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Hey guys ;)

Do you know what skill games are?

Skill games are casino slots where you are rewarded based on your ability to play a game.
In other words, the outcome is determined by your skills, rather than by chance.

Have you played these games?
If not and you want to know more about different skill games, please read our new blog post: What are skill games and how do they work? (https://bit.ly/3kn282x)

Let us know which ones do you prefer = traditional slots or skill games?

Thanks,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

In my opinion, Gambling is all about investing money in an addiction.
Investing in stocks or trading is by far the best skill game I can recall which requires patience, market knowledge and skills.

Other than that, it’s all about luck.
Good luck promoting gambling as skill.

I think that the only game where skill is a great determining factor of the outcome is the Poker games.There you have to be patient and if correct decisions are made by the player can result for the player some winnings to take home.It is the first time I see slots with skills so I don’t know what to say about them.

Skills games are really fun and its more challenging, well base on my experience playing online games like Dota but I haven't tried playing slots game that is based on your skills.

Most of the gambler prefer to play the traditional slots game, maybe some will try that skill games but they will still ended up playing the traditional slot games. I don't know but I don't trust myself that much on this kind of game maybe if I try many times and win some money, why not.

Mine was mostly local betting games.
I think I have played few skill-based and random-based betting games as a kid. The  games include  "throwing round object on wine" kind of game, Lottery, etc. I think I'd prefer the skill-based games, but will aswell go for the opposite if I don't have the skills for the skill-based games.

The skills games that I know are poker and other card games, sports betting. But I am curious about slots with skill because playing slots games don't require skills, and we could just click the rolls button, and the result will come out. Those images show us people play slots games, but I don't know if they use their skills to win. When it comes to skills games, I think I don't have any chance to win because I don't know much about playing the skills gambling games, and I feel I am difficult to win.

Skills game is loved by me, but major games in gambling are luck based just like slot, roulette etc. Here it’s more of luck that helps you winning the game. But some cards game does require the skills in order to win against the opponent and it is fun to play such types of games.

Skill based slots is kind of new trend and can be considered natural evolution of regular slot machines. Basically, skill based slot is a combination of standard slot and skill based mini game. You still rely on your luck and random number generator, but for your bonus game  you can choose either regular free spins or skill based game. The latter requires skill, reaction, concentration. Luck is not important here, if you are skilled enough, you may win more than by just spinning reels.

I don't mind playing some poker games or some Blackjack from time to time, to be honest it is not that I prefer one of them I prefer what I feel playing. When I am visiting an online site, I usually wanted to play blackjack or poker if I have a lot of time, if I don't usually I play roulette or most of the time dice. But usually, it is dice since it is fast and it can give me results fast.

I just voted for skill games. That is generally much better compared to traditional slots, although I admit that my type of gambling games changes according to my mood. Sometimes I just want to play without much thinking.

I'm a bit curious with those 3 skill games that you mentioned in your blog. I haven't tried playing any of those even once. I might drop by your site and try play them one of these days. For now, I am trying to distance a little from gambling.

Does slot games require skills? I don't think so, you only need a huge bankroll in order to get lukcy, and get a lucky combination. What truly requires skills, is poker and blackjack even sports betting needs knowledge and research, in order to have a winning chance.
This games would be the most suitable content for your blog regarding strategies and skills.

I agree I don't know how are you going to develop skill in a slot game, it's a random game just like a dice game you will be disappointed trying to win in these two games trying to develop skills that will not work in the long run it's better, that you consider this a luck game have some fun and accept the outcome.

Hi Bitcasino,

Thanks for opening up this thread. I know a lot of people don't prefer to play slot games because the winning of slot games usually depends on the luck. I personally am one of such people and I already had a Similar thread in bitcointalk.

I would love to bet on skill based games like 8-ball pool, clash Royale, PUBG, Carrom etc. I usually play such kind of games a lot but since no betting option available for such games, it's just for killing some time. It will be great if we can also bet on our own abilities!

I knew it now of what was this skill based slot as I was expecting the way it is since it's only a bonus game. For example the bonus was initiated and there's an option of what game you want to play on either it's shooting or racing you have to play on it to win, am I right?

Some may get confused by the word slot but I think this one is totally cool because if luck isn't with you on the traditional slot machine there's a chance you'll win more if you've got a bonus game that depends on skill. I think this will be lit to an online slot as well, I wonder if there's a thing like that already online as I haven't really stumbled upon that skill based slot.

What is this? they will give you some prizes if you managed to pass some levels? or you need to complete and finish the games? before acquiring some rewards?
These kinds of games should be fun but this is inside the casino so it means you need to pay to play. In that case, you won't gonna acquire some advanced skills unless you already run out of money to play. isn't it? therefor it's not really worth our time to play since the skills we got will likely not enough to beat the game or after we finally know some tricks, they will change the mechanics and install another games.

If this is the game, I will need skills to win since playing an 8-ball pool is not easy because I have already tried on my mobile phones and laptop. I need to predict where the balls will go by making many analyze if I shoot on the target ball. Still, I don't think that such games will easy to master because playing an 8-ball pool will different. PUBG is another game that I don't understand how to play, but I don't search for more details.

just what i thought  . the game on the pic is really a slot machine but it was on a different machine and not the usual one that i have seen before but at first i also think that its a pinball .

speaking of unusual slot , they are really exist and called skill based slot as how you named it  . thats so new to my ears and never knew that there are slot that pays based on our skill because i always thought that all slots are the same and all of them rely on luck .

Well, if the chance of winning will be based on your skill and not by your luck, then it isn't gambling anymore, it could be a sport since you have always a chance to win if you know that you have a great skill in a particular aspect. Though I see the picture posted by the OP that includes a slot-like machine, this could be the reason why it is still classified as gambling. I haven't really played or tried this kind of machine but if there will be, I think I could earn much in it. It might be just like playing a video game while earning money.

It seems to me that most people responded here confuse skill based slots with skill based games. Skill based game is a gambling game which require some prior experience, knowledge, mental and physical skills, etc. What is important here is that skill based game doesn't really rely on chance or random. An outcome depends almost purely on your skill. Examples of skill based games: poker, blackjack, betting, etc. Skill based slot can be thought of as a regular slot machine with minigame built in. It is a combination of game of chance and game of skill. Examples of skill based slots: https://blog.betway.com/casino/top-5-skill-based-slot-machines/

I am glad that I came across your reply. The confusion may be brought about by the fact that this is a new and unfamiliar concept to everyone. I also read some replies, asking how a skill based game be incorporated in a slot machine. Now here is the answer. I think that many would be entice with this new trend in gambling and I’ll be one of them.

Skill games are not just fun to play but also challenging to play, that's why you will never get bored playing. Also, skill games are more safer for me when it comes to your bet, rather that relying on your luck, relying on your skills is more assuring to make profits while having fun. It could be your source of income if you're really that good when it comes to analyzing how the games works, etc.

On the Traditional games, it's pretty old yet many people are still playing maybe because it brings back memories to them. Still, I would go for skill games.

old games is my type thats why i prefer them  . you know , there is that flashback vibe that i feel everytime i play them , that happens to me maybe because i spend most of time on those machines on my younger days . 

fun depends on the gambler and not depends on what mode of games they play  , because like me i already found my fun on traditional slot games .

This evoked curiosity of skill games casinos that are in your website, gamblers wants new games and you offered a lot of new skill-based games in your websites I'm sure people will want to try these skill-based games in your website, gamblers want to learn skill-based gambling  in their gambling time they want to be in control and they want to learn how to reach a high level where they can win continuously.

I think old games are easier to use and of course very easy to make a profit, because when playing a new game you have to adapt a new game to a new game and set a strategy that will definitely make it difficult for us a lot, it's better to continue the old game.

I use my skill in my real job, not for playing games. That's basically why I (and a massive number of older slot lovers) entertain ourselves with slots where we can simply drink, chill, and enjoy the fun animations and sounds. It can generate meme as well ;D

At the end of the day, it's just a taste. Haters will hate, and lovers will love. You can put any games that you can think of on the platform and let users choose. After some time, you will see what kind of games play a significant role in your bottom line. I'd guess 80:20 (80% for slots).

Personally, I prefer skill-based games because you have something to rely on which is your skills and ability, unlike luck-based, it's just luck. You can also practice improving your skills in a certain game but you can't do that if it's about luck. But the skill-based can be a wide variety of games, and I have not really tried playing the skill-based slot mentioned in the blog since I play other types of skill-based games, so I can't really say anything about this slot game that requires skill but maybe it would also be fun to try.

Curiosity and interest will bring gamblers to try this sets of skill base gambling. The more they focus playing the game the higher the chances that they'll be able to win, this is good marketing strategy to bring people to your site and allow them to enjoy while trying
to be the best from their chosen skill based gambling.

I think that many gamblers like skill based games, including me. It's a kind of challenge and you get a feeling that the final result depends on you after all and not only on luck. It's also a test for your skills and capabilities so I guess there will be a lot curious players interested. Just make sure to get the good promotion and some attractive offers.

In a similar way, I don't understand how to play poker. People have individual choices and preferences. I usually don't like to bet on my luck but if it comes to my own ability, I wouldn't mind betting on that! And 8-ball pool is an excellent game for such skill based betting, even Carrom is another great game for the same reason. But yes, PUBG is a little more complex from betting perspective!

What's the point about skill games if your partner Sportsbet.io keeps the winnings and returns the deposits as I have read many times on this forum.

Talking about games themselves, if you're playing against the casino in a machine game, you never know what's your RTP so almost always a bad idea.
There are already skill games in cards like blackjack.

After years in gambling this is the first time for me to hear about skill games are casino slots, where you are rewarded on your ability to play a game!!! Can you give me the example, or few of them, and the place where I can try this skill based casino slot!? I would like to give it a try (if I didn't already, but I just didn't know it's a skill based slot). Slots are slots, I don't think you need any skills for slot, except a huge bankroll (maybe you think of bankroll as a skill?) so you can play it and allow yourself to rise bet after some time of playing.
I will wait for your answer, I am curios to hear(read) more about skill based slots, and I will search on google to see more about this.

I doubt there are any casino games that are completely based on skills. I mean, if its player vs player games, then it makes sense. But if its against the house, there is no way a complete skill based game would exist since a "skilled" player would likely clear out the bankroll. Again, there are skill based games, but those games are also heavily depended on luck. No matter how much skilled you are at those games, if you are unlucky, you won't be making any profit. And I think people mostly like to play this kind of games which doesn't depend completely on skills but also depends on luck.

I'd prefer skill-based games any day over luck-based games solely because I think I have a better chance of winning something on such games rather than blindly betting against my chances. I enjoy playing dice, and I have been doing so for the last few years even though I haven't really won anything significant on the said game. It has been my pastime during my breaks though it would really be nice if I gamble and actually win something significant then I effectively converted my time into something that will net me money.

  Yeah I like it more than mini games but there is something in mini games on casino that will make you love it. Playing skill based games might vary from my mood, sometimes I don't feel like playing them coz I'm too dazed or some sort of, but I really love it especially Poker.

But to be honest you can show more of skills when playing physically which is the huge difference in playing with casinos online though there are interactive mode of playing, still it is immersive when playing in real.

I'll admit that this is the first time I heard about there are slots as "skill-games". Obviously, skill-games for me are those considered as strategy-based games wherein you aren't playing against the house e.g any Player vs Players games (either card games, virtual chess, virtual billiards), E-Sports, Sports betting, etc.

I've browsed those games you offer wherein "skill" can be used but not explored it deeply yet. Are those games originally created by your platform? I mean, do skills really can be an advantage for those?

An example is Hammer of Fortune, I play the fun mode but all I can see is the usual approach on slots - bet - tap - wait for the result.

How skills can be applied there?

Skill games would be much preferred in most time for my part rather than wasting up my money into those luck-based kind of games which you do know the odds on winning or chance of profit is totally depending on your luck which particularly talks or mention out on slot games and other similar ones.Unlike if you do play which you do know that you have an edge or advantage into a certain game then you would much prefer on playing
it but we know that there are people who are still fan on engaging on slots neither if they do play online or on a physical casino but i doubt that those would be just good for few rolls and afterwards they do
get easily bored.I dont find enjoyment on just pressing up that roll button or pulling down that lever when you do tend to roll.Its a matter of preference on most of the time but
there are instances that choices of games will vary in your own mood.

It will depend on one's ability of solving and analysing the game that makes it thrilling and fun still to play, but sure only few will play as many still prefers to play base on their chance and not by thinking or making it serious, it's still good for practicing of brains sometimes but I already set in mind that card games and sport betting much need skills in playing before betting while slots and some dice where just made for checking luck.

