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Title: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: tyKiwanuka on February 25, 2021, 10:38:38 AM
I read this post today and thought, hmm, I already read this post once in this thread, so was thinking about plagiarism:

I never faced any issues, and it's perfect in terms of betting. There's a lot of fun of your choice; the remarkable thing is they don't apply a fee for withdrawals, and they're fast compare to the other bets sites. The only thing I dislike is charging a high phone bill when you call customer support with a Canadian phone. Had a pleasant little surprise on my phone bill.


archived (https://archive.fo/IRNRC)

But it's not plagiarism. What this user actually does is to delete his old posts in a thread and then reposting them some days later to get paid again for them. Basically the same post was made on February 10th already, but was deleted (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5631/56313420.html) (by him (?)):

Quote
Thanks for the tutorial; for me, all the British bookies are the best. I also consider skybet, which is best in gambling games. I never face any issues, and it's perfect in terms of betting. There's a lot of fun of your choice; the remarkable thing is they don't apply a fee for withdrawals, and they're fast compare to the other bets sites. The only thing I dislike is charging a high phone bill when you call customer support with a Canadian phone. Had a pleasant little surprise on my phone bill.

See: View all unedited (or deleted) posts in How to adjust and work with the bet365 live streaming (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/530/5303201.html)



I checked the post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880473;sa=showPosts) of this user and just today he made 15 posts in 6:46 minutes, amazing ;D

I randomly checked another post and here is what I got:

This post he made as well today:

Bitcoin can not end any currency, since bitcoin is as yet very little famous among us. Half of the world doesn't know what actually bitcoins is and those who know about bitcoin accuse it of a scam. Also, how would we purchase bitcoin if the cash gets end?. We won't be able to exchange. For me, dollars or any cash ought not to end. It might make a few issues and hurt the bitcoin itself as well.


archived (https://archive.fo/n7hYh)

Posted already on Dec 26th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5593/55934821.html
Deleted and reposted on Feb 10th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5631/56313484.html
Deleted and reposted on Feb 17th: https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5636/56368162.html
And then today reposted again, after deleting the post from Feb 17th.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on February 25, 2021, 11:36:33 AM
Not the first time I've seen a user do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283810.0

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem that mods will ban users for this behavior. You should alert the campaign manager in question though, as any half decent one will immediately kick this user from their campaign.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 25, 2021, 11:45:46 AM
It could be that moderators deleted some of his posts but making 15 posts in under 7 minutes it's probably new bitcointalk record if we don't count robots and bounty applications.

I can't prove anything but this is probably purchased account that changed ownership in 2018 and he started to write in the end of 2020 after two year break .
It would be interesting to see if he still speaks Pilipinas like he did in 2017, but with google translate I guess anyone can speak foreign languages.
Much harder for him to prove ownership of addresses he used in same year.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: tyKiwanuka on February 25, 2021, 12:19:34 PM
It could be that moderators deleted some of his posts (...)

It would be a huge coincidence, if the mods always delete a good amount of his posts week after week ;D And while they are surely shitposts, they are not the worst shitposts I have ever read, so no reason for the mods to be super strict just with this user.

Tbh I find this super cheeky, even worse than the worst shitposting ever to get paid some bucks from a signature campaign. Because some shitposters might not be bad people afterall or trying to earn easy money with minimalistic efforts - maybe they can't do any better for various reasons and are just looking to support their family/kids with it. But what SmokerFace does, is just plain cheating imo.

Not the first time I've seen a user do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283810.0

Thanks, I wasn't aware of this thread and looks like this is no cutting edge technique no more in here^^


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on February 25, 2021, 02:33:27 PM
Here's some more evidence:

Post 1:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5560/55605938.html - November 16
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5632/56320549.html - February 11
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5635/56358903.html - February 16
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5643/56433872.html - February 25

Post 2:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5568/55686665.html - November 26
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5632/56320524.html - February 11
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5635/56358906.html - February 16
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5643/56433871.html - February 25

Post 3:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5643/56433871.html - December 29
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5631/56313453.html - February 10
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5636/56368166.html - February 17
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5643/56433866.html - Feburary 25

This goes on and on in the exact same pattern for many more posts, but I think that is more than enough evidence for him to be banned from his signature campaign.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Steamtyme on February 25, 2021, 04:52:21 PM
Report them to the manager, leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation. The campaign can and should then exclude them and if they so decide could probably flag them.

It's shady behaviour and if it's been done while in the same campaign, it could be enough for them to neg/flag the individual as they had already been paid for that post. Unless removed by moderators the post should remain with the accompanied advertising, that's the whole basis of the system.

Edit: I took the above action.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: The Cryptovator on February 25, 2021, 05:10:12 PM
I think there was a similar case previously I heard, so it's not new on the forum. This is one of very bad behavior for campaign participants. It's not very easy to detect for a manager, so it would be very helpful if you create a thread and forward the manager to take a look. So that participants would be kicked from the campaign.

Report them to the manager, leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation. The campaign can and should then exclude them and if they so decide could probably flag them.
Yea, I second that. It would be a nice solution for such users. I do not recommend a red tag since there are no such rules on the campaign or forum. But I think the manager would add this rule now and punish is someone caught.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: LoyceV on February 25, 2021, 05:55:33 PM
See: View all unedited (or deleted) posts in How to adjust and work with the bet365 live streaming (https://loyce.club/archive/topics/530/5303201.html)
Better link: https://loyce.club/archive/details/topic_5303201.html :)


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 25, 2021, 06:01:02 PM
making 15 posts in under 7 minutes it's probably new bitcointalk record
Nah, I don't think that's even close to a forum record.  I recall an old-timer (sort of) member getting heat for posting up a storm, and if I recall he'd said he wrote some of his posts in advance or just wrote very quickly or whatever.  Wish I could remember the member's name.

Anyway, as long as campaigns don't go by your total post count this is going to be an easy way for very lazy members to abuse the privilege of being in a campaign and as Leo pointed out it's certainly not unusual behavior--it's just another way for people who lack any motivation to write to continue to get paid for writing.  Crazy.

I would definitely point this out to the campaign manager whenever someone catches a member doing this, because even though it might not be against the rules it certainly is bending them to the point where it might as well be broken.

leave them a neutral tag explaining the situation.
That's not a bad idea either.  It's a good one, in fact.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: hosseinimr93 on February 25, 2021, 06:26:30 PM
Nah, I don't think that's even close to a forum record.  I recall an old-timer (sort of) member getting heat for posting up a storm, and if I recall he'd said he wrote some of his posts in advance or just wrote very quickly or whatever.  Wish I could remember the member's name.
I guess you are referring to taiwww (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374619).

