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Title: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 13, 2022, 04:00:12 AM
Kindly avoid making discussion whether you like the KYC process or not. This isn't a discussion topic.

At first crypto casino was well known for anonymous betting platform. But with the implementation of gambling license in crypto casino KYC has become a common thing now. However, KYC isn't mandatory for all of the users. You can still play at most of the crypto betting sites without verifying your identity. But a casino may ask you to verify your identity if they find it necessary. There are several reasons behind it

  • To Determine the Identity and Location: This is the most common reason for asking identity verification. Online casino doesn't allow underage gambling. You must need to be older than 18 years to place bets. Beside that, most of the casino has placed some country restrictions. Casino will ask for KYC verification if the system suspect any users for breaking those terms.
  • AML and Coin Mixing Policy: To prevent anti money laundering and coin mixing policy casino reserve the right to ask for KYC verification. Try to avoid suspicious activity and always complete the rollover/wagering requirements.
  • To Prevent the Abuses: Many bettors create multiple accounts to take the benefits of promotions. Few bettors use some illegal algorithm to win their bets. Crypto casino asks for KYC verification if the system detect any suspicious activity like this.
  • Some Other Factors: Identity verification is also required in case of bigger withdrawals. There could be few other reasons too which depends on the license provider and services of the casino.

- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

Casino Name|License(Register)|License Operator|KYC Requirements|KYC details
BC.Game (https://bc.game/)|Yes (158182 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=158182))|BlockDance B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/AeYwSIS.jpg))|Identity documents: photo of your Govt. approved ID card, driver's license and passport. Proof of address, Source of funds.
BCH.games (https://bch.games/)|No|N/A|No (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311987.msg60449330#msg60449330)|N/A
BetChain (https://www.betchain.com/)|Yes (152125 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=152125))|Dama N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/dQuNcrQ.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betcoin (https://www.betcoin.ag/)|Yes (163193 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=163193))|Supreme Solutions B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/LCEk6fO.jpg))|A selfie with a note to the casino, a phone call or verification of a player via live video call (Skype), copy of government Identification, passport, and recent utility or cable bill.
BetFury (https://betfury.io/)|Yes (155126 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=155126))|Universe B Games B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/qw3ELJh.jpg))|Identity documents: a picture of passport, driver's license, or national ID card. Proof of address: picture of recent utility bill listing your name and address.
BetHash (https://bethash.io/)|Yes (153302 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=153302))|OrionStar B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/JQHBc8W.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betplay (https://betplay.io/)|Yes•|Lama Tech, Limitada|No (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5319611.msg61185695#msg61185695)|N/A
Bets (https://www.bets.io)|Yes*(155648 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=155648))|Bets Entertainment N.V.|Yes*(If needed (https://i.imgur.com/NZn0RrD.jpg))|Identity documents: ID card, passport. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds: Bank Statement.
Bitcasino (https://bitcasino.io/)|Yes (152185 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=152185))|Moon Technologies B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Fy4rWet.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
Bitsler (https://www.bitsler.com)|Yes (144430 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=144430))|Oyine N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/TMk4VQu.jpg))|Level 1 KYC is mandatory to access the 3rd party providers slots game. They may request for Identity Documents, Proof of Address and a selfie with identity documents.
Bitvest (https://bitvest.io/)|No|N/A|No (https://i.imgur.com/t76S4Zb.jpg)|N/A
BK8 (https://www.bk8btc.com/)|Yes (164452 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=164452))|Black Hawk Technology B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/LR1fT94.jpg))| Depends on the request of casino team.
BlackJack (https://blackjack.fun/)|Yes•|Satya Code SRL|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/ZA5O05a.jpg))|Identity documents: government Issued ID, a selfie with the documents. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds: bank statement.
BTC365 (https://www.btc365.com/)|Yes*•|E-Gambling Montenegro d.o.o.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/uaN1iqx.jpg))| Identity documents: National ID or Passport, a selfie with documents. Proof of address. Deposit slip
Bustabit (https://www.bustabit.com/)|No|N/A|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/5v4KT1r.jpg)|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Bustadice (https://bustadice.com/)|No|N/A|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/5v4KT1r.jpg)|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
CoinRoyale (https://coinroyale.com/)|No|N/A|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/pQ1528i.jpg)|Depends on the request of casino team.
CoinsGame (https://coins.game/)|Yes (161620 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=161620))|Royal Way N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RwFRq.jpeg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Cloudbet (https://www.cloudbet.com/en/)|Yes (148526 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=148526))|Halcyon Super Holdings B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Co5KL9M.jpg))|Identity documents: national ID, international passport. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
CryptoGames (https://crypto.games)|Yes (153126 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=153126))|MuchGaming B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/rCUER2B.jpg))|Identity Documents, Proof of Address and other required information (based on the request of casino team).
Crashino (https://www.crashino.com)|Yes (162031 (https://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=162031))|MIBS N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/X76ZKVO.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
DuckDice (https://duckdice.io/)|Yes (145622 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=145622))|Sabant B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/bCApCqh.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Duelbits (https://duelbits.com)|Yes (153298 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=153298))|Liquid Entertainment N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/ug2s1Nu.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of Address
EarnBet (https://earnbet.io/)|Yes (148186 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=148186))|Aurora Tech N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/THRhqm8.jpg))| Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
Fairlay (https://www.fairlay.com/)|Yes*•|Fairly LLC|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/G7ve5m3.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Fairspin (https://fairspin.io/)|Yes (151612 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=151612))|Techcore Holding B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/dtK0UL5.jpg))|Identity documents: govt. ID, passport, driver's license. Proof of address.
Flush (https://flush.com/)|Yes (161495 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=161495))|King of Clubz B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/oynApeg.jpg))|Identity documents: government issued identity card, or passport, or driving license. Proof of Address. Source of funds.
FortuneJack (https://fortunejack.com)|Yes (139781 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=139781))|Nexus Group Enterprises N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/A68ljzJ.jpg))|It depends on the cases. Normally, valid certified ID verification with a selfie.
FreeBitco (https://freebitco.in/)|Yes*|FBC B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/17/ZBQdd.png))|Depends on the request of the casino team.
Futuur (https://futuur.com/)|Yes (150052 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=150052))|Futuur B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/X9u80H8.jpg))|Identity documents: certified copies of identity cards. Proof of address. Source of funds: bank statements, photocopy of your credit cards.
Gamdom (https://gamdom.com/)|Yes (141727 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=141727))|Smein Hosting N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RwiTb.jpeg))|Identity documents: passport, ID card, driving license & a selfie. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Jacksclub (https://jacksclub.io/)|Yes (157706 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=157706))|Jackfruit B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/qikOcAj.jpg))|Selfie video. Identity documents: Passport, driver's license or national ID card.
Livecasino (https://livecasino.io/)|Yes (152185 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=152185))|Moon Technologies B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/YX4lHqe.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
L0tt0 (https://l0tt0.com/)|No|N/A|No (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457016.msg62446092#msg62446092)|N/A
LuckyDiamond (https://luckydiamond.io/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/ku1vUaA.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
MaverickGames (https://www.maverickgames.com/)|Yes (Check (https://www.gov.im/categories/business-and-industries/gambling-and-e-gaming/licence-holders/))|Shelgeyr Limited|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/ELgnv2j.jpg))|Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, ID card. Proof of address: Utility Bill, Bank statement.
Mbet (https://mbet.io/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Cbic6bz.jpg))|Identity Documents: Drivers License, Passport, Phone Number, Photographic Evidence. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds.
Metaspins (https://metaspins.com/)|Yes (160102 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=160102))|Metaspins N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.ibb.co/C2rb6X0/Metaspins-KYC.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
MetaWin (https://metawin.com/)|Yes (153109 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=153109))|Asobi N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/24/JOG4D.jpeg))|Identity documents: Passport, ID Card, driver’s license. Proof of address: Utility bill, bank statement. Source of funds.
MintDice (https://mintdice.com/)|Yes (146440 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=146440))|Prism Sentinel N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/EobXqqr.jpg))|Identity documents: Passports, ID cards, driving license, phone verification, face verification. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
NanoGames (https://nanogames.io/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/iPamNod.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
OwlGames (https://owl.games/)|Yes (158185 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=158185))|Cyber Galaxy B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/huw4ubd.jpg))|Identity documents: passport, national ID Card. Proof of address: utility bills. Source of funds.
Paradice (https://paradice.in/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/OHGpFQY.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
PlayBitcoinGames (https://playbitcoingames.com/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/aayVAqn.jpg))| Depends on the request of casino team.
Primedice (https://primedice.com/)|Yes (145203 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=145203))|Slicemedia B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/57Kyz69.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Riobet (https://riobet.com/en/)|Yes (135400 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=135400))|Riotech N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/rqKEOdf.jpg))|Identity documents: Passport, ID card, Driving license. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of funds: Bank Statement.
Rocketpot (https://rocketpot.io/)|Yes (151265 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=151265))|Danneskjold Ventures B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/xIXJGAN.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rocket Run (https://rocket.run/)|Yes (149345 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=149345))|Alford N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/rio7v6J.jpg))|Identity documents: Passport, ID card or driving license, selfie with ID. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Rollbit (https://rollbit.com/)|Yes (157086 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=157086))|Bull Gaming N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/03nNS9O.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of Address, Source of funds.
Roobet (https://roobet.com)|Yes (157205 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=157205))|Raw Entertainment B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/12/03/NjVeD.jpeg))|Level 1 KYC is mandatory. They may request for Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds verification process.
Sherbet (https://sherbet.com/)|Yes (161889 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=161889))|Spinkick N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/Rwhfl.jpeg))|Depends on the request of the casino team.
Shuffle (https://shuffle.com/)|Yes (160998 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=160998))|Natural nine B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RwkKZ.jpeg))|Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, etc. Proof of address: Utility Bill. Source of Funds: Bank statement.
Sportsbet.io (https://sportsbet.io/sports)|Yes (129230 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=129230))|mBet Solutions N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/TSb4zFU.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s licence. - Proof of address: Utility bill or Bank statement.
Sportbet.one (https://sportbet.one/)|No|N/A|No (https://i.imgur.com/eUBD1zb.jpg)|N/A
Stake (https://stake.com/)|Yes (145353 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=145353))|Medium Rare N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/FUqjlW0.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
StarBets (https://starbets.io/)|No|N/A|Yes (If needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389679.msg60484446#msg60484446))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Thunderpick (https://thunderpick.com/en/)|Yes (146988 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=146988))|Paloma Media B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/9K5AevH.jpg))|Identity documents: passport, national Identity Card. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
Tower (https://tower.bet/)|Yes (147211 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=147211))|Sabant B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Xg9cr0v.jpg))|Identity documents. User may need to complete further verification steps (based on the request of casino team)
TrustDice (https://trustdice.win/)|Yes (151832 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=151832))|Satoshi Gaming Group N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/G6fL2ia.jpg))|Identity Documents, Proof of Address, Source of Funds.
Vavada (https://vavada.com/en/)|Yes (143168 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=143168))|Vavada B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RwEeG.jpeg))|Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s Licence, etc. Proof of address: Utility Bill, Bank statement.
VIPGame (https://vipgame.io/)|Yes (153302 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=153302))|OrionStar B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/2y84FWd.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
Wild.io (https://wild.io/)|Yes (161858 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=161858))|Nonce Gaming B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/24/JOZiq.jpeg))|Identity documents: Passport, driver’s license, etc. Proof of address: Utility bill, bank statement. Source of funds: Bank statement or any other official document.
WinDice (https://windice.io/)|Yes (160672 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=160672))|Win Games Group N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/sZBpUoZ.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Winz (https://winz.io/)|Yes (152125 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=152125))|Dama N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/MihB796.jpg))|Identity documents: driver’s license, ID card, passport. Proof of address: utility bills with the name and address on it. Source of funds.
Wolf (https://wolf.bet/)|Yes*(149850 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=149850))|HDS Technologies N.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/8huQPcf.jpg))|User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).
500Casino (https://500play.com/)|Yes (150536 (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=150536))|Perfect Storm B.V.|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/9ilP7vh.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID, Passport, Driver's license. Proof of address: utility bill & Source of funds.
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Note: The * mark casino have license information available at the site, but they don't have the license validator link available yet. Some of them are working on it; The • mark casino doesn't owned and operated by a company which is located in Curacao. As a result Curacao commercial register isn't available for them. The * mark casino advertising in the forum with “No KYC” in the ANN thread title, while their terms says that they reserves the right to ask for KYC documents of the users.

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
  • Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
  • Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
  • Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
  • Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/22/CIrR3fUc0cf36dc914fd7fe.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/22/FxYcQV8f354b5a720c724dc.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/22/PZgFQCK72ba91cb4bdd841c.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/05/22/eTOVXPK794cefc30dc41dd2.png

Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.

Always check the Terms and conditions, KYC and AML policy of the casino to get more details about the KYC verification.

Other informative topics for bettors
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Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: nakamura12 on January 13, 2022, 06:10:59 AM
As what it is right now, your table setup is fine and you don't have to worry about it. The important is the details of KYC/AML Policy Page, T&C for each casinos that are in your list. Well, you included that gamblers should check the site's T&C, KYC/AML policy page instead of depending on this thread though this is helpful for notifying a gamblers about it first before they read I fully on the gambling site's policy page.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: timerland on January 13, 2022, 07:20:00 AM
Great table.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?

May be a bit hard to find that info, perhaps look at T&Cs?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 13, 2022, 08:11:17 AM
Its a very nice table. Perhaps you can add more details about how they use the KYC data and the data security? Are they using third party providers for KYC, for example?
Questions like that are important because Know-Your-Customer verification methods can be quite the double edged sword when it comes down to it. And I mean not only for gambling or other fund - related accounts but also for basically anything. Once you connect your identity to something, that becomes something you cannot delete. While KYC protects you legally, in case something happens where you need to prove the funds belong to you, it can also be used against you. So whether its good or not, is hard to say. But it has to be proven to be secure.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: michellee on January 13, 2022, 09:53:39 AM
Great table.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?

May be a bit hard to find that info, perhaps look at T&Cs?
I guess the casino can hold your balance until you fill what it needs. Or the other scenario, the casino can close your accounts immediately if you are caught breaking their rules or cheating them.

Hopefully, @OP can add more casinos and their requirements so we will know what casino we can use to gamble. More updates from @OP will be waiting as this thread will help many members to know the good casino.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 13, 2022, 09:55:06 AM
Well, you included that gamblers should check the site's T&C, KYC/AML policy page instead of depending on this thread ~
There are a lot more information about KYC verification in each gambling sites T&C/AML page. It wasn't possible to include all of those details in the table. I have only provided the screenshot of the terms where the casino mentioned ”We reserves the right to ask for KYC/identity verification... ”. This topic contains a small & basic part of the KYC policy. So, it will be better to check out the T&C page to clear all doubts.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?
The result could be different based on the cases. Even casino may seize your funds and close your account, otherwise refund of the deposits and close your account after submitting the personal details. It will be complicated to add those information in the table.