Poker without a doubt is the ultimate skill gambling game, while many think that chance is the main factor that does not help to explain why when you see the final table of the major poker tournaments you end up seeing the same people over and over again, this means there is skill in the game and for the most part this is the main factor to determine who wins and who losses.

Another game where skill is involved is sports betting, it is not easy but if you are an expert in a particular sport you can earn money with your bets and get a lot of entertainment in the process as making a little bit of money while your favourite team is playing can only enhance your fun.

I see in your article that those are casino games, is that a skill game? Haven't try those though. We are still playing on chances here compare to the usual skill-based.

There is no strategy at these slots games. The real skill-games do have a strategy to win.

Maybe at some point, it looks like a skill-games but technically, playing against the house is always a game of luck. What skills needed here is the ability to properly manage their bankroll to keep them alive in the long-run while trying to earn profits.

I thought that slot is purely luck based. Poker and sports betting for me are the skill based games. You really need to be skilled and wise in decision making for you to win with these games.

Luck is still found but more of how you'll play the game and being skilled through analysis and research for sports betting and in poker, how you'll read your enemy and how tough you are if ever you are a good bluffer.

Most of the people think that skill-based gambling is better since they think that there is a higher chance of winning, and I agree on that. Unlike roulette, slots and dice games where you just hope that you are lucky enough to win and the main thing that could impact your game is your bank roll. The more you have, the higher chance you can win.

Everyone has different tastes when it comes to gambling, and there is nothing wrong with the difference between
traditional slots and skill games.I myself prefer traditional slots to skill games, because I prefer gambling based on
chance. In my opinion, it is simpler and fun, even though the percentage of winning skill games is higher.

That is why we will see many people will choose what they think that the games will give them convenience and a comfortable feeling. When it comes to slots, I think some people like to play traditional slots, and they will not think much about the skills because they know that slots games will depend on the luck. But, some people can learn about skills gambling games will like and play those games because they think that games are challenging. But both games can give the same fun and makes people forget the time.

I tried the skill based slot games that was mentioned in the link and I have to say i'm impressed with the additional game mechanics but i'm kind of bias with the traditional slot games since they seem to offer better bonuses like getting a free play after one spin or getting second chances when you're one scatter away from triggering the free spin rounds.

The last game Candy wall was very interesting it reminds me of the old arcade games but the RTP is way too low(92%) compared to the traditional slot games that's usually somewhere (95%-96%).

I think that is great.

Skill-based games are so great for me because we are not basing the chances of us winning from the luck that we have. We based on the possibilities happening in the game, the statistics of the players or teams that we will be betting on, and the knowledge that we have on that game and on that match. I think skill-based is the game for those people that wanted to earn a lot from gambling.

Well they bring another sort of fun, but honestly, I'd rather much prefer luck-based games than skilled ones, especially when gambling. I can take the easy out of having no luck after all. Kidding aside though, leaving some things up to luck and waiting for a winning result is a lot more enjoyable since no matter how many repetitions you do, it'd still have the same flavor. Skill-based games on the other hand, dependent on the one playing of course, could become boring once you're a master on it. It's like a finite based game vs an infinite based one (ofc this is just a comparison, not describing the games itself)


Well, Poker is a game where both luck and skill is taken into account, but it still has that luck factor, hence why it's still a popular game. Imagine getting a royal flush, no matter how skilled you are, you can't really beat that.

Gambling = luck so going with the traditional slots looks better to me and I will choose it over the skill based slots.Contrary on the other side if it is skill game I will call poker as the real skill based gambling game where people uses lot of techniques to beat the opponents not to win the game so they literally can win it.

Is investing in stocks and trading gambling?I ask because I think Not all risk taking is gambling, all gambling may be risky.
The skill game they are referring to in the opening context still mean a game you develop and personally rate your ability,knowledge and accuracy in, when you play consistently, apart from the fact that they are naturally enjoyable, you can keep attaining expertise each time you play. Not like those one that the computer plays for you or dice.

The offer or better the availability of alternatives not only opens a range of possibilities for frequent players, if not also for those who have just arrived, who want to test their skills not only in handling bets, hoping that the calculated factor will burst into a fabulous prize

I think, than traditional slots They have their secrets to winning, but the result of winning or losing in the process makes them perhaps very exciting but simple in the betting process, in fact it can become repetitive, but this process of being repetitive and simple in the bet is what in essence makes them so popular.

So, in conclusion it does not matter how many bets are made, we are only interested in the result, which is unalterable, you win or lose, then simply another bet.

In skills games, there is an intuitive factor, there are readings, there are details that you incorporate with each play, that is, you gain experience in each round of the game and it is not so much about winning and losing, which in essence it is goal... but unlike the traditional game, in skill games you can influence the process to the end result.

Then, if you are really good, the losses add experience to your skills, you may be able to determine what to do differently next time. .

So the point is know what is best for our type of game and personality, and add the have fun betting.

Hi iv4n,

Traditional slots and skill-based gaming machines both use RNG-s to determine the return to player. In traditional slots, you make a bet, spin the reels and wait for the outcome. Easy and fun :)
But with skill-based slots, you can boost your payout. The control over your outcome is generally applied during bonus rounds.

Here at Bitcasino, we offer skill-based slots from Green Jade game provider.
Here are the skill games you can try out:
Hammer of Fortune (https://bitcasino.io/casino/skill-games/hammer-of-fortune)
Jade Puzzle (https://bitcasino.io/casino/skill-games/jade-puzzle)
Candy Wall (https://bitcasino.io/casino/skill-games/candy-wall)



Hi harizen,

The skill games on our site are offered by game provider Green Jade. You can check all the games from this provider here (https://bitcasino.io/categories/video-slots?providers=greenjade).
Also, we have a great and thorough article about How to play Hammer of Fortune (https://bitcasino.io/blog/slots/hammer-of-fortune). Did you have time to read it?

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

And chances to win is very high compare to traditional way of gambling . Having skills is much more secure way of playing your money while enjoying it and that's not bad strategy that you can use since more of gambling game is only base on luck once you base it in skills you are able to win much larger.

Well, to be fair, gambling is gambling, and it doesn't really matter weather its skill based or slot based.
But on the other hand, if I was to go for one, I did vote for skill based over slot cus i believe that if you have the skill and very good at it, your chances of winning is very higher compared to slot based which winning is 100 percent by luck or chance.

interesting. it's weird that it's my first time hearing about it.

I haven't played it yet and did a little research about it, it looks a lot like an arcade game(which is a huge thumbs up for me)

basing on what I have seen on me little research I would probably prefer skill games over traditional ones since I am a huge fan video games and I love skill based games.


I don't think they are advertising about gambling being as a skill but advertising a skill-based slot machine etc..

I haven't heard some skill based games on casino, does that even exist? if so maybe i may haven't played it yet all skill games I know that is related to gambling is something like Esports where you will need to use some skills and strategy and team coordination.

I like slots mostly when playing with other you can drink while playing. The Las Vegas atmosphere with floors full of slot machines and many people playing is awesome. Playing slots at home is not so interesting for me. I do it from time to time but not very long. Skill based games are just more rewarding, sure you need to concentrate but it is more fun. When playing online I would always prefer skill games to slots.

Skill games are quite unique and I am not so sure if it will become that popular as many gamblers or players didn't have some skills that they can be use to this
skill games and I am one of it.

I like gambling and I prefer Traditional slots rather than skill games. Though people who thinks that they have what it takes to win the skill games will surely to try
it will continue to use it if they can see that their winning percentage is good.

Is the first time i read about skill games, but i don't like at all how it sounds. If it's based in the skills then the code can the big bets lose and the small ones win, but taking always the house edge in advantage. This doesn't sound provably fair to me, that's why i prefer the classical slots.

Is there any skill games site for bitcoin?

first of all, I am not sure if you read my feedback before.
but, now your blog and site can be accessed from my country (Indonesia).
or maybe because I use my mobile phone network provider.
thank you for that.

I never heard about skill games before.
In my mind, betting is only about chances and lucks.
however, that 3 games you mentioned in the post is a computerized games.
so, the AI can still trick us IMO.
CMIIW.

Not sure if "skill games" is the correct term to explain this type of slot. It only adds a bit "interactive" element in it. This kind of game has a similar concept to the video poker machine, but much easier.

Anyways, I like the Hammer of Fortune's concept (only fun mode, though)! I hope Green Jade can continue to innovate. If the RTP can be slightly higher, let's say 96.5%, and they can polish the graphics, this game is actually "playable." I mean, they compete with the big providers, so at least the RTP should be slightly higher than those providers (offers discount).

I haven't even tried skill gambling games before but upon knowing how it works, it really have gotten into my attention and interest to try one for the rewards will be dependent on how skillful you are which is for me is really an interesting game to play with unlike the usual gambling games that are based on probability and outcome. Maybe skill games are suitable for those people that are basically not good on game of luck and chances for skill games are up into your skill capacity and have a greater chances to win because you will be dependent and would be using your own skill to play the game which is for me is reslly very encouraging to know with. Maybe at quite some time I wish to play some sort of skill games for I am truly confident of what I've got.

The more you are familiar with the game and the longer you are playing that particular game, the higher is your chance of winning.
Unlike those luck-based games, you don't need any strategy to win because it is purely based on luck.
So you just play without giving much effort on it. While this skill based game, you have the chance to use what you've got under your sleeves.

I am not sure how are you calling these as skill based games! I have just tried these games under fun mode and it looks and works like a traditional slot games! I have already given some example for skill based games like - 8 ball pool, Carrom, Clash Royale or PUBG!

These are true skill based games even if we are playing against the computer or bot. Is there any possibility for your company to bring such games in future?

Playing against the computer, no, I don't call it as skilled based game too as there's an edge and that will make us lose in the long run. Sports betting is more like an skilled based games, that's the right definition of a skilled based game as you cap the games and you put your pick based on your analysis and there's no house edge in here.

Those who think sports betting has a house edge, I think they have no idea what they are saying as I've been playing sports betting for many years and though I am not a kind of a consistent winner but I never blame the house edge that doesn't exist.

Have voted for the skill based game and it is more fun to play as you are more vigilant since you need to very active and be on toes in order to play such games and continuously keep thinking and play the game. At times when you play luck-based games it is more like you just keep pressing the button as there is nothing any skills required just it is purely based on luck and at times luck may not be with you.

And the "lucky" would probably not be consistent no matter how huge the bankroll is?
 I wondered abit about what he meant by "Skill games are casino slots..."
 I'm guessing he/she has a unique kind of slot designed to be skill-based?

I haven't play any skill-based slot games in a casino, but i know about it and how it works because the game is actually a video game that you need to used your money. So the outcome in skill-based slots doesn't depends on luck because the game truly depends on your skills, and it doesn't depend on how much you bet.

Watch this:
https://youtu.be/8i-WsR7Q0Rk

I really do like both of them. There are some times that I would play slots and dice game which is a game of chance and it really excites me to see the outcome whether do I win or not but mostly I do prefer the skill games since you have a chance of winning on it but still based on your skill of analyzing if its a sports betting for me both are exciting and fun.

Slots and Dice usually played by the beginners (but of course even old timer play this sometimes) and it is not skill game in which all is Luck or if you know how to cheat then you will win.

anyway Gambling is gambling.

Even how that skilled game is yet Luck is all we need to win lol.

Is there any way to cheat with dice or slots? As far as I know, there is no way to cheat or anything that guarantees to win especially that this is a luck-based game. The only thing we can do is to follow how the game flows.
And yes, of course, even if you play skilled games, you still need your luck, even if you are good at playing, if you are not really lucky, you will not win anything at all.

For sure, there is no way we can cheat with dice or slots, but the house is possible. Most of the dice games or slots games nowadays especially in some cryptocurrency gambling websites, uses cryptographic provably fair algorithm which we can know here if for every roll or spin we do are legit, since there are some seeds or roll numbers included here to do the algorithm.
But I saw some issues about not fair on the house part for using the provably fair algorithm, so I assume that is a form of cheating.

That is obviously cheating.

This is the one of the more reasons why these luck-based games are unreliable since we don't know whether we have bad luck at that day or it is the house playing games on us, they are just taking advantage of us gamblers. We should check these games and these provably fair houses by checking it which is told in this thread made by webtricks (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227525.0).

