumed.

It can now be considered as no home-court advantage which I think I also mentioned on previous page.

We will see the setup once it resumed if this no home-court advantage can truly affect their performance. But knowing NBA players, with or without home-crowd they can still play at their best. Not really matters at all if they will play without their home-crowd.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 10, 2020, 11:20:47 PM
If this is for basketball or NBA, I think they will only play in one venue, so there's no home court advantage under that set up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I understand on the article below is that games will be played at Walt Disney World, so there's no home court advantage.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29256449/everything-know-nba-22-team-restart-walt-disney-world

Yes, the NBA will be playing on one venue once resumed.

It can now be considered as no home-court advantage which I think I also mentioned on previous page.

We will see the setup once it resumed if this no home-court advantage can truly affect their performance. But knowing NBA players, with or without home-crowd they can still play at their best. Not really matters at all if they will play without their home-crowd.

I think with the new set up, bettors will not gonna doubt betting on their favorite team since there is no home court advantage anymore.
The odds might also be adjusted, making heavily favorite a slight favorite only, which makes it more interesting as both sides can get the best odds when betting.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: STT on June 10, 2020, 11:32:19 PM
I wont count this as a factor until it shows up in the stats, a town thats not mine is still not going to be as familar and comforting as preparing for the game just before in somewhere I own.   The crowd is part of it but I dont think its the majority of why, no crowd at all can throw off the feeling and play of some is my first guess so its going to be a bit more random if anything.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: iTradeChips on June 11, 2020, 03:52:28 AM
If you come think of it, even if there is what we call a "home-court advantage", there is really no assurance that the home team will win, even if the statistics show they win most of the wins, there is still a small margin between the wins on a home court and wins outside of the home court. I still believe that the outcome of a match depends on how the players perform on the field, audience or no audience, the performance and the efficiency of the players would still be a key factor in winning a game or losing it.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 11, 2020, 09:42:59 PM
If you come think of it, even if there is what we call a "home-court advantage", there is really no assurance that the home team will win, even if the statistics show they win most of the wins, there is still a small margin between the wins on a home court and wins outside of the home court.
Advantage does not mean that a home team will win, they will only have the advantage but the better team will win as they have bigger advantage in overall factor, now that there is no home court, then the more they will lose if they are not a good team.

This is only similar to international games where a game is played in the same venue or a venue that teams are not familiar with.

I still believe that the outcome of a match depends on how the players perform on the field, audience or no audience, the performance and the efficiency of the players would still be a key factor in winning a game or losing it.

As always, crowd is just an additional factor though.  :)


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: cabron on June 11, 2020, 09:50:31 PM

Home court is always an advantage. The players who are used to the court are always going to perform well in the court. You know which sport is slippery and all. Just like we know every corner in our house. We know which to avoid so that we won't bump into something and this is also going to the players who are used to the home court. It doesn't matter whether there are cheers that will inspire the players because they know people are watching them on the screen.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Mahanton on June 11, 2020, 09:55:28 PM
If you come think of it, even if there is what we call a "home-court advantage", there is really no assurance that the home team will win, even if the statistics show they win most of the wins, there is still a small margin between the wins on a home court and wins outside of the home court. I still believe that the outcome of a match depends on how the players perform on the field, audience or no audience, the performance and the efficiency of the players would still be a key factor in winning a game or losing it.
You can really expect that there would be comparison between those numbers and even on a very small margin it can really prove out that teams/players which are on their homecourt do really have much
winning percentage.I agree on what said above that this is some sort of psychological aspect where it can really help a team or player to boost up their plays since they do know that there are lots of
people whom do support and cheer for them and now in the new normal where theres no audience then that would really give some odd situation even when you are playing on home but the game must
go on neither theres a crowd or not. Only best team wins and wont really rely if there are people around them or havent.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Nellayar on June 12, 2020, 03:56:18 AM
I made a simple research about home court advantages in NBA. It showed that 7021 games won in home and 4569 games they have lose in home court. Almost 60.6 percent is the win rate in home court during regular season.

If we are going to base in statistics, it showed that homecourt advantage is really a factor of winning the game.



Even in boxing, Jeff Horn defeated Manny Pacquaio in Australia. Why? Because of Homecourt Advantage. But then, Manny Pacman defeated Keith Thurman in his homecourt.

Now, if we will look at the factors when it comes in homecourt advantage. We conclude that it has factors in winning the game because:

1. Audience Impact
2. You are familiar with the place
3. You can prepare a lot of time in the court where will you play.

But then, the main reason why players win are detemination, eagerness to win and luck. There is no homecourt advantage for the player who wants to bring home the word "Victory"

Reference:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1520496-how-important-is-home-court-advantage-in-the-nba.amp.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1520496-how-important-is-home-court-advantage-in-the-nba.amp.html)


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: k@suy on June 12, 2020, 05:07:23 AM
I made a simple research about home court advantages in NBA. It showed that 7021 games won in home and 4569 games they have lose in home court. Almost 60.6 percent is the win rate in home court during regular season.

If we are going to base in statistics, it showed that homecourt advantage is really a factor of winning the game.



Even in boxing, Jeff Horn defeated Manny Pacquaio in Australia. Why? Because of Homecourt Advantage. But then, Manny Pacman defeated Keith Thurman in his homecourt.

Now, if we will look at the factors when it comes in homecourt advantage. We conclude that it has factors in winning the game because:

1. Audience Impact
2. You are familiar with the place
3. You can prepare a lot of time in the court where will you play.

But then, the main reason why players win are detemination, eagerness to win and luck. There is no homecourt advantage for the player who wants to bring home the word "Victory"

Reference:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1520496-how-important-is-home-court-advantage-in-the-nba.amp.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1520496-how-important-is-home-court-advantage-in-the-nba.amp.html)
Yep you're right. The court doesn't matter if the fighter has determination to win just like Manny Pacman Pacquiao, he can win his game and fight against other great boxers because he has determination and inspiration for bringing home the bacon and the audience impact, familiarity in the place and the preparation is just a secondary factors in winning a championship.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: robelneo on June 12, 2020, 09:23:17 AM

Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

The home-court advantage is a small factor in the performance of any team, management, and the team's motivation are the factors why a team will win in a game, now that matches are with no live audiences we can see the potential of the team on how they play even without the support of the crowds, we will see who are deep in talent and how the management encourage the team to win.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ucy on June 12, 2020, 09:52:08 AM

Home court is always an advantage. The players who are used to the court are always going to perform well in the court. You know which sport is slippery and all. Just like we know every corner in our house. We know which to avoid so that we won't bump into something and this is also going to the players who are used to the home court. It doesn't matter whether there are cheers that will inspire the players because they know people are watching them on the screen.

If you are too focused on your game, you probably won't often remember that people are watching from home or far from the stadium/court. The sounds and presence of fans could drive players to move or not move in certain ways/direction.
Some kinds of sports are better played without people and noise though . The reward is usually enough incentive.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Kasabus on June 12, 2020, 11:10:21 AM

Home court is always an advantage. The players who are used to the court are always going to perform well in the court. You know which sport is slippery and all. Just like we know every corner in our house. We know which to avoid so that we won't bump into something and this is also going to the players who are used to the home court. It doesn't matter whether there are cheers that will inspire the players because they know people are watching them on the screen.

If you are too focused on your game, you probably won't often remember that people are watching from home or far from the stadium/court. The sounds and presence of fans could drive players to move or not move in certain ways/direction.
Some kinds of sports are better played without people and noise though . The reward is usually enough incentive.


The home court advantage was an advantage because of the crowd and players sees them interact, and I don't think players are gonna think of whoever watching them in screen because it's a given reality that people are going to watch them in their TV and w are talking of millions of people. If the sports will resume, they will experience the new normal which they need to adjust, but we people who are watching in our TV, it's not a big deal anyway, we just enjoy because they are playing and we can bet at the same time.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: rodskee on June 12, 2020, 11:53:52 AM


If you are too focused on your game, you probably won't often remember that people are watching from home or far from the stadium/court. The sounds and presence of fans could drive players to move or not move in certain ways/direction.
Distractions can be created with huge noise coming from the fans who are cheering with the team that they are supporting,
from this view, home court advantages are very possible.
But with many events where professional players who are well trained from this kind of audiences they are no longer affected
as focused are always there once they've step inside the court / stadiums.

Some kinds of sports are better played without people and noise though . The reward is usually enough incentive.


Some games needs quite place not to be bothered by anyone, depends from player/s.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Taskford on June 12, 2020, 12:01:11 PM

Home court is always an advantage. The players who are used to the court are always going to perform well in the court. You know which sport is slippery and all. Just like we know every corner in our house. We know which to avoid so that we won't bump into something and this is also going to the players who are used to the home court. It doesn't matter whether there are cheers that will inspire the players because they know people are watching them on the screen.

If you are too focused on your game, you probably won't often remember that people are watching from home or far from the stadium/court. The sounds and presence of fans could drive players to move or not move in certain ways/direction.
Some kinds of sports are better played without people and noise though . The reward is usually enough incentive.


Nope mate even if you are focused still you will be bothered if the crowd chants bad on you, but since there's a quarantine and new normal has been implemented for sure they will be less stressed for the game but still I find the home court still an advantage since you still play the ambience that you are familiar and even if no crowd still you will feel comfortable playing at home.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: dimonstration on June 12, 2020, 12:05:19 PM
If you come think of it, even if there is what we call a "home-court advantage", there is really no assurance that the home team will win, even if the statistics show they win most of the wins, there is still a small margin between the wins on a home court and wins outside of the home court. I still believe that the outcome of a match depends on how the players perform on the field, audience or no audience, the performance and the efficiency of the players would still be a key factor in winning a game or losing it.
The only advantage of home court now is the comfort ability knowing that what you practised all happens within that premises or area. Even there's no audience but being comptable in the area will make our move smoother, thou it will really depend on the teams determination and how they really play. They will win as long as they will do what is needed and know how to manage their game whenever they are.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on June 12, 2020, 12:17:47 PM
They will get used to it and the best team will emrge now that there is no live audinces that sometimes annoy players when taking free shots or free throw, but it's still how the players react now that there are no audiences anymore, they must not think that it's like a practice or exbition and they must treat it as real games.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Kasabus on June 12, 2020, 12:20:06 PM
If you come think of it, even if there is what we call a "home-court advantage", there is really no assurance that the home team will win, even if the statistics show they win most of the wins, there is still a small margin between the wins on a home court and wins outside of the home court. I still believe that the outcome of a match depends on how the players perform on the field, audience or no audience, the performance and the efficiency of the players would still be a key factor in winning a game or losing it.
The only advantage of home court now is the comfort ability knowing that what you practised all happens within that premises or area. Even there's no audience but being comptable in the area will make our move smoother, thou it will really depend on the teams determination and how they really play. They will win as long as they will do what is needed and know how to manage their game whenever they are.
No, in NBA there's only one venue that is going to be used when the season will resume so they players will not travel from time to time and they can closely monitor the situation, I think the same goes with other sports, that is why there's no home court advantage.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: KrisAlex18 on June 12, 2020, 02:30:20 PM
I don't think so, home court is a really great advantage for the players because that us the place where they did their practice, so it's easy for them to do the things they have done on their practice. The crowd or the audience is just a bonus for them but it won't affect their performance in the game, the audience is just there to support and yell for them that motivates them to do more but actually for me, it would not affect them even though there are no people who will shout them during the game because if they really want to win the game they will do their best no matter what situation is.
Most players practice at their home court, they know the advantage and disadvantages of the court. I do not think non live audience will affect them in any ways. Playing in their home court automatically will boost their morale, having an audience is an added advantage.
Well said, that is why most of the player who has the home-court advantage is very organized on what they are doing, it would not be called as "home court advantage" if the place is not on their side.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Sadlife on June 12, 2020, 02:46:38 PM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: babygun on June 12, 2020, 02:54:19 PM


If you are too focused on your game, you probably won't often remember that people are watching from home or far from the stadium/court. The sounds and presence of fans could drive players to move or not move in certain ways/direction.
Distractions can be created with huge noise coming from the fans who are cheering with the team that they are supporting,
from this view, home court advantages are very possible.
But with many events where professional players who are well trained from this kind of audiences they are no longer affected
as focused are always there once they've step inside the court / stadiums.

Some kinds of sports are better played without people and noise though . The reward is usually enough incentive.


Some games needs quite place not to be bothered by anyone, depends from player/s.


Snooker is a sport that needs a quiet place but without any crowd it is just weird. There is also no real home advantage.
Playing without crowd can be good for some players but other players just excel when there is crowd (like Ronnie O Sullivan).