Perhaps you can add more details about how they use the KYC data and the data security? Are they using third party providers for KYC, for example?
So whether its good or not, is hard to say. But it has to be proven to be secure.
Almost all of them using 3rd party service to complete and verify the KYC data of the users. I thought to add the list of the providers, but I wasn't able to check it in every casino. I will try to add it in the future (if possible). A licensed casino must need to follow the rules of their license provider. They won't disclose the personal details of any users in public places, but they may share it with someone (legal authority) to verify the documents.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: coin-investor on January 13, 2022, 12:15:40 PM
Glad we have something like this as a good reference instead of checking every casino if they have license and require KYC, almost all of them require KYC many at some point if they suspect that you are breaking the rules, this is also a good reference for a reputable casino, I hope you can check and include the casino I'm promoting right now, Blackjack.fun, I think it deserves to be on the list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: mak013 on January 14, 2022, 07:11:33 AM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made nice job, thx.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: cabron on January 14, 2022, 07:42:09 AM
Glad we have something like this as a good reference instead of checking every casino if they have license and require KYC, almost all of them require KYC many at some point if they suspect that you are breaking the rules, this is also a good reference for a reputable casino, I hope you can check and include the casino I'm promoting right now, Blackjack.fun, I think it deserves to be on the list.

Blackjack.fun looks like a very big live casino but I can't find their license but you can see it's owned and operated by Satya Code SRL which the information is down the footer. The documents to look for are in the https://blackjack.fun/provably-fair which they don't specify which document they'd need when asking for KYC, I think its just about age that they are monitoring.

If Mahdirakib will list it, it may be like this:

blackjack.fun  (https://blackjack.fun/)|No|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/AeYwSIS.jpg))|User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: ryzaadit on January 14, 2022, 07:59:19 AM
which they don't specify which document they'd need when asking for KYC, I think its just about age that
Any information contains
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User location, citizenship, or residence

The most common basic requested document for "KYC" is your ID & Proof of your resident/address like Paycheck or Bills payment.

-snip-
On-chain betting casino is the most site without any "KYC & License", while the betting activity using a contract for your bet & automatically withdraw to your wallet. The most important things for this are only provably fair.



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: aioc on January 14, 2022, 08:18:31 AM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made nice job, thx.

It's not a requirement to deposit and play but these casinos listed will likely ask for KYC if they think your account is abusing like in the case of one complainant


After examining patterns of the bets placed on sports, and noticing signs of abuse, our team has decided to enforce an electronic KYC check on your account.


There may be some reasons like a violation of the terms and the use of VPN when the casino doesn't allow it, it's to protect the rules of the casino and to protect their players as well.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Dewi Aries on January 14, 2022, 08:36:53 AM
Glad we have something like this as a good reference instead of checking every casino if they have license and require KYC, almost all of them require KYC many at some point if they suspect that you are breaking the rules, this is also a good reference for a reputable casino, I hope you can check and include the casino I'm promoting right now, Blackjack.fun, I think it deserves to be on the list.

Blackjack.fun looks like a very big live casino but I can't find their license but you can see it's owned and operated by Satya Code SRL which the information is down the footer. The documents to look for are in the https://blackjack.fun/provably-fair which they don't specify which document they'd need when asking for KYC, I think its just about age that they are monitoring.

If Mahdirakib will list it, it may be like this:

blackjack.fun  (https://blackjack.fun/)|No|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/AeYwSIS.jpg))|User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).

Yes lately blackjack.fun is growing based on wager some whale players come to play there even blackjack.fun offers weekly contests of almost 1 BTC
I also haven't found information about the license but I will try to confirm to the admin if I get information I will add it here.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 14, 2022, 10:06:39 AM
~snip~
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As I have mentioned it in the post, I'm still working to collect the data and add more casino in the list. I have checked Blackjack.fun too, but I couldn't find the required information. Yesterday I sent a message to their email support, and I'm still waiting for their reply. I have also sent email to two other casino (Bustadice & CoinRoyale) and got reply from both of them. I will add them in the list soon.

Like all of you, I can't see the license in Blackjack.fun while they have ‘KYC requirements’ mentioned in their TOS. Anyway, their TOS is mixed-up as everything is written in a single paragraph. They should separate each rules of the terms.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: robelneo on January 14, 2022, 01:37:21 PM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

You are bound by the rules and casino is bound to protect the integrity of their system and the only way casinos can do that is to do KYC on account that they think is a fraud or abusing their features, yes Cryptocurrency can help us anonymize our presence in casinos as long as you are following rules and the casino is compliant to regulators and reputable you are still safe.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: ryzaadit on January 14, 2022, 02:02:48 PM
Like all of you, I can't see the license in Blackjack.fun while they have ‘KYC requirements’ mentioned in their TOS. Anyway, their TOS is mixed-up as everything is written in a single paragraph. They should separate each rules of the terms.
Hahaha yeah, they messed up with the theme website + paragraph.

I guess you can search with the keyword "KYC" for the document is up to them, but they ask with name, country and address. Just take conclusion document need to be ask is the most common data like exchange (ID/PASSPORT + Paycheck/Bills Payment).

I believe all of casino/exchange is ask that data 95% same, I don't think you need to be included the data casino will be ask. Just for KYC (YES/NO) is already enough.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Beparanf on January 14, 2022, 04:38:29 PM
You should make this thread self moderated if you really want to avoid discussion here or at least lock the thread after you update your table if you don't want suggestions.

Just a curious question, Is there a way to verify the authenticity of the license of these Casino. It's easy to copy or provide a random license number on the website, Just add the logo of Curacao or other license org and they are good to go since only few user check the authenticity of the license. I hope theres a website to check each license then put that link on the table as reference for the license authenticity.

Good job!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 14, 2022, 05:52:01 PM
Hahaha yeah, they messed up with the theme website + paragraph.
I guess you can search with the keyword "KYC" for the document
I haven't update them in the list as everything is mixed up there. I have searched with the keywords ‘KYC' and found about their rules, but I couldn't find the details of KYC verification steps there. And it's true that every licensed casino have almost same steps for the KYC verification

Just a curious question, Is there a way to verify the authenticity of the license of these Casino. It's easy to copy or provide a random license number on the website, ~
Suggestions from the forum members will be needed in the next few days for sure, because it isn't going to possible for me to collect the information from each casino. And I need feedbacks from the forum members. So, there is no reason to lock this topic. Eventually, I haven't seen any useless reply in this thread yet. I wanted to avoid the off-topic and useless discussion here, seems like the message of the post is working.

The license validator is available in every casino and you can verify it by clicking in the validator logo from the casino only. The validator link doesn't work if I post it here. I tried to put the link in the table when I was creating this topic, but I removed the link as it was showing some error like this

https://i.imgur.com/OSCVv7P.jpg


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Pmalek on January 15, 2022, 07:22:16 AM
Good work compiling this information! Thumbs up also for not wanting to include negatively tagged sites.
Threads like this is something that I am interested in, and I know how much work has to be put into creating them. Good for you for sticking it out.

I find the KYC information for Bustabit and Bustadice very interesting.
They say that they can ask for KYC if they believe a player is underaged. How could a casino suspect that based on a player's betting pattern.
Another thing I found interesting about them is that they don't have a betting license, however, they do have certain restricted locations. I wonder why that is!?It is positive though that they will not confiscate your coins even if you refuse their KYC demands.

You didn't add any sources for Roobet and FreeBitco. Links are missing only for those two casinos.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: decodx on January 15, 2022, 08:59:18 AM
@OP, Let me just take this opportunity to congratulate you on creating this topic. It is always good to have easily accessible information, like this, in one place. I hope you will be able to keep this list updated. I especially appreciate the fact that you decided to omit the proven scam sites from the list (I hope this will not lure in a legion of trolls and sock-puppets in this thread).

I believe Curacao eGaming has a license validator, but I'm not sure about the others. Perhaps you can post an example of a gambling site with no license verification here so the community can help.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Beparanf on January 15, 2022, 09:35:43 AM

The license validator is available in every casino and you can verify it by clicking in the validator logo from the casino only. The validator link doesn't work if I post it here. I tried to put the link in the table when I was creating this topic, but I removed the link as it was showing some error like this


The license validator logo is not available on some of the casino that you listed on the table. I already try it before that's why I comment on this. Some of the casino just display there license number instead of the license validator logo that you mention. I don't want to mention specific casino on your list but there really is. I just want to make sure all the license they are declaring is authentic since we are all anonymous here.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 15, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
They say that they can ask for KYC if they believe a player is underaged. How could a casino suspect that based on a player's betting pattern.
Another thing I found interesting about them is that they don't have a betting license, however, they do have certain restricted locations. I wonder why that is!?It is positive though that they will not confiscate your coins even if you refuse their KYC demands.
I'm also wondering how the system will suspect the underage users. Maybe they will observe the betting patterns. They may contact the user if they find it unusual than all other bettors. And it isn't so hard to determine an underage person by doing some conversation with them.
Probably they still have some restricted countries as they had license before. Some countries have strict laws against gambling. It could be a reason to keep the restrictions on some countries as well.

You didn't add any sources for Roobet and FreeBitco. Links are missing only for those two casinos.
Freebitco have the shortest list of terms among all gambling site. They have no single word about the KYC/identity/AML policy in their TOS. I found no information there which could be included in the post. About Roobet, they have mandatory level 1 KYC verification system. I didn't include any more info in their KYC requirements column as they have a mandatory verification system.

I believe Curacao eGaming has a license validator, but I'm not sure about the others. Perhaps you can post an example of a gambling site with no license verification here so the community can help.
The license validator logo is not available on some of the casino that you listed on the table. I don't want to mention specific casino on your list but there really is.
Almost every licensed casino have the validator link available at the bottom of the page. I found only 2 casinos from the current table who have license information available at the site without validator link. One of them is Betcoin.ag and the other one is CryptoGames. @Beparanf, it would have been more helpful if you had mentioned the names as well. I have sent a message to both casino email support for the details of license validator. Let's wait for the response of them.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: decodx on January 15, 2022, 01:36:34 PM
The license validator logo is not available on some of the casino that you listed on the table. I already try it before that's why I comment on this. Some of the casino just display there license number instead of the license validator logo that you mention. I don't want to mention specific casino on your list but there really is. I just want to make sure all the license they are declaring is authentic since we are all anonymous here.

It is true. And since I don't mind mentioning a specific casino, I will give one example.

The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

Quote from: playbetr.com
Playbetr.com is licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V. through Global Limited Holding EOOD, License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. Casino games offered on Playbetr.com are provided and regulated by Gaming Services Provider, N.V., who are operating under the license 365/JAZ issued to CURACAO eGAMING by the Government of Curacao. Company registration number 10692 and corporate address 9 Abraham de Veerstraat.

Quote from: betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag is licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. Casino games offered on Betcoin.ag are provided and regulated by Gaming Services Provider, N.V., who are operating under the license 365/JAZ issued to CURACAO eGAMING by the Government of Curacao. Company registration number 10692 and corporate address 9 Abraham de Veerstraat.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

are you guys linked to betcoin.ag in anyway?

Hello, we have the same software provider but most of the operations are different outside of this.  There have been some talks of some joint promotions in the future but we will certainly keep you posted.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Betcoin.AG on January 15, 2022, 04:31:47 PM
The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

Hello, we have certainly never claimed that there is no connection. We have stated previously that both sites are part of the same network, however the operations are separate. Meaning Playbetr is run by a separate team, which has their own rules and ways of doing business. An example of this would be how LVMH brands has Louis Vuitton and Fendi under its umbrella, but they are completely separate companies, although some promotion may overlap.

Regarding the license badge, it is certainly valid and we will work with our development team to get the verification tool working as it should be. Thank you.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: decodx on January 15, 2022, 08:34:23 PM
The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

Hello, we have certainly never claimed that there is no connection. We have stated previously that both sites are part of the same network, however the operations are separate. Meaning Playbetr is run by a separate team, which has their own rules and ways of doing business.

Okay, I appreciate you clarifying that. However, to be perfectly honest, I couldn't find such a statement in your post history. Although you didn't explicitly state there is no connection, but to a specific question like this example, I would say the message was ambiguous at best.

I think it would be smart to answer some people on the forum here. If you ignore everything, people will not think you are very professional.
Is it true that playbetr is from the same owner?

Hello, there has not been a single inquiry that has gone unanswered here. As we have stated before, Playbetr and many other sites share a similar software provider. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: mak013 on January 16, 2022, 04:56:43 PM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made nice job, thx.

It's not a requirement to deposit and play but these casinos listed will likely ask for KYC if they think your account is abusing like in the case of one complainant

But it is required when i plan to get my money back. Withdrawal is the most important part of gambling, as for me. I don`t remember problems with deposit anywhere.

As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

You are bound by the rules and casino is bound to protect the integrity of their system and the only way casinos can do that is to do KYC on account that they think is a fraud or abusing their features, yes Cryptocurrency can help us anonymize our presence in casinos as long as you are following rules and the casino is compliant to regulators and reputable you are still safe.
Yes, it is so, they have rules and we decide to follow them or to look at other casino. But the main purpose of cryptocurrencies is anonymity and with KYC we lose it - does not matter what cryptocurrency and how do you use, if casino has your ID.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 17, 2022, 02:40:27 PM
Update: Added two more casinos in the table today. Removed * mark from CryptoGames casino as they have brought back the license validator link after notifying them (https://i.imgur.com/24xQF8V.jpg) about it. Included some details of Curacao gambling license. @Beparanf, now you should know that how to verify the license ;). (There is another way to verify the license. Currently I'm observing the available method. I will try to update it in the near future.)

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
  • Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
  • Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
  • Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
  • Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)
https://i.imgur.com/CIrR3fU.png https://i.imgur.com/FxYcQV8.png https://i.imgur.com/PZgFQCK.png https://i.imgur.com/eTOVXPK.png

Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: notblox1 on January 17, 2022, 11:20:11 PM
OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on January 17, 2022, 11:30:35 PM
OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.

As for Costa Rica, as far as I know, there is no such thing as a gambling license in this country. Apparently, when registering a company, it is enough to specify "gambling" as the purpose of the business and it is enough to be able to legally run a casino there.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: aioc on January 18, 2022, 04:49:41 AM
OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.

Although it will require a lot of effort and time it will benefit the community if the license issue is added to the list, it's also ok if the terms of service and information about the license issuer are also included but I leave it to OP if they take our suggestion but like all the others are saying
this is a great compilation and it will help the community to pick the right casino to play.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: michellee on January 18, 2022, 05:04:47 AM
I'm also wondering how the system will suspect the underage users. Maybe they will observe the betting patterns. They may contact the user if they find it unusual than all other bettors. And it isn't so hard to determine an underage person by doing some conversation with them.
Probably they still have some restricted countries as they had license before. Some countries have strict laws against gambling. It could be a reason to keep the restrictions on some countries as well.
From all of that, I am only concerned about underage users as underage users can easily access all websites without their parents knowing what they do. For example, the underage visit the casinos and finally, they think that the games are enjoyable. Their curiosity will be bigger than adult people's, so they search for more info about how they can play using real money (in this matter, they will try to have crypto). In the end, they really play using crypto.