Saw this article before and its kinda funny and I don't know if this one will really work read it here https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gamblingsites.org/blog/5-ways-you-can-cheat-at-slots-and-reasons-not-to/amp/

But that can possibly done  on physical slot machines and if we talk about online slot for sure there's no way we can cheat that since for sure the fairness will occur, but we should select those trusted casinos for guaranteed fair game.

It is quite clear that everybody prefers games of skill, however, few online casinos want to invest the time, money, and effort needed to produce a game of skill that works for the casino and for the player.

I think there could easily be a game like connect 4 between players, where the caisno just takes 2% from each winning bet as the house edge.

Ideally, we want to see more complicated games of skill though, something like a strategy game or tower defense games—maybe throw in a randomness element so it's not purely skill.

Skill games are one of the most active thing we could do because it will test your self and knowledge how you will win the game.

Experience
This is one of the most needed if you want to join into the world of skill games because you can earn a lot of experience by playing with other people too you can use and adopt their skills too.

Critical thinking.
This must be active not all the time we are stick to the plan and one of the best thing we could do is to make a backup plan and make a new strategy to win the game.

Skill-based is what I prefer when it comes to games because I'm a competitive person when it comes to games. I'm always making strategies and studying the mechanics of the game for me to win. So definitely, skill games suit me because winning and losing depends on me. If I lose, it means that I need to study or work on another strategy for me to win in the next game.

So when it comes to gambling, I'll vote for skill-based gambling games. There is a huge difference in traditional and skill-based games, people can learn and gain experience through skill-based games that can be used for their own good.

I most prefer to make bets on e-sports, especially underdogs.
But for skill games I like Poker

With 70% voting for skill based games I would assume many people here bitcointalk are the competitive type. Luck based games are fun from time to time just not good to be done daily. Because your winnings mostly depend on luck and not your personal skills. Then you have games which count into luck and skill based games, like Blackjack or Dice. Sure they involve a lot of luck to win, but you also need a good strategy to succeed.

I vote for skill games, I can't let my brain be useless. At least with the interference of my intelligence, I have the opportunity to be able to change my luck. Being serious when playing also makes me more focused, moving cartoon images to the right and left will certainly improve our mood in playing and analyzing without pressure.

We can analyze the abilities of several horses that will be competed, we can also use several strategies and techniques to play Poker, Blackjack.

On the other hand, we also need a light game without draining our energy and there is no need to burden our minds any more, so traditional slots are very comfortable to play when our energy is not 100%

8.5/10 for skill games
6/10 for traditional slots

One thing to say about this kind of Game for me personally, "skill game is fun, but not for betting".
You know, I really like playing this skill game, however, I am not good at playing whenever I try hard. It will win nothing. I think that I have no ability for it. I'm lack to play that game.  ;D ;D

Moreover, when it has become an addiction, skill games will always spend more time, more and more times will be passed so easily when playing this game. It will be worse if we are always losing.

I wouldn't say Sports betting is a skill based game though. It definitely needs knowledge about the game but at the end of the day, it's all about luck unless that game is jacked by some bookie. Pure skill based games are very different. What sportsbet is claiming to be a skill based game, is a pure eyewash! It doesn't have any relationship with skills!

I think that skill games are only possible when you are playing with other players. For example, games like poker or blackjack. In these games, the most skilled player really wins. One-on-one skill games with casinos still involve a bit of luck. You need to show your good skills, and the casino is enough to wait for the moment when you are not lucky.

The problem is that the ceiling for poker proficiency is very low and many players reach it with ease. After that, luck again decides everything. These are facts, if someone is in doubt, he can check the bets at bookmakers - bets on newcomers in super tournaments are equal to bets on current/former world champions.

One can show his skills on an one to one game and not on casinos or blackjack. In my view skill based gambling means, it should be a game where winning should be on one's skill and not of luck. Such a game isn't available with any of the cryptocurrency accepted gambling website. For example chess is a skill based game, let the winner take the reward while the game is not against the system and everything is legit.

Many people do prefer skill games when compared to traditional slots, the possibility of skill games is more challenging and allows
people to use their abilities to increase the percentage of winning in gambling. Even though to be honest I enjoy traditional slots more,
it's lighter and more entertaining than skill games in my opinion.

There is not much skills involved in poker games and the winner is decided mainly because of the luck. However the skills might count in sports betting because if you have more knowlege about the teams performance and strength, you can bet on them accordingly and the winning percentage may be increased.

Not soo much skills needed in poker? I highly disagree on this one because handling out your cards plus having some bluffs or body language is already considered one.

When it comes to card games then i consider that its needed some skill for you to have some advantage or even on a simple game like Blackjack where you can really apply
these skills.

Games can be classified on different categories but on talks on what do i prefer then i do play both which it will vary on my mood because not all the times i do stick
with skill based ones.

Skill games may sound safer than traditional games, but it seems that winning on it may be really difficult and also requires the same risk as to the traditional casino games that requires luck. I think I 've seen and played one skill game before where you will be catching fish and the difficulty of catching a fish as it pass by depends on how much you had to hit it before it disappears on the screen, the bullet you use costs money. It may sound easy but it is a tricky game.

   Genemind I agree with you, skill games may sound safer, but in reality it's almost the same. You can have more or less chances,
but in gambling we all know how big chances fall down, same as small chances, if you're going to lose, you will lose it anyway!
   I like to have fun in gambling and for my lucky based games are more interesting that some skill based games. Here I mean about
poker, not about sports betting, in that I enjoy and to play crash, but I don't like to play poker so much, it's get boring for me after
some time.

I agree, because this game is the only thing where I can control the probability of winning. I played poker since when I was a teenager and that's the only game that I like and it really entertains me. In that game, I learned how to stop myself from betting even if it is not the right hand to bet. In contrast with slots, it is much risky because you have no definite idea what will be your fate in that game and only luck will make you win. If you think that you are lucky in that game then do it, just always remember that you don't have any basis in that game. Compared to poker, you can control, you can fold, you can bet if you're confident with your card and greed, bad decision making, and bad card are those things that will make you lose.

This isn't true, the same thing can be said with sports betting even if you have a lot of knowledge in a certain league luck can still be a deciding factor in the end since we've seen the favorites losing several times at an advantageous positions. We expect the top teams dominate for the most part but regardless of the big numbers they put out we'd still see them lose on matches that they shouldn't be losing at all.

There's a bit of luck on both but it doesn't revolve around it that much since there's a lot of ways to approach both of them. I only played poker a few times and I can easily tell  there's more to it than just luck.

You probably just playing for luck when you're playing poker. Actually poker is a skill game and one skill you could come up with on that is bluffing. However, sports betting may depend on luck and skills, your skill to pick what teams to bet on or the team you've bet on was the hell lucky as well, luck will still exists on the sports betting.

Why you call it investing in an addiction? Actually, if you just play games in casino and you are just making it for fun, then we can`t call it as addiction. Having a skill in game is really needed, specially if you want to win against other players or the house. If we don`t have strategies, we do not know when we are going to stop specially when we have win streaks. Skill games are good because you can manage to win and you have an edge to other players but aside from it, our luck in game matters.

There are a lot of people playing a game just with the full of luck, and only a few gamblers playing with their full of skill, some of them are already borned as a good play in gambling they have a capability to win the game without too much hassle and also there is a learner gambler too which base on their experience this is the hardest thing because you need to make investment not only for time also with money, not all the time you can play gambling without money if you are a good watch in gambling its good too but if you are just a typical person who needs to play or just experience a game it makes too much expensive to you just to earn knowledge you cannot earn gambling skills on the skills but you can earn knowledge on the probability and statisticsc.

both games can be played base on skills there are poker games that you need to use your mind if you are playing with other people PVP  you can use many strategy that you learn playing and there is also poker games that can only be played base on luck . While in betting you can do bet base on the experience of the players you want to bet and their opponent thats why there are games with low odds and the odds is favorable to other players.

It's better to play skill-based gambling rather than chance-based gambling because you will not only rely on your luck but rather on your skills and techniques which is really good for you because it will give you the advantage to win the game especially if you are good with that thing, I always prefer to play that kind of game because it has greater chance of winning your game.

I also think the same, luck based games are fine when the only thing you want is to relax after a difficult day at your job, but if I have time and the energy there is nothing like a skill based gambling game to entertain myself, probably the only downside of this is the time and effort that it takes to play this kind of game with the necessary skill and this can be discouraging to some people which is why I think many prefer to play luck based games as they are easier to get into.

Of course if I could choose a game, I will choose the game where I can really have the chance to win, the skills game, I may not be that skillful but at least I can improve and do something for myself to win.

It can also depend on my mood, If I'm too tired to think, then I'll go with the traditional games where luck should be your bestfriend. However, If I'm in the zone, I will always choose the skilled one. As much as I wanted to control my money, I also wanted to have a say about the game I'm playing, and not let luck decides my fate.

The chances of a game with skill to be won by the unskilled gambler is slim and those games that actually require skills are pokers games among others. Those games are the most enjoyable games while play with passion, am a porker gamer and love to be doing this almost every weekend. As a porker gamer, taking up another opponent who also has the needed skills for me is the most terrible shit for me, though play with them give more experience which will enhance your play henceforth.

Well, that is right because it is hard to fight with the bankroll or house edge, unlike if that is not all about based on luck game. But I wonder OP says that slot games are skillful gamble games, all I thought is that this game is based on luck. But if you really want skills games, I suggest playing a Chess game will definitely give you harder to think in every match you have. However, you can consider also playing cards is a part of skills game, like ^{[blackjack and poker]} which is very common in gambling.

I would love playing skill games rather than chance games. Cause i dont have any luck when playing games with only small percent of chance in winning.

Game of skills is a lot fun compared to game of chance for me. If I'm good at it I have the edge of winning rather than depending on your luck on game of chance type of gambling game. Winning is a little bit on your side in skill based games and you can totally earn money if you play consistently unlike in traditional gambling games where you can screw up over and over and you cant do anything about if because its purely based on your luck.

But it is more fun when you are just betting on Slot that you have no skills,there is a essence or excitement and challenge as you don't know what to expect.
while In skills the chance of winning is always and advantage.

i have found this in Youtube about sklled  slot machines that may give you idea and comparison about two against the traditional.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNjrG1mgabw


Still it is Luck that will give you the winning so why need to use skilled games when the enjoyment is best when you are playing in traditional games?

But you also need Luck even if it is skilled games lol.

We have own perspective on enjoyment and fun on gambling. The excitement and thrill is more on the traditional side but the profit is what makes me enjoy skilled base gambling games more. I gamble depending on my mood, wether I want to profit a little money or just kill time and enjoy my playtime in slots and other luck based games, I enjoy both of them but I find skill games more suited for me.

In skill games you have a good chance to win if you only do your assignment  of course you will have to allocate time and a lot of lessons and testing but once you master or accomplish this you are on your way to make continuous profit, many gamblers are making a lot of money from taking up skill games than traditional gambling that only requires luck.

I wouldn't called it luck since it would depends on how good your skills are. Luck is a thing that you could have in any moment when you're playing. It's either your opponent made a wrong move and that's your chance to turn the table around, or even in a pinch situation, your braincells just started to function like you're having an adrenaline rush, something like that.

Luck mostly happens in a prediction game, like sports betting.

But lets not forget that we are still gambling, you should not underestimate this since there are a lot of lives destroyed by this. Even though this is a skill game, there is still a chance for us to lose. Continuous profit might be a dream of you that covers the reality of losing your funds.

True, gambling has affected many lives of individuals and also of their families as well. But it depends upon every individual how they take it. But somebody like me, I ensure that gambling is always in limits and also adhere to it. Never do it excessively which can result in either heavy loss, addiction etc. Skill games are the best for me as luck may or may not be always favourable for you to keep wining but if one has good skills in some games chances of winning increases as compared to others.

There are gamblers who  used this venue  to be able to gained compensation  wise and  experienced gamblers  who are always  finding  ways  to get some  advantages out from  their  skills  and knowledge,  unlike  with traditional based on luck  gambling,  skills  based gambling  can be learned,  you can used patterns that gives  you  better  control  of  the  outcome  of your  stay  inside  the gambling house .

I think if we are usually playing on traditional slots, we can try to get a new experience by playing skill games, so we can know how it feels to make a strategy or modify it. Maybe it will difficult for the first time, but if we have an interest in the games, I think sooner or later, we can make a strategy or method to try to win the games. But you can not expect to have skills quickly because I believe that to be a master in the skills gambling games, it needs time and many lessons to learn.

