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Title: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Rruchi man on April 30, 2021, 01:42:14 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Poker Player on April 30, 2021, 03:19:42 AM
Don't you see the news? Of course there is a plan to vaccinate everyone. Another thing is that it is achieved, but there is talk of herd immunity from 70 vaccinated. I thought this was a disease that would stay with us like the flu, but recently I have seen talk of possible eradication.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Xinarae* on April 30, 2021, 05:10:51 AM
No one are going to be ready to tell when the vaccine will end because the second dose is starting anew after the primary dose is completed. the govt has decided to require an eight week break for the second dose of vaccine after the primary dose and therefore the second dose should start on April 8 within the case of vaccination the plan was to bring a complete of 30 million doses of vaccine within six months. Many countries have stopped vaccinating but are getting to renew therefore it's important to stop the virus without fear about its survival.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: semobo on April 30, 2021, 05:40:32 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

It is certainly possible to vaccinate everyone in this world but what is happening right now is, each country gives priority to their own citizens so vaccine producers and well developed nations can vaccinated their entire population then only the rest of the world will get the vaccination but do you think that vaccination is actually works and its the actual solution to the covid 19 and new strains?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cabron on April 30, 2021, 05:51:01 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

It is certainly possible to vaccinate everyone in this world but what is happening right now is, each country gives priority to their own citizens so vaccine producers and well developed nations can vaccinated their entire population then only the rest of the world will get the vaccination but do you think that vaccination is actually works and its the actual solution to the covid 19 and new strains?

It's what government does, they take care of their own people first before helping the other. India was in need of Vaccines and Oxygen. Although India had been producing vaccines, they just can't supply everyone in a short period of time and there's a big problem too because the virus is also evolving which you can get covid over again because of the new variant. Some people don't wanna get vaccinates too, they don't trust vaccines but this is another story. 


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on April 30, 2021, 07:47:02 AM
I thought this was a disease that would stay with us like the flu, but recently I have seen talk of possible eradication.

Eradication would be fantastic. I suppose a key issue here is how quickly the virus mutates. In order for eradication to work, the vaccines will have to keep on top of the new variants... this could be quite a task given how widespread the virus is around the world. But either way, whether it stays with us and is controlled by annual shots like flu, or whether it is eradicated entirely... we are in a much better position than we were this time last year. It is important now to ensure that the rich countries let poorer countries have access to the limited vaccine supplies.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on April 30, 2021, 10:01:05 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

See to be sincere via this subject everybody across the country deserved to be vaccinated, in this form no one is exempted for contamination of the virus, so that is the reason everybody have to take adequate treatment of so called corona virus vaccine, really these affects all the countries in the world so it's a world or global challenges to an average person in the world through the environment he or she resides.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: mu_enrico on April 30, 2021, 10:14:55 AM
Some vaccine (especially *cough* Chinese vaccine) has a low efficacy rate, so even if every person gets vaccinated, the virus still can infect some of them. Also, because of the mutation and stuff, this thing is getting more complicated. So, the vaccination end when the government stops controlling people's health and lets people choose what's best for themselves.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: acroman08 on April 30, 2021, 02:28:05 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world?
what I know(at least what I think I know) is the plan is to vaccinate as many people as possible. would it be able to vaccinate everyone? most likely not.

Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish?
giving the majority of the population the needed immunity to repel the virus is far better than not having the immunity from it.

Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?
not gonna say it is but from what I am seeing in my country a lot of government officials(LGU's=local government unit) are taking advantage of the help being given to the poor such as financial needs(especially this), foods, medicine, etc... and putting some(maybe more) of it on their own pocket or their relatives leaving a lot of poor families starving and risking their health just to get food for their families. I am sure politicians in my country do this too but on a much larger scale.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Jet Cash on April 30, 2021, 04:10:12 PM
It will never end, because the virus is smarter than the pharma companies. What we will end up with is healthy unvaccinated people, and pharma dependent  vaxxers.
They know they are onto a good thing, and the latest idea is to vaccinate all domestic cats to stop the spread of infection.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Ebede on April 30, 2021, 04:16:09 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world?
what I know(at least what I think I know) is the plan is to vaccinate as many people as possible. would it be able to vaccinate everyone? most likely not.

Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish?
giving the majority of the population the needed immunity to repel the virus is far better than not having the immunity from it.

Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?
not gonna say it is but from what I am seeing in my country a lot of government officials(LGU's=local government unit) are taking advantage of the help being given to the poor such as financial needs(especially this), foods, medicine, etc... and putting some(maybe more) of it on their own pocket or their relatives leaving a lot of poor families starving and risking their health just to get food for their families. I am sure politicians in my country do this too but on a much larger scale.
Actually financial bills is not the problem from my direction of comprehension towards government, what is really the problem is how important the vaccine will help to stop the increment of circulation of the covid19, looking forward from government it's their responsibility to carry functional concern to ensure everyone is admitted to the vaccine to avoid more spread of the virus.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Similificator on April 30, 2021, 05:43:20 PM
Op, I think you will have to read and use your common sense more. Obviously, the main goal is to get everyone vaccinated as soon as possible. But the problem with this is that we do not have enough resources to do everything as fast as lightning. Which is why countries who have the capabilities to create vaccines try their best to soeed things up in vaccinating their citizens first so they can proceed on a wide scale vaccine distribution all throughout needing countries. Some even send out vaccines already despite not being able to fully vaccinate all the citizens in their country yet. So let us not add up to the problems more by spreading negativity. Instead, let us spread positivity and encouragement to everyone to make things lighter specially for the people who are infected and are suffering from covid-19.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: blackened515 on April 30, 2021, 08:36:03 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

I think, it will take time before majority of the world population will be vaccinated. I don't think the vaccination will end anytime sooner, even with the vaccines, we still hear new cases of the virus everyday. The first dose of the vaccination has ended in some country, while some other county have not started the vaccination process for example Nigeria. It can even take years, to get the whole world vaccinated, which is the target.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Natsuu on May 02, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


It is possible to vaccinate everyone in the world but with regards to time frame, it will take a year or two before it happen.

But answering the second, though my answer is its possible, lets try it.
If it is not possible, then the people in charge are to be pursued for their negligence in information.

Before the start of the vaccination, there is announcement of plans to be conducted so it is known to all what is the plan, and what to be expected


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2021, 10:59:36 PM
When will the vaccination end?


When the Kraken rises and Biden is ousted - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334747.0.


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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: CryptoYar on May 04, 2021, 06:28:03 AM
Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world?
I think it's possible ... if every country vaccinates its citizens it is definitely possible. But it is also the case here that the economic condition of some countries is not such that they can vaccinate their entire population.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: mindrust on May 04, 2021, 06:46:13 AM
According to Bill Gates, when everybody in the world gets the vax.

“You don’t have a choice… You don't get to say... Normalcy only returns when we largely vaccinate the entire population.”  --Bill Gates

By the way Bill and Melinda had a divorce recently. Only few hours ago.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Mauser on May 04, 2021, 06:46:55 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


The problem we have with the vaccination is that we don't know how long the immunity is going to last. There are two issues, first the immunity could stop after 1 or 2 years and we would need to get a new vaccine. The second issue would be that there will be mutations on the future that are immune to the vaccine. It is hard to give probabilities to these events.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: mindrust on May 04, 2021, 06:52:28 AM
The problem we have with the vaccination is that we don't know how long the immunity is going to last. There are two issues, first the immunity could stop after 1 or 2 years and we would need to get a new vaccine. The second issue would be that there will be mutations on the future that are immune to the vaccine. It is hard to give probabilities to these events.

I have read it many times before that the immunity the vax provides only lasts 6 months at best. Not a year or two. They want everybody to get vaccinated every 6 months, forever. This is not like the flu-shots which only the elderly people get after a certain age. They want this for everybody, forever.

Obviously, it is not going to happen.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: quocsi on May 04, 2021, 11:21:55 PM
I think vaccination is the best way to prevent disease. It will protect your health. It stops epidemics all over the world. Currently the 19 covid epidemic is spreading everywhere. Many people died. I think we have a long way to go before this pandemic joint injection is over.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Natsuu on May 06, 2021, 03:09:59 AM
The problem we have with the vaccination is that we don't know how long the immunity is going to last. There are two issues, first the immunity could stop after 1 or 2 years and we would need to get a new vaccine. The second issue would be that there will be mutations on the future that are immune to the vaccine. It is hard to give probabilities to these events.

I have read it many times before that the immunity the vax provides only lasts 6 months at best. Not a year or two. They want everybody to get vaccinated every 6 months, forever. This is not like the flu-shots which only the elderly people get after a certain age. They want this for everybody, forever.

Obviously, it is not going to happen.


If you correlate your statement to his statement,

Then the vaccination will stop after all of the people have already been vaccinated, cause the mutation of the virus will stop.

There is no need for this to be forever, the mutations only happen to someone who was "INFECTED" by the virus itself. it won't mutate if it doesn't have a host.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: just_Alice on May 06, 2021, 11:40:50 PM
The problem we have with the vaccination is that we don't know how long the immunity is going to last. There are two issues, first the immunity could stop after 1 or 2 years and we would need to get a new vaccine. The second issue would be that there will be mutations on the future that are immune to the vaccine. It is hard to give probabilities to these events.

I have read it many times before that the immunity the vax provides only lasts 6 months at best. Not a year or two. They want everybody to get vaccinated every 6 months, forever. This is not like the flu-shots which only the elderly people get after a certain age. They want this for everybody, forever.

Obviously, it is not going to happen.


If you correlate your statement to his statement,

Then the vaccination will stop after all of the people have already been vaccinated, cause the mutation of the virus will stop.

There is no need for this to be forever, the mutations only happen to someone who was "INFECTED" by the virus itself. it won't mutate if it doesn't have a host.
Correct, but the major problem here is that it is impossible to vaccinate everyone simultaneously. If the presumable effect after the vaccine lasts 6 months, this means that every single person needs to be vaccinated within that time, because otherwise there will be a time window in which some people may get a recurrent infection, allowing the virus to mutate. And this can go on and on in circles.

However, the mutations aren't as big a threat as people see them. The thing is when a person receives a vaccine - it triggers the T-cells and antibodies response against the various regions of the spike protein. If mutations occur in the genes that encode this S-protein - it will only cause slight changes in the structure. Thus, most likely there will be an adaptive immunity even against the new variants of the virus in vaccinated people.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Zilon on May 07, 2021, 07:45:33 AM
Politics has taken over the order of the day. Most countries aren't actually concerned more about vaccinating it's citizens, their drive is towards making substantial lootings for their personal interest. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the whole vaccination 3/10 of the world population don't get this vaccines. We are actually living in a terrible society where no body cares any more. Every man is just concerned about how to utilize every single opportunity to make wealth and create fame.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: m. yasir on May 07, 2021, 04:47:44 PM
Many opinions have emerged to discuss when it will end because this is a global disaster and all countries feel a big impact, especially the economic sector.  on the other hand, there are those who want this to continue because there are many things they can get money, position, fame for.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: shoreno on May 07, 2021, 05:43:57 PM
obviously , vaccines will roll out in every countries in the world but not every individuals can get vaccinated because vaccine in some countries are for sale , if countries make it free some individuals will not allow themselves to get vaccinated because they are afraid of what will the effect in their bodies . dunno if covid is verified to be man made or not so dont say they started this but we can see they are making an effort to put this to an end but its just people are sometimes hard headed and cant follow simple protocols .


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: famososMuertos on May 08, 2021, 12:21:27 AM
For your specific question in the title, the covid vaccination will take years ... many, let's hope that your health control will last months.

That is why rigid social distancing controls and  the basic rules of prevention are still important.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on May 08, 2021, 07:53:07 PM
When will the vaccination end?


In 4 to 6 years when the smart un-vaccinated people have seen all the dead/autistic/sickened vaccinated ones. The sick ones will not provide enough money to government to cure them (which government can't do, anyway), and the smart ones will have started PMA altcoin businesses so they don't have to pay taxes. At the height of it, the medical will have destroyed themselves.


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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Desmong on May 08, 2021, 11:06:12 PM
There's an agenda for this vaccination of a thing. The question is why do they decided to produce it in two pairs. You will need to take the first vaccine before taking the second one. Their is an agenda for this which I wouldn't comment much for now.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tabas on May 08, 2021, 11:12:51 PM
It is unlikely that everyone will be vaccinated in the world. There are those that are against it and not willing to have their shots. It's impossible but I think we'll get the herd immunity once the supply gets flooded in covax facility.
It's just a matter of time and soon we'll be free from this pandemic but there will be some isolated cases.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: dongyi17 on May 24, 2021, 10:44:36 AM
It will take time years perhaps for as long as there still covid going on around the world there will always be vaccine, their target would be as far as the covid is present. and so per your question is concerned I think it will not end yet, we never know what will happen after everyone is vaccinated and comes next.. let's just hope for the best.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on May 24, 2021, 12:45:23 PM
I'll start by asking this,
Has the vaccination for small pox and chicken pox ended?

You can answer that for yourselves but then, vaccination has been around even when a disease has been farely controlled and as such, I don't think vaccination would end ever, so long as there is human still on earth.

It is a preventive measure and like we rightly know, "prevention is better than cure". Which is a good move towards the control of any disease and has been proven effective over the years.

So, should vaccination actually help in the control of COVID-19, it is expected to continue. The available vaccines might not be enough for the populace at the moment but in time, it would be as available as any other regular drug.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2021, 05:13:29 PM
When will the vaccination end?


When the people start to need a vaccination every couple of days to survive the vaccine induced diseases. Let's hope people will start to recognize the medical vaccine hoax before it gets to this point.


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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: PIR on June 09, 2021, 06:18:45 AM
Their goal is for everyone to get vaccinated but we know that not everyone want to get one, in any country I am sure there are few who don't and for some countries who are not that much affected I don't think they would needed to get vaccinated, or perhaps for protection purposes... it will only end once everyone get vaccinated.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Mauser on June 09, 2021, 07:46:30 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


I have bad news for you, just read on Monday morning that it appears the immunity after the vaccination drops off between 12-16 months. It is very likely that we all need another shot in 2022. It will probably be only one instead of two shots and also the side effects are going to be not so severe. While the politicians are making decent money always, I think the big money is being made in the pharma companies. The big players producing the vaccine, the test centers all around the world, the pharmacies selling more drugs. The whole supply chain in pharma is getting rich right now.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Similificator on June 09, 2021, 03:10:05 PM
Yes. The whole plan of the people who are on top who govern the normal people like us is to actually get everyone one in the world vaccinated as soon as possible. And it is only natural since it's the best solution there is that they can think of at the moment. Although it may still take a few years more, I think it is achievable since the people who are promoting this seems to be serious about the idea. Maybe because the end for this virus isn't visible yet and may be impossible to eradicate (at least for now). 


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Renampun on June 09, 2021, 03:50:32 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

As long as this covid is still living with us, I think vaccination will continue for a long time...

it is possible to vaccinate all the people in the world as long as all citizens are willing to be vaccinated. every year there are new variants created and vaccines must be updated every year, I think in the future this covid will only be like the flu.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Lordhermes on June 09, 2021, 06:56:34 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

I don't literally think it will be possible that everybody in the universe will probably get the vaccines tab. Because, some people still thinks Covid-19 is a scam set up by the Government. They don't believe it real. Why some don't even want the vaccines in their system.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on June 09, 2021, 10:15:35 PM
When will the vaccination end?