The casino will not know who their user that playing many gambling games on their site. However, the casino can observe the betting patterns, that still difficult to determine their users. Even if the casino use KYC to know their users, that is still not easy to detect.

I am sure the casino can apply this for the restricted countries and already had blocklists from the country that can not access the site. Hopefully, parents can take these important jobs for their kids before it is too late to realize their kids have a gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 18, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.
I haven't checked BTC365 yet. But all of the listed casinos are operating with Curacao gambling license (except Blackjack.fun). However, they are working on it and they said it will be available within this month. You will find that every casino is operating with one of those 4 master license providers of Curacao. I believe it isn't hard to find out the details as I have already added some information about the 4 master license operators in the post. But I will keep your suggestion if I find any popular crypto casino with other license providers without Curacao gambling providers.

~snip~
There is no way for a casino to prevent those underage players. Although, it will be possible if a casino makes the KYC (identity documents verification) requirements mandatory during sign-up.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: michellee on January 19, 2022, 01:35:11 AM
~snip~
There is no way for a casino to prevent those underage players. Although, it will be possible if a casino makes the KYC (identity documents verification) requirements mandatory during sign-up.
If that is the case, it can change the crypto casinos if they apply that and make many crypto gamblers not choose the casinos that use KYC during the sign-up. Hopefully, the casino will not apply that in registrations because crypto is about anonymous and we only want to play on the casino that is free from KYC for withdrawing for some amount. Many of us only use gambling as a fun thing.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Xinarae* on January 19, 2022, 04:26:46 PM
Many a times this kyc does not carry personal information and gamblers are harmed irresponsible financial service providers may lack data security and hacks can steal your personal data. Goals are more important than money for the effort and support to get a gambling license for business because earning money is automatically followed, just as we all have to earn which is why we are most helpful than many referral kyc.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on January 26, 2022, 07:13:02 PM
Update: Added three new casinos details in the list. They are Cloudbet, TwiceDice and OwlGames. I'm working to add more casinos in the list. But I'm getting confused with the available informations in some casinos. Moreover, I got strange response from some casinos support team when I asked for the details of gambling license and KYC policy.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: notblox1 on January 26, 2022, 08:34:02 PM
Update: Added three new casinos details in the list. They are Cloudbet, TwiceDice and OwlGames. I'm working to add more casinos in the list. But I'm getting confused with the available informations in some casinos. Moreover, I got strange response from some casinos support team when I asked for the details of gambling license and KYC policy.
Maybe they think you are part of some government regulators if you ask them many questions about that sensitive information :)
I like that you organized the list in alphabetical order but I would like to see more info for license number and link if possible.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: toast on January 26, 2022, 09:06:35 PM
the kyc will always remain something that will continue to exist in the gambling world. It is that it is all crypto related gambling, but on cross-section bookmakers site I think there is already a kyc everywhere. Once you've passed the kyc, you should be fine. Unfortunately, there are also a number of sites that use kyc as an excuse to stretch payouts that way. I don't think that's the intention. Actually, there should be a clear policy for every gambling site with regard to the kyc, so for example always from a certain amount, just to name a few.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Haunebu on January 26, 2022, 09:16:10 PM
Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: slaman29 on January 27, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.

I would agree with this. For me, as long as the site HAS an allowance or a need for KYC, then you should mark the casino as KYC needed, or "KYC will be needed in long term". I know it is unfair to some casinos who only ask for KYC in extreme circumstances compared to casinos who ask every withdrawal or every win, but for the benefit of the player, they should know what they are getting into and then maybe have a separate rating for KYC fairness?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: AicecreaME on January 27, 2022, 11:38:12 AM
Kindly avoid making discussion whether you like the KYC process or not. This isn't a discussion topic.

At first crypto casino was well known for anonymous betting platform. But with the implementation of gambling license in crypto casino KYC has become a common thing now. However, KYC isn't mandatory for all of the users. You can still play at most of the crypto betting sites without verifying your identity. But a casino may ask you to verify your identity if they find it necessary. There are several reasons behind it

  • To Determine the Identity and Location: This is the most common reason for asking identity verification. Online casino doesn't allow underage gambling. You must need to be older than 18 years to place bets. Beside that, most of the casino has placed some country restrictions. Casino will ask for KYC verification if the system suspect any users for breaking those terms.
  • AML and Coin Mixing Policy: To prevent anti money laundering and coin mixing policy casino reserve the right to ask for KYC verification. Try to avoid suspicious activity and always complete the rollover/wagering requirements.
  • To Prevent the Abuses: Many bettors create multiple accounts to take the benefits of promotions. Few bettors use some illegal algorithm to win their bets. Crypto casino asks for KYC verification if the system detect any suspicious activity like this.
  • Some Other Factors: Identity verification is also required in case of bigger withdrawals. There could be few other reasons too which depends on the license provider and services of the casino.

- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

Casino Name|License|KYC Requirements|KYC details
Anonibet (https://anonibet.com/)|No|No (https://i.imgur.com/Xeqw8uG.jpg)|N/A
BC.Game (https://bc.game/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/AeYwSIS.jpg))|Identity documents: photo of your Govt. approved ID card, driver's license and passport. Proof of address, Source of funds.
BetChain (https://www.betchain.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/dQuNcrQ.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betcoin (https://www.betcoin.ag/)|Yes *|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/LCEk6fO.jpg))|A selfie with a note to the casino, a phone call or verification of a player via live video call (Skype), copy of government Identification, passport, and recent utility or cable bill.
BetFury (https://betfury.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/qw3ELJh.jpg))|Identity documents: a picture of passport, driver's license, or national ID card. Proof of address: picture of recent utility bill listing your name and address.
BetHash (https://bethash.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/JQHBc8W.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
BetJa (https://betja.com/)|No|No (https://i.imgur.com/fqKIAo4.jpg)|N/A
Betnomi (https://www.betnomi.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/1ccqt9i.jpg))|Identity documents: passport, ID card, driving license. Proof of address: utility bill or other possible methods. Source of funds.
Bitcasino (https://bitcasino.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Fy4rWet.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
Bitsler (https://www.bitsler.com)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/TMk4VQu.jpg))|Level 1 KYC is mandatory to access the 3rd party providers slots game. They may request for Identity Documents, Proof of Address and a selfie with identity documents.
BlackJack (https://blackjack.fun/)|Yes *|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/gyV7U9q.jpg))|Identity documents: government Issued ID, a selfie with the documents. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds: bank statement.
Bustabit (https://www.bustabit.com/)|No|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/5v4KT1r.jpg)|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Bustadice (https://bustadice.com/)|No|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/5v4KT1r.jpg)|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Chips (https://chips.gg/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/9RZ7U9m.jpg))|ID Verification: National ID Card, Passport, Drivers License. Proof of Address: Utility Bill. Source of Funds: Bank Statement, Tax Return.
CoinRoyale (https://coinroyale.com/)|No|Uncommon (https://i.imgur.com/pQ1528i.jpg)|Depends on the request of casino team.
Cloudbet (https://www.cloudbet.com/en/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Co5KL9M.jpg))|Identity documents: national ID, international passport. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
CryptoGames (https://crypto.games)|Yes |Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/rCUER2B.jpg))|Identity Documents, Proof of Address and other required information (based on the request of casino team).
Duelbits (https://duelbits.com)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/ug2s1Nu.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of Address
Exbet (https://exbet.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/8xZQHZd.jpg))|Identity documents: passport, driver's licence or national ID card. Proof of address.
Fairspin (https://fairspin.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/dtK0UL5.jpg))|Identity documents: govt. ID, passport, driver's license. Proof of address.
Flush (https://flush.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/oynApeg.jpg))|Identity documents: government issued identity card, or passport, or driving license. Proof of Address. Source of funds.
FortuneJack (https://fortunejack.com)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/A68ljzJ.jpg))|It depends on the cases. Normally, valid certified ID verification with a selfie.
FreeBitco (https://freebitco.in/)|No|No|N/A
Futuur (https://futuur.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/X9u80H8.jpg))|Identity documents: certified copies of identity cards. Proof of address. Source of funds: bank statements, photocopy of your credit cards.
Jacksclub (https://jacksclub.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/qikOcAj.jpg))|Selfie video. Identity documents: Passport, driver's license or national ID card.
OneHash (https://www.onehash.com/)|Yes *|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/DF5vTAi.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
OwlGames (https://owl.games/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/huw4ubd.jpg))|Identity documents: passport, national ID Card. Proof of address: utility bills. Source of funds.
Paradice (https://paradice.in/)|No|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/OHGpFQY.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
PlayBetr (https://www.playbetr.com)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Xu7rQrQ.jpg))|Identity documents: birth certificate, driving licence, passport, signed credit agreement, citizen/national identity card. Source of funds: utility bill or bank statement.
Primedice (https://primedice.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/57Kyz69.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rocketpot (https://rocketpot.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/xIXJGAN.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rollbit (https://rollbit.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/03nNS9O.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of Address, Source of funds.
Roobet (https://roobet.com)|Yes|Yes|Level 1 KYC is mandatory. They may request for Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds verification process.
Sportsbet (https://sportsbet.io/sports)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/TSb4zFU.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s licence. - Proof of address: Utility bill or Bank statement.
Stake (https://stake.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/FUqjlW0.jpg))|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Tower (https://tower.bet/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/Xg9cr0v.jpg))|Identity documents. User may need to complete further verification steps (based on the request of casino team)
TwiceDice (https://twicedice.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/icW23JA.jpg))|Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s license, National ID card, Residence card. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
VIPGame (https://vipgame.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/2y84FWd.jpg))|Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
WinDice (https://windice.io/)|No|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/sZBpUoZ.jpg))|Depends on the request of casino team.
Winz (https://winz.io/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/MihB796.jpg))|Identity documents: driver’s license, ID card, passport. Proof of address: utility bills with the name and address on it. Source of funds.
Wolf (https://wolf.bet/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/8huQPcf.jpg))|User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).
500Casino (https://500play.com/)|Yes|Yes (If needed (https://i.imgur.com/9ilP7vh.jpg))|Identity documents: National ID, Passport, Driver's license. Proof of address: utility bill & Source of funds.
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Note: The * mark casino have license information available at the site, but they don't have the license validator link available yet. Some of them are working on it.

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
  • Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
  • Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
  • Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
  • Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)
https://i.imgur.com/CIrR3fU.png https://i.imgur.com/FxYcQV8.png https://i.imgur.com/PZgFQCK.png https://i.imgur.com/eTOVXPK.png

Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.

Always check the Terms and conditions, KYC and AML policy of the casino to get more details about the KYC verification.

Other informative topics for bettors
• 🔻 List of Casinos and Sportbooks to Avoid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.0)
• (Table) Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333602.0)
• (LIST) Gambling sites with internal exchange (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282289.0)
• List Of Crypto Casinos with The Best Faucets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341966.0)

I would like to commend you for doing this informative table. This will be very helpful for those people who want to enter gambling and are still having a hard time to decide in picking which one they would choose to be their go-to. This thread is one of the topics that is needed and has to be n this forum because some are naive about it. As for suggestions, perhaps you could add another column that states whether what they do with all the data they have collected. It would be much appreciated if there would be a disclosement of how the private information from the KYC are going. If it is secured entirely from other platforms and are solely for the casinos record only, or is it being passed to other platforms such as online shopping sites, websites, and social media platforms. Because after all, the KYC process involves private information. It is also important to know what these casinos do to their clients records.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on January 27, 2022, 11:46:25 AM
Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.

I would agree with this. For me, as long as the site HAS an allowance or a need for KYC, then you should mark the casino as KYC needed, or "KYC will be needed in long term". I know it is unfair to some casinos who only ask for KYC in extreme circumstances compared to casinos who ask every withdrawal or every win, but for the benefit of the player, they should know what they are getting into and then maybe have a separate rating for KYC fairness?
I remember with nostalgia those times when no one thought about any KYC, much less demanded it, even if you need to take $100-150... in your wallet.
Now everything has changed, and the worst thing is that this KYC is required in different ways, up to the video image of the face.
But it is known that all personal data bases are constantly leaking somewhere, they are hacked or simply sold, and all this data of yours may well be widely available, including to criminals and various scammers.
And using your stolen personal video data, scammers can create you virtual in the metaverse and then do all sorts of bad things on your behalf.
That's where I see the danger of these fucking and endless KYC.

And so, - in general, OP created an excellent topic!
The first post is above the best praise!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: slaman29 on January 28, 2022, 12:15:50 PM
And so, - in general, OP created an excellent topic!
The first post is above the best praise!

Well to be honest I do not think it was just crypto or just gambling alone. I remember using a lot of services, even money services and none of them asked for KYC. Now to even find a website or service that does not even ask for an email or phone is impossible.

I personally think we have to accept that once crypto becomes more and more recognized we have to bow with the regulations OR support more services that use anonymous crypto or accept BTC in ways that are still more private.

So maybe one purpose of this topic is to highlight services that still don't ask for KYC?

Totally agree great topic, merit it ;)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: michellee on January 28, 2022, 12:35:46 PM
I remember with nostalgia those times when no one thought about any KYC, much less demanded it, even if you need to take $100-150... in your wallet.
Now everything has changed, and the worst thing is that this KYC is required in different ways, up to the video image of the face.
I am sure we all miss that time, especially for those who knew bitcoin from 2013-to 2018 which do not require KYC for playing gambling. That is regulations from the crypto gambling site because they must follow the new rules from the provider and the providers follow the government rules.

We can not do anything but luckily, we have some crypto gambling sites that still do not require KYC to play gambling so we do not have to worry about any limitations. But some crypto gambling sites still need KYC for those gamblers who want to withdraw for some big amount and can accept that.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 04, 2022, 12:00:12 PM
Update: Just added the information of 5 more casinos. They are Gamdom, MintDice, PlayBitcoinGames, Rocket Run and Thunderpick.

I like that you organized the list in alphabetical order but I would like to see more info for license number and link if possible.
Alphabetic order is better than the random order. I didn't give priority to any random or popular casino here. Not to mention, the list only contains legit casino who doesn't have bad reputation. About the license number or link, it isn't possible to add the validator link in this topic. But I will add the license registration number and company name of each casino on my next update. Currently there is a way to verify the Curacao gambling license (license provider company) of a casino by searching with their registration number or the company name. I'm giving the example of two casino here:

Quote
Sportsbet.io: mBet Solutions N.V. (Curaçao) (the ‘Company’) (‘We’) is a company registered and incorporated in Curacao with Company registration: 129230.

Stake.com: Stake is owned and operated by Medium Rare N.V., registration number: 145353, registered address: Fransche Bloemweg, 4 Willemstad Curaçao.
Firstly, visit here: http://www.curacao-chamber.cw/services/registry/search-company
Then search with the company name or the registration number from the page. After that, click on the tradename from the search result and complete the captcha to view the information of the license. It will give an error message if the license company/registration number isn't valid/available now. Curacao commercial register of Sportsbet and Stake

https://i.imgur.com/gna5ekl.jpg

So maybe one purpose of this topic is to highlight services that still don't ask for KYC?
This topic is created to make the KYC requirements and license details available at a single place, so that the bettors can easily get the information here.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on February 04, 2022, 04:40:37 PM
Currently there is a way to verify the Curacao gambling license (license provider company) of a casino by searching with their registration number or the company name.

