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Inspired by our dear P&S celebrity BADecker:


I must say I have some doubts about this statement. Let's have a quick vote and set the record straight. Obviously only vaccinated people can vote because we can trust only first-hand experiences. So if you have been vaccinated please let us know if you're still alive or not.

I think other people should vote also, people that have heard cases of death after vaccination. People that have died after receiving vaccination will not be able to vote.

But I have not heard any record of death than some vaccine adverse effect like blood clotting.

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Over 250 million people have been vaccinated, even if no vaccine is given to any of them and they are not having the virus, what guarantee that few people will not still die without having the virus and without receiving the vaccine.

Something wrong here. If a vaccinated person died, how could he vote to let you know?

Back to the topic, it really depends on what kind of vaccine:

Yes, approximately 4100 (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html#:~:text=Over%20245%20million%20doses%20of,received%20a%20COVID%2D19%20vaccine.) people have died after taking the various covid vaccines. These deaths may or may not be attributed to the vaccine. Some of these deaths may be due to factors unrelated to receiving the vaccine.

When you take into consideration that 100MM+ people have received the covid vaccine, the chances of death are very low. The death rate of people receiving the vaccine is much lower than the death rate of people who are infected by covid, by a large margin. If too few people get the vaccine, the choice people will need to make is to either eventually get infected by covid, or to get the vaccine. The data suggests that getting the vaccine is safer.

LOL. The trolling has started. One person already voted that he is dead.

Anyway, BADecker doesn't care. He never lets reality spoil his ideas. JetCash also said that there were many people dying in the short term from the vaccine.

The point is that the more people are vaccinated and the more time passes, the more confident we can be that the vaccines are safe. And we can already be pretty sure today.

According to the news, it was even in United States alone that over 4100 death were recorded, that means more death would be recorded in the world generally. I even thought the blood clotting adverse effect which was reported not common did not lead to death, thinking it will be impossible for few people not to die among millions of people given the vaccine. Although, not all will be linked to the vaccine.

It will really be interesting to know if the blood clotting caused by the vaccine is the reason for some or most of the infrequent death or not, this now makes me to be afraid of taking any of the vaccine.

I'm alive even though I have been vaccinated. (Not Covid vaccine)

Still vaccines can cause a death because recently 2 people who I know died due to blot clots in their arteries which happened just after they have been vaccinated, I mean in less than a week so I don't want to take the Covid vaccine because depopulation conspiracy theories make some sense if we look all these things as a sequence.

No, No!  Bad pleb!  You obviously didn't get quite enough vaccines back in the day.

I would imagine that there's a considerable overlap between those who think that vaccines kill people, and those who think that the vaccine implants a Bill Gates 5G chip that turns you into a zombie.
Perhaps the second option in the poll should be changed to 'undead'... this is I assume what those who voted for the second option meant.

There has been large doses of vaccines created in the past that have proved effectively, but the process of making covid 19 vaccines is too fast, this can be the reason it is not created improperly. Or if created properly, I will not use it because it clots blood of few, we have never known how long the vaccine will even last. Eat good, sleep healthily and avoid the vaccine is all I am doing.

@suchmoon the answer to your question is yes people did die after taking the vaccine, and the latest example was J&@J vaccine, however do note that many have survived too. Also so far I have seen many people take vaccine around me, and luckily they all have survived however few caught covid (after second dose) which got me scared about taking the vaccine, but as I said before once Novavax comes I’ll take it and if this thread is yet around I’ll let you know that I survived  ;D.

Source:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/us/politics/johnson-johnson-vaccine-blood-clots-fda-cdc.html

Unfortunately I can't answer the pool because I am not yet vaccinated. But everybody I know who got vaccinated is still alive. In my country there are around 10-15 million vaccinated people and the death from vaccines are below 10 I think. Also it seems impossible to hide if someone dies from the vaccine. If a young person in your family dies you want to know why, there will be an inquiry and the family will not be silent about it.

It should be obvious how vaccines were and are today. People die depending on the vaccines they took and the carelessness of the people in charge of administering those vaccines to them (not following age limit for vaccines or health checks before vaccination as to whether the person is in a good shape or healthy enough to undergo covid-19 vaccination). Nowadays, it isn't that frightening anymore to take vaccines since the people who create and administer these vaccines have already learned a lot from the past mistakes and so I believe that it is already possible for a minimal to no risk vaccination on most parts of the world.

Exactly. If I were to take the shit I read on this board seriously, I must be a zombie.


The chance of dying from blood clots caused by the vaccine is much lower than the chance of same happening from getting sick with COVID-19, which you very likely will get sick with, or pretty much any other everyday risk. Like orders of magnitude lower. Or get a different vaccine if that concerns you.

But this wouldn't be the first time that people on a Bitcoin forum - who presumably trust their wealth to probabilities - don't actually have a clue of how probabilities work.

i am from africa and in my country since i was born i already had many vaccines:

1 - I had a vaccine against tetanus

2 - I got a flu vaccine

3 - I got a tuberculosis vaccine

4 - I got a measles vaccine

5 - I got a vaccine against iminigitis

here in my country it is mandatory that as soon as the person has just been born, he / she starts to be vaccinated and follows a strict vaccination schedule

and I never heard of cases of death because of these vaccines, the case of covid vaccines may have some exceptions, but they are not cases to create conspiracy theory

I heard a story about someone who got suffocated by an airbag once, so I took all the airbags out of my car. You can never be too safe, ya know? I tried to do it to my neighbor's car too, but he called the cops on me. Seems like he's just a shill for BiG aIrBaG.

I voted alive even though one of my favorite songs is White Zombie's Living Dead Girl.
I'm still getting paychecks so I'm assuming that I'm still alive?


I'll keep you posted...

I had an electrician round to do some work in my house last week. He asked me if I’d had the vaccine, I said no & that I was hesitant to take it (I’m 34). He told me his friends wife had it, she’s 31, any way she went to hospital with severe abdominal pain, turns out she had a blood clot from the AstraZeneca jab & they had to operate & remove her large bowel. Quite terrible really, the thing is you can’t sue as these vaccines are experimental & the pharma companies who make them have no responsibility for any ill effects you suffer as a consequence of having it.

If you’re old &/or have pre-existing medical conditions then sure, take the jab.

If you’re relatively fit & healthy why risk it by having an experimental vaccine? This vaccine was rushed, I don’t trust it.
Vaccines take decades to master, why on earth risk it if corona virus isn’t likely to kill you?

I’m far from an anti vaccine nut but a bit of risk assessment is a good idea. Weigh up the pros & cons, I’m 34, I am close to 100% certain my immune system will protect me against covid. I’m going to give the vaccine a miss for now.

Hospitals and governments will prove that these death is natural and vaccine has no effect in this death by anyway but we don't know what is the reality so I don't want to take risk on my life as long as I don't fall sick and reaches severe stage of covid.

This study (https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1005) looked at the rate of blood clots between the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna) and COVID infections.
That latest data from the CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/safety-of-vaccines.html) also estimates the rate of blood clots with the "high risk" J&J vaccine.
Here are the numbers:

Pfizer/Moderna: 4.1 cases per million people
AstraZeneca: 5 cases per million people
J&J: 7 cases per million people
COVID: 39 cases per million people

Don't want a blood clot? Great! Get the vaccine. It reduces your risk of blood clots by between 80-90%!

It is likely that certain groups of people are more likely to develop serious adverse reactions to the vaccine. There is some data that suggests that people who recently were infected with covid are at higher risk for some adverse reactions. If you currently have covid, the vaccine is not going to do anything for you, so you should probably not get the vaccine.

Overall, the risk of death from the vaccine is orders of magnitude lower than from the risk of death from covid, even among the healthy. There is also the risk you will get seriously sick from covid, while this risk is basically non-existent for the vaccine.

As previously mentioned, if too many people decline to get the vaccine, you will either need to get the vaccine or eventually get covid.   

Sounds like a real sound couple of 'studies' you got there.  Pffft.

Read a little bit of the first one.  Oxford studied the the Oxford/AstraZenea vaccine in the U.S. and found no blood related issues caused by AstraZeneca because no AstraZeneca was given there.  Anyone see a problem here....a couple of problems actually.  I'll leave it to the reader.

I mean, that's categorically not what it says, but don't let facts get in the way of your nonsense opinions. Why change the habit of a lifetime.

More proof, plus realistic estimates of how many died from Covid, so far, in the USA.


VACCINE HOLOCAUST now accelerating: VAERS data show nearly 4,000% increase in vaccine deaths in 2021 (so far) vs. the entire year of 2020 (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-06-vaers-data-show-increase-in-vaccine-deaths-2021.html#)




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You're underestimating it... according to my scientific research 1/3 are dead, so out of ~150 million vaccinated in the US alone, ~50 million must have died by now. On the other hand, apparently they are still able to use the internet so it's not a big deal really.

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Thanks for the encouragement. From https://www.openvaers.com/, "12,261 DEATHS"... with the notation that, "VAERS is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System put in place in 1990. It is a voluntary reporting system that has been estimated to account for only 1%* of vaccine injuries." In other words, this is a CDC report.

At https://www.openvaers.com/covid-data/death-stats, "COVID Vaccine Data - Through April 23, 2021 - Deaths: Total 3544." Adding in the fact that only 1% are reported... you calculate it.


You don't like what the CDC is telling you, do you! You believe them about Covid. Why not the vaccines?

And then you want to pick on poor little me, because you can't wrap your genitals head around the info. You seem to be even more retarded than f1.

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Speaking of CDC:


You have conveniently ignored two facts about VAERS: it's an open system where anyone can report anything, and it does not necessarly mean that the vaccine was actually the cause of those adverse events. Add to that the clearly made up 1% figure and you got a full-blown conspiratardery.

Do yourself a favor, try some actual math. Like: out of 150 million vaccinated individuals, assuming a 0.8% annual death rate, how many would have died the next day for reasons unrelated to the vaccine?

Precisely. Time for you to look at the CDC and realize that it is made up of loads of doctors who don't necessarily agree with what the CDC officially publishes.

With regard to the type of idea vaccines is, consider the CDC comorbidity report about 94% dying from comorbidities rather than Covid. The whole CDC is simply an open report that jumps this way and that. In the same way that they say that people dying of Covid when they are really dying of comorbidities, in that way the people are dying of the vaccine rather than something else. Or vice versa if you want to go that route.

Your picking and choosing to believe one thing but not another is totally anecdotal... unscientific.

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Incorrect. There is no picking and choosing necessary, all your made-up nonsense is nonsense. But if you want to dispute CDC findings, you should probably start by reviewing "available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records" instead of grabbing one number that you like and making up a story about it.

Vaccines don't kill people, people kill people.

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Whooosh...

That's a good reflection of modern 'science' in our current devolution into scientism.

No studies are allowed to cast doubt on vaccines because 'vaccine hesitancy' is one of the chief world-wide security issue facing humanity.  So says the WHO.  Because of this no officially stamped studies show any issues with the so-called 'vaccines'.  Ergo, there is no 'evidence' of any problems.

Whoops, we got a primary source in here, will somebody be brave enough to contradict his statement and say that vaccines is not necessary and will just kill you ...

     Deaths are bound to happen when a vaccine is made in a hurry and is still on the early stages. People responsible may deny it but it is pretty clear that these vaccines were half baked. The good news though, is that this pandemic has been long enough and have made a lot of test subjects for these vaccines which is why the rate of the people who are dying because of the vaccines or are connected to the vaccination shots have reduced. It is a risk but something that desperate people are willing to take specially if you are a frontliner or have people you care about, getting vaccinated is just unavoidable. Good thing there are quite a few choices available for people who want to be vaccinated. I just don't know if such choices are available anywhere in the world.

Many people have loads of car accidents, and never get hurt... but some people die the first time. If they keep getting in accidents, one of those accidents will get them... sooner or later.

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Ohhhhh so its not intentional then, cause its accident, good to know  8) :D

Absolutely. By the way most people drive, it's purely an accident that they don't get into accidents.

So, it's purely an accident that they live for a few months, or a year or two after they get vaccinated.

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I haven't got vaccinated, but from the people living in my locality I'm stating the effects they felt after vaccination. There is severe body pain, and within two weeks time she got affected by covid-19. But, doctors mentioned the vaccine had helped them resist and hasn't affected the lungs. With another person he have got a block in heart, and this is mentioned as the side effects of the injection. I'm not sure, whether it is true or not.