Well playing skills games will surely be a lot more fun compared to the traditional one which is purely dependent on the probability of acquiring luck to win or gain your reward for playing. On skill games you are entirely dependent on your own skill which is a lot more enjoyable for me because in that way you know that its your effort, hardship and skills are being exerted on the game you play so no matter what the rewards will be is entitled to be a fruit of your labor. Traditional way of gambling or traditional slots are also do fun if you are a lucky one but with skill games, no luck required, just trust your skill and you will be rewarded based on the effort you have exerted.

-Knowledge
-skills
-Luck

All these things we need in gambling but I would like to emphasize how important to have luck among them. Skills and Knowledge could something we can apply but not really enough to win the jackpot and needs the luck to accompany us. But somehow it is impossible that it favors us all the time but of course, we don't need to wait for it and we never know as well, keep playing, have fun, and that is more entertaining than chasing big wins.

From what you say, you've never played poker.
If you look at the statistics of some players on the PokerStars website, you can see how they won dozens of different tournaments for a total of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some players earn a living by playing poker, and very successfully.
In poker, of course, luck is important, but the skill of players is crucial.

For me who is used to playing traditional slots, of course I think playing skill games is more complicated. Because it's not like
traditional slots where we can enjoy playing more, for me playing skill games is like getting pressure. And also skill games must
have a strategy that requires skills to be able to win games. So I prefer traditional slots, for me it's more fun and comfortable
playing gambling that doesn't require skills.

Nice games, right there. I like the Jade Puzzle one, actually I tried to play the fun mode however I couldn't get past the loading screen. This error "You've lost connection to the server. Please refresh to continue" always shows up, not sure if it is on my end or what but I have a good connection though, so I doubt that it was on my part. Anyway, I'll just try it the other time, it's just a shame haven't got the chance to try as I'm fond of puzzle games  :(.

Anyway, upon looking at the poll, no wonder, why the majority voted on skill games over the traditional, since the probability of winning on the former is way more higher than the latter. And I admit, you would feel bad losing on chance based games, or I'd better say you'll feel unlucky, compared to skill base 'cause you'll just feel more challenged, hence you'll be urge to play even more better.

And so, I too, prefer skill games  :D.

I can't reach your blog maybe because of bad internet network or something. But regarding traditional slots or skill games, I just believe that every game will always be good if it is accompanied by skill. If your choice is only about traditional slots or skill games, then at least it is the assumption that traditional slots are a game of luck without having to have skill, while playing solely on the luck factor is not a good thing in gambling.

Those three things will be needed to play gambling because if we don't have one thing from that list, we will be difficult to win. We can learn about winning gambling, but we will still difficult to win if we don't have luck. Playing skills gambling games will need more knowledge and skills because that is required to win those games. But above that, if you are lucky, you can win any gambling games without having knowledge and skills. But that will be difficult always to have luck in your gambling time.

Opposite from what I believe to about slots, dice or any mini games in casino. I don't believe that these games required any skills at all to win, what you need is just a luck and good bet timing. In slots, there's nothing much that you do but to just press the button and see where it lands. In dice you just need to choose between roll over or roll below. If guessing right in consecutives is a skill then they might be. Anyways, all games are made for entertainment, so enjoy  :D

You forgot that all games on an online casino are all played by pressing a button only  including card games but it doesn't mean that all of them are luck based because you can play them with skill involved too . you mentioned bet timing on your post , bet timing is related to skill and I have been using that on the slot games  . I start betting small then gradually increasing the bet ,  it's not the same as martingle because it's not auto and I re arange my bets from time to time

Timing in slots and dice games doesnt really matter much because if your lucky then even if you do continuously press or roll then you'll surely win thats why it doesnt really matter much
about timing and everything on how you do bet because outcome would really be on random basis.If you win then you'll smile if not then move on.All of things online is surely
be press by a button but we can really differentiate which one is really a skill based required kind of game and which one is just really needed some simple bet or choices.
Its a matter of preference though because not all would have the same interest.

Yes, that is exactly the reason why skill games are better than traditional gambling games. Thrill and the feeling that you have at least some control are the best part for me. Feeling hopless depending only on luck isn't very exciting and promising for me that is why I prefere skill games.

Feeling hopeless can bring people to play again and again because the big thing they will feel is curiosity about how to win the games. But if they can't win in the next round, that will make their curiosity bigger, but they will also lose the money at the same time. Without having luck, they will not win any gambling games, and they will still feeling hopeless.

And if they can stop after they win, that will the way for them to enjoy the winning moment and, of course, the money. So no matter is the gambling games are traditional gambling games or skills gambling games, the feeling will almost be the same.

But there are people that still depend on luck.

I don't know what they are thinking or what they're goals are but they are having fun playing those. I guess in terms of these games, gamblers still have different game that they favor or their favorite. My friends told me that they don't really chase after the wins, they are having fun and they are used to play those games.

Almost every casino games falls into this category so there is no point of believing we could win the bets no matter how much experience we got with these games in the past.When someone wants to play luck and skill based combo game then they should go for poker where you could win just with your skills but its not going to be easy anyway f the amount is larger.

It's honestly that factor of luck that most people still go back to luck-based games since it's solely based on luck, the fact that they're losing means they also have a chance of winning, unlike in skill-based games where winning is highly reliant on your own skill itself, and luck plays only a minor role in winning. Still, all gamblers have their own preference, and besides, skill-based games on casino still, in one way or another, still have that luck factor, so even if you're pretty bad at it, as long as you have luck by your side, you can still win. It's like how a good hand in poker can still lose to a bad hand depending on the cards on the table.

I think this luck factor is what makes gambling so attractive to all of us, without there would be so many less good games. It's best to play a variety of games, some with skill and some with luck. For example, I tend to play lottery quite regularly lately. I know the winning chances are so small that it's probably never gonna happen, but there is still the little chance to get a massive payout. The variety of games at casinos combining luck and skill makes it so attractive for many of us I believe.

Skill based slots is a kind of option for those people who find slot machines more attractive than sitting at the card table.

Don't forget about the main reason why we are gambling. We enjoy it.  It's fun. This is a way to escape the stark reality. Have you ever played a single computer game that would require a certain level of skill to successfully finish it? What is the point of such game if you are not competing with real humans? The whole point is to prove to yourself that you are able to complete the game on a high level of difficulty. The same can be applied to skill based slots. You are not playing against other people, you are not competing with them to find out who the best player in the room is, but you are still competing with casino. If you are skilled enough to play against casino, you will be awarded.

Maybe those people who play gambling games based on luck comes because they don't have to learn details about the games based on skills. They can go to that place anytime they want without trying to practicing what they learned. They want to test their luck that day after they got several losses in a few days or yesterday. But for people who play skills gambling games, they come to the place because they want to practice and test the lesson. And if they can win, they will use it again, or even they will modify that to have bigger winning. But we know that no matter if that is a gambling game based on luck or skills gambling games, we need to have the luck to win.

Skills games is quite the same with esports in my opinion, one team or a person could have the complete control of the game based on their experience and game knowledge. With this, we don't need luck to win since we can overpower our opponents. In skill games casino or even in normal casino, this could also happen. some poker players knows the card very well, and they could use it as an advantage to predict the outcome of the game. Plus, their emotion will look so empty because of their experience to stop the other party from reading their minds.

I'm not convince about the luck factor makes gambling more attractive since there are several gambling sites who opened up but failed and the one I really see the main reason on why gambling is attractive is due to the competitions and other promotions. But in terms of profitability between skill based and luck based games I choose the skill games and provably many would select this to since it can give us higher chances to win.

Some people do not have the skills but they are able to win big amounts from gambling only on the basis of the luck. I understand that if you are playing skill based game, you feel confident but it does not grantee that you will win. I see many people who win big money  from their luck.

Poker and Blackjack is the only games i know that requires skills, the rest is you need huge bankroll in order to yield some profit. Because slots and dice are all based in chance and probability. You may encounter lose streak especially when you increment your based odds per bet.
Sports betting can be also considered especially when it requires knowledge and research.

 
   I think betting on sports can be counted as skill based gambling, because you need to know many things in order to be
profitable in long-term. In my opinion betting on sports require more skills than playing Black Jack, but it's just my opinion.
   For every game you need some skills, and I think skilled people have more chances to win when they play. Who plays
without any knowledge about the game he will lose all!

Not just huge bankroll but most with good management with your emotions, you need to control so you'll be able to win decent.


Huge losing streak may triggered your aggressiveness. ending point lose big amount of money.


Sports betting is more on skills, your knowledge is your advantage to this types of gambling.

Agreed if you are playing live casino,Skills in looking at your opponent will be the best one.
And also Sportsbetting has a Skill if you are dedicated to win here as experience and knowledge will be needed to take winnings .
but of course limited games,because there is no skills needed when you are playing slot machine and Bingo.

Online gambling also requires certain skills. I think there is always a luck factor in the game, because you cannot influence everything yourself. Unless you play yourself, but betting with teams or automatic systems always brings a certain amount of luck. Skills are important to be able to estimate a market or match.

People only rely on their luck if they are not confident about a certain thing, and that's why "Risk" and "luck" are always contradicting each other at some point. Gambling is about winning or losing, either you lose your money or yourself. But relying on luck alone when betting won't bring you anywhere, it's like fighting someone with a blindfold, though it will give you some thrill that will hype you up to bet even more.

I think skill come with experience because you could have played overtime and then have experience due to the falls and wins recorded. A little luck too can influence a win. You don't gamble without knowing what you are doing and only believe luck to help out.

I think I played these slots in a casino. They are completely electronic and there, when a certain game combination falls out, the game begins, which really depends largely on the player's skills. However, it is worth noting that the chance of starting such a game and the amount that will be played there depend on luck. Therefore, in this case, we can not say that everything is 100% dependent on the skill of the player.

You are right to say that we are all different with our desires and habits. Someone likes to play against the casino, someone likes to play with other people. In no case do I impose what I like on other people. I just expressed my opinion on this issue.

I would be more agreed to play skill slots, rather than ordinary, because i can't accept games where everything depending on luck. Moreover, to bet my own money in a weird hope to get more.

I checked few games (from the internet reviews) and i can say that the probability of winning anything still the same as in slots (games look like really hard), in such skill based games you can improve yourself to levels where you will only win. In slots or dice you can't even do anything close to it.

Maybe that is right, but still, the luck will be needed to win. And if you win in one gambling game, I consider that because you have your luck comes to you, you can win. Imagine if the luck will not there, can you win the game, even if you have god skills in that game? I guess not, because skills, experience, and knowledge in gambling will be some of the components to win, and that will be complete if you have luck.

It depends, in poker it is known that even if you have an advantage over other players the competition and the level of skill begins to go up as you go up in the limits, it is not the same to play in a tournament with a small buy-in than it is to play in a tournament that has a large buy-in, the level of competition and advanced play that you will see goes up, also it is known that if you play in cash games and all of you have a high level of skill you will not profit over the long term, you still need a few players that are below the skill level of the rest as poker is a zero sum game.

I am interested about openings with ability since playing spaces games don't need aptitudes, and we could simply tap the moves button, and the outcome will come out. Those pictures give us individuals play spaces games, however I don't have a clue whether they utilize their aptitudes to win. About of skill games expertise based small scale game. You actually depend on your karma and irregular number generator, yet for your reward game you can pick either standard free twists or aptitude based game. The last requires aptitude, response, focus. Karma isn't significant here, on the off chance that you are sufficiently talented, you may win more than by simply turning reels.

You have to consider factors that will give you some advantages, if you plan it ahead and you able to sum it up while playing
strategy/ skills types of gambling is your advantage.
People who knows how to calculate and have the skills of assessing their level of chances really makes it profitable while those
who are aggressive and wanted to take their lucks most of the time losses along the way.

you should have fast instincts on whats in front of you to precisely do this strategy. however, skill games has better chance of winning if you know your game. because if we're talking about luck-based games, you dont have to think on this game, just go with the flow and hoping that luck will strike you. so dont expect also that you are on the winning side on this one.

It differs about your own poker skill. You're close to my view, but with some things i can't agree: In poker, despite skill there big amount of luck in exact game. In a distance, yeah, more skilled person will win. But in one tournament a worst player can win. And it works in another side: you don't need "fish" everytime you're playing, because there is difference in luck, so if you're lucky, everyone who playing in this match against you - fish.

Skilled slots it's also zero sum game (you or casino). In fact, as every gambling game  :)

If those skills games are sports betting, then we really need skill, and yes, I agree that the chance will be better than the gambling games based luck, especially if we really know those games. But sometimes, the skills games need us to learn more or gather more information to select the right method or team/player, especially if we are lack information to choose. If we want to win those games, we need to have more information from other valid sources to increase the chance to win.

