Why don't you stop rushing to promote bounty from a scammed bounty manager

[pandanaran]

I agree with some of the points that you have said above, especially related to KYC. if the project is valid then there is no need to change the rules for doing KYC at the end of the project. , if the project is honest then say it at the beginning when the project is just launched. for managers like Bubbalex he is very kind, honest, thorough and precise in project token payments.

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[Galley]

And how to determine that a bounty manager is a fraud. I think that knowing this for sure, no one will work with such a project and such a manager. And you can only determine by taking part in the project.

[Kupid002]

And how to determine that a bounty manager is a fraud. I think that knowing this for sure, no one will work with such a project and such a manager. And you can only determine by taking part in the project.

Right now it's hard to determine if the project is fraud if you will  only base on who's manager manage the campaign . There are many newly created account right now that are managing a bounty if you visit bounties altcoin more of them only use newbie because they know that there is a risk if they will use high ranked account and theybcan also be tagged if someone think you are promoting fraud campaign.

[EMV]

Some projects look very interesting and even large investors are dying in them.  In fact, at the end of the ICO, the price of the token is zero.  I think that bounty managers also trust the project team.  you yourself need to be able to distinguish a scam from a normal project.

[Francis Freeman]

Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.

If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958

Of course I completely agree with the OP. We promoters should not promote all coins taht are here but we should do a round of checking and make sure they aren't obvious scams.

[arbifahrozy]

Well i had a lot experiences about fraud project. But for now i join a bounty project based on the bounty manager. I trust on some bounty managers because they already proof that his projects is legit. Dont follow hype project or high reward project.

[palle11]

Introduction of new rules after bounty campaign ends whether it is the requirement of the KYC or reward tokens lockup or payment in small installments or trying to intentionally delay reward distribution are highly condemnable acts from the campaign owners and managers and all these excuses should be compiled as a charge sheet against these project and campaign owners and community should shame them publically.

Change of rules have been the practice with many bounties. The funny aspect is, they like to include the clause that they have the right to change it in the thread. This is not a good practice. With such clause, I feel is intentional of the team.

[deadthings]

I've heard it also a lot of users get scammed by projects in bounty campaign but we can't stop the bounty hunters since it's one of the best way to earn free doing bounty works so they risking their time and efforts in chances of finding a good project even though they know majority of them is scam.

[EmmaGod]

Bounty managers have an obligation to ensure that they carry out due diligence before presenting a project to their community for promotion. Even when series of due diligence are carried out, it's still possible to end up promoting a scam project. So my advice is to consider the amount of scam projects which a bounty manager has promoted before deciding whether to boycott his bounties. We need to understand that the space is quite risky and it may be impossible to always make the right moves when it comes to security.

[isaac_clarke22]

Bounty managers have an obligation to ensure that they carry out due diligence before presenting a project to their community for promotion. Even when series of due diligence are carried out, it's still possible to end up promoting a scam project. So my advice is to consider the amount of scam projects which a bounty manager has promoted before deciding whether to boycott his bounties. We need to understand that the space is quite risky and it may be impossible to always make the right moves when it comes to security.

I just learned this before that it isn't their full responsibility to find legitimate projects to manage at. That's why I mostly avoid long time ago those BMs that are fully affiliated with the project.
Bounty managers only have the most power from that to stop the bounty, but from the start of the bounty, they aren't the responsible for a scam bounty unless that said project is visibly scam in the naked eye like it was reported multiple times already.

[gunungkembar]

We really can't stop bounty hunters from continuing to support the project of their choice even though it has indicated a scam. All decisions have risks, and when the bounty hunter has decided to support a project I don't think there is a strong reason to reject the risk.

They are looking for fortune to participate in all bounties without reviewing the project potentially the main condition for choosing a bounty, project analysis skills are required and you can study the explanations on old threads like How to select a good bounty campaign!

even though using the data that has been provided in the forum that you mentioned, I don't think I can guarantee payment to the bounty campaign participants so in my opinion you have to stay alert when you want to participate in any bounty campaign, it's better if you can see the manager first and consider all the equipment so that it can give confidence that the campaign bounty will be given to the campaign participants.

[AlexAtom]

Before we decide to promote the project and join the campaign, we must verify the campaign manager first.
Trusted manager will be good because they usually deliver what they promised and we should not join the campaign who managed by untrusted manager.
Joining in a campaign that manages by unreliable manager will waste our time only, or even lost our data due KYC requirement.

[lienfaye]

Before we decide to promote the project and join the campaign, we must verify the campaign manager first.
Trusted manager will be good because they usually deliver what they promised and we should not join the campaign who managed by untrusted manager.
Joining in a campaign that manages by unreliable manager will waste our time only, or even lost our data due KYC requirement.

Thhe problem is some bounty hunters are not careful when choosing a project to join. As long as the rewards are good enough then they will promote the project regardless if its a scam or not.

A reputed manager is one of the indication of a good bounty so choose only reputed managers to avoid scam. Of course its not a 100% guarantee but somehow you can lessen the chance of joining in scam.

[death69]

You cant stop people from joining these campaigns. They are desperate in need of money and thats why they can not make a precise decision. Most of them still think that we are living in 2017 whereas you can make money easily with bitcoin or any other scam project. Its quite painful mentioning those old days.