When the syringe is empty.


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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: franky1 on June 09, 2021, 11:23:38 PM
the vaccination ends at the tip of the needle


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: ampu on June 10, 2021, 08:00:29 AM
Vaccines are a temporary measure of solutions against disease. If in the future this virus develops to a new level, humanity will require the creation of newer vaccines or drugs to fight this disease.
The spread of the Coronavirus is complicated so every country in the world wants its people to be vaccinated to continue economic and cultural activities. So the vaccination will take a long time.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on June 10, 2021, 09:21:11 AM
If you were referring to vaccines overall, I would say never. However, you seem to be referring to the Covid-19 vaccinations and I would answer it to you like this: whenever the elites get the results they desire. All the "vaccines" are numbered and certain variants of it administered to people. Really this isn't a "vaccine" but rather an mRNA treatment and anyone taking it is the test subject. Once the elites observe the results on your numbered vaccine they will record your positive or adverse reaction to create cures for themselves while this is mainly for culling the masses. It is also a mark of the beast they want to mandate it for travel and entertainment purposes (concerts, live events etc.) but I'm sure they want to extend it to commerce overall. This will never end until the elites establish their own neo-feudal world government or we the people say enough is enough and end it for them.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Mauser on June 10, 2021, 11:12:53 AM


If you correlate your statement to his statement,

Then the vaccination will stop after all of the people have already been vaccinated, cause the mutation of the virus will stop.

There is no need for this to be forever, the mutations only happen to someone who was "INFECTED" by the virus itself. it won't mutate if it doesn't have a host.

I don't think that this is realistic. Reaching a 100% vaccination is not going to happen because a few sceptics will always deny it. And the other reason is that your body not be immune forever, it looks like with corona we need to refresh the vaccine already after 12-18 months. For other type of vaccines this is usually 5-10 years.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Smartvirus on June 10, 2021, 01:41:38 PM
You know, the Covid-19 vaccine seems to be complementary in a way, having first and second doses unlike other vaccines that you take just once and your good for the rest of your lifetime. Well, people are still being vaccinated up till date even for the same illness years back like the small pox, muscles, chicken pox and all so, pretty much the vaccination is likely not to stop especially with the fact that they isn't a cure at hand towards the Covid-19 pandemic that still lingers without a break through. Even with our level of advancement in modern day medicine, we still just have to resve to managing, what an insult. Well, vaccination seems to be the only option toward defeating the pandemic  and with the pandemic here to stay, Covid-19 vaccination could be said to be her to stay too.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on June 10, 2021, 04:18:57 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.


Wuhan collaborator Peter Daszak admits to developing “killer” coronaviruses with communist Chinese (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-06-09-wuhan-collaborator-peter-daszak-admits-to-developing-killer-coronaviruses.html#)



We now know that Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, who funneled millions of dollars to the Wuhan Institute of Virology that carried out gain-of-function weaponization experiments, bragged about his Chinese colleagues (whom he helped fund) creating “killer” coronaviruses.

A video unearthed by The National Pulse and widely circulated yesterday shows Daszak boasting about his research:

Then when you get a sequence of a virus, and it looks like a relative of a known nasty pathogen, just like we did with SARS. We found other coronaviruses in bats, a whole host of them, some of them looked very similar to SARS. So we sequenced the spike protein: the protein that attaches to cells. Then we… Well I didn’t do this work, but my colleagues in China did the work. You create pseudo particles, you insert the spike proteins from those viruses, see if they bind to human cells. At each step of this you move closer and closer to this virus could really become pathogenic in people… You end up with a small number of viruses that really do look like killers.

Daszak was essentially describing the weaponization of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein that is now known to cause vascular damage, blood clots, strokes and other tissue damage while attacking the ovaries, testes, adrenal glands and neurological tissue.

Here’s the video of Daszak:

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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Slow death on June 10, 2021, 04:45:36 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

I hope people don't believe what you posted and will continue to believe in the vaccine and get vaccinated once their governments have vaccines available.



I think that vaccination will not end anytime soon because there are still many countries with long vaccination delays because vaccines are monopolized by rich countries and it is still not absolutely sure how long vaccines will be able to provide immunity


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on June 10, 2021, 10:17:19 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

I hope people don't believe what you posted and will continue to believe in the vaccine and get vaccinated once their governments have vaccines available.


I hate it when this happens. We get these jokers, who almost would like to start a church, so we can have faith in the vaccine. Just have faith, like the vaccine is gonna save you. Who cares about the science that shows that the vaccine church is leading you to damnation.

He even calls himself Slow Death. It's like, don't look at https://www.openvaers.com/ to see that in the USA alone, vaccine death has been a fast one... 500,000 dead from the Covid vaccines, already.

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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on June 10, 2021, 11:34:45 PM


I hate it when this happens. We get these jokers, who almost would like to start a church, so we can have faith in the vaccine. Just have faith, like the vaccine is gonna save you. Who cares about the science that shows that the vaccine church is leading you to damnation.

He even calls himself Slow Death. It's like, don't look at https://www.openvaers.com/ to see that in the USA alone, vaccine death has been a fast one... 500,000 dead from the Covid vaccines, already.

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I'd say DMC is the preacher of the COVID vaccine slo' deaf bro:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH6dCTtgxbY

Preaching yall to hell is what they want check the video of that guy with an upside cross. That means he believes in Satan yall through predictive programing and that ain't the half of it they even show the eugenics tree to gas light the audience that this is not what this about when this is what they want the deaths of black people or anyone to take the vaccine because doc preacher say it then you gotta trust that is good lets all get the vacccine!

They just trying to regulate you out of existence is what it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY

"Three in tha Syringe, subject ta change* and one in the hole
Docta Fauci is bout to make some bodies turn cold
Now they droppin' and yellin', it's a tad bit late
Docta Fauci and Bill Gates had to regulate"

G-Funk in Agenda 2021 :D

Bill Gates wit the patent this link be where its crackin' straight
https://prepareforchange.net/2020/04/24/microsofts-new-mark-of-the-beast-technology-is-patent-060606/


I've got this song in my head for some reason.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: angels2apples on June 10, 2021, 11:37:37 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

I hope people don't believe what you posted and will continue to believe in the vaccine and get vaccinated once their governments have vaccines available.


I hate it when this happens. We get these jokers, who almost would like to start a church, so we can have faith in the vaccine. Just have faith, like the vaccine is gonna save you. Who cares about the science that shows that the vaccine church is leading you to damnation.

He even calls himself Slow Death. It's like, don't look at https://www.openvaers.com/ to see that in the USA alone, vaccine death has been a fast one... 500,000 dead from the Covid vaccines, already.

8)
That site presents 5k deaths so where are you getting 500k?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 10, 2021, 11:43:43 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

I hope people don't believe what you posted and will continue to believe in the vaccine and get vaccinated once their governments have vaccines available.



I think that vaccination will not end anytime soon because there are still many countries with long vaccination delays because vaccines are monopolized by rich countries and it is still not absolutely sure how long vaccines will be able to provide immunity

Just get used to what BADecker is sayin here.  :P Anyway, at the end of the day, it is up to the person himself, whether he will get the shot or not. But definitely, this vaccination program will not end anytime soon. It will be years in the making and so with the vaccine production.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on June 10, 2021, 11:57:51 PM

That site presents 5k deaths so where are you getting 500k?

Yeah he is a quite a bit off on this one. I don't know if he is inferring the exponential adverse reactions that will happen resulting in a quickening of a person's lifespan to expire. Maybe he is talking about the overall adverse reactions from the COVID vaccine which amount to around 300K?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on June 11, 2021, 05:51:47 PM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

I hope people don't believe what you posted and will continue to believe in the vaccine and get vaccinated once their governments have vaccines available.


I hate it when this happens. We get these jokers, who almost would like to start a church, so we can have faith in the vaccine. Just have faith, like the vaccine is gonna save you. Who cares about the science that shows that the vaccine church is leading you to damnation.

He even calls himself Slow Death. It's like, don't look at https://www.openvaers.com/ to see that in the USA alone, vaccine death has been a fast one... 500,000 dead from the Covid vaccines, already.

8)
That site presents 5k deaths so where are you getting 500k?

What? Did you only glance at the site? Check out the part about VAERS only getting 1% of the of the adverse reaction reports.

But, how many deaths do you need? ANY company out there, if their product killed only 5 people, they would shut down and redo their product.

How in the world dense are you? All Big Pharma and Government and the medical and the media are doing is advertising a killer genetic modification serum, and are calling it a vaccine, when they shouldn't have even put it on the market in the first place.

And they aren't even slowing down in the face of the deaths. What do you really think is going on?