19 posts in 2 minutes and 1 second!
taiwww (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374619) made 1 post in every 6.4 seconds on average.

taiwww's post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=374619;sa=showPosts) (Archived. (https://archive.is/OfLdj))


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Coyster on February 25, 2021, 09:18:31 PM
I think the best thing for any user to do when they prolly get busier IRL and can't make posts on the forum should be to willingly leave their signature campaign, explain to the CM their present situation, so that in the future they could still be accepted by the said manager, and then face squarely whatever is keeping them busy IRL. Periods of inactivity isn't bad, one can always make a return to the forum whenever things clear up, but deleting, and recycling previously paid posts to be paid for it over and again is plain avarice, cheating the campaign/company, playing on the campaign manager as well as everything dishonest.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on February 25, 2021, 10:17:04 PM
Thanks to all those that took out time to write me in my DM bringing my attention to this situation, thanks to the OP for his observation and also big thanks to those that contributed in making the accusations more valid. I have taken a decision and this is final. The accused will be punished with both him losing his slot in the campaign and also getting a red feedback from me.

Reason for my tagged is due to the dishonesty displayed by the accused in him trying to abuse the forum and cheating the campaign, the attitude displayed by him is uncalled-for therefore 777coin as a brand on the forum would seize to have anything to do with him.

Ps: SmokerFace added to Blacklist (BrainLess List (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274661.0)).


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Kittygalore on February 26, 2021, 10:19:45 AM
I don't get how they are plagiarizing their posts when you can easily post your own thoughts and you might even be able to formulate a better opinion. I despise this kind of people who take advantage that there is only enough moderator to monitor post and steal the words of other people, I don't get why they do it but being in a signature campaign is good thing because you get paid for your opinion and there are people/users that are stealing others words is really saying something about the person.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 04, 2021, 06:09:34 PM
I don't get how they are plagiarizing their posts when you can easily post your own thoughts and you might even be able to formulate a better opinion. I despise this kind of people who take advantage that there is only enough moderator to monitor post and steal the words of other people, I don't get why they do it but being in a signature campaign is good thing because you get paid for your opinion and there are people/users that are stealing others words is really saying something about the person.

I didn't plagiarize, just tried to bend the rules because I was not able to complete a minimum(15) Posts.
I found a good loophole in the campaign since there was no rule regarding this and even not on the forum they have such a rule so i thought i should keep it that way rather than writing a post and could focus on other works.

Reason for my tagged is due to the dishonesty displayed by the accused in him trying to abuse the forum and cheating the campaign, the attitude displayed by him is uncalled-for therefore 777coin as a brand on the forum would seize to have anything to do with him.

Ps: SmokerFace added to Blacklist (BrainLess List (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274661.0)).
I didn't mean to cheat and i don't think it's cheating since I copy pasted my own posts for 2 weeks and there was no such rule on the forum that you cannot copy paste your own posts neither it was on the campaign.
If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: LoyceV on March 04, 2021, 06:13:09 PM
If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"
You're paid to do a job, not to hand in your last week's work over and over again.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 04, 2021, 06:15:31 PM
If you call it cheating then you could've added a rule that "Users cannot copy-paste their own posts after week's end"
You're paid to do a job, not to hand in your last week's work over and over again.

It's the same work and it's not written you cannot hand over your last week's work.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: tyKiwanuka on March 04, 2021, 06:44:14 PM
Well, there is also something called common sense, not everything has to be excluded by rules.

What I don't understand is how people like you can enjoy that money (even if it's no fortune) and generally have no problem doing this ?! I would feel super bad and couldn't enjoy that money, because a) I don't deserve that money b) it's super unfair towards the other participants who do take the time and effort to make their minimum posts every week, while they surely have better things to do as well and c) I would question myself how low I have gotten, if I need to do this.

But I give you credit for showing up here, I like that.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 04, 2021, 06:59:00 PM
Well, there is also something called common sense, not everything has to be excluded by rules.

What I don't understand is how people like you can enjoy that money (even if it's no fortune) and generally have no problem doing this ?!

I didn't break any rules that is what matters here, If you go fly making rules on the go case by the base then everyone can be proven wrong.
I understand that's a small amount of money and wasn't worthy of my full time even i wasn't enjoying that money so I'll happily agree with you on that point that was the whole point of me copy pasting the posts.


I would feel super bad and couldn't enjoy that money, because a) I don't deserve that money b) it's super unfair towards the other participants who do take the time and effort to make their minimum posts every week, while they surely have better things to do as well
c) I would question myself how low I have gotten, if I need to do this.
Those are your beliefs and they don't belong to me.

But I give you credit for showing up here, I like that.
Thx


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2021, 07:07:29 PM
I didn't break any rules

There are forum rules against low value posts and re-posting the same stuff is a low/zero value contribution to the forum. Hopefully now with a documented and confirmed case it will be easier for mods to deal with you if you continue this.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Steamtyme on March 04, 2021, 07:08:39 PM
I love it. "No one specifically wrote do not copy delete and repost my "work", so I've been wronged". Oh this forum it's a gem that keeps on giving.

You're right there was no rule, but what always existed was professional standards, seeing as you see this as work and not just a benefit to engaging within the forum. So given that companies can see that you don't even feel responsible for leaving posts up for the duration of the campaign when paid for it, I imagine you're out of work. This problem has sorted itself out with a precedent instead of a rule, amazing.

You got greedy and wanted BTC for doing nothing and felt you were entitled to it. I would support any flag created by a company that you advertised for and did this to.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 04, 2021, 07:15:15 PM
I didn't break any rules that is what matters here, If you go fly making rules on the go case by the base then everyone can be proven wrong.
I'm pretty sure McDonald's don't make new employees sign a piece of paper which says "I will not spit in the food"; the absence of a specific rule is not tacit approval of such an act.

Regardless, the campaign does enforce the following two rules:
Signature Spamming that is detrimental to the discussions in threads will not count as payment.
...
Constructive posts
No unbiased person can possibly argue that deleting and reposting the same content multiple times is either constructive or not spam.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 04, 2021, 07:21:30 PM
I didn't break any rules

There are forum rules against low value posts and re-posting the same stuff is a low/zero value contribution to the forum. Hopefully now with a documented and confirmed case it will be easier for mods to deal with you if you continue this.

There were no low quality posts just recycling of content.
I would not have done it if there were rules regarding recycling same as how i don't plagiarize because it's against rules.

I love it. "No one specifically wrote do not copy delete and repost my "work", so I've been wronged". Oh this forum it's a gem that keeps on giving.