One of my brother got vaccinated once after getting cure from covid-19. He also said about the body pain and tired feeling. After the vaccination he continues his work as nurse serving covid-19 patients.

First I'm afraid to vaccinate, because of many news around the world have side effects after their inject the vaccine. But many doctors said that's is normal, many vaccinated have some mild side effect then their gone, they said if you have other sickness its better to tell them before you vaccinate.

Yeah it is scary at first since the effectivity is not yet perfected but look at us right now, Polio, diptheria, Tetanus, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Rubella, Hib, Measles, and Rotavirus would still be a problem and a lot of people are dying to this if we didn't have vaccines made against it. Don't be scared to get vaccinated, you are probably safe.

The clotting as such a small chance the regular medications that we all use such as paracetamol and birth control are probably more likely to have adverse effects.  

Its funny because despite your obvious sarcasm your data is probably more accurate than most of the stuff that gets posted here


I cannot wait to get my "Vaccines don't kill people, people do" T Shirt.

You are so good.

How about:
Front: "Vaccines don't kill people..."
Back: "... medical people do."

Front and back might prevent the fast outrage many of the people would show against you. Of cours, if you are ready to be mobbed, put both on both sides.

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I think it is time to ban non-vaccinated people from entering government buildings, hospitals, schools, airports, etc.

All businesses that employ non-vaccinated people should have their registrations/licenses revoked and stiff business and personal penalties
should be imposed.

This pandemic will not end until all anti-vaxxers are hunted down and vaccinated.

Wasn't it just you over the last year, who was downplaying the idea of slavery in the Bible? And here you go, wanting to enslave people all over the world, and based on faulty info, at that.

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https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer

Can't wait for the mental gymnastics to explain this one. I'm going to go with "As it gets closer to summer, the virus gets killed by the UV rays from the sun going inside your body like Trump said would happen."

The vaccine rollout started in late December, but cases didn't start dropping until mid-January. This is because the vaccine is irrelevant. Mid-January is when Trump left office. One of his last acts as president was to build a wall around the secret Wuhan Bill Gates Big Pharma 5G Virus Lab where the Covids are manufactured. Of course "they" don't want you to know that, so it's all being suppressed. But this is what's stopping the virus from getting out. Did you think his wall was a stupid xenophobic jingoistic waste of money? Well, you're wrong. Turns out he's actually saved the world.

The new strategy to make 'vaccines' 'work' is to:

 - count vaccinated people as covid cases only if the have to go to the hospital.

 - count non-vaccinated people whenever a test comes up positive or whenever a 'doctor' 'suspects' that a person might have 'covid'.  Presumably the same sorts of cash bonuses exist for 'treating covid cases' which is sure to bolster the numbers as needed.

A corresponding fraud:

 - halt RT-PCR cycles at 28 when testing for SARS-cov-2 in vaccinated people.

 - continue to run the test cycles deep into the no-go zone when testing non-vaccinated people to take advantage of the false-positive rate.

They calculate that most people are to stupid to comprehend the mechanics of the fraud.  Sadly I don't think they are wrong about this.

The author should have included a middle column for "Adverse affect" because dead people tell no tales after the second shot like "Marvelous" Marvin Haggler, Hank Aaron and DMX. Unless by your definition of "dead" in this case means "Adverse Reaction" that makes the person feel dead like Guillain-Barre syndrome, skin rash, and convulsions after taking the shot. This shot is a gamble no matter how you look at it they never tested it on Animals and human you are the test subject...  And maybe for the hell of it the author should include "I'm a bad anti-vaxxer person, shame shame" in the poll.

Well, this poll has scientifically proven that 23.5% of people get killed by the vaccine so obviously the virus gets killed too. Duh.



Did you take the vaccine? Are you still alive? If that's too complicated, let me know how I can make it easier for the two of you.

Yes, they did...



^{[CITATION NEEDED]}


too stupid

Ahh damn Cnut237, we were both wrong. Turns out the real answer is that every doctor, every nurse, every pharmacist, every lab tech, every virologist, every epidemiologist, every you get the idea in the entire world is part of a grand conspiracy that only tvbcof and BADecker can see through! ::)

I see you've been taking notes out of tvbcof's book: Throw out words you've just Googled and which you don't understand, conveniently omitting the fact that post-viral GBS is several orders of magnitude more common that post-vaccine GBS.

Yeah, yeah.  This one is getting old.  Any fool can see that very few people would need to be in the manufacture and distribution loop to pull off some adulteration of vaccines.  Why don't you flip to another page in your binder and find a new talking point.

When the first atomic bomb went off it was a big surprise to almost everyone, and the Manhattan project was vastly more visible than the opaque world of pharmaceuticals and biologicals.  They had Los Almos with a stunning collection of top physicists, and huge facilities with tons of workers in Washington and in Oak Ridge.  Almost nobody who worked at or on these facilities had the slightest idea of what they were actually working towards.

Right. So if only "very few" people are involved, how many of your conspiracy doctors exactly are seeing suspected COVID cases, given there was a peak of 250,000 a day? Is it one per state, or maybe Fauci sees every one personally? Man, he must be busy!

If you give 'free money' by just by having doctors (and dentists even) mark down 'covid', make it clear to them through administrative channels that you wanted them to do that and that they can do it if the victim has a couple of symptoms (e.g., a temp + a headache) and tell them that there will be no follow-up, most people are going to take it.  Doesn't mean that they are exactly 'bad people' since they didn't see much ham in picking up some free bucks, and it certainly doesn't mean that they understand the intricacies of gene therapy or the kinds of control mechanisms people like Schwab and Gates are seeking to put in place.

This stuff is kind of obvious.  Thus, it is also kind of obvious that you are being deliberately dense and/or grasping at straws.

Wow such censoring message much? I didn't take it so option 3 which isn't on the poll or is my new message to you doomed to be not seen or read. As I said in the message content which you removed "dead people tell no tales"".

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Actually they did test it on animals but the animals all died of disease due to what it does to their DNA. Which is why they covered up the prototype of this vaccine before the pandemic was unleased upon the masses.

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OK to everyone "Alive" that took the vaccine keep telling yourself it is only 2 shots you'll have to endure to keep your vaccine passport. It will be more like 1 shots, 2 shots, 3 shots, 4 shots, etc. till it gives you such an adverse reaction that you'll admit you've been scammed and duped into taking something that adversely affected you or worse "dead" but you won't be able to vote dead :D that's what makes this poll so oxymoronic. Someone could vote on your behalf that you are dead though but that is the extent to it.

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The hilarity of someone who is willfully ignorant of the irrefutable mountain of evidence in favor of vaccines calling anything "obvious". ::)

Cool. Sign me up. I've lost track of just how many different vaccinations I've received. I'll take a COVID shot every year for the rest of my life if it means not dying on a ventilator, thanks.

Sure, take your cocktails of vaccine shots its your choice as a person. I'm just trying to enlighten you that like pharmaceuticals they can have adverse side effects depending upon your body type and can make your life miserable. Why does the CDC and HHS have this site then?:

VAERS
https://vaers.hhs.gov/

Because it is the sensible and responsible thing to do? Everything has risks, obviously. You risk death every time you have something to eat.

When the risk of morbidity or mortality from a disease is many orders of magnitude higher than the risk of any serious adverse effect from a vaccine, then the only logical choice is to take the vaccine.

If you didn't take the vaccine, you can't vote in my poll. You can still troll the thread but please stop multiposting, that's against forum rules.

And as you can see dead people are successfully voting so everything is fine.

Are you saying that humans do not have an "immune system"? I can sort of understand the fear that would drive an older person to get the vaccine due to their immune system diminishing.

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Just like in the election, dead people can vote :D. So I can't multipost something "new" in your precious thread? I'm putting in new content, I don't understand the concept as you present it. Usually if the mods don't like my post or regard it as not presenting new content they remove it. I've been flagged before for just posting the one word.

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I'm saying nothing of the sort.

I think it could happen. A vaccine is a poison that is injected into the human body. If the human body is not healthy, the vaccine will cause them to convulse leading to death. In the world, there are many deaths after vaccination, especially young children. Doctors around the world should make the best vaccines to avoid the unfortunate happening.

Do vaccines kill people?


More or less a silly question. Do cars kill people?
1. Some cars are never in an accident.
2. Some cars get in accidents that injure people, sometimes maiming them for life.
3. Some cars get in accidents that kill people.

With vaccines, we don't know. Why not? Because once you get a vaccine, you can't ever do it the other way, ever again.

What if you get a vaccine and live to ninety? How could you ever guess how long you might have lived if you had never gotten the vaccine? You might have lived to 110! But maybe only 70. Nobody knows, especially if you get the vaccine as a child.

The CDC says that vaccines kill people. They don't say that all vaccines kill people. But they do say that some vaccines kill people. Check it out in plain language at https://www.openvaers.com/.

Right on the home page they show that there were "998,726 REPORTS OF VACCINE ADVERSE EVENTS IN VAERS" and "12,839 DEATHS." This is the total for all the years that the CDC has had VAERS in operation... something like 30 or more.

Do vaccines kill people? The CDC says so in VAERS. And the Harvard School of Medicine shows in a longer-than-ten-years study, that VAERS gets only less than 1% of the reports. This means that there could have been as many as over 1,283,900 deaths since VAERS became operational.

Here is the funny part about this all. Since the Covid mRNA injections are not vaccine injections, they shouldn't be included in the same category as vaccines in the VAERS death reports. Since they are genetic RNA/DNA manipulation test injections, they should have their own section.

On top of this, VAERS reports about 4,000 anti-Covid injection deaths. But since they get less than 1% reported to them, Covid mRNA injection deaths could be as high as 400,000.

An additional mixer-upper in all this is, cause of death reports are subjective. The are subject to the best guess of the attending physician or examiner following the death. And the joker might have all kinds of bias regarding cause of death, this way or that.

The way we can tell that death was mRNA injection caused, was how healthy the person was before the jab, and how fast he got sick, afterward... and if there were any other things he did differently that could have been the cause of death.

But the big point is, the CDC doesn't really have a clue regarding any of it. The reports to VAERS were judgmental, by the judgment of the physician who determined the cause of death. The best source for this info is the anecdotal reports from friends and families of the person who died.

Vaccines DO kill. And the mRNA injected serum does kill. The CDC says so.


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Actually we do know. Fewer people die from vaccine-preventable diseases like measles, and average life expectancy has gone up significantly over the last ~hundred years in large part due to vaccines.

Obviously if you die a in a car crash, vaccine is not going to help you. And you can afford to be an antivaxxer because most people around you are vaccinated, so you're welcome.

Vaccines sometimes turn people into long-term asymptomatic carriers.

They also form an ecosystem where pathogens mutate more readily in order to evade the sub-standard vaccination methods which are very much more limited than natural immunity through infection.

They are also a huge drain on society with all of their auto-immunity and other health problems.  When they get channeled into the chronic illness track and dependent on 'modern medicine' they quickly deplete their financial resources to where they cannot afford a pot to piss in.  Then we healthy people who can still think clearly enough to hold high paying technical jobs have to foot their bills.

If that isn't bad enough, it seems that some of the latest generation gene therapies are design such that the 'vaccinated' shed their degraded condition to others in the community who were smart enough to avoid being participants in the drug trial.

Thanks for nothing.

Actually, we don't know. Cause of death is a judgmental thing in most cases, done by a doctor who thought the symptoms looked good enough to suggest that it was this or that.

Long ago, medicine threw away the robes of dignity that surgeons wore. But they are still keep up with the stupidity of turning assumptions and guesses into words written in stone.

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Millions of lives are saved each year because of airbags in cars. 1 person was suffocated from an airbag. Therefore, remove all airbags.

Go and Google images of polio survivors and iron lungs and see just how good natural immunity is, if you were lucky enough not to die in the first place.

My dad had polio as a kid.  15 years later he was 'tending hook' meaning he was the guy who climbed most of the way up a 250 foot tree, cut the top out, rigged it with cable, then fitted a 1000lb block at the top.  I think it fair to say that he was not in an 'iron lung'.

To be fair, my great aunt also had it and she was pretty fucked up needing braces and a crutches for the rest of her life.