If we know the company registration number, there is a direct url that can be used to get an Excerpt from the Curaçao Commercial Register.
It's just a matter of replacing the ID number with the correct registration number of the company you want to check.

For example this is a direct url for mBet Solutions N.V. company (Sportsbet.io), with registration number 129230:
http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=129230

Maybe you can use this to create active links in your table when adding company registration numbers.
Great job, by the way.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 04, 2022, 05:12:23 PM
~snip~
Thanks man! You have made it easier for me now. I wasn't aware of this direct link. I will make a different column within next few days with the Curacao gambling company registration number and the verifier link of each casino. However, this system won't work for those casinos who doesn't operate with Curacao gambling license. As example: blackjack.fun.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: mindrust on February 04, 2022, 05:31:10 PM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Raflesia on February 04, 2022, 05:45:21 PM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.
For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: nakamura12 on February 04, 2022, 05:52:01 PM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.
Probably a problem for some gamblers where if a casino have license means that some gamblers from a country where gambling is illegal so it really is a pain in the ass. It's just like the casino where I came across where the country where I'm from is in the list of countries that are blocked or illegal them that means if a gambler from that country gambled big time then request a cash out and the casino ask for KYC then that gamble would surely won't be able to cash it out due to that reason.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 04, 2022, 06:08:18 PM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I somehow agree with your statement. Though what bothers me are unlicensed online gambling websites as they are unregulated. Though this may be the case, this can easily be remedied if the gambling website has proven itself to be relatively 'trustworthy' through the test of time (e.g. their overall time of service, etc.). But generally, I avoid unlicensed gambling websites especially if they are brand new and if they are still establishing their name on the market.

As for KYC, it is definitely a no-brainer for me. Why would I ever want to expose my identity to something that is unregulated/regulated which can potentially leak my information?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: wxa7115 on February 04, 2022, 09:10:34 PM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I somehow agree with your statement. Though what bothers me are unlicensed online gambling websites as they are unregulated. Though this may be the case, this can easily be remedied if the gambling website has proven itself to be relatively 'trustworthy' through the test of time (e.g. their overall time of service, etc.). But generally, I avoid unlicensed gambling websites especially if they are brand new and if they are still establishing their name on the market.

As for KYC, it is definitely a no-brainer for me. Why would I ever want to expose my identity to something that is unregulated/regulated which can potentially leak my information?
I think the same, every time we bow down to a centralized authority then they are free to put forward whatever regulations that they like, it is true that gambling in an unlicensed casino is a risk especially if it is relatively new, but if the casino has shown through their actions that they are to be trusted then that is more than enough to me.

After all the main reason that made gambling with cryptocurrencies so successful at the beginning was the ability to gamble without the need of going through KYC policies.

BTW great thread OP, merited.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: johhnyUA on February 04, 2022, 09:24:06 PM
License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 05, 2022, 12:00:07 AM
License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

we have seen here that there are some licensed casinos that don't require KYC. unless, you are a high roller and you surpass their limits ( usually 2k EUR or 2k USD). otherwise, you can play without worrying about KYC. and they have gaming license.
just to give example is stake and betfury. it says from the table that they are licensed, but kyc is only done if needed. and one thing you need to keep in mind is accumulated deposits/withdrawals.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on February 05, 2022, 08:07:15 AM
License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license?

Can't agree. I, for example, use bet365 where everyone needs to pass through KYC. And because 365bet has UK license I'm sure that my identity maybe in bigger danger than no-KYC but at the same time much safer that book will not disappear into sunset.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

we have seen here that there are some licensed casinos that don't require KYC. unless, you are a high roller and you surpass their limits ( usually 2k EUR or 2k USD). otherwise, you can play without worrying about KYC. and they have gaming license.
just to give example is stake and betfury. it says from the table that they are licensed, but kyc is only done if needed. and one thing you need to keep in mind is accumulated deposits/withdrawals.

It is absolutely true that it is written above that passing KYC can cause problems, and if KYC is not required, then this can also cause problems. In short, it turns out that in any case there may be problems for the gamers. And there are only two problems:
1. There is no way to get the winnings if KYC has not passed  >:(
2. If you winnings and you have passed KYC then it fell under the control of the tax service and apparently will have to be divided- part government :(. But this is in good countries where there are no gangs of extortionists. And in bad countries, with high crime, everything can be taken away. So whatever one may say this damn KYC is nothing but problems. And what bastard came up with it and now demands it everywhere?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: UserU on February 05, 2022, 09:00:05 AM

It is absolutely true that it is written above that passing KYC can cause problems, and if KYC is not required, then this can also cause problems. In short, it turns out that in any case there may be problems for the gamers. And there are only two problems:
1. There is no way to get the winnings if KYC has not passed  >:(
2. If you winnings and you have passed KYC then it fell under the control of the tax service and apparently will have to be divided- part government :(. But this is in good countries where there are no gangs of extortionists. And in bad countries, with high crime, everything can be taken away. So whatever one may say this damn KYC is nothing but problems. And what bastard came up with it and now demands it everywhere?

If you've not directly dealt with casino daily operations, it might be hard to understand why they take KYC seriously.

They're there to make sure some underaged kid which shouldn't be gambling in the first place to bring back a huge sum that would be problematic, given he or she is below the legal requirement.

And then there's some people that prefer to whitewash their stolen funds.

Nobody wants to be (in)directly involved in someone else's dirty affairs.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Sirait on February 05, 2022, 10:01:56 AM
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If you've not directly dealt with casino daily operations, it might be hard to understand why they take KYC seriously.

They're there to make sure some underaged kid which shouldn't be gambling in the first place to bring back a huge sum that would be problematic, given he or she is below the legal requirement.

And then there's some people that prefer to whitewash their stolen funds.

Nobody wants to be (in)directly involved in someone else's dirty affairs.
@op it's a great table. to be honest the pros and cons of KYC will continue to emerge, many support, many also reject but from my personal perception, I support what you say. KYC is great for preventing minors from gambling as well as deterring money launderers, I hope we can all respect the rules made by a gambling site because they want to do business in the long term.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: decodx on February 05, 2022, 10:24:13 AM
If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.

I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

I don't think that's true. There are a number of licensed casinos that do not require KYC for low-budget players. In fact, most casinos will require KYC only if you're a high-roller or withdrawing large sums of money.

Read the OP's post if you haven't already.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: izsara on February 05, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
Agree with this. Those casinos that do not require KYC will be a place for us to play gambling. If I see the casino ask for KYC, I will leave it and not try to verify my account because I only want to have fun and not chase the money from the games.

However, there will be a gambler who will verify themselves in the casino and mostly, those people want to play in a big amount and if their account is verified, they can deposit in large money to gamble.
it depends on the options implemented and indeed KYC is not as bad as one might think especially for those who gamble in bigger money. actually they need something like this KYC to verify them and it will be quite useful for them if something untoward happens with their account.
but indeed there are still a lot of people who don't want kyc and that is quite normal as we just want to have fun and don't really want this kind of thing for gambling.
this is depending on what we choose regardless of KYC or not that is also a choice


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: MinerHQ on February 06, 2022, 01:31:51 AM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.
For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.

If one playing with crypto then there shouldn't be any kyc. I don't care about the license as long as we can trust the casino.

Providing our personal information to these casinos is not safe and soon or later these details will be sold on dark websites. So I never bother to check a casino if they ask of kyc.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Quidat on February 06, 2022, 01:53:54 AM
No License, No KYC casinos are my favorites.

License means regulations, regulations means problems. Why would a casino need a license? The only thing a casino needs is a good reputation and it only takes some time to build it. freebitco.in is a very good example.

If I can't access to a casino like this, of course my second favorites are Licensed/No KYC casinos.
For the license I agree with what you said but for KYC actually it's still fifty fifty in my opinion.
maybe for people who only gamble with small bets and gamble just for fun I feel that KYC is not really needed but on the other hand we also can't forget some people who gamble in big enough bets and I still feel KYC could be a pretty good thing for them.
apart from verifying their identity, this can also be used to minimize the fact that their account doesn't transfer to someone else so things like KYC will still be important to them even though most gamblers don't like it.

If one playing with crypto then there shouldn't be any kyc. I don't care about the license as long as we can trust the casino.

Providing our personal information to these casinos is not safe and soon or later these details will be sold on dark websites. So I never bother to check a casino if they ask of kyc.
Then how you would be thinking into those traditional services on which we are mainly passing up our documentation or overall information? This had been a common
thing that we've been dealing everyday and you cant be sure that there wouldnt be any leak outs with those information.For these crypto gambling sites then we
know that having a license could really give out some boost in terms of trust into the community on where gamblers would be thinking that having a license
is showing off that they are dealing with a legit site which i cant blame them but we know that license isnt everything.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FrankBank on February 06, 2022, 03:17:39 AM
Many Casinos are simply obliged to state in their KYC that they require it if they are holding a license. Doesn't mean a casino would actually do it. Unless they suspect something but something far more serious like money laundering, otherwise I agree it shouldn't be applied to the crypto users. Defeats the purpose and the what it's suppose to stand for.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: judeafante on February 06, 2022, 03:47:31 AM
Many Casinos are simply obliged to state in their KYC that they require it if they are holding a license. Doesn't mean a casino would actually do it. Unless they suspect something but something far more serious like money laundering, otherwise I agree it shouldn't be applied to the crypto users. Defeats the purpose and the what it's suppose to stand for.
Even if the casino doesn't have or has not yet secured a license, once a user is suspected of abuse they will likely ask for KYC, not only abuse or withdrawing a huge amount but account recovery or a user forgetting his pin code or 2FA recovery, KYC is good to protect the casino and the player as well but they should not ask KYC as a mandatory requirement to play in their casino if they want more players in the Cryptocurrency community.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: slaman29 on February 06, 2022, 01:59:48 PM
So maybe one purpose of this topic is to highlight services that still don't ask for KYC?
This topic is created to make the KYC requirements and license details available at a single place, so that the bettors can easily get the information here.

Yes I get it ;) But I was wondering also, since we're all crypto users and crypto gamblers, can we also not try and push for more highlight for non-KYC sites/casinos? I mean I understand that licensing and regulations makes it impossible for KYC to be ignored, but we should still give some extra exposure for those crypto casinos that still do their best to provide a pure non-KYC experience that was originally the offering from crypto casinos.

Just my suggestion, great list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Cling18 on February 06, 2022, 03:46:23 PM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made a nice job, thx.

This table will surely be a big help especially for those who are wondering about the KYC requirements in each casino site. It might be hard for others to provide these requirements especially those who don't have the documents being asked but it is required and necessary for some reason. I think it would be better to prepare some documents ahead of time because we won't know the possible things that could happen in our gambling journey in the future.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: robelneo on February 07, 2022, 03:55:35 AM


This table will surely be a big help especially for those who are wondering about the KYC requirements in each casino site. It might be hard for others to provide these requirements especially those who don't have the documents being asked but it is required and necessary for some reason. I think it would be better to prepare some documents ahead of time because we won't know the possible things that could happen in our gambling journey in the future.

Some of the documents these casinos are asking are very similar to Crypto exchange like Driver's license, National Id and of course Passport, I'm sure every player has 1 or two of these documents, this is industry practice whether it's fiat or Cryptocurrency if you are going to dive you will get your feet wet so there's nothing we can do on casinos that asked for our ID, just pick the right casino to play and your vital pieces of information are safe.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Kakmakr on February 07, 2022, 06:25:36 AM
You can actually just make a list of casinos that are not asking for KYC information, because it will be way shorter than your current list. The trend with casinos seem to be to start without the strict KYC requirements and as soon as they hooked enough gamblers, they change that policy to ask for KYC information.

The KYC standard might be good for casinos, but it absolutely destroys Pseudo anonymity in Crypto currencies. Imagine if you were one of the Bitcoin whales and you are sitting on a couple of 1000 of coins and you have to give your personal information to a casino operator that might go scam later on.  ::) .... or your database get hacked or one of the employees get access to the information and they give it to a crime syndicate.  ::)

Stake.com started with a very relaxed KYC requirement, basically just asking for a email address... now they are aggressively encouraging people to validate higher levels of KYC requirements. 


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: perfect999 on February 07, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
You can actually just make a list of casinos that are not asking for KYC information, because it will be way shorter than your current list. The trend with casinos seem to be to start without the strict KYC requirements and as soon as they hooked enough gamblers, they change that policy to ask for KYC information.

The KYC standard might be good for casinos, but it absolutely destroys Pseudo anonymity in Crypto currencies. Imagine if you were one of the Bitcoin whales and you are sitting on a couple of 1000 of coins and you have to give your personal information to a casino operator that might go scam later on.  ::) .... or your database get hacked or one of the employees get access to the information and they give it to a crime syndicate.  ::)

Stake.com started with a very relaxed KYC requirement, basically just asking for a email address... now they are aggressively encouraging people to validate higher levels of KYC requirements. 
Actually I think the number of casinos that do not require a KYC are much more than the casinos that requires a KYC, you even said that in your reply. Casinos started without a KYC and then they will now require KYC later on but i think this practice is unethical but casino players will quit on playing with them if they are not comfortable with the KYC requirement.

Casinos are only risking the foundation that they already built only for this KYC. I tried playing on stake casino and no they do not force me to do a KYC. KYC on their site is just optional but doing a KYC can unlock some benefits and they can give you extra rewards if your participating on their promotions.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 10, 2022, 06:42:30 AM
I would like to see more info for license number and link if possible.
If we know the company registration number, there is a direct url that can be used to get an Excerpt from the Curaçao Commercial Register.
It's just a matter of replacing the ID number with the correct registration number of the company you want to check.
Added the Curacao commercial register number with verifier link in “License(Register)” column. Also added the individual company name of each casino by adding a “License Operator” column in the table. @FatFork, Thank you for the idea. @notblox1, now you can verify the Curacao commercial register of each casino. Hopefully it will help every forum members to know more about the casino license.

I have found some similarities between two casinos license operator during the process. They are BetChain.com and Winz.io. I will ask both casinos representative to give some clarification here regarding this matter.

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Copyright © 2020 www.betchain.com is owned and operated by Dama N.V., a company registered and established under the laws of Curaçao, with registration number 152125 and registered address at Julianaplein 36, Willemstad, Curaçao, and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Strukin Limited, registered address Pavlov Nirvana & Aipeias, 4, ALPHA TOWER, Floor 1, Flat 11, 3021, Limassol, Cyprus, and registration number HE 407624. Dama N.V. is licensed and regulated by Antillephone N.V. (license no. 8048/JAZ2020-013).

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Copyright © 2021 Winz.io is owned and operated by Dama N.V., a company registered and established under the laws of Curaçao, with registration number 152125 and registered address at Julianaplein 36, Willemstad, Curaçao, and its wholly-owned subsidiary, Friolion Limited, registered in Cyprus with registration number HE 419102 and registered address Leandrou, 12A 3086, Limassol, Cyprus. Dama N.V. is licensed and regulated by Antillephone N.V. (license no. 8048/JAZ2020-013).