You're right there was no rule, but what always existed was professional standards, seeing as you see this as work and not just a benefit to engaging within the forum. So given that companies can see that you don't even feel responsible for leaving posts up for the duration of the campaign when paid for it, I imagine you're out of work. This problem has sorted itself out with a precedent instead of a rule, amazing.

You got greedy and wanted BTC for doing nothing and felt you were entitled to it. I would support any flag created by a company that you advertised for and did this to.

I didn't get greedy just easy money without any harm to rules, that's all. You cannot say I wanted BTC for nothing that was my content after all.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on March 04, 2021, 07:29:48 PM
There were no low quality posts just recycling of content.
I would not have done it if there were rules regarding recycling same as how i don't plagiarize because it's against rules.

I'm not talking about some nebulous "quality". Rule #1:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

Re-posting adds zero value and is pointless.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 04, 2021, 08:59:22 PM
Here's something interesting that I found:

On August 15, 2018 SmokerFace requested a loan which was apparently filled by Parodium (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162397), who held the SmokerFace account as collateral.

Thread link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4898988
Archive: https://archive.md/r5MhZ

But, for some reason, Parodium deleted his responses to that thread.  Others had quoted them before they were deleted, here're the quotes:

I can fill this loan for you, please contact me on Telegram @Parodium

Too late, unfortunately. Currently holding his account as collateral. I doubt he'll default so long as nobody tags his account.

Well, someone did tag the account; user Loan Shark did, using this post (in the loan request thread) as reference:

Just want inform anyone interested in loaning this guy. He had a loan with me before, and he actually never paid (sorta).

He had a collateral loan with me, but it fell below required levels. I asked if he was willing to deposit more collateral to keep the collateral level to minimum, he said he can't but he promises to pay the loan no matter what. In the end I ended up losing on his loan and he never did pay up.

Just something you guys should consider.

I don't have the proofs anymore as I lost my original telegram (since I've been super inactive the past couple of months). So it is up to the lender if you want to lend this guy.

Note: He also offered to give his account as payment but when the time came, he said he "sold" the account then after a few weeks he retracted that statement and said he didn't. Overall, I should have filed a case against this guy but was too lazy at the time. But seeing him here again, just makes me want to come out and tell the story.

The SmokerFace account stopped posting on the same date that the loan was granted, and didn't for over two years.  Bpip shows these security log entries for SmokerFace:

Security/Moderator Log
8/15/2018 11:00:44 AM   password changed
8/15/2018 11:04:05 AM   password changed
11/19/2018 11:56:13 PM   password changed
10/31/2020 10:14:43 AM   woke up

It appears that Parodium had control of the account for some time.  Prior to the loan SmokerFace used to post in the Filipino board regularly, but has not since his return.  It's also worth noting that Parodium doesn't, and never has posted in Filipino board, as far as I can tell.

This all brings up some questions: Is the account still in Parodium's possession?  Did the account get returned to the original owner?  Was the account sold by Parodium?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: tyKiwanuka on March 04, 2021, 09:09:15 PM
dkbit98 already hinted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5320033.msg56434923#msg56434923) that this account might have changed hands.

Prior to the loan SmokerFace used to post in the Filipino board regularly, but has not since his return.

The posts in english also differ a bit as far as I can judge, i.e. in 2017/2018 it sounded like a non-native person, but the latest posts read native (for me).


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 05, 2021, 05:32:02 AM
The worst part is that anyone who tries to explain to SmokerFace that he broke the rules will go unheard. This person has his own set of rules and his own truth. And it is useless to prove something to him. One can only guess how he lives in real life, adjusting his "truth" for everyone around him.
Lack of morality and decency, as well as poor mind for writing new posts, that's the whole characteristic of SmokerFace.  Unfortunately, he does not understand that everything in life comes back like a boomerang. He can only be pitied for his paucity of thinking.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 05, 2021, 06:54:39 AM
This all brings up some questions: Is the account still in Parodium's possession?  Did the account get returned to the original owner?  Was the account sold by Parodium?
It's confirmed account changed hand. Because Parodium had been tried to prevent a red tag from that account.

Then tag it after he has paid me back otherwise you will cause me to lose 0.012, he obviously can't scam anybody else whilst I'm holding his account.
That's the reason why Parodium has deleted his replies. At the same time, SmokerFace (Parodium) edited the thread as well. But by mistake, he edits the title with canceled, how a deal would be canceled after the deal is done? Parodium deleted all posts simply means the original owner of SmokerFace defaulted the lent amount. Simply means it's just was an account sell at the end.

Anyway, hope Parodium would clear the story behind it.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 05, 2021, 07:24:35 AM
dkbit98 already hinted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5320033.msg56434923#msg56434923) that this account might have changed hands.

Prior to the loan SmokerFace used to post in the Filipino board regularly, but has not since his return.

The posts in english also differ a bit as far as I can judge, i.e. in 2017/2018 it sounded like a non-native person, but the latest posts read native (for me).


He had a Newbie account that was selling the senior's account.
The Pharmacist tagged that account, but most likely the account was sold anyway.
For Sale Sr. Member Account Potential Legendary
- No red trust
- Have good quality posts
- No ban issue
- No loans
Start bid: 0.08BTC
BIN: 0.1BTC
https://i.ibb.co/fS1CwGN/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/8BKjZ4x)
https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=1HcG5aVavjaaeJ6aNkgvUmo6uz3WwtEVoK

There is also another account owned by SmokerFace


add me on facebook: noobfromphseller@gmail.com
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/176/176914xx.html#msg17691421) ]


Pm me here in Btctalk or message me on facebook:
noobfromphseller@gmail.com
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/180/180185xx.html#msg18018585) ]

Stalker22 reported this.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg56449754#msg56449754



Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Parodium on March 05, 2021, 08:40:51 AM
From what I can recall this account was returned to the owner several months after the loan was taken. The user could not pay so completed some writing work for me instead.

I do not know what happened once he got his account back, but can assume it changed hands given the change in writing style/purpose.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 05, 2021, 06:33:56 PM
There is also another account owned by SmokerFace
add me on facebook: noobfromphseller@gmail.com
The account is question inactive since April 25, 2017, 04:20:45 PM. So it's not worth even tag that user, but I believe that account also changed hands somehow. Because all the related accounts came from account farmer based on your presented evidence. I think more alts would be revealed by deep investigation.

From what I can recall this account was returned to the owner several months after the loan was taken.
So, the account wasn't sold by you. But I quite curious why you had deleted all the related replies there and the main thread's contents have been cleared.