The famous pic of kid in 'iron lungs' was a publicity stunt to scare the shit out of people.  Basically a consolidation of a lot of the tiny minority who suffered bona-fide and permanent diaphragm paralysis.  Yes, it did happen, but it was not very common really.  It also actually happened that about half the population were injected with SV40 monkey cancer virus which was a component of the vaccine at that time.  4 out of 4 of my grandparents got cancer.  And both of my parents as well (though my dad was probably just told by the medicos that he had it and probably didn't because he ignored the diagnosis and it never amounted to anything.)

If people actually cared about 'polio' they would STOP doing the vaccine because reverted vaccine strain is causing most of the 'cases' in most places these days.  If wild strain comes back, then start vaccinating again.  The hypothesis that this global vaccination program is one of Gates tax write-off pet projects to limit population growth is much stronger than the hypothesis that that freak cares much for little niggers and other goyim.

It sounds horrific. Which is why the vaccine is so important.



But cancer is extremely common. I think it's a more than a stretch to link this to the Polio vaccine.



Okay, but the relative numbers are an important consideration here, and they utterly undermine that argument...

https://ourworldindata.org/polio#the-vaccine-against-polio

Compare the scale on the y-axis across the two charts.

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Not Covid-19 vaccines.

mRNA vaccines do not contain or produce pathogens.

There is no way for you to become an asymptomatic carrier from a covid-19 vaccine alone. 

You need to be infected with a real covid-19 virus to be a carrier.

Of course not. "Messenger" is what the "m" stands for. All that mRNA does is delivers the message, the instructions, showing the body how to produce the pathogens itself. The "RNA" in the mRNA is the delivery encryption service that makes the message to be understood by the person's cells.

You are totally right. Alone a vaccine doesn't train anybody how to be an asymptomatic carrier. It has to be injected to do that job.

Are you even thinking that there is somebody around somewhere that doesn't have a few Covid viruses in him? Maybe that old song, "The fool on the Hill." He's still up there, and hasn't gotten into the wind stream where there is a floating Covid virus, yet. But everybody in the cities has been infected by now. Most of them are healthy enough that Covid doesn't even bother them.

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Well, no shit.  That's what an asymptomatic carrier is!  You obviously don't understand the basic meaning of the phenomenon.

Though they (Pfizer studying their own product) found out that the so-called vaccine 'works' (reduces mild symptoms) in a matter of weeks, they've been trying to figure out if 'vaccinated' people can catch and spread the infection for half a year now.  The long delay on this rather easy and obvious thing to discover is almost certainly because the 'vaccinated' can and do catch and spread the infection and nobody wants to admit how much relative to the un-jabbed.

With pertussis, the vaccine makes it so that instead of getting a cough for a few weeks and clearing it, the wild strain lingers in one's body for months or years so you can spread it around that much more.  To make matters worse the duration of immunity for the vaccinated sucks and is getting worse as the bacteria evolves to around the vaccine (using the vaccinated to accelerate that process.)  The reason that real trials take years _approve_ is because it takes a while to discover ecological features such as this.

The coronabacteria? The one that causes COBAD-19?

Search on "They stopped testing on animals because they were dying," - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=They+stopped+testing+on+animals+because+they+were+dying&ia=web.

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Vaccinated people can as easily get infected with covid-19 as non-vaccinated people.  What happens after they get infected differs diametrically between the two groups.

If you think that vaccinated people cannot get infected by the covid-19 virus, you don't understand how the immune system works and how vaccination protects you from getting sick.

BTW, you lose antibodies pretty quickly, but the memory cells will stay in your immune system for years, and when you get infected you will quickly develop antibodies and eliminate the threat that viruses like covid-19 pose.

When you are vaccinated and get infected with the covid-19 virus, your body will eliminate the virus well before you show any symptoms.  So you might be 'a carrier' for few hours, LOL.  You definitely will not be spreading anything as the viral infection will be stopped in its tracks.

Vaccination against covid-19 prevents the long-term organ damage or death the covid-19 virus can cause. 

Not vaccinating yourself and your loved ones is plain stupid and irresponsible, IMHO.

PS. This virus will not be eradicated unless all of us get vaccinated and wear masks until the case count drop to zero. 

Pertussis is a bacteria.  You can try moving your lips if it helps read better.

You can try arguing your point without straw people (or straw bacteria) but I know that's too hard for you. We just need to assume that COVID-19 vaccines are bad because bacteria.

You snipped 'pertussis' out of my text.  I added it back.  Anyone who can read can see that I was using it to describe an example of asymptomatic carriers cause specifically by a poorly implemented vaccine program.

I'm sure you believe that the covid-19 'vaccine' was rolled out with the utmost care and rigor...cuz reasons...but it is plain to any semi-coherent person that it was not.  Exactly the opposite in fact.  The reason people still need masks is that 'vaccinated' can still get and spread the thing which sounds a lot like it started out failed (unlike the pertussis vaccine which did work for a while.)  And no, it is NOT the common case that the vaccines never stop infection or transmission.  Up until the brainwashing of 2020 that would be laughable and completely nullifies any argument for 'herd immunity'.  But such a concept is well beyond your cognitive reach obviously.  Most other sheep-people's also so don't take it to hard.

I have been vaccinated with the Sinovac vaccine and am still alive today...

I live near the hospital area, to avoid local residents being exposed to Covid 19, local residents are required to take part in the vaccination program by the government, at first my hands cramped a little and was very sleepy but a few hours later my body returned to normal and until now there is no problem whatsoever with my body.

Do vaccines kill people?


The CDC through VAERS says that the vaccines kill people. But they only list the ones who died within a weak or two after being vaccinate. The 250 million who will died from the vaccine over the next 5 years in the US... well, it's going to be a little more difficult to determine if the vaccines killed them, or if virus shedding did it. It will really be difficult if 90% of the virus/vaccine researchers are in that 250-million group.


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I'd offer you a bet but 5 years from now you will probably claim that there are 250 million zombies in the US.

Your detachment from reality is utterly amazing.

Oh, I'm just copying what Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, said (sort of) at the Natural News (https://www.naturalnews.com/) websitesite. Come back in 5 years and let's see. You were vaccinated, weren't you? Well, I guess you don't have to come back.

Check the website for the many links.


BOMBSHELL: Connecticut govt. secretly tells health care workers covid vaccines are DEADLY, but withholds the same information from the public (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-18-connecticut-govt-secretly-tells-health-care-workers-covid-vaccines-are-deadly.html)




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Technically not true.  At least per the theory of operation.

Theses gene therapies supply instructions via one method or another to induce your bodies own cells to produce spike proteins.  Bigger 'bang for the buck' that way.  That's certainly not a 'better' thing!

In theory the mRNA ones (Pfizer, Moderna) cause the creation of a maximum amount of spike protein depending on the individual's rate of pickup, then the process ceases.

The DNA vaccines (AstraZeneca, J&J, Sputnik-V) have the cell machinery make the mRNA also so there is yet another mechanism for things to run away.  Most of the 'self-amplifying RNA' mechods (e.g., Imperial Collage London's) didn't get injected...for this first round...

It's pretty clear that 'spike protein' is bad poo-poo.  Now that we know that at least some of what we consider 'covid' is lab created specifically for this scamdemic, it is extra interesting that it's been all about 'spike protein, ACE-2, spike protein, ACE-2, spike protein, ACE-2' from day 1 of this scamdemic.  It's especially interesting that spike protein is in a class of molecules which are particularly important to placental mammals.

But you really need to think about this a little. Let's say there were about 400,000 US Covid deaths in 2020. I could look up the number, but it's around there.

Then - search and you can easily find it - the CDC said that 94% of the Covid deaths were with comorbidities. This means a lot of stuff. It means that somebody might have almost been dead from cancer, and they tested him for Covid, found that he had a little of it, and blamed the Covid rather than the cancer. But there might have been anything that caused him to die at the time he did... even a medical medication mistake (chemo).

The point is, the 94% were going to die anyway, and so its just a judgmental thing that says that they died of Covid. And the CDC asked/told doctors to announce that it was Covid as much as they could. That's old news.

The point is that with the 94% dying of other things, or dying of we-know-not-what for sure, there's only 6% that we know that died of Covid. That's only 24,000 deaths from Covid in 2020.

Now here's the trick. Many of the Covid deaths were by ventilator. Doctors didn't use their heads and simply feed people oxygen. Rather, they used ventilators to force oxygen into the lungs that had already become delicate organs from the Covid problem, thereby killing them way ahead of what Covid would have done. Somebody might have the stats for this somewhere, but a whole bunch of the 24,000 were killed by the medical.

What this means is that way less people died from Covid that the 24,000. The big 400,000 is just some stuff that sits there because the CDC isn't straight out in the open clear with anybody. But way more people died from the flu every year than that. When you put your thinking cap on, you see that Covid ain't nuthin'.

And when you add to the whole idea that the medical shut down or deceived about HCQ and Ivermectin and Budesonide - all of which cure Covid symptoms in a few days - and instead foisted a stupid non-vaccine on us, calling it a vaccine so that they can't be sued if it harms anybody, you finally start to realize that the whole medical system is a bunch of corrupt liars, with a handful of honest, ignorant, unthinking doctors in the group.

There essentially isn't any Covid except in words. That's it. In fact, there is so much more that can be added to this, that if people had their heads screwed on, they would rise up and destroy the whole medical operation.

8)

False. There is a large number of excess deaths (more people dying in 2020 and 2021 than is normal). And it's close to the reported number of COVID-19 deaths. And I'm sure you've been already told about this many times but you still haven't come up with a sufficiently wacky conspiracy theory to "explain" it. Disappointing.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count

Nah, in BADecker's world if you have high blood pressure or hypothyroidism or asthma or gout or a thousand other things and you die two weeks after catching COVID, then it was actually your comorbidity which killed you, even though you would have lived another 40 years with your comorbidity, and therefore you "were going to die anyway" and so your death doesn't matter.

Nah, in o_e_l_e_o's world, all these little problems people have are suddenly comorbidities. Bit by a mosquito? Just another o_e_l_e_o comorbidity. Lost some hair shampooing? Simply another o_e_l_e_o comorbidity.

I suppose it's always possible for o_e_l_e_o to wake up and find out what a comorbidity really is. The question is, When? Probably, same as the rest of the doctors playing the Covid game.

Talked to a friend, yesterday, whose wife is a professional nurse. She says that doctors where she works are rapidly going down hill regarding quality. o_e_l_e_o is simply more proof.

8)

There's a point to be made there when you look at the data though. If there's a death of an 80 year old that dies of an upper respiratory disease who also happens to have cancer, obesity, hypertension, and all the rest, should that death be tabulated the same way as someone who is 35, healthy, and dies of the same disease?  There was this recent study that looked at comorbidities - https://www.wfla.com/community/health/coronavirus/new-cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-us-had-underlying-medical-conditions/

94 percent of Covid deaths have a comorbidity. It's true that Americans are disgustingly unhealthy so everybody probably has an underlying condition that shouldn't be blamed for the death in all cases, but it also highlights the point that generally Covid is not dangerous to people that are healthy.

Yikes! The USA is a dangerous place to live. And that's without BLM and Antifa threats.

Belize and Panama are a couple of good countries to live in. And both of them don't require a lot to get permanent residence. In addition, many of the South American countries are easy-ish... to get residency or citizenship in. And ask tvbcof how easy the Philippines is. And Elwar can tell you how much fun Thailand is if you don't try seasteading only 13 miles off their shores.


8)

So if no one is healthy then it's dangerous to everybody?

The point is that those 94% would have lived if not for COVID-19. Some may have lived longer, some not so long, but that can be said about any cause of death. IIRC 85%+ of cancer deaths have comorbidities. Does that mean cancer is not dangerous to healthy people?

That's true that people would live longer if it wasn't for Covid. But, we have the data and we know what age demographic Covid is dangerous to, so it helps us understand what factors would make you more vulnerable. There has to be a reason why older folks die at a higher rate than younger folks. What causes this? Significant comorbidities. Weakened immune system? Both?

This isn't so applicable to the NA/EU region, but take India for example. The vaccine rollout should *probably* be given based on age and common comorbidities. Age is technically easier to verify, so that's probably why many places did a rolling vaccine release starting from the oldest and moving its way down, but there's also been plenty of countries that would give out its vaccine to younger folks granted they had some sort of preexisting condition that was significant. If you can isolate the most common comorbidities, it gets easier to target the vaccine. Plus, you figure some of the anti-vaxers would be more inclined to get the vaccine knowing that their heart disease and diabetes increases their chance of death (wishful thinking, I know).

