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December 15, 2021, 12:17:20 PM |
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The vaccination will end as soon as you establish your own govenment. Then by unanimous democratic decision end the vaccination.
Will you end all vaccinations? Eventually if we stick together and ignore all the doctors we could probably bring enough of the old school viruses back to life like Polio, Cholera, Small pox... wouldn't be long before we've got a good old fashioned plague on our hands! That would be so sick!
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December 15, 2021, 07:28:41 PM |
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Japan has a high number of technically competent people. An unsustainable number of people would realize that for sure their government is out to democide them. The govt just doesn't have the latitude that others in less intellectually developed countries or ones where they have been teaching/inculcating scientsim for a long time such as the U.S.. I don't see the tweet so maybe it has been removed already, but I also don't have a twatter account so I don't understand the platform well. Would be interesting to know the presentation Boulle is referencing.
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Japan says NO to vaccine mandates, passports, and discrimination against unvaxxed
Japan situation is does make a good case against vaccine mandates, their vax rate is higher than most other countries with mandates. I imagine that's mostly due to them having a much smaller population of conspirtards though. That's the anti vaxxer on the advisory board saying that, not a statement by the FDA. And he's not a doctor or scientists, he's a tech guy that is building a business around Covid treatment. He invented the optical mouse though, which is cool. This tech millionaire went from covid trial funder to misinformation superspreader After boosting unproven covid drugs and campaigning against vaccines, Steve Kirsch was abandoned by his team of scientific advisers—and left out of a job. https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036408/silicon-valley-millionaire-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/ In May 2021, Kirsch posted an article online making an unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility, while also underplaying the vaccines' ability to prevent illness and death.[10] The following month, Kirsch appeared in a YouTube video posted with Bret Weinstein and Robert W. Malone to discuss COVID-19 vaccines. In the video, Kirsch makes several false claims, including that spike proteins used in COVID-19 vaccines are "very dangerous".Smart move by the conspiratards though. Find the one cook that got onto the FDA advisory board and then quote him as "FDA".
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December 17, 2021, 03:37:04 AM |
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More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020. https://www.foxnews.com/us/fentanyl-overdoses-leading-cause-death-adultsHow often have you heard about preventing drug OD's in the conversation of vaccinations or Covid restrictions? The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate. If the goal is to save lives, they would move past Covid-19, but they can't let it go. They don't want to let it go. And on that note, we are still one or two deaths, world wide, of the omicron variant. Didn't prevent the health experts from pushing hysteria on the late night television news shows.
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December 17, 2021, 06:58:58 AM |
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More adults in the US, aged 18-45, have died of fentanyl overdoses than Covid-19 in 2020.
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People Will Die! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
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December 17, 2021, 10:32:55 AM |
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The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate.
No, you're the one that's unable to keep politics and science separate. Over the past 100 years public health experts have contributed more to humanity than any other group arguably in history with vaccines being among their greatest accomplishments and reasons for human life expectancy basically doubling. And today, public health experts have more resources and knowledge than at any other point in history. They aren't the ones making vaccines or wearing a mask during a pandemic political. The politicians telling you they are, are the ones doing that.
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December 17, 2021, 03:56:40 PM |
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The goals of public health experts are short sighted, because they are unable to keep politics and science separate.
No, you're the one that's unable to keep politics and science separate. Over the past 100 years public health experts have contributed more to humanity than any other group arguably in history with vaccines being among their greatest accomplishments and reasons for human life expectancy basically doubling. Yes, I've heard the talking points before, about masking and lockdowns. Meanwhile, I don't think you could possibly cite a single Covid statistic off memory because the line "vaccines are safe and effective" is all you know, or care to know. And I'm pro vaccine for people that need it, I also happen to factor the publicly available literature and data from countries that offer it in my analysis. Masking, lockdowns, mandates, have been politicized because the "experts" are refusing to acknowledge these efforts generally don't work by all available data. But they've already created the narrative, and it's difficult to disrupt. And today, public health experts have more resources and knowledge than at any other point in history. They aren't the ones making vaccines or wearing a mask during a pandemic political. The politicians telling you they are, are the ones doing that. The same experts telling children to mask despite Covid having a lower death rate than the flu? Those experts? There are plenty of public health experts that are able to separate politics and science. Someone like Dr. Fauci is not, but somehow he has risen to become the most popular health expert in the world.
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December 17, 2021, 05:47:36 PM |
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The same experts telling children to mask despite Covid having a lower death rate than the flu? Those experts?
Yes. The most qualified, experienced scientists and doctors in the world.
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December 17, 2021, 06:16:28 PM |
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That's quite absurd even by your typical straw man logic. How often have you heard about preventing ODs in the conversation about flu vaccines? Or measles? It doesn't mean those problems aren't being discussed. Unfortunately e.g. in our county the same twats who spread COVID-19 anti-vax nonsense are also against increasing health department's budget for naloxone, let alone promoting non-opioid painkillers and other longer-term solutions.