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on June 13, 2020, 01:34:41 PM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.

GSW is a good team, they have a very lively crowd as well but they are not a good team this season, so maybe we will can forget them for for a while and let Curry and Thompson fully recover from injury to bring back the old GSW whose been dominating the league for many seasons in the past.

Yes, there is no crowd anymore for NBA, and the crowd is one of the big advantage to make the players play an inspired basketball but we know what the situation is, we can't implement what is not anymore possible since it would only make the problem worst.

Get used to it, NBA players will still play while we gather in our respective home and enjoy watching a live games on TV.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Eugenar on June 13, 2020, 01:54:52 PM
Home court is still a good advantage of the player players even though there is no live audience because that place is where they did their practice so it's not hard for them to do the things whether they have done on their practice. There are many players who are really good while playing in their home court because they know what to do and they are comfortable while playing, the audience is an only bonus because they are the ones who are shouting and motivating the players but it won't affect the performance of the players even though there is no audience on the court.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: milewilda on June 13, 2020, 09:41:15 PM
Home court is still a good advantage of the player players even though there is no live audience because that place is where they did their practice so it's not hard for them to do the things whether they have done on their practice. There are many players who are really good while playing in their home court because they know what to do and they are comfortable while playing, the audience is an only bonus because they are the ones who are shouting and motivating the players but it won't affect the performance of the players even though there is no audience on the court.

This is true that there are some players who just excel in their home ground as compared to other palaces. In some of the sports where the audience may not play that bigger role it would not be real issue but in sports where the audiences cheer the players and the team may be effected by it as many times that boost changes the momentum in the game.
Its been proven out but numbers or percentage isnt really that big compared to the games that they are playing or not into their own homecourt.
I agree though that it do really have that impact into its players when it comes to boosting up their confidence or other similar feeling since they
do know that there are people around whom do mainly support them.


Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.
It do have PROS and CONS and we know on which one would be heavily impacted when it comes to pressure which is on the opposing team and give positive
boost up into the supported team which is common and thats what makes the sport event more interesting when we you do see a crowd.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Oceat on June 13, 2020, 10:58:18 PM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.
I can't imagine what kind of game that doesn't have an audience it seems like a practice game. I guess this is now the new normal until the vaccine is released. I agree that the crowd cheering may help the players to boost their fighting spirit especially if that is their homw court. A very big advantage but it seems that would not going to happen until this new normal ends.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: mirakal on June 13, 2020, 11:22:20 PM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.
I can't imagine what kind of game that doesn't have an audience it seems like a practice game. I guess this is now the new normal until the vaccine is released. I agree that the crowd cheering may help the players to boost their fighting spirit especially if that is their homw court. A very big advantage but it seems that would not going to happen until this new normal ends.

That's the new normal, something that we have to get used to while we are still under this covid-19 pandemic.
Don't expect that we can have the same experience before because it's really different now, it's even a blessing that soon we will once again enjoy watching our favorite games live in TV. For bettors like me, it's not really a big deal though, what's important is odds are available and I can bet.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: abel1337 on June 13, 2020, 11:38:50 PM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.
I can't imagine what kind of game that doesn't have an audience it seems like a practice game. I guess this is now the new normal until the vaccine is released. I agree that the crowd cheering may help the players to boost their fighting spirit especially if that is their homw court. A very big advantage but it seems that would not going to happen until this new normal ends.
It would probably like a practice game or a private game, This would be the new normal environment for the players. It is expected by the players that they would play with no fans in the event place for their own safety. I also think they are also mentally ready that they themselves will the only people who can cheer themselves and boost their fighting spirit to win the game. There are players who aren't really affected by the fans which are a neutralizing effect on them. Being on a homecourt with no live audience for me is the same as playing on the opponent's court without live-audience. Fans biased cheers are the one who has a really big effect on the team's homecourt.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Findingnemo on June 13, 2020, 11:47:30 PM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Genemind on June 14, 2020, 12:35:31 AM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.

Home court advantage can still be an advantage, if you are playing on the same court that you and your team had been practicing with it can still play a huge role when playing. It is true that audience impact plays a huge role when playing sports such as basketball, football, baseball and etc. but this is one of the adjustments that has to be done since the pandemic has started. I guess all sports events will resume with a limited audience in it or none at all.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 14, 2020, 12:47:27 AM
Yes the crowd cheering is one of the key factors to boost players fighting spirit especially if they're about to lose. We've seen it in NBA team like GSW but other team does not benefit from these because it puts pressure on a player to not let down their supporters.
Audiences boost up the morale of each player and their cheers can lift their spirit up when they are inside the court.

There are no advantages right now in the NBA with the new format that they released. The only advantage that I see on it is that if the number of players who are willing to play is low then that could be an advantage. Another one is that if the player has symptoms of the virus then he will be quarantined and will not play and that could be an advantage for the other team or worse, that could be a reason to stop the whole season too.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 14, 2020, 03:34:57 AM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.

Then the players need to familiarize themselves to play without an audience because this pandemic makes people stay at their homes. Some people will not risk going to places because they care about their health, and they also don't want to get infected from people they don't know. Perhaps the audience can give their support another way because they don't want to see their teams lose confidence without the audience. But perhaps, people will hope that they can visit the places and not have a problem following every protocol before they can enter the stadium.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Debonaire217 on June 14, 2020, 03:55:16 AM
IMO, the answer is still yes, because the audience is just one of the factors that boost the gameplay of a team especially if they are in their home court, and the other factor I see is the familiarization of the players to their court, which makes them believe and think that they can certainly win the game as their opponents will still adapt and adjust to the environment they have.

Though the pressure that the audience induces to the players will not be there, I think it could directly impact the performance of both teams negatively.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 14, 2020, 07:14:53 AM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.

Then the players need to familiarize themselves to play without an audience because this pandemic makes people stay at their homes. Some people will not risk going to places because they care about their health, and they also don't want to get infected from people they don't know. Perhaps the audience can give their support another way because they don't want to see their teams lose confidence without the audience. But perhaps, people will hope that they can visit the places and not have a problem following every protocol before they can enter the stadium.

I think players will have more focus on their game. Because the shouting of the audience, the pressure (if there's any) are factors that somehow affect their performance. If they are alone in the court, they can focus more on their game. I don't know what kind of effect will it be to the players having a silent background while playing. So we will not be talking home court advantage for the time being.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: JohnBitCo on June 14, 2020, 10:16:48 AM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.

Then the players need to familiarize themselves to play without an audience because this pandemic makes people stay at their homes. Some people will not risk going to places because they care about their health, and they also don't want to get infected from people they don't know. Perhaps the audience can give their support another way because they don't want to see their teams lose confidence without the audience. But perhaps, people will hope that they can visit the places and not have a problem following every protocol before they can enter the stadium.

I think players will have more focus on their game. Because the shouting of the audience, the pressure (if there's any) are factors that somehow affect their performance. If they are alone in the court, they can focus more on their game. I don't know what kind of effect will it be to the players having a silent background while playing. So we will not be talking home court advantage for the time being.

Most players used to get confidence from the crowd too. For example in tennis when you serve a good short, you are applauded by everyone and it  gives you some extra bit of confidence. If you perform good, having crowd to watch you give you more happy feeling. On the other hand if you are losing, you will want no one to watch that match.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: aioc on June 14, 2020, 12:17:02 PM
There will be no advantage anymore, it's up to the players to motivate himself, every player pick their momentum and motivation to the crowds but it's now different we are in a new normal and they should learn how to motivate themselves and comes out with a great game despite the absence of the crowd.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Findingnemo on June 14, 2020, 01:10:14 PM
The audience plays a huge role in any form of sport because player/s will get more confidence if there are more people to support them other than this the surface of the ground don't have much role to play to decide who is going to win except some kind of sports.In my opinion if there is no audience to cheer up the player then the same will become lifeless.

Then the players need to familiarize themselves to play without an audience because this pandemic makes people stay at their homes. Some people will not risk going to places because they care about their health, and they also don't want to get infected from people they don't know. Perhaps the audience can give their support another way because they don't want to see their teams lose confidence without the audience. But perhaps, people will hope that they can visit the places and not have a problem following every protocol before they can enter the stadium.
Yes, sports personals have to adapt to the situation if this pandemic get more longer without any solution.But for now, making people enter into the stadiums no matter after any kind of test because people has risk of getting infected by covid 19.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 14, 2020, 01:37:16 PM
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I think players will have more focus on their game. Because the shouting of the audience, the pressure (if there's any) are factors that somehow affect their performance. If they are alone in the court, they can focus more on their game. I don't know what kind of effect will it be to the players having a silent background while playing. So we will not be talking home court advantage for the time being.

Yes, that is right. Perhaps, they will lose shouting from the audience, but that is what happens now in the middle of this pandemic. The players will not be alone because the other players will have the same experience with them, and it is better they give the spectacular show to the audience at their home.

Perhaps, we don't know what is the effect because we are not in those places, but they lose the moment when their fans are yelling to give more spirit to them. But I am sure if the pandemic ends, they will have normal situations as before. Meanwhile, they need to enjoy what is going on in that place.

~snip~
Yes, sports personals have to adapt to the situation if this pandemic get more longer without any solution.But for now, making people enter into the stadiums no matter after any kind of test because people has risk of getting infected by covid 19.

Before people enter the stadiums, people need to be tested to make sure if they are really healthy because in the stadium will gather many people. Perhaps, the people will have social distancing in every chair so that can prevent the virus spreads too.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Oceat on June 14, 2020, 04:00:57 PM
-snip-

That's the new normal, something that we have to get used to while we are still under this covid-19 pandemic.
Don't expect that we can have the same experience before because it's really different now, it's even a blessing that soon we will once again enjoy watching our favorite games live in TV. For bettors like me, it's not really a big deal though, what's important is odds are available and I can bet.
Nah, there's always a different pleasure by watching it live in front of you vs watching it in TV. The crowd cheering, the fans yelling to their favorite team, you can feel the heat of their voices near you compared to the voice only in TV. It's really something that would boost someone's heart, but sadly, we will have to face this new normal since we are still under the threat of the pandemic. :-\


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: South Park on June 14, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
While there is no doubt that a live audience does have an effect on the away team and even the referees it is not the only one, to begin with the away team needs to travel and stay in a place foreign to them, they train in other installations and they are not close to their families and all of that will still be a factor without a live audience.

When it comes to the odds given by the casino I think they will have to lower the importance of home advantage on their calculations but this should be trivial for them.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: hahay on June 14, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
There will be no advantage anymore, it's up to the players to motivate himself, every player pick their momentum and motivation to the crowds but it's now different we are in a new normal and they should learn how to motivate themselves and comes out with a great game despite the absence of the crowd.
But it should be like that for professional players to be able to motivate themselves without having to depend on other people and / or spectators, as sometimes happens before when a team is being punished and some of them are about playing without an audience and they at least have experienced it and in NEW NORMAL times like this should not be a barrier for them or players to keep their spirits up in each match.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Findingnemo on June 14, 2020, 07:20:11 PM
Before people enter the stadiums, people need to be tested to make sure if they are really healthy because in the stadium will gather many people. Perhaps, the people will have social distancing in every chair so that can prevent the virus spreads too.
The time needed for the accurate results of COVID 19 takes more than 19 hours with the current technology we have and also cost for each test will be more than $100 so literally it is not possible.We can check them via thermal scanner which is fast but nowadays 90% of corona positive patients are asymptomatic so people can pass the thermal tests but can be a cause for the clusters.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ryker1 on June 14, 2020, 07:49:13 PM
There will be no advantage anymore, it's up to the players to motivate himself, every player pick their momentum and motivation to the crowds but it's now different we are in a new normal and they should learn how to motivate themselves and comes out with a great game despite the absence of the crowd.
Well, that is still debatable until now and someone big believer in the phenomena of home-court advantage or not, --but for me, it does not exist because it all matters to the players or in each team. But let us assume and if ever there is, perhaps does not matter on the audience, it matters how they practice by the home court that gives them motivate themselves against from their opponent. Perhaps, it is tough to determine how the team successful in home-court advantage, that can be attributed to the fans as a live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 14, 2020, 09:38:55 PM
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That's the new normal, something that we have to get used to while we are still under this covid-19 pandemic.
Don't expect that we can have the same experience before because it's really different now, it's even a blessing that soon we will once again enjoy watching our favorite games live in TV. For bettors like me, it's not really a big deal though, what's important is odds are available and I can bet.
Nah, there's always a different pleasure by watching it live in front of you vs watching it in TV. The crowd cheering, the fans yelling to their favorite team, you can feel the heat of their voices near you compared to the voice only in TV. It's really something that would boost someone's heart, but sadly, we will have to face this new normal since we are still under the threat of the pandemic. :-\
We wont really have any choice but to deal with the new normal that we are facing on because if we would force it out for these events to proceed then we do know the risk that it can cause.