8)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Natsuu on June 13, 2021, 08:20:51 AM
This, with the goal of ending the Covid vaccines. This is about the creation of the Covid virus in Wuhan. What's interesting is, the vaccine implants the same kind of stuff into people who take it.

~~~~

The video and the site is the very epitome of nitpicking.

There is much more of that video that was cutted that was very obvious that they don't want to present. And by the looks of it, it is the main "STAND" of the whole statements. The video starts with "THEN"  :-\


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: sapnu on June 13, 2021, 10:53:04 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?

There is no way everyone will get vaccinated all over the world. There will still be some who wouldn't agree on the efficacy and the realness of the vaccine. Some people does not even believe on it knowing that there are a lot of illnesses in the world that haven't had any vaccine up until now. If ever it is really efficient for some and there are many proofs about its effectiveness, maybe that can lead and invite others to get vaccinated. I myself does not believe on it, I am just avoiding it in my own ways nevertheless, I cannot blame those who wants to feels secure and safe that's why they took the vaccine.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on June 14, 2021, 05:08:45 PM
No! No! Don't recall the vaccines. How are we going to effect our world population decrease without it?


MASSIVE VACCINE RECALL! - 60 MILLION DOSES DESTROYED! - MORE SIDE EFFECTS EXPOSED! (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/306475-2021-06-14-massive-vaccine-recall-60-million-doses-destroyed-more-side-effects.htm)



Josh Sigurdson reports on mounting evidence of vaccine injuries and deaths as the CDC calls an emergency meeting and the FDA demands Johnson & Johnson to destroy 60 million doses.

There is new evidence showing serious heart inflammation side effects after taking the covid vaccine as well as long term sterilization and cancer risk. All the while, millions are being coerced into taking the jab and following the crowd, with many kids being told they won't see their friends again until they receive the vaccine. At the same time, children are also being bribed with hundreds of thousands of dollars as well as scholarships if they receive doses.

This is all incredibly criminal and goes against the Nuremberg Code, but nonetheless, the state cares not how they coerce the masses, as long as the masses follow along in cowardly fear.


MASSIVE Vaccine Recall! - 60 MILLION DOSES DESTROYED! - More Side Effects Exposed!
https://static-3.bitchute.com/live/cover_images/gzFCj8AuSWgp/nVtQRSuvj3UZ_640x360.jpg
https://www.bitchute.com/video/nVtQRSuvj3UZ/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/nVtQRSuvj3UZ/)


8)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 25, 2021, 04:04:16 PM

As long as enough people contribute to the vaccine industry it want end, why whould it end it's top dollar for big pharma and also easy money.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: stAndRow on November 25, 2021, 09:34:15 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?



Vaccination in one country is one very expensive project, politicians dont waste their time trading with crypto, they trade with our vaccines. ;D ;D


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 26, 2021, 10:30:34 AM
Now there is a new birth control pill,
it still allowes to get pregnant,
requires to wear a condom,
and your kids also must take even so not anatomically mature or know about sex.
but it is necessary to take it to ensure your neighbour does not get pregnant.

When no neighbour gets pregnant anymore you can stop taking the pill.
Better sign up early, discounts for early birds to the subscription service


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: blackened515 on November 27, 2021, 09:42:15 PM
The Covid-19 vaccine will help to prevent the rapid spread of the virus. But,I don't think it will be possible to vaccinate everyone in the world. Remember, not everyone wants the vaccine in their system, some people actually thinks the vaccine have negative effect. While others said, they are not infected, so there is no reason for them to talke the vaccine. However, vaccination won't stop anytime sooner, because new cases keep arising everyday.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 28, 2021, 08:29:34 AM


Why would you want the vaccination to end its a money spin. It's raining money without doing anything except  convince some to take it.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1464750270026555397


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on November 28, 2021, 10:51:40 AM
The Covid-19 vaccine will help to prevent the rapid spread of the virus. But,I don't think it will be possible to vaccinate everyone in the world. Remember, not everyone wants the vaccine in their system, some people actually thinks the vaccine have negative effect. While others said, they are not infected, so there is no reason for them to talke the vaccine. However, vaccination won't stop anytime sooner, because new cases keep arising everyday.
The point is, humans will always have there convictions or perceptions about a thing and you can't blame the many that must have refused to be vaccinated. The Covid-19 vaccines did come with some negative news prior to its development and up to this moment, non (that I've heard of) could be said to have been perfected not to have a side effects.
The singular knowledge of an imperfect system, one that can be fatal, cause some catastrophic damage to the body and most of all, the Covid-19 itself and cases is not proven to all as per eye witness, taking the vaccine becomes a big problem.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Slow death on November 28, 2021, 11:34:18 PM
I'm glad I found this topic again, I want to encourage people not to be fooled by people who are against vaccine, please get vaccinated and save yourself and encourage people around you to vaccinate too


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 29, 2021, 07:08:59 AM
I'm glad I found this topic again, I want to encourage people not to be fooled by people who are against vaccine, please get vaccinated and save yourself and encourage people around you to vaccinate too

Go and tell Kyle Warner that he needs a booster to do his bit to stay healthy, he is a former professional Mountain Biker
https://youtu.be/i7wuzX-YofE

also
https://i.ibb.co/cypnjd2/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: June Delas on November 29, 2021, 09:02:53 AM
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 https://treeservicesofasheville.com/


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on November 29, 2021, 10:07:43 AM

Simple answer: Never.  Periodic injections for all but a tiny fraction of the upper elite are now the 'new normal'.  I am expecting injections to become quarterly, although there is some possibility that with 'smart pills' the leadership can achieve their herd management needs without direct tissue injections.  If they do, they should be able to use kiosks which will update the vaccine passports.

If you mean the so-called 'covid-19 vaccination', they need to get to basically 100% just as Bill Gates said back in early 2020.  The simple reason for this is that anything less than completely trivial 'control group' would make it much more difficult to blame the culling on some new disease.  That is to say, people would start asking why those who didn't get the covid-19 jab seem to be immune from Ebola or Smallpox or whatever the march out next.

It is worth note that they only need to get to 100% 'on paper' to achieve the aforementioned utility.  Not actually inject stuff into people's tissues.  Plenty of insiders will be 'vaccinated', but won't actually get the gene therapy (+ whatever else is being field tested.)



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: bakasabo on November 29, 2021, 10:19:30 AM

Simple answer: Never.  Periodic injections for all but a tiny fraction of the upper elite are now the 'new normal'.  I am expecting injections to become quarterly, although there is some possibility that with 'smart pills' the leadership can achieve their herd management needs without direct tissue injections.  If they do, they should be able to use kiosks which will update the vaccine passports.

I fully agree that vaccination will last forever. Like yearly flu vaccine, but with covid vaccine, this is obligatory to take. It will last forever (but I hope not, and hope that in years our bodies will work out an immunity, at least partly) because covid virus develops all the time. How many covid strains we have now? Last one I heard was African. And more and more often I hear covid certificate expire dates.

I dont like the idea of vaccine passports and kiosks. Right now there are people who has bought certificates without having a vaccine. If certificates will be available in kiosks, there amount of cheaters will greatly increase.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gosgosking on November 29, 2021, 10:21:44 AM
Taking of vaccine will automatically end when the virus will be no more. If the virus is to be no more people can't keep on taking vaccine when there is no virus.  What will they be taking it for??. The reason for the vaccination is for prevention and to safe life.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 29, 2021, 10:39:28 AM
Taking of vaccine will automatically end when the virus will be no more. If the virus is to be no more people can't keep on taking vaccine when there is no virus.  What will they be taking it for??. The reason for the vaccination is for prevention and to safe life.
Would you be please be so kind and provide links of its scientific existence, you be a true hero.
Last i checked the  €1.5 million euro reward (https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/)  still stands.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on November 29, 2021, 12:16:05 PM
Taking of vaccine will automatically end when the virus will be no more. If the virus is to be no more people can't keep on taking vaccine when there is no virus.  What will they be taking it for??. The reason for the vaccination is for prevention and to safe life.

The reason for YOU to take the jab is for THEM to have a safe life.

This is about keeping 'the herd' in such a condition that they do not pose a threat to the existing power structure.  Nothing more and nothing less.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on November 29, 2021, 12:50:24 PM
German Chemistry PHD Dr. Andreas Noack warning the covid death shots act like razor blades (subtitles only  but the video cost him is life)
https://thewatchtowers.org/german-chemistry-phd-murdered-today-for-this-warning-the-shots-dont-have-graphene-oxide-they-have-graphene-hydroxide-nano-scale-razor-blades/
or video at https://seed125.bitchute.com/LxVBAHP3O0Hj/X9oMvf6dbhCi.mp4
alternativ
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-andreas-noack-razor-blades-particles-in-the-quot-vaccines-quot_Q1RZhCpxbFBhF9M.html

Live documentation of the arrest of Dr. Andreas Noack on November 19, 2020, ✝ on November 26, 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoftT-DPVCc
Very dark days in the world once again




Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on November 29, 2021, 10:17:20 PM
The reason for YOU to take the jab is for THEM to have a safe life.

I can't help but laugh when someone makes the case that someone else needs to be vaccinated in order for them to be protected. If that is your strategy for public confidence in the vaccine, then you're failing miserably and hopelessly. Something like 99 percent of the adult population, and children above 5, can get vaccinated. And so there is no reason for anyone to be concerned about someone else's vaccination status. If you are so concerned, that suggests to me like you don't have any confidence in your own choice to get vaccinated, or an unrealistic fear of the chance of death from Covid following vaccination. There is no consistency from these people.

"You must get vaccinated to protect ME."

Good luck with that message, hope it goes well.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: worldofcoins on November 30, 2021, 09:45:59 PM
The aim of this vaccination is to protect everyone from this COVID-19 pandemic. The government is vaccinating their citizens just as a Preventive measurement. It seems that this fever disease would not go to be ended just like polio, flu, pneumonia e.t.c.
So this vaccination process will last long just because of this disease.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 01, 2021, 01:42:27 PM
On a positive, more and more worthless shills suffer so it will end sooner as expected
https://odysee.com/@realworldnews:d/astrid-stuckelberger-who-whistleblower:8
https://i.ibb.co/h8BY8Tb/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Russlenat on December 01, 2021, 01:50:11 PM
Vaccination will not end as long as the virus can destroy our health.

Experts created a vaccine for the present covid-19 virus but the virus mutates and create a new virus that the present vaccines might not be effective anymore. However, the good news is that our experts are already aware of it and they will continue to create a vaccine to keep people safe. I am vaccinated now, just recently and I'm waiting for my 2nd does, but if there's a new vaccine coming out, then I think have to get vaccinated again as long as it's safe.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: lienfaye on December 02, 2021, 02:24:33 AM
Vaccination will not end as long as the virus can destroy our health.

Experts created a vaccine for the present covid-19 virus but the virus mutates and create a new virus that the present vaccines might not be effective anymore. However, the good news is that our experts are already aware of it and they will continue to create a vaccine to keep people safe. I am vaccinated now, just recently and I'm waiting for my 2nd does, but if there's a new vaccine coming out, then I think have to get vaccinated again as long as it's safe.
Vaccines are needed to protect ourselves against the virus. It might not be 100% effective (since I saw some vaccinated people still had covid despite of being vaccinated) but its helpful to have a strong immune system (I think thats how it works to our body) and a way to fight the virus. Its just sad that new strain is again, existing, it seems like its not going to end sooner.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on December 02, 2021, 03:57:06 AM
I'm glad I found this topic again, I want to encourage people not to be fooled by people who are against vaccine, please get vaccinated and save yourself and encourage people around you to vaccinate too

Right! People are religious beings. They need some kind of religion to give meaning to their lives, even if it is one that doesn't have a god. When you look at all the people the vaxxes have killed, their benefit lies in the fact gf the placebo effect hope that it gives those taking the jab. Some of these people actually think themselves better.

The placebo effect of the jab saves them through their faith in it.

8)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: LTU_btc on December 02, 2021, 08:53:15 PM
Vaccination isn't going to end anytime soon. Seems that some European countries is moving towards mandatory vaccination. Austria already enforced it from Februrary 1st, Germany probably is going to vote on it, European Commission president von der Leyen said that EU countries should debate on this topic:
https://www.euronews.com/2021/12/02/are-countries-in-europe-are-moving-towards-mandatory-vaccination
For me it seems that most things which were marked as conspiracy theories in the start of vaccination is slowly turning into reality. First they said that vaccination will be free choice, now it's turning int mandatory thing. Or children vaccination - first they called conspiracy theory, now it's already thing.
And question, how many shots will be enough. For example, my country ordered somewhere about 16 millions shots when our population is way bellow 3 millions. You can do maths yourself. But I feel that after it it won't be end already


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 03, 2021, 08:23:42 AM

So somebody "fully vaccinated" (two shots) now needs a booster otherwise looses vaccination status but it still does not help for Omicron it's Moronic?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 03, 2021, 08:54:25 AM

So somebody "fully vaccinated" (two shots) now needs a booster otherwise looses vaccination status but it still does not help for Omicron it's Moronic?

From what I can tell, to the degree that there is a 'omicron' at all, and to the extent that anyone might even need 'help' with it, it is much less so than even with the original or the largely vaccine induced variants such as so-called 'delta'.

Seems that 'omicron' came from four 'vaccinated' foreigners who may have been in-country to visit one of the many bioweapons loving good-ness research labs which the U.S. (and Western associates) run in Africa.  I'm pleasantly surprised that it seems to be yet another nothingburger in terms health effects.  Probably they just added some genetics into 'omicron' for which they want an excuse to put into the 'specially tuned' boosters.

People with natural immunity sterilize (completely kill off) all SARS-cov-2 family viruses and don't incubate variants.  Vaccinated persons' immune systems have been directed toward the extinct original and are blinded to variants so they harbor the mutant virus and allow it to mutate even further to better evade the re-programmed ('vaccinated') immune system, then spread the results around the community.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 04, 2021, 09:06:00 AM



Thanh Hóa province suspends Pfizer vaccine after 120 children hospitalized and three children have died following their vaccination with the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in Bac Giang, Hanoi and Binh Phuoc. The cause of death has been determined as "overreaction to the vaccine."
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-suspends-pfizer-vaccine-batch-4397748.html


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: D-law on December 05, 2021, 05:15:34 AM
Cases of Corona virus is still pumping out,with this I don't the vaccination will come to an end very soon.
In my own view some are still scared and reluctant to take this vaccine shot's, having high levels of insecurities within them.
I hope they see the light and do so, because with the vaccination a whole lot would have died.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 05, 2021, 09:02:26 AM
You Can Stick your Vaccine Mandates up your Ass!  You Can Stick.....
https://youtu.be/lJAMua8J_94

Cures for covid that do work.  Chlorine dioxide 97% cure rate; Ivermectin; HCQ & azitromycine & zinc; Budesonid...
https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/

https://retalk.com/storage/images/uploaded/u_432cd3950ff6aff99027c26c23c6a97c61ac4fbb08fed__rwow800__rwoh792.33333333333__rwms29.333333333333.jpg


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BADecker on December 05, 2021, 11:12:05 PM
When will the vaccination end?


The needles are about 2 or 3 feet too short.



8)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: blackened515 on December 06, 2021, 08:12:58 PM
It had been 2 years since the outbreak of the virus, and still the world haven't gotten it under control. I don't think vaccination will end anything sooner, because we keep recording new Covid-19 cases everyday. The Government are basically making plans on how to get everyone vaccinated. But, It will be tough for them to achieve that. Reason been that, Some people are afraid of taking the vaccine. For example, me. While others believes the vaccines are poisonous.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 07, 2021, 01:52:41 PM

It should have ended a long long time ago, the amount of death and suffering from this toxic shot is stagering.
Nurses, paramedic ambulance officers and other hospital workers in the Eastern Australian state of Queensland report they have seen people’s lives destroyed by the COVID vaccine euthanasia shots with delayed effect.

https://goodsciencing.com/covid/australian-medics-see-covid-vaxx-kills-people/

Fit and healty on day, death the next. Imagine if you old and weak and get this toxic load injected.
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/71-athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-26-die-after-covid-shot/


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: suzanne5223 on December 07, 2021, 03:18:24 PM
It had been 2 years since the outbreak of the virus, and still the world haven't gotten it under control.
How would the world have the covid-19 under control when some powerful people don't want it to end by abusing the situation through the creation of some deadly vaccine that's the reason I choose not to take the vaccine after all doing good and following the good health hygiene.

I don't think vaccination will end anything sooner, because we keep recording new Covid-19 cases everyday.