If you are always playing that specific game such as poker, you don't need to study or exert more effort to know the information about it. It's already on you because you are already playing the game and the winnings depend on your experience and approach to the game. Skill games are better than traditional games, we shouldn't always rely on luck.

The more experiences and strategies you have in a skill-based game, the more chances of winning.

It is also the same with skill-based some times.

When we used to bet on a team, for example a NBA team, if they have a great record or a great run in a series, they have a high chance of winning in the next games that just means they percentage is high to win which we would be betting on them. Though sometimes, the lower percentage happens and we have no control to that. Don't forget that we are still gambling, it may be skill-based or luck-based, we are still gambling.

I have be on the side of skill games as the best games in this century becasue, they are purely base on your ability in your skills. Don't gamble and expect fairness even when the gambling platform said so, we heard about this several times and nothing be done rather just blacklist from the forum. Most of these skill games are still my favorite, especially poker game. Poker is that game i played with 100% assurance of getting back my winnings if the opponent can't match my pick.

There are other games that is not mainly about luck, but also skill and knowledge/experience. People also include Poker and Blackjack as one of those skill-based games, I don't know if esports is included in sports betting but it is another example. As you said it is a about gather information and putting your money into a team with a higher odds of winning, it is usually all about analyzing and experience and some luck.

Esports Betting is quite different, easy to pick which team has the potential to win, and probably have the higher odds. And winning is not possible but it should have to come up with LUCK. Do some card games require skill and knowledge as well as what you have mentioned but above all, it should also have to connect our instinct. I usually picked teams that have higher odds but still not a winning assurance, LUCK is very important.

Poker is an absolutely a game that is not based on luck, it requires skills such as good analytical skill, if you don't have it you're probably just luring yourself into more losses in poker games. Self discipline is one of key skills on games like poker, your win or lose in poker depends much on your self discipline.

AFAIK, just betting on e-sports aren't considered as skill based games. It's more on knowledge and trust on what will happen to the game.

If I'm not mistaken there are some competition of skill-based games rather than the normal competition of fighting games. I saw that there are lots of kids that has been competing in the national championships in this category of games. Whoever passed all the levels with the fastest time, they're the one get the highest score and will become champion on that kind of sport. I was sure that I saw it somewhere on youtube I just can't remember which channel was it.

I like skill games I'm trying to do it with with horse racing and boxing but it needs a lot of time and effort, it's more challenging tham luck games but there are games that just rely on luck like Dice game and slot machines, even if you want to set up system you cannot because it's guided by luck and chance.

There are pros and cons for both skill and luck games. but they do both intersect to the goal of having fun or despair.
(1)With skill base games, you can factor out luck and have a greater chance of winning given that the game you picked to play has something to do with the skill you already have to have an advantage. For most people, pride gets in their way even if they don't have the skill required to play the game, they always take the low road and play this games without thinking at all. Ergo with skill based games, respect to the game, self discipline, and confidence are the main skills you need to have the chance to win. (2) With luck based games, it is mostly a pass time and definitely only luck, but there had been issue of this games being rigged and manipulated to lower the probability of the person to win.
So If I would choose, I would prefer skill based game cause not only that I will have fun, I'll also be able to rely solely on my skills and ability to win these games.

Personally I am a big fan of these types of games.  Not just for slot machines but for all casino types games.  When it comes to slots, it seems like the machines that hit are those that have been played for a long time without any wins, so my strategy has always been to scope out the slots first, see which ones have been played hard, then play.  This is why I prefer skill games, takes a good bit of luck out of the equation.

I think you should be able to provide more experience about this game and be able to provide other strategies besides that because I believe gamblers will not only have one strategy, because until now what I know in gambling venues only relies purely on the luck they have.

Experience and mental are the most important in the game that we will do, including betting in the traditional way that skill is needed because with experience, skills can be combined into a useful combination to play because in every game we want to play, of course we must have skills, including sports and I think the game of luck is just dice and slots don't need much skill to play.

Skill games, as the name implies, requires a certain skill in order to increase your chances of winning in a said gambling game. Compared to most gambling methods like slot machines, the latter requires pure luck as you only need to pull the lever and pray that the odds may be in your favor. On the other hand, poker (which is a skill-based gambling game), involves several methods and techniques in order to increase your chances of winning.

Even if you have a winning combination of cards in a poker round, if you lack the necessary skill to execute a strategy, a person with much worse combinations may steal the victory due to a bluff.

Skill-based gambling games usually tend to last longer in a given round. If you prefer to throw your resources and wish for a lucky day, then go for slot machines or other related gambling tools. On the other hand, you want to at least test your skill in a gambling game (which is usually longer), then poker would be the fit for you.

Every game/match odds can be selected based on skills. This will get winning, but that too depends much on luck. Upon the same I believe everything with gambling have little connection with luck. Always a combined strategy leads to win apart from relying on true luck or on complete skills/strategy.

And I quite confused where would you put esports betting since we only have skill-based games and luck-based games, I think it is obvious that it is in skill-based game. You already said that it is more on a knowledge, knowledge about the game, the teams and their capabilities that is why you could analyze what might happen, just like sports betting.

I think it'd be fun betting on our own abilities. It comes with analysis. I mean, if you win, great. You'll just have to keep it up. But if you lose, you'll also be able to determine what to improve the next time you play. I personally love to watch skill based games. And I think it would also be interesting to watch slots relying on skills and not luck alone.

Its always nice when we have the chance to win as many bets as we can and thats a skill game. Skill-based game are quite challenging if you have a fairly reliable and hard to beat opponent at the table. I rarely bet on skill as I prefer luck-based game like dice, slot and sport. Even though skill can help to win, but in gambling there is no guarantee that we will win, especially when played online.

I would not believe that people with gambling skill can win more bet and thus get a lot of money. In fact, many of the people who experience big losses at the gambling table are those who have the skill to play. Skill does not guarantee victory, only to increase the chances of winning when playing.

esports is same as sport betting so there is nothing wrong with having them under the skill based games but e-sports are literally don't have enough data so we can't really make much analysis so its kind of 50/50 game.

I agree, it is so fun.

I usually do some bettings on esports and NBA right now which is fun since you are not just watching the game because it is the playoffs but because you are supporting a team and you have a bet on them so that adds up a spice there. You could see how they play and that gives you information on what you expect the next game.

NBA is one of the largest game among all on the world of sports and this is the reason why there are a lot of people would like to join into gambling because they want to earn additional income while they are supporting their favorite team.


You can find out some data with the use of internet also i have one sources too to find information for example is dota players and teams. Try to visit gosugamers too.

I don't know what you mean but there are a lot of ways for you to get datas about these players and about a team. IF you are a fan of a team or the game itself, that is a huge advantage for you. There are a lot of information on the internet and there are also a lot of fans of esports online so I don't think you could say that there is not enough data to analyze.

I am not saying we can't find the data, just said there is not enough data to compare the teams and the players abilities but with traditional sports we have lots of experiences with the players ability so it could be easier to predict the players performance which is not likely to be possible with an E-sport player.

That is why I am saying that if you are a fan of the game itself, it is a huge advantage for you. https://liquipedia.net/ (https://liquipedia.net/) give us great records of these players, people also give their analysis and predictions here in the forum in this threads:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193560.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271455.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248531.0

And if you really wanted datas, you could just google search them. Past games and past records of players are all over the internet which could give you the information and the data you wanted to. Either way, I don't think you would be betting on these games if you don't know what they are playing or what even are they doing in the game. Like what I've said in the first line.

Whatever the gambling it still depends a lot on luck. There is only one important point. In some games, nothing may depend on you, the outcome of the game is decided only by luck. I have played a lot of dice on fortunejack, the chance of winning depends heavily on luck. At the same time, there are games where a lot depends on your skills to count cards, think, bluff and the presence of steel balls between your legs, and only last of all on luck.

We are talking about the same expect that we are doing it from different perspectives, it is true that in any particular game any player may score a victory, similar to what we see on soccer in which the favourite despite having a roster many times more powerful than the one of his opponent still losses the game, but while you talk about specific cases I talk about the averages and on average the superior player over the long term should always beat the player with lesser skill.

You got me there, you are right. ;D

I prefer skill games between traditional game andskill game. In my opinion skill is much important in every game.  If you think that luck is everything in those type of game then you are fully wrong. Winning is not depend upon luck, this is depend upon your idea, skill and knowledge.

didn't know that there were such thing as skill based game in casino i tried to read your blog about it honestly it's really informative though it can be found on your casino i was wondering if there are other skill games, probably in real life casino.

But in fact, you don't deny that some games are really based on luck. Example: traditional slots, this kind of game even doesn't require any skills, you just need good luck then you may win it. However, winning the game based on luck is hard to happen. That's why as you stated, it is better to choose skill games. So, the winning will be determined with your skills. When you can improve your skills, then you can also improve the chance to win it. Plus, then you will have experiences that surely support the higher chance to win.

It's categorized into lucked based games and skilled based games, but it really depends on how you interpret the game you are playing as we don't look it the same way. Skilled based games in a casino, yup they exist that's what gamblers are going back in a casino to play.

What OP showed is already a picture of a skilled game in a real casino. I don't know if you have been in a casino without seeing these things around, other from these are still to come in the future. Well, I believe that this kind of game isn't just needed the skill to play but it much better to have luck as well to win the jackpot prize which is much important than having the ability alone.

Agree, as the category is a luck based-game, so the winning is mostly affected by the luck factor. Indeed gamblers don't play carelessly, but they have a certain approach based on their own experiences. However, it is true that winning is mostly caused by the luck, not the approach/the way to play it. It is much different when you play a skill-based game, if you only rely on the luck, then you will never win on the game.

Still the house edge is on the casino yes? The slot machine are design for the gamblers to lose but playing those games are really good and it could be addicted like others did sitting whole day in the slot machine playing. Anyway, I would not disagree on OP about his opinion on playing with skills because all it will depend on the gambler. Gambler should know that playing slot machines or any games to have a limitation in time of playing and should only consider gambling as leisure activity.

Perhaps, there are games that are based on your skills and there are games that are based from your luck. Card games, Dice, and other basic gambling games are considered games that are based on your luck. Knowing the possibility that you can win, it is not even 50/50, and most of the time, you aren't the one in control to rolling the dice, or shuffling the cards. Basically, you just bet and let your luck dictates whether you win or not. Unline to some machines that are based on skill, you can control the outcome of the game based on how knowledgeable you are to the game and how often you have played it that built useful experience to increase your chance of winning.

It looks like I have not played any of the listed skill games. My best understanding of poker is that I suppose it can also be classified as a skill based game.
It is difficult to say which would prefer from the proposed by you. On the one hand, I love games in which everything depends on the skill, but on the other hand, in order to succeed in such games, you need to spend a lot of time and therefore money to acquire mastery.
In slots everything is simpler, it all depends on how lucky you are, you are either lucky or not. I think this is the reason why most people choose slots.

The game for luck, I think it's just for leisure, because you can't control anything, it's all about luck. But a game in which your experience, knowledge and ability to count can decide the outcome is completely different. Luck can always turn its back on you and this is a factor that you cannot influence in any way.

All gambling games are created for us to lose because the main reason why gambling sites and company existing is because they want our money and not the other way around so that is indeed .

what i am thinking is this will be depending on what is your purpose to gamble,if you wanna Play with enjoyment or playing to win solely .

while in traditional casino there are some games that may used cheat and other relevant things ,that cannot be done in Slot machine.

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best thing here?just play with your budget money and not with your whole payroll.

If you analysis the poll, there are 76% votes for the skills games while there are only 23% votes in favor of traditional slot games.
Even though the poll results show that people favor the skill games over the traditional luck based games but the reality is that most of the gambling games are only luck based.

Of course, because without luck, no matter how good you have gambling skill, you will not win the bet. If you bet without luck then all bet will end in losing without a win. Luckily for those who can win large bet and even jackpot, however I prefer no-skill slot or traditional slot.

Unfortunately, all of the above games have an element of luck, even those based on your skill.
Otherwise, the casino would be extremely unprofitable to provide games in which, having achieved a certain skill, the player would only win and almost never lose. It's kind of a gimmick.

Everyone has their likes and dislikes, skill games are very fun but as you say you need to dedicate a significant amount of time before you gamble to be competent enough to follow the rules and all the etiquette other players expect from you and if you want to be more than that and have a chance of being profitable in them then you need to dedicate an even greater amount of time to get to that level of skill and most people do not want to do that with their gambling, they just want to get some quick fun and there is nothing wrong with that either.