We should really embrace the new normal and also even if you do refuse into yourself , you would still have any choice but to deal with this one since this is the new system now.

I agree that having real life audience is totally different compared to none, you can feel out the in game thrill via those cheers etc. and now we are on the different situation

which do really changed up everything.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: mirakal on June 14, 2020, 10:13:58 PM
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That's the new normal, something that we have to get used to while we are still under this covid-19 pandemic.
Don't expect that we can have the same experience before because it's really different now, it's even a blessing that soon we will once again enjoy watching our favorite games live in TV. For bettors like me, it's not really a big deal though, what's important is odds are available and I can bet.
Nah, there's always a different pleasure by watching it live in front of you vs watching it in TV. The crowd cheering, the fans yelling to their favorite team, you can feel the heat of their voices near you compared to the voice only in TV. It's really something that would boost someone's heart, but sadly, we will have to face this new normal since we are still under the threat of the pandemic. :-\
We wont really have any choice but to deal with the new normal that we are facing on because if we would force it out for these events to proceed then we do know the risk that it can cause.

We should really embrace the new normal and also even if you do refuse into yourself , you would still have any choice but to deal with this one since this is the new system now.

I agree that having real life audience is totally different compared to none, you can feel out the in game thrill via those cheers etc. and now we are on the different situation

which do really changed up everything.

We are left with no choice, the only option of the players now is just to play safely and play without a crowd, it's better than not seeing them at all.
I know they aren't happy with this too but that is their job and if they won't play they won't make money, also I believe that some wants to see a live action and be in the crowd but as for me, I am not used to going in the venue even before the pandemic but I am a constant bettor who bet regularly.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: samputin on June 15, 2020, 02:42:04 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home court advantage still exist.

1.  They are familiar with the place.
2.  They don't have to have a long trip for the match so they are kinda not stressed out due to the effect of long trip.
3.  There is no feeling of awkwardness or uneasy because as said, they are familiar with every corner of the court.  Feeling of awkwardness because of having no audience of course is an exemption.

Good point(s). I think, just by being in your own court gives you the edge. You usually practice there so you know where your good spot is. You know the place very well, that is familiarity.

Well, let's admit that the audience plays a huge factor in one's gameplay. But for the safety of everyone, the players should get used to play without a huge crowd. Besides, there's social media so they can still feel their fans' support before, during, and after the game.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 15, 2020, 02:57:19 AM
~snip~
The time needed for the accurate results of COVID 19 takes more than 19 hours with the current technology we have and also cost for each test will be more than $100 so literally it is not possible.We can check them via thermal scanner which is fast but nowadays 90% of corona positive patients are asymptomatic so people can pass the thermal tests but can be a cause for the clusters.

19 hours? That is almost a day. I hope that the results don't have wait too long so people can know the result as soon as possible, and the cost can be reduced. Checking via thermal scanner will not give any result except to know how hot your body.

We don't know who is the asymptomatic people which contain Covid-19 which visiting the stadium because the result can't come out fast. Perhaps, the promoter needs another way to prevent from the asymptomatic people because they don't want to miss that. Or the worst decision will be the game will no live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Chikito on June 15, 2020, 03:41:52 AM
The time needed for the accurate results of COVID 19 takes more than 19 hours with the current technology we have and also cost for each test will be more than $100 so literally it is not possible.We can check them via thermal scanner which is fast but nowadays 90% of corona positive patients are asymptomatic so people can pass the thermal tests but can be a cause for the clusters.
~
We don't know who is the asymptomatic people which contain Covid-19 which visiting the stadium because the result can't come out fast. Perhaps, the promoter needs another way to prevent from the asymptomatic people because they don't want to miss that. Or the worst decision will be the game will no live audience.
Some asymptomatic people have indications by hand and foot fingers like a red rash and swollen, almost like frostbite. Maybe the promoter also checking beside the temperature of the audience. it's just Another possibility to avoid new cluster on stadium. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/health/coronavirus-covid-toe.html
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/30/science/30VIRUS-COVIDTOE/merlin_172080117_c3a7b19b-1404-4a2c-abbd-e7f682113861-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: acroman08 on June 15, 2020, 04:55:24 AM
Home court Advantage is seen to have that passive result in the past before COVID-19 but at this time, I don't see any chances it contributed about since only a few were there to witness and shout. And that how could it change the aura of best players to dance on the floor without a single shout to hear but just only their teammates.

although the presence of the audience gives a lot of morale to the players. but, home-court advantage is not just about the audience. even without an audience playing in a competition in the same environment where you trained every day gives you an advantage. there is a lot of things that give a team an advantage when playing at their home court and losing the audience support doesn't negate the other existing home-court advantages.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: plvbob0070 on June 15, 2020, 05:52:38 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home court advantage still exist.

1.  They are familiar with the place.
2.  They don't have to have a long trip for the match so they are kinda not stressed out due to the effect of long trip.
3.  There is no feeling of awkwardness or uneasy because as said, they are familiar with every corner of the court.  Feeling of awkwardness because of having no audience of course is an exemption.

Good point(s). I think, just by being in your own court gives you the edge. You usually practice there so you know where your good spot is. You know the place very well, that is familiarity.

Well, let's admit that the audience plays a huge factor in one's gameplay. But for the safety of everyone, the players should get used to play without a huge crowd. Besides, there's social media so they can still feel their fans' support before, during, and after the game.
It's not only the audience that gives them a home-court advantage because there is still a lot of factors in that advantage. Now that making crowd is still not allowed, they should practice getting used to that vibe when playing with less cheer and noise from fans. It may be new for the players but that does not mean that they lost fans, fans will still be there supporting them but not just physically because of the pandemic.

As long as everyone is safe, that's what matters the most because the virus is a big threat to the health of everyone. There is still a home-court advantage, it's just that the advantage decreases because of the lack of fans. But players can still play well if they are in proper and good condition.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Genemind on June 15, 2020, 08:55:08 AM
What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Home court advantage still exist.

1.  They are familiar with the place.
2.  They don't have to have a long trip for the match so they are kinda not stressed out due to the effect of a long trip.
3.  There is no feeling of awkwardness or uneasy because as said, they are familiar with every corner of the court.  Feeling of awkwardness because of having no audience of course is an exemption.

Good point(s). I think, just by being in your own court gives you the edge. You usually practice there so you know where your good spot is. You know the place very well, that is familiarity.

Well, let's admit that the audience plays a huge factor in one's gameplay. But for the safety of everyone, the players should get used to playing without a huge crowd. Besides, there are social media so they can still feel their fans' support before, during, and after the game.
It's not only the audience that gives them a home-court advantage because there is still a lot of factors in that advantage. Now that making crowd is still not allowed, they should practice getting used to that vibe when playing with less cheer and noise from fans. It may be new for the players but that does not mean that they lost fans, fans will still be there supporting them but not just physically because of the pandemic.

As long as everyone is safe, that's what matters the most because the virus is a big threat to the health of everyone. There is still a home-court advantage, it's just that the advantage decreases because of the lack of fans. But players can still play well if they are in proper and good condition.

Having no audience at all is better than getting infected. Almost everyone needs to make an adjustment not just the sports industry, business, gambling and etc., everyone has to adjust to the new normal. I guess this is for the best instead of totally putting all sports event on hold, this will be the best alternative. We have no choice but to watch our favorite sports via live telecast. I don't mind watching sports on-screen than risking my health getting infected even with the precautionary measures.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 15, 2020, 09:23:07 AM
Some asymptomatic people have indications by hand and foot fingers like a red rash and swollen, almost like frostbite. Maybe the promoter also checking beside the temperature of the audience. it's just Another possibility to avoid new cluster on stadium. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/health/coronavirus-covid-toe.html
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/30/science/30VIRUS-COVIDTOE/merlin_172080117_c3a7b19b-1404-4a2c-abbd-e7f682113861-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

Perhaps, that can be a sign to found the infected people, but I think that is not the case for Covid-19 because the first thing the paramedic will check is the temperature which can the sign for Covid-19. Checking the temperature for every audience is a must, and if the paramedic found the audience will have a high temperature, they will forward to the next step to check with the other test.

Having no audience at all is better than getting infected. Almost everyone needs to make an adjustment not just the sports industry, business, gambling and etc., everyone has to adjust to the new normal. I guess this is for the best instead of totally putting all sports event on hold, this will be the best alternative. We have no choice but to watch our favorite sports via live telecast. I don't mind watching sports on-screen than risking my health getting infected even with the precautionary measures.

No audience will only work for temporary before we can found the vaccine. After we have the vaccine, I am sure that everything will be okay, and people can go to the stadium to watch their favourite teams play and win the game. It will be the best for all people right now at this pandemic, so we can avoid the next infect people which we don't know where it will happen.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Fredomago on June 15, 2020, 09:38:58 AM

Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage benefited a team.

Baseball (2018 Major League Baseball)
Home team won 1,277 games (52.6%)
Away team won 1,149 games (47.4%)

Basketball (2018-19 NBA Season)
Home team won 1,230 games (71%)
Away team won 501 games (29%)

Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

Yeah Audience is a big factor for every Game that happened in Home court but i believe that team will still win even there are no fans shouting and cheering each game like what they use to have.

I have been playing basketball for lifetime now and sometimes in our Court there are few fans that attending because the opponents mostly brings their big group yet we are winning you know why?Because Our heart is Field of dedication and focus that we need to win inside our court,i think these Players will have the same views whenever the game needs to happen because of no option now but to obey the rules of social distancing and no social groupings.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on June 15, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
Yeah Audience is a big factor for every Game that happened in Home court but i believe that team will still win even there are no fans shouting and cheering each game like what they use to have.
The better team will always win, home court advantage is not a factor anymore but prior to the pandemic it was a big factor that is why if different teams which are both good, the team that are playing in their home court will always be the favorites, that tells home court adds value to their chances of winning.

I have been playing basketball for lifetime now and sometimes in our Court there are few fans that attending because the opponents mostly brings their big group yet we are winning you know why?Because Our heart is Field of dedication and focus that we need to win inside our court,i think these Players will have the same views whenever the game needs to happen because of no option now but to obey the rules of social distancing and no social groupings.

As a player you can feel and experience it, so how much more in a major sports that a lot of fans attended in the venue rooting for the home team to win.
While playing at the home, it will increase their motivation to win, but as what I have said, now it's not a factor anymore.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: AniviaBtc on June 15, 2020, 11:35:23 AM
Home court Advantage is seen to have that passive result in the past before COVID-19 but at this time, I don't see any chances it contributed about since only a few were there to witness and shout. And that how could it change the aura of best players to dance on the floor without a single shout to hear but just only their teammates.

Staffs and players are only present in both teams and that's enough to cheer their squad. In this pandemic, you don't need a lot of audience for you to perform well, players should do their best no matter what happen so that they can win the match. No matter what sport it is, players should focus on the game and not on the homecourt advantage.

They should never rely on that advantage because it will help them become independent on the audience, but still perform their best. They should stop that mindset in sports in the midst of this pandemic because it is for their own safety to become far from the virus.

Players should always do their best and aim on the win or success and not on the fame.



Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: yazher on June 15, 2020, 02:00:45 PM
Now that they suspended live audiences except for the necessary people to attend. the players will play differently as they've never seen before. As the new season is approaching, I'm sure they can adapt to it after days of playing. lucky those who managed to reach this kind of game, although this is not the usual games we see each day, they will give their very best to the expectations of the viewers inside their home. Lastly, if the vaccine will be discovered later this year, everything will be back to normal again.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 16, 2020, 02:44:32 AM
Now that they suspended live audiences except for the necessary people to attend. the players will play differently as they've never seen before. As the new season is approaching, I'm sure they can adapt to it after days of playing. lucky those who managed to reach this kind of game, although this is not the usual games we see each day, they will give their very best to the expectations of the viewers inside their home. Lastly, if the vaccine will be discovered later this year, everything will be back to normal again.