Anyway, the account changed hand, that's the main fact, no matter how.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Kittygalore on March 06, 2021, 05:12:54 AM
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I didn't plagiarize, just tried to bend the rules because I was not able to complete a minimum(15) Posts.
I found a good loophole in the campaign since there was no rule regarding this and even not on the forum they have such a rule so i thought i should keep it that way rather than writing a post and could focus on other works.
Isn't bending the rules is just a borderline breaking the rules, a good loophole doesn't need to bend the rules, it needs to look like it complies with the rule but at the same time the authorities can't see any problems that might raise some flags. I mean if you didn't met the minimum, why not just accept that you can't reach the minimum posts and move on. Doing it once or twice could work but doing it all the time will raise some suspicions.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 06, 2021, 06:51:32 PM

The posts in english also differ a bit as far as I can judge, i.e. in 2017/2018 it sounded like a non-native person, but the latest posts read native (for me).


So you think someone's English can't improve in a span of 2-3 years?, I'm a non native English speaker that took grammar classes, still learning.

Anyway, the account changed hand, that's the main fact, no matter how.


The account didn't change hands people here tags someone so easily without any valid proof,, I wouldn't have paid the previous loan by working if i wanted to sell this account.
But Nah doesn't matter I'm off explaining hf playing DT games.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: worldofcoins on March 06, 2021, 07:23:54 PM

The posts in english also differ a bit as far as I can judge, i.e. in 2017/2018 it sounded like a non-native person, but the latest posts read native (for me).


So you think someone's English can't improve in a span of 2-3 years?, I'm a non native English speaker that took grammar classes, still learning.

Anyway, the account changed hand, that's the main fact, no matter how.


The account didn't change hands people here tags someone so easily without any valid proof,, I wouldn't have paid the previous loan by working if i wanted to sell this account.
But Nah doesn't matter I'm off explaining hf playing DT games.

Your english is far better than your other posts and compared to 2017 posts you've achieved a lot.
I have a gut feeling that if you continued posting the way you're posting in this thread -which is constructive and good for readers then you would've earned merits and ranked up quite easily but copying and pasting previous posts while inside a campaign doesn't make a good impression.

I've gone through your replies and I've come to conclusion -you shouldn't post if you can't but you kept posting previous replies of yours which is unethical.
Even though there were no rules like you said and i agree with you but you should've kept your moral compass straight thinking about the company you're working for.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 07, 2021, 12:40:15 PM
I also read all of SmokerFace's posts, and not only his but also his viola. There all the time he wants the task of taking a loan from someone and also advises everyone to buy accounts with which it will be easier to make money on the forum. I can say that when you read messages in a row, you get some impression about the person. And I doubt that the one who campaigned for the purchase of forum accounts so much and was in great need of money never bought or did not seek to sell his account. Therefore, I agree with the Coolcryptovator tag, the SmokerFace account has changed ownership.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on March 07, 2021, 04:13:59 PM

Your english is far better than your other posts and compared to 2017 posts you've achieved a lot.
I have a gut feeling that if you continued posting the way you're posting in this thread -which is constructive and good for readers then you would've earned merits and ranked up quite easily but copying and pasting previous posts while inside a campaign doesn't make a good impression.
Thx, you intentionally wrote this big reply to get merits, didn't you?  ;D

Even though there were no rules like you said and i agree with you but you should've kept your moral compass straight thinking about the company you're working for.

So you agree I didn't break any rules disregarding our beliefs!


And I doubt that the one who campaigned for the purchase of forum accounts so much and was in great need of money never bought or did not seek to sell his account. Therefore, I agree with the Coolcryptovator tag, the SmokerFace account has changed ownership.

Just because I didn't try to sell my account after coming back means the account is already sold? GJ Sherlock, great logic you got there.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: DireWolfM14 on March 07, 2021, 06:59:54 PM
From what I can recall this account was returned to the owner several months after the loan was taken. The user could not pay so completed some writing work for me instead.

I do not know what happened once he got his account back, but can assume it changed hands given the change in writing style/purpose.

I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time believing this, maybe I'm just being overly skeptical and cynical, but just being honest.

The account didn't change hands people here tags someone so easily without any valid proof,, I wouldn't have paid the previous loan by working if i wanted to sell this account.
But Nah doesn't matter I'm off explaining hf playing DT games.

The last password change was two years before the account woke up, which brings up the question; why would someone repay a loan to retrieve the account and not use it?  

There are too many strange things about the loan, and whether it was paid off or not.  Not the least of strange things is the fact that Parodium deleted his messages in loan request thread.  If he was afraid of losing his funds he would want those posts there as proof that his loan was defaulted.  The only reason to delete those posts is the hide the fact that a loan was given.  Also, SmokerFace deleted the text of the OP of the loan request thread.  Only a scammer would get a loan and then delete the text of the request.  Or, someone trying to hide the fact that a loan was given...

Another strange thing about the excuse given by Parodium; no reviews were left for the transaction, good, bad, or indifferent.  If the loan wasn't paid, but had to be "worked-off" why wouldn't Parodium leave a neutral review to warn other lenders?

In my opinion the most likely scenario is that Parodium still has control of the account, and tried to use it to recoup his lost funds.  I have no proof, of course, but something doesn't smell right about all this.  


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: worldofcoins on March 07, 2021, 08:04:30 PM
snip 

The thread of loan was updated on 9 Nov 2020 to canceled (http://prntscr.com/10fi1u8) maybe this is the time when the new account owner started posting on that account.
Coming to the password, Which was initially changed on 15/8/2018 and parodium said after some months loan was paid then the next password change was on 19/11/2018(i think this is when the original owner changed the password).
I also think after getting the account back it was sold again on or off the forum.
Smokerface seemed in need to be in a campaign and was trying hard to be in but I can't find parodium trying as hard as smokerface with his account so I don't think pardoium is smokerface.
If smokerface is parodium then he would want most or all of his accounts to be in some campaign or at least try to but this doesn't seem to be the case.

The history of "Smokerface's" trying to sell the account should also be taken into consideration which is why tags should remain.
Edit: SmokerFace should have no problem trying to sign a message from his old address to prove his ownership.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 08, 2021, 01:04:55 PM

In my opinion the most likely scenario is that Parodium still has control of the account, and tried to use it to recoup his lost funds.  I have no proof, of course, but something doesn't smell right about all this.  

I looked at the Parodium account. And considering that he himself writes that he is a native Briton who knows Romanian.
I'm native British, I have two degrees in scientific fields and have written numerous dissertations and contributed to a couple of PhD theses.
Hello there, I'm fluent in both English and Romanian. I'm also capable of writing highly complex papers in either language if you require.

 It turns out that he also owns an account that previously belonged to a Russian-speaking person who speaks Polish.
Hi,

I can do translation from/to next languages:

1. Polish
2. Ukrainian
3. Russian

PM me if you are interested in those additional languages.