Yes, poker is a game of skill that has a bit of an element of luck and requires long-term play and enough money to master it and discipline plays a big part in poker and the right volume, and you can get good results winning consistently.
Most people choose slots because they expect good luck and it's easy to play them without the need for skill.

It is nice to see that 76% like it want to play skilled based games and not just games which are purely based on the luck like slots, dice etc . Cards games are quite popular and fun to play as well were you need to have skills and experience to be ahead in the game .

Of course, skill games are still the favorite of the majority of gambling players...
I'm in 23%, I don't like skill-based gambling games because I don't have much time. I play slots to fill empty time while relaxing while taking care of the children at home. adjust your time when you want to play gambling so that other activities are not interrupted.

I don't think it is a proper reason to unlike skill-based games in gambling. Even you don't have much time, you will understand how to play the game if you already played the game for a long time. I think many gamblers playing both skill and luck based games in spare time only. But both can be played as long as you want to know or desire to play the game.

It is a must, don't force to play gambling when you are busy with real-life activities. Gambling shouldn't be the priority if there are other things more important to do, especially activities for the family or your jobs/profession in real life.

I love skill based games more than games which are purely and totally dependent on the players' luck because skill based games provide more advantage to the players than luck gives.

I like total skill based games though like chess or 8 Ball pool, but games which are luck+skill like rummy, and sometimes blackjack, are fun too. Overall, if there's skill involved, I love to play those games as it feels like I'm controlling the game :P

Why the comparison is between skill based game vs. traditional slot? I think it is better if the vote is skill based game vs luck based game because both type has many type of games. Without a doubt that skill based game will get more votes (big difference) as the other one is one specific type of game (slot). I think the vote result wont have such big difference if the traditional slots is substituted by luck based game. Anyway I do like skill based game such as poker but I voted for traditional slots as I play slots more than any skill based game.

Most take the path of least resistance and choose simpler things, things in which there is no need to think and apply their skills. Most people come to the casino to relax and relax their nerves.
Not everyone can handle the psychological pressures that professional poker players face, it's hard work.

Most users prefer the skill based games, but the opportunity available around the gambling sites is very low. Some gambling site should take initiative to run competition. This way more people can be made to get interested to play skill based games. The same when played between players it'll surely gets more popularity.

Luck + Skill games are really the most entertaining, including Blackjack, Poker and others.
But playing only skill-based games online is totally a waste of time. It doesn't matter how great skills you have in particular games online, what matters is who has better software and computer because skill-based games totally depend on math and other combinations that needs calculation. So, such games would look like battle between PC and PC.

I think it will be better if casinos implement games like rock paper scissors where persons really have to combat against each other via pure luck. There are a lot of p2p games that depend on pure luck.

This one gives an idea too why not there is a PvP games like this on the casino or any kind of gambling platform not quite hard right?,
All you gonna need let's say it's a different round each round has a three games 5 games and 7 games. Those are the choices of the both player
Each player has a specific private room can be spectate by the admin and the viewers.
Before they start the game they must wage and the both party accept these deal and the game starts.

It's just best of two, three and four. It's quick and fun you can invite other player too.

Not all gambling games has luck for it gamblers , imagine some good skillful gamblers who choose to gamble with their skills around the industry. Those gamblers can't be place on gamble by luck rather skilful gamblers with a command to win. Though, there is luck in this industry but not when it come to games that required skills. Am a poker gambler, and without the knowledge don't get in because loss will be inevitable.

This is my first time I saw this games and it's really good game for the player who have a lot of skilled to play this game for sure they gonna win a lot. But for the people who are less skills maybe they gonna lose. Im curious about that game what skills a player needed to win that games? Because if we are talking about skills there is a lot of meaning. Maybe someday I try to play that because of confusing on how it works.

But people for sure will play to the ordinary games compared to that because they possible to win even they dis not have skills and trying their luck only to the other games they want to play to the casino or even through online.

The poll results have proven that gambling based on skill is much more favorable than traditional slots which rely on luck.
The reason I prefer skill games is because it is more challenging and makes us think when playing gambling, so indirectly
make our brains honed. And also traditional slots, if you play too often it makes us bored quickly, different from skill games,
it always makes you curious every time you play it.

In online gambling Only limited chances to win using skills.

This is applicable in Live casinos in which we are playing in real people and we can see the reaction in their faces,and i also knew how to use that in our Local poker.

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In sports betting this is very useful

and i believe in there the experience is functional.

Usually those people that chooses luck-based games are there for fun.

In terms of running a competition, they would be having doubts about that since we all know we are still in the effect of the pandemic and people are still scared of going outside. Online competitions might be hard and if we will be talking about the past, there are poker tournaments happening with a huge amount of pot money as a prize.

I think everyone if you want to play a new game then you should be able to try it first and when doing the experiment you should be able to record the steps and the results you get so that with that note it can make you think more and can make you confident, keep practicing so you can conquer the game and can make a lot of profit.

The experience we are talking about is the number of events you played, the number of tables your turn, the number of games you win, the number of games you lose. Its all about your experience of playing gambling, if you want to become a professional you need to experience those different possible events happen in your game, because this gives you a lot of lessons to learn, if you just ignore this kind of knowledge for sure there is no so much improvement with your skills in gambling right now you will become dependent on your luck, not all the time luck are with you.

It isn't a gambling game if there isn't any luck factor involved imo. Sure, some gambling games may have skill involved like poker, but that "skill" is mostly just judgement based skills, not really a skill that influences the result, like whether you're an idiot or a genius, if the final card is a 7 of hearts, that's it, the only change would be the result you'd achieve, which is either a win or a loss depending on your judgement. Skill-based on the other hand, as long as you're able to achieve a certain level of skill, a win is guaranteed, which makes it not a gamble anymore.

Not saying that gambling games is better or not, just that skill based games deviate from the core of a gambling game, which isi luck imo.

Only stupid gambler or person that will think of always Winning that is why this called gambling because no one sure of what will happen.
things only change now since there are casinos online and offline in which the winner always the owner of the business.

That is why Luck is just coming once every blue moon and not everyday,so when you think that luck is on you,better play more and when
 its gone,then Go home and never push to win and win because thats not happening beside it is the other way around.

Eh, if we could predicted that, casinos would very quickly run out of customers. ;)

In reality, things are a little different. No one enters a casino with a plan to lose their money but to win. Unfortunately, most of us are wrong...

The best game that I used my skill and knowledge was chess for me it is one of the best skill games for gambling.
I also enjoy some MOBA that is being used for gambling but it is only on tournaments, I have played some MOBA to gain money by gambling and still betting sometimes with my friends while we play.
For me skill games are the best when it comes to gambling since we don't need to depend too much on luck.

At some point, chess is one of the greatest board games for me and eventually, it is being used to gamble for something in the old era.

So if you have skills in reading patterns and calculations, you'll definitely win on this kind of gamble.
The skill games that are talking in here are poker games and chess where you use your skills and strategies to win in the gambling game. I guess MOBA games are out of the skill-based gambling category.

If you are aware that luck is not always with you then you must be able to try to keep getting profit by playing the game smartly, meaning you have to be able to see the right position to enter the gambling place and after that you can record all your attempts. and the results so you can predict a little what the outcome of your next move will be.

I love chess too. It would be awesome if the betting market for chess would be bigger. The esports community came a long way in the last 5 years and offers so many opportunity for gamblers. Even betting on low tier matches is not a problem anymore these days. I hope the chess market will evolve in a similar fashion in the future. Definitely would enjoy betting on some more games.

On theory skill based games can improve the chances of the player of becoming profitable but that is only true when the player has mastered his strategy and in many cases this is not true, so even if you are playing a skill based game there is a chance that you lose even more money than if you were playing in a game completely based on luck and this is because players when having several losses in a row will begin to take bad decisions that benefit the house and lose their money that way.

Basically all types of games will definitely be in demand for some players, whether it's traditional slots or skill games in gambling, luck is the main thing. I do not admit that I personally have good skills in gambling, but experience that gives an answer if in gambling the luck factor is something that cannot be eliminated, because even though I have skills but there are times for me to lose everything, but there are times for me to getting big wins, all of that at least I have experienced in some types of gambling such as casino, cards, and sports.

How about those player don't have enough skills to play that games once they play maybe they lost more money. I think it's better for us to play to the traditional games because possible to you win a money even you did not skilled player only luck if you win or not. Skills game is new game and it's my first time to see that game and I think most us too are curious on how that games rate the player skilled of if they win or not.

I've never had to play skill games before, so I chose to play traditional slots, but I think the idea of skill games is quite interesting. If earlier the winnings depended only on luck, now it depends on the player himself. You need to play these new slots.

Then the skill game is not for them who have not much skill on the game. They always avoid it. But what I think skill game will be more enjoyable than the traditional slots. Because for skill game player does not depend on the luck. They will what they are. So it may be more enjoyable I did not play though. But curious to play if have any chance in the future. :)

I'm only familiar with sportsbetting as a skill games. So a slot casino where in the result is based on the players skill seems pretty interesting to try is this slot skill based game is only available on your casino since it's my first time hearing it.

I think it's awesome to know that there are ways where results are based on skills rather than on chance. It just simply means that one needs to acquire the required skills to make profits.
Although this means that it is no longer gambling because gambling has always been a game of chance and there's a always the probability of winning or losing.
However, I'd rather play the game depending to my skills rather than subject my fate to chance.
I'd surely go check it out. Thanks OP

There are many existing gambling games before that are skill-based. If we are talking about gambling, It doesn't mean that it always needs to be in a casino for it to be called gambling. One of a skill-based game I know is a shooting game and it is existing many for many years now. I think you have a wrong idea about gambling, It's not always a game of chance, A simple game can be considered gambling as long as it has any kind of risk in the table like monetary or personal belongings.

Pretty amazing that such a stupid thread gets so much posts that it's always on top of the threads. A lot of sponsored members here. Why not go play yourselves instead of posting here.

I don't consider casino slots a type of skill game. It's still a form of gambling where luck plays a big part to win a game.
Skill games for me are like chess and game that they play on esports where it takes years of practice and dedication to compete at a high level.
If casino slots were skill-based then many people would be rich by now. And even if you win I'm sure it's either by luck or you already spent tons of money first.

I think it depends on luck, but some techniques are also useful.

Skill based games are great but only as long as I am assured that the game is being fair to all players and I am not betting against a robot or a script that is made in such a way that I would always lose.

I often play chess with people online and make small bets with them on the game and people cheat a lot when money is involved so you have to be very careful when playing skill based games because you might have even lower chance of winning than luck based games.

I would actually love games that have an element of luck and skill both involved for example fantasy based sports where we can pick players and earn points on how they perform and the top points player wins.

That's actually a step up for the industry but it will only surely be a hit for people who likes changes within gambling since most people are really stuck on the traditional way on how they can earn money from Gambling. Change is still good though once properly thought of and nothing can go wrong by trying something new. Skill games would need to have limits since people can hone their skills by playing over and over with the addition of luck. It would be a good change and hope for people to embrace it.

Betting in an skilled based games may somewhat addicted when it has a money involved. And yes cheating may attract people who are betting especially when the winning prize are high. But even small bets are attempting to cheat since money were involved. Sad to say i didn't even tried betting in any skilled game because i think i am not good at it, i didn't also rely on luck but somehow i am amazed seeing people who are skilled playing games like chess.

Skill based games are similar like video games to me, :D People are gradually leaning on skill-based slots. It is a groundbreaking alternative to traditional slots. Those who think that their luck is not very good, they can play skill-based games cause luck is not the main issue here, if you have good skills, you can win by playing.

I tried your skill game it's pretty interesting you are offering such games but still i would prefer playing sports betting and poker I think there's a high possibility that I could win with this games since I've been in the field for a long time good thing to know that casinos are now having a skill base game

Slots are always luck based game, there are different type of slots available but the basic thing need to win on the slots is luck. Poker is the skill based gambling game and blackjack and lot of card based games are here which plays big role skills more than on winning the games.

More like myself mate, most of my gambling activities are done with skill games base and not just luck base games. Though, sometimes I do exercise myself with these luck base games because of entertainment and fun in them than the skill games( though, not all time). Currently, I have shifted towards poker games and sporting as various leagues has been opened up recently. Nothing is best achieve when it's base on luck than your ability.

I think that "skill games" create some illusion of control in the player when, in fact, luck is much more determinant than skill.

Take for example a card game like Hearthstone: it is clear that the better dock and knowledge you have can be crucial to win, but it is much more of an illusion than a reality.