This new season will be different, and if there is no audience at the stadium, that is for people safety from the virus so that they can watch the games at their home. For people themselves, they will feel different to watch the game at their home, but they could still yelling like what they do at the stadium. The player will need to stay focus on the game and try to give the best play that they can do to the audience at home. Before the vaccine can discover, the staff and the player at the stadium can use some protocols to protect them up from the virus.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Debonaire217 on June 16, 2020, 03:34:04 AM
This new season will be different, and if there is no audience at the stadium, that is for people safety from the virus so that they can watch the games at their home. For people themselves, they will feel different to watch the game at their home, but they could still yelling like what they do at the stadium.
So instead of them going to stadiums and risking themselves, it is good for them to watch in their home as an alternative. This means that the effects might be little for the audience but for the teams, I don't think they could play the same way especially if they already have the home-court advantage, without cheerings and applauses, they might feel demotivated.

The player will need to stay focus on the game and try to give the best play that they can do to the audience at home. Before the vaccine can discover, the staff and the player at the stadium can use some protocols to protect them up from the virus.

But for contact sports such as basketball and football, the best way to make sure that the spread of virus is low, they need to swab test every players and make sure their temperatures are fine.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 16, 2020, 03:55:07 AM
Now that they suspended live audiences except for the necessary people to attend. the players will play differently as they've never seen before. As the new season is approaching, I'm sure they can adapt to it after days of playing. lucky those who managed to reach this kind of game, although this is not the usual games we see each day, they will give their very best to the expectations of the viewers inside their home. Lastly, if the vaccine will be discovered later this year, everything will be back to normal again.

This new season will be different, and if there is no audience at the stadium, that is for people safety from the virus so that they can watch the games at their home. For people themselves, they will feel different to watch the game at their home, but they could still yelling like what they do at the stadium. The player will need to stay focus on the game and try to give the best play that they can do to the audience at home. Before the vaccine can discover, the staff and the player at the stadium can use some protocols to protect them up from the virus.
We wont really have any choice but to embrace that new normal.We might look to odd on yelling while we do watch but its is much better than to hold back on what you have felt towards the game.

We might not on the actual situation but at least we do still enjoy on the sports we are looking on.In talks of home court advantage then for players side this will give an

another feeling that they havent faced before.They get used to play when theres crowd but now theres none then theres no one to cheer up which do somewhat give out some boost
into their plays.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Fredomago on June 16, 2020, 08:22:00 AM
-Snip-
The better team will always win, home court advantage is not a factor anymore but prior to the pandemic it was a big factor that is why if different teams which are both good, the team that are playing in their home court will always be the favorites, that tells home court adds value to their chances of winning.

Which is correct, it's very usual that better team do win even they are not playing inside their homecourt, the only thing that fans helps is to boost the weaker homecourt team to play more harder.

-Snip-

As a player you can feel and experience it, so how much more in a major sports that a lot of fans attended in the venue rooting for the home team to win.
While playing at the home, it will increase their motivation to win, but as what I have said, now it's not a factor anymore.

Though chances still small but there's always chance to win especially if you are really keen to show to your fans that you are really giving them
the type of games that they are paying for.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Saint-loup on June 16, 2020, 10:09:40 AM
Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)
It seems there is an issue with those figures, you forgot to give the draw rate.
The topic is very interesting nonetheless, you're right, odds will be(must be) affected by this criterion, and bettors have to be aware about that.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Mauser on June 16, 2020, 10:42:27 AM
Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)
It seems there is an issue with those figures, you forgot to give the draw rate.
The topic is very interesting nonetheless, you're right, odds will be(must be) affected by this criterion, and bettors have to be aware about that.

The draws should just be the remaining numbers, i.e. 19% . Or am I missing something?

I don't think it's only the audience being the criterion for higher winnings on your home court. The players just feel more comfortable in their own environment, they know the stadiums, it's their usual locker rooms and they don't have to travel so far and sleeping in their own beds. I believe that even without the crowds present and cheering the home team should be winning more than during away games.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Findingnemo on June 16, 2020, 08:31:52 PM
The time needed for the accurate results of COVID 19 takes more than 19 hours with the current technology we have and also cost for each test will be more than $100 so literally it is not possible.We can check them via thermal scanner which is fast but nowadays 90% of corona positive patients are asymptomatic so people can pass the thermal tests but can be a cause for the clusters.
~
We don't know who is the asymptomatic people which contain Covid-19 which visiting the stadium because the result can't come out fast. Perhaps, the promoter needs another way to prevent from the asymptomatic people because they don't want to miss that. Or the worst decision will be the game will no live audience.
Some asymptomatic people have indications by hand and foot fingers like a red rash and swollen, almost like frostbite. Maybe the promoter also checking beside the temperature of the audience. it's just Another possibility to avoid new cluster on stadium. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/health/coronavirus-covid-toe.html
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/30/science/30VIRUS-COVIDTOE/merlin_172080117_c3a7b19b-1404-4a2c-abbd-e7f682113861-superJumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp
These kind of symptoms not happens with everyone so we can't use this as effective method to find asymptomatic patients.All we can do is to just play with no one or stop the games until there is a cure and perfect medicine for this.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 16, 2020, 09:32:11 PM
Now that they suspended live audiences except for the necessary people to attend. the players will play differently as they've never seen before. As the new season is approaching, I'm sure they can adapt to it after days of playing. lucky those who managed to reach this kind of game, although this is not the usual games we see each day, they will give their very best to the expectations of the viewers inside their home. Lastly, if the vaccine will be discovered later this year, everything will be back to normal again.

This new season will be different, and if there is no audience at the stadium, that is for people safety from the virus so that they can watch the games at their home. For people themselves, they will feel different to watch the game at their home, but they could still yelling like what they do at the stadium. The player will need to stay focus on the game and try to give the best play that they can do to the audience at home. Before the vaccine can discover, the staff and the player at the stadium can use some protocols to protect them up from the virus.
^ So, analytically speaking home court has an advantage and it does not matter on the audience. No live audience is really different but I think at that time players can focus on the match without worrying noise from the fans who were yelling at the stadium. How about those players yelling too in front of the audience after the dunk shot? Can they still yell on that even without an audience?
Nevertheless, there are too many changes after this new normal has been implemented and we have nothing to do is to adopt this than we will infected the virus and the transmission will quickly spread.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: harizen on June 16, 2020, 11:16:32 PM
No live audience is really different but I think at that time players can focus on the match without worrying noise from the fans who were yelling at the stadium.

Well for the home team, they can focus on the game even with that noise from fans. That's where their energy came from. Now with no-audience, I believed these players can still focus on their game as that's their profession. They are playing the game for several years and they are used to it so even with or without an audience, nothing will change to their performance. It's just that audience impact contributes to the winning factor but not actually a big deal. Surely, they will be used in that format as the game progress.

How about those players yelling too in front of the audience after the dunk shot? Can they still yell on that even without an audience?

That only happened if the team is on "Away" so not a big deal.

And besides, it's not always the case as the dunker yells on the player who tries to contest or defended him while he attempts to dunk, not on the audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: LbtalkL on June 16, 2020, 11:39:56 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 17, 2020, 02:36:40 AM
~snip~
So instead of them going to stadiums and risking themselves, it is good for them to watch in their home as an alternative. This means that the effects might be little for the audience but for the teams, I don't think they could play the same way especially if they already have the home-court advantage, without cheerings and applauses, they might feel demotivated.

The teams need to adapt to the current conditions, and they should keep motivated to give their best performance to the audience who watch them play. Their audience will know that their teams are trying hard to do that, and I am sure that the audience will give the best feedback for their teams.

~snip~

But for contact sports such as basketball and football, the best way to make sure that the spread of the virus is low, they need to swab test every player and make sure their temperatures are fine.

The swab test must be done before the match start, so the staff will make sure that everything is clean and under control. After they do that, the match can start without worry about the virus. I am sure the staff will do everything to clean out the field, the players, and all of the teams, including the staff itself to prevent the virus.

~snip~
We wont really have any choice but to embrace that new normal.We might look to odd on yelling while we do watch but its is much better than to hold back on what you have felt towards the game.

We might not on the actual situation but at least we do still enjoy on the sports we are looking on.In talks of home court advantage then for players side this will give another feeling that they havent faced before.They get used to play when theres crowd but now theres none then theres no one to cheer up which do somewhat give out some boost
into their plays.

We can still yell at our home with the other family member to support our teams, but yes, that will feels different than if we watch in the field.

Without home court, we will see pure skills from each team without any support from the audience. If each team can give their best performance, that will be another benefit because I am sure that the audience will be satisfied with watching them at home.

~snip~
^ So, analytically speaking home court has an advantage and it does not matter on the audience. No live audience is really different but I think at that time players can focus on the match without worrying noise from the fans who were yelling at the stadium. How about those players yelling too in front of the audience after the dunk shot? Can they still yell on that even without an audience?
Nevertheless, there are too many changes after this new normal has been implemented and we have nothing to do is to adopt this than we will infected the virus and the transmission will quickly spread.

With the focus, I am sure that they will be able to play without heart feeling or afraid if they lose because they will play all out until the match finish, and they will give their best performance. Perhaps, they can still hear the yelling from the other players who sit down at the bench. I am sure that someday we will have the time to get the normal match, and we will see the audience sit down at the stadium and watch their teams play.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Pamadar on June 17, 2020, 02:54:25 AM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Yeah the feeling of having too many people supporting you is always been a best thing home court advantage brings us but now that it is not allowed i'm sure there will always be changes in the players performances.
Hope that this will come back soon and the momentum will always push towards the owner of the court.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 17, 2020, 12:22:28 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Yeah the feeling of having too many people supporting you is always been a best thing home court advantage brings us but now that it is not allowed i'm sure there will always be changes in the players performances.
Hope that this will come back soon and the momentum will always push towards the owner of the court.

Let's get real here, we will not see a home court advantage soon as vaccine is not expected this year and that's the only solution for people to go out without a fear, right now, the government through their designated agencies are watching the sports events and they will ensure that they are complying with the protocol especially on the no crowd policy, so we are going to witness more games with no home court advantage.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Quidat on June 17, 2020, 11:16:28 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Yeah the feeling of having too many people supporting you is always been a best thing home court advantage brings us but now that it is not allowed i'm sure there will always be changes in the players performances.
Hope that this will come back soon and the momentum will always push towards the owner of the court.

Let's get real here, we will not see a home court advantage soon as vaccine is not expected this year and that's the only solution for people to go out without a fear, right now, the government through their designated agencies are watching the sports events and they will ensure that they are complying with the protocol especially on the no crowd policy, so we are going to witness more games with no home court advantage.
This is the new normal and we should deal with it as an audience.These organizations would really need to comply with the rules for them to be able to resume out.
Home court advantage cant really be seen now and i do agree that audience do really give some impact towards teams victory or performance.
I have seen boxing events that has no crowd and i can really tell the difference and how much more on a stadium on where basketball players do play
without any crowd noise? Its different but we do need to deal with it.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on June 18, 2020, 10:05:45 AM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.
Athletes get buffs from it.

But it's not like what we're thinking most of the time. In basketball, whenever the teams that we like are playing onto their home court. We feel that it's almost a sure win to them but it's not happening sometimes.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Shasha80 on June 18, 2020, 10:24:48 AM
Home-court advantage now has no advantage anymore. Now all sports with no live audience have difficulty winning matches at home.
Like the match results data in the opening post if playing home the winning percentage can be higher. Because the influence of live
audiences can create pressure on the teams that play away. But now the football match that took place, this week several teams that
played home suffered defeat, this has proven the importance of the live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ralle14 on June 18, 2020, 10:55:14 AM
Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)
It seems there is an issue with those figures, you forgot to give the draw rate.
With the percentages mentioned on the side we can confirm it's 19%. I guess it's because of how the point distribution works, some teams don't mind ending with a draw as long as they maintain their top spot.

Home-court advantage now has no advantage anymore. Now all sports with no live audience have difficulty winning matches at home.
Like the match results data in the opening post if playing home the winning percentage can be higher. Because the influence of live
audiences can create pressure on the teams that play away. But now the football match that took place, this week several teams that
played home suffered defeat, this has proven the importance of the live audience.
It's true that on the german league we see a lot of away teams winning more than usual but I don't think that's enough to say that overall away teams have better chances now than before because there are other factors that could still affect the match.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: LogitechMouse on June 18, 2020, 11:00:42 AM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.
Athletes get buffs from it.

But it's not like what we're thinking most of the time. In basketball, whenever the teams that we like are playing onto their home court. We feel that it's almost a sure win to them but it's not happening sometimes.
Playing within your own court really has an advantage but it doesn't mean that you will win automatically. Base on the statistics at the above part, 71% of the time home team wins and 29% of the time away wins.