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on February 10, 2022, 10:00:55 AM
I have found some similarities between two casinos license operator during the process. They are BetChain.com and Winz.io. I will ask both casinos representative to give some clarification here regarding this matter.

Yes, both casinos appear to be owned and operated by the same company, Dama N.V., and share the same gambling license. In addition, as far as I can tell, their Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policies are nearly identical. This isn't unusual in the world of crypto gambling, as there are numerous platforms that operate in the same way. Knowing this, however, is useful because if there is a problem with one platform, we can anticipate potential threats with others related platforms before they happen.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: poldanmig on February 10, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
You can actually just make a list of casinos that are not asking for KYC information, because it will be way shorter than your current list. The trend with casinos seem to be to start without the strict KYC requirements and as soon as they hooked enough gamblers, they change that policy to ask for KYC information.

The KYC standard might be good for casinos, but it absolutely destroys Pseudo anonymity in Crypto currencies. Imagine if you were one of the Bitcoin whales and you are sitting on a couple of 1000 of coins and you have to give your personal information to a casino operator that might go scam later on.  ::) .... or your database get hacked or one of the employees get access to the information and they give it to a crime syndicate.  ::)

Stake.com started with a very relaxed KYC requirement, basically just asking for a email address... now they are aggressively encouraging people to validate higher levels of KYC requirements. 
Actually I think the number of casinos that do not require a KYC are much more than the casinos that requires a KYC, you even said that in your reply. Casinos started without a KYC and then they will now require KYC later on but i think this practice is unethical but casino players will quit on playing with them if they are not comfortable with the KYC requirement.

Casinos are only risking the foundation that they already built only for this KYC. I tried playing on stake casino and no they do not force me to do a KYC. KYC on their site is just optional but doing a KYC can unlock some benefits and they can give you extra rewards if your participating on their promotions.
If indeed the casino can guarantee to maintain the security of our personal identity, I think there is nothing wrong with doing kyc from the beginning to register to meet their requirements, my friend once had experience betting on local online gambling sites and they did not make kyc as the initial requirements to join the site, but when my friend got the jackpot with a large enough prize, suddenly the site said the player account could not make the first withdrawal on the grounds that it had not been kyc and canceled the prize.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: winz.io on February 10, 2022, 02:42:22 PM
I have found some similarities between two casinos license operator during the process. They are BetChain.com and Winz.io. I will ask both casinos representative to give some clarification here regarding this matter.

Yes, both casinos appear to be owned and operated by the same company, Dama N.V., and share the same gambling license. In addition, as far as I can tell, their Terms and Conditions and Privacy Policies are nearly identical. This isn't unusual in the world of crypto gambling, as there are numerous platforms that operate in the same way. Knowing this, however, is useful because if there is a problem with one platform, we can anticipate potential threats with others related platforms before they happen.


This is a great question and pops up frequently. Same as all companies utilizing the Dama NV license, we use technical infrastructure and a license as a 3rd party service provided to us. However, the owner and management of both casinos are not affiliated.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on February 10, 2022, 04:27:16 PM

If indeed the casino can guarantee to maintain the security of our personal identity, I think there is nothing wrong with doing kyc from the beginning to register to meet their requirements, my friend once had experience betting on local online gambling sites and they did not make kyc as the initial requirements to join the site, but when my friend got the jackpot with a large enough prize, suddenly the site said the player account could not make the first withdrawal on the grounds that it had not been kyc and canceled the prize.

You should not talk too naively about who is the owner of your personal data that you yourself sent to them when you performed the KYC procedure, which guarantees the preservation of this data and the non-disclosure of data to other persons and blocking public access.  Casinos can be forced to release confidential customer information by government agencies, or it can simply be hacked and made public.  Experience shows that this happens quite often.  A recent example is the hacking and publication of the leger hardware wallet customer base in the summer of 2000.  Then about a million buyers ceased to be anonymous.  And it was very painful for them.  So it is with the casino, information may not leak, or it may leak despite any security guarantees. 
In this, I see great harm to the psychological state of any client from these KYC, when, in fact, no casino needs any knowledge of the client at all.  It is generally redundant.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: wxa7115 on February 10, 2022, 07:53:40 PM
It is absolutely true that it is written above that passing KYC can cause problems, and if KYC is not required, then this can also cause problems. In short, it turns out that in any case there may be problems for the gamers. And there are only two problems:
1. There is no way to get the winnings if KYC has not passed  >:(
2. If you winnings and you have passed KYC then it fell under the control of the tax service and apparently will have to be divided- part government :(. But this is in good countries where there are no gangs of extortionists. And in bad countries, with high crime, everything can be taken away. So whatever one may say this damn KYC is nothing but problems. And what bastard came up with it and now demands it everywhere?
The reason why this is so common place is that politicians fear their citizens, and they do for one simple reason, they do not serve them anymore, and as such most of their policies can be explained by understanding that fear.

Why they try to regulate cryptocurrencies so much? Because they do not want people to have the freedom to do whatever they want with their money as that will weaken the control they have over them, and they are scared of that, so casinos and exchanges are always on their radar and as such slowly but surely they have accomplished their goal of most licensed casinos asking for your documents for whatever reason.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: terrific on February 10, 2022, 09:32:24 PM
If indeed the casino can guarantee to maintain the security of our personal identity
But the majority of us already lost that trust and confidence to any website and not just with the casinos that are asking kyc per se.

I think there is nothing wrong with doing kyc from the beginning to register to meet their requirements
Nothing wrong if you think that the casino is trustworthy and you're really fine doing that. But many of us won't agree with the same thing as what you've said.

my friend once had experience betting on local online gambling sites and they did not make kyc as the initial requirements to join the site, but when my friend got the jackpot with a large enough prize, suddenly the site said the player account could not make the first withdrawal on the grounds that it had not been kyc and canceled the prize.
Even in some casinos, when you hit a jackpot and you're about to withdraw. There's a big chance that they will ask you for it.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on February 10, 2022, 10:41:02 PM
Mahdirakib, you might want to include livecasino.io to the list. Livecasino.io is a sister brand of Bitcasino (which is already on your list) that focuses more on Live Casino games. Both platforms are managed by the same company, Moon Technologies B.V., and share the same Curaçao eGaming license:

https://verification.curacao-egaming.com/validateview.aspx?domain=livecasino.io

According to their representative, KYC requirements are the same as for Bitcasino, "if needed".

KYC: KYC is not required, unless some activities require extra checks, then KYC will be requested


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on February 11, 2022, 08:10:37 AM
....
According to their representative, KYC requirements are the same as for Bitcasino, "if needed".

KYC: KYC is not required, unless some activities require extra checks, then KYC will be requested

There are also such legal constructions built around the verification procedures, such as "you will have to pass KYC. if necessary, or KYC is required only in exceptional cases, etc."  All this is definitely slyness and deceit.  And you must immediately be prepared that KYC will have to be performed.  But, I think the lawyers wrote this way so that a person who does not want to introduce himself, but wants to remain anonymous, would have as little suspicion as possible that in the event of a withdrawal of the winnings, he would receive money and remain anonymous. 
But, I think experienced players know all these tricks on the part of lawyers and are ready to say goodbye to anonymity. :)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: johhnyUA on February 11, 2022, 09:11:16 PM
I think such casinos doesn't exists. Licensed means that customer will be forced to pass through KYC.

we have seen here that there are some licensed casinos that don't require KYC

What casinos? Give me a few examples, please

. unless, you are a high roller and you surpass their limits ( usually 2k EUR or 2k USD). otherwise, you can play without worrying about KYC. and they have gaming license.

2000 usd is total amount after which whey will ask you for KYC. At least this happened to me.

just to give example is stake and betfury.

Ok. And where this casinos licensed? On offshores?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 14, 2022, 04:16:25 PM
Update: Added 4 more casinos in the list. And they are EarnBet, Fairlay, Livecasino, TrustDice. @FatFork, Thank you for the suggestion about Livecasino.

This is a great question and pops up frequently. Same as all companies utilizing the Dama NV license, we use technical infrastructure and a license as a 3rd party service provided to us. However, the owner and management of both casinos are not affiliated.
Are there more casinos under the same company (Dama N.V.)? I have collected the data from many crypto casino, but I haven't found similarities like this. Bitcasino & Livecasino has the same license, because both platforms are owned and operated by the same team members. If BetChain.com and Winz.io aren't affiliated then why both casinos are using the same company license register? Will it cost much to have an unique license registered company?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on February 14, 2022, 08:06:36 PM
Are there more casinos under the same company (Dama N.V.)?

The following are some of the results of a quick Google search:

Quote
Dama N.V. Casinos
    Lucky Dreams
    Arlekin Casino
    Slotman Casino
    SlotVibe Casino
    Joo Casino
    Fightclub Casino
    Kosmonaut Casino
    7Bit Casino
    Slotum Casino
    Goodman Casino
    King Billy Casino
    LevelUp Casino
    Katsubet Casino
    Ricky Casino
    Queenspin Casino
    Kim Vegas Casino
    Oshi Casino
    Dazard Casino
    FastPay Casino
    Yoju Casino
    Winz Casino
    Gunsbet Casino
    Olympia Casio
    Wild Tornado
    Spin Samurai
    Bitkingz
    Kingdom Casino
    FortuneToWin
    Loki Casino
    GetSlots Casino
    Woo Casino
    mBit Casino
    Cobra Casino
    Bitcoin Casino
    Playamo Casino
    iLucki Casino
    Konung Casino
    Bao Casino
    Golden Star Casino
    Casino4u
    Greenspin.bet
    Cleopatra Casino
    BitStarz Casino
    CasinoChan
    DLX Casino
    Wild Blaster Casino
    Surf Casino
    TTR Casino
source: https://www.onlinecasinogroups.com/softswiss-casinos/

I honestly had no idea there were so many.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: YOSHIE on February 15, 2022, 06:32:52 AM
I think this thread should stay, stay at the top on the gambling board, what @Mahdirakib is doing, important information for newcomers who want to see and play gambling on existing sites, they can choose a gambling site which is good for them kyc or not.

So far, many gambling sites have sprung up, some have licenses, KYC and some have no clear information, it seems that anyone who wants to dive into the world of gambling should see and read this thread to avoid gambling sites that lead to scams.

@Mahdirakib, don't forget to add a new gambling site if there is one, of course the official one has a license and so on, must be honest and responsible.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 15, 2022, 06:23:32 PM
The following are some of the results of a quick Google search:
~snip~
I honestly had no idea there were so many.
This is quite surprising! A lot of casinos are operating under the Dama N.V. license. But Dama N.V. isn't a master license holder. Dama N.V. is just a company who is operating under Antillephone N.V. master license operators of Curacao. I'm wondering why there are so many casinos under the same company! I have checked few other casinos license operator too, but couldn't find more than one casino under the same license operator like this.

However, some of those Dama N.V. casinos has ANN thread in the forum: BitStarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0), mBit Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500697.0), Oshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936059.0), WildTornado Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280561.0), 7BitCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082051.0). All of those casinos representative aren't active in the forum. I would like to hear more about Dama N.V. operator from winz.io representative. I will ask them to give a response here again. (Congrats for your 1k merits achievement)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: pungopete468 on February 15, 2022, 06:41:32 PM
The following are some of the results of a quick Google search:
~snip~
I honestly had no idea there were so many.
This is quite surprising! A lot of casinos are operating under the Dama N.V. license. But Dama N.V. isn't a master license holder. Dama N.V. is just a company who is operating under Antillephone N.V. master license operators of Curacao. I'm wondering why there are so many casinos under the same company! I have checked few other casinos license operator too, but couldn't find more than one casino under the same license operator like this.

However, some of those Dama N.V. casinos has ANN thread in the forum: BitStarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0), mBit Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500697.0), Oshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936059.0), WildTornado Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280561.0), 7BitCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082051.0). All of those casinos representative aren't active in the forum. I would like to hear more about Dama N.V. operator from winz.io representative. I will ask them to give a response here again. (Congrats for your 1k merits achievement)
What I suspect is that it is some kind of Igaming provider/platform where sites can rent this software. And they then pay a commission of the profits made every month for example. That is not an unusual construction and there is an entire team that ensures that the software continues to run properly. It also seems to me too complicated to build your own site. The disadvantage is that you will quickly draw comparisons because all sites are part of the same company. That can be detrimental.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Loelo480 on February 16, 2022, 08:08:39 AM
Great table.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?

May be a bit hard to find that info, perhaps look at T&Cs?

It depends on each particular gambling site and I think that even if you find some information about this case in the T&Cs, everything is more or less flexible and depends on each particular case. However, as far as I know, most online casinos use this opportunity to prevent your withdrawals if you are unable to confirm your identity.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: winz.io on February 17, 2022, 05:48:09 PM
The following are some of the results of a quick Google search:
~snip~
I honestly had no idea there were so many.
This is quite surprising! A lot of casinos are operating under the Dama N.V. license. But Dama N.V. isn't a master license holder. Dama N.V. is just a company who is operating under Antillephone N.V. master license operators of Curacao. I'm wondering why there are so many casinos under the same company! I have checked few other casinos license operator too, but couldn't find more than one casino under the same license operator like this.

However, some of those Dama N.V. casinos has ANN thread in the forum: BitStarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0), mBit Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500697.0), Oshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936059.0), WildTornado Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280561.0), 7BitCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082051.0). All of those casinos representative aren't active in the forum. I would like to hear more about Dama N.V. operator from winz.io representative. I will ask them to give a response here again. (Congrats for your 1k merits achievement)

Same as in any other industry there is a supply chain in gambling. It consists of multiple layers, such as but not limited to: regulators, games and odds providers (separate industry itself and can be quite a layered cake), platform providers, payments providers, CRM systems, mailing, security, DDOS protection, technology, analytics and so on.

Same as other industries, the gambling industry is an ecosystem, with many industrial players competing for various niches. And same as in any other industry, every investor chooses how far to go from the perspective of vertical integration. There is a very wide choice on what operators can do in-house vs outsourcing.


We partially rely on a professional gambling technology provider, who also happens to offer a licensing solution. The provider is Softswiss (https://www.softswiss.com/), quite reputable and very reliable, utilizing best practices when it comes to IT security as well overall stability.

This path has upsides and downsides, in our particular case allowing us to focus on players and marketing and reduce the burden of massive back-end technology maintenance that a typical owner of technology has to live with. The same goes for licensing, we rely on Softswiss here.

We have been contemplating applying for our own license lately exactly for the reason that a natural question pops up why so many casinos and just one license. There is a good explanation, but it does pop up and we feel that it will continue to be so in the future. But we are in the middle of evaluating the pros and cons.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: paxmao on February 24, 2022, 12:47:49 PM
The following are some of the results of a quick Google search:
~snip~
I honestly had no idea there were so many.
This is quite surprising! A lot of casinos are operating under the Dama N.V. license. But Dama N.V. isn't a master license holder. Dama N.V. is just a company who is operating under Antillephone N.V. master license operators of Curacao. I'm wondering why there are so many casinos under the same company! I have checked few other casinos license operator too, but couldn't find more than one casino under the same license operator like this.