I haven't researched it on myself, but I have read a few studies, and this is what studies said :D

Can you provide us the link where you have read those studies,

Because I don't think that we can call it as an illusion of control when it comes to skill games. Yes, luck is still belong especially when it comes to card games, but the thing is, if you have a skill, you will know what to do at the very beginning whatever card you will get.

It's another option to explore while gambling if you think you are not lucky or this is not your lucky day then you can opt to play skill-based games, and if there comes a day that you are off in your skill-based games then you can opt to play slot games and try your luck, I prefer skill-based games but if I'm off I go for luck based game.

They also have their drawbacks: for example, if you are an amateur and play chess against a pro who has been playing chess all his life, you don't have a single chance, this way your batch is no different from a robot or a script.
I also play chess, and as far as I know, all players try to play with a very short time per game so that the cheater does not have time to use the computer's hints.

If you are trying to play with just the slots and any games does not require skill you only need is to have a time allotment and luck to win the price

But if you want to play into card games and sports bets you should now take pure skills, knowledge, experience, and luck if you want to win because it's too hard if you can not control the situation all of those are still dependent on them.

Skill games for me are one of the risks to play because you cannot measure the capability of a person.

Well, you won't play in a game where you lack experience in a game, and probably if you can't measure the person's capability in a game, you can know based on experiences, concept, and idea what he/she will do. If I know myself that I'm very good at a specific gambling game, I'll go play with it and spent all the bettings on where I have odds in winning.

For some, it might be risky but I realize that it depends on the person if he lacks experience or not, but for me who is casually playing gambling, traditional gambling games is better.

While you are correct on what you say one of the things I have noticed is that very few people have the necessary skills to accurately measure how good they are at something, someone could be terrible at skilled based games and still think they are great, in most cases these delusions are harmless which is why we have them but when it comes to gambling it can be extremely dangerous to do such thing as you are putting money at risk and by the time you discover you are no good at those games then you have lost all your money.

You consider this as risky compare to the luck and chances? Well, if you don't trust your skills in the first place you are already lost even the game hasn't started yet. It all depends on your perspective on how you see things differently even if your opponent is skillful, every gamers should have at least a secret weapon under their sleeves. It's called outsmarting your opponent just like how you play chess you planned carefully your next move, that's how skills should work.

Skill are the secret weapon in gambling? I think that's great. In skill-based games, in my opinion, a confident attitude toward our abilities (skill) is very important because this is the most appropriate way to make yourself excited to beat your opponent even though there are time when the reality is different. Without this attitude, I think we will continue to be haunted by doubts throughout the game and it wouldn't be good. Just to say, never underestimate all opponent because it could be a boomerang that will hit us back.

Every gambler wants to win more, but as you start looking for ways to improve your skills and your results you can see that it can lead to good results.
And there are many different ways to learn more about gambling and start improving your skills without spending a fortune, you can improve your gambling skills by reading books on gambling masters, tutorials on youtube and reading a lot about gambling skills or anything else.
Skills will give you a chance to win if you continue to hone them well.

The skills-based casino games give less R:R for gambler compared to the luck-based casino slots but the winning chance is very high depending on the ability to paly and experience. The Blackajck, Poker, and Esports are well-known skill games in both bookies and casinos, each player has a different level of playing skills which can be crucial during the gameplay. I usually prefer to count cards in Blakcjack if the deck counts are less than 8.

I don't remember where exactly I read those studies as it was long ago and I don't have a special interest in the topic, just curiosity.

But in wikipedia they talk about this phenomenon related to skill games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_control

And I have found an abstract at Elsevier about a research that could be interesting to read https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0148296315001320

I hope you enjoy :)

Games that I played based on skills are Sports betting, Poker and Tongits (a traditional card game here).

They are fun to play with but aside from your skills (to have an edge to win) luck is also necesssary in order to have a high chance of winning.

So having skills plus luck are needed, thats why there are gamblers who make gambling as profession or relying on it for a living.

That's the wonder of playing skill games.

Even with a bad set, you can turn the table, for example with the card-game you mentioned and for other card games as well.

Luck won't just come to us if we don't have skills. And even with a good set, without skills, winnings are not always 100%. But for the part that I will use my skills to rely on gambling to make living, that's a no for me.

We can't feel that luck if we don't do anything to win.
It called skilled-games because it definitely requires skills to play. Yeah, if you have the skill you can make a change of the game. That is why if you could look into a game between a newbie and a 10-year-old gambler, you can see the difference in how they play. Because the more you've got in gambling especially in this field, the more you have gained knowledge and improve your skills.

Games are classified into two things which are luck based and skill based and its understandable on what are the traits or characteristics that is mainly needed for you to make money
or able to win and since we do talk about skill games then it does mean that knowledge and skills will be giving you an edge to win the game and of course the last recipe would be luck
because when we do talk about gambling where you do need luck in most case.Its up to ours on how we do deal with it and we should be aware on how we gonna play
basing off on to the probabilities.

That's why professional gamblers are more often than not skilled in table games instead off slots, dice, roulettes, etc., because those games are mostly, if not all, reliant on luck. It's actually understandable, since making a job out of luck sounds like a joke, table games like poker on the other hand, still have that feel of actually being able to be in control, even though it may be partial. You could say that gambling is split into two sides, one for the professional and one for the casual/entertainment side, just like how other games work. Casual equates to playing both table games and luckbased games, while professional would solely be limited to table games that actually include skill instead of purely luck.

In some point his right since sometimes we underestimate our opponent when we see them but I'm still not convinced about skill based is more riskier than luck based game since actually we cannot do anything on luck based game and we will just rely on the result at the end of the day while on skill based game we can adjust based on the gameplay of our enemy.

talking about that topic. One day someone asked me why I didn't play the lottery? I replied at the same time because it depends on luck, the person can spend years playing lottery and spend a lot of money on buying lottery tickets and someday someone will buy just one ticket and win the lottery, imagine the frustration that the person who stayed for years buy lottery tickets and never won and hear that someone else bought a lottery ticket and won? that's why I don't like luck-based gambling, I prefer sports betting I'm learning blackjack

If that person is not thinking about how many times he will spend to hit the jackpot, he will not face frustration because he buys the ticket because of fun.
He will not stop until he can win the jackpot. Besides that, to buy the lottery ticket, I am sure the price is not too expensive, and he can use only small money to buy that ticket.
The lottery gives people a hope to hit the jackpot, so many people like to buy the ticket.
Many people dream that they will win on the lottery someday, and they will not regret to spend much money to win the prizes.

Well, I think it's a part of the skills or strategy to never underestimate your opponent just because you trust your skills. Always expect that the opponent had something down on their sleeves so be prepared because anytime they can throw it right in your face. That would give you a short-term shock effect if you didn't expect it to happen enough time for your opponent to flip the game.

Following your definition of what is a skill based game, the examples you provided poker, blackjack, betting always rely on chance of random. So you need to be skilled and lucky.
The only game i enjoy to play is Chess and it's a pure skill based game which still hasn't a place in the online gaming market to win from it. However, it can be built in a game-machine where the player can play and win in different levels.
Like 70% of voters, i voted for skill based games. Seems like not everybody in the Gambling board are lucky gamblers :)

Yes, we cannot deny that sometimes we need the luck even if the game is based on the skills. I understand what you mean, skill isn't the only factor to success but the luck factor is always there to be a part in determining the result. However, relying on gambling isn't the right way. You really risk your life once you rely on gambling to earn money. For me, gambling can be your side job, but not for a regular job or your main source to get income.

To increase the chances of winning the skill game requires a lot of practice. without practice, it would be difficult to win this type of skill game, as it is very different from gambling which only requires luck.

I think gambling with bounties is almost the same even though it is different, the similarity is that both are not the right choice to become a job, maybe for additional income it doesn't matter, because if it becomes the main job and suddenly gets a loss then how to cover daily needs at that time?
but it all depends from everyone's point of view :)

Actually I would not advise other people to make gambling a side job because gambling is not the right job. Gambling is a game that in reality is betting money, no one says a gambler is successful but many people would say they are lucky. Winning at gambling is hope, making the right choice and betting something on it is effort.

If gambling is made into work then money is the goal and when this perception sticks to the gambler, then I believe it is a sign of problem gambler.

But gaming skills are also a big qualification big companies are realizing it and starting to value but it depends on luck. The skills that are created by playing games and participating in competitions year after year can be put to good use in the workplace. if one only plays for the sake of playing and does not think about the skills with which to play the game it may not be very helpful for him to gamble.

Maybe that helps him enjoy playing the games because every person has their own reason for playing gambling. The gaming skills need learning to familiar and master the game, but that doesn't mean after we become a master, we will always win the games. There will be many others who have skills above us which can win those games. If you think that skill games can satisfy you, you can try to learn more about the games to have more chances to win.

skills and then depends on luck ? why you said qualification? you mean gaming or gambling companies will recruit you if they saw that you are skillfull enough ? thats true but what if your a solo gamer and not playing in order to get discovered  . you can do what you want , play whatever style you like and dont force your self to be the best because itl only give you pressure and discouragement if ever you didnt meet your expectation .

games and gamble can be different too . games are meant to be played for fun but gambling can be played for money making and for that you need a skill but it can also be enjoyed without it

If you are very good at card counting, there will be no problem with it, what I mean when I say good is when your emotions don't show any signs of card counting. Because for me, it is also considered a skill. Even if we say that most of the gamblers are focusing on luck, you are already if you have the skill to memorize the cards and predict the outcome of the game. But I could not consider blackjack as a form of skill games because most of the skill games require more physical activity, practice, and time to win. An example would be arcades and word games.

Blackjack is a skill-game when you are against real-human. Skill is needed here because you are about to challenge against the dealer's card. If you are against the house, then you are purely relying on luck.

There is a call for every turn so it depends on how far you are satisfied with your card set.

Just like in Poker, that specific executed call will be the basis of how your opponents will make their next move.

I just heard that the site blackjack.fun, a gambling site that purely focuses on blackjack, will add multiplayer features. That's the battle between skills if that will implement.

I just voted for the skill games. Who wants to bet with me that who will win the poll is the skill games?  :D :D :D

hahahahaha I'd bet on skill games too.

Skill games are much cooler imo.

Way better to be able to be rewarded by your habiities and having the possibility of improving in a game than only playing and having to rely in pure luck.
From the skill games poker is quite cool.

I'd also consider trading as a game of skill as some pointed here.
A lot of discipline and emotional control is needed.

There's no doubt the skill games will win on the poll rather than the chance game since in skill games there's a higher chance of winning and your winning is based on your skills but if you don't have any skills at all I think the traditional slots is fit for you.

The illusion of control is real but it is the most prominent when the game is completely based on luck, after all there is nothing you can do for the roulette to fall on the number you want and yet I see many strategies for the roulette online and betting patterns that supposedly give good results when it has been proven mathematically that such things do not work, however in skilled based games at  least part of the illusion is real as you indeed have some control over the turn of events making it not as prevalent as it would be otherwise.

The problem is that the skill ceiling in blackjack is very low and any croupier who has completed the course will easily beat any professional blackjack player simply due to the fact that mathematics is on his side. In poker, the situation is roughly similar, but all the players are on equal terms.

Seems kinda cool, you can bet on skill games a few times I've seen but externally not within the casino itself.    Its harder to regulate when its 3rd party games being bet on but within a casino seems a fine idea to test out and see if people enjoy themselves on it.   Its very hard to call this in advance, slots work because its equal opportunities and anyone can win is both the attraction and downside.
   A skill game can be hard to acquire a base of players who understand and want to put in the effort to improve their ability to win.

Skill games have a risk but it is called skill games because you have the chance to minimize the risk by being skilled. And I should add that skilled players can measure the capability of an opponent if they've seen them play, and of course they know they are skilled that is why they can think of their next move to win the game. I think you've got the opposite of what's riskier and not, because on skilled games, risk can be minimize, but in luck games, there's always a fixed risk of losing, you can't even measure the capability of your luck.

Yes majority of gambling games are more on luck so there's no guarantee to win. This is the reason why gamblers who are not prepared for the outcome tend to chase back what they lost due to lack of acceptance losing their money.

Having a knowledge and strategy to use for a particular game is better, but skill based game doesnt necessarily mean of sure profit, you just have a high chance.

For me the game that I know of where you use certain skills are mostly card games like poker and black jack. I am not sure how you can put slot machines in the same level with poker and other more sophisticated gambling like mah-jong. If you think about it, playing slots has something to do with pushing buttons and then waiting for luck to make sure you get the same images on a row. I maybe wrong of course, but my opinion about games that require certain skills is that it will be hopefully the most played games in casinos and I am also interested more in making sure these skilled players should also share their abilities to non skilled players. And I mean sharing their expertise in gambling and staying productive and staying away from anxiety and over gambling.

