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June 03, 2020, 10:58:59 AM
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I think this is just one factor though, but remember, games like NBA, top tier teams vs the lower one? Which you would you pick and beat without home court advantage? Obviously, it will still be the top team. Doesn't matter at all I guess, the team with the most wins have a higher chance of winning regardless if they are playing home court or not, just saying.

True but don't forget some disappointed are always recorded in any sporting event like this. For example in football, smaller teams always find a way to entertain and impress their fans which give them an extra motivation to outperform their opponent irrespective of what the attacking strength of their opponent.

Not much of a fan of NBA but from what I have read so far, the home advantage has a lot to do with teams winning games most especially the average teams and not the big teams per se.

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June 03, 2020, 11:08:01 AM
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I think this is just one factor though, but remember, games like NBA, top tier teams vs the lower one? Which you would you pick and beat without home court advantage? Obviously, it will still be the top team. Doesn't matter at all I guess, the team with the most wins have a higher chance of winning regardless if they are playing home court or not, just saying.

True but don't forget some disappointed are always recorded in any sporting event like this. For example in football, smaller teams always find a way to entertain and impress their fans which give them an extra motivation to outperform their opponent irrespective of what the attacking strength of their opponent.

True that for a smaller teams, it brings them more motivation to beat their opponent especially if the opponent is the larger/stronger one.  Since they have this need to prove themselves and bring them more sponsors and fans.

Not much of a fan of NBA but from what I have read so far, the home advantage has a lot to do with teams winning games most especially the average teams and not the big teams per se.

The home-court always gives an advantage to all teams whether they are small, an average of big teams.
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June 03, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
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Teams playing in their homecourt is really an advantage whether it is a game of basketball, baseball, football, etc. That is why they called it a homecourt advantage because players are getting hype up and motivated due to the cheer of their fans for them to show off and outperfom their opponents.

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June 03, 2020, 12:18:13 PM
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This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.

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June 03, 2020, 12:25:24 PM
Last edit: June 03, 2020, 12:37:54 PM by bitbollo
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Home-court advantage is one of the factors that some sports bettors are looking for picking a team alongside stats, match history, injuries, and current standings.

Not that the team with that advantage will win 100% but the psychological contribution of a live audience really boosts the morale of any players, at any sports, making it an effective recipe to win.

Looking at the home-away stats in the previous season at these leagues at different sports, we can see how being in a home advantage benefited a team.

Baseball (2018 Major League Baseball)
Home team won 1,277 games (52.6%)
Away team won 1,149 games (47.4%)

Basketball (2018-19 NBA Season)
Home team won 1,230 games (71%)
Away team won 501 games (29%)

Soccer (2018–19 Premier League)
Home team won 181 matches (47%)
Away team won 128 matches (34%)

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_advantage

With some sports likely to resume in next month or few, or being resumed recently, after being suspended or halted due to Covid-19 pandemic spread, one safety measure that will be imposed is a no-live-audience, literally playing without audience presence and we can see some sports already feel the experience of playing on that environment.

What do you think, does this home-court advantage, still an advantage now? Do you think Moneyline odds will now be different from now on especially if both teams are equal in strength?

it's always an advantage since home team doesn't need to relocate in another city (more relaxed).
Home team know perfectly the field condition (at least for sport played outside and not indoor).
Plus in football game, since you can change per rule the length of the football field between 90 to 120 meters (!) an home team could decide to adapt dimension of football field according the status of the players (likewise if player are exhausted from many matches they can just play in a "short" field).
I don't know if there is a similar rule also in other sports, but it's widely used by some team (and it's accepted by FIFA rules Wink )

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June 03, 2020, 12:31:12 PM
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This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.

Made me wonder what the Raptors will look like when playing at home right now, I think football is probably still enjoyable without the fans, but as for NBA with so many breaks and timeout moments for the fans, I can't say the same. However, it is what it is and I would rather have NBA game without the fan than no NBA at all.