The link I posted above about 94 percent having comorbidities isn't the only consideration because you can't isolate comorbidities and age so it is misleading if used as a standalone figure. I haven't looked too much into this, but if someone has the data for older people without preexisting conditions, I'd be interested in what their survival rate looks like to those in the same age group with preexisting conditions. Same goes for younger people, but the data seems a bit hard to find. I haven't bothered to research intensively though so it may be out there.

But we don't know that. They would have lived a whole lot easier without the cancer, etc. They would have lived even with major Covid without the stupidity of the doctors. The straw that broke the camel's back wasn't even Covid among most of them. Many of them would be alive today with HCQ + zinc, and 40-50 thousand units of vitamin D, daily.

Of all the comorbidities, the doctors and the CDC protocols are the biggest comorbidity. Oh sure. Your average doctor doesn't mean to be that way. He's simply been duped by a bunch of hogwash from the CDC leaders and Big Pharma.

You have it way backwards. That wouldn't be so bad, but yo0u seem to like it that way.

8)

Hydroxychloroquine never worked.

Aside from Trump suggesting that shoving a light bulb up your ass would cure Covid, I never got why he latched on to hydroxychloroquine.

Those who use HCQ in Africa for malaria, and find that they barely have any Covid at all... they'll simply laugh at you. But even if HCQ, or Ivermectin, or vitamin D, and loads of other therapies - like Budesonide - didn't work, they are way better for you than the vaccines.

Check out the many links at the website, and the emphases, as well.


Horrifying Bombshell! Connecticut Warns Moderna VAX Contains Deadly Poison (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/304949-2021-05-19-horrifying-bombshell-connecticut-warns-moderna-vax-contains-deadly-poison.htm)




8)

Well done. You've managed to construct your stupidest strawman yet.

Sure, some of these 94% people have advanced cancer and only had a life expectancy of a couple of months anyway, even though COVID expedited their deaths. But "comorbidity" also includes comorbidities that are completely manageable and people live their entire lives with before dying of something unrelated. If someone dies of sepsis, no one in their right mind says "Well, she was obese, so she would have died anyway". If someone dies of a heart attack, no one in their right mind says "Well, he had asthma, so he would have died anyway". But for some reason, this is fine with COVID, as if having any kind of comorbidity whatsoever means your life isn't worth living.

Cool opinion, bro. A single shred of evidence to back this up? No? Didn't think so.

Well, you don't really present evidence in an Internet forum. The best you do is present links to the evidence.

In your discussions with tvbcof alone, you have seen all kinds of evidence. But if you really WANT evidence, you can find loads of it here - https://thehighwire.com/ - and here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/.

Was wondering if you get sand in your eyes, nose, and mouth when you stick head in hole.

8)

No no no, you misunderstand. I said evidence, not the insane ramblings of far right conspiracy nuts on their vlogs. You know, randomized control trials, meta-analyses, systematic reviews, that kind of thing.

If you don't look, you'll never find the difference between the ramblings and the evidence, or the proof, that Del Bigtree offers. But you have to be serious about it. You won't find anything worthwhile if you go in with the idea that there isn't any evidence or proof.

8)

EDIT: I'll even be specific. Get on The Highwire email list, and every Monday, Del's people will send you the links to the actual studies that contradict what much of medical is saying. Many of these studies come from the CDC and the NIH.

Cool, you must have the links to these studies then. Post them here.

Ok I'll do it for BADecker:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-18-connecticut-govt-secretly-tells-health-care-workers-covid-vaccines-are-deadly.html

https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DDS/COVID-19_2021/DPH_covidvaccine_ingredients_and_work_2_3_21.pdf

https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/33474m.pdf

This thread is the strangest thread. It's like the votes of people are going make any difference between life and death.

Many people think the vaccines are okay. And that is their choice, no matter what their reasoning is based on. It's a good thing to trust a knowledgeable doctor.

What's strange is that the doctors at the CDC and their organization called VAERS say that vaccines kill people. In fact, they say that we have had over 4,000 deaths from the Covid vaccines so far in the US.

So, why vote? The question is answered right in VAERS, and the Harvard School of Medicine study that proves VAERS only gets less that 1% of the reports, death or otherwise.

What's really funny is the vote asks dead people to vote. About as serious as the CDC that there even is a Covid problem.

8)

I feel the voting choices in this thread is akin to a Jim Jones death cult where he wanted people to commit ritual suicide or like how the Mayans and other cultures would ritually sacrifice people for blood magic. I mean you can't vote "dead" the only logic choice is alive or alive with side affects/adverse reactions as the dead can't talk. Unless the the author is implying that the vaccines do turn people into zombies  :o?

I'm sorry that my thread doesn't meet your high standards but actually I'm not sorry nor do I give a shit. Go get vaccinated so you could answer the poll question. Or don't, just stay away from people lest you infect them.

Yeah but think if this is true and governments want to wast billions of people who do they want to waste.

1. Sheeple that follow the rules and make tons of money for the rich.
2. Freedom fighters that protest and run around with guns.

The reality is they would waste 2.

Not 1.

So if you are afraid of a plot to drop the worlds population you need to be a wolf 🐺 disguised as a sheeple.

So to all the freedom fighters anti vaxers read this post very carefully and place your bets on to vax or not to vax.

I am fully  pfizered 2 shots and tues the 18th of may is two weeks after the second shot.

I am a type 2 diabetic that uses diet to keep my a1c under 7.0
I am a life long asmathic  that controls my asthma with many many many airfilters.

And now I am so lucky as to be able to wears masks anywhere I want.

The type 95 are really good for my allergies pollen like trees and grass are bad for me.

I ask all anti vaxers to read this and I hope they make the right guess.

To vax or not to vax?

That is the question.

Good luck to all.

Note I am 64 .

If I remember I will post here in a month or so.

Btw my wife and I both had covid very early Say dec 2019 to Jan 2020.

She was in the hospital 2 times in 2020 and finally about 17 months after she got it she is close to normal.

None of those links are to studies or trials.

I notice BADecker is now ignoring the question. I wonder why. ::)

https://prnt.sc/137h13f
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nice work hooman.
regards,
AI

There is a study in the article done by the Salk institute about the spike proteins from COVID being present in the vaccine as well:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-07-salk-institute-reveals-the-covid-spike-protein-causing-deadly-blood-clots.html

"The research, published in the journal Circulation Research, concludes, “…we show that spike protein alone can damage vascular endothelial cells by downregulating ACE2 and consequently inhibiting mitochondrial function.”"

They can cause deadly blood clots.

Also in my previous post if you read the article which summates what is said by the Connecticut government to Health Care workers for the vaccines:

"Connecticut admits covid vaccines contain spike proteins, then claims they are harmless even while the Salk Institute confirms they can be deadly"

"Covid-19 vaccine ingredients include SM-102, a toxic substance known to be harmful to humans and animals"

"“Vaccine checklist” document secretly warns healthcare professionals the covid vaccine may KILL them, yet withholds this information from the public"

Disclaimer from the CT document: "I believe the benefits outweigh the risks and I voluntarily assume full responsibility for any reactions that may result from either my receipt of the immunization(s)…  Neither the provisioning mass vaccination center nor any of the Released Parties shall, at any time or to any extent whatsoever, be liable, responsible or any way accountable for any loss, injury, death or damage suffered or sustained by any person at any time in connection with or as a result of this vaccine program or the administration of the vaccines described above."

In addition, this document reveals the known adverse reactions from covid-19 vaccines, explaining they include:

Feelings of impending doom
Loss of consciousness
Disorientation, confusion, weakness
Diarrhea, nausea, vomiting
Flickering lights, tunnel vision.
Changes in hearing / loss of hearing


Bottom line, its ok to admit you were duped by the medical industrial complex (yes there is also a military industrial complex as well but no one talks about the medical one). I've been duped by them as my doctor recommended that I take Paxil it made me feel funny so I stopped taking it after a month. Years later I see TV ads about suing them for the adverse affects they caused (like vaccines). Its when you choose to no longer listen to them yourself that you become stronger than the so-called vaccine. Try alternatives see what results they bring. If they don't yield anything for you then go back to the medical industrial complex. For now you are a free person.

I mean, this has literally nothing to do with BADecker's obviously bullshit statement that hydroxychloroquine and zinc cures COVID, but well done for at least trying to discuss this intellectually.

Now, rather than read the spin put on the study by a conspiracy site with a heavy bias, I would invite you to read the study itself. You can find it here: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCRESAHA.121.318902

Please find where in that study they conclude that vaccinations are bad as you claim. Hint: They don't.

Let's look at what they do actually conclude:


So vaccines protect against endothelial injury. So the exact opposite of what the "Natural News" scam site claims.

None of what links?

Sign up with The Highwire, and every Monday they will email you links to the various medical and other sites they took their info from. In addition, they almost always try to give you the website of any doctor or professional they interview, right during the interview.

All you have to do is compare the CDC sites to what these professionals are saying, to see that the CDC lies all over the place. But you don't have to go that far. All you have to do is compare CDC stuff with other CDC stuff. The CDC contradicts itself all over the place.

Simply look at how many time Dr. Fauci contradicts himself about wearing or not wearing masks.

... Or, you could continue as usual, with head in hole in sand.

8)

So what you are saying is that there is definitely loads of evidence, but you just can't link to literally any of it, and the only way for me to access it is to give a conspiracy nut job my contact details. That sounds reliable for sure. ::)

But what is linking to evidence? What does it mean?

For example, franky1 (and others) linked to some NIH sites that were supposed to have info on virus isolation. So, I went to several of the sites - full of studies - and studied them to find the isolation-being-done part. But everything that they said was always something like, "We did the isolation, and here's the info," and they showed nothing about anybody actually doing anything. All they did was to say it was done.

You simply aren't interested, or you are trolling. But just to keep you a little happy, I'll throw out a few Highwire, Monday links from a previous, Highwire Thursday video. You would actually have to watch the video to see what was talked about so you know the significance of the links. All you need to do is sign up with them, and they will send you a list like this every Monday.

You're so interested, of course. Why not join? You don't have to watch any videos, ever, if you don't want. And they will let you cancel any time you want. Remember, the below is from just one of their video shows.


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NAA CONFERENCE (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/58018280:so338VdNB:m:1:2339260181:EE7004B202D6B8B7C2A0233F846A1416:r)


I really wish that you and a few others in this forum could see beyond your noses.

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Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid and pleasing each other till you realize what the adverse affects these vaccines really have. Perhaps, your body has fought off the possible adverse affects of the first batch of the vaccine but they want you to get a booster shot? After you get the booster shot don't you think they will tell you to get another one? And so on and so on... You get the idea it never ends until you say enough is enough. The government and media are just here to help just like with the "free COVID money" which will erode your purchasing power. The media lying to you about poison pharma and other fallen products selling you on propaganda and falsehoods. At some point you have to say is enough is enough with these awful people that want to run your life.

Mighty ironic considering that you choose to believe some random dipshits on the internet and their deluded misinterpretation of (or just flat-out lies about) scientific research. Hint: not everything that fits your paranoia is real.

Meanwhile I'm still not dead and according to BADecker there should be 250 million people dying in the US over the next 5 years... I did some math and based on those numbers morgues around here should be overflowing by > 10x but I'm not seeing bodies stacked into huge piles in the adjacent parking lots so I'm gonna need a new "explanation". Where do all these dead people end up? Just evaporate without trace? Can I expect cheap real estate soon since there should be so many vacant houses?

@BADecker,

I wonder how difficult it can be to be a doctor and see someone like @BADecker, definitely your doctor must be a person who takes a lot of pills to calm his nerves when you go to see him for a consultation and if you were president of any country? definitely the number of deaths and people with mental problems would increase to the point of breaking the biggest world record ever

I'm at least saying you will not die during this batch of vaccines as shown in the flesh and gloat by your presence but perhaps by the booster shot or another vaccine thrust upon you just to do business? I'm just saying that there is a possibility you will have an adverse reaction that can lead to negative consequences to your body that could lead to death but are more than likely debilitating or lower your quality of life. I'm just saying this is all too convenient a few years before all of this they were posting news articles on being able to cure the common cold or scientifically known as a "coronavirus" with vaccines. COVID-19 is a powerful variant of the cold virus coincidence?