I was running so good in black jack in the last few months. I kept always breaking even or finish with a nice profit. But now after 2 weeks of gambling a bit more, I am down over $180, which is really frustrating. I kept trusting my strategy and believed in the skill aspect of the game. After running hot for so long I kept forgetting about the luck factor more and more. The rest of my bankroll is for my poker games so now I need to take a break from black jack until November. The last weeks just made me realise that luck is still a big part of gambling.

In gambling there is no such thing as skill and more precisely how our luck from day to day, is not the same as coin price analysis in terms of trading that we can learn from time to time, in terms of pure gambling how luck is on our side, there are times when only one the experiment we immediately got a jack pot, but on the other hand, when we have tried many times, we never got a jack pot because we haven't had any luck at all. I have also tried the mines game on stake, still the analysis I use can always be defeated by their game system, from here we conclude that the skill in the gambling game is absolutely from luck on our side or not.

I also think that some sort of luck is always required in gambling. Many rummy sites in India are operating just with excuse that they are providing skill based games. Prediction based games are also able to run with this excuse only in India.

However, if the games are fair , I do not have problem with these games. For this purpose, one must ensure that he is playing on a trusted site with good reviews. There are many such sites advertising on this forum itself and one can choose as per his interests.

Mathematics is only on the casino side mostly because they have those large multidecks with auto shufflers essentially negating any real chance at card counting. Still, with good predictive analysis you can get your odds on blackjack to pretty darn close to 50/50 which is better than most games.

I don't know why many people don't like slot game this time around just because the game required luck not experience to win.
That's why I prefer skill game because it hard for someone to miss the bet for the match. I think skill game have this potential of making good money without more stress.

yeah it is better to play skills game.

However, I think it is more better to play esports because you can really showcase your skills or may it be called as talent. It could also be rewarding like if you really intend to master the game you wanted to play like here in our place to which Dota2 is always played by the gamer may it adults or kids.

I know that kids should have gone studying in school but they tend to have more time than adult playing or jusy fun of watching other gamer playing. Other internet cafe are not advising the kids or telling them that standby in the cafe is not allowed. However, mostly internet cafe does allow them to standby in the internet cafe which is a negative part of that kid growing up.

Looks like skill based games are clearly winning and tearing apart the slots games but then when you see the casinos there are hardly any skill based games apart from a few cards games. Maybe in coming time casinos will implement some skill based games and also some PvP games so that we can compete against players and not against a giant house.

I love skill based games like Chess and actually I play paid fantasy games where we have to make our team of certain players and compete against other players based on the performance of our team and players we get points and highest points win, but those games are available only in fiat no crypto based games out there yet.

It all depends on how big the dealer's deck is. Some players are able to count cards perfectly and place bets when they are sure that this time there is a great chance of winning. I would say that blackjack is much more demanding on the player's skill than playing roulette or dice.
You also mentioned poker. I used to play this game quite often, and thanks to the skill, I even managed to win small tournaments on PokerStars. I know that some players have been playing poker for many years and make a living from it. Is it possible to earn only on luck for many years? I think not. They play professionally.

Not a fan of Chess but there are plenty of skill games in live gambling providers. Blackjack is clearly the winner here because the perfect Blackjack strategy is the most common cheatsheet used by gamblers. The Bacarrat is a luck-based low skill game but both games have the lowest house edge, IMHO. The wizard of odds website has the calculations for finding the house edge after the dealer shows up the face card but on average the house edge is around 1.5%. Poker is not my cup of tea due to the high level of required skill and I can't bluff without showing my emotions.

A gambler who has skills will make blackjack, poker, or other card games as their favorite gambling games because they can use their skills to beat the opponent. They will prefer to play the gambling games base on the skills than to use the base of the game on the luck because they think that they will have a chance to win if they play the games that base on the skills.

Perhaps, they can play gambling games based on the luck for some other time to see if they have other luck on those games or not. Skill games really need more time to learn and understand the games, and if you do not have time to learn, then perhaps, the luck games will be the games for you to play.

I actually prefer slots and luck based games over skill based games because I have been cheated numerous times in skill based games and the opponent used scripts such that computer was making his moves and I was always losing. These kind of cheating can never be eliminated because we are playing games online and cannot see the player so he can use various bots and hacks to cheat and win against us.

I had a match with my friends as a squad and we played a paid PubgM tournament against a team and we got brutally cheated as they used ESP hacks and killed us all within moments and we cannot claim anything since there is no way to prove that they were cheating so I rather ride my luck then someone else fooling me.

Yep,,, I always see the same few names play in poker if I enter, so it is very clear that those with a bit of skill can beat the average population and make their games +EV (by taking other player pots early and taking tournament prize cash). I wish I was as good in such card games but I know my place:) No skill means gamble just for fun;)

Apart from having adequate skills, a gambler should also have mental toughness. Good skills without having mental toughness will make their steps less consistent, but if they have mental toughness so they can play consistently, calm in every situation, and wouldn't make many mistakes that could cause them to lose.

For me, gambling games are a form of addiction where the players believed that in the near future they will become rich at once when they hit the jackpot. That's why most of them rely on luck, not on skills dependent although some of them applied strategy for them to get profit most of the time.

No, the context of the OP is that there are casinos that offer skill-based games and it doesn't mean that there will be no risk there. It will still be based on luck as these casinos will not operate these skill based games if it was in the first place, easy. Though, the benefit of this is that gamblers will have a large variety of games to play with as it adheres to their type of player whether they want more action, or just want minimal movements and rely solely on luck.I just wonder if sports bet is considered as skill-based game since the skills are handled by the players, not by the bettors.

I didn't think that there would be a skill games in casino. I tried to open your games in the blog you've linked in your post but it looks like non of them are working for me. I think it's restricted in my country but I opened an account in Bitcasino. Still I prefer sports games if talking about skill games

Skill based games without a doubt can help you to minimize the risks when you are gambling but that is not all you still need to carefully monitor your capital at all times, after all is not rare even for a skilled player to make the mistake of getting mad when something does not go his way and then to try to recover his money in a single bet, if you do this then it does not matter how skilled you are in that game you will eventually lose all your money as it is impossible to survive for long with those kind of money management skills.

You can have good skills in card games if you learn more about that games ;D
That is a requirement to be a good poker player and the other card games. But you can just gamble for fun without learning if you don't want to learn.
Perhaps, to learn poker game needs a passion for searching for many lessons, so we only see the same few names play in poker because people think that poker is one gambling game that needs skills to play.


Without having mental toughness, that player can get a bluff from other players, and he can't manage his emotion or think how to get rid of the other player's trick. Having skills, calm in every situation will be needed in poker games and other gambling games base on skills. Instead, getting bluff from other players will not make him give up, but that is a challenge for him to defend his position.

Actually with the last type you've mentioned, it's true that it requires skills.

There are many gambling games that do require skills. You can depend with your luck but it's wise to have a strategy and skill as you gamble. It's common to a gambler to have a skill in his niche game.

Actually skill game is a wide term because there are 2 types of games when we talk about skill based games.

1- Completely skill based games: You won't find such games on any casino because these games are like chess which no one is much interested in playing online for money because there is an element of cheating always there with 100% skill games.
2- Partial Skill and partial luck based games: These are slowly getting famous as you need some luck and you need to use some skill/brain to win in these games. I give a small example like if you have 20 in blackjack and you press "HIT" it means you made a mistake and even luck cannot save you although no matter how skillful you are it always needs luck.

In fact the division that you make between skill based games does not exist, there are games in which luck plays almost no factor and there are those in which it its more prominent but your skill level should be high enough to overcome it, lets look at poker even if you have a lot of bad luck and you do not get any decent cards your skill should reflect this and you should avoid playing any big hands during that time and once your luck comes back and you get decent cards again then you can begin to play them to their maximum potential.

In fact, blackjack is very difficult to classify as a skill game even partially. The problem is the very low maximum skill level. If in chess you can improve endlessly, then in blackjack you just need to remember on which numbers to stop drawing a card.

Haven’t heard of skill game in casino slots, the only skill game I know in gambling is Poker. Preferably skill games are better because your chances of winning rely on your skills and experience in a particular game compared to a non-skilled games which are riskier.

I'm not sure there is any sort of casino based slots that can be skill based - they are all controlled by automated algorithms and programmed odds to benefit the house. There are very few games you will find in a casino that are truly skill based - it's possible to get a small advantage against the house by playing perfect blackjack strategy from what I've read in the past. Poker also involves a heavy amount of skill and understanding all the odds as the hand progresses, but it does involve an element of bluffing which can make it slightly harder to build an advantage.

Blackjack and Poker are skill games but there is much difference between real-life and online casino games. The bluff on Poker is dangerous in online casinos but the chances are high for professional poker players to control the game with experience. Blackjack and craps have better winning odds, having the ability to throw dices on crap and counting the cards give an advantage to the gambler.

Somebody could think of a kind of arcade slots like where you'd play pinball slots with combinations being selected based on the places the ball hits.

There are versions based on this idea but they aren't really skill-based like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SevQsYM1Odo

It would be more fun if you could actually hit the ball like in real slots.

The Japanese have a type of skill based slot machine called pachinko. Check it out!

In playing gambling, almost all players on average use techniques not only hoping for luck, for example in playing in high low slots, every two times a low possibility appears high, so not only rely on luck, we also have to have expertise and the ability to read the movements of the gambling system. If you continue to rely on luck, maybe the chances of getting profit at gambling are very slim, every day you will definitely lose if you don't have a good pattern and skill. Almost every game in gambling must have its gaps and we have to take advantage of the smallest gaps in order to get big wins and profits.

It is still dependent on pure luck and nothing more. We may call it wishful thinking but it has absolutely nothing to do with skill. ;)

That is simply blind belief. It doesn't actually provide anything other than a sense of trust about your luck, which may or may not really be in your favor. Not mincing my words, you're just lying to yourself about the chance of you actually winning since you lost twice in a row already. Chances are always reset with always try, so it's always possible to actually lose for your entire session without winning even once, so face that hard reality.

Read the movement of the gambling system? What are you a robot or something? Even robots wouldn't be able to actually show the results of a system made for pseudo randomization. It can, however, calculate the number of results and chances for each, but it can never identify whether you would win or not for each roll.

I prefer traditional slots, the skill games are dependent on luck in most aspects so I prefer to just play original slots. I’m not keen on relying on my relative lack of skill playing games which I’m clearly not an expert on.
I prefer to takes my chances with traditional slots for sure.

Most skill games are card games including poker. I think even skill games depend on luck. It still depends on our technique because after all, gambling is still gambling and there's still no guarantee of winning.  Despite relying on your skills, it still isn't enough to have an assurance that you'll still earn and win.

It's 50-50, you must have luck on cards but if you have experience, knowledge, and skills on that game, of course, you will not risk if you have nothing to do with your bad cards. Also, even if you have bad cards, you can still fool the opponent by using bluffing skills, it will always depend on you. You can always fold anytime, it's not obligated to bet always, in that way you will not lose.

Even though poker is a skill based game, there is a lot of luck involved. For example in my last two tournaments I went all in with AA and KK. Both of the hands where clear favourites ore flop and should have won in most cases, but I got busted against a set of 6s and my Kings vs a 89 offsuited straight. Sad times. Eventually the luck will come back, we just need to stick to our strategies and hope for the best.

Luck would always be a main factor for you to win neither you do play with strategic type of games or luck based ones or even on poker.
There are really times which you do really feel confident on your hand but you dont know on whats on the other side or on your opponents hand too.
I have experience several frustrations like these where i do believe that ill surely won it but it gave out the opposite outcome.

The advantage here on strategic or skill based one is that you can apply your skills and knowledge which will add up into
your winning chances against others.

There are other skilled based games, the other major example is sports betting, even if the house edge is there you can overcome it by having a deep knowledge about the sport and the players, now while it may seem impossible to be more knowledgeable than the casinos at the same time you do not have to take the odds as they first appear, the odds of a match change not only to reflect the will of those making the bets, sometimes casinos need to balance their books as well and they give better offers once the market has been open for a long time giving you the chance of getting better odds than otherwise possible.

Playing games in a slot machine is not basically called as skilled based game co'z your opponent might be a computer or a real person. And also the game can be manipulated by the computer. If you want a real skilled based game you should play online games like mobile legends, wild drift and etc. your skills can be tested by those game and you can also play with money involved by betting.