Yes, the vaccine will never end the situation if the world especially the powerful one is not ready to end the virus reign.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 07, 2021, 07:12:03 PM

Quote
"There’s not going to be an endpoint to this vaccination program...,"
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1468291374114119687?s=19
Darling, you can bet your balls there will a end to your torture program

A step at a time
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/biden-vaccine-mandate-for-federal-contractors-blocked-nationwide


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: urro on December 07, 2021, 07:25:09 PM
We are only at stage 5 of this corona virus  ::) Imagine another virus at same time, do we really want no vaccination at all?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Spontaneous on December 10, 2021, 03:39:36 PM
  I think the vaccination is still not predicted to end cause we all know that we still had a case of Covid -19 and still more people hesitate to get the vaccine because of their wrong mindset that when they get the vaccine they will die. A good thing is that the case is slowing down. But now we had another variant which is Omicron so let's prepare and just expect that there are another vaccines.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 10, 2021, 04:06:52 PM

Yes i know already
 Natural Immunity More Protective Over Time Than COVID-19 Vaccination (https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/natural-immunity-more-protective-over-time-than-covid-19-vaccination-study_4149953.html?utm_source=News&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-12-10-2&mktids=f8b6cc6f7d710d6fa53e722520e41e38&est=OD4UKC8J5QakxPmRoItSwhISmhE7famEGNvoq11D%2FlL7rovQhKveeuclK%2Fm5)


European parliament MEP's about the mandatory vaccination in EU as proposed by Ursula von der Leyen
https://youtu.be/YTIvlu9DjdI
What the world is dealing with
https://i.ibb.co/YccWf18/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/mqtxCDm/Untitled1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


You can stick your new world order up your arse
https://youtu.be/7MqdAPt4rT8


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Newlifebtc on December 12, 2021, 04:17:05 AM
No date yet assigned to the end of vaccination.
All doing great what's right is all that matters
Get yourself vaccinated,stay healthy,safe and wear a nose mask.
This is not a big deal but everyone just too reluctant to do this.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Ultegra134 on December 12, 2021, 07:18:13 AM
Of course and there's a plan to vaccinate the whole population, however, I don't see it happening anytime soon. Most vaccines were distributed in developed countries, mostly in Europe, USA and Asia, completely forgetting about other nations in Africa, or in poorer parts of Asia. This practice is now backfiring, with the new Omicron variant, which is a result of little to no vaccinations in the African continent. Let's note here that Botswana has an average percentage of 20% fully vaccinated citizens, while the entire continent's vaccination coverage is depressing.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Hadmani on December 12, 2021, 09:53:13 AM
How can the vaccination end when new strains of the virus keep coming up. This is becoming worrisome honestly.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 12, 2021, 07:50:02 PM

Why not make it daily?
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1469758931761258500


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 13, 2021, 05:32:36 AM

Why not make it daily?
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1469758931761258500

My 'gut feeling' has for a long time been that they'd choose quarterly.  No particular scientific reason for this, and the operational aspects are more associated with social and psychological considerations anyway, but quarterly infusions offer more bio-engineering flexibility.

I figure that ultimately they'll be synthesizing RNA/DNA within the body by use of implantables.  These will, of course, be programmable remotely and in continuous operation.  But a regime of going to a health care facility (or kiosk) for old-school injections will have to suffice until these 'OTA' methods are worked out.  First they will do system-read-and-data-transfer implantables, then shift over to the 'new models' which have 'write capabilities' and they will be marketed as more convenient than going in for one's injections.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: OgNasty on December 13, 2021, 06:56:04 AM
How can the vaccination end when new strains of the virus keep coming up. This is becoming worrisome honestly.

It will never end.  No government programs are temporary.  I think the saying goes, "there is nothing more permanent than a temporary government program."  Even if we stamped out Covid completely, they would find another reason why the program would have to continue.  There's lots of processes being put in place and employees being hired to run these programs.  All of that doesn't just go away one day.  All we're seeing here is the reaction to Americans not getting on board with socialized medicine.  We never had a choice and those of us who have held out due to our principles will only continue to be attacked more and more.  Job losses, banning from public places, fines, etc...  Expect things to get worse before they get better.  Biden still has a few years left.  The amount of damage he can still cause should terrify anyone who has walked the aisles of their supermarket lately.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 13, 2021, 07:54:57 AM
How can the vaccination end when new strains of the virus keep coming up. This is becoming worrisome honestly.

It will never end.  No government programs are temporary.  I think the saying goes, "there is nothing more permanent than a temporary government program."  Even if we stamped out Covid completely, they would find another reason why the program would have to continue.  There's lots of processes being put in place and employees being hired to run these programs.  All of that doesn't just go away one day.  All we're seeing here is the reaction to Americans not getting on board with socialized medicine.  We never had a choice and those of us who have held out due to our principles will only continue to be attacked more and more.  Job losses, banning from public places, fines, etc...  Expect things to get worse before they get better.  Biden still has a few years left.  The amount of damage he can still cause should terrify anyone who has walked the aisles of their supermarket lately.

The vaccination will end as soon as you establish your own govenment. Then by unanimous democratic decision end the vaccination.
You can always have contracts, cooperations, bilateral agreements, pacts, join forces, coact, do business with, work with and aid other governments, hostile once are boycotted.


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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: uelque on December 13, 2021, 11:06:47 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


Vaccination can be ended, if a new drug is established and if it is found to be working effectively. That is only way we can end vaccination.

And yes it is possible to vaccinate everyone, specially if it is made mandatory by your government.

But I still believe a new drug will be found and it will stop covid19 infections and vaccination. Vaccines are not cure, they are just made to help our system prepare for the virus if ever we get infected. What we need is a cure, and soon it will be found.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 13, 2021, 11:34:55 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


Vaccination can be ended, if a new drug is established and if it is found to be working effectively. That is only way we can end vaccination.

And yes it is possible to vaccinate everyone, specially if it is made mandatory by your government.

But I still believe a new drug will be found and it will stop covid19 infections and vaccination. Vaccines are not cure, they are just made to help our system prepare for the virus if ever we get infected. What we need is a cure, and soon it will be found.
No new drug need to be found, lots already available but not used.
You live in absolute dream land, totally dedached from reality. Theoretical and practical is two things, even theoretical for a so called vaccine to work everone would need to be vaccineted at the same time, utter utopia in praxis.

Working hart to stop something known to work
https://twitter.com/AaronSiriSG/status/1470182424797609984?s=20

Maybe the "vaccines" fix it                         Let's face it people have all kind of relatives
https://i.ibb.co/bJ7jPL7/Unt1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/bzw0ZBk/Unt2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Thymoty on December 13, 2021, 10:08:47 PM
This also makes me curious, in my country vaccination is currently being held for small children and I heard there will be a third wave for adults!


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 14, 2021, 11:17:14 AM
In times like this, something light hearted
https://youtu.be/9Si6ojCYI2o

Evidence is insufficient to back mandatory NHS staff vaccination, says House of Lords committee
https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2957/rr-1

https://i.ibb.co/WgFXW2S/Unt4.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 15, 2021, 12:17:20 PM
The vaccination will end as soon as you establish your own govenment. Then by unanimous democratic decision end the vaccination.

Will you end all vaccinations?  Eventually if we stick together and ignore all the doctors we could probably bring enough of the old school viruses back to life like Polio, Cholera, Small pox... wouldn't be long before we've got a good old fashioned plague on our hands!  That would be so sick!


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 15, 2021, 06:04:56 PM
Has ended, or never stated you just have to be in the right country and not some shithole.
Japan says NO to vaccine mandates, passports, and discrimination against unvaxxed
https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/japan-says-no-to-vaccine-mandates-passports-and-discrimination-against-unvaxxed


https://i.ibb.co/jwFN4d3/Unt2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 15, 2021, 07:28:41 PM
Has ended, or never stated you just have to be in the right country and not some shithole.
Japan says NO to vaccine mandates, passports, and discrimination against unvaxxed
https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/japan-says-no-to-vaccine-mandates-passports-and-discrimination-against-unvaxxed

https://i.ibb.co/jwFN4d3/Unt2.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Japan has a high number of technically competent people.  An unsustainable number of people would realize that for sure their government is out to democide them.  The govt just doesn't have the latitude that others in less intellectually developed countries or ones where they have been teaching/inculcating scientsim for a long time such as the U.S..

I don't see the tweet so maybe it has been removed already, but I also don't have a twatter account so I don't understand the platform well.  Would be interesting to know the presentation Boulle is referencing.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 16, 2021, 02:54:14 AM
Japan says NO to vaccine mandates, passports, and discrimination against unvaxxed

Japan situation is does make a good case against vaccine mandates, their vax rate is higher than most other countries with mandates. I imagine that's mostly due to them having a much smaller population of conspirtards though.

https://i.gyazo.com/57dd35d099d2ee3d75d1f068659ac5c2.png





That's the anti vaxxer on the advisory board saying that, not a statement by the FDA.  And he's not a doctor or scientists, he's a tech guy that is building a business around Covid treatment.  He invented the optical mouse though, which is cool.

This tech millionaire went from covid trial funder to misinformation superspreader

After boosting unproven covid drugs and campaigning against vaccines, Steve Kirsch was abandoned by his team of scientific advisers—and left out of a job.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036408/silicon-valley-millionaire-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/


In May 2021, Kirsch posted an article online making an unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility, while also underplaying the vaccines' ability to prevent illness and death.[10] The following month, Kirsch appeared in a YouTube video posted with Bret Weinstein and Robert W. Malone to discuss COVID-19 vaccines. In the video, Kirsch makes several false claims, including that spike proteins used in COVID-19 vaccines are "very dangerous".

Smart move by the conspiratards though.  Find the one cook that got onto the FDA advisory board and then quote him as "FDA".


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 17, 2021, 03:37:04 AM
More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fentanyl-overdoses-leading-cause-death-adults

How often have you heard about preventing drug OD's in the conversation of vaccinations or Covid restrictions?

The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate. If the goal is to save lives, they would move past Covid-19, but they can't let it go. They don't want to let it go.

And on that note, we are still one or two deaths, world wide, of the omicron variant. Didn't prevent the health experts from pushing hysteria on the late night television news shows.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 17, 2021, 06:58:58 AM
More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020.

.............

 People Will Die!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 17, 2021, 10:32:55 AM
The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate.
No, you're the one that's unable to keep politics and science separate.

Over the past 100 years public health experts have contributed more to humanity than any other group arguably in history with vaccines being among their greatest accomplishments and reasons for human life expectancy basically doubling.  And today, public health experts have more resources and knowledge than at any other point in history.  They aren't the ones making vaccines or wearing a mask during a pandemic political.  The politicians telling you they are, are the ones doing that.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 17, 2021, 02:39:25 PM
The vaccination will end when either:
A, everyone has signet up to the beast QR code
B, everyone died from the xyz booster shot, or
C, everone is blind
https://mynewscorp.com/so-many-people-are-going-blind-after-getting-the-covid-19-vaccine-why-is-that-happening/


Irrelevant Australian adverse reaction reports
https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-entry.aspx


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 17, 2021, 03:56:40 PM
The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate.
No, you're the one that's unable to keep politics and science separate.

Over the past 100 years public health experts have contributed more to humanity than any other group arguably in history with vaccines being among their greatest accomplishments and reasons for human life expectancy basically doubling.


Yes, I've heard the talking points before, about masking and lockdowns. Meanwhile, I don't think you could possibly cite a single Covid statistic off memory because the line "vaccines are safe and effective" is all you know, or care to know. And I'm pro vaccine for people that need it, I also happen to factor the publicly available literature and data from countries that offer it in my analysis. Masking, lockdowns, mandates, have been politicized because the "experts" are refusing to acknowledge these efforts generally don't work by all available data. But they've already created the narrative, and it's difficult to disrupt.

And today, public health experts have more resources and knowledge than at any other point in history.  They aren't the ones making vaccines or wearing a mask during a pandemic political.  The politicians telling you they are, are the ones doing that.

The same experts telling children to mask despite Covid having a lower death rate than the flu? Those experts?

There are plenty of public health experts that are able to separate politics and science. Someone like Dr. Fauci is not, but somehow he has risen to become the most popular health expert in the world.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 17, 2021, 05:47:36 PM
The same experts telling children to mask despite Covid having a lower death rate than the flu? Those experts?

Yes.  The most qualified, experienced scientists and doctors in the world.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: suchmoon on December 17, 2021, 06:16:28 PM
More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fentanyl-overdoses-leading-cause-death-adults

How often have you heard about preventing drug OD's in the conversation of vaccinations or Covid restrictions?

That's quite absurd even by your typical straw man logic. How often have you heard about preventing ODs in the conversation about flu vaccines? Or measles?

It doesn't mean those problems aren't being discussed. Unfortunately e.g. in our county the same twats who spread COVID-19 anti-vax nonsense are also against increasing health department's budget for naloxone, let alone promoting non-opioid painkillers and other longer-term solutions.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 17, 2021, 07:26:41 PM
More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fentanyl-overdoses-leading-cause-death-adults

How often have you heard about preventing drug OD's in the conversation of vaccinations or Covid restrictions?

That's quite absurd even by your typical straw man logic. How often have you heard about preventing ODs in the conversation about flu vaccines? Or measles?

It doesn't mean those problems aren't being discussed. Unfortunately e.g. in our county the same twats who spread COVID-19 anti-vax nonsense are also against increasing health department's budget for naloxone, let alone promoting non-opioid painkillers and other longer-term solutions.



No, the problems aren't being discussed in fact. In Europe, drug OD's increasing as well despite the strong social support programs and funding, because lockdowns have unintended consequences.

One of the biggest lies purported during the pandemic is that government cares about your life, they never have. Government cares about government. They will do anything to hold more power, and Covid is just an excuse.

Remember, in a post 9/11 world, the security agencies would argue that warrantless spying on Americans was done for your safety. Surely you don't believe them. It's the same concept with another script.

So while Americans die of fentanyl overdoses, obesity, car crashes, cancer, they'll do so wearing a mask so they can at least do it safely.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: OgNasty on December 17, 2021, 07:42:40 PM
End?  LOL...  Imagine the government ending a temporary program...  Once you give them an inch you're never getting your mile back.  I refuse to take one single step down a path of regular injections from the government.  "Two weeks to flatten the curve" suddenly turned into, "winter of illness, death" for those who don't get the vaccine.  Even in the face of a diminishing threat, the government is doubling down on the fearmongering.  Not to mention the vaccine has shown that it doesn't stop the spread, so the entire thing is a bad joke on the human population to the tune of trillions of dollars wasted.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Slow death on December 17, 2021, 11:19:41 PM
End?  LOL...  Imagine the government ending a temporary program...  Once you give them an inch you're never getting your mile back.  I refuse to take one single step down a path of regular injections from the government.  "Two weeks to flatten the curve" suddenly turned into, "winter of illness, death" for those who don't get the vaccine.  Even in the face of a diminishing threat, the government is doubling down on the fearmongering.  Not to mention the vaccine has shown that it doesn't stop the spread, so the entire thing is a bad joke on the human population to the tune of trillions of dollars wasted.

well let's imagine that if in February 2020 all governments forced people to wear masks, forced people to comply with social distancing, and let's also assume that everyone in the world abides by these rules. we wouldn't have so many deaths and we wouldn't have this frightening number of cases, so the problem is not with governments, the problem is with people who are stubborn and have a way of thinking that even just hearing what they think hurts my brain. in this same thread we have certain people who are against vaccine, honestly every time I read the post of these people against vaccine I wonder if these people against vaccine are still on this planet


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: im posible on December 18, 2021, 02:43:16 AM
