[POLL] Do vaccines kill people?

[Cnut237]

The vaxxes might look good until you look at the other side of what the CDC says... https://openvaers.com/covid-data and https://openvaers.com/images/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-20116.pdf.

Openvaers is not 'what the CDC says'. It's another of those websites that some lone lunatic is running from their basement. Besides which, anyone can report anything to VAERS, and this is acknowledged in a clear disclaimer...

The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically. Data from VAERS reports should always be interpreted with these limitations in mind.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html

If you want to look at Covid data, then look at Covid data. It's not hard to find.

But if you look at a self-reporting system that is then filtered and manipulated by a lone anti-vaxxer masquerading as someone unbiased and competent... don't expect to get sensible results.

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[o_e_l_e_o]

Openvaers is not 'what the CDC says'. It's another of those websites that some lone lunatic is running from their basement.

This has been pointed out to BADecker several times before. But like all anti-vaxxers, he doesn't care about facts or logic.

[tvbcof]

Openvaers is not 'what the CDC says'. It's another of those websites that some lone lunatic is running from their basement.

This has been pointed out to BADecker several times before. But like all anti-vaxxers, he doesn't care about facts or logic.

Over and over it is demonstrated that the so-called 'anti-vaxxers' are far more up-to-speed on the science both from an understanding point of view, and in respect for the scientific process.  The likes of MIT, the UN, doctors briefing congress, etc, will all lament this.

Most 'anti-vaxxers' are in fact engineers, scientists, etc.  That is why high income high-tech sector areas tend to be hot-beds for 'vaccine hesitancy'.  A good engineer can read a narrow medical subject and have more knowledge and familiarity with the available material than 99% of doctors.  The flip side is that most doctors could spend some time learning an arcane programming language and know how to write a program that 99% of software engineers could not manage.  In both cases, the one with the most domain experience could catch up pretty fast if they put some focus on it.

A really fantastic doctor, when confronted with a patient who knows some information that he/she does not, will be pleasantly surprised and impressed.

A good doctor will happily evaluate the info in case they can learn something and be able to practice medicine better.

An average doctor will just move on and not think much about it.

A typical shitty doctor will get all offended because they (correctly) question their own competance and have kind of fooled themselves into the belief that they walk above mortals.  Most doctor are shitty narrow-minded assholes, and most could be steared into participating in a genocide whether they recognize it or not.  That's one of the big lessons of the plandemic.

[BADecker]

Openvaers is not 'what the CDC says'. It's another of those websites that some lone lunatic is running from their basement.

This has been pointed out to BADecker several times before. But like all anti-vaxxers, he doesn't care about facts or logic.

Because you say so? Show us what the CDC really says about those deaths. Then apply what they say to Covid deaths, because it works both ways.

They said that 94% of Covid deaths were comorbidities. But then they said that those deaths were still Covid deaths. In a similar way the CDC says the VAERS deaths that are attributed to the vaxxes, are really not vaxx deaths.

Does it feel so good picking and choosing what to believe, as the CDC says it all muddled, every-which-way?

[o_e_l_e_o]

Because you say so? Show us what the CDC really says about those deaths.

Right here:

VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable. In large part, reports to VAERS are voluntary, which means they are subject to biases. This creates specific limitations on how the data can be used scientifically.

Presenting these data as unquestionable facts is stupid at best.

Over and over it is demonstrated that the so-called 'anti-vaxxers' are far more up-to-speed on the science both from an understanding point of view, and in respect for the scientific process.

Guess we'll have to take you at your word on that, since once again, you provide absolutely zero evidence. Seems like you aren't so up to speed with the "scientific process" as you think.

[Tash]

It ain't healthy
https://rumble.com/vn07o9-must-listen-what-this-vaccine-actually-does.html

[o_e_l_e_o]

It ain't healthy
https://rumble.com/vn07o9-must-listen-what-this-vaccine-actually-does.html

Ahh yes, a random grainy and anonymous sound file. The pinnacle of the scientific process!

This is the kind of thing you base your life on. Honestly, I just feel sorry for anti-vaxxers at this point. How embarrassing.

[dondonk]

I don't think vaccines kill, it's just that some people who have low immune systems are unable to accept the effects caused by the vaccine so they die.

[Tash]

I don't think vaccines kill, it's just that some people who have low immune systems are unable to accept the effects caused by the vaccine so they die.

So how did they end up with a low immune system, shot one done some damage, god f*ck up or your thinking is skewed?

[tvbcof]

It ain't healthy
https://rumble.com/vn07o9-must-listen-what-this-vaccine-actually-does.html

Ahh yes, a random grainy and anonymous sound file. The pinnacle of the scientific process!