Thank you.  :)

Bitcoin Wallet Address: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/509/509154xx.html#msg50915498) ]

Address for payment: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/513/513253xx.html#msg51325359) ]

Your BTC Address: 1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/195/195019xx.html#msg19501942) ]

дeлaeтcя cэp!
https://www.facebook.com/phumy1cfs/
1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/182/182398xx.html#msg18239895) ]


Either Parodium is a polyglot, or somewhere disingenuous, in that it does not leave the accounts of defaulters for itself.



Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2021, 01:48:25 PM
Either Parodium is a polyglot, or somewhere disingenuous, in that it does not leave the accounts of defaulters for itself.

spiker777's posts have been edited after Parodium posted that address (not after, I misread the dates; still very suspicious that all posts mentioning that address were edited in January 2018). Could be a setup.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 08, 2021, 02:16:17 PM
Could be a setup.
It seems like that and this is what I think too. spiker777 has posted this address (I doubt, he edited actually) on March 18, 2017 but the address has been used on 01/01/2018 for the first time and after few days, on 11th January 2018, spiker777 have added both of his posts. I would say all these are a set up.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2021, 02:22:41 PM
Could be a setup.
It seems like that and this is what I think too. spiker777 has posted this address (I doubt, he edited actually) on March 18, 2017 but the address has been used on 01/01/2018 for the first time and after few days, on 11th January 2018, spiker777 have added both of his posts. I would say all these are a set up.

On the other hand... that's still weird. Why would he do that? So that it's accidentally discovered three years later? But the posts are obviously edited, so it's not proof of anything. It's almost like he was trying to scrub all application posts (it's not only those two posts, there are a few more, all edited) to remove some other address. Would be interesting to dig up some archives and find if it was really the address that was edited, and what the original address was.

And why replace it with an address of another user? So a couple more possibilities:

  • Parodium acquired spiker777 account around that time.
  • spiker777 acquired Parodium account around that time.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 08, 2021, 02:28:31 PM
Either Parodium is a polyglot, or somewhere disingenuous, in that it does not leave the accounts of defaulters for itself.

spiker777's posts have been edited after Parodium posted that address (not after, I misread the dates; still very suspicious that all posts mentioning that address were edited in January 2018). Could be a setup.

Perhaps this account also wanted to pledge the account.
-BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Loan Amount: 0.055
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Trading
Amount to be repaid: 0.06
Repayment Date: April 15th 2017
Type of Collateral: see message
https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=nk19hbg5
Message:I am spiker777 from bitcointalk.org, today is March 26nd, 2017.. I am asking for a loan from Gunthar with my account as collateral. If I default my loan, Gunthar will be the new owner of my account.
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: MultiBit HD (0.5.1)
Comment: https://multibit.org
Address: 1GWBLwxkuAqcT6sC4vWq6ppu4Bv7HTg4py

IOvUuapl8iXZIprgRK4fX85CCkMpqSpsTsofhi45rBA7HryheMluILdX2oEYAIFaFruTgkdAVQ9Q7n8 ZVw0hO0c=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE----


 But Gunthar turned (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1448684.msg18342866#msg18342866) him down. Maybe someone else helped him with this.
But later, the same person again signs the message, but from a different account.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am GAMORA of bitcointalk.org that signing this message on 12/06/2017 to prove that i'm the owner of the address 1GW1A2E7Pzg8ua34resrPBv713zyHFu8vj
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: MultiBit HD (0.5.1)
Comment: https://multibit.org
Address: 1GWBLwxkuAqcT6sC4vWq6ppu4Bv7HTg4py

IHq1qVEbsGSKjZHAZa07Xr3xPnGHcqfLn/lm5fQmG4uefr/oZgiq8yO7RIkLxlqVKKxN2g/oo8GbNSQhtPHnJzk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

[ archive (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/195/195082xx.html#msg19508272) ]

Here is the one who helped and accepted this account, and changed all the addresses. And here the question is, where did Parodium get this address? Maybe he owns it?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 08, 2021, 02:31:48 PM

On the other hand... that's still weird. Why would he do that? So that it's accidentally discovered three years later? But the posts are obviously edited, so it's not proof of anything. It's almost like he was trying to scrub all application posts (it's not only those two posts, there are a few more, all edited) to remove some other address. Would be interesting to dig up some archives and find if it was really the address that was edited, and what the original address was.

May be to defame Parodium for some personal issue? Just saying but I don't think both accounts can be owned by a single person.
Unfortunately, there's no older archive of both threads where spiker777 has posted the address. Well, I'm a little bit surprised to see the Dao.Casino (one campaign where spiker777 applied) signature thread archived in 2020 while the thread was posted in 2017.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: worldofcoins on March 08, 2021, 02:37:36 PM

On the other hand... that's still weird. Why would he do that? So that it's accidentally discovered three years later? But the posts are obviously edited, so it's not proof of anything. It's almost like he was trying to scrub all application posts (it's not only those two posts, there are a few more, all edited) to remove some other address. Would be interesting to dig up some archives and find if it was really the address that was edited, and what the original address was.

May be to defame Parodium for some personal issue? Just saying but I don't think both accounts can be owned by a single person.
Unfortunately, there's no older archive of both threads where spiker777 has posted the address. Well, I'm a little bit surprised to see the Dao.Casino (one campaign where spiker777 applied) signature thread archived in 2020 while the thread was posted in 2017.

There was a recent case by user "Scodnara" thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286871.msg55524675#msg55524675
I think why would someone change their address with parodium's? It's likely to defame parodium or parodium stupid enough to use the same address of his by editing there.(I doubt this being the case)


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on March 08, 2021, 02:37:52 PM
So this happened a week or two before the posts being edited:

https://archive.is/MBbOU#selection-100012.0-100012.3
Quote
December 28, 2017, 01:16:02 AM - spiker777 - password changed

https://archive.is/MBbOU#selection-100284.0-100284.3
Quote
December 27, 2017, 11:34:37 PM - spiker777 - password changed

I think it's looking more and more likely that the account changed hands. I still want to figure out why he edited the posts. To avoid getting linked to other spiker777's alts?

parodium stupid enough to use the same address of his by editing there.(I doubt this being the case)

Yeah that part is weird.

Edit - got the original address, and the edits were indeed replacing the address.

http://web.archive.org/web/20170717185337/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0;all

Quote
Username: spiker777
Post Count: 341 (including this)
BTC Address: 1FQMfZBRWPSnYjD1Fa4LgJNCqdTecqsE6Y

Which according to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2560724) is linked to a banned account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857639).