Either way, players are adopted to a court where there are lots of people watching them play. Now they will adopt to a new normal where there are no audiences watching them. This will took a long time adopting the environment since they are playing with lots of audiences but now its the exact opposite of it. Right now with what is happening in the US, I don't know if most of them are ready to play inside the court already.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: arwin100 on June 18, 2020, 11:47:46 AM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Yeah the feeling of having too many people supporting you is always been a best thing home court advantage brings us but now that it is not allowed i'm sure there will always be changes in the players performances.
Hope that this will come back soon and the momentum will always push towards the owner of the court.

Let's get real here, we will not see a home court advantage soon as vaccine is not expected this year and that's the only solution for people to go out without a fear, right now, the government through their designated agencies are watching the sports events and they will ensure that they are complying with the protocol especially on the no crowd policy, so we are going to witness more games with no home court advantage.
This is the new normal and we should deal with it as an audience.These organizations would really need to comply with the rules for them to be able to resume out.
Home court advantage cant really be seen now and i do agree that audience do really give some impact towards teams victory or performance.
I have seen boxing events that has no crowd and i can really tell the difference and how much more on a stadium on where basketball players do play
without any crowd noise? Its different but we do need to deal with it.


It will be no matter if players will be focus on the goals but I think the game will be more different since there's no crazy crowds will clap or curse them for their playing style at that time so provably this will be equal, But although that would be the angle of plays still for sure the court familiarity will still show up since for sure you will get used to it when you are playing on your home court.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: bitbunnny on June 18, 2020, 12:01:17 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.
Athletes get buffs from it.

But it's not like what we're thinking most of the time. In basketball, whenever the teams that we like are playing onto their home court. We feel that it's almost a sure win to them but it's not happening sometimes.
Playing within your own court really has an advantage but it doesn't mean that you will win automatically. Base on the statistics at the above part, 71% of the time home team wins and 29% of the time away wins.

Either way, players are adopted to a court where there are lots of people watching them play. Now they will adopt to a new normal where there are no audiences watching them. This will took a long time adopting the environment since they are playing with lots of audiences but now its the exact opposite of it. Right now with what is happening in the US, I don't know if most of them are ready to play inside the court already.

Some say that there is no sense in playing sports without audience. I agree with that because what's the point if there is no crowd on stadiums, no fans, no cheering. That is what is sport all about and not results or money.
To be honest I don't like that new normal and I beleive that  it will take a long time to get used to it, if that ever happens.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Vaculin on June 18, 2020, 12:04:35 PM
It will be no matter if players will be focus on the goals but I think the game will be more different since there's no crazy crowds will clap or curse them for their playing style at that time so provably this will be equal, But although that would be the angle of plays still for sure the court familiarity will still show up since for sure you will get used to it when you are playing on your home court.

It will be equal, yes.. no other factor involve here and they are just playing in one venue.
That's why I've been longing for NBA to resume because I like to see them back in full action with no home court this playoffs.
it's a different playoffs and as a gambler, it's not hard to cap games as I don't need to analyze the home court advantage anymore.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: peter0425 on June 18, 2020, 12:33:39 PM
It will be no matter if players will be focus on the goals but I think the game will be more different since there's no crazy crowds will clap or curse them for their playing style at that time so provably this will be equal, But although that would be the angle of plays still for sure the court familiarity will still show up since for sure you will get used to it when you are playing on your home court.

It will be equal, yes.. no other factor involve here and they are just playing in one venue.
That's why I've been longing for NBA to resume because I like to see them back in full action with no home court this playoffs.
it's a different playoffs and as a gambler, it's not hard to cap games as I don't need to analyze the home court advantage anymore.

Nice example since in Basketball Homecourt advantage is always been a factor and as a basketball player i know this is for real.

Looking forward as this also ,No fans Booing the visitors and no wide screams to distract the visitors making scores.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Janation on June 18, 2020, 12:41:24 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Still, that changes everything.

No profits for the homecourt, some players are also wanting to hype the crowd, give pressure and taunt the crowd, there are these players that shows who they really are when they are in front of thousands of people since there are a lot of players that give it to the crowd.

Either it works or it doesn't, it is gloomy in there with just these players running back and forth to the court. Still, we can't really argue about it since it is for the players, the management, and the viewer's safety.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on June 18, 2020, 01:34:44 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.
Athletes get buffs from it.

But it's not like what we're thinking most of the time. In basketball, whenever the teams that we like are playing onto their home court. We feel that it's almost a sure win to them but it's not happening sometimes.
Playing within your own court really has an advantage but it doesn't mean that you will win automatically. Base on the statistics at the above part, 71% of the time home team wins and 29% of the time away wins.

Either way, players are adopted to a court where there are lots of people watching them play. Now they will adopt to a new normal where there are no audiences watching them. This will took a long time adopting the environment since they are playing with lots of audiences but now its the exact opposite of it. Right now with what is happening in the US, I don't know if most of them are ready to play inside the court already.
I'm mostly thinking about the favor of the crowds.

That's the biggest advantage that a team that plays on their home court. As for the new normal, they have to play if they want to but they are not oblige. They will get used to it sometime.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: semobo on June 18, 2020, 07:45:04 PM
Depends on the games mainly, but I don't see much difference between home team and away team if there is no cheer up from audience so it will keep the pressure down so everyone play their real game.And I don't think it is a good idea to bring visitors to the games for now especially when the second way is showing signs on many countries which could be more dangerous than the previous one.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: TimeTeller on June 18, 2020, 09:51:10 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.

Still, that changes everything.

No profits for the homecourt, some players are also wanting to hype the crowd, give pressure and taunt the crowd, there are these players that shows who they really are when they are in front of thousands of people since there are a lot of players that give it to the crowd.

Either it works or it doesn't, it is gloomy in there with just these players running back and forth to the court. Still, we can't really argue about it since it is for the players, the management, and the viewer's safety.

If nothing else, they can totally focus on their game.
I guess it is better to see their real performance without the audience.
The loud noise and everything, it somehow affects their performance.
Now, we will see what stats will give in terms of home team vs away team.
Does it really matter in the game?


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on June 19, 2020, 04:11:53 AM
Depends on the games mainly, but I don't see much difference between home team and away team if there is no cheer up from audience so it will keep the pressure down so everyone play their real game.And I don't think it is a good idea to bring visitors to the games for now especially when the second way is showing signs on many countries which could be more dangerous than the previous one.

We need to concern about the second wave that might happen anytime because people now become not serious about the current situations. If we cannot consider that, then it might be a chance for us to see the increase of the infected people.

But no matter what the sport is, as long as the sport is something play in the stadium, that can make many people want to watch directly. But in this situation, people need to consider not coming to the stadium before the sports event staff announces that they can handle everything in the stadium.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Yatsan on June 19, 2020, 06:14:04 AM
It's still an advantage! Yes the crowd is gone but the players will still have a advantage knowing that the court or stadium is what players are familiarize with. The advantage will not be same amount as before but still, the outcome of the game will still be depends on the players on how good they are. Home court advantage is just taking a very small percentage on winning outcome of every game.  :)


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on June 19, 2020, 11:47:57 AM
It's still an advantage! Yes the crowd is gone but the players will still have a advantage knowing that the court or stadium is what players are familiarize with. The advantage will not be same amount as before but still, the outcome of the game will still be depends on the players on how good they are. Home court advantage is just taking a very small percentage on winning outcome of every game.  :)
There's a big advantage knowing that a team will play on their side. However, it's real that the performance will still determine whoever will be the match-winner.

That's the belief of most of us when we're younger. The home court is equaled to win already but that's part of my wrong belief.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 19, 2020, 03:13:07 PM
It's still an advantage! Yes the crowd is gone but the players will still have a advantage knowing that the court or stadium is what players are familiarize with. The advantage will not be same amount as before but still, the outcome of the game will still be depends on the players on how good they are. Home court advantage is just taking a very small percentage on winning outcome of every game.  :)

They will not play in their home court, i don't know with other sports but for NBA, they will play in Disney World, Orlando when they resume next month.

Details : NBA Disney World rules revealed: Details of how the bubble will work as league plans to resume play in Orlando (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-disney-world-rules-revealed-details-of-how-the-bubble-will-work-as-league-plans-to-resume-play/)

So no one is familiar with this court.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: South Park on June 19, 2020, 05:04:52 PM
Crowds or audiences really make a difference sometimes, without it, you can't feel the excitement and pressure. But still, I guess there is a little advantage if you are being used to the court where you practice. This audience screams, cheers, or what, it won't work in some teams or players, they are trained physically and emotionally.
The effect of a live audience is not even throughout the game and it can be felt more strongly when there is a lot at stake, for example if in a soccer match the teams reach the penalty shoot-outs in that case the team that is at home or that has the bigger number of fans in a neutral place will have an advantage as the fans will able to exercise a lot of pressure to the disadvantaged team, this is really important as it is known that most players can score their penalty kick without too much problem during practice but the pressure of doing it in front of so many people plus the responsibility that comes with it makes players to fail more often than they should.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on June 19, 2020, 05:19:36 PM
It's still an advantage! Yes the crowd is gone but the players will still have a advantage knowing that the court or stadium is what players are familiarize with. The advantage will not be same amount as before but still, the outcome of the game will still be depends on the players on how good they are. Home court advantage is just taking a very small percentage on winning outcome of every game.  :)
There's a big advantage knowing that a team will play on their side. However, it's real that the performance will still determine whoever will be the match-winner.

That's the belief of most of us when we're younger. The home court is equaled to win already but that's part of my wrong belief.
We all know that psychological effect is also a factor in a competition, emotions are being considered too, it'll motivate and inspire you for the fans that's believing in you. Also, it's a shame if you lose on your own home, so it'll add spice and boost you up to make good gameplays. Everyone competing on sports tournament is a professional athlete, even a little factor like this, it still affects them.

It's not a belief tho, there's a statistic shows that home court will add a percentage on you winning the game. Then if you lose in a game, it means that you didn't make a lot of effort to win or it's just a bad day for you or there's a mismatch. 


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Timelord2067 on June 19, 2020, 09:43:15 PM
The Brisbane Broncos Rugby League team continue to be pounded into oblivion with their third defeat in as many weeks as the "home team" while playing under Covid No spectators conditions.  It'll be interesting to see what kind of results they put in now that a maximum of 2,000 spectators are allowed back into stadiums.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: panganib999 on June 20, 2020, 10:46:29 PM
I think even though there will be no live audience at the "new normal" set up of setting the live sports event just to make the postponed games make happen, home court will still took as an advantage because the psychological effect that knowing you were playing at your own court where you tend to spend most of your game plays and training will make you familiarize the place which is an advantage compared to playing on the opponent's place.

But that was just one factor affecting the result of the game. I think having the presence of live audience in the home court although it provides support do also provides pressure on the players due to crowd expectation that the home team will win the game. So I think it is better or best that sports event will take place on home courts even without the presence of live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Oasisman on June 20, 2020, 11:06:44 PM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 20, 2020, 11:22:27 PM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

Well, i agree to that and to think yourself as a player then you would really able to tell the difference playing on a place where theres crowd and if there's none.

As a player then you should really get used to it on where playing yourself at its best without minding the deafening silence around.This is the new normal and you should make yourself get used to it.

A few days ago where i do see boxing matches without no crowd where you can really say as a viewer that its somewhat boring to watch when theres no crowd interaction.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: mirakal on June 23, 2020, 06:07:15 AM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

Well, i agree to that and to think yourself as a player then you would really able to tell the difference playing on a place where theres crowd and if there's none.

As a player then you should really get used to it on where playing yourself at its best without minding the deafening silence around.This is the new normal and you should make yourself get used to it.

A few days ago where i do see boxing matches without no crowd where you can really say as a viewer that its somewhat boring to watch when theres no crowd interaction.

Not for me because I understand the situation, I would not look for a kind of fight like what we are seeing before the pandemic, if we can accept the reality are we really are a fan, I think somehow we can still enjoy watching the fight or the game live in TV.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 23, 2020, 10:24:56 PM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

Well, i agree to that and to think yourself as a player then you would really able to tell the difference playing on a place where theres crowd and if there's none.

As a player then you should really get used to it on where playing yourself at its best without minding the deafening silence around.This is the new normal and you should make yourself get used to it.

A few days ago where i do see boxing matches without no crowd where you can really say as a viewer that its somewhat boring to watch when theres no crowd interaction.

Not for me because I understand the situation, I would not look for a kind of fight like what we are seeing before the pandemic, if we can accept the reality are we really are a fan, I think somehow we can still enjoy watching the fight or the game live in TV.
You are right!