This is the kind of thing you base your life on. Honestly, I just feel sorry for anti-vaxxers at this point. How embarrassing.

Says the guy who only ever points to 'information' from scamdemic co-conspirators in the rare instance he points to anything at all.

[Tash]

It fair to say so. The pool should be which vaccine is the deadliest?
https://thecovidblog.com/category/vaccine-deaths/

[tvbcof]

It fair to say so. The pool should be which vaccine is the deadliest?
https://thecovidblog.com/category/vaccine-deaths/

Surprised to have not seen a link to PVA's third installment on the vaccine thing here yet.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/iquxq1oZwlYh/

I love the J&J scientist:  Q: Got the J&J jab?   A: 'Fuck no! ...I got the Moderna.'

The dude should go to work for Moderna because he definitely did them a solid.  And he'll almost certainly find himself in the labor market pretty quickly.

His statement is an interesting datapoint though.  J&J, AstraZ, Sputnik, and many others are DNA.  Pfizer is rumored to be self-replicating mRNA.  As far as I can tell, Moderna GMO's only one cell per nano-particle at most and then it at hopefully stops.  I suspect that that was the scientist's reasoning here.

[Tash]

Wallmart is read with bags and freezer....
https://youtu.be/uXVlaCHGqH4

[Ems.]

I' m not yet vaccinated,but base the news in our urban place,increasing those who vaccinated was died,but still they investigate.One thing must be focus,what the status those people will be going to give a vaccine why..? There's a lot of people need first to check there, immune system if can manage the vaccine.SOME people died because of vaccine is stronger than there body immune system..that's why..

[Tash]

I' m not yet vaccinated,but base the news in our urban place,increasing those who vaccinated was died,but still they investigate.One thing must be focus,what the status those people will be going to give a vaccine why..? There's a lot of people need first to check there, immune system if can manage the vaccine.SOME people died because of vaccine is stronger than there body immune system..that's why..

Over 1.5 million dead worldwide from the vaxxes so far... https://openvaers.com/.

True number will never be know. In years to come the exes death rate will give some info.

[Betwrong]

CONFIRMED: The Jab is a classified weapon
https://truth11.com/2021/09/25/confirmed-the-jab-is-a-classified-weapon/
The pfizer shot really is a “classified state of the art U.S. weapons system.”

Good research.  Likely a fairly accurate view of what is going on. ~

I looked through the article, and these words made me chuckle bc the very same words could be said sarcastically somewhere on reddit, and the comment would get a lot of upvotes since no one would suspect that it was said seriously.

Also I'm kinda glad I found this



on the page, cos  this is exactly the kind of stuff I was expecting to see there.

[Tash]

Those so called vaccines cause all kinds of aggressive cancers. Dr. Ryan Cole
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441526348309278724

[Natsuu]

CONFIRMED: The Jab is a classified weapon
https://truth11.com/2021/09/25/confirmed-the-jab-is-a-classified-weapon/
The pfizer shot really is a “classified state of the art U.S. weapons system.”

Good research.  Likely a fairly accurate view of what is going on. ~

I looked through the article, and these words made me chuckle bc the very same words could be said sarcastically somewhere on reddit, and the comment would get a lot of upvotes since no one would suspect that it was said seriously.

Also I'm kinda glad I found this



on the page, cos  this is exactly the kind of stuff I was expecting to see there.

Isn't it funny watching them posts all of these links from a shady websites, and there and there believe it's content like there is nothing wrong with it.

Im pretty sure high-schoolers were thought how to properly analyzed primary and secondary sources for their chosen topics (in this covid).

[Betwrong]

Those so called vaccines cause all kinds of aggressive cancers. Dr. Ryan Cole
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441526348309278724

Do you think that all doctors around the world saying that the vast majority of people in hospitals these days because of COVID-19 are those that are not vaccinated? Do you think all those doctors are lying? And why would they do that in your opinion? Do you think that most people are evil and only you, anti-vaxxers, are on the good side? If you do, it's a very dangerous way of thinking, I have to tell you. Educate yourself, and change your mind for your own good.

[Tash]

Those so called vaccines cause all kinds of aggressive cancers. Dr. Ryan Cole
https://twitter.com/i/status/1441526348309278724

Do you think that all doctors around the world saying that the vast majority of people in hospitals these days because of COVID-19 are those that are not vaccinated? Do you think all those doctors are lying? And why would they do that in your opinion? Do you think that most people are evil and only you, anti-vaxxers, are on the good side? If you do, it's a very dangerous way of thinking, I have to tell you. Educate yourself, and change your mind for your own good.

No
No
Corrupted to the bone
I dont know any anti-vaccers
Dont worry my thinking, instead look in the mirror.
I learn and walk straight every day