Not everyone has to be immunized to achieve group immunity, in theory it only takes 60-70% of people who are vaccinated against Covid so that all people are protected from Covid. But that's according to theory, we don't know the facts on the ground because the vaccine has not reached 60% of the world's population, besides that we also don't know the effectiveness of the covid-19 vaccine against the further attacks of covid-19, plus the number of variants of covid is increasing, which means there are also more types of vaccines available must be vaccinated again. So it can't be predicted when the vaccination will end.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 18, 2021, 08:27:57 AM
One of the most profitable industries and govenment have already signed multi year contracts. All you need is a new spook every now and then and good dose of fools longing for a free pizza.
https://i.ibb.co/Bsd9krv/Unt3.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/hHN9F6R/Unt.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 18, 2021, 05:39:05 PM
Japan situation is does make a good case against vaccine mandates, their vax rate is higher than most other countries with mandates. I imagine that's mostly due to them having a much smaller population of conspirtards though.

Japanese society is, to Western people, very strange. The people are extremely obedient. I think if the government says take a vaccine, the people will take a vaccine. I was in Japan a few years back. Just some anecdotal evidence to illustrate the point, but I witnessed a drunken fight in Tokyo, two guys came out of a bar, stood a few paces away from each other, started yelling but took turns to do so, each politely letting the other finish before he started. After a few minutes of this they bowed to each other, and went back in. The culture is very different there, I'm sure this is a contributing factor to vaccine take-up.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: nakamura12 on December 18, 2021, 10:37:39 PM
Even if it's not possible to vaccinate everyone in the world but I am sure they will try to vaccinate as many as they can. Even in my country, starting from January, they will implement a rule that those who didn't have a vaccination card can't enter an establishment like malls and after that many people are gathering in a vaccination center to get vaccinated. It is like a business but is about vaccines.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 19, 2021, 08:38:14 AM
Even if it's not possible to vaccinate everyone in the world but I am sure they will try to vaccinate as many as they can. Even in my country, starting from January, they will implement a rule that those who didn't have a vaccination card can't enter an establishment like malls and after that many people are gathering in a vaccination center to get vaccinated. It is like a business but is about vaccines.

There clearly should be more pandemics its spells massive profits, Pfizer and co can't believe there luck, investers done everything to prolong it.
Massive pofit for some very very deathly toxic injections for others who partake, (yes we know some got saline injections, they be fine)
https://rumble.com/vr0yj2-stew-peters-scientific-proof-covid-injections-are-mass-poisoning.html

If cancer and heart issues is not enough  https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-17-82-percent-women-suffer-abortion-covid-jab.html

Only just the beginning lets revisit in 5 years when pandemic is in full operation
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Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 23, 2021, 12:46:00 PM
No one are going to be ready to tell when the vaccine will end because the second dose is starting anew after the primary dose is complete


You only about a year behind times. Only two doses in a lot of places is considered "unvaccinated" Israel started with forth.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-offer-fourth-dose-covid-19-vaccine-people-over-60-2021-12-21/


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 23, 2021, 02:57:31 PM
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
That's all I read. Amazing.

The plan (as far as they say) is to vaccinate as many people as possible. Past a certain percentage of the population, herd immunity can be achieved and the need for vaccinating everybody decreases.
Meanwhile, the virus keeps mutating, and extra doses may or may not be needed. In any case, you can choose not to be vaccinated, and deal with the consequences, should you have to.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 23, 2021, 04:31:56 PM
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
That's all I read. Amazing.

The plan (as far as they say) is to vaccinate as many people as possible. Past a certain percentage of the population, herd immunity can be achieved and the need for vaccinating everybody decreases.
Meanwhile, the virus keeps mutating, and extra doses may or may not be needed. In any case, you can choose not to be vaccinated, and deal with the consequences, should you have to.

You already have herd immunity because herd immunity is vaccinated population + natural immunity, but since the vaccinated can still transmit Covid, it's not really that effective.

And I would argue that those with natural immunity have more robust protection and don't require the need for continuing boosters, but that's another discussion.

We are at 2 years of Covid with world wide spread, had the vaccines been working as intended, the percentage of people with antibodies (or B cell/T cell immunity) would have long been past. At this point, it's in nearly everyone's interest to get infected with Omicron. High transmissibility, mild cold like symptoms. It's essentially the ticket out of the pandemic, yet there are failed attempts at trying to control it.

Still waiting from the "experts" for the data that Omicron is dangerous. The death counts for Omicron are negligible as of now.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 23, 2021, 05:13:42 PM
At this point, it's in nearly everyone's interest to get infected with Omicron. High transmissibility, mild cold like symptoms. It's essentially the ticket out of the pandemic, yet there are failed attempts at trying to control it.
Still waiting from the "experts" for the data that Omicron is dangerous. The death counts for Omicron are negligible as of now.

Early data do indeed suggest that symptoms are milder on average, but that transmissibility is vastly higher. The main reason for concern is that even if the percentage of infected people who have severe symptoms is lower, the total number of people who require hospitalisation can still be sufficiently high to overwhelm the service.

Hypothetical numbers to illustrate the point:

Delta: 10% of cases are severe, 100 people infected, so 10 people with severe symptoms.
Omicron: 5% of cases are severe, 500 people infected, so 25 people with severe symptoms.




We are at 2 years of Covid with world wide spread, had the vaccines been working as intended, the percentage of people with antibodies (or B cell/T cell immunity) would have long been past.

Yes, if by "working as intended" you mean "everyone gets vaccinated". Developed nations have hoarded the vaccines, which means poorer nations are less protected and have more infections, which leads to more new variants, some of which will be at least partially vaccine-resistant, which means they spread back to developed nations. It's no coincidence that Omicron arose in a nation with a low vaccination rate.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 23, 2021, 05:28:05 PM
Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
That's all I read. Amazing.

The plan (as far as they say) is to vaccinate as many people as possible. Past a certain percentage of the population, herd immunity can be achieved and the need for vaccinating everybody decreases.
Meanwhile, the virus keeps mutating, and extra doses may or may not be needed. In any case, you can choose not to be vaccinated, and deal with the consequences, should you have to.

You already have herd immunity because herd immunity is vaccinated population + natural immunity, but since the vaccinated can still transmit Covid, it's not really that effective.

And I would argue that those with natural immunity have more robust protection and don't require the need for continuing boosters, but that's another discussion.

We are at 2 years of Covid with world wide spread, had the vaccines been working as intended, the percentage of people with antibodies (or B cell/T cell immunity) would have long been past. At this point, it's in nearly everyone's interest to get infected with Omicron. High transmissibility, mild cold like symptoms. It's essentially the ticket out of the pandemic, yet there are failed attempts at trying to control it.

Still waiting from the "experts" for the data that Omicron is dangerous. The death counts for Omicron are negligible as of now.

To make it short: I don't care.
I'm not an infectologist, nor am I qualified in any way to make decisions as to how to deal with the pandemic, so I trust those that are. I don't follow bullshit "news" with an agenda. If a new vaccine comes available, I'll stick my arm out. Otherwise, I have enough problems as it is, to be wasting my time on things I know nothing about.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 23, 2021, 05:49:42 PM
Yes, if by "working as intended" you mean "everyone gets vaccinated". Developed nations have hoarded the vaccines, which means poorer nations are less protected and have more infections, which leads to more new variants, some of which will be at least partially vaccine-resistant, which means they spread back to developed nations. It's no coincidence that Omicron arose in a nation with a low vaccination rate.

You understand that even it's impossible to inoculate every person in the world simultaneously to prevent any variants from originating? Pfizer's vaccine had the highest efficacy at 95%, so even if everyone was vaccinated, there still would be transmission amongst a small portion of the population. It's how upper respiratory viruses work, they are too transmissible.

You also understand that there is data to suggest that the vaccines are not doing well against Omicron, correct? You seem to think the answer to anything Covid related is vaccination despite what the evidence might show.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 23, 2021, 06:09:19 PM
You understand that even it's impossible to inoculate every person in the world simultaneously to prevent any variants from originating? Pfizer's vaccine had the highest efficacy at 95%, so even if everyone was vaccinated, there still would be transmission amongst a small portion of the population. It's how upper respiratory viruses work, they are too transmissible.

You also understand that there is data to suggest that the vaccines are not doing well against Omicron, correct? You seem to think the answer to anything Covid related is vaccination despite what the evidence might show.

No, there isn't. The fact that a vaccine has a rated statistical efficacy doesn't necessarily mean there will be a percentage of the population that will be infected because it didn't work. No vaccine ever created had a 100% efficacy, and many diseases have been eradicated because of consistent vaccination plans. Polio is the most common case, and the polio vaccine had a 60% efficacy, give or take.

Yet, polio vaccination (along with many other vaccine mass application) has not ended, and has been going on for longer than I've been alive, and nobody is asking "when it will end", yet covid vaccination started less than a year ago, and everybody is whining about it.
Here's a news flash: it's an emergency vaccine, so it's meant to be either approved for regular use or replaced by a better product, once there is one, but the actual vaccination is probably gonna last a long time.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 23, 2021, 06:51:01 PM
You understand that even it's impossible to inoculate every person in the world simultaneously to prevent any variants from originating? Pfizer's vaccine had the highest efficacy at 95%, so even if everyone was vaccinated, there still would be transmission amongst a small portion of the population. It's how upper respiratory viruses work, they are too transmissible.

You also understand that there is data to suggest that the vaccines are not doing well against Omicron, correct? You seem to think the answer to anything Covid related is vaccination despite what the evidence might show.

No, there isn't. The fact that a vaccine has a rated statistical efficacy doesn't necessarily mean there will be a percentage of the population that will be infected because it didn't work. No vaccine ever created had a 100% efficacy, and many diseases have been eradicated because of consistent vaccination plans. Polio is the most common case, and the polio vaccine had a 60% efficacy, give or take.



Right, let me clarify. The remaining 5 percent of a population that does get infected will still maintain some level of viral load, rendering the vaccine ineffective. But given how transmissible Omicron is (140x times original alpha variant), it's reasonable to expect that most everyone will get it unless you are living in the middle of a forest, isolated from human interaction.

I was originally going to mention polio in my above post to illustrate that mass vaccination does in fact work, only in certain instances. Upper respiratory viruses like Covid are too transmissible for it to not end up endemic. Influenza is the same way.

So mass vaccination must only happen with the realistic expectation that the transmission can be controlled, and that's not feasible with Covid. So it's really a useless conversation to have.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 23, 2021, 07:03:11 PM
Gyfts: sorry, you were probably typing your reply when I edited my prior post, so you didn't read the last part.

Vaccination campaigns work, and have proven to do so many times in the past, and yeah, even against upper respiratory infections (tuberculosis rings a bell?). The reason why influenza has not been beat (yet) is because there are actually more than 1000 viruses that cause it, not because of it being an upper respiratory disease, or because of its transmissibility, etc.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 23, 2021, 07:10:05 PM
You understand that even it's impossible to inoculate every person in the world simultaneously to prevent any variants from originating?

Of course. But a more equitable distribution of vaccines, or just selling them cheap to poorer nations, helps to reduce the amount of the virus in circulation, which reduces the number of mutations (variants), which improves things for everyone. This isn't an all-or-nothing situation. If a solution is very-good-but-not-perfect, that doesn't mean you can say 'oh, it's not perfect, therefore do nothing'.



You seem to think the answer to anything Covid related is vaccination

The choice is either get vaccinated or get infected. There's no third option. Vaccination is preferable, as it means fewer deaths. Do you think that everyone should catch the virus, instead? Are you against the Covid vaccine specifically, or the concept in general? Do you think for example that the smallpox vaccine was a bad idea? Being 'anti-vaccine' means being 'pro-getting-infected', there's no other option here.



You seem to think the answer to anything Covid related is vaccination despite what the evidence might show.

The evidence for the efficacy of the Covid vaccines is absolutely overwhelming, and building every day. Is the issue that you're somehow unaware of this, or simply that you choose to ignore it?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 24, 2021, 02:47:42 AM
The evidence for the efficacy of the Covid vaccines is absolutely overwhelming, and building every day. Is the issue that you're somehow unaware of this, or simply that you choose to ignore it?

I am pro vaccine, in fact, but not before being pro liberty, meaning it is your choice to take the vaccine, and no one else's. And everyone makes the risk calculation differently (ie healthy 18 year old v. 70 year old with obesity). And I recognize that a vaccine must be presented in conjugation with other therapeutics because vaccination is not a catch all solution. Also the discussion about how mRNA vaccines may have potential side effects, which must be considered.

Then comes the discussion of variants, and the need for capturing data before recommending vaccination against variants, when the vaccine may not even bode well.

The strategy against Covid must be modified the moment it was evident that Covid would become endemic because vaccination would no longer end Covid, that ship has sailed. It's impossible for the vaccines to attack every possible variant, so the need for newly purposed vaccines that address variants will be required, just as is with the influenza vaccine (a new Covid shot every year, essentially).

So, that highlights the importance for alternative therapeutics for when someone actually gets Covid. Being pro alternative therapy is not being anti-vax, it's being pro medical science.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 24, 2021, 07:54:51 AM
I am pro vaccine, in fact, but not before being pro liberty, meaning it is your choice to take the vaccine, and no one else's. And everyone makes the risk calculation differently (ie healthy 18 year old v. 70 year old with obesity).

This is not a liberty issue. Individuals live within a society. The primary purpose of vaccination is to protect the society. Protecting the individual is secondary. A healthy 18yo chooses not to take the vaccine, contracts the virus, spreads it around the care home where he works with vulnerable people who for medical reasons can't take the vaccine, and he kills them.

When you drive a car, do you always drive on the same side of the road? Why? Why not vary it a bit, drive on the right one day and on the left the next day? It's your individual freedom to do so, isn't it? Your car, your rules. Does it matter that you share the roads with other drivers? And why stick to a speed limit, when your car can do 150 easily? And why not drive when you're drunk? Should people who live within a society consider only the risk to themselves, or also consider the risk to others within the society?



Being pro alternative therapy is not being anti-vax, it's being pro medical science.

Being pro-medical science means being pro-vaccine. The vaccines have been proven to be both safe and effective. Yes, some antiviral Covid products are now becoming available, but this is about treating symptoms. If you want to stop people catching it in the first place, and reduce the possibility of new mutations arising, then the only option is vaccination.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 24, 2021, 08:52:45 AM
...
The choice is either get vaccinated or get infected. There's no third option. Vaccination is preferable, as it means fewer deaths. Do you think that everyone should catch the virus, instead? Are you against the Covid vaccine specifically, or the concept in general? Do you think for example that the smallpox vaccine was a bad idea? Being 'anti-vaccine' means being 'pro-getting-infected', there's no other option here.
...

For bullshit 'diseases' like mumps, chickenpox, cold/sars-cov-2, etc I am certainly 'pro-getting-infected', and I practice what I preach.  All I ask is for freedom of choice.  The 'risk' to Tony Fausti of MY kid getting sick/damaged/dead/life-long-pharma-customer is zero because if they did, it's more of a feature than a bug.  The same risk is very high to me.  Ergo, I make better risk/reward calculations for myself and my family than does corp/gov.

My choices are simply not as beneficial the eugenicists who own and run corp/gov.  'corp/gov' is known to the 'woke' crowd of 'socialists' as 'society' due to state-run educational institutions and other forms of programming.

The above attitude about most so-called 'vaccines' said, even I am 'pro-vaccine' in the case of smallpox and tuberculosis which are high-mortality and high-morbidity respectively.  e.g., a 'high risk'.

The catch is that I only trust the very old technology where one actually gets an infection rather than the newer (1940's-ish plus) technology where they try to cheat with adjuvants and cause all kinds of autoimmunity and generally fuck up the entire immune system for way to many people.  For life.  The brand new gene therapy techniques seem to have the worst of both worlds.  They don't even work in sub-toxic levels and don't create immunity making the whole 'herd immunity' argument moot (for anyone who can understand even the most basic of science.)

I got my kid BCG vaccine for TB.  It puts a giant bruise on one's ass for a year, but when one is a baby, who cares?

I'd get my kid smallpox because this disease is one of the options that Bill Gates has for "the next one" and he seems pretty excited about it, but only if I could get Dryvax vintage administered via scarification.  This is probably what I got back in the 1960's.  I KNOW it works because I didn't get smallpox.  [BTW, for you scientifically illiterate people, this is a joke.]