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June 03, 2020, 12:41:34 PM
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This topic is timely, I realize now if the NBA will resume, there will be no home court advantage as it will be played without a fans.
It's good for the team who are below in the playoffs ranking, they will not get the home court but it doesn't matter, no fans so no problem, if in cause some people will debate that there is an advantage, well, maybe there is but a very little advantage.

Made me wonder what the Raptors will look like when playing at home right now, I think football is probably still enjoyable without the fans, but as for NBA with so many breaks and timeout moments for the fans, I can't say the same. However, it is what it is and I would rather have NBA game without the fan than no NBA at all.

Exactly, let's just enjoy what the NBA can give to us when they come back, there are only few games at the moment and as for me, I have been waiting for the NBA to resume so we can again start to cast our bet, the playoffs would be fun, I don't mind not seeing fans as long as I know analyze the games and I can bet accordingly.

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June 03, 2020, 12:51:02 PM
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Yeah that is the sad part of sports now,how can the home court owner took the advantage when there are no cheering for them?and their family and love once that seats in the bench?now they will play as if there are only limit of people inside the stadium and players don't use to this kind of way of playing.









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June 03, 2020, 01:28:06 PM
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yes, it is still an advantage, the home-court advantage doesn't solely rely on the audience. one major factor of homecourt advantage other than the audience is the familiarity of surrounding, place or venue etc.. which affects the player of both team mentally may it be small, big, positive or negative and being comfortable while you play will affect your entire performance in the game.

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June 03, 2020, 09:17:56 PM
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Obviously it is a big missing piece in any sports to not have your fans cheering for you when you are playing, however I do not believe that its the only thing. When the cheers becomes too loud the players obviously get affected by it, and that is why there is usually more losses that comes on the road and you win more at home, you get that fan support behind your back that helps you out. However you have to realize there is also travelling involved.

You get out of your house, meet with the club at your home court, they take you to a bus, you go to an airport with that bus, you take a flight to a new city, you get out of plane and go to another bus again, which takes you to a hotel instead of your home, you sleep there sometimes or maybe it is the day of the match when you arrive. All around its not really comfortable to be on the road, not just because of fans but in many reasons.

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June 03, 2020, 10:14:47 PM
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Guys, it's worse than nothing. The team directors are doing everything possible to make the return of sports to the courts a success.
We are living an atypical time, the players and the public know it. The public is key to giving more energy to the players and with that we all agree. However, I remain convinced that the players will give their best this season.

There should be an advantage for the team that is in better physical and emotional shape.


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June 03, 2020, 10:56:32 PM
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It's one missing piece but there area also some factors that add up to what we call "home court advantage."

First off, since players are practicing on these same courts for almost every day, they know so well the optimal position in which they can do their thing. Athletes do have a 'feel' on where they are playing, and it adds up to their optimal performance overall. To put up an example, take some tennis players with preferences to clay, grass, hard or carpet courts. They excel in some courts but not on other ones. It's the same as home court advantage, especially if you already developed that 'feel' on these certain courts.

We have to make do with what we have in order to proceed with sporting events. It was already allowed, and we don't want it to be revoked by forcing ourselves to watch live. It's the different feel and excitement still, especially if you're supporting your favorite teams or athletes on the stadium or at home.
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June 03, 2020, 11:40:32 PM
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Exactly, let's just enjoy what the NBA can give to us when they come back, there are only few games at the moment and as for me, I have been waiting for the NBA to resume so we can again start to cast our bet, the playoffs would be fun, I don't mind not seeing fans as long as I know analyze the games and I can bet accordingly.
Despite of the no home court advantage in the NBA the interesting part in their plan is the playoffs format more teams included because of the play in bracket. We could also see more upsets this playoffs now that lower seeded teams don't have to worry about top seed teams getting the first home match.