To recap: Parodium acquires spiker777 account in December 2017, for some inexplicable reason scrubs the account's address from campaign application posts and replaces it with his own one (instead of e.g. just deleting the posts), then in January 2019 spiker777's original owner (or alt or whatever) boy130 gets permabanned. At least that's what I think happened. So replacing the address probably saved spiker777 account from ban evasion.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 08, 2021, 03:05:34 PM

Which according to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2560724) is linked to a banned account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857639).
They have exchanged feedback also.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 08, 2021, 03:14:36 PM


Quote
Username: spiker777
Post Count: 341 (including this)
BTC Address: 1FQMfZBRWPSnYjD1Fa4LgJNCqdTecqsE6Y

Which according to this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2560724) is linked to a banned account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857639).

To recap: Parodium acquires spiker777 account in December 2017, for some inexplicable reason scrubs the account's address from campaign application posts and replaces it with his own one (instead of e.g. just deleting the posts), then in January 2019 spiker777's original owner (or alt or whatever) boy130 gets permabanned. At least that's what I think happened. So replacing the address probably saved spiker777 account from ban evasion.

I'm not very good at it, but as you can see, these two accounts have a connection.

https://blockchair.com/ru/bitcoin/address/1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
https://i.ibb.co/t4Vtc67/Screenshot-2.png (https://ibb.co/JKD42Tf)

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=15fcShqXe4bXrEvAB52swsYAMWMvnfoAP7


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 08, 2021, 03:21:46 PM

https://blockchair.com/ru/bitcoin/address/1Jyj8t4hLzgbiVLmmbWMRhdo31QGQK415x
https://i.ibb.co/t4Vtc67/Screenshot-2.png (https://ibb.co/JKD42Tf)

https://ninjastic.space/addresses?address=15fcShqXe4bXrEvAB52swsYAMWMvnfoAP7
I found 1 user connected with this address- 1FWQ7Nk9e8GDw1FfwTDeTekSPgGNLPxFTx
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651
Post Count: 688
Merit Count: 521
BTC Address: 1FWQ7Nk9e8GDw1FfwTDeTekSPgGNLPxFTx
Telegram Username: @ICOTurbo

Hey Zapo, please consider me for the campaign. Best of luck! I'll join the Telegram community once I return home tonight

And what a coincedence-
Both Parodium and spiker777 also participated in BQT signature campaigns along with Docnaster- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4862272.msg46111762#msg46111762

So, Docnaster is certainly alt of spiker777?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 09, 2021, 10:17:56 AM

So, Docnaster is certainly alt of spiker777?

Yes, it probably doesn't have an original owner. Look at this accusation.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17186132#msg17186132


And after that, we see the same picture. The account offers itself as collateral.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801894.msg17951246#msg17951246

Further, the style of speech changes. Previously, the owner was from the Philippines and had poor English. But in March 2018, English changes, and most interestingly, wallet numbers are also edited on the same day, March 24, 2018.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680832.msg16879153#msg16879153
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589966.msg16233968#msg16233968
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1645630.msg16561846#msg16561846
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661862.msg16723212#msg16723212


But DarkStar quotes the message, and we see which address was hidden.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661862.msg16731559#msg16731559

I will not say 100 percent, but whoever reads the posts of Parodium, will find a special similarity to what Docnaster writes.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192382.msg52750820#msg52750820

And today I can say that Docnaster is evading the ban, even though he is not active at this time.

Ban evasion.
Prettygirl01315 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=761925)  Autoban user (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=761925)
Docnaster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651)

1J8wuBfkzQ4X91q5NU6EVxp5abeUEZhnDP


Name : Docnaster
Rank : Sr. Member
Post Count : 521
BTCitcoin Address : 1J8wuBfkzQ4X91q5NU6EVxp5abeUEZhnDP
 
Let me know when accepted so i will put signature.



Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: worldofcoins on March 09, 2021, 11:11:35 AM

And today I can say that Docnaster is evading the ban, even though he is not active at this time.

Ban evasion.
Prettygirl01315 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=761925)  Autoban user (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=761925)
Docnaster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=668651)

1J8wuBfkzQ4X91q5NU6EVxp5abeUEZhnDP


I found one more "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1760807.msg17752869#msg17752869"
User: Sponsoredby15
They used same addresses " 37sKu6AvJveFDH6pBSFKVB8DeNwR5PVHtk  "

Edit: Prettygirl01315 also connected with Sponsoredby15 "https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1680574.msg16879433#msg16879433"



Something Special I found: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17186132#msg17186132
Accounts connected: Prettygirl01315, yueno, Sponsoredby15, MWesterweele, uwichii, Kalder699, marcuslong, Achargeturry78, Docnaster




I will not say 100 percent, but whoever reads the posts of Parodium, will find a special similarity to what Docnaster writes.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5192382.msg52750820#msg52750820

Still not much of proof.
I tried to find a connection between parodium and these accounts but unable to gather proof that these accounts are owned by parodium.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: ScumBuster on March 12, 2021, 09:07:50 PM
One can only guess how he lives in real life, adjusting his "truth" for everyone around him.

HAHAhahahahahaha. Whaaaaatt?

You were banned for plagiarizing! You defend Ratimov the proven plagiarizer because he leaves you positive trust! You question other users morals when your morals are bought with a positive trust rating? HAHAhahaha scumbag.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 18, 2022, 02:29:44 AM
Look at this shitstain still pooping out posts every 2 minutes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880473;sa=showPosts

https://meem.link/i/9hib9htm.png


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on January 18, 2022, 03:18:58 AM
Look at this shitstain still pooping out posts every 2 minutes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880473;sa=showPosts
wow, 17 posts in one day.
he also did it in a very short time.
how persistent is he posting for the scam campaign he is promoting?
I'm sure that in some signature campaigns managed by a good manager. he must have been removed from the list of participants.
is there no prohibition for a user like him?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 18, 2022, 03:30:29 AM
how persistent is he posting for the scam campaign he is promoting?
I'm sure that in some signature campaigns managed by a good manager. he must have been removed from the list of participants.
is there no prohibition for a user like him?
If you read on the campaign thread [open] Restart of 1xBit signature campaign - new signatures and more spots! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.0) there's a rule "Spam, offtopic and posts in Bounty threads are not counted" it's clear spam but the manager/team still count for of his posts. Well we can't expect anything about this, if they're really not counting spam posts of their participants... obviously all of the participants already got removed. All the participants have nothing to lose since their account already got red tagged and can earn money by spamming.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 18, 2022, 03:35:26 AM
is there no prohibition for a user like him?

"Scams are not moderated" is the rule that allows this garbage to continue while <insert rant about valuable users getting banned here>.