Alas, these 'old' technologies which probably actually did/do contribute the the eradication of disease (to extinction in the case of smallpox), and quite possibly the empowerment of the pleb classes in a variety of ways, are simply not available any more.  Gee, I wonder why...



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 24, 2021, 11:56:25 AM


The most pro vaccination scientist explains why covid jabs are death shots.
https://rumble.com/vlvhy5-best-explanation-ive-seen-about-why-the-covid-jabs-are-killer-shots.html


https://i.ibb.co/5h0rLQc/Untitled1.jpg (https://ibb.co/QvgPMWm)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 24, 2021, 12:54:08 PM
For bullshit 'diseases' like mumps, chickenpox, cold/sars-cov-2, etc I am certainly 'pro-getting-infected', and I practice what I preach.  All I ask is for freedom of choice.  The 'risk' to Tony Fausti of MY kid getting sick/damaged/dead/life-long-pharma-customer is zero because if they did, it's more of a feature than a bug.  The same risk is very high to me.  Ergo, I make better risk/reward calculations for myself and my family than does corp/gov.


Ok, cnut237 was way too nice in his post. I'm not.
So let me rephrase it for you: the choice is, either you get vaccinated and you live with the rest of us, you get counterfeit paperwork and take your chances to spend some time in prison, or don't get vaccinated and move to a ghetto with other anti vaxxers, so you can all die in peace. Sounds good enough?
After all, you're all pro-choice, and so am I. That way, you have the choice to decide whether to smarten up or keep up the bullshit, and society has the choice to decide whether to allow you to infect others.

That sounds about right?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on December 24, 2021, 01:17:22 PM


So let me rephrase it for you: the choice is, either you get vaccinated and you live with the rest of us, you get counterfeit paperwork and take your chances to spend some time in prison, or don't get vaccinated and move to a ghetto with other anti vaxxers, so you can all die in peace.


Can you just reread what you just said hear and think about this for a minute. Is this the society that you really want to live in? Or do you want to risk rebellion for a better society like your ancestors did?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mqCx2eYJpQ

History repeats itself.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 24, 2021, 02:17:01 PM


So let me rephrase it for you: the choice is, either you get vaccinated and you live with the rest of us, you get counterfeit paperwork and take your chances to spend some time in prison, or don't get vaccinated and move to a ghetto with other anti vaxxers, so you can all die in peace.


Can you just reread what you just said hear and think about this for a minute. Is this the society that you really want to live in? Or do you want to risk rebellion for a better society like your ancestors did?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mqCx2eYJpQ

History repeats itself.

Let me put it this way: if my options are to live in this society or to die in tvconf's, this is DEFINITELY the one I choose.
Our ancestors had plenty of REAL issues to rebel against. I'm getting mighty sick of youtube "revolutionaries" and instagram "heroes". Our ancestors were willing to die for their ideals (and many did), but they were not willing to get other people killed.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 24, 2021, 04:49:00 PM
For bullshit 'diseases' like mumps, chickenpox, cold/sars-cov-2, etc I am certainly 'pro-getting-infected', and I practice what I preach.  All I ask is for freedom of choice.  The 'risk' to Tony Fausti of MY kid getting sick/damaged/dead/life-long-pharma-customer is zero because if they did, it's more of a feature than a bug.  The same risk is very high to me.  Ergo, I make better risk/reward calculations for myself and my family than does corp/gov.


Ok, cnut237 was way too nice in his post. I'm not.
So let me rephrase it for you: the choice is, either you get vaccinated and you live with the rest of us, you get counterfeit paperwork and take your chances to spend some time in prison, or don't get vaccinated and move to a ghetto with other anti vaxxers, so you can all die in peace. Sounds good enough?
After all, you're all pro-choice, and so am I. That way, you have the choice to decide whether to smarten up or keep up the bullshit, and society has the choice to decide whether to allow you to infect others.

That sounds about right?

Yup, sounds right.  Just as the psychology professor (https://www.bitchute.com/video/lE87SuVJJAiL/) who's lecture I linked said, these 'mass formation psychosis' events always degrade into atrocities.  It happened in the Bolshevik Revolution, Mao's thing in China, Hitler's thing in Germany, and it will happen with Schwab's (bosses) Great Reset thing here if the designers can pull it off (which is likely).

Here's the deal.  You are either a simpleton if who's fallen for the scamdemic, or in a tiny fraction who are on-board with mass democide and are 'lying for your truth' or whatever.

If the former is the case (likely), just note that each one of 'us' could take out about 1000 of 'you' if push came to shove.  That's simply illustrative of the power of knowledge, understanding, planning, etc.  We just don't want push to come to shove because it's not the kind of people we tend to be.  Push us at your own risk however, and note that while you outnumber us by a significant margin, it is not near where it needs to be to overcome our advantages.

We tend to not be on-board with the mass democide in part because the whole 'climate change' bullshit is about as idiotic and transparent as the plandemic.  We don't need to do people like that, and we are competitive in an environment of today where there are, arguably, 'too many people.'

If you are in a category where you do understand that this is a democide and are active at the planning level, you are on-par with us at the intellectual/ability scales, but you specifically are very very unlikely to be just based on your input here on this board (both existence and quality.)  Much more likely you would be in the category of a mindless drone of the Fausti's, Gates's, Schwab's', etc of this operation.  In that case we need do nothing.  Your leaders will take care of your type for us when your usefulness to them has expired.  And they'll enjoy every minute of doing so.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 24, 2021, 04:57:36 PM
It should never have been allowed to start because because cure and "vaccine" was always available, but intentionally not used.
Fauci and his gang responsible for millions of deaths. Two years in, people still advocate for mass murder.
https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/
https://granitegrok.com/blog/2020/05/2005-nih-journal-chloroquine-is-a-potent-inhibitor-of-sars-coronavirus-infection-and-spread
Emergency use authorization can not be granted with a known, cheap, ready available alternative, every single health minister how granted it, guilty.
https://i.ibb.co/dc0dzf9/Untitled1.jpg (https://ibb.co/z5hy0mc)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 27, 2021, 02:33:01 PM

Yup, sounds right.  Just as the psychology professor (https://www.bitchute.com/video/lE87SuVJJAiL/) who's lecture I linked said, these 'mass formation psychosis' events always degrade into atrocities.  It happened in the Bolshevik Revolution, Mao's thing in China, Hitler's thing in Germany, and it will happen with Schwab's (bosses) Great Reset thing here if the designers can pull it off (which is likely).

Here's the deal.  You are either a simpleton if who's fallen for the scamdemic, or in a tiny fraction who are on-board with mass democide and are 'lying for your truth' or whatever.


See?
Great! So you can CHOOSE to go live happily among your genius friends, and leave us simpletons alone. A win-win, if I've ever seen one.

What I don't understand though, is why you're still moaning about it. You should be happy to have an opportunity to leave this society you despise so much...


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 27, 2021, 03:48:22 PM

Yup, sounds right.  Just as the psychology professor (https://www.bitchute.com/video/lE87SuVJJAiL/) who's lecture I linked said, these 'mass formation psychosis' events always degrade into atrocities.  It happened in the Bolshevik Revolution, Mao's thing in China, Hitler's thing in Germany, and it will happen with Schwab's (bosses) Great Reset thing here if the designers can pull it off (which is likely).

Here's the deal.  You are either a simpleton if who's fallen for the scamdemic, or in a tiny fraction who are on-board with mass democide and are 'lying for your truth' or whatever.

...

See?
Great! So you can CHOOSE to go live happily among your genius friends, and leave us simpletons alone. A win-win, if I've ever seen one.

What I don't understand though, is why you're still moaning about it. You should be happy to have an opportunity to leave this society you despise so much...

Maybe you forgot already, but you are the guy who favors gene therapy to be forced into other people's bodies and threatening fatal assaults such as forced relocations into concentrations zones against people who resist.

Your problem is that if you just leave everyone alone you won't get what you, for whatever reason, want.  People will go on with their business living, transacting, etc, as though nothing happened (because basically nothing but the seasonal common cold actually did happen.)  You neurotic freaks will be the only ones effected and it's all in your minds.  Ergo YOU need corp/gov to marshal jack-boot thugs in order to get what you want.

The question still remains as to whether you personally are one of the countless ignorant pawns thrown into the game to sacrifice your bodies, or whether you actually do see the game and imagine some benefit for yourself, or Mother Gaia, or whatever gutter garbage fills your brain.  It's kind of a 'who cares?' thing though.  History shows in living color that either type of fascist boot-lickers are a major factor in causing huge grief for human populations.  The silver lining is that a whole cadre of 'your type' will be eating the big one no matter which way things go, and that's an all around good thing.

From my perspective as a rich guy who doesn't need to work, avoiding the depop shot is not a big deal.  So far.  And I have a LOT of ammo to up the game if need be.  Again, I hope it doesn't come to that because it will be ugly, messy, dangerous, and not what I want to be doing with my life.  But whatever happens happens, and I always prepare for the worst.  I feel badly for the people who are not wealthy and are being given the choice of getting Gate's gene therapy injected or watching their family starve.  You know; the very thing you are fervently advocating for more of.

If there is a God, I thank Him for doing me a solid by not making me like you.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 28, 2021, 11:38:32 AM
To date only 34337 died in Europe from the vaccine and over 3 million injured, no need to end it just now. At this rate it will take a long time for:
Quote
Bill Gates: If We Do A Really Great Job On New Vaccines, We Could Reduce The Human Population By 15%
https://www.bitchute.com/video/dKIfUZZ3Sn1Q/

US maybe a bit more successful 400 000? or even 820,000 but still long way of target (15 percent of 333,749,517 = 50,062,427)
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-27-study-400000-people-america-died-covid-vaccines.html

https://i.ibb.co/7SbJPfm/Unt.jpg (https://ibb.co/VL3WR14)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on December 28, 2021, 01:47:48 PM
And there you have it! First you run your mouth, talking all kinds of shit about  "us simpletons" who choose to use our brains for a change, and then, when somebody calls you up on it, you try to back up and save face at the same time, God forbid somebody might figure you're full of shit. Pitiful, really.


Maybe you forgot already, but you are the guy who favors gene therapy to be forced into other people's bodies and threatening fatal assaults such as forced relocations into concentrations zones against people who resist.

Your problem is that if you just leave everyone alone you won't get what you, for whatever reason, want.  People will go on with their business living, transacting, etc, as though nothing happened (because basically nothing but the seasonal common cold actually did happen.)  You neurotic freaks will be the only ones effected and it's all in your minds.  Ergo YOU need corp/gov to marshal jack-boot thugs in order to get what you want.

If there is a God, I thank Him for doing me a solid by not making me like you.

Maybe I did. Can you be nice enough and show me when did I EVER mention gene therapy, either in favor or against?

I'll wait.

Just so you know, my problem (at least in your kind's opinion) is I DON'T TALK ABOUT THINGS I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. You should try it.

Again, being you have such a problem with me and everybody like me, you now have a golden opportunity to MAN UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE.

Again, why do you care so much about me? I'm only one guy among 8 billion.
You have a crush?
Just for the record, I like women, and even among them I EXCLUSIVELY like those with a brain between their ears, so you're  0 for 2. Sorry.   
So, once again, stop making excuses and trying to change the subject, and GET THE FUCK OUT.
Stop talking like a man, and start acting like one.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on December 28, 2021, 06:25:58 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/world/middleeast/israel-vaccine-4th-dose.html

It's interesting to see Israel to explore even more boosters, which even the health experts are saying it's too much as the NYT admits.

The goal needs to be clear -- is stopping transmission the the goal, or is stopping hospitalization/death the goal? For some, the goal is endemic governmental control because the risk calculation pertaining to Covid is incomputable, so they need government to step in and tell them how to live their life. Vaccines won't do much anymore in stopping someone from getting an infection. The prevalence of variants with higher transmissibility make this impossible. You cannot simply introduce some number of boosters every time a new variant begins to propagate. It doesn't work, it's not practicable. Therefore, the goal should shift from "zero Covid" to "zero hospitalization/death". Though, zero hospitalization/death this possible either, but the number can get fairly low with the introduction of new therapeutics. Israel will probably ignore all of this.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: bitserve on December 29, 2021, 04:27:12 PM
To date only 31337 died in Europe from the vaccine and over 3 million injured, no need to end it just now.

FTFY!


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gosgosking on December 31, 2021, 11:43:32 AM
Time will tell, as for now their is not idea. Like this time their new cases of the covid-19 that is occurring daily . So the vaccination is still going as to help in preventing and treating this deadly disease.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on December 31, 2021, 11:53:11 AM
Time will tell, as for now their is not idea. Like this time their new cases of the covid-19 that is occurring daily . So the vaccination is still going as to help in preventing and treating this deadly disease.
Hang on, you say what?
Ah i see vaccination not finished some work to be done.


https://i.ibb.co/7VPCM5M/Untitled-1.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: af_newbie on December 31, 2021, 12:53:38 PM
It is like asking when will medications end?

Vaccinations will be available for as long as the human species is alive and well.

After humans become extinct, other organisms will take over the reins and become apex predators.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 31, 2021, 01:45:18 PM
The goal needs to be clear -- is stopping transmission the the goal, or is stopping hospitalization/death the goal? For some, the goal is endemic governmental control because the risk calculation pertaining to Covid is incomputable, so they need government to step in and tell them how to live their life. Vaccines won't do much anymore in stopping someone from getting an infection. The prevalence of variants with higher transmissibility make this impossible. You cannot simply introduce some number of boosters every time a new variant begins to propagate. It doesn't work, it's not practicable. Therefore, the goal should shift from "zero Covid" to "zero hospitalization/death". Though, zero hospitalization/death this possible either, but the number can get fairly low with the introduction of new therapeutics. Israel will probably ignore all of this.

The goal has to be zero (or very low) hospitalisation or death. I think the issue is that from the start, a worryingly high proportion of people who contracted the virus then went on to develop severe symptoms... so the only way to get zero deaths was to have zero cases. However, with omicron, yes, it does appear that symptoms are much milder (on average) and the variant is much more transmissible.

It would appear that letting anti-vaxxers contract omicron will lead to fewer deaths than letting them catch the original strain, and will help to build immunity within the population, so might be a reasonable strategy.

And yes this thing will not go away, it's too embedded now around the world, and new variants will continue to arise. And we are reaching the point where it's no longer a novel virus, in which case the threat of severe symptoms lessens.

However, the threat will still be there even if to a lesser extent. As everyone anticipated, it will become something like flu, and will be managed in the same way.

It certainly doesn't mean that vaccines will no longer be any use, there will still be a strong case for annual boosters, at least for more vulnerable people. But the need for lockdowns and masks may be coming to an end, and the need to avoid catching it, once everyone has either been fully vaccinated or has had omicron, becomes less relevant.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on December 31, 2021, 04:21:42 PM
Face it, we are under a big pharma subscription plan where pills that must be refilled once a month, we now have vaccines that must be taken once a year, once every 6 months, once a month (coming soon?). At best case, big pharma just wants to make a buck off you that choose to submit to their regiments. Is this to cure me you might ask? The answer to that is no this is just to "treat" you so big phrama and the medical industrial complex can bilk as much money from you. At worst case, (I believe both cases are valid together) this is just another experiment to see what you'll put up with in addition to being test subjects to this vaccine. The vaccine is both a test of how the elite can live forever through gene treatment and how to cull the masses using the treatment (easier).  Overall, my answer is it never ends until enough of us say "no" loudly about it.

CNN's
@kaitlancollins: "It sounds like this decision had just as much to do with business as it did the science."

@CDCDirector
 Dr. Rochelle Walensky: "It really had a lot to do with what we thought people would be able to tolerate."

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1476181419063971840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1476181419063971840%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on December 31, 2021, 05:44:26 PM
Maybe I did. Can you be nice enough and show me when did I EVER mention gene therapy, either in favor or against?

I'll wait.

Just so you know, my problem (at least in your kind's opinion) is I DON'T TALK ABOUT THINGS I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. You should try it.

You talk about experimental gene therapy and forcing everyone to be a test subject for it every time you open your mouth but are too ignorant to realize it.  Go back to before the plandemic before the marketing people informed the scientists that it would be better to use different terminology for PR reasons and you'll find Moderna crowing about their method of re-programming cellular machinery by inserting genes and calling it gene therapy quite proudly.

Again, being you have such a problem with me and everybody like me, you now have a golden opportunity to MAN UP AND GET THE HELL OUT OF DODGE.

I actually did.  I set 1/1/2020 as the date to be hunkered down off-shore because I could tell that something was afoot, and I achieved that objective.  I even walked away from what's probably a million dollar estate and 4 years of hard work building the rural place of my dreams.  I can assure you that it wasn't ankle-biter twats like you that I was concerned about though.

Again, why do you care so much about me? I'm only one guy among 8 billion.
You have a crush?
Just for the record, I like women, and even among them I EXCLUSIVELY like those with a brain between their ears, so you're  0 for 2. Sorry.   