Perhaps you are right and it is all in my head and I should just listen blindly to the government and big media for everything. I should just convert my Crypto back to fiat for the lowest price.... because the IRS is cracking down on it. I love the media it always tells me the truth. Crypto is going nowhere because they tell me it to be true I only have one logic choice like in this poll. One opinion, no dissent I want to think like a hive minded neo-feudal serf.  Lol :D :D :D NOT!!! It is 2030  "I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better"

https://www.forbes.com/sites/worldeconomicforum/2016/11/10/shopping-i-cant-really-remember-what-that-is-or-how-differently-well-live-in-2030/?sh=39b8d51a1735

At least I told you what they want next if you can gleam anything at all from my satire. I see your logic about cheap houses and no you won't be able to buy up those houses because you'll own nothing because the elite deem it to be so unless you fight back with the truth and say enough is enough. Not only that but as I said before the human body is very strong until its immune system or other major systems are compromised so I think people will live there will just be more diseases that are relevant than were in times past. Take cancer for instance 50-60 years ago it wasn't a wide spread occurrence in the general population but in select areas now it is seen everywhere. Also autism why is that going up? Chemicals and other toxins like SM-102 in this new vaccine...

It's starting already. This is the better way to hide the vaccine dead. You lucked out is all.

Go to the site and check the many reference links, and the emphases.


Now 20 US states liquefy vaccine-murdered people and spread their flesh goo on food crops as “fertilizer” (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-17-20-us-states-liquefy-vaccine-murdered-people-and-spread-their-flesh-goo-on-food-crops.html#)

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No need to worry for the poor doctors. Those doctors are sick enough already. Why go to visit them? Wanna catch what they got? Not me. You go take my share. Besides, the insurance companies will soon drop doctors liability insurance for cause.


PETITION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/305050-2021-05-20-petition-for-temporary-restraining-order.htm)




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And yet people live longer and longer and longer... how is that possible in the midst of this vaccine-induced doom?


Beautiful, thank you. I assume these liquefying locations are like notbatman's wall around Antarctica - definitely existing, must be humongous, impossible to find.

Not quite that trend has reversed for poor and middle class people their life expectancy has dwindled but for those that have money sure you are right or live in country where it is rising:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jun/23/why-is-life-expectancy-falling

https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-low


https://theday.co.uk/stories/western-life-expectancy-slows-in-lost-decade

do vaccines kill people?  Surely.  But not getting vaccinated kills people too.  Personally, I prefer that everyone in society except me gets vaccinated.  Then I don't have to risk getting any diseases AND I don't run the risk of an adverse reaction to the vaccine.

I am not interested in the opinions of random morons on the Internet. I am interested in hard, clinical data.

1st link - News article. Not a trial.
2nd link - News article. Not a trial.
3rd link - Governor of Florida announcement. Not a trial.
4th link - News article. Not a trial.
5th link - Florida bill. Not a trial.
6th link - Guidance for pharmacists on the handling of gene therapies. Not a trial.
7th link - Letter to the editor. Not a trial.
8th link - News article. Not a trial.

I got bored after that. Please come back with the clinical trials you promised here:

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Maybe. Because I understand that viruses mutate. Just like how I get the flu vaccine every year.

And yet, I'm the one looking at the hard data, and you're the one using a scam site which pedals bottles of snake oil for $100 each.

You're right viruses mutate but your body at least I hope has an immune system after taking the vaccine. What I'm saying is they want to feed you propaganda that you need something when your body regulates this automatically but perhaps you have a weakened immune system to be desiring to obtain the flu vaccine and even this one. Really, natural supplements would have bolster you're immune system but you choose the pharma vaccine treatment (although you could argue the supplements are merely a treatment as well). Anyway, the best way I can exemplify the way they really sell you things is the following example:

So lets say a person eats a lot of sugary foods and fast foods (cause). They eat them because they are plentiful and convenient so this person develops diabetes (problem) due to this and has to take insulin (solution). The solution is merely a treatment and not a cure and would not have come about if the person didn't eat sugary foods. What they want to do is create a problem then sell you the solution. The thing that irks me about the COVID vaccine is unlike the flu vaccine which was voluntary; the COVID vaccine is suddenly mandatory to do commerce? I feel that is too forceful when this virus is not even like Ebola. It only kills people with a weakened immune system that have lack the necessary daily nutrients the body needs. Viruses kill people all the time with a weakened immune system due to age or dietary deficiencies. 

The 3.5 million people who have died from COVID don't seem to be "regulating" things very well.

I am absolutely certain you'll be able to provide some hard data to support this statement. ::)

Covid is a wisp of the imagination that nobody knows about. It certainly isn't a virus that anybody knows. Why not? It hasn't been isolated... separated out from everything else it is mixed with... so that we can even know what it is.

Since most people think it's important, why aren't there videos and lab reports all over the place, of researchers explaining their doing of the isolation process as they do it? I mean, if there are that many dead from it, why no videos of somebody finding the little bugger, according to Koch's and Rivers' Postulates, the best way to separate one of them out for a fact?

The whole thing is a lie. What people are dying from is years and years of poisoning, some of it by junk food, some of it by vaccines, much of it by bad placebo effect (which you are promoting in your post), and weakened immune systems, from simply doing evil.

Covid isn't a virus... at least in any way that it is hurting anyone. Rather, it's a method for Big Pharma to make more money through a bunch of lies.

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The 3.5 million people who have died from COVID don't seem to be "regulating" things very well.
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I am actually agreeing with you here they have reported that these people have died of COVID. Some of which is just to get the money from the emergency management funds and insurance companies. You realize that in a population of 7.8 billion (2020) people and your number of 3.5 million is  a drop in the bucket and is considerably normal rate for morbidity with that many people in world. If it was 350 million then it would be a shocker. If you bothered to read my post "this virus kills the weak and the old" (paraphrasing myself).


Ok so you want hard data? How about Vitamin C? Do you think it doesn't help you? WebMD: "Though it may not be the cure for the common cold, the benefits of vitamin C may include protection against immune system deficiencies, cardiovascular disease, prenatal health problems, eye disease, and even skin wrinkling."

https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/the-benefits-of-vitamin-c#1

Also the British would put lime juice into their grog for their Naval soldier and the limes contained vitamin C which was not shared knowledge with other countries such as Spain as their soldiers would die of scurvy. The British soldiers were slang nicknamed with the term "Limey"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limey

At this point we're just arguing just to argue. You're gonna believe what you want and I will believe what I want. The truth is out there search for it and you will find it in strange places. Don't put your mind in the cloud of the media or government as you will become a slave/serf to their means if you do.

Incorrect.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/
https://jvi.asm.org/content/94/11/e00543-20
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247524
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN908947

Incorrect.
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

If you don't understand the difference between preventing scurvy and curing COVID, then that's on you.

I don't "believe" anything in this case. I understand the facts. That's all.

There are 6 ghosts voting in the poll  ::)

Scary how dead people can open their phone/computers, open bitcointalk.org and click this specific thread just to vote "DEAD" lmao

They're not dead. They are the Elders. Check out Timothy Zahn's Conquerors sci-fi series - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=Conquerors+by+timothy+zahn&ia=web.

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This is a very technical question which we can not come to a totally conclusion without a well convinced fact. The virus was nation wide, that affected many sources of living which the world is till yet to recover from. So many medical professionals sacrificed their time, many stayed away from their family and love ones.i believe Finding the vaccine was a contribute effort from professional medical practitioners.

It's  a little hard to concur that the vaccine will be issue out without proper medical examinations to know  the side effects on human health. Just like I said previously In this kind of situation it's good to pin your points down on a well  satisfied fact. The virus also affected some high classed personalities that  also took the vaccines. We all know everyone takes life important.

Some of us has now returned back  to our businesses  and life styles, that's as a result of the effort made to reduce the spread of the virus. there should be considering that the vaccine is still for the betterment of the infected individuals.

I do not disagree with all the points made here. I am only say that before we make any conclusions on what's what. Our fact should finalized not based on personal assumptions or propaganda. Our conclusions should be driving towards other public opinions, it's also good that our source of Information should be globally recognized.

This my point of view. Let's keep reasoning together.

Okay. Let's.

Covid is important. So, where are the thousands of detailed reports from the ongoing isolation of the Covid virus. Not just detailed "we did it"'s. But the videos where the isolation is thoroughly being done in front of the camera?... with explanations by the researchers doing it?

Maybe there isn't any Covid virus isolation, and the whole thing is something else other than a virus.

Either they don't know what it is and are lying to us, or they do know and aren't telling us. But how can we be so gullible as to accept them and their vaccines without proof?

The whole point of vaccines killing people isn't really what this thread is about. The CDC has already admitted to that in their VAERS reports - https://www.openvaers.com/. The point of this thread is really that they keep on killing and maiming people with their so-called vaccines.

Consider any company that produces a product. If one or two people died from their product, they would shut their whole operation down until they cleared up the problem. Not the vaccine companies. Just the opposite for them. The more people their vaccines kill and maim, the more they are out there selling their death to the people.

So, what you are really trying to do is turn the whole vaccine death thing into a talk-game.

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The flu vaccine, at least as I understand it, is not a booster shot, but is rather something that protects against the mutated version of the flu going around that year. Or something close to the above description.

I understand a booster shot to be something along the lines of getting your body to continue making antibodies so that if the virus does enter into your system, your immune system can quickly defeat the virus.

On a slightly unrelated note, the response to covid has made the flu almost (https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm) not a problem. For example, hospitalizations related to the flu are down 90% from the prior low point, which was during the 2011-12 flu season, on a per population basis. 

But but but, the poll question is clearer than the windshields of your trucks

Nah not interested to scifi movies made before I was even born.

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For me every people had a different Genes or unique instruction of the body like me. I've been vaccinated  last 3 months  and now still alive and healthy . Before I vaccinated they give me some procedure and I undergo of an Home quarantine.

Note that suchmoon wants a vote, like he thinks that voting is going to make what happens regarding Covid and the jabs.

Other than that, I wish some of the dead-from-Covid people could get in here and vote.

Another researcher who has determined that (essentiall) all Covid vaccinated will be dead in 5 years (two years). It's a bit difficult to follow how this is being said in the Wiki article. But it's there.


All Vaccinated people will die within 2 years (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/305192-2021-05-23-all-vaccinated-people-will-die-within-2-years.htm)




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indeed there are some people who are not suitable for this covid vaccine
Recently there has been an issue of the AstraZeneca vaccine causing many deaths, I don't really agree because 3 days ago I was injected with it

the point is that each person's DNA structure is unique, there may be some who die from the vaccine but that is because of the body's genetic response errors maybe

^^^ Yes, but, whatever is going wrong, if the products of any other company happened to kill a handful of people, they'd shut down, and take their products off the market until a full investigation was done.

Yet, the CDC through VAERS admits to over 4,000 deaths in the USA alone from the vaccines - https://www.openvaers.com/. Read through the home page carefully, and you will see how the medical is showing us that the number might be over 400,000.

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Vaccines do not kill people, to develop each vaccine humanity should wait for a long time, it is not something easy to develop a vaccine which is going to be given to the mass. You can read about the history of vaccines to see that some vaccines took more than 15 years to be developed

I'm still afraid to get vaccinated actually. Even if they are saying its safe but I doubt getting a vaccine until maybe the rest of the world got vaccinated already, then I can go out of my cave and enjoy life without a vaccine.

CDC had been covering everything they've done in the past, lots of anomalies accounted but no truth is actually revealed to the public. I do believe there is truth to this corona virus since its evolving flu but the for the longest time, they knew flu had been around for centuries but they never really found out the truth about it.

Only 5000 out of 90 million Africans have opted for the Coronavirus vaccine. - https://www.brighteon.com/af2783f1-d98d-4368-a038-29315133327d.


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I'm still alive, if for no other reason than to piss BADecker off.

Not quite sure why that merits a sunglasses emoji, but anyway...

Africa has administered 59% (https://reliefweb.int/report/world/africas-lack-vaccine-not-only-reason-slow-vaccine-rollout) of its vaccine supply (as of June 2nd 2021). And whilst there is certainly a degree of vaccine hesitancy, there are, as you might expect (or, rather, as anyone else might expect), other factors involved...

https://reliefweb.int/report/world/africas-lack-vaccine-not-only-reason-slow-vaccine-rollout

Sorry, but BADecker's clock for vaccinated death has increased from 2-3 months to within 2 years now.