BItcointalk is likely a place where people can do whatever they are capable of in order to earn money. If you have talent, surely making money is no as hard as other people say. But joining blindly to any campaign can not give you the amount of money you deserve. Try to be more flexible and creative on this forum. I have stayed away from alt bounty campaign for many years

[Reatim]

Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

When will this BS stops?why always Bounty hunters are there to be blamed?

Are you serious that the team will listen to bounty Hunters even if they shout 24/7 a day about Listing of the send project?
That is a Joke and besides when the bounty campaign starts,the manager and the team deals to promise the Hunters to be paid month after the campaign but mostly ends up to 6 months to 1 year of waiting and sometimes it took longer than 1 year.

If the project is scam,then from the beginning the plan is to scam people.

[New_order]

Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

I believe some users are getting worried and fade up on lack of fulfilment of bounty promises at the end because the promises are not met as you either get scammed or the worth of your thousand units is = to a dollar ($1) at the end of many weeks.

When you work for months and dump total worth for $15 (rare case) if you get up to that, you have just paid for your data usage. What about your time? Inconveniences etc.

They take advantage of hunters that participated and not pay reward with different excuses which are :

1. KYC introduced while it was not started from beginning:
Know your customer is actually not necessary in a decentralized setting, all you need is to guide yourself or company because decentralized system should guarantee freedom. Why then introduce it at the end, to prevent participants from receiving their labour. I believe most times, this is to push out because if they are genuine, they should state it clearly from beginning that KYC is a necessary factor to receive reward. Example is bubbalex, his bounty has been one of the most sincere type I have read, from beginning to end is the way it is done. To
time for listing, times and dates for distribution.
All information about the growth of the project in different SM channels, medium, Twitter, telegram. No KYC introduced at the beginning and to the end.

2.The excuses of launch of website, app, main net, sales , soft cap are all reason you should understand you are wasting your time especially when you get shit pay.

What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises

Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958

You are absolutely right, what I feared about bounty rules is that the rules can be changed at any time, this is what gives many bounty managers the right to ask for KYC even when the bounty thread says NO KYC, they are simply abusing the rules tbh

The only thing we can do is follow bounty managers that takes their reputation very serious, like bubbalex who doesn't joke with his fellow bounty hunters and he makes sure they get paid as promised, find good bounty managers and wait to they introduce new campaigns

[kentrolla]

It's pretty hard to find scammed bounty project or a manager also no one will intent to work for a scam project, investing in bounties is always depend on us like we need to research about the project and it's specifications. We can't blame a bounty manager for a scammed project because even he works like us.

We can't stop such people's because this forum is very independent and gives opportunities to everyone. Before investing always keep In mind that we are taking risk.

[Kunnu]

Therefore it's clearly mentioned in almost every bounty that the team and bounty manager has rights to make any kind of changes in bounty I wonder why some of us don't read this important point it's bounty participant's responsibility to read the rules properly so there won't be confusions at the end of bounty campaign.

[ven7net]

Some bounty managers have been known to promote scam projects and I believe because they have users who rush to sign up, they keep being agents of scam project and not escrowing rewards.
More is that, the reasons bounty has been paying shit is because you rushing over it and they decide to list below, compare it with 2017 coins.

I believe some users are getting worried and fade up on lack of fulfilment of bounty promises at the end because the promises are not met as you either get scammed or the worth of your thousand units is = to a dollar ($1) at the end of many weeks.

When you work for months and dump total worth for $15 (rare case) if you get up to that, you have just paid for your data usage. What about your time? Inconveniences etc.

They take advantage of hunters that participated and not pay reward with different excuses which are :

1. KYC introduced while it was not started from beginning:
Know your customer is actually not necessary in a decentralized setting, all you need is to guide yourself or company because decentralized system should guarantee freedom. Why then introduce it at the end, to prevent participants from receiving their labour. I believe most times, this is to push out because if they are genuine, they should state it clearly from beginning that KYC is a necessary factor to receive reward. Example is bubbalex, his bounty has been one of the most sincere type I have read, from beginning to end is the way it is done. To
time for listing, times and dates for distribution.
All information about the growth of the project in different SM channels, medium, Twitter, telegram. No KYC introduced at the beginning and to the end.

2.The excuses of launch of website, app, main net, sales , soft cap are all reason you should understand you are wasting your time especially when you get shit pay.

What you can do if you like the project and you are not sure of  the promises

Save up to buy if you don't have money, you can wait for it when it is listed and dumped, you buy cheap.


If you have not checked this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230885.msg53975958#msg53975958

You are certainly right. Recently, there are a lot of fraudulent bounty companies and many participants are left without payment. But the problem of bounty participants is much deeper than just participation in a fraudulent project. The fact is that at the initial stage it is very difficult to understand whether this project is fraudulent or not until you take part in it. This is called risk. When an investor invests his funds in a particular cryptocurrency and loses his funds, he is not accused of taking part in a deliberately fraudulent project, but simply sympathizes. So why, then, are the participants in the bounty companies accused? Moreover, the project does not say that it is fraudulent, which means that there is no evidence yet, you can take part in any project. Personally, I try to focus on my knowledge, and this forum also helps me a lot in identifying fraudulent companies, for which thanks to everyone who takes part in catching scammers.

[romero121]

I've seen Bounty Managers paying from their own pocket to keep their reputation strong in the forum. Bounty Managers have their own way of analysing the potential and the team behind the project. Something happens in between, and the same makes the project turn to be a scam. This is where Bounty Managers suffer and gets bad image. Maybe there are people who does it with intention, but most trusted Bounty Managers won't get into such scam approaches.