We dont have any choice even though its really odd but at least we are seeing the sports that we do love even if we are still on the pandemic situation.
we should appreciate into our favorite players that do still continue to give out entertainment even they do know that they do risk out their health
just for their fans globally.Home court advantage is no more but i dont see for it to be a big factor for players performance.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: harizen on June 23, 2020, 10:37:14 PM
A few days ago where i do see boxing matches without no crowd where you can really say as a viewer that its somewhat boring to watch when theres no crowd interaction.

Obviously, because we are not used to watching on that kind of setup, there are changes in our viewer's point of view.

Boring might it be to others but there's a reason why it turned out like that so in my case, that wouldn't be totally boring at all.

After all, we can expect that kind of setup for I think a year/s so soon everyone will be used to that.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: BuNga_cute on June 23, 2020, 10:48:42 PM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 24, 2020, 11:03:40 AM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: South Park on June 24, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

I do not know about that, in order to reach a professional league like the NBA you need not only to be incredibly talented and driven you need to also be very competitive, so I think regardless of the presence of the public the players are going to play with everything they have, however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on June 24, 2020, 11:40:33 PM
however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.

If I may ask, we are talking about the NBA game here, am I right?
Then there is not home court advantage for this league when they resume because it's not played in a usual court.

here's the venue

Quote
The 2019-20 restart is contingent on an agreement with The Walt Disney Company to use Walt Disney World Resort near Orlando, Fla., as a single site for a campus for all games, practices and housing for the remainder of the season.

https://www.nba.com/nba-returns-2020-faq


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: TheGreatPython on June 25, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
I personally feel that home advantage would differ from sport to sport basically because in a sport like cricket for example, the weather and the pitch is best suited for home team and no matter if crowd is there or not it would be more suitable for home team while in a sport like NBA where the only advantage it seems is crowd in such situations I believe the home team advantage would be significant reduced while still maintaining it by a thin margin because the away team has to travel and get used to with the place and psychologically players are used to of it because of playing for so many years.

Although like e-sports there is no home advantage or anything soon the sports would become like that too apart from a few sports like cricket where the actual pitch supports players and native/home team.

Speaking of cricket, I heard England vs West Indies cricket series will begin from 8th July so happy to see some real sports back along with UFC action ;).


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Twinkledoe on July 01, 2020, 06:42:49 PM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: dunfida on July 01, 2020, 09:19:33 PM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

There would be changes but it would really be just minimal and you're right where winning would always matter on players performance even though several factors
had been changed due to this current situation we are into but it doesnt mean that it will really be a big or major problem to them.Some might see this issue as a general
one but basing of numbers it wont really be that much yet players can play neither they are in home or away. People can just say that they are on advantage since
people or crowd do cheer up and help out some boost in terms of emotion but overall this is just too small to consider.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: imstillthebest on July 02, 2020, 06:08:06 AM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

There would be changes but it would really be just minimal and you're right where winning would always matter on players performance even though several factors
had been changed due to this current situation we are into but it doesnt mean that it will really be a big or major problem to them.Some might see this issue as a general
one but basing of numbers it wont really be that much yet players can play neither they are in home or away. People can just say that they are on advantage since
people or crowd do cheer up and help out some boost in terms of emotion but overall this is just too small to consider.

how do you know that the effect is small . are you a player before and you already play on different courts  ? we cant say the effect is minimal but you can it depends on the player  because not all player the same   . maybe some players audience is thier advantage but others avoid that mentality because they know that they can play on other courts too  . when you play on other courts , sometimes your supporters can go there because its too far away , same as playing with no audience  .


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 02, 2020, 01:27:23 PM
I've just watched the majority of the NRL Rugby League game Melbourne Storm Vs the Sydney Roosters - an electric game played in Brisbane at Lang Park (I know the area very well).  With the partial easing of Covid restrictions there were more than a few people in The Cauldron evenly spaced out in rows.  While Sydney is 1,000+ Klms away and Melbourne more than another 1,000 Klms again there was no "Home Court" advantage as such with the game going into Golden Point and finishing 27-25 after an increasingly electrifying second half.

Although the game was played in Queensland, the spectators cheering seemed to be evenly matched, so it was hard to tell one way or the other if there was any "home court advantage".


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: bitbunnny on July 02, 2020, 06:21:56 PM
I've just watched the majority of the NRL Rugby League game Melbourne Storm Vs the Sydney Roosters - an electric game played in Brisbane at Lang Park (I know the area very well).  With the partial easing of Covid restrictions there were more than a few people in The Cauldron evenly spaced out in rows.  While Sydney is 1,000+ Klms away and Melbourne more than another 1,000 Klms again there was no "Home Court" advantage as such with the game going into Golden Point and finishing 27-25 after an increasingly electrifying second half.

Although the game was played in Queensland, the spectators cheering seemed to be evenly matched, so it was hard to tell one way or the other if there was any "home court advantage".

Yes, that is hard to tell but on the other hand players are aware that there is no live audience so feeling isn't the same and thus sport doesn't have its full purpose
All kinds of sports also entered into this new normal but I'm not sure I like that. I hope that sooner or later we'lll get back to real normal, as it was before.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Timelord2067 on July 10, 2020, 11:04:54 AM
Yes, that is hard to tell but on the other hand players are aware that there is no live audience so feeling isn't the same and thus sport doesn't have its full purpose
All kinds of sports also entered into this new normal but I'm not sure I like that. I hope that sooner or later we'lll get back to real normal, as it was before.

The Brisbane Broncos Rugby League team have now lost six in a row even though they have the "home town" advantage against the southern teams that are billeted here in Queensland Hotels while Victoria is in lockdown.  It's quite likely that they are going to loose one, two or even three more games in a row.  I don't know any sites that I can put a bet on - they are playing the Sydney Bulldogs tomorrow night, so it's odds on the Broncos will loose.

(Lang Park is playing to 25% spectator capacity and I think there is talk of going up to 50% spectator capacity in the next few weeks)


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: peter0425 on July 10, 2020, 11:26:06 AM
Home court advantage is not gonna be an additional recipe to win for the NBA anymore once they resume. Because, the NBA is playing in a single facility in Orlando without the crowd of course.
Psychologically, the players will not get to used of a very silent and peaceful atmosphere inside the gym while playing at a high level. Thus, it will decrease the intensity and pressure in the game.

There's no denying the home court is somehow an advantage. What makes it more effective is the home crowd cheering for their home team.

I do not know about that, in order to reach a professional league like the NBA you need not only to be incredibly talented and driven you need to also be very competitive, so I think regardless of the presence of the public the players are going to play with everything they have, however it will be interesting to see how they adapt especially the teams that play at home since they will not have the public pushing them forward when they are down on the score.
Absolutely,NBA players are very distinct and they were chosen in Highly manners because the competition to enter the League is really extra ordinary.

Our countrymen tries more often to at least get inside but only few got the chance even that our country is one of the most competitive in terms of basketball.



But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Questat on July 10, 2020, 12:16:13 PM
But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .

It was not lessened, but it was completely eliminated as NBA is not played in a certain team's home court but it's played in a different venue which is in Walt Disney World in Orlando, and they will all share in the same venue. No more fans also as it's a close door match and fans can only watch them on live television.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 10, 2020, 12:24:42 PM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: erikoy on July 10, 2020, 01:40:48 PM
Yes of course, there is no a better place than home. This means that it is also applicable to every venue of a sports.  Support is very important in every game. This is a way to motivate players and to get more strength on the people rhat are believing in them especially in basketball.

This is why when it comes to betting I do believe that when a strong team plays in their court then betting on them would be at high advantage. I had been into betting in NBA and most of the time I win because my bet always on the winning team or the strong team.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Mahanton on July 10, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
It is true that playing at home court is no longer an advantage, because a pandemic situation requires matches without a live audience.
But this is not an obstacle for players to give the best game, then for me it is not a problem just watching sports on television. The most
important thing is i can watching sports again after quarantine.And of course i can play sports betting again.

For some team players, the audience can give them more power to provide the best performance. They will miss the shouting of the audience that always provide support to them, no matter if they win or lose because the fan or audience knows that they already play well. Yes, it is good to hear that sports can continue in this pandemic, but the staff at the stadium must be careful.

I wonder what stats will be released after this pandemic period regarding the home advantage among sports events. I think the results will not be significant as the performance depends on the player himself. Other factors are only in minimal impact regarding the final outcome.

We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

It would still takes time because  they wont give out statistics basing of on few games and percentage basis will be good to look at or be relevant if it would show same numbers on what being shown in op.I can  say that this isnt really that much of a concern because  if we do base up on their gaps when still is everything in normal then the difference isnt really that much  or only a small margin.Hence,
it wont really be that needed to be concerned about and even I doesnt really see for it be relevant.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: GDragon on July 10, 2020, 03:17:25 PM
But according to the topic?yeah the advantage of Homecourt is lessen now because of the Fans shouting for their team and BOOING for the opponent .

It was not lessened, but it was completely eliminated as NBA is not played in a certain team's home court but it's played in a different venue which is in Walt Disney World in Orlando, and they will all share in the same venue. No more fans also as it's a close door match and fans can only watch them on live television.

Agree that home court and support from the fans really boost the players before. Have you watch sports anime, some players suddenly becomes strong again because of a support from the audience lol. However, I also think that athletes can really play with their best even without it. They may not be familiar with it for the first few games but I think they will still continue giving their best this upcoming season. They all are playing in the same venue and will be comfortable with it after some games. I just hope no one will be infected throughout the season cause it can cancel the whole league again.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 10, 2020, 03:29:37 PM
Yes of course, there is no a better place than home. This means that it is also applicable to every venue of a sports.  Support is very important in every game. This is a way to motivate players and to get more strength on the people rhat are believing in them especially in basketball.

This is why when it comes to betting I do believe that when a strong team plays in their court then betting on them would be at high advantage. I had been into betting in NBA and most of the time I win because my bet always on the winning team or the strong team.
AFAIK, there's a new arrangement for the reopening of the NBA regarding the courts they will use.

--> https://www.cnet.com/news/nba-restart-everything-you-need-to-know-about-basketballs-2020-return/


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: adamistraybar on July 10, 2020, 04:01:05 PM
its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 11, 2020, 07:44:41 AM
We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

It would still takes time because  they wont give out statistics basing of on few games and percentage basis will be good to look at or be relevant if it would show same numbers on what being shown in op.I can  say that this isnt really that much of a concern because  if we do base up on their gaps when still is everything in normal then the difference isnt really that much  or only a small margin.Hence,
it wont really be that needed to be concerned about and even I doesnt really see for it be relevant.

If those data can be a good input, I think the staff will consider using for another review, or they can use another protocol that is not too strict as before because they can handle the situation at the stadium. Maybe it's only a small margin, but we still need to have as much data as we can to determine what step we need to take in this pandemic. The staff needs hard work to make sure everything goes well because that is related to people's lives.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on July 11, 2020, 07:49:47 AM
its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal
1. Travelling is always part of those teams that are visiting the home court of their opponent so I don't think that they feel sucks whenever they travel. Before, first of all, it's their job and they understand the give and take for homecourt for each team.
2. I don't understand this but they won't travel just exact before the game so they have time to rest.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: iTradeChips on July 11, 2020, 12:25:08 PM
I saw the strategy of La liga where they put virtual audience in the stands as a substitute for the a live audience. Well for me that is a strange tactic and if the main objective is to give a semblance of a normal match with fans and all then I would say I am not that convinced that it will give an impact because the players know that there are no fans in the stadium. If there are at least real people being projected then that might help but I am not sure if that is what it is so I can never tell. All I know is the mentality of the players knowing that there are no people present even if they hear the cheer voices and see the virtual audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Crypto22265 on July 11, 2020, 12:33:10 PM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Mahanton on July 12, 2020, 06:52:00 PM
We will see it later after the game ends, and maybe the staff will announce it about the result. If that result is good, that can make the sports game continue with having improvement in all sectors. And maybe they will allow people to come into the stadium to support their team because no matter what it is, the fan still needed to give support.

It would still takes time because  they wont give out statistics basing of on few games and percentage basis will be good to look at or be relevant if it would show same numbers on what being shown in op.I can  say that this isnt really that much of a concern because  if we do base up on their gaps when still is everything in normal then the difference isnt really that much  or only a small margin.Hence,
it wont really be that needed to be concerned about and even I doesnt really see for it be relevant.

If those data can be a good input, I think the staff will consider using for another review, or they can use another protocol that is not too strict as before because they can handle the situation at the stadium. Maybe it's only a small margin, but we still need to have as much data as we can to determine what step we need to take in this pandemic. The staff needs hard work to make sure everything goes well because that is related to people's lives.