I have reported their 10 recent posts for being shitposts, will see how this goes.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 18, 2022, 09:56:02 AM
Look at this shitstain still pooping out posts every 2 minutes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=880473;sa=showPosts


Most of my posts are saved in notepad, I don't have time to click the post button everyday so I save them and spread my good words at the last moment.

how persistent is he posting for the scam campaign he is promoting?
I'm sure that in some signature campaigns managed by a good manager. he must have been removed from the list of participants.
is there no prohibition for a user like him?
If you read on the campaign thread [open] Restart of 1xBit signature campaign - new signatures and more spots! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.0) there's a rule "Spam, offtopic and posts in Bounty threads are not counted" it's clear spam but the manager/team still count for of his posts. Well we can't expect anything about this, if they're really not counting spam posts of their participants... obviously all of the participants already got removed. All the participants have nothing to lose since their account already got red tagged and can earn money by spamming.

Those posts are of High Quality and Not spam.
"if you read my posts" then you'll find they're of higher quality compared to yours.

"Scams are not moderated" is the rule that allows this garbage to continue while <insert rant about valuable users getting banned here>.

So now you'll try to get a rule changed just for me?
Thank you for the LOVE muchMoon SuchGa...


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: LoyceV on January 18, 2022, 10:40:08 AM
Most of my posts are saved in notepad, I don't have time to click the post button everyday so I save them and spread my good words at the last moment.
What kinda BS is that? Posting literally takes less time than reading a topic and switching to an external editor. Or maybe you forgot the "reading" part and just spam generic shitposts.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 18, 2022, 11:33:42 AM
Most of my posts are saved in notepad
That certainly helps for when you delete a post from previous weeks and then just make the exact same post again to farm those sweet scam payments.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Lucius on January 18, 2022, 02:36:22 PM
Those posts are of High Quality and Not spam.
"if you read my posts" then you'll find they're of higher quality compared to yours.

Your posts are definitely better than the worst shitposters, but it's far from the quality you imagine. However, something is very easy to notice if we look at your post history - your posts are mostly 3 lines, with about the same number of characters. It's a clear pattern that shows you're producing posts for your signature campaign, but you're not intelligent enough to avoid more than obvious things.

In addition, I would not be surprised if these posts are not actually your work, but you use the services of those who write for others - it would be interesting if someone would check if there are identical posts translated into other languages.

https://i.imgur.com/Ujb1TQR.png


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 18, 2022, 05:49:55 PM
In addition, I would not be surprised if these posts are not actually your work, but you use the services of those who write for others - it would be interesting if someone would check if there are identical posts translated into other languages.


1st I don't expect anything else from the retards like muchmoon to dig up profiles of people they want to be in a relationship with but are tired of getting rejected.

2nd.. Why do you want someone else to do the work that you find interesting...what have you done for those people in the first place??? or are looking for some pets?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 18, 2022, 08:07:42 PM
I don't expect anything else from the retards like muchmoon to dig up profiles of people they want to be in a relationship with
This is outrageous! Suchie, why have you never dug up my profile? :'(


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 18, 2022, 08:26:24 PM
I don't expect anything else from the retards like muchmoon to dig up profiles of people they want to be in a relationship with
This is outrageous! Suchie, why have you never dug up my profile? :'(

I have. It's utterly lacking in shitposts. I'm afraid the S&M relationship via mod reports is not going to work out between us.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 18, 2022, 10:41:46 PM
I don't expect anything else from the retards like muchmoon to dig up profiles of people they want to be in a relationship with
This is outrageous! Suchie, why have you never dug up my profile? :'(

I have. It's utterly lacking in shitposts. I'm afraid the S&M relationship via mod reports is not going to work out between us.

so "o_e_l_e_o" is flawless and you put them on a pedestal?

Everyone please, A big round of applause for Simp-moon of the year.

A tip for suchmoon: If you aren't having small fights with your girl then get ready to leave. (Beautiful DT1-DT2 ladies/girls/gals do you something else for our simpmoon to help them advance their career with females)


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 18, 2022, 11:03:26 PM
Reported posts have been deleted, SmokerFace still not banned, not sure if it's worth continuing but perhaps I will. Things we do for successful relationships...

https://meem.link/i/qrf6abiy.png https://meem.link/i/qcdqg4ki.png

so "o_e_l_e_o" is flawless and you put them on a pedestal?

Hmmm... haven't tried that, sounds kinky.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 19, 2022, 08:33:20 AM
I have. It's utterly lacking in shitposts. I'm afraid the S&M relationship via mod reports is not going to work out between us.
Oh, I've completely misunderstood. All these years I thought you were in to dirty talk, rather than shit posts. Lost in translation somewhere. We'll just have to stick to the in-person BDSM.

"o_e_l_e_o" is flawless
...
Beautiful DT1-DT2 ladies/girls/gals
Stop! You're making me blush. :-*


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Lucius on January 19, 2022, 11:14:14 AM
1st I don't expect anything else from the retards like muchmoon to dig up profiles of people they want to be in a relationship with but are tired of getting rejected.

You forget that you are on a public forum, and whether you like it or not, everything is analyzed for various reasons, you can't forbid anyone to do that. Such an approach has exposed your dirty business of deleting posts and reposting them when it suits you again.

2nd.. Why do you want someone else to do the work that you find interesting...what have you done for those people in the first place??? or are looking for some pets?

The one who lies, usually steals, in your case engages in moral and unethical activities that may include things like buying posts - and those who produce posts often translate them into different languages and make money by selling the same content. I won't even mention promoting a scam-certified company, but people like you would sell their own mother for $5 if given the chance.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 19, 2022, 12:42:09 PM
The one who lies, usually steals, in your case engages in moral and unethical activities that may include things like buying posts - and those who produce posts often translate them into different languages and make money by selling the same content. I won't even mention promoting a scam-certified company, but people like you would sell their own mother for $5 if given the chance.

What unethical activities are you referring to?... promoting a website isn't against the forum's rules... The service that i promote isn't illegal where i live.
I don't give a damn about people who're out of 100 miles of range from where i live unless i know them.

Even if i buy posts which "maybe i don't" and "maybe translated into different languages" still not against the rules/laws on this forum If you have read the Rules of this forum (Which you haven't even after being a legendary member) seems you're entitled to Legendary Tag and some merits you got.