However, some of those Dama N.V. casinos has ANN thread in the forum: BitStarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0), mBit Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=500697.0), Oshi Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1936059.0), WildTornado Casino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280561.0), 7BitCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082051.0). All of those casinos representative aren't active in the forum. I would like to hear more about Dama N.V. operator from winz.io representative. I will ask them to give a response here again. (Congrats for your 1k merits achievement)
What I suspect is that it is some kind of Igaming provider/platform where sites can rent this software. And they then pay a commission of the profits made every month for example. That is not an unusual construction and there is an entire team that ensures that the software continues to run properly. It also seems to me too complicated to build your own site. The disadvantage is that you will quickly draw comparisons because all sites are part of the same company. That can be detrimental.


It may be a marketing strategy. There are some good benefits for the companies to have a number of casinos registered and it can be perfectly legitimate to be honest. Each of them may address a different public segment of age or habits or a different geographic area, country, etc... There is a less "noble" purpose to own a number of companies that is to saturate the market and avoid the competition entering the business. By default, nothing obviously wrong here.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on March 17, 2022, 06:12:49 PM
Update: Removed * mark from Betcoin.AG ‘License (Register)’ part as the representative of the casino has confirmed (through pm) that the license validator is available at the site now. I have checked it as well. Both PlayBetr and Betcoin casino operating under the same license. It shouldn't create any problem as we have seen few other casino which are operating under the same license operator.
Added the details of Bitgame in the original post. And I will update the details of BK8 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318340.0) casino soon.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Kakmakr on March 18, 2022, 07:19:51 AM
One of the oldest and most popular Crypto currency casinos, namely Freebitco.in are not licensed and they also do not require KYC details. What does that tell you about the "needs" of the "clients" in this industry?

How effective are the license operators in any way? When Stake.com offered a Lottery that were not allowed under their license, their license was suspended for a review... Stake then just renamed the Lottery to a Giveaway and their license was reinstated.  ::)

It is nice to know that some regulation are in place, but what teeth do they have... other than cancelling or suspending the license?  ::)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on March 18, 2022, 09:10:41 AM
One of the oldest and most popular Crypto currency casinos, namely Freebitco.in are not licensed and they also do not require KYC details. What does that tell you about the "needs" of the "clients" in this industry?

Gambling licenses don't appear to offer much benefits other than to ensure that behind every platform is a legitimate company that has all the necessary legal rights and responsibilities.

Freebitco.in is in a completely different ballpark. They have a long history and reputation in the community, so the license does not mean anything in their case, unlike many new gambling platforms that have sprung up without being vetted by the Bitcoin community.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: wiss19 on March 20, 2022, 06:34:50 PM
One of the oldest and most popular Crypto currency casinos, namely Freebitco.in are not licensed and they also do not require KYC details. What does that tell you about the "needs" of the "clients" in this industry?
Gambling licenses don't appear to offer much benefits other than to ensure that behind every platform is a legitimate company that has all the necessary legal rights and responsibilities.

Freebitco.in is in a completely different ballpark. They have a long history and reputation in the community, so the license does not mean anything in their case, unlike many new gambling platforms that have sprung up without being vetted by the Bitcoin community.
Having that sign of legitimacy in the form of a license is a benefit or an advantage because people won't doubt too much and they will play on that site. Every new site have that because that is one of their edge for them to get noticed by the player while most old gambling site don't have a license yet because I think regulation back on time are not heavy as today and even without a license, lots of people are still going to trust them due to their age.

One of the reason that I can think of on why freebitco doesn't have a license is because it was not a real gambling site but it is more on a faucet site where you can get free bitcoins. This is where the starters headed at and it will be a hassle if they are required to do a KYC only for this.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: MonsterV on March 20, 2022, 06:44:39 PM
One of the oldest and most popular Crypto currency casinos, namely Freebitco.in are not licensed and they also do not require KYC details. What does that tell you about the "needs" of the "clients" in this industry?
Gambling licenses don't appear to offer much benefits other than to ensure that behind every platform is a legitimate company that has all the necessary legal rights and responsibilities.

Freebitco.in is in a completely different ballpark. They have a long history and reputation in the community, so the license does not mean anything in their case, unlike many new gambling platforms that have sprung up without being vetted by the Bitcoin community.
Having that sign of legitimacy in the form of a license is a benefit or an advantage because people won't doubt too much and they will play on that site. Every new site have that because that is one of their edge for them to get noticed by the player while most old gambling site don't have a license yet because I think regulation back on time are not heavy as today and even without a license, lots of people are still going to trust them due to their age.

One of the reason that I can think of on why freebitco doesn't have a license is because it was not a real gambling site but it is more on a faucet site where you can get free bitcoins. This is where the starters headed at and it will be a hassle if they are required to do a KYC only for this.

Operating without a gambling license also has its advantages. You don't have a license, so you don't have an umbrella body that has to act as a supervisor. Nobody obliges a casino to perform a KYC. Many players do not feel like a KYC, and an unlicensed casino is easy. As a player you don't have a commission that you can rely on, which is a big disadvantage. But the KYC is also something that has increased significantly in recent years. I have the impression that things used to be much easier and that casinos were not under strict supervision, which is the case now. And then the type of license doesn't even matter. Speaking of the KYC and licensing, the MGA is also a big joke. I know of stories of people having issues with sites, and all the MGA does is check to see if a casino follows the terms and conditions. No matter what it says, the MGA says it's not their responsibility and they are solely responsible for enforcing the site's rules.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on March 23, 2022, 11:31:12 AM
One of the oldest and most popular Crypto currency casinos, namely Freebitco.in are not licensed and they also do not require KYC details. What does that tell you about the "needs" of the "clients" in this industry?
Gambling licenses don't appear to offer much benefits other than to ensure that behind every platform is a legitimate company that has all the necessary legal rights and responsibilities.

Freebitco.in is in a completely different ballpark. They have a long history and reputation in the community, so the license does not mean anything in their case, unlike many new gambling platforms that have sprung up without being vetted by the Bitcoin community.
Having that sign of legitimacy in the form of a license is a benefit or an advantage because people won't doubt too much and they will play on that site. Every new site have that because that is one of their edge for them to get noticed by the player while most old gambling site don't have a license yet because I think regulation back on time are not heavy as today and even without a license, lots of people are still going to trust them due to their age.

One of the reason that I can think of on why freebitco doesn't have a license is because it was not a real gambling site but it is more on a faucet site where you can get free bitcoins. This is where the starters headed at and it will be a hassle if they are required to do a KYC only for this.
I also think that when it comes to such old and trusted casinos as freebitco.in, having a license is just a formality.  Moreover, the presence of all kinds of licenses cannot be a 100% guarantee in the activities of any casino. 

Well, KYC is a nasty function thought out by the Americans to control everything and everyone, it's just a mockery of the very essence of the anonymity of cryptocurrencies, which has been the main and undeniable advantage of this alternative financial system since their very foundation by Satoshi Nakamoto.  By the way, the identity of Satoshi, which has not been unraveled, is another confirmation of the importance of anonymity. :)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: noormcs5 on March 23, 2022, 11:39:57 AM
Well, KYC is a nasty function thought out by the Americans to control everything and everyone, it's just a mockery of the very essence of the anonymity of cryptocurrencies, which has been the main and undeniable advantage of this alternative financial system since their very foundation by Satoshi Nakamoto.  By the way, the identity of Satoshi, which has not been unraveled, is another confirmation of the importance of anonymity. :)

Good that we still have a lot of good gambling sites which do not require us to do the KYC and KYC requirements in gambling are very limited.
Those gambling sites that make the KYC mandatory face a considerable decrease in their players playing at their sites because most of the gamblers prefer to remain anonymous. When there are so many options available where we can play gambling without KYC, then it's better we avoid the KYC casinos so they stop these KYC mandatory rules.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: ipanks on March 23, 2022, 11:41:52 AM
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But sadly, when it comes to governments, they can easily pressure crypto-based casinos to follow their rules and we have seen this happen on many sites. And this will later turn the casino into full anonymity and now it looks like web 3.0 has started to become a trend because gamblers can use their wallets directly without the need to register with a gambling site. It is also a form of anonymity so that the identity of the gamblers is not revealed because they are connected through their wallet and they can create the wallet whenever they want.

When this becomes a trend, the government will not be able to use KYC in full because casino sites also do not hold basic data from gamblers. Casino sites only know the address of the gambler's wallet without knowing who the gambler is. At that time, licensing only remained a formality for a casino.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Maslate on March 23, 2022, 04:10:07 PM
When there are so many options available where we can play gambling without KYC, then it's better we avoid the KYC casinos so they stop these KYC mandatory rules.

These mandatory KYC rules will not be stopped especially from a casino that has obtained its license from a regulator. You know, when a casino is regulated, the basic requirement is KYC, and you have to comply if you want to play. Actually, you can choose to gamble on casinos that do not require KYC, but what if they are unlicensed? would you choose comfort over security?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on March 24, 2022, 06:53:48 AM
When there are so many options available where we can play gambling without KYC, then it's better we avoid the KYC casinos so they stop these KYC mandatory rules.

These mandatory KYC rules will not be stopped especially from a casino that has obtained its license from a regulator. You know, when a casino is regulated, the basic requirement is KYC, and you have to comply if you want to play. Actually, you can choose to gamble on casinos that do not require KYC, but what if they are unlicensed? would you choose comfort over security?
The recent events with the freezing of the reserves of the central bank of Russia, i.e., in fact, the theft of these colossal funds on the instructions, I think the American authorities and financiers, shows how bad everything is in terms of financial guarantees and the preservation of private property rights.  And this is done at the state level!

 What can we say about some kind of guarantees from the availability of licenses and KYC. 
If it goes on like this, then the world will generally slide into barter in kind, as in the Middle Ages. 
And I think it’s certainly better to gamble without any KYC there.  I think most players will agree with me.  Because all these guarantees, as experience and the real development of events show, are all fiction and deceit.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: FatFork on March 25, 2022, 07:03:05 AM
And I think it’s certainly better to gamble without any KYC there.  I think most players will agree with me.  Because all these guarantees, as experience and the real development of events show, are all fiction and deceit.

Casinos ask for KYC for a reason, and if they don't, exercise caution when you deal with them. A casino that does not require KYC will have no license to speak of and no reason to pay you out if you win big unless they are a very long-standing, well-known and reputable casino operator. Even then, it can be a gamble. Of course there are exceptions, but in general you shouldn't be holding your fate in the hands of a casino if it means a portion of your money is gone. Instead, remember what casinos are really there for. This is not a charity. A cheap no-KYC casino is most likely a scam. Their main mission is to grab your money and run.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 07, 2022, 05:32:26 PM
Update: Added the details of BK8 and BTC365 in the list.

@Pmalek & @FatFork, I need some suggestions from both of you. I was checking two casinos, they are Bets.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374505.0) and Crashino.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387284.0). Both of them are advertising in the forum by adding “No KYC” in their title. While both casino reserves the right to ask for identity verification based on the rules of their terms.

Bets.io has gambling license. Identity verification requirement is mentioned in their terms (https://i.imgur.com/tCT9Syp.jpg). I asked their forum representative about this, but I'm not satisfied with their answer. (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374505.msg59033406#msg59033406))
Crashino.com doesn't have gambling license. But KYC verification requirement is also mentioned in their terms (https://i.imgur.com/F5KEuOj.jpg). I have asked to their representative as well, but they have ignored my question. (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387284.msg59357259#msg59357259))

I was planning to add both of them in the list, but I'm confused for their mixed and misleading information. What should I do?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Pmalek on April 09, 2022, 06:39:42 PM
Bets.io has gambling license. Identity verification requirement is mentioned in their terms (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/12/tlUOZ.jpeg). I asked their forum representative about this, but I'm not satisfied with their answer. (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374505.msg59033406#msg59033406))
Bets.io's casino admin completely ignored your last questions. I wouldn't attach too much importance to what he said because the casino's KYC states that they can and will ask for KYC if needed. I am certain that would happen in case of significant wins or if they believe a player is gambling from a location that is banned. If it was my thread, I would mention that players could be asked to go through KYC when they play at Bets.io.

Crashino.com doesn't have gambling license. But KYC verification requirement is also mentioned in their terms (https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/12/tlXn8.jpeg). I have asked to their representative as well, but they have ignored my question. (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387284.msg59357259#msg59357259))
They are claiming that KYC is needed to determine whether a player is underaged. That makes no sense. There is no way to determine that a player is underaged based on the casino games he plays, wagers, wins/losses. Since you were ignored, I would ask the question again. It could have been an honest mistake or maybe their casino rep didn't like your question. If they don't respond a second time, cross them off. That's what I would do. 


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 10, 2022, 04:02:27 PM
~snip~
Yeah, bets.io representative hasn't replied to my last question. And Crashino.com representative ignored my question too. Anyway, they will not give the clear answer if you ask them about it. Some other forum members has also asked the OP of Crashino.com about their KYC policy but they didn't give the appropriate answer to anyone. They said

We wish to clarify that we do not require any personal documents at sign up, deposit or withdrawal when playing with us, however as per usual T&C we may require some personal information in cases of suspected underage gambling or other breach of our Terms and Conditions.
Based on this statement, they may block the funds/withdrawal of their users by addressing that the user is underage or by saying that the user has breached their terms. And KYC will be asked in that case. So, advertising with ‘no KYC’ is really misleading.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Pmalek on April 10, 2022, 05:39:15 PM
We wish to clarify that we do not require any personal documents at sign up, deposit or withdrawal when playing with us, however as per usual T&C we may require some personal information in cases of suspected underage gambling or other breach of our Terms and Conditions.
Based on this statement, they may block the funds/withdrawal of their users by addressing that the user is underage or by saying that the user has breached their terms. And KYC will be asked in that case. So, advertising with ‘no KYC’ is really misleading.
To be clear, as long as you are "successfully" losing your money, you will not be suspected of being underaged or in breach of the casinos' terms and conditions. Such statements as the above by the Crashino forum representative are an insult to logic and intelligence. I would really like to know what systems and algorithms they have in place to look at a player's gambling history and patterns and determine that they are possibly dealing with an underaged player? Are there certain bets that a 17-year old would place but an 19-year old never would because he is of legal age? Nonsense.   


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: perla on April 10, 2022, 06:50:05 PM
From what I've read and heard, the license type doesn't even matter that much. Curacao, Costa Rica, MGA, it doesn't matter and the players only have to deal with complaints with a casino. There are a few gambling organizations just like in the UK that do stand up for the interests of customers. Licensing from Malta and Curacao is purely for the fact that these sites are allowed to offer it legally and not at all for the security and defense of the customer.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 10, 2022, 07:17:29 PM
I would really like to know what systems and algorithms they have in place to look at a player's gambling history and patterns and determine that they are possibly dealing with an underaged player? Are there certain bets that a 17-year old would place but an 19-year old never would because he is of legal age? Nonsense.   
A 15-17 years old is mature enough to manage their funds. They also knows how to take the risk with their funds. So, there won't be any difference between a 18 or above years old and 15 to 17 years old people betting pattern. There could be some differences in terms of risk management if any 12 or less years old start betting. Generally, no casino has any system to determine the underage gamblers.