So, once again, stop making excuses and trying to change the subject, and GET THE FUCK OUT.
Stop talking like a man, and start acting like one.

Wow.  Pretty juvi for someone who claims to have been around for 50+ years.  That answers the question about whether you are just a believing minion or someone who understands things at a somewhat deeper level.  Clearly you are one of the several billion gulped down the kool-aid without a second thought.  Have a nice death.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on January 01, 2022, 08:23:15 AM
Face it, we are under a big pharma subscription plan where pills that must be refilled once a month, we now have vaccines that must be taken once a year, once every 6 months, once a month (coming soon?). At best case, big pharma just wants to make a buck off you that choose to submit to their regiments.

Seems unlikely. Soon, most people (in developed countries) will have been either fully vaccinated, or have some immunity from contracting the milder but more transmissible omicron variant. This is ceasing to be a novel virus, as immunity builds within the population. As Gyfts mentioned above, the goal should be zero (or very low) cases of hospitalisation or death. At the start, with no immunity and a relatively high chance of severe symptoms for those who got infected, the focus was on ensuring zero (or very low) cases. There is now starting to be a separation of cases and deaths. Soon, Covid-19 should be able to be managed in the same way as something like flu. Which probably means annual boosters for the most vulnerable people, but everyone else can catch it with very low chance of severe symptoms. So no more lockdowns, masks, general vaccination drives, etc.

I don't see the 'big pharma' side that you see, but this is probably because I'm from a country where healthcare is free, and the major vaccine provider (AZ) is supplying vaccines at cost, with no profit motive. But I do appreciate that people in any industry will try to make money where they can... and my attitude to veterinarians (pet healthcare is not free here, and a $2 antibiotic will cost ~$100 if supplied by a vet) is somewhat similar to your attitude to medicine. But this means that some people see the pandemic as a means to exploit the public and make a profit, it doesn't mean they have orchestrated the whole thing.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 01, 2022, 09:03:06 AM
......... I'm from a country where healthcare is free, ..........

Ah that must be mystical free energy country some people keep speaking about. At my place there is no such thing as a free lunch.
The idea of creating something out of nothing is encompassed by endites like gnomes, goblins,  talking animals, trolls, unicorn, idiots, elves...




Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 01, 2022, 10:16:33 AM
The goal has to be zero (or very low) hospitalisation or death.

Well, good luck with zero hospitalization or death because it's not happening and it's unrealistic. Covid is as controlled as it's ever going to be, and it's mostly older people without any natural immunity, vaccinations, or already unhealthy that are dying at this point. Most civil societies can continue on, as they must. The virus will mutate "down" in lethality even further after omicron, so it's over. Meanwhile, if you're keen on stopping death, start with obesity, heart disease, diabetes, smoking, and drug addiction because they're more deadly to society than Covid.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on January 01, 2022, 11:35:28 AM
......... I'm from a country where healthcare is free, ..........
Ah that must be mystical free energy country some people keep speaking about. At my place there is no such thing as a free lunch.
The idea of creating something out of nothing is encompassed by endites like gnomes, goblins,  talking animals, trolls, unicorn, idiots, elves...

Free at the point of delivery. For most people this is quite obvious, but some people need everything to be spelled out for them.

trolls [...] idiots






The goal has to be zero (or very low) hospitalisation or death.
Well, good luck with zero hospitalization or death because it's not happening and it's unrealistic. Covid is as controlled as it's ever going to be, and it's mostly older people without any natural immunity, vaccinations, or already unhealthy that are dying at this point. Most civil societies can continue on, as they must. The virus will mutate "down" in lethality even further after omicron, so it's over.

You manage to disagree even when I'm agreeing with you, which is quite an achievement. Of course zero is unattainable, hence my comment in parentheses. In practice, "very low" is the aim. Covid is not yet "as controlled as it's ever going to be", although this statement might be true fairly soon once omicron has worked its way through the population. And even in developing, low-vaccination nations such as South Africa, the immunity conferred by omicron will help against future waves. Yes, it appears we are nearing (but not yet at) the end.



Meanwhile, if you're keen on stopping death, start with obesity, heart disease, diabetes, smoking, and drug addiction because they're more deadly to society than Covid.

"People die from A, therefore we shouldn't treat B" isn't a great argument. Besides, the last year has shown that Covid deaths can largely be prevented with cheap vaccines. If you can save millions of lives, then why not do so?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 01, 2022, 11:43:42 AM
..............
Covid deaths can largely be prevented with cheap vaccines. .............

You must be the one paying for the "cheap"  (or free as u claim) hundred dollar shots for the millions of people who earn less than a dollar a day.
It ain't me that much is certain.
Maybe your country has priorities wrong way round.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 01, 2022, 12:13:14 PM
..............
Covid deaths can largely be prevented with cheap vaccines. .............

You must be the one paying for the "cheap"  (or free as u claim) hundred dollar shots for the millions of people who earn less than a dollar a day.
It ain't me that much is certain.
Maybe your country has priorities wrong way round.

If, by definition, vaccines are 'safe' and never cause any problem, and all problems start out by ruling out vaccination/injection as a possible contributing factor, then the economic costs are minimal and they are 'cheap'.  On (cooked) paper.

As the covaids scamdemic has made crystal clear, this happy economic situation can be maintained rather easily.  You just need to make it clear to the entire medical industry that it is off-limits to upset the apple-cart and they need to studiously avoid treading on vaccine dogma when practicing medicine at grave risks to their careers.  Only a tiny minority of doctors/nurses/researchers have the ethical will resist, and when they are purged it will be smooth sailing.

Doctors clearly sided with Big Pharma and against the people in massive numbers.  It remains to be seen if this ultimately turns out to be a good decision.  I'll bet it will not because they swing whether their 'friends' at Big Pharma win (they'll be used as the scapegoats) or whether the peeps come out on top and they are culpable for the punishment they richly deserve for their malfeasance.  I wouldn't want to be a doctor (or nurse or scientists or hospital administrator) right now, and if I was, I would be bowing out of the industry (and documenting why) and looking to flip burgers for a while to make ends meet.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 01, 2022, 01:08:17 PM

You manage to disagree even when I'm agreeing with you, which is quite an achievement. Of course zero is unattainable, hence my comment in parentheses. In practice, "very low" is the aim. Covid is not yet "as controlled as it's ever going to be", although this statement might be true fairly soon once omicron has worked its way through the population. And even in developing, low-vaccination nations such as South Africa, the immunity conferred by omicron will help against future waves. Yes, it appears we are nearing (but not yet at) the end.

I don't think my definition of "low Covid" is at all consistent with your definition of "low Covid" at all. I don't care if people die from Covid, because people die every day from things out of their control. It only becomes a problem when many people are dying from Covid and there is no way to manage, or when Covid death rates are out of control.

We can manage Covid, we have therapuetics. So from a public health standpoint, Covid is over. No need for mandates, government interference, or any such aggressive enforcement tactics seen all over the world in Australia, Austria, Germany, France, (need I go on).

But government won't let this go, they love having power.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 02, 2022, 12:13:42 PM
But government won't let this go, they love having power.

Kind of hard to just let it go when "they" are also responsible for hospitals, and supply chains, and roads and a million other things that pretty much everyone else takes for granted.  Hospitals are 20-30% more full in major metro areas right now because of covid patients, mostly unvaccinated.  Might not seem like a big deal, but consistently having 70%+ of your ICU beds unavailable poses serious risks to the entire population.  There's a very good chance many of them are at capacity in the next few weeks, which is a very bad situation.  They're expanding as fast as they can, but they also don't have the staff because there just literally aren't enough trained people to do the jobs.

And then there's the smaller hospitals with much higher unvaccinated populations that are getting clobbered or could be any time now.  

Would take a special kind of stupid to just "let this go". Of course, we'd be much closer to putting this all behind us if it weren't for the same special kind of stupid that's making everyone throw tantrums about having to keep their nose and mouth covered when close to other people or get another vaccine just like anyone that went to public school, or college, or pretty much any doctor as a child.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 02, 2022, 12:22:41 PM
Getting our airbags the first time makes sure the second time will work when you buy your third one. But to get extra protection, the fourth airbag you buy that didn’t work the first few times will make sure that your fifth booster bag works. Always use airbags to protect other drivers on the road.

https://i.ibb.co/JQnrNcY/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/tJgRNJB/2022-01-01-114301-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/bWPN11y/2021-12-22-143828-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 02, 2022, 12:29:38 PM

Getting our airbags the first time makes sure the second time will work when you buy your third one. But to get extra protection, the fourth airbag you buy that didn’t work the first few times will make sure that your fifth booster bag works. Always use airbags to protect other drivers on the road.

https://i.ibb.co/JQnrNcY/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Wipe your ass after you take your first shit.  But don't let them make you wipe your ass after the second.  Because you know a third shit is coming the next morning and Big TP is gonna try and get you to wipe your ass after that one.  Before you know it you're gonna be wiping your ass every day like it's normal, putting micro chips up your butthole to help power the 5g towers so Bill Gates can farm your dna, all while lining the pockets of Big TP like the sheep you were meant to be.

If they don't want my ass to be all shitty and nasty they better stop telling me to wipe it!  Freedom!



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on January 02, 2022, 07:02:11 PM
special kind of stupid that's making everyone throw tantrums about having to keep their nose and mouth covered when close to other people or get another vaccine

The thing that gets me is that the people who are complaining about having to wear masks and comply with social distancing... are the exact same people who are causing lockdowns and a need for masks and a need for social distancing because their unwillingness to take the vaccine is keeping the virus in circulation. Why complain about something that you yourself are causing? It's crazy. 


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 02, 2022, 07:37:14 PM
special kind of stupid that's making everyone throw tantrums about having to keep their nose and mouth covered when close to other people or get another vaccine

The thing that gets me is that the people who are complaining about having to wear masks and comply with social distancing... are the exact same people who are causing lockdowns and a need for masks and a need for social distancing because their unwillingness to take the vaccine is keeping the virus in circulation. Why complain about something that you yourself are causing? It's crazy. 

Each of these things are being caused exclusively by malfeasant bureaucrats and those non-government entities directing them.  They care about one thing only: getting needles into arms.  Why, exactly, that is of such utmost importance to them is not fully understood at this time, but it is plainly evident that it has nothing to do with keeping the victims healthy.

We all knew that one of the designs of this operation would be to use the 'vaxxed' to apply pressure against their fellow citizens who are looking at things with more scientific rigor and not liking what we see.  Your reaction is exactly as we anticipated.  What we didn't know would be the ratios of minions who could be utilized and how violent they can be made.  We still don't.

I must say, we really do have all of the makings for an almost literal 'zombie apocalypse'.  This especially due to the observable clotting and bleeding issues suffered by many of those who've had their genes modified such that their organs and tissues become spike protein factories.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 03, 2022, 07:48:11 AM
They care about one thing only: getting needles into arms.  Why, exactly, that is of such utmost importance to them is not fully understood at this time

It's because there's a vaccine in the needle.  Vaccine = less likely to get very sick = less likely to take up bed in hospital = hospital less likely to run out of beds, supply chains less likely to have issues, people more likely to be able to do their jobs = economic recovery, stability, growth, etc.

If it weren't for the people that spread vaccine misinformation and the people gullible enough to believe these absurd reasons not to get themselves vaccinated, the death count would be lower, the hospitals would be less full, there would be fewer restrictions , the economy would be in better shape, and Americans would look a hell of a lot less retarded.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 03, 2022, 08:28:09 AM
They care about one thing only: getting needles into arms.  Why, exactly, that is of such utmost importance to them is not fully understood at this time

It's because there's a vaccine in the needle.  Vaccine = less likely to get very sick = less likely to take up bed in hospital = hospital less likely to run out of beds, supply chains less likely to have issues, people more likely to be able to do their jobs = economic recovery, stability, growth, etc.

...

Congratulations.  You get an A+ for 'life-long-learning' in the state accredited industrial 'education' system.

Have a nice death...and enjoy the extra tokens you will be awarded to spend in the 'metaverse' after that event.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 03, 2022, 08:29:41 AM
Nobel prize nominee and inventor of mRNA vaccine technology Dr. Roert Malone (2 min snip)
People have all kinds of degrees (some bought) but thinking they can not.
https://rumble.com/vrpz5w-dr.-robert-malone-issues-profound-response-to-big-tech-banning-him-on-joe-r.html


So said another one gone, not even time to wear his new shoes.
https://i.ibb.co/g7vW1FM/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)  https://i.ibb.co/K2tN4v6/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/PFYKD6T/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Rockstarguy on January 03, 2022, 10:29:41 AM
This disease is a strong one and very deadly the outbreak is increasing daily , the solution to it at this point is to take the vaccine.  If the vaccine is being looked down, the disease may increase more which it will be so difficult to handle. Now that the rate of this disease has not become something serious,  it will be best to take the vaccination serious because for now it is the only hope we have. We need to prevent it from getting worst out of hand.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Cnut237 on January 03, 2022, 11:05:34 AM
We all knew that one of the designs of this operation would be to use the 'vaxxed' to apply pressure against their fellow citizens who are looking at things with more scientific rigor and not liking what we see.  Your reaction is exactly as we anticipated.  What we didn't know would be the ratios of minions who could be utilized and how violent they can be made.  We still don't.

You may find that the threats and violence come from the anti-vaxxers, rather than those who favour rational thought. I would say that the kind of person to watch out for might be someone who views being asked to wear a mask during a respiratory pandemic as an outrageous imposition on their civil liberties. Certain people are prone to hysteria, and very susceptible to concocted outrage. I would suggest there is also some overlap with those slavering zealots whom Trump so easily weaponised in his abortive coup attempt.

https://i.imgur.com/GDHxFHb.jpg
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02741-x


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 03, 2022, 11:49:43 AM
We all knew that one of the designs of this operation would be to use the 'vaxxed' to apply pressure against their fellow citizens who are looking at things with more scientific rigor and not liking what we see.  Your reaction is exactly as we anticipated.  What we didn't know would be the ratios of minions who could be utilized and how violent they can be made.  We still don't.

You may find that the threats and violence come from the anti-vaxxers, rather than those who favour rational thought.

Most of us are capable of high levels of violence if backed into a corner.  If a corporation with billions of dollars in judgments for falsifying safety data and lying comes at us with a forced experimental gene therapy, for sure it will be 'backing us into a corner.'  If said company and their allies in the corp/gov space use people like yourself as blunt-force instruments (thugs, leg-breakers, etc) to achieve their objectives, you can expect to feel the negative consequences in relation to your effectiveness.

From the get-go, 'our type' were vocal and fine about people doing what they want vis-a-vis the experimental injections.  All we ever did is offer info, and over and over made it clear that the choice is up to individuals how they are to proceed.  That is diametrically opposed to the kinds of force you guys have been chomping at the bit to apply to others in the name of the 'greater good'.  That attitude of forcing others people to do things in fundamental to 'communitarianism' which is the driving philosophy of your side because it is what your programmers (including the Pfizer's of the world) want.

I would say that the kind of person to watch out for might be someone who views being asked to wear a mask during a respiratory pandemic as an outrageous imposition on their civil liberties. Certain people are prone to hysteria, and very susceptible to concocted outrage.

You obviously would have said the same thing about the star-of-David arm band.

I would suggest there is also some overlap with those slavering zealots whom Trump so easily weaponised in his abortive coup attempt.

Most of the people you are imagining were antifa meth-heads who changed their costume (slightly) for that psy-op.  There were a bunch of genuine Q-tard morons who didn't figure out Trumps game within a short time of his swearing in milling around the grounds.  Those people are no where near the kind of threat that the communitarian creeps (like you) pose.  They might get close if/when another Trump is installed, but probably not since they still tend to be more individualistic on core programming.  I'll worry about them later if/when the pose a threat.

[_img width=600]https://i.imgur.com/GDHxFHb.jpg[/img]
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02741-x


'Nature' is the quintessential programming for your class of pseudo-intellectual 'tards.  Means nothing when they engage in propaganda to foster your 'scientism' education.  Anyone who knows and semi-diversity of people in real life can see how absurd their 'data' is.




Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 03, 2022, 12:11:09 PM