My relatives (a family of 5) has been alive after being vaccinated since january/February so that counts as about 5 to 6 months already

I cannot really state clearly if it kills or not But;

There has been serious complaints from those who have taken the vaccine, and such has been
1. I slept all day after the first vaccine.
2. I find it difficult to use the hand after the vaccine was given

So with these complaints, it might be hard on some person's which could eventually lead to Death at last.

You are absolutely right. Feeling a bit sleepy and having a numb arm for a few hours are absolutely unacceptable side effects for a life saving vaccine! What if I drop a glass of water and have to clean it up!? What if I fall asleep and miss the second half of The Bachelorette!? I'd rather take my chances of dying on a ventilator than live a life where I don't know who gets a rose!

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You can put me down as another one who is firmly still alive following the vaccine. And believe me I am still alive. I'm doing science and I'm still alive. I feel FANTASTIC and I'm still alive.

Lol.  Last month you were doing 'medicine'...and of course trolling a crypto-currency forum bobbing for pennies with footer spam.

Try to overcome your fear of needles, don't let it kill you:

https://kidshealth.org/en/teens/tips-shots.html

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 |  The Joke  |  <-----  'Doctor' OILEO
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Why get so upset about a joke going over your head, when basic facts have been going over your head since second grade?

What makes you think I'm upset?  Perhaps you are assuming that my reaction would be similar to yours?

  Yes it's true some feedback of the people who got Vaccine's are being hided cause they will scared to open up in the community so that the people might be scared to take to the Vaccine. An it will be the reason why people don't have an interest to take Vaccine cause they saw in social media about people who got Vaccine's and die cause their body can not fight the immune of the Vaccine's ,some people also who completed the dosage of the Vaccine was  very happy and after that many few days their body reacts something until their body can't stand alone.

one thing is for sure. my body is fine without that covid vaccine  :P

Although i did not get vaccinated, i know a lot of people who got vaccinated. Some suddenly collapsed and their body got weakened even though they're very healthy before the injection of the vaccine for the safety of covid-19 virus. The second dose was even more worse but at the end of the day they are still doing great. They only suffered a little but none of them died ,(my neighbors and relatives).

Many people gossips and telling romurs that a vaccine could kill a person however i don't think that it can kill a person. Regardless there's still a 20% chance that it could, in my own perspective. Maybe it depends on what type of vaccine you've got injected and if you have a weak body already that could not be good for you. It's best to avoid it since it could be critical to you.

As long as there's a chance for you to avoid, you have to avoid it especially when you're not sure whether you'd like to get vaccinated or not. it's best to observe first before actually running cause you might fall down the cliff without knowing

"Who is this irresistible creature who has an insatiable love for the dead?"

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/AromaticBossyBlackbird-mobile.jpg
"gather around non-believers and witness a miracle"
https://music-tv.icu/images/rob-zombie-living-dead-girl_upqymh2b/160.jpg

Rob Zombie - Living Dead Girl (Official Video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvsMPOfblfg



*insert emoji laughing with tears streaming

Absurd. That would mean 30+ million people would be dead just in the US. You really need to learn how to make up stupid numbers. For example BADecker, our resident conspiraspammer, claims that everyone who takes the vaccine will die within 2 years or later. That's sufficiently scary to those who need a daily fear diet but otherwise meaningless.

Meanwhile I'm still alive.

Certainly. And the best way to observe is to look at the data, rather than shouting a random and inexplicable "20%".

We are a year and a half into this thing. There are vast vast quantities of data available to anyone who cares to look.

Here you go, an interactive chart measuring Covid vaccinations against Covid deaths: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccinations-vs-covid-death-rate
Go to the link, look at the data, hover over a particular country to see it in isolation. Click to view the data sources and see how the chart is put together. Analyse trends. Consider any complicating factors (such as the rise of the Delta variant). Try to decide whether vaccination against Covid is a good thing. Knock yourself out.*

https://i.imgur.com/tt4bRW1.jpg





* Just don't claim it's a side effect of the vaccine.

So far,i have not seen covid19 vaccine as a drugs that can kill, rather it relieves people from their illness.Yeah,it is true rumours  are saying that the vaccine kills after some years,or the vaccine will kill after a certain period of time.
Before administering it on patients,it has been tested and confirmed that the drug is good and can be giving to humans,
Vaccines are also of different types,there are some vaccines that has great side effect on anybody who takes it. but before a drug is taken,it is good that the drugs should have passed all the stages and processes of testing if the drug is ok or not.

My mother already got her first dose and she's doing fine.

I'v completed the registration and waiting to get vaccinated.
In my opinion, vaccines are safe.

Just checking in to report that I'm still alive.

Also I have good news for the dominant Bitcointalk demographic of alpha males:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/covid-19-may-impair-mens-sexual-performance


So get the vaccine. Or don't, if taking yourself out of the gene pool is your goal.

I'm still not, but I'm hoping my third vaccine will at least reanimate my corpse or something.

Avoiding the vaccine is also literally making them stupider (if it doesn't kill them), and God knows they really can't afford for that to happen.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00324-2/fulltext

Wait, taking them out of the gene pool might be a good thing, thus making them not be able to pass their, ehem, stupidity, to their supposed to be predecessors.


That won't be enough for them, they need like, "I'm still alive, and well, and doing sports, and no side effects as like being bed ridden."

It still didn't bring me down to the level where I would be stupid enough to even consider getting the experimental gene therapy.  Thankfully I started at a sufficiently high level so it seems.  Perhaps testosterone protects a guy as I seem to be good-to-go.

So THAT'S why the people who died from the vaxx in the VAERS reports don't say, "I'm still alive, and well, and doing sports, and no side effects as like being bed ridden."

https://openvaers.com/covid-data

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Yo, I'm here after watching Project Veritas "vaccine is full of sh*t"
Now I'm more reluctant to get a jab, yes my ass is still virgin!

COVID-19: Indonesia death rate in under-18s more than three times the world average (https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-indonesia-death-rate-in-under-18s-more-than-three-times-the-world-average-12394947)
Because of vaccine? I thought covid only dangerous for old people.

And the good news is that it will likely remain virgin because: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/covid-19-may-impair-mens-sexual-performance


So you link to an article about COVID-19 deaths and your first thought is "because of vaccine?". They hadn't even rolled out COVID vaccination for children when those high rates of deaths were reported.


It's dangerous to everyone. More dangerous to old people and people with certain preexisting conditions but it's by no means harmless to others.

People have heard from government and the medical, all about getting vaxxed, that they have forgotten that there has to be a reason for vaxxing. With Covid being easily cured by Ivermectin, HCQ, simple vitaminD, Budesonid, vitamin C = zinc, etc. - ass seen in India, South America, Africa, and many other places - there is no reason for the vaxx. But people have been so forced to look at the vaxx to the exclusion of all else, that they have forgotten all about the reason for it. Now it's all about the vaxx, and not about Covid any longer.

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No, it's not easily cured. And some of the stuff you're peddling is dangerous:

https://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/local/new-mexico/2021/09/22/nm-vaccination-rate-increases-as-covid-19-delta-variant-spreads/5814609001/



Not sure how seeing ass in different places can help here... enjoyable as it may be I'm still gonna say no, it doesn't cure COVID-19. Get vaccinated first, then go on ass sightseeing.

Yes, right at the peak of Dunning-Kruger's Mount Stupid.

Just in case anyone was wondering, this site is pseudoscientific nonsense, just like all of BADecker's other links.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8mm3/this-woman-secretly-runs-one-of-the-worlds-biggest-anti-vax-websites-from-her-house

All you need do is follow her links to various NIH websites to see that she is right about the deaths. So, slandering her is thread off-topic. If you have something against her personally, why don't you take it up with her? All your slander does is prove that you can't find anything legit against what she says.

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What she says is false and that's probably why you're linking to her site and not to the source data directly, which has this disclaimer, basically invalidating all your conjectures:

The data is unverified, reportable by anyone, and proves no correlation. Reporting it as fact is the most basic confirmation bias, which even the most junior scientist or basic scientific study would control for. I'm not really surprised anti-vaxxers don't understand that, though.

Exactly the point. Somebody, please show the video process of a virus being isolated, with the researcher doing it explaining the whole process. Then let's get it for the SARS-CoV-2 virus. I'm talking the true isolation, here. Not the place where some researcher takes a computer code of the virus genome, or whatever, and takes a bunch of stuff and makes a virus out of it.

The BIG point is that, hundreds of American researchers should have done this by now, and should have published their work all over the place including Youtube.

I mean, Covid is important, right? It's not simply he sniffles, right? So, where is even one video of the whole isolation process being done that anybody can see? Without it, we should all be guessing if the whole Covid thing isn't a lie... and then the vaxx as well.

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Brandolini's Law aka The BS Asymmetry Principlehttps://img.ifunny.co/images/734cf60595c165c6f7ab9c458f94761cb50790d5268ee537bbc3060ec2bcb9a4_1.jpg
*funniest most relevant version

Woman, day care teacher, 20 YEARS OLD, dies of Covid after being intubated.

Vaccine status was not disclosed by her mother, probably for a reason - see how she looks in the picture? Granted she was 20, obesity kills. Anecdotal stories and evidence is still anecdotal, and 20 year olds are generally not at high risk. But, obesity will complicate conditions.

I can see why a 20 year old would not get vaccinated, perhaps unwilling to accept their own vulnerabilities like their weight. This does not change the data, it just adds the adjective "healthy" somewhere in the phrase of "low mortality for 20 year olds."

You do realize that real scientists doing actual science publish their results in reputable peer-reviewed journals, and not on a site made for sharing videos of Janet Jackson's breast? I've linked you multiple times in the past to databases of literally hundreds of thousands complete genome sequencings and their methods from many different strains of COVID, but that's not good enough for you apparently because none of them started with "Hey, remember to share, like, and subscribe and a quick shout out to our sponsor, Raid: Shadow Legends!" ::)

Nice dodging of the original question and not addressing the fact that all your sources are full of shit, though.

I've taken the vaccines and have absolutely no side effects from it. There is no reason to fear the vaccine. In fact, if you contract the COVID-19 there might be a lot of other side effects from the after effects of the virus.

I did wonder why I often felt tired after posting in P&S. Or even before posting, just contemplating the thought of pulling together lots of evidence and scientific studies to refute the latest "horse dewormer cures Covid!" nonsense.

I think you've nailed it.

It's amazing how rapidly you can churn out bullshit when you don't care about facts, evidence, logic, or even being coherent. It's the intellectual equivalent of bounty spammers.

It's amazing that you have the chutzpah show your face after being wrong about everything and with insiders and whistleblowers coming out of the woodwork confirming everything we 'anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorists' have been saying for a year and a half now.  And, of course, the 'vaccine' doesn't work for shit except to make a lot more people die a lot faster.

You're tired from posting because, even though you might be a habitual liar, your body can't take the lies you force it into doing.

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You know, spouting bullshit with no basis in reality isn't exactly a great argument against the fact that you spout bullshit with no basis in reality. Nice try, though.

Looks like you accidentally snipped the text you were replying to.  You make that mistake a lot, and it reflects poorly on your messaging skills.  I kindly added it back for you just to give a brother a hand, and so that others wouldn't be so mystified on what was so important to you that you had to make a whole post about it.

PS; Got 'bounty spamming' on your mind, eh?  It's a good fit with merit-point circle-jerking predilections.

I always snip entire posts when replying to them, since there is no need to clutter up a thread with the same text twice. Although I suppose it is completely predictable that anti-vaxxers would have such a difficult time understanding something so basic like quote links.

Nice dodging of the fact that you spout bullshit with no supporting evidence, though. You and BADecker are really good at this!

If you are so concerned about saving two lines of text, feel free to quite spamming everyone with your scammy coin mixer advert.

Feel free to quit spamming everyone with your obviously bullshit claims. Or you know, provide a single piece of evidence* for any of them, as I've asked you to dozens of times.

*A fellow lunatic ranting on bitchute is not evidence.

No, its tiring to says the same things such as "PROVIDE A VALID DATA/EVIDENCE to SUPPORT YOUR CLAIMS", yet nothing comes

Plus it is tiring to look for datas to counter unsupported claims, when it will be disregarded because the other party doesn't want to read it....