Since you're entitled to your Rank and merits earned then it doesn't give you the right to tell people that they will sell their own mother for 5 bucks (seriously?..5 bucks?)
Since I'm in the middle of filing a lawsuit against my parents who're holding me hostage so i'll let you have my mother for free "No strings Attached!" but you'll have to convince my father.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 19, 2022, 12:48:55 PM
not against the rules/laws on this forum

You might want to read the rules. At least the first one.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 19, 2022, 12:51:56 PM
Even if i buy posts which "maybe i don't" and "maybe translated into different languages" still not against the rules/laws on this forum If you have read the Rules of this forum
Who said it's not against forum rules? You, right? Well you better check this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57865935#msg57865935
He got banned due to plagiarism by translating an article without adding the sources. It's still plagiarism even you're translating the article, because you're not the person who created the content.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 19, 2022, 01:38:55 PM
Even if i buy posts which "maybe i don't" and "maybe translated into different languages" still not against the rules/laws on this forum If you have read the Rules of this forum
Who said it's not against forum rules? You, right? Well you better check this user https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57865935#msg57865935
He got banned due to plagiarism by translating an article without adding the sources. It's still plagiarism even you're translating the article, because you're not the person who created the content.

I'm not that user and i don't have time to check losers...but do you have any proof that I plagiarised? I'm sure I would be banned by now if I did.. and jobless scums are already verifying my posts that I am sure of.

My question is - Are you one of those Jawhead999?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: FatFork on January 19, 2022, 02:05:47 PM
The one who lies, usually steals, in your case engages in moral and unethical activities that may include things like buying posts - and those who produce posts often translate them into different languages and make money by selling the same content. I won't even mention promoting a scam-certified company, but people like you would sell their own mother for $5 if given the chance.

What unethical activities are you referring to?...

You might want to read the title of this thread again.

User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 19, 2022, 02:09:54 PM
The one who lies, usually steals, in your case engages in moral and unethical activities that may include things like buying posts - and those who produce posts often translate them into different languages and make money by selling the same content. I won't even mention promoting a scam-certified company, but people like you would sell their own mother for $5 if given the chance.

What unethical activities are you referring to?...

You might want to read the title of this thread again.

"Recyclying posts, new way of cheating..???" Is it new way of cheating?... even if it is or it is not... then am i still doing it?... suchmoon the professional stalker had to reopen this dead thread because i made 10+ posts in a day.

Reminded me of a girl who stalked me to my apartment and later on i came to know about that... god knows how many strings i had to pull to get rid of her.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: suchmoon on January 19, 2022, 02:26:51 PM
i made 10+ posts in a day

You made 10 posts in 20 minutes and it was a steaming pile of shit.

I have reported another pile of shit from a few days ago. This should end either with you getting banned or mods getting really pissed at me, which is fine either way.

Some examples to illustrate the garbage you're posting:

If they're claiming about the owning of bitcoins, then ask them to control the price and the value. I've firmly believed only the owner of bitcoin can stop its value. We all know about Satoshi Nakamoto. First, he belongs to Japan while Craig is from the United States. In the world of bitcoin, everything is a fraud, and you can not trust anyone easily.

The question is, how do you own 0.1 BTC in 2022 ?. If you look at the value of bitcoin and market place, it's hard to earn such an amount. The only way to make 0.1 BTC is an investment, but it means you're already rich if you're buying it. Why would you believe it when you already have enough money?. If you go back and invest like $8 to $10, it might become rich. But in today's generation, no one can earn such an amount, not even with mining.

(didn't even read the title of the thread; it said 0.01 not 0.1 BTC)

... and so on.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: Lucius on January 19, 2022, 03:16:00 PM
What unethical activities are you referring to?... promoting a website isn't against the forum's rules... The service that i promote isn't illegal where i live.
I don't give a damn about people who're out of 100 miles of range from where i live unless i know them.

It is not against the rules of the forum, but if it is a publicly known fact that what you promote causes great financial damage to other people, then any honest member of the forum would be expected to stop giving visibility to such a company.

Even if i buy posts which "maybe i don't" and "maybe translated into different languages" still not against the rules/laws on this forum If you have read the Rules of this forum (Which you haven't even after being a legendary member) seems you're entitled to Legendary Tag and some merits you got.

I got my rank on the forum because I deserved it according to the rules of the forum even before the merit system existed - and even if I didn't get 1000 airdropped merits, I've earned 2000+ merits so far which is enough for Legendary rank x2.

Since you're entitled to your Rank and merits earned then it doesn't give you the right to tell people that they will sell their own mother for 5 bucks (seriously?..5 bucks?)
Since I'm in the middle of filing a lawsuit against my parents who're holding me hostage so i'll let you have my mother for free "No strings Attached!" but you'll have to convince my father.

It's just my observation of your behavior, and the term I used is very common in my country for people who would do anything for money - it was not my intention to offend your mother as you understood it. What you wrote is actually much more offensive, you should respect your parents, yet they are the reason you exist.


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: SmokerFace on January 19, 2022, 03:49:57 PM
It's just my observation of your behavior, and the term I used is very common in my country for people who would do anything for money - it was not my intention to offend your mother as you understood it. What you wrote is actually much more offensive, you should respect your parents, yet they are the reason you exist.

**irrelevant sob story**

In any case, I'm willing to promote 100 companies like 1xbit and I don't give a damn about humans, as I said in the past if you can't keep the money you earn then you don't deserve it.
One of the mods is also favoring this "A fool and their money is separated" I'm glad we're even on this one..

If the fool isn't concerned as to where they use their money then why are you about theirs?



**removed due to being incomprehensible by the Majority **

Archive of OP: https://ninjastic.space/post/59026551
I prefer this one rather than Windows 98 style loyce


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: FatFork on January 19, 2022, 07:55:34 PM
<a generic narcissistic sob story>

Even if it were true (which I seriously doubt), it's easier to blame others and point out their mistakes, rather than admitting your own faults. You blame your parents, your teachers, your friends, the Catholic church, the world, and anything or anyone else but yourself. This is a very common trait with young people and it usually doesn't change until they get older.

No, my friend, the problem is with you, and it will always be with you. Do not blame others for everything that's wrong in your life, because you need to realize that your life is only yours and there is only one person to be blamed in that game altogether with your laziness and cowardice. No matter what you've been through in life, you're not a victim.

Taking responsibility and accountability for your own life is a sign of maturity, whereas blaming others is a sign of immaturity and stupidity.

... tbh I wouldn't feel bad if these people are shot in front of me.

This just proves how damaged you really are. Seek help asap!


Title: Re: User SmokerFace - Recycling posts for sig campaign, new way of cheating ?
Post by: LoyceV on January 20, 2022, 10:36:48 AM
**irrelevant sob story**
Come on, don't delete the drama (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5902/59026551.html) including some insight in how your mind works. It's not the first post I've seen in which you blame anyone else instead of yourself.