This disease is a strong one and very deadly the outbreak is increasing daily , the solution to it at this point is to take the vaccine.  If the vaccine is being looked down, the disease may increase more which it will be so difficult to handle. Now that the rate of this disease has not become something serious,  it will be best to take the vaccination serious because for now it is the only hope we have. We need to prevent it from getting worst out of hand.

The rockstarguy is a clear example that the "disease" is out of control. Why did he not take the 25th booster shot?

https://i.ibb.co/hxN4j8Q/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 03, 2022, 01:27:17 PM


To the extent Covid has made us all deranged, perhaps the most overlooked phenomenon of Covid is the mass formation psychosis generated out of fear, uncertainty, and anxiety.

See Dr. Malone, Harvard trained medical doctor, explain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJSwigON0k

As explained, an intellectual inquiry made by social scientists as to how it was possible that Nazi Germany would arise from a well educated population comprised of a civil society. How was it possible that a democracy could result in fascism comprising of the systematic extermination of 9 million jews. Surely humans weren't animals in the 1930's, yet we acted like it. Mass formation psychosis was the proposed answer.

It doesn't take much for humans to lose grip on reality, it only takes a bit of fear for emotions to run rampant. How people still fear Covid after 2 years, vaccines, therapeutics, and variants with less virulence is beyond comprehension.  



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: bojosari on January 03, 2022, 03:44:45 PM
this is still a polemic in the eyes of the public. Many think that vaccines are a political benefit for certain parties. We don't really know what happened. Now many countries associate an administration with a vaccine certificate. For example, someone has to pay a lot to buy a ticket. flight because he doesn't have a vaccine certificate. is this a political business? could be yes


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: BernyJB on January 03, 2022, 03:53:37 PM
this is still a polemic in the eyes of the public. Many think that vaccines are a political benefit for certain parties. We don't really know what happened. Now many countries associate an administration with a vaccine certificate. For example, someone has to pay a lot to buy a ticket. flight because he doesn't have a vaccine certificate. is this a political business? could be yes

Only for the ignorant, especially those who politicize everything they know nothing about. Fortunately, life goes on, COVID will be beaten, just like many other diseases were beaten before, and the useful idiots will keep on yakking about something else. 


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 03, 2022, 04:02:55 PM
https://i.ibb.co/9GVscsD/Wine.jpg (https://ibb.co/8Xd6N6C)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: af_newbie on January 03, 2022, 04:43:35 PM
It will end when everyone develops antibodies.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 03, 2022, 05:23:29 PM


It is done and over with in Bosnia. Balkans here we come.
https://bihnews.info/bosnia-become-first-country-in-europe-without-covid-pass-mirnes-ajanovic-defeated-bosnian-federal-government/


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 04, 2022, 08:38:57 PM
They care about one thing only: getting needles into arms.  Why, exactly, that is of such utmost importance to them is not fully understood at this time

It's because there's a vaccine in the needle.  Vaccine = less likely to get very sick = less likely to take up bed in hospital = hospital less likely to run out of beds, supply chains less likely to have issues, people more likely to be able to do their jobs = economic recovery, stability, growth, etc.

...

Congratulations.  You get an A+ for 'life-long-learning' in the state accredited industrial 'education' system.

Have a nice death...and enjoy the extra tokens you will be awarded to spend in the 'metaverse' after that event.



I have to give you credit, if you discredit arguments for being taught in educational institutions (as long as it doesn't support your argument) that have been accredited by some level of government, you're doing a pretty good job of making due with what's left.


comes at us with a forced experimental gene therapy

You've been fooled by someone spreading vaccine misinformation.  Of course, all of this is based on scientists that have been educated and work for some sort of institution that's been accredited by a government, but I'll say it anyway in case there's anyone out there on the fence.

Gene therapy involves altering your DNA, a permanent change.  Vaccines use mRNA to trigger our immune system into recognizing a virus so it can attack it.  The undereducated have decided that because mRNA is used in a vaccine that means it must be gene therapy.  

On top of that, there was a forbes article by a reputable genome specialist with the initial headline "Yes, The Vaccine Changes Your DNA. A Tiny Bit. That’s A Good Thing."  The actual article goes into detail on why vaccines are not gene therapy, but the undereducated obviously just read headlines and used it as proof vaccines are gene therapy, even after the scientist changed the headline and a ton of other experts agreed it was a stupid decision to use the initial headline.

Covid Vaccines Don’t Alter Your DNA – They Help Choose Cells To Strengthen Your Immune Response
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2021/11/29/yes-the-vaccine-changes-your-dna-a-tiny-bit-thats-a-good-thing/?sh=56d0b6972691

Covid-19 Vaccines Can’t Alter Your DNA, Here’s Why
https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2021/01/11/covid-19-vaccines-cant-alter-your-dna-heres-why/?sh=3d2095c24911

The COVID-19 vaccine does not change human DNA
https://www.unicef.org/montenegro/en/stories/covid-19-vaccine-does-not-change-human-dna

Chance That COVID-19 Vaccines Are Gene Therapy? 'Zero'
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210719/covid-19-vaccines-not-gene-therapy

Fact Check-mRNA vaccines are distinct from gene therapy, which alters recipient’s genes
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: CryptoKingh on January 11, 2022, 10:29:16 AM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


I think you don't see news. Obviously, there is a planning going on to vaccinate every single person so that covid will not spread further.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 11, 2022, 02:59:40 PM


Immune-mediated hepatitis with the Moderna vaccine, no longer a coincidence but confirmed.
https://archive.is/dJEBm#selection-1237.0-1237.90


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: majorphones on January 11, 2022, 04:29:55 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


Apparently we are going to have to be vaccinated with thousands of doses, since when a vaccine is done, the virus mutates into a new strain.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Spontaneous on January 11, 2022, 07:29:26 PM
  I wonder in my country that everyone got their full vaccination but still, the case is making higher and now I'm worried again about another quarantine but hoping not again. Last year November 2021, I thought the case will be Zero but sad to say it's getting worst. I've always thought the better day hoping all the variants will vanish to their own. Never stop praying to God and pray all the tragedy will be gone.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 13, 2022, 02:39:17 PM


The sooner the better
2620 BABIES BORN DEAD FROM VACCINATED MOTHERS IN 2021
https://ourtube.co.uk/watch/jdttDQDtbW3afX3


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 14, 2022, 08:27:57 AM
Get a hold of this, Sars-Cov-2 genome Nucleotide sequence patented by Moderna in 2015
https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/status/1481680433536405504?s=20
Vaccination can't end because it never started to begin with.


U.K. SET TO ABANDON COVID PASSES THIS MONTH: TIMES
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1481780466374127617
The scam is done with
https://youtu.be/x2RnDalzCvw

Humor still a good medicine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwaMr24Ojc8


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Ems. on January 16, 2022, 01:53:13 PM
Will end vaccination if ,virus will kill and people will together to fight not just of vaccone we have now,we must alert everywhere we are.Discipline is the most important ,i think without this we cannot solve the virus,it's come more and more active .Also every family should ,discuss and teach everyone how to do when virus comes ,so that the issue for vaccination will end and avoid and stop increasing virus .


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: PreciousH on January 17, 2022, 12:50:31 PM
Since Covid is a global pandemic, I am curious to know if it is in the plan to vaccinate everyone in the world? Do you think it is even possible to vaccinate everyone in the world? If not, why then have they started something they will not finish? Is this not just another way to put a pipe from the countries economy to the pocket of our politicians?


Currently covid 19 is spreading everywhere. I think proper take of vaccination will help people from getting infected. Proper vaccination will help many users to get rid of COVID-19.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: cmg777 on January 18, 2022, 12:30:05 AM
Hopefully, it all ends soon in a good way. The Phizer CEO is now predicting the end of the pandemic in the spring. Is this due to the upcoming elections in US in the fall? Or something sinister as usual down the pipeline?

Pfizer CEO Predicts Life On Earth "Will Return To Normal" In The Spring

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pfizer-ceo-predicts-life-earth-will-return-normal-spring


Meanwhile hope this is true and not some hoax:

https://twitter.com/theysayitsrare/status/1483017272058863617?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1483017272058863617%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 18, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
South Africa on the winning line.
https://i.ibb.co/BtNp5tx/Un.jpg (https://ibb.co/vHYF6HG)

Next round of lockdowns to come.
https://i.ibb.co/hDcQL7h/Un.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: OgNasty on January 18, 2022, 08:35:56 PM
The vaccinations won't end until universal health care is forced on the population and everyone is on a vaccine schedule.  Similarly, the attack on small businesses and property owners won't stop until we're all receiving universal income and own nothing.  I'm told we'll be happy about it though...

The only thing you can do to stop it, is opt out.  Save money.  Say no to debt of any kind.  Limit your liabilities.  Live within your means and as self sufficient as possible (this means getting your own food, water, electricity).  Fight the urge to buy vacation homes and planes.  Instead invest for your future and try to stay healthy.  The government will be trying to force everyone to need them to survive.  The best way to fight it is to be able to survive on your own.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 21, 2022, 07:42:39 PM
The vaccinations won't end until universal health care is forced on the population and everyone is on a vaccine schedule.

This doesn't make any sense.  How would the vaccinations end once everyone is on a vaccine schedule...doesn't that mean they continue?  Or are you saying that once everyone has health care and access to vaccines, eventually there won't be a need for vaccines?


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: OgNasty on January 21, 2022, 08:21:50 PM
The vaccinations won't end until universal health care is forced on the population and everyone is on a vaccine schedule.

How would the vaccinations end once everyone is on a vaccine schedule...doesn't that mean they continue?

Welcome to my point.  I'm glad you were able to connect those dots...

The point, for me to clarify for those who may need help understanding, is that their goal is to have everyone on continued health plans forever where the money is taken out before people even get to see it (not too different from inflation).  They're even printing more money to purposely set off an inflation wave disregarding the wishes of the Federal Reserve (if the Feds are against it, it's gotta be horrific).  Keeping people from working.  Even attempting to take jobs from those who do not support their universal health care (and after that universal income) future.  We can fight it, sure.  Trump reversed a lot of the Obama nonsense.  That only led to this orchestrated pandemic to further their agenda.  Can you imagine what unemployment will be if the vaccine mandate goes through eventually?  Can you imagine the amount of stimulus that will be allowed to happen in that situation?  

Universal health care and universal income are coming...  With that, will be the removal of any trace of natural selection left in our society.  We are moving towards being a species dependent upon science to survive, and to me that means we are doomed.

By all means, get the vaccine though.  It's just a little jab right?  We'll all be dead long before the consequences of these actions are widespread and obvious, but the enslaved generations that follow will likely never forgive us.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 21, 2022, 08:45:56 PM
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I'm thinking they might stop with the booster requirements (maybe). Seeing countries like the UK and Ireland drop a lot of their mandates/restrictions (in fact Ireland recently announced a lift on most of their COVID restrictions today), it would appear all the sane folks are getting over the COVID panic.

New study out of Israel shows a 4th booster shot does not provide much protection despite raising antibody levels to a level at or slightly higher than that of the 3rd dose.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-study-shows-4th-shot-covid-19-vaccine-not-able-block-omicron-2022-01-17/

Only 154 participants, but to my knowledge, one of the few in the world that are experimenting with 4 doses.

Pumping people full of booster shots does not do anything against Omicron, so they're getting the message that the vaccine is no longer a viable strategy to stop COVID. It will be here forever, and there's only getting used to it. Eradication is impossible.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 21, 2022, 08:49:53 PM
We are moving towards being a species dependent upon science to survive, and to me that means we are doomed.

What a crazy take.  As a species, we've basically doubled our life expectancy in the last ~100 years because of...Science - in large part because of vaccines specifically.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 21, 2022, 09:33:29 PM
We are moving towards being a species dependent upon science to survive, and to me that means we are doomed.

What a crazy take.  As a species, we've basically doubled our life expectancy in the last ~100 years because of...Science - in large part because of vaccines specifically.

That's basically because of sanitation, adequate nutrition, and better understandings of how identify and deal with medical problems.

Vaccines are justified in the minds of the designers on the basis that the higher life expectancy figures are leading to a situation where there are to many people and something has to take over vis-a-vis turning people's lights out so that 'overpopulation' doesn't become to big a problem to fast.  The balance is to kill enough people to make them worthwhile but no so many that people notice.  Generally it's best to maim more wealthy people so they live long miserable lives and buy plenty of Pharma products over their extended and painful existence.  That also helps shake wealth out of the middle classes since without being desperately in need of medicines and treatments, the property that people accumulated over a lifetime of work would be more likely to be inherited.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 22, 2022, 07:33:29 AM
We are moving towards being a species dependent upon science to survive, and to me that means we are doomed.

What a crazy take.  As a species, we've basically doubled our life expectancy in the last ~100 years because of...Science - in large part because of vaccines specifically.

Even if true, it's nobody's business how old i want to be. If someone wants to live life on the fast lane so be it.
Time and time again all leads back to the insurance scam do whatever you like because some other idiot will pay for it.
Insurance must be on a individual basis, a deposit held at a independent body/community and taken from the acount when needed.
Life expectancy went up because kids don't die in coal mines anylonger, see sun a bit more and food was good until fast food places arrieved at greater numbers.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 22, 2022, 06:58:41 PM
We are moving towards being a species dependent upon science to survive, and to me that means we are doomed.

What a crazy take.  As a species, we've basically doubled our life expectancy in the last ~100 years because of...Science - in large part because of vaccines specifically.

That's basically because of sanitation, adequate nutrition, and better understandings of how identify and deal with medical problems/

All based in science.

Vaccines are justified in the minds of the designers on the basis that...
The virus that was killing thousands or millions of people isn't anymore.

That's how vaccines are justified.

Even if true, it's nobody's business how old i want to be. If someone wants to live life on the fast lane so be it.
And luckily for you, your chances of living to be old enough to make the decision to live in the fast lane were much greater since you didn't have to worry about polio, hepatitis A or B, Diphtheria, Measles, Mumps, and a bunch of other viruses that babies and children were regularly dying from until a vaccine was developed.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: tvbcof on January 22, 2022, 07:20:20 PM

Vaccines are justified in the minds of the designers on the basis that...

The virus that was killing thousands or millions of people isn't anymore.

That's how vaccines are justified.

Well, that's the myth sold to the ignorant sheeple who cannot or will not think but rather just regurgitate what they were taught in government sponsored schools as 'the science'.



Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 22, 2022, 07:21:36 PM
And luckily for you, your chances of living to be old enough to make the decision to live in the fast lane were much greater since you didn't have to worry about polio, hepatitis A or B, Diphtheria, Measles, Mumps, and a bunch of other viruses that babies and children were regularly dying from until a vaccine was developed.

And it's a great thing COVID-19 isn't like any of the diseases you just mentioned. Babies and children aren't dying from COVID-19 like they might have those other diseases, and the vaccines do not work against transmission anymore. Why are you under the belief that vaccination is the end to COVID-19 when there is no evidence the vaccines are effective at stopping transmission anymore? And this is including people that are boosted with a 3rd and even 4th shot.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: TwitchySeal on January 22, 2022, 11:05:46 PM
And it's a great thing COVID-19 isn't like any of the diseases you just mentioned.

Except that they're  all caused by a virus that's easily spread from human to human...which is kind of a big deal.

Really though, when you read OGNasty saying humans are doomed because they rely on science too much, or tbvcof rambling on about government conspiracies or Tash posting links to some of the most obviously fake this-has-to-be-a-joke-omg-its-not-people-actually-believe-this articles do you just look past them all because you all have the common goal of pwning the libs?  

Or are you tacitly agreeing with them?  


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Gyfts on January 22, 2022, 11:34:09 PM
Except that they're  all caused by a virus that's easily spread from human to human...which is kind of a big deal.

And in that calculation, I would present you with the crucial and critical question -- what is the death rate amongst the general population? I would think of COVID differently had the death rate been something like 50 percent, similar to a virus like Ebola. But if Omicron results in mild symptoms for the vast majority of the population, I have a tough time caring. Thankfully many people feel the same way, which is why you're seeing anti-lockdown/anti-restriction protests in many countries. You see people against government imposed mandates.

because you all have the common goal of pwning the libs?

No I just enjoy civil liberties protected from tyranny.


Title: Re: When will the vaccination end?
Post by: Tash on January 24, 2022, 10:03:51 AM

For a lot of people it never started and never will, there is no space for govenment tyranny in this day and age.
https://odysee.com/@ResistanceGB:f/barrister-ody-HB:0