P&S is becoming a blog for unsupported datas.

Oh, also the repetition of unsupported "evidence" posted that was already debunked multiple times already is tiring to read. Like is there nothing new in this P&S

Not surprised that your not familiar with researchgate.net and the like.  Don't worry about it since you are unlikely to be able to understand most of it.  Just stick with coin mixer scamming and trading merit points with your juvi fiends.


'bitchute' is just a neutral media sharing platform.  Media can be posted there and on other platforms simultaneously, and most of what I reference is.

The reason these platforms have increased in popularity is that it is Jewtube policy to dis-allow ANY content which would discourage the goyim from becoming what Psaki referrers to as 'marked' by the gene therapy jab.  The factual accuracy of the content is not a factor.  Jewtube is good enough for cat vids and all manners of pro-jab propaganda from the celebrity doctors that you like so much, but for real information it is useless.

The typical "my source is the truth, and the truth only" statement of anyone who can't possibly argue with peer-reviewed research studies. lmao

Cool. Now give me a researchgate link which says the vaccine is gene therapy or any of your other bullshit.

As per YouTube and Bitchute, I'll just repeat what I said above since apparently you didn't actually read it.

All you need for that is the wayback machine at archive.org; the companies were proud as hell of their gene therapy until marketing research indicated that it wasn't a good sales pitch for the plandemic.  Best to go with the string 'vaccine' and nothing more because they already had legal indemnity for maiming people with that.

I just re-activated the thread with the speech from Moderna honcho Tal Zaks crowing about 'hacking the software of life'.  Feel free to try to argue that it wasn't the same technology that they are now calling a 'vaccine' if you are a real glutton for punishment.

More deflection. Zero links.  ::)

Here's a good article from a reliable source

https://www.britannica.com/list/the-top-covid-19-vaccine-myths-spreading-online

Read it and calm down. Don't worry, the world is not so evil as you think. Normally, evil is ignorance and that's why evil people rarely make it to the celebrity doctors.

There's no such thing as a reliable source for anti-vaxxers, no matter what information they are presented with, they won't believe a single sentence. Instead, they'll simply reply with a post from some stupid blogspot website or YouTube video of some random guy, "debunking" all scientists involved in the pandemic and the development of vaccines.

The britannica.com material is text-book 'fact-check' nonsense targeting very low-functioning people.  I've seen all these techniques before ('debunking' something that people are not saying is a big one.)  I'm not in the low-functioning category and the material is a joke.

More and more of this type of sides pop-up. Victim storys after being shot.
https://nomoresilence.world/
All cause deaths above average in lots of places, some 25% above 5 year average.

Karma can be a bitch!
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=MNUH7AWU61RU

You're just proving my point, although, you didn't post any links from those so-called websites you anti-vaxxers read, that's surprising. The Britannica article has all its sources hyperlinked already in the text, however, I don't see you proving anything you're claiming. You're only capable of flaming other users that aren't supporting your non-existent claims.

Do vaccines kill people?


Only if they are brain-dead enough, already, to take the vaxx. So, it might not matter much.


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I don't think vaccines kill but there could be a possibility that it could lead to some symptoms that could lead to death if it is not compatible with one's body. There is no harm in taking vaccine but sometimes we don't know what those that had taken it are facing so it is important to ask questions about how they felt. Vaccine will not kill you if you take it but always know that you area one step of becoming symptomized.

Yeah. It's so much more comfortable to not believe the CDC when they say that there's over 15,000 deaths from the vaxxes already - https://openvaers.com/covid-data - and the Lazarus report that shows that VAERS is only reporting less than 1% - https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf.

I mean, if you die fast right after getting the vaxx, you won't have any time to move out of your comfort zone.

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EDIT: Probably the best people to give the vaxx to are people on death row, immediately before they are executed.

Have you considered doing so one day?

Oh chee tell them:
https://nomoresilence.world/
or this people
https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/                                                                                                         
another thousand
https://1000covidstories.com/   

Once is enough. Stop spamming your garbage on every page.


Same goes for you, sparky.

Sorry. Can't help you, there. I don't even know where the "Ignore" button is to tell you; I never use it, myself.

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In other words, all you have is words coming from yourself without support from your own source? Show your publicly available research sources, and maybe you can have a credibility  ;)

P.S. I clearly stated RESEARCH so please don't show your favorite chute or any articles that doesn't even have valid data's

Jesus Christ but you are one lazy and stupid motherfucker!  There is an entire thread on this very board which is up near the top lately:

  Moderna's Top Scientist: 'We Are Actually Hacking the Software of Life' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5323746.0)

You can watch a presentation by the guy himself which is linked in the very first post.

Lol.

CONFIRMED: The Jab is a classified weapon
https://truth11.com/2021/09/25/confirmed-the-jab-is-a-classified-weapon/
The pfizer shot really is a “classified state of the art U.S. weapons system.”

Or maybe, rather than the FDA for some reason using redaction codes from the US military, they use their own redaction codes?

(b)(4) simply means the information is confidential commercial information.

Unless you think that "jerky pet treats" are also a secret classified US weapons system? https://www.fda.gov/media/84973/download

Lol, you anti-vaxxers really will believe any old shit without a second thought or a single piece of critical thinking.

Edit:
Double lol. This is what passes for "research" in the eyes of an anti-vaxxer. I guess BiG pHaRmA really are hiding secret 5G controlled death lasers in dog treats now. Hahahaha.

Good research.  Likely a fairly accurate view of what is going on.  I myself figured that the only thing powerful enough to allow Pfizer to hide the ingredients of a supposedly 'approved' injection would be 'national security', so research purported to unravel to this stage is not a surprise.

As I am prone to do, I try to do the propagandists job for them and cook up an excuse which will fly with the tards.  Not only fly, but be 'obvious' to them and further cement their confidence in the loving embrace of Big Brother (corp/gov).  So...


...of course, in the spirit of 'defense', the military industrial complex loaned helpful technology which will save the world to Pfizer (and the others as well.)  But it's top secret stuff and only a 'un-patriotic conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer' would desire to know what it actually is.  We can prove our patriotism by rolling up our sleeves without asking any questions.


Now 'patriotism' only goes so far, and by definition not beyond national borders (even if mostly vestigial ones.)  Many third-world countries who are owned by the IMF and World Bank and live off 'special drawing rights' already outsource their 'science' to the U.S. FDA and friends.  Whatever these organizations say about local healthcare practices is gospel and it's not healthy (economically or on some cases physically) for local politicos to question it.  Patriotism-by-proxy.  Never mind that it is national security policy of mothership to 'manage' population levels in said subservient nation.

https://sketchplanations.com/

this site will help :-)

I felt alive, then came to P&S and lost hope for humanity ;D ;D :-\ ;D (just for a sec though)

I felt that people might be breaking free of their pseudo-intellectual jail cells, then a hoard of people like you showed up on the Bitcointalk forum.

Oh well.  The herd is getting stronger in number, more synchronized, and moving faster as it is guided toward the cliff.  Better plans can be made by having a more accurate understanding of the landscape.  So; 'thanks'.

Probably all vaccines kill a few people at least. Many people are harmed by all vaxxes. Vaxxes might actually work for some people, but good nutrition and hygiene work better.

Note that the mRNA gene adjustment serum that is call the Covid vaxx, is not really a vaccine at all.

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Timeframe is right in the 5 to 6 month mark.
I say chances are higher then 50% we never hear from him again.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307207.msg57843607#msg57843607
The Covid "vaccine" is russian roulette.

Asking if vaccines are killing people is like asking if oxygen is killing people.

There are good medical products and there are bad products.

https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/prescription-drugs/gardasil-lawsuit/

This one (Gardasil) killed tens of thousands of people. If you think all vaccines are good, go find one and stab yourself with it.

Leana Wen (born Wen Linyan, Rhodes Scholar, CFR member, CNN go-to for a talking head):

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/JWlOjt2FpeHc/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/JWlOjt2FpeHc/)

What she seems to be saying is that she, as a vaxed/marked, will be a super-spreader when _she_ gets the covaids infection, and then put her unvaxxed family at risk.

Ergo, the unvaxxed are a danger to her and other vaxxed people because if she catches the coviads from them she is more of a risk to others due to her vaxxed status.

Left unsaid is why, since the vaxxed are super-spreaders, would she not be more likely to catch it from one of them?  But most people cannot really think about such complexities.

Anyway, I hope people can follow the logic here.  Seems pretty clear that the expectation is that, for a normie, their minds will shut down and go into 'reject further input' mode at first stages of any indication of a need for logical reasoning.  Thus, she and her fellow mainstream normie-land media talking heads can spout off anything they like...and be assumed by the sheeple to be brilliant beacons of light and hope for humanity.  Sadly, it works very well.

If you think that everyone who stops posting on this forum is dead then this is a very deadly forum. Survival rate is less than 10% of users who register here and that predates COVID-19 by many years.

I think my poll is more accurate than your estimate.

No-one has ever suggested that vaccines are 100% effective and confer immortality. No-one has ever suggested that everyone is a suitable candidate for receiving a vaccine, which is why there is screening of candidates.
Vaccination is not an all-or-nothing question, though. Does taking a tested, approved Covid vaccine on average, in general, confer better protection than doing nothing? Indisputably, yes. Look at the data.


Please quantify.


Being fit and healthy obviously confers an advantage, just not as much as the vaccine. But, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Why not do both? It's not an either/or situation.


Not sure where you've plucked this one from. Citation needed. Proper citation, not youtube wacko.

 
Not entirely agree with the lengthy Spartacus COVID Letter, if anyone interrested here it is:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral

Leana Wen is a propagandist who deserves to have whatever phony license she holds revoked. I've never seen someone plastered on TV screens at such a high rate to spread blatant falsehoods.

Per CDC published data, <200 5-11 year olds have died of Covid in 1.5 years, yet this deranged "professional" claims that muzzling of children through usage of surgical face masks should continue unless every child has gotten vaccinated, in addition to low community case load, in addition to *daily* testing.

I always love to point to her when folks say "listen to the experts."

Because this expert not once has cited any data when considering any guidelines related to children, yet she is providing commentary that is meant to be taken seriously. Fear mongering for headlines is her call to fame.

According to the CDC, the flu is deadlier to children than Covid during some aggressive flu seasons. Not my words, the CDC. Wonder if Leana Wen was calling for masking of children during these flu seasons, or daily flu testing. I doubt it.

The vaxxes might look good until you look at the other side of what the CDC says... https://openvaers.com/covid-data and https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf.

But you know all this already.

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Openvaers is not 'what the CDC says'. It's another of those websites that some lone lunatic (https://www.logically.ai/articles/california-woman-anti-vax-site-openvaers) is running from their basement. Besides which, anyone can report anything to VAERS, and this is acknowledged in a clear disclaimer...

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

If you want to look at Covid data, then look at Covid data. It's not hard to find.

But if you look at a self-reporting system that is then filtered and manipulated by a lone anti-vaxxer masquerading as someone unbiased and competent... don't expect to get sensible results.

This has been pointed out to BADecker several times before. But like all anti-vaxxers, he doesn't care about facts or logic.

Over and over it is demonstrated that the so-called 'anti-vaxxers' are far more up-to-speed on the science both from an understanding point of view, and in respect for the scientific process.  The likes of MIT, the UN, doctors briefing congress, etc, will all lament this.

Most 'anti-vaxxers' are in fact engineers, scientists, etc.  That is why high income high-tech sector areas tend to be hot-beds for 'vaccine hesitancy'.  A good engineer can read a narrow medical subject and have more knowledge and familiarity with the available material than 99% of doctors.  The flip side is that most doctors could spend some time learning an arcane programming language and know how to write a program that 99% of software engineers could not manage.  In both cases, the one with the most domain experience could catch up pretty fast if they put some focus on it.

A really fantastic doctor, when confronted with a patient who knows some information that he/she does not, will be pleasantly surprised and impressed.

A good doctor will happily evaluate the info in case they can learn something and be able to practice medicine better.

An average doctor will just move on and not think much about it.

A typical shitty doctor will get all offended because they (correctly) question their own competance and have kind of fooled themselves into the belief that they walk above mortals.  Most doctor are shitty narrow-minded assholes, and most could be steared into participating in a genocide whether they recognize it or not.  That's one of the big lessons of the plandemic.