I dont know on what you are trying to elaborate when it comes to home winning advantage connected to peoples lives.Of course, management would really matter much on the new protocol that they should need to follow and if it  do involves no crowd thing then they wont have any choice and also it doesnt connect out if the said team does really need crowd on this particular  time of pandemic yet we know the risk.
We are talking about winning chances of teams which are on home.Im little bit confused yet you already go to the topic about peoples lives yet it is already somehow far off on what we are talking.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 13, 2020, 08:55:13 AM
I dont know on what you are trying to elaborate when it comes to home winning advantage connected to peoples lives.Of course, management would really matter much on the new protocol that they should need to follow and if it  do involves no crowd thing then they wont have any choice and also it doesnt connect out if the said team does really need crowd on this particular  time of pandemic yet we know the risk.
We are talking about winning chances of teams which are on home.Im little bit confused yet you already go to the topic about peoples lives yet it is already somehow far off on what we are talking.

Okay, here is the thing.

Let say the event is succeeded with their first or second match. The staff already got the statistic, every data that is related to the game, including infection people (if it exists), every player's health (before and after the match), the audience (if the staff invite them to go to the stadium).

So when the staff has got all of the data, they can determine what they should do to the next match because the match will continue, but if the number of infections people's increases, they need to consider rescheduling the games. The audience will be an important thing that can support the player from closely. If the staff succeed in the first and second matches, they will consider inviting more people to the stadium, which will benefit the home. But if the staff worried about the pandemic and still want to use no audience, they can still do that.

I am sorry if you are confused ;D


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 13, 2020, 11:26:56 AM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
Home advantage.

You can say that as speculating that it doesn't really matter to them. As part of professionalism for athletes, they have to consider and stand firm even the crowd is going to be biased against them.

But for the home team, it's a big deal and it makes difference.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: ultrloa on July 13, 2020, 11:49:41 AM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
Home advantage.

You can say that as speculating that it doesn't really matter to them. As part of professionalism for athletes, they have to consider and stand firm even the crowd is going to be biased against them.

But for the home team, it's a big deal and it makes difference.

Somehow players will have familiarity especially if they always do their practice in the same venue it's still a confidence booster to play at home even if there's no live audiences but the impact is bit different since there's live fans will cheer at them but somehow it adds more excitement but let see if we will be entertained for that set up or we get bored for not having a real audience actions.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: peter0425 on July 13, 2020, 12:10:05 PM
its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal
But the intensity to beat the homecourt advantage is always the one thing that triggers the visitors skills.

Imagine now there are no audience and fans that will Shout for the team and booing the visitors?

This is always an advantage and now may become disadvantage at all.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Assface16678 on July 13, 2020, 12:12:52 PM
One of the popular game into the world is playing basketball which is a good thing because some of the player and team has a representative on their every country and if we are talking about the Basketball we have the NBA which most of the professional teams and players are representing their places. But now let's talk about the match of every game which we can tell for example is the Golden State versus Miami heat and we have the best of three matches which a team must have a two (2) wins either 2-0 or 2-1 so go up for the upper bracket and meet the other teams.

Playing in your home court is a good thing because the crowd is supporting you which is a good thing to do if you want to win the players that are representing your places and go up into the finals like the Golden states they are calling their stadium as the Roaracle Arena which is original as the Oracle Arena. By that they made a comeback on their game which is give them a lot of overwhelming to play more and win to their games.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: FanEagle on July 13, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
If support of audience in home ground makes any differences then obviously playing behind the locked doors even at home ground cannot be providing any significant advantages. But this is purely game dependent. There are sports where audience are not allowed to shout when the game is on-progress, for example, tennis; but in cricket, you can support your team at any time and home team is mostly finding the advantage while playing at their home soil. So, for cricket kind of soil/pitch dependent sport events where audience are not having any restriction to cheer up their team then definitely no-live audience events will have impacts.

But in modern day high skilled sport events, home ground advantages are being broken slowly still not in every sport, I agree. In near future, we are going to have only no-live audience game lone until vaccine for covid19 to be invented. So, how home ground advantage along with no-live audience will impact will be more interesting in any sport event overall. 


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Casdinyard on July 14, 2020, 01:37:13 PM
Live audience is a great factor to boost up the confidence and hype of the players residing on that court but there might be times playing alone can still feel better because if you deduct the existence of live audience, the pressure on the players that they must win because it is their home court and all their supporters are there would be lessen.

Home court advantage would still be an advantage because players are more familiarize into their own court since the drills and practice games are being held on their own territory so when live game comes on, they are already familiar and can move freely around the court. It is just a matter of support when live audience are there but the advantage of playing on your own court will give the best confidence for the player on the court.

In a new normal approach there are countries that put manikins in substitution of live audience to let the players feel they are still having a support so existence of live audience won't be a problem anymore. It will still be relying on the team players on how they will perform during the game using their home court advantage even without the presence of live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: harizen on July 14, 2020, 06:47:25 PM
1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

What if the HOME team just came as an AWAY team?

Travel shouldn't be a big deal. Not just because a HOME team will play on their home it means they won't literally come from traveling.



One of the popular game into the world is playing basketball which is a good thing because some of the player and team has a representative on their every country and if we are talking about the Basketball we have the NBA which most of the professional teams and players are representing their places. But now let's talk about the match of every game which we can tell for example is the Golden State versus Miami heat and we have the best of three matches which a team must have a two (2) wins either 2-0 or 2-1 so go up for the upper bracket and meet the other teams.

Just in case you missed, all NBA games staring from the remaining games of the current season > Playoffs > Finals will be done in one stadium.

Maintaining the bracket or spot for the purpose of home-court advantage isn't necessary anymore.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: bearexin on July 14, 2020, 07:44:41 PM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
If we are to trust the news the NBA is set to resume 30th July and the games will be played at a neutral venue so I think a lot of questions will be answered whether home court advantage was a big factor when some teams were doing good and actually neutral venues is the best possible venue for any sports but because home court/ground brings more viewers which makes it lucrative to host events in certain home advantage.

By the way as you said only small leagues are mainly affected by no-home advantage I would like to tell you that it also affects the best teams and highest level of players as I was watching EPL a few days ago and I never felt the same energy in players that used to be there when grounds were filled with spectators.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: dunfida on July 14, 2020, 09:50:16 PM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
If we are to trust the news the NBA is set to resume 30th July and the games will be played at a neutral venue so I think a lot of questions will be answered whether home court advantage was a big factor when some teams were doing good and actually neutral venues is the best possible venue for any sports but because home court/ground brings more viewers which makes it lucrative to host events in certain home advantage.

By the way as you said only small leagues are mainly affected by no-home advantage I would like to tell you that it also affects the best teams and highest level of players as I was watching EPL a few days ago and I never felt the same energy in players that used to be there when grounds were filled with spectators.


There would be noticeable changes not only on the venue that they are playing on but also into players performance when they do play out on a neutral venue or in home.
You would able to see the difference when it comes to performance but they would eventually able to overcome that and must be done of course because if they dont play
that much effectively then they do know the risk behind on getting removed out of the time.They would set out things into their mind that the show must go on
in spite on the new surrounding that they are dealing with.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 14, 2020, 09:52:57 PM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
Home advantage.

You can say that as speculating that it doesn't really matter to them. As part of professionalism for athletes, they have to consider and stand firm even the crowd is going to be biased against them.

But for the home team, it's a big deal and it makes difference.

Somehow players will have familiarity especially if they always do their practice in the same venue it's still a confidence booster to play at home even if there's no live audiences but the impact is bit different since there's live fans will cheer at them but somehow it adds more excitement but let see if we will be entertained for that set up or we get bored for not having a real audience actions.
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: freedomgo on July 14, 2020, 09:56:27 PM
For some teams hoke advantage is very important whule for others it makes no difference. I would say at the big stage, in top championships it shouldn't make much of a difference except if we are talking about small teams that really care about their fans support. Maybe only in second and third leagues the supporters are much more important when talking about home advantage
Home advantage.

You can say that as speculating that it doesn't really matter to them. As part of professionalism for athletes, they have to consider and stand firm even the crowd is going to be biased against them.

But for the home team, it's a big deal and it makes difference.

Somehow players will have familiarity especially if they always do their practice in the same venue it's still a confidence booster to play at home even if there's no live audiences but the impact is bit different since there's live fans will cheer at them but somehow it adds more excitement but let see if we will be entertained for that set up or we get bored for not having a real audience actions.
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 14, 2020, 11:04:19 PM
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on July 14, 2020, 11:09:18 PM
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: stomachgrowls on July 14, 2020, 11:48:57 PM
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.
Im having the same feelings towards this and instead of making out complaints then why we cant just appreciate on the things that  they are trying to accomplish on here?

They are indeed risking out themselves to have physical contact with other players just to give out entertainment to their fans and thats the most important thing.

Other factors might have changed but it can be adopted even though it would take for some time but it wont really matter that much as long these events do continue to resume out in spite on
the current condition we are into.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: TitanGEL on July 15, 2020, 02:08:18 AM
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.
There are a lot of bettors like us who are really excited to see that the NBA will have a comeback but for sure there are a lot of new strict rules in order to prevent the spreading of the virus in the court. It may affect the performance of every team but I will still make a bet because it is my previously hobby after all. During this quarantine, I just playing dice and slots and I'm pretty bored to do it. I think it is the time for me to bet again in live sports because the excitement and the feeling when I do it is really different.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: btc78 on July 15, 2020, 04:18:48 AM
its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal
1. Travelling is always part of those teams that are visiting the home court of their opponent so I don't think that they feel sucks whenever they travel. Before, first of all, it's their job and they understand the give and take for homecourt for each team.
2. I don't understand this but they won't travel just exact before the game so they have time to rest.
Travelling in some cases are exciting to other team because they will have a chance to prove to other team that they can beat others in thier own home court and now it is becoming more reality because there are no fans that will shout against them and this will give composure to the visiting team.

I remember when i am still playing basketball and visiting  other school for regional competition,the feeling is intense when you saw the crowd that will shout against your team lol.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Wexnident on July 15, 2020, 05:27:07 AM
Live audience is a great factor to boost up the confidence and hype of the players residing on that court but there might be times playing alone can still feel better because if you deduct the existence of live audience, the pressure on the players that they must win because it is their home court and all their supporters are there would be lessen.

Home court advantage would still be an advantage because players are more familiarize into their own court since the drills and practice games are being held on their own territory so when live game comes on, they are already familiar and can move freely around the court. It is just a matter of support when live audience are there but the advantage of playing on your own court will give the best confidence for the player on the court.

In a new normal approach there are countries that put manikins in substitution of live audience to let the players feel they are still having a support so existence of live audience won't be a problem anymore. It will still be relying on the team players on how they will perform during the game using their home court advantage even without the presence of live audience.
Well, the home court not only gives audience familiarity but rather the atmosphere. It's kind of a vague thing, but hell, players understand it well enough I suppose. It's basically the fear of going to somewhere unknown for others, while being at home for someone else. We're all afraid of the unknown, and players going to foreign courts to play could prove that they are pressured as such, whether there is an audience or not.
its still some advantgae

two more factors

1 is travel sucks and traveling too a new city to play always affects players even more usa because its so big

2 hoe players can rest and dont really care about being in same city as awlays they can relax and play more normal
Ask any professional player out there. If they think traveling sucks, they should probably quit already tbh. It's not a matter of it being big, players would only hate traveling if they were pushed against a stupid schedule, but if things were planned properly, traveling can even be a form of relaxation. Players are also given the time to adjust their mindset afaik. They give them some time to roam the city to adjust the "unknown city" mindset, making their mentality the same as being in the home court, or at least, making it as close as possible to that type of mindset.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: yazher on July 15, 2020, 06:34:02 AM
Travelling in some cases are exciting to other team because they will have a chance to prove to other team that they can beat others in thier own home court and now it is becoming more reality because there are no fans that will shout against them and this will give composure to the visiting team.

I think it's just the same whether they have some fans cheering for them or not. as long as they are on their home court, there will be some kind of at-home feeling and you can do all of your best because you know you're at home and safe. as for the visiting team, a huge difference for them because they won't be bothered by the fans because sometimes they lose their concentration because of the loud cheering of the fans. The banners that have some destructed memes can lose your concentration too.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: maydna on July 15, 2020, 06:51:00 AM
Travelling in some cases are exciting to other team because they will have a chance to prove to other team that they can beat others in thier own home court and now it is becoming more reality because there are no fans that will shout against them and this will give composure to the visiting team.