Yeah that is the sad part of sports now,how can the home court owner took the advantage when there are no cheering for them?and their family and love once that seats in the bench?now they will play as if there are only limit of people inside the stadium and players don't use to this kind of way of playing.
The environment isn't the same for the players and the fans but when it's the only option left for leagues to finish their season we just have to accept it.

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June 03, 2020, 11:47:35 PM
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NBA will not make it a dull tournament, though there will be no crowd but for sure they will put something in the crowd section to somehow let the home team feel they are playing at home, I don't know how they will do it but a Mannequin might might be put, with matching good sound effects during the break time or time out. We never know what's coming but I hope the management will make it a very fun arena despite of the limit options they can utilize.

I wonder what would be the odds then, looking forward for the playoffs to kick in soon, it's been a long time since we don't see some real action.
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June 03, 2020, 11:59:13 PM
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The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience. In my opinion, the excitement of the game will be even less.
Therefore, I really hope that the vaccine can be found soon, so that sports matches can return to normal. Although for now
we have to accept the fact that the vaccine hasn't been found, so it becomes a home court sports match without a live audience.

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I agree with you there were many advantages before in the case of sports matches But now due to the outbreak of the virus, the match is not as before and the audience has decreased Everyone is turning to the social distance to survive their virus. That's why the excitement of this game is very low and no one is going to the field and enjoying the game directly I don't think the vaccine for this virus will come out anymore So far no one was able to send in the perfect solution which is not strange No one will return to the game until the epidemic is over.

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June 04, 2020, 04:44:46 AM
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If anyone want to explore the vast idea of advantage on home turf then look at Cricket. In cricket home team exploit this feature ridiculously where pitches are prepared according to their skills and pitches play crucial part in Win-Loss. Once a while visiting team does outplay home team though.

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June 04, 2020, 05:01:10 AM
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The live audience is just one factor of home-court advantage imo. There's the fact that home-court gives players the edge to understanding the place. It's a kind of abstract feeling where they feel at home, thereby boosting their confidence. The audience is just one factor added in there. And also, if there's a positive feeling, there's also a negative feeling which is the visiting players. More specifically, I'm describing the concept of a foreign entity kind of like environment where you don't know where you are and the like. Not sure if it could serve as an example but you can think of it as a king visiting a foreign country for negotiation talks. Normally, the two kingdoms are fighting but since King A decided to visit, his sense of unbelonging inside the other kingdom brings about negative effects not only to his but also to his retainers.

Guys, it's worse than nothing. The team directors are doing everything possible to make the return of sports to the courts a success.
We are living an atypical time, the players and the public know it. The public is key to giving more energy to the players and with that we all agree. However, I remain convinced that the players will give their best this season.

There should be an advantage for the team that is in better physical and emotional shape.
It shouldn't really be called like that tbh. Everything possible means that we would even accept the minimum, but honestly, that's us audience. Remember that games are for the players themselves, for them to win, to enjoy the atmosphere, etc., so them pushing it forcefully can be good and bad, depending on how you look at it. But I'm on the side of us being lucky though since they are pushing for it after all.

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June 04, 2020, 05:31:42 AM
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The sporting events that are starting now will be different because of the CONVID19 pandemic, for matches held at home.
It is no longer an advantage, because there is no live audience.

no live audience at home court but what about when teams are away ? still no audience ? depends on the country i guess  .

 if the country has a less case of virus , we can see audience  . let say if there are no audience on home court but the field is still memorized by the home team so its still an advantage for them to win the game  . crowd or audience are only secondary that can boost the game   .
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June 04, 2020, 05:59:42 AM
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Honestly, even with no live audience, I think home court is still an advantage, just by less.
NBA had a consistent 55-65% win chance on home court, while it has now decreased to 52-55%, which is still an advantage.


Between a great team and a weak one, home-court advantage is just useless, but between a team who are even home-court advantage can have an impact, now that audiences are not allowed, it's fair between team without strength, it's better this way so these sporting events will continue without issues of audiences health concern.

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