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December 17, 2021, 07:26:41 PM |
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That's quite absurd even by your typical straw man logic. How often have you heard about preventing ODs in the conversation about flu vaccines? Or measles? It doesn't mean those problems aren't being discussed. Unfortunately e.g. in our county the same twats who spread COVID-19 anti-vax nonsense are also against increasing health department's budget for naloxone, let alone promoting non-opioid painkillers and other longer-term solutions. No, the problems aren't being discussed in fact. In Europe, drug OD's increasing as well despite the strong social support programs and funding, because lockdowns have unintended consequences. One of the biggest lies purported during the pandemic is that government cares about your life, they never have. Government cares about government. They will do anything to hold more power, and Covid is just an excuse. Remember, in a post 9/11 world, the security agencies would argue that warrantless spying on Americans was done for your safety. Surely you don't believe them. It's the same concept with another script. So while Americans die of fentanyl overdoses, obesity, car crashes, cancer, they'll do so wearing a mask so they can at least do it safely.
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December 17, 2021, 07:42:40 PM |
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End? LOL... Imagine the government ending a temporary program... Once you give them an inch you're never getting your mile back. I refuse to take one single step down a path of regular injections from the government. "Two weeks to flatten the curve" suddenly turned into, "winter of illness, death" for those who don't get the vaccine. Even in the face of a diminishing threat, the government is doubling down on the fearmongering. Not to mention the vaccine has shown that it doesn't stop the spread, so the entire thing is a bad joke on the human population to the tune of trillions of dollars wasted.
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December 17, 2021, 11:19:41 PM |
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End? LOL... Imagine the government ending a temporary program... Once you give them an inch you're never getting your mile back. I refuse to take one single step down a path of regular injections from the government. "Two weeks to flatten the curve" suddenly turned into, "winter of illness, death" for those who don't get the vaccine. Even in the face of a diminishing threat, the government is doubling down on the fearmongering. Not to mention the vaccine has shown that it doesn't stop the spread, so the entire thing is a bad joke on the human population to the tune of trillions of dollars wasted.
well let's imagine that if in February 2020 all governments forced people to wear masks, forced people to comply with social distancing, and let's also assume that everyone in the world abides by these rules. we wouldn't have so many deaths and we wouldn't have this frightening number of cases, so the problem is not with governments, the problem is with people who are stubborn and have a way of thinking that even just hearing what they think hurts my brain. in this same thread we have certain people who are against vaccine, honestly every time I read the post of these people against vaccine I wonder if these people against vaccine are still on this planet
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Not everyone has to be immunized to achieve group immunity, in theory it only takes 60-70% of people who are vaccinated against Covid so that all people are protected from Covid. But that's according to theory, we don't know the facts on the ground because the vaccine has not reached 60% of the world's population, besides that we also don't know the effectiveness of the covid-19 vaccine against the further attacks of covid-19, plus the number of variants of covid is increasing, which means there are also more types of vaccines available must be vaccinated again. So it can't be predicted when the vaccination will end.
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December 18, 2021, 05:39:05 PM |
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Japan situation is does make a good case against vaccine mandates, their vax rate is higher than most other countries with mandates. I imagine that's mostly due to them having a much smaller population of conspirtards though.
Japanese society is, to Western people, very strange. The people are extremely obedient. I think if the government says take a vaccine, the people will take a vaccine. I was in Japan a few years back. Just some anecdotal evidence to illustrate the point, but I witnessed a drunken fight in Tokyo, two guys came out of a bar, stood a few paces away from each other, started yelling but took turns to do so, each politely letting the other finish before he started. After a few minutes of this they bowed to each other, and went back in. The culture is very different there, I'm sure this is a contributing factor to vaccine take-up.
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December 18, 2021, 10:37:39 PM |
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Even if it's not possible to vaccinate everyone in the world but I am sure they will try to vaccinate as many as they can. Even in my country, starting from January, they will implement a rule that those who didn't have a vaccination card can't enter an establishment like malls and after that many people are gathering in a vaccination center to get vaccinated. It is like a business but is about vaccines.
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December 19, 2021, 08:38:14 AM Last edit: December 19, 2021, 09:21:24 AM by Tash |
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Even if it's not possible to vaccinate everyone in the world but I am sure they will try to vaccinate as many as they can. Even in my country, starting from January, they will implement a rule that those who didn't have a vaccination card can't enter an establishment like malls and after that many people are gathering in a vaccination center to get vaccinated. It is like a business but is about vaccines.
There clearly should be more pandemics its spells massive profits, Pfizer and co can't believe there luck, investers done everything to prolong it. Massive pofit for some very very deathly toxic injections for others who partake, (yes we know some got saline injections, they be fine) https://rumble.com/vr0yj2-stew-peters-scientific-proof-covid-injections-are-mass-poisoning.htmlIf cancer and heart issues is not enough https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-12-17-82-percent-women-suffer-abortion-covid-jab.htmlOnly just the beginning lets revisit in 5 years when pandemic is in full operation
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