Crashino.com KYC policy and advertising system is questionable from my view. The may suspect any user as an underage gambler. Then they will apply the identity verification rules to him. Moreover, they should block the user account if anyone breach their terms. I can't see the reason to apply the KYC requirement in that case.


~ A casino that does not require KYC will have no license to speak of and no reason to pay you out if you win big unless they are a very long-standing, well-known and reputable casino operator. ~snip~ A cheap no-KYC casino is most likely a scam. Their main mission is to grab your money and run.
Quoting this to give an example here. User ‘bambolina’ has created a scam accusation against ‘LTC Casino’ one month ago (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.0)). LTC Casino doesn't have the gambling license and KYC verification isn't required there. LTC Casino team aren't making much response in bitcointalk forum. Even they aren't cooperating with the casino guru team (who are working as a middleman to solve the complaint). And here is the last response which user ‘bambolina’ has received from casino guru team

https://i.imgur.com/RhDooWc.jpg

So, a licensed casino with KYC requirement is better than a new, unlicensed and ‘no KYC' casino. If LTC Casino had the gambling license then there would have been an option to force them through the license provider to resolve the issue quickly.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Pmalek on April 11, 2022, 04:01:33 PM
A 15-17 years old is mature enough to manage their funds. They also knows how to take the risk with their funds. So, there won't be any difference between a 18 or above years old and 15 to 17 years old people betting pattern.
Exactly my point. You can't come to such conclusions based on the way someone wagers there money. Some gamblers have good risk management, others have poor. Some play with 5-10% of their total bag per hand, others wager all at once. The point is, the casino can't suspect that the gamblers who take greater risks are underaged.

Quoting this to give an example here. User ‘bambolina’ has created a scam accusation against ‘LTC Casino’ one month ago (See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.0)).
I am familiar with the case. I came across it while browsing the Scam Accusation board. The casino believes the player in question has used some automated or illegal software. According to them, the player has played 16 hours straight with no pauses between the spins. They are saying that there wasn't even 1 second difference between two rounds. The player played the same slot all the time and managed to win 3 jackpots. Or was it 2? I forgot. All that triggered their alarms.

I communicated with both the player and LTC Casino trying to get them to release the data and evidence they have against the player. No luck so far. They have promised to release the data once the investigation has been concluded. According to their TOS, they have the right to take up to 3 months for that.

I am not sure what to think. I don't like the casino's silence, but I also find it very difficult to talk with the player and OP of that thread. He keeps stating that the evidence shows he did nothing wrong. But there is no evidence. LTC Casino has not released any data and we don't know what Wazdan (the game provider has sent them). Wazdan's team claims they sent everything they needed. LTC Casino says that's not true. Neither party is releasing information about what was sent or received. Obviously, the player believes Wazdan, because that suits him. I can't side with the player not having seen the data that was never released. But the user bambolina doesn't understand that and believes I have sided with the casino. We also don't know what the Casino Guru rep has received from both parties and what records they have looked at.   

LTC Casino claims to have asked Wazdan for additional information that they haven't provided. I PMed the casino's forum rep and asked them to post proof of this request. So far they haven't done that. LTC Casino is doing this wrongly if you ask me. But, is that enough to prove they are lying? I don't think it is. If the player played and won the money fairly, I understand his anger. But I have a feeling this will take a long time to settle.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on April 11, 2022, 06:54:22 PM
According to them, the player has played 16 hours straight with no pauses between the spins. They are saying that there wasn't even 1 second difference between two rounds. The player played the same slot all the time and managed to win 3 jackpots. Or was it 2? I forgot. All that triggered their alarms.
The casino team has claimed that, but they haven't provided any single proof of it. The player has won 3 jackpots. One of those was small amount and he lost it later. But he won two big jackpot after that.

I am not sure what to think. I don't like the casino's silence, but I also find it very difficult to talk with the player and OP of that thread. He keeps stating that the evidence shows he did nothing wrong. But there is no evidence.
The player won't have any evidence to show that he played the game without using the illegal method. Everything depends on the casino team and game provider. The game provider wouldn't make much delay to provide the evidence if the user really used some illegal method.

But the user bambolina doesn't understand that and believes I have sided with the casino. We also don't know what the Casino Guru rep has received from both parties and what records they have looked at.
Yeah, I have read those conversations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59594074#msg59594074). The OP thought you are supporting the casino team. At first I had neutral view (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59555828#msg59555828) in his accusation. But today I have stand against (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59827855#msg59827855) the casino for their negligence and silence. You can find the conversations among bambolina, LTC casino and Casino Guru representative here: LTC Casino - Player’s account has been blocked and audited. (https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited)
There is a 14 hours timer now and they will close the case as unsolved if LTC casino team doesn't give any response.

I PMed the casino's forum rep and asked them to post proof of this request. So far they haven't done that. LTC Casino is doing this wrongly if you ask me. But, is that enough to prove they are lying? I don't think it is. If the player played and won the money fairly, I understand his anger. But I have a feeling this will take a long time to settle.
The accusation was created in the forum one month ago. LTC casino representative has made only 4 response in the accusation thread until now. He hasn't answered to a lot of question which was asked by some forum members. They haven't given any real update of this investigation. LTC casino can take 3 months to give the final answer, but they should have cooperate (making response) with the gambling community on regular basis to maintain their reputation. They are doing the opposite.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Pmalek on April 12, 2022, 09:01:59 AM
The game provider wouldn't make much delay to provide the evidence if the user really used some illegal method.
It depends if they know what they are looking for or if they want to fix it at all. The other provider that was mentioned in that thread was Felix Gaming. A vulnerability was found in their games. Initially, the game provider claimed there were no problems, but eventually admitted that things went wrong. It cannot be ruled out that something similar isn't happening here and that Wazdan knows about a serious flaw but can't or doesn't want to fix it.   

The accusation was created in the forum one month ago. LTC casino representative has made only 4 response in the accusation thread until now. He hasn't answered to a lot of question which was asked by some forum members. They haven't given any real update of this investigation. LTC casino can take 3 months to give the final answer, but they should have cooperate (making response) with the gambling community on regular basis to maintain their reputation. They are doing the opposite.
I totally agree, and there is a better way to handle this situation. Unfortunately, LTC casino isn't going down that road.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: ultraBTC on April 12, 2022, 11:03:12 AM

So, a licensed casino with KYC requirement is better than a new, unlicensed and ‘no KYC' casino. If LTC Casino had the gambling license then there would have been an option to force them through the license provider to resolve the issue quickly.

Agree on that one.
Additionally, it also depends on the Master license (if we talk about Curacao licenses). For example, Curaçao Master License 8048/JAZ (Antillephone N.V) or Curaçao Master License 365/JAZ actually responds to player complaints. On the other hand, that can't be said for Master License 1668/JAZ.

There is a difference between licenses, and some of them wouldn't be much of a help for player complaints.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 13, 2022, 06:32:55 AM

So, a licensed casino with KYC requirement is better than a new, unlicensed and ‘no KYC' casino. If LTC Casino had the gambling license then there would have been an option to force them through the license provider to resolve the issue quickly.

Agree on that one.
Additionally, it also depends on the Master license (if we talk about Curacao licenses). For example, Curaçao Master License 8048/JAZ (Antillephone N.V) or Curaçao Master License 365/JAZ actually responds to player complaints. On the other hand, that can't be said for Master License 1668/JAZ.

There is a difference between licenses, and some of them wouldn't be much of a help for player complaints.
Curacao is a fairly well-known and widespread license, and it makes no sense to doubt its ability to regulate and somewhat control the gambling market. 

However, I think that any kind of licensing is an insufficient guarantee for specific players.  There are many nuances in these licenses that may not protect the player in a controversial situation.  And it will be useless to argue.  And even KYC won't help.  It would only hurt if the player chose to remain anonymous. 

So don't over-believe everything in our world full of lies. :(


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Peanutswar on April 13, 2022, 06:38:28 AM
This list is a good introduction to the player who would like to seek some information what is the ideal gambling platform for them and I already used some of them because they are already created a good reputation to our forum, ill try to explore more if there suitable for my needs as a gambler I do mostly with the sports and e-sports betting and it's easier to make a background check now because of the list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: zidanw on April 13, 2022, 08:35:50 AM
That was a great list, and putting (if needed) is really important since players would know if it is mandatory that they ask KYC. Is this list updated monthly I've seen new gambling site opening the last I remember is the SandboxCasino.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 13, 2022, 09:57:09 AM
As for KYC, it is worth noting that after the introduction of this procedure in 2016 by these filthy regulatory authorities in the USA, this procedure is now more and more required everywhere.  So don't be surprised that when you suddenly go to your favorite gambling site, where there was no KYC requirement when you registered, they suddenly require it.  Otherwise, neither the deposit nor the winnings will be returned.  That's the kind of "care" about customers.  Thanks to filthy regulators (the authors of KYC for cryptocurrency would go to hell)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: joeperry on April 13, 2022, 10:04:53 AM
This is a great list of gambling sites and KYC requirements, it is very detailed including the list of the required identification or valid identification that can be accepted in the gambling site. As we can see most of the licensed gambling site do require users at some point to do KYC since it is a requirements of their license but I wasn't yet asked to verify my account and is still optional.

I am playing at Bitsler and Stake.com and sometimes at Gamdom when I receive my payment from them through the site.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 14, 2022, 08:25:37 AM
This is a great list of gambling sites and KYC requirements, it is very detailed including the list of the required identification or valid identification that can be accepted in the gambling site. As we can see most of the licensed gambling site do require users at some point to do KYC since it is a requirements of their license but I wasn't yet asked to verify my account and is still optional.

I am playing at Bitsler and Stake.com and sometimes at Gamdom when I receive my payment from them through the site.
But you must be ready for the KYC procedure at any time.  I have already come across such an unexpected "gift" several times from both crypto exchanges and gambling sites.  By the way, this can be quite unpleasant, especially if you are asked to confirm your identity, present not only a photo of your face with a document that you must hold in your hands, but also a utility bill to confirm your address.
 All this is very annoying and takes up your time.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: mrongoz_imut on April 14, 2022, 09:03:12 AM
Most helpful with OP listed all gambling platform required or not with KYC, actually if any several gambling platform listed by OP need KYC not any way for children under 18 years old for betting and active on gambling platform. Appreciated what did by OP because he was clearly explain and give guide on several gambling platform which one have to pass KYC or not. I think with beginner on several gambling platform will know when trying several gambling site which one have to pass KYC or not.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: xSkylarx on April 14, 2022, 09:38:55 AM
This is exactly what I've been looking for since yesterday because I intend to register with another gambling website. I'm tired of checking each site's requirements one by one, and I can't seem to find a comprehensive list of requirements in a Google search. This list is also up to date and makes it simple to choose which websites to register with. However, I will try the website that does not require KYC just to get a feel for it. I am looking for new experiences in gambling websites because I am getting bored with my current gambling site because there is no new innovation I think because this website is running for a long time since 2016 I think.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 14, 2022, 03:12:21 PM
If someone knows how to make it so that when searching for reviews and tables with crypto-casinos using a search engine like Google or yandex, at least in the first ten links there would be a link to BTT and to the first post of OP.  It is really very useful and informative for those newcomers who are interested in the terms of the crypto-casino services.  And in particular, the presence of the KYC requirement. 
If anyone knows how to do this, please help.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on April 14, 2022, 11:14:06 PM
I think we will eventually move to sites that are all required to perform a KYC. This is not yet the case at the moment, but you can see that licensing committees and licensing authorities are becoming stricter and more demanding. It is a pity that bitcoin is no longer so anonymous, banks are losing their power and supervision, and want more control and exert a lot of influence over governments, which in turn puts pressure on the licensing commissions. Fortunately, there are still a number of sites where you can gamble completely anonymously.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Poker Player on April 15, 2022, 09:00:29 AM
If someone knows how to make it so that when searching for reviews and tables with crypto-casinos using a search engine like Google or yandex, at least in the first ten links there would be a link to BTT and to the first post of OP.  It is really very useful and informative for those newcomers who are interested in the terms of the crypto-casino services.  And in particular, the presence of the KYC requirement. 
If anyone knows how to do this, please help.

I just googled "crypto casinos KYC" and this thread comes up in result 9 on google, but I understand that this may be influenced by several factors, such as past searches, my geographical location and such.

On the other hand, for this post to appear even higher in google, someone would have to spend money, and I don't think anyone is going to do it.

The forum usually appears high in searches about Bitcoin and crypto, so I don't see the need you are talking about.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: aysg76 on April 15, 2022, 09:34:35 AM

I just googled "crypto casinos KYC" and this thread comes up in result 9 on google, but I understand that this may be influenced by several factors, such as past searches, my geographical location and such.

On the other hand, for this post to appear even higher in google, someone would have to spend money, and I don't think anyone is going to do it.

The forum usually appears high in searches about Bitcoin and crypto, so I don't see the need you are talking about.
After this post i also checked it and this thread was on first page but at number 10th so you can see only a little variation is there.You can see that there is lot of discussion about this KYC topic and members of the forum search for it so it's in there.The other high rank search were of reddit post and Bitcasino as they are popular option to search for it.

Yes as forum already deals in various topics and if you search for it the results will usually be in top.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: wildan88 on April 15, 2022, 10:47:59 AM
Why most of the people in crypto doesn't like KYC but also doesn't like if the gambling site has no gambling license. If you see Curacao gambling license which is too common in online crypto gambling site assume it already that you will do KYC at some point since most gambling license requires it.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Hamphser on April 15, 2022, 10:31:47 PM
Why most of the people in crypto doesn't like KYC but also doesn't like if the gambling site has no gambling license. If you see Curacao gambling license which is too common in online crypto gambling site assume it already that you will do KYC at some point since most gambling license requires it.
Try to check this link out.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0

Most of them are licensed but most of them doesnt really require KYC but excluding into some circumstances which is mostly that common and been put up on their
terms and conditions which means that being licensed doesnt mean that KYC is mandatory.We could actually experience it now.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: safari88 on April 15, 2022, 10:49:44 PM
It's good that people have made a list. Many players still prefer to gamble anonymously. It is true that you are often allowed to gamble anonymously in the beginning, but if you are winning a lot of money, the problems could start and a KYC is still requested. But that is not the same with every player, with some players and not with others. Depends on how successful a player is. If a player loses a lot, a casino is not likely to ask for a KYC. Sooner or later, every casino will have to bear the obligation.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 20, 2022, 06:37:47 AM
Why most of the people in crypto doesn't like KYC but also doesn't like if the gambling site has no gambling license. If you see Curacao gambling license which is too common in online crypto gambling site assume it already that you will do KYC at some point since most gambling license requires it.
I think that this is due to the fact that since the very beginning of cryptocurrencies, anonymity has been that unique property that allowed the owners of cryptocurrencies not to publicly advertise their financial condition and their income.  In many cases, this helps people avoid unnecessary trouble and even danger from criminals.  In many countries, the owners of cryptocurrencies may well be robbed by bandits who act on a tip.  Anonymity protects against such crimes. 
And it is known that "money loves silence." 
Why do extra people need to know how much money you have?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 01, 2022, 04:51:26 PM
Update: Removed OneHash from the list as they have closed their business on the 30th of June.
Added the information of 5 new casino in the table. Those are BCH.games, Bets.io, Crashino, FoggyStar and Riobet. Among those 5 casinos, two casinos are advertising in the forum by adding “No KYC” in their ANN thread title. But their terms says that they reserves the right to ask for KYC documents of the users. Which is a bit confusional. I have added red star mark (*) at the KYC Requirements part in the table for those casinos. They are Bets.io and Crashino. I have added this information in the note section.