Because you say so? Show us what the CDC really says about those deaths. Then apply what they say to Covid deaths, because it works both ways.

They said that 94% of Covid deaths were comorbidities. But then they said that those deaths were still Covid deaths. In a similar way the CDC says the VAERS deaths that are attributed to the vaxxes, are really not vaxx deaths.

Does it feel so good picking and choosing what to believe, as the CDC says it all muddled, every-which-way?

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Right here:

Presenting these data as unquestionable facts is stupid at best.

Guess we'll have to take you at your word on that, since once again, you provide absolutely zero evidence. Seems like you aren't so up to speed with the "scientific process" as you think. ::)

It ain't healthy
https://rumble.com/vn07o9-must-listen-what-this-vaccine-actually-does.html

Ahh yes, a random grainy and anonymous sound file. The pinnacle of the scientific process!

This is the kind of thing you base your life on. Honestly, I just feel sorry for anti-vaxxers at this point. How embarrassing.

I don't think vaccines kill, it's just that some people who have low immune systems are unable to accept the effects caused by the vaccine so they die.

So how did they end up with a low immune system, shot one done some damage, god f*ck up or your thinking is skewed?

Says the guy who only ever points to 'information' from scamdemic co-conspirators in the rare instance he points to anything at all.

It fair to say so. The pool should be which vaccine is the deadliest?
https://thecovidblog.com/category/vaccine-deaths/

Surprised to have not seen a link to PVA's third installment on the vaccine thing here yet.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/iquxq1oZwlYh/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/iquxq1oZwlYh/)

I love the J&J scientist:  Q: Got the J&J jab?   A: 'Fuck no! ...I got the Moderna.'

The dude should go to work for Moderna because he definitely did them a solid.  And he'll almost certainly find himself in the labor market pretty quickly.

His statement is an interesting datapoint though.  J&J, AstraZ, Sputnik, and many others are DNA.  Pfizer is rumored to be self-replicating mRNA.  As far as I can tell, Moderna GMO's only one cell per nano-particle at most and then it at hopefully stops.  I suspect that that was the scientist's reasoning here.

Wallmart is read with bags and freezer....
https://youtu.be/uXVlaCHGqH4

I' m not yet vaccinated,but base the news in our urban place,increasing those who vaccinated was died,but still they investigate.One thing must be focus,what the status those people will be going to give a vaccine why..? There's a lot of people need first to check there, immune system if can manage the vaccine.SOME people died because of vaccine is stronger than there body immune system..that's why..

True number will never be know. In years to come the exes death rate will give some info.

I looked through the article, and these words made me chuckle bc the very same words could be said sarcastically somewhere on reddit, and the comment would get a lot of upvotes since no one would suspect that it was said seriously.

Also I'm kinda glad I found this

https://i.imgur.com/WlABIbP.png

on the page, cos  this is exactly the kind of stuff I was expecting to see there. :)

Those so called vaccines cause all kinds of aggressive cancers. Dr. Ryan Cole
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441526348309278724

Isn't it funny watching them posts all of these links from a shady websites, and there and there believe it's content like there is nothing wrong with it.

Im pretty sure high-schoolers were thought how to properly analyzed primary and secondary sources for their chosen topics (in this covid).

Do you think that all doctors around the world saying that the vast majority of people in hospitals these days because of COVID-19 are those that are not vaccinated? Do you think all those doctors are lying? And why would they do that in your opinion? Do you think that most people are evil and only you, anti-vaxxers, are on the good side? If you do, it's a very dangerous way of thinking, I have to tell you. Educate yourself, and change your mind for your own good.

No
No
Corrupted to the bone
I dont know any anti-vaccers
Dont worry my thinking, instead look in the mirror.
I learn and walk straight every day

Hmm are you trying to conclude here that there low immune system killed them? Let's not be too focus on those lies that could have been exaggerated from various claims that covid-19 vaccines does not have lapses. They have there own effect when it come to humans' system. If a particular vaccine kills then let's not cover it up with medical attributes or terms.
I know that no covid-19 vaccine is 95% effective...read my lips :-*

Vaccines are just weak type of viruses which are created for making human's immune system strong against the Diseases which these vaccines are created for. Though there might be some side effects but the benefits are far much. So don't think them harmful just get vaccinated and prevent yourself from these Diseases.

Seems like propaganda machinery works well on some poor minds. The number of wrongs in just a couple of lines is astounding.
What are the long term effects of the Covid vaccines? https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/10/investigative-reports/covid-19-moderna-gets-its-miracle/
Real scientist and expert in the field can be found in sig.


https://i.ibb.co/xYk4h8f/temp.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

New development varients on the way, be careful
https://streamable.com/quw8gg

The idea that anti-vaxxers consider the data is your most fanciful yet.

You're asking people to accept that you consider the testing process, efficacy, instances of certain side effects as a proportion of total doses administered, and death rate... and yet you consistently disregard the data when it's presented to you.


Yeah.

Clinical trials of Pfizer COVID-19 jab flawed and doctored up, says The BMJ journal
https://tass.com/society/1357337

Weirdly (uniquely?) for one of your links, there does appear to be a bit of substance to this one. The BMJ goes into further detail here (https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635).

Two points to note are that:

1) The sub-contractor concerned, Ventavia, were only responsible for 1,000 participants (the full trial was 44,000), so 2 per cent (ish). Not enough to invalidate the trial.

2) I don't see any substance to the allegation that their trials results were "doctored up". The concerns highlighted by the whistleblower are:

- Participants placed in a hallway after injection and not being monitored by clinical staff
- Lack of timely follow-up of patients who experienced adverse events
- Protocol deviations not being reported
- Vaccines not being stored at proper temperatures
- Mislabelled laboratory specimens, and
- Targeting of Ventavia staff for reporting these types of problems.

So nothing about falsifying data, more poor practice. The "doctored up" headline may be more to do with the fact that your original link is from the Russian news agency, TASS... who may possibly not be quite impartial.

A second employee has then (quote from the link above)

So, good that an audit has taken place, but questionable that Ventavia continue to work as a subcontractor on new projects.

So surprise that with the clot shots massive increase of death babies is happening
https://rumble.com/vovjtz-uk-funeral-director-10x-newborn-baby-deaths-after-covid-shots-refrigerators.html

Infection rate of vaccineted is higher as the not vaccineted
https://dailysceptic.org/2021/11/09/awkward-meltdown-at-the-uk-health-security-agency-over-data-showing-infection-rate-higher-in-vaccinated-than-unvaccinated/

When will this clown show end?

I have not really seen anybody body that the vaccine have killed,all what we've been hearing is rumour that the vaccine is capable of killing and the rumour is spread by people who don't want to take the vaccine.
They also want to discourage people from taking the vaccine.

The reasons for the vaccine was for it to cure people of the sickness and not to kill people,and the government had confirm that the drugs is effective on the patients.Therefore,the rumour that the vaccine kills is vague.

The red (probably communist) state of Texas has some bad news for anti-vaxers:

I can't really tell if it kills , I and some members of my family took vaccine early this year and we are fine and strong. I hear people saying  about the vaccine I don't know if they got some bad results about the vaccine. I took the vaccine because i do not have option, I had to prevent my health than doing nothing about it.

Any stats for smoke detectors?

Does anyone in Texas even own a smoke detector? Maybe if there was a promotion "buy a smoke detector get a free shotgun" in Walmart. Come to think of it, might work with vaccines too.

If anyone needs an example of 'low functioning', you really cannot do much better than these two retards.  They occupied themselves on a multi-page post about 'smoke detectors' a while back, and didn't even notice when people were playing off their retardation.  It was embarrassing.

A free shotgun would definitely help to keep away all the pesky people who say things like "You shouldn't stab yourself!" and "Please put down the knife."

I'll stab myself if I want to.

https://www.saynotosmokedetectors.com/Saynotonotstabbingyourself.html

That's where you're wrong. Plenty of people in Texas own smoke detectors. I saw the data below on Facebook, and the guy has a YouTube channel as well, so it must be legit.

https://i.imgur.com/tungBO7.jpg

Well, I got the booster yesterday (Moderna, after 2 doses of Astra-Zeneca), and I'm still shamelessly alive.

Still early days and more data needed, but so far
Neurological issues up 1,000%
Pulmonary embolisms up 467%
Cancer +300%
Myocardial infarction +269%
Miscarriage +300%
https://www.independentsentinel.com/vax-data-300-more-miscarriages-300-more-cancer-1000-more-neurological-disease-in-u-s-military/

https://thelibertydaily.com/bombshell-cover-up-cancer-diagnoses-in-the-military-rose-over-three-fold-since-jabs-were-introduced/

https://i.ibb.co/c8MHcvB/2022-01-14-213921-1280x800-scrot.png (https://imgbb.com/)

My god. Every time you think anti-vaxxers can't possibly say or do anything stupider (e.g. drink your own urine), they go and do something like this. Did you seriously just show a picture of Google fucking search trends as some kind of argument that the vaccine causes myocarditis?

This is what passes as dO yOuR oWn ReSeArCh to anti-vaxxers? Genuinely hilarious. How embarrassing it must be to be an anti-vaxxer.

Wait until you discover that searches about COVID-19 peaked at the start of 2020! What could it possibly mean! I'm sure the deep state are involved somehow!

So situation now is, long term Tattoo artist know after 15 min on doing work on someone if he/she is vaccinated or not, because the skin on vaccinated does not react the same way (natural way).
Massage therapist can tell if someone is vaccinated because the vaccinated "smell different"
Several funeral directors now say the vaccinated dead look different
https://rumble.com/embed/vqqmda/?pub=4
Embalmer sees results of the clotshots (not for the squeamish)

This is important breaking news, thank you. Far better than the ridiculous unsubstantiated anecdotal hearsay you sometimes get in these threads.


They probably bathe more frequently, yes.


Yes, I'd assume they lack the 'ravaged lungs' look that is so popular amongst the anti-vaxxer crowd.

I haven't seen anyone killed by Covid19, does that mean it doesn't kill?

What fantasy galaxy are you from, or get paid to posting junk?
The question is how long it will take for vaccine deaths to be higher then covid deaths?

https://thecovidblog.com/2022/01/25/bill-branch-70-year-old-tennessee-painter-says-get-vaccine-not-dewormer-dead-10-weeks-after-moderna-mrna-booster-injection/

Freedom convoy rolling on
https://youtu.be/ct7yTC5WhEk

That's the question, isn't it? Although perhaps directed at the wrong person. On a related note, have you ever considered buying a mirror?

I am vaccinated I am still alive. If a vaccinated person dies, then how could he vote? Some senior citizens have already facing problems like lung cancer, high blood pressure. So, if they got vaccine, then they are dying.

Why would it matter is someone votes?
Voting for someone who then turns around and uses his vote to vote against someone is not a democracy, that is a scam.
Why would someone think someone else is a higher god and decides to let him rule over him.
Its already evidend that people die in great numbers from just about every known disease. Some toxic brew mixed together in a day with unknown ingredients without long term study, the risk is infinitive, basic science.

A lot of time people wonder if this covid19  has part two or not,because the speed at which the virus has spread or it's spreading allover.

It really coming in a bad dimension because most people
Have had the mindset.

It's amazing how fast news can spread, is't it?
As for the so called virus, it managed to spread to europe and the world in no time. It somehow avoided Beijing, Shanghai and other major Chinese citys despite millions traveling every day from Wuhan, for weeks beforehand. No mask, distancing, vaccine or anything at all.
It also managed to avoid several Chines neighbour countries for half a year. Now that is some smart virus or brain death people, one or the other.

Another close degree data-point.  This from a friend who was visiting today.  She showed me a family vid of her niece in the national capital region (where a lot of people from around the country go to work) who was injured recently.  She got AstraZeneca.  Her condition looked remarkably similar to hundreds of vids I've seen.  Mostly from women in the 18-50 age range.  The following vid is not the girl in question, but a pretty classic example of this particular form of injury:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/ODhRuudIdKRr/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/ODhRuudIdKRr/)

Yes once again batch/lot number matters when it comes to the toxicity of the shot
Evidence That US Government Targeted Red States with Deadly Batches of Vaccine
https://www.brighteon.com/1380e8cf-23b2-494e-ad47-2ec208bef1e0