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September 25, 2020, 06:22:35 PM
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Once the bounty system cleans up then higher quality projects will be able to shine.
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September 25, 2020, 07:47:29 PM
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I think bounty hunters should avoid promoting scam projects .One should make research on a project before deciding to promote it  even though sometimes it is difficult to identify all the scam projects.It is just important to investigate no matter how little before participating in any bounty.

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September 25, 2020, 07:54:14 PM
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Sometimes even the project managed by reputed manager had issues with paying the rewards and even many of them didn't have any value when token got distributed to bounty participants but still people are okay to accept any of their terms and start promoting the bounties without any knowledge about that project.
It does not mean that once a project is managed by a reputable manager, the project will always end up successful. Sometimes, bounty managers are just making their tasks because they are just being paid but when the project turns into a scam one once the project ends, it is already the team behind the project that should be blame and not the bounty manager alone. Same with those bounty hunters, they will surely render their services and keeps promoting the project not knowing what will be the future of the said project.
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September 25, 2020, 10:55:51 PM
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Recently, a manager rejected my article.  Although everything was done according to the rules.  I read other articles he accepted and saw that some of them are worse than mine.  One gets the impression that only the articles of their people were accepted.  There was a vague explanation to my question, and in the end I did not understand why my article was not accepted.  I decided not to contact such managers anymore and to choose projects only from honest managers.

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September 26, 2020, 07:06:12 AM
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It is just important to investigate no matter how little before participating in any bounty.
Nah, I don't think they will make a research first before jumping in simply because it takes time to do so. Of course, every bounty hunters want to be first in the line thus they are joining suddenly as soon as the opportunity opened. And when things get f*cked up, boom! Instant regrets.

Recently, a manager rejected my article.  Although everything was done according to the rules.  I read other articles he accepted and saw that some of them are worse than mine.  One gets the impression that only the articles of their people were accepted.  There was a vague explanation to my question, and in the end I did not understand why my article was not accepted.  I decided not to contact such managers anymore and to choose projects only from honest managers.
I feel sorry for your experience but at least you already learned a lesson there. That is more important than anything else. So next time, don't be hasty. If you find the manager not trustworthy then don't apply, lots of time and effort will be saved by doing so Wink.
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September 26, 2020, 07:13:01 AM
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The solution is simple - promote bounties only that are managed by reputed manager or a team member. But you should have a strong believe in if. Otherwise dont spend time on them.

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September 26, 2020, 07:24:33 AM
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I think bounty hunters should avoid promoting scam projects .One should make research on a project before deciding to promote it  even though sometimes it is difficult to identify all the scam projects.It is just important to investigate no matter how little before participating in any bounty.
Scam projects are like real nowadays, as you've said its hard to identify it because it seems legit and you wont even think its a scam.

But I agree we need to do a research before promoting the project, verify their legitimacy and only follow a trusted bounty manager. It is one of an indication that the project is legit since reputed bounty manager wont risk his reputation for a scam project.

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September 26, 2020, 07:34:19 AM
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The solution is simple - promote bounties only that are managed by reputed manager or a team member. But you should have a strong believe in if. Otherwise dont spend time on them.
That's just the last solution which is very simple and has been widely used by everyone in this forum, but for now it is very difficult to find bounties that are managed by the best managers and by the project team itself, even if there are only a few, and because of this. making bounty participants must always analyze and make research repeatedly to find out that the bounty is really good, because the best managers can also be fooled by smart project teams.

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September 26, 2020, 02:25:16 PM
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Yeah, that's why we should not join the campaign that doesn't provide escrowed payment for the participants.
I think the most important thing we should know before join the campaign is that we know we will be paid.
otherwise, we will just wasting time if join campaign then it turning to a scam project later.

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September 26, 2020, 06:24:42 PM
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What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises


Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958
For this situation, my advice for hunters, check Ann thread, white paper and partnership. Some managers are very unique, you shouldn't wait to join. In other campaigns you can wait and check very deeply some week. Some legit projects can scam in different ways, like payaccept campaign, injective protocol. Some projects didn't make pin post this important news.

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October 06, 2020, 07:09:50 AM
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This is sadly true and the KYC angle is the killer for me. I have refused going through the processes of submitting KYC documents for several bounties I slaved for because of this. The AMZ project team had to remove my 3771 or so tokens which were initially sent to my account on their site because I refused to give up my personal data. That happened to all hunters who didn't process the KYC requirement with them. I don't know if the project later got listed on any exchange or not after that. I also reported ClipX steals KYC data and shuts down. That was a project that ran away with investors money and hunters' personal data. Really, it's a sad outing for bounty hunters who submit KYC for mere paltry rewards for which they aren't even sure it will be worth more than a dollar at the end. Hunters should stop rushing into bounties like their lives depend on them because most of these bounties eventually end up worthless.