I remember when i am still playing basketball and visiting  other school for regional competition,the feeling is intense when you saw the crowd that will shout against your team lol.

If they visit another city, they need to play seriously, and sometimes they need to play hard to beat others in their own home court. But I am not sure what will happen in this pandemic because I think the opponent team will not have the audience. That can be beneficial for the teams from the other city because they don't have to hear shouting from the fans around at the stadium.

Perhaps, the crowd will reduce because the staff event wants to protect the people in the stadium, and they are still aware of the pandemic around them.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Reatim on July 15, 2020, 07:21:30 AM

Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage benefited a team.

Baseball (2018 Major League Baseball)
Home team won 1,277 games (52.6%)
Away team won 1,149 games (47.4%)

Basketball (2018-19 NBA Season)
Home team won 1,230 games (71%)
Away team won 501 games (29%)

Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?
according to the chart in Baseball there is small advantage because there is only 128wins/loss difference  Meaning it is not that big issue the Homecourt advantage.

THough in basketball and soccer this  is really matters.

But Yeah those fans are really counting the wins as the players are more confident and energetic seeing their friends and family around the benches.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: mezzaluna on July 15, 2020, 08:18:51 AM


Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Ucy on July 15, 2020, 08:44:38 AM
We don't have to choose and we have no choice but to be entertained with this setup.

I don't find myself to think if I'll be satisfied or not with this setup, we are in a global situation and don't choose if we will be or will not be entertained.

Let's give them a try, as for me, I am sure I would be happy once the games will return even with no home court advantage as personally I have seen a lot of games where not played in their home court but in just different venue, and that is from our local basketball league.
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.
Im having the same feelings towards this and instead of making out complaints then why we cant just appreciate on the things that  they are trying to accomplish on here?

They are indeed risking out themselves to have physical contact with other players just to give out entertainment to their fans and thats the most important thing.

Other factors might have changed but it can be adopted even though it would take for some time but it wont really matter that much as long these events do continue to resume out in spite on
the current condition we are into.

I wonder what the motivation to play and take the health risk really is... the rewards, just to really entertain their fans or both? I guess an interesting way to know for sure is to see if they will continue playing if no one is watching their games.
 It's OK to take such risk if it really to make people happy and entertained...and not for selfish reason.  Maybe quietly ask them if they will continue playing if everyone stops watching while money keeps coming.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Insanerman on July 15, 2020, 11:21:45 AM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?
Home courts will still be an advantage. Players on the home team spend much time playing on their homecourts. Ofcourse, they will get used into it. The homecourt advantage is not just because of the crowd that cheers for them and distracts the other team. It is also because of their familiarity on the court. The more that you are familiar to the court, the more chance for your team to make scores. Winning is still not guaranteed  ofcourse.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: freedomgo on July 15, 2020, 11:31:17 AM

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?
Home courts will still be an advantage. Players on the home team spend much time playing on their homecourts. Ofcourse, they will get used into it. The homecourt advantage is not just because of the crowd that cheers for them and distracts the other team. It is also because of their familiarity on the court. The more that you are familiar to the court, the more chance for your team to make scores. Winning is still not guaranteed  ofcourse.

I guess that is not happening now, for the sake of fairness, no teams will play on their home court or the other court, like the NBA, they will be playing in Orlando Florida at Walt Disney World, and no team has ever familiarize the place and no crowd as well, so that's the real definition of the no home court advantage, I am sure it could be the same format with other league as constant travelling is not advisable at the moment.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Savemore on July 15, 2020, 12:26:15 PM
Not only in NBA but majority of the sports are affected because there is no live audience so basically there is no home court advantage. The reason why it called it as home court advantage is simply it have audience supporting the team but now all of audience are gone and only the player and the referees are allowed in the court.

I still thinking what will be the approach of the NBA if they will now start to operating again. There are question in my head right now what if there is a player who tested positive and played with other team? will the NBA cancel the match ups again or if they will just continue it.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 15, 2020, 01:07:28 PM
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.
Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: bitbunnny on July 15, 2020, 01:12:10 PM
Not only in NBA but majority of the sports are affected because there is no live audience so basically there is no home court advantage. The reason why it called it as home court advantage is simply it have audience supporting the team but now all of audience are gone and only the player and the referees are allowed in the court.

I still thinking what will be the approach of the NBA if they will now start to operating again. There are question in my head right now what if there is a player who tested positive and played with other team? will the NBA cancel the match ups again or if they will just continue it.

There are so many questions without answers and decisions are made acvordingly to estimations that don't have actual clear rules. For example, in my country one football player was infected and that was revealed after the match with other team. They didn't cancel the rest of matches.
Anyway, it seems that situation in many countries is getting worse so it might be a long time before we see live audience in stadiums again. So, home court advantage doesn't make any difference anymore.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: glowing10 on July 15, 2020, 01:29:28 PM
It is what I'm saying. We have to give them a try, actually, we have to accept it that the setup is more like that this time.

We can adopt into this setup easily being an audience, we understand what we have lately.

If the players can adopt, there's no reason we can't adopt on it, they will enjoy what they are doing, we would also feel the same.

As for me, I am more excited for the games to come back especially NBA as I can start betting again.

I know it's not the usual type of game since we won't be seeing a crowd anymore, but man, as long as there's betting lines in my favorite sportsbook, I think I would not complain, and who am I to complain when they are trying give their best effort to give us an entertainment, and we don't even have to take the risk compared to the players who are having a contact with each other and could possibly get infected in a close space.
Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 16, 2020, 01:17:06 PM
Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.
It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: goinmerry on July 16, 2020, 09:11:41 PM
Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

That's correct. Even players will oppose to having fans watching live on the event.

As support, fans must always watch the game to contribute to stream ratings.

We will soon graduate at this new normal. Let's embrace for now all the changes we will see, not just in sports but for other industries as well.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: milewilda on July 16, 2020, 09:40:25 PM
Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.
It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.
As if we do have a choice? Wether we like it or not we would really still end up on watching in our own homes since this is the new protocol now on which there should be no crowd into these kind of events.
Players itself do understand on what situation we are into and its just too non-sense if they do just mind that much when it comes to home court advantage or some sort.They do know that it wont be
possible as of this moment so the thing here is that they do set up their minds to play into full extent in spite of the condition we are into.Also, performances doesnt majorly vary on audience existence
but rather into players skills and potential itself.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Insanerman on July 17, 2020, 08:43:04 AM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.
Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Kasabus on July 17, 2020, 10:04:57 AM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.
Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!
They have been doing that all the time, so these teams are already get used to it, it might affect them but not that much.
What I believe would really give the team a boost is the fans of the home team, they are the reasons why the home team are playing hard to win because they are inspired by their fans and they see the support, but for the opposite team, not really that much, although the boo can be heard inside the arena but they just play professionally and always stick with the game plan. Now, it's not fun but it's interesting to see games without a crowd.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: boyptc on July 17, 2020, 08:53:18 PM
Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.

That's correct. Even players will oppose to having fans watching live on the event.

As support, fans must always watch the game to contribute to stream ratings.

We will soon graduate at this new normal. Let's embrace for now all the changes we will see, not just in sports but for other industries as well.
I'll highlight those words!

I can't wait for that day.

But for now, yeah, we have to support them in the best that we can do just like watching their streams.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 17, 2020, 11:04:01 PM

I guess what mostly affects home-court advantages are only Baseball and Basketball since playing Soccer always feel like they are at their own home and its just a matter of confidence on which team are able to pull off some better tactics on how to play it on that field. Basketball is different since they can practice at their own courts which enables them to have sort of a better vibe on what to do on those spots which is the same for Baseball but not that much.

Soccer games are always plays on fields of grass and I guess they will surely feel the same as always and just depend on the audience to boost their morale since there are large arenas of them.
Actually I believe thar audience on the home courts always boost the morale of the home team, it is all the same whatever game they are playing. The cheers of the crowds make most of the home players comfortable, meanwhile the distractions made by the live audience against the players of the away team,most of the time makes them to feel and think differently in a negative way. Resulting them to lost focus on the game and more possibly lose the game. But not all players are affected by live audience. Some are really focused on the game and you can't distract them speciall if they are on fire!
They have been doing that all the time, so these teams are already get used to it, it might affect them but not that much.
What I believe would really give the team a boost is the fans of the home team, they are the reasons why the home team are playing hard to win because they are inspired by their fans and they see the support, but for the opposite team, not really that much, although the boo can be heard inside the arena but they just play professionally and always stick with the game plan. Now, it's not fun but it's interesting to see games without a crowd.
Home court still has an advantage, the vibe of the area is still there because it's your court and it still boosts you unlike playing on the other court. Still, the crowd's support has a big boost for those players and helping their minds to focus and win the game.

Actually, organizers are already making things like nba2k where we can hear the audience and crowd's cheers on the actual game even there's no live audience.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: GDragon on July 18, 2020, 08:12:10 AM
Yup.

The players are just doing it and adjusted quickly then as fans, we have no option but also to do the same. No complains needed yet just watch and support.

As a fan, the first thing is that we should be able to watch it our team or player playing the match. Secondly, its being four months of lockdown where not really seems any live events happening baring some so ideally any game to begin with precaution then even without audience will be fine as it is the need of the hour and had to played with the prescribed protocol. More than happy to see them on the playing mode.
It is totally fine to start their games without audiences. Them as players, they will also care for their audiences and fans.

We can support them while staying home.
Players itself do understand on what situation we are into and its just too non-sense if they do just mind that much when it comes to home court advantage or some sort.They do know that it wont be
possible as of this moment so the thing here is that they do set up their minds to play into full extent in spite of the condition we are into.Also, performances doesnt majorly vary on audience existence
but rather into players skills and potential itself.

Right, I think those pro players doesn't even worry about having no audience in the stadium. They work hard without no one watching, years spent training just to be good. I agree that audience really have an impact to the players, however those players are powerful still without their fans, they can really play the same without us. I also believe that a good athlete will be a good athlete wherever or whatever may be the consequence is. It may felt different at first, but I know they will be alright with it. They don't really have a choice so they will just do their best to do their job. I just hope that it will all be alright when the season starts.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on July 18, 2020, 08:37:04 AM
Actually, organizers are already making things like nba2k where we can hear the audience and crowd's cheers on the actual game even there's no live audience.

So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.

Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Debonaire217 on July 18, 2020, 09:26:15 AM
So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.
Perhaps, the players couldn't really hear what the announcer says, so it couldn't boost the gameplay of the teams just like what the audience can impact. Though, yes you are correct, good shout caster could really impact the entire game in terms of viewers.


Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.

I didn't heard that NBA will resume, I am sure they planned it so well and I hope a more strict measure should be implemented. If ever, I'll bet with my favorite team, Lakers.


Title: Re: Home Court advantage = Not an advantage now because of no-live audience?
Post by: Botnake on July 18, 2020, 09:44:14 AM
So it looks like we are living in the virtual world? haven't read about this one.
But anyway, even if there's no crowd as long as the announcer is not boring, we will still gonna enjoy watching it, what's important is they will play.
Perhaps, the players couldn't really hear what the announcer says, so it couldn't boost the gameplay of the teams just like what the audience can impact. Though, yes you are correct, good shout caster could really impact the entire game in terms of viewers.
We are gonna find out all these things mentioned, so everyone is really excited to see the NBA resume, it's not gonna be a long wait anyway as it will start soon. Actually morvillz7z mentioned a game before the official resumption of the season, so hopefully this is also televised.

I think some of the early lines we see now will undergo very significant changes/adjustments over the next 10 days.

Starting from 22 July teams will have 3 scrimmages to play, (almost all, if not all will be televised) they should give us (and bookies) a general idea of what to expect from teams, roster wise, team fitness, chemistry etc. I think for those interested in betting week 1 games, these scrimmages are a must-watch.

Full scrimmage schedule here: https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1279445379587739651

Glad to see this thread active again!  :)


Wait, wait.. it's less than 2 weeks now and the NBA will resume, have you guys already preparing to bet the first game, it's the Lakers vs Clippers per schedule so as an opening, that should be a great game, a possible last round match up in the West.

I didn't heard that NBA will resume, I am sure they planned it so well and I hope a more strict measure should be implemented. If ever, I'll bet with my favorite team, Lakers.

Well, I guess you are not a real fan of the NBA?  ;D

you can read this article - NBA to resume play on July 30 with 22 teams (https://www.aa.com.tr/en/sports/nba-to-resume-play-on-july-30-with-22-teams-/1907488)