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October 06, 2020, 07:34:43 AM
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There are so many shitty bounties nowadays and the reason why this type of bounty still exist is due to the participants encouraging it by promoting their project.
I am not shocked by this since there seems to be more people who got interested in crypto back in 2017 when bounties was paying good.
And those people seems to only join any bounty that they could without even looking for details about the project.
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October 06, 2020, 07:45:47 AM
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Yeah, that's why we should not join the campaign that doesn't provide escrowed payment for the participants.
I think the most important thing we should know before join the campaign is that we know we will be paid.
otherwise, we will just wasting time if join campaign then it turning to a scam project later.
Yes, what you say is good because it is for the sake of not detrimental to the time of bounty hunters, but I see that there are not many bounty campaigns that implement that including the bounty campaign that you participate in.
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October 06, 2020, 07:46:44 AM
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I think circumstances differ, and there are most times clear indications or intents. Every Bounty manager most times do not have access to token theirself.

So if you find yourself a transparent Bounty manager, that keeps you updated every moment, even if a project ends of failing to pay, you note that it wasn't the bm fault.

Example can be Digitalbits bm, or perhaps arteezy, who has ups and downs in Bounty management
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October 06, 2020, 07:55:56 AM
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The solution is simple - promote bounties only that are managed by reputed manager or a team member. But you should have a strong believe in if. Otherwise dont spend time on them.
Yes, the solution is very simple indeed, there are only two things that are very different in this case, first to find out the famous manager will obviously be very easy, but to find out the original project team is still very difficult because remembering the scammers who are still very clever at tricking their data that could seem like a real team.
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October 06, 2020, 07:56:58 AM
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I agree with OP. There are some managers who intend to scam, so they bring a scam project in bitcointalk in various ways and promote it with bounty hunters. And bounty hunters help those scam projects with free big promotions. So I think bounty hunters also have some responsibility to research whether the project is good or bad before joining bounty. Scam projects managers will always look for your weaknesses, add new rules and try to cut your payment.

That's why the most important thing for bounty hunters is to choose reputed managers. I have seen that reputed managers do not launch much bounty because they launch a bounty after a lot of research, as a result all the bounty launches are solid projects. I think now is the time for bounty hunters to use their time wisely.

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October 06, 2020, 08:06:28 AM
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There are so many shitty bounties nowadays and the reason why this type of bounty still exist is due to the participants encouraging it by promoting their project.

Lots of bounty hunters are just blindly joining hoping for luck to come out and bring them huge rewards, most probably the scam developers gained attentions since promoters are willing to participate even there's no assurance of possible rewards.

I am not shocked by this since there seems to be more people who got interested in crypto back in 2017 when bounties was paying good.

Indeed, and they are all thinking the same, hoping for the one that will bring them an easy catch.

And those people seems to only join any bounty that they could without even looking for details about the project.

Sad true, there are just jumping in without doing any research, just join and hope for luck and not the real development.
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October 06, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
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Well if you brave enough you can mention any scam manager so everybody can avoid that manager. Last project i participated is legit. I follow a suggestion from a thread here. Maybe someone can follow it just search "safe campaigns in the altcoin section".

There are a fine lines between scam manager, a manager that promotes scam or a manager that was tagged by community for promoting scam.

We all know reputed bounty manager bubbalex. Almost all of projects, that run bounty campaign under his management are successful. His last bounty - DIA. Great project. Its token value price increased multiple times and everything was great until KuCoin hack. DIA tokens happened to be among stolen funds. Because of that, team postponed first batch of bounty distribution. Then, while KuCoin were investigating the hack (I think this was the reason), DIA postponed distribution for few more days. Yesterday was the day of distribution and nothing happened. Some bounty hunters started to blame bubbalex for not distributing reward, stealing rewards, not receiving tokens when price was high and etc. Some were going to create scam accusation topics here against DIA and bubbalex. Luckely tokens were sent today.

Is bubbalex a scam manager ? In someone's eyes yes, because he was not able to give them what they expected. For other (and for me) - an excellent manager. Everything is individual. So mentioning someone as a scam manager wont really help others.

Another example Sylon. Many participated in bounties under his management in 2017-2018 and got profitable rewards. I've participated in 2 of his campaigns and got nothing. Because projects turned scam and he gave me 0 stakes because I've promoted many other bounties.

 
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October 06, 2020, 01:56:26 PM
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I think some of the bounty participants are not aware of the past history of the manager running the bounty that they just join. They get right away attracted by the amount of rewards promised by the campaign not checking if indeed they will receive stakes from they hard work later on. There should be a way these managers will be tag as scammers also.

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October 06, 2020, 04:01:40 PM
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for bounty hunters it is good to check the bounty to be promoted, if you feel there is an obstacle or there are things that contain an element of fraud such as very expensive coin prices, giving large amounts of prizes, and poor project websites also the possibility that the project is a scam.

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