The * mark casino advertising in the forum with “No KYC” in the ANN thread title, while their terms says that they reserves the right to ask for KYC documents of the users.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: fiulpro on July 01, 2022, 05:09:56 PM
As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made nice job, thx.

Hey !
I beg to differ there are certain casinos that do not require KYC and at the same time are very safe and secure as well, take for example, the casino that am working with : Blackjack.fun they do not have any requirements regarding KYC personally I have withdrawn the amount for ages and never had the problems and the customer support team is very apt and amazing as well other than that their license is :
Quote
Blackjack.fun is fully licensed, owned and operated by Satya Code SRL, registration number: 3102813297, registered address: San Jose, Montes De Oca, San Pedro, 400N 25E Los Yoses, CR. License nr: GLH-OCCHKTW0701162022

Taken from the official website: do go on my signature for further information as well!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 02, 2022, 06:35:22 PM
~snip~
Have you ever read the terms of Blackjack.fun? They reserves the right to request for KYC verification

9.3. We reserve the right to request photo ID, address confirmation or perform additional verification procedures (request your selfie, arrange a verification call etc.) for the purpose of identity verification prior to granting any withdrawals from your Account. We also reserve our rights to perform identity verification at any time during the lifetime of your relationship with us.

Blackjack.fun hasn't applied this rules on you as you haven't done anything wrong there. But they may ask you to do that if they find anything suspicious. They may request to get all kind of personal documents from you. I have mentioned about those in the table. They have dedicated page with the information of KYC verification system: https://blackjack.fun/kyc-policy


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 18, 2022, 03:50:15 PM
Update: Added 5 more website details in the list. They are LuckyDiamond, MaverickGames, Mbet, NanoGames and StarBets. None of these casinos have the gambling license, but all of them can request the user to go through the KYC verification process.
I have removed BetJa from the list as the website isn't operating properly. I will add them in the list again if BetJa team give some updates about the issues.

Edit: MaverickGames has gambling license.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: notblox1 on July 19, 2022, 09:22:02 PM
I have removed BetJa from the list as the website isn't operating properly. I will add them in the list again if BetJa team give some updates about the issues.
Betja is not coming back, and everything related with Betja is now deleted, so it was good move removing them from the list.
One more casino I saw recently in forum is Olimp.com that claim to have Curacao gambling license, but I would not list them here because you can't register without sending them phone number.
Great work on keeping this list updated! ;)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Dewi Aries on July 24, 2022, 04:31:32 AM
Update: Added 5 more website details in the list. They are LuckyDiamond, MaverickGames, Mbet, NanoGames and StarBets. None of these casinos have the gambling license, but all of them can request the user to go through the KYC verification process.
I have removed BetJa from the list as the website isn't operating properly. I will add them in the list again if BetJa team give some updates about the issues.

If you check the bottom of the MaverickGames website explained they are licensed and regulated by 'Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission'
but somehow verify if the license is valid, based on registration data (2018) it seems they are still using the old license used by the previous website (btb88) there is currently no active support to confirm, they should be back online in the next 2-3 hours based on operating hours.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 24, 2022, 03:51:45 PM
One more casino I saw recently in forum is Olimp.com that claim to have Curacao gambling license, but I would not list them here because you can't register without sending them phone number.
Olimp.com has Curacao gambling license and we can verify that. I just checked the website. They are asking for phone number in the quick registration process, I'm not surprised with that part as some other casino has similar requirement. But the full registration page is asking for passport or ID number. I'm not interested to add them in the list as they are new here and their registration process is unusual.


If you check the bottom of the MaverickGames website explained they are licensed and regulated by 'Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission'
Somehow I have missed that part. “Isle of Man Gambling Supervision Commission” is a gambling license provider. Lot's of casino is running under them by creating their own company, and those companies are holding the license from ‘Isle of Man’ provider. “Shelgeyr Limited” is the license operator/holders of MaverickGames. You can check the availability of their license from Isle of Man government website (Check here (https://www.gov.im/categories/business-and-industries/gambling-and-e-gaming/licence-holders/)). Thank you for noticing the mistake. I have updated the details in the list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Saint-loup on July 26, 2022, 03:45:29 PM
Olimp.com has Curacao gambling license and we can verify that. I just checked the website. They are asking for phone number in the quick registration process, I'm not surprised with that part as some other casino has similar requirement. But the full registration page is asking for passport or ID number. I'm not interested to add them in the list as they are new here and their registration process is unusual.
And why didn't you mention Bitvest and 777coin anywhere? They are rather old and famous among the forum, and they have the good taste to belong to the very small category of casinos that don't require KYC. Bitvest even belongs to the Crypto Gambling Foundation (https://cryptogambling.org). It's an oversight on your part or it's intentional?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 26, 2022, 06:17:22 PM
~snip~
Firstly, I was concerned about the reputation of Bitvest and 777Coin as there was delays to process the withdrawals and some issues regarding their signature campaign payments. Later, I have forgotten about them. However, I will add them in the list soon as I haven't seen any new complaints against them in the last few months. No one has mentioned about them here in this thread except you. Thanks!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on August 02, 2022, 04:29:45 PM
Update: Added the details of 4 more casinos. They are Bitvest, DuckDice, Sportbet.one and 777Coin.
Used the TLD name for Sportsbet.io and Sportbet.one so that people don't get confused. Added DuckDice by ignoring their negative feedback which they had received long time ago. I have followed this thread “Duckdice Reputation Thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384155.0)” before adding them to the list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Adbitco on August 02, 2022, 04:47:21 PM
Thank you for the update i have seen most of the questions i would have wanted to ask gambling site in their ann thread. There is some important things i have seen here that make me happy especially this

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)

I never understand this before.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 26, 2022, 02:32:04 PM
Thank you for the update i have seen most of the questions i would have wanted to ask gambling site in their ann thread. There is some important things i have seen here that make me happy especially this

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)

I never understand this before.
Well, the truth is, I don't know how many Curacao licenses there are, but it's a matter of reading each one according to its numbers, but this came about thanks to a discussion thread in reputation? The truth is that I never go there, but if it is something that is beneficial for both the casino and the players, it is something that I applaud, and if it is to seek continuous improvement of the site, then I totally like it, I think this is what matters And it is necessary to take into account, all these licenses allow the use in countries that are already prohibited in nature? Or do they have some kind of special treatment? I have a friend in the USA who cannot enter several casinos, and I think it is because of the licenses.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on August 29, 2022, 06:16:18 AM
- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

This is actually a comprehensive informative list you have here, because in as much as many persons would have love to gamble anonymously, it has always been difficult choosing the right No KYC casinos that is trusted and has reputation, because reading the whole ''Terms & Conditions'' is not always that easy, but with this thread of yours now, it gives us an insight and save us the stress of searching for a No KYC casinos.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Viscore on August 29, 2022, 07:42:06 PM
- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

This is actually a comprehensive informative list you have here, because in as much as many persons would have love to gamble anonymously, it has always been difficult choosing the right No KYC casinos that is trusted and has reputation, because reading the whole ''Terms & Conditions'' is not always that easy, but with this thread of yours now, it gives us an insight and save us the stress of searching for a No KYC casinos.
True. Thanks for the valuable information OP as these can be very helpful particularly for newbies as they have no much experience yet in different casinos and still may likely to fall into scams if they are not knowledgeable enough. As most of the casinos have required already KYC, but it’s still more preferable to play in casinos where you can play anonymously.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Finestream on September 02, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

This is actually a comprehensive informative list you have here, because in as much as many persons would have love to gamble anonymously, it has always been difficult choosing the right No KYC casinos that is trusted and has reputation, because reading the whole ''Terms & Conditions'' is not always that easy, but with this thread of yours now, it gives us an insight and save us the stress of searching for a No KYC casinos.
True. It’s hard to trust a No KYC casinos these days as they fall into scams in the end and lost our money. But with this thread, OP enlighten us and give us ideas on what reputable casinos that are not yet requiring KYC submission. Thanks OP for the great information as this can be very helpful especially for newbies out there who loves to gamble.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Lanatsa on September 02, 2022, 09:50:00 PM
- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

This is actually a comprehensive informative list you have here, because in as much as many persons would have love to gamble anonymously, it has always been difficult choosing the right No KYC casinos that is trusted and has reputation, because reading the whole ''Terms & Conditions'' is not always that easy, but with this thread of yours now, it gives us an insight and save us the stress of searching for a No KYC casinos.
True. It’s hard to trust a No KYC casinos these days as they fall into scams in the end and lost our money. But with this thread, OP enlighten us and give us ideas on what reputable casinos that are not yet requiring KYC submission. Thanks OP for the great information as this can be very helpful especially for newbies out there who loves to gamble.
Yes, there are casinos which is already old and reputable/known already on this forum but surprisingly they arent having those license
Ex. Bustabit/Bustadice

Its been a long time running crash site but surprisingly they dont really have that license but still able to get huge support and commonly been hanging out by gamblers around.
These information is indeed helpful if there's someone who had in doubt about a site whether it does have license or does ask out some kyc or not.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: johhnyUA on September 02, 2022, 09:59:06 PM
- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

This is actually a comprehensive informative list you have here, because in as much as many persons would have love to gamble anonymously, it has always been difficult choosing the right No KYC casinos that is trusted and has reputation, because reading the whole ''Terms & Conditions'' is not always that easy, but with this thread of yours now, it gives us an insight and save us the stress of searching for a No KYC casinos.
True. It’s hard to trust a No KYC casinos these days as they fall into scams in the end and lost our money. But with this thread, OP enlighten us and give us ideas on what reputable casinos that are not yet requiring KYC submission. Thanks OP for the great information as this can be very helpful especially for newbies out there who loves to gamble.

KYC casinos doing the same: fall into scams, get "hacked" and lost user's money. KYC doesn't affect this moments. The only things which matters here is laws of the place where this casino works. If casino is in EU or UK everything will be good, you can do KYC.

Otherwise it's very bad idea to provide a lot of personal information to some offshore site.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 23, 2022, 03:25:51 AM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?

I ask this because of what was said in another thread:

I don't see that you have any gambling license and I think there is high risk of using any new gambling website like this.

For me, that a site does not have a license does not mean that it is going to be a scam, because in this thread we can see a few unlicensed sites that have been operating for years and do not scam anyone.

But if the scam sites do not have licenses, we could have a probability criterion to identify them.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on September 26, 2022, 02:18:00 AM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?

It shouldn't, if it is proven to run fraudulent practices then no license will dare to support it, in addition the Licensor is threatened with being sued
If you talk about 1xBit then you should read the case of 1xBet wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet) similar name and similar case but I don't want to assume. I will avoid sites like this and also alert my community to avoid it.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Botnake on September 26, 2022, 12:22:05 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?

It shouldn't, if it is proven to run fraudulent practices then no license will dare to support it, in addition the Licensor is threatened with being sued
If you talk about 1xBit then you should read the case of 1xBet wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet) similar name and similar case but I don't want to assume. I will avoid sites like this and also alert my community to avoid it.


They claimed to have a license, but with their reputation, the license is just useless if I would choose to gamble. There are plenty of sites I believe that have a license but with a bad reputation, maybe gamblers do not sue them but due to the evidence from the accusers, the community tagged them as a bad gambling sites.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: dezoel on September 29, 2022, 01:18:32 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?
It shouldn't, if it is proven to run fraudulent practices then no license will dare to support it, in addition the Licensor is threatened with being sued
If you talk about 1xBit then you should read the case of 1xBet wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet) similar name and similar case but I don't want to assume. I will avoid sites like this and also alert my community to avoid it.
I did an internet search about it and some gambling review sites claim that they have a license under curacao but when I check the 1xbit site and scroll at the very bottom, I didn't see a word license or curacao there. We know that some gambling sites are lying and put a good rating about 1xbit so maybe they are also lying when they say that 1xbit has a license.

Scam sites intend to not get a license because number 1 is (like you said) no license company are going to allow them. Number 2 is their license will still be removed if found out that they turned into a scam (if ever they started as a legit one) and not only that but they can also be arrested. Number 3 is they can attract players to play on them because many players likes a casino without a KYC.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: mindrust on September 29, 2022, 01:23:38 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?

It shouldn't, if it is proven to run fraudulent practices then no license will dare to support it, in addition the Licensor is threatened with being sued
If you talk about 1xBit then you should read the case of 1xBet wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet) similar name and similar case but I don't want to assume. I will avoid sites like this and also alert my community to avoid it.


They claimed to have a license, but with their reputation, the license is just useless if I would choose to gamble. There are plenty of sites I believe that have a license but with a bad reputation, maybe gamblers do not sue them but due to the evidence from the accusers, the community tagged them as a bad gambling sites.

Exactly. Having a license don't make a casino a honest one. In fact most scammy casinos have licenses from those Caribbean countries. (One of them was Curaçao?) The casino needs a gambling license only if they are accepting FIAT money from their customers. If they don't deal with FIAT, a casino license is completely worthless. Having a good reputation beats a gambling license by a lot and you can gain good reputation only by treating your customers fairly which 1xbit fails at doing.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Dunamisx on September 29, 2022, 01:47:33 PM
Scam sites intend to not get a license because number 1 is (like you said) no license company are going to allow them. Number 2 is their license will still be removed if found out that they turned into a scam (if ever they started as a legit one) and not only that but they can also be arrested. Number 3 is they can attract players to play on them because many players likes a casino without a KYC.

Things are actually not balanced if we take a look into the whole case, from the casinos side you will discover that truly we have some scam gambling site that could not be allowed to participate in any legal form of endorsement, also from the gambler's end you discover many ways they have been trying to attack the gambling sites by all means, so therefore scam exist both from the casino and the gamblers, same applies if you're in search for a reputed one whereby with time you will discover one that best suit your taste, that's why scammers are much attracted to the scamming casinos and if you're not a scammer then you will definitely be far away from any even though they are drawing close to you, you will discern well.

 
They claimed to have a license, but with their reputation, the license is just useless if I would choose to gamble. There are plenty of sites I believe that have a license but with a bad reputation, maybe gamblers do not sue them but due to the evidence from the accusers, the community tagged them as a bad gambling sites.

An average gambler should atleast go for both reputation and functionality of a gambling site, one interesting idea about searching is that it may only take you some time but you will actually got attracted to the type which you're on a look for, if a gambling site is found operating under misconduct, all you need is to avoid such, you may not have the time, money and resources needed to sue such.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on September 29, 2022, 02:43:10 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.
I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?
I couldn't find out the license information of 1Xbit on their website. But the casino review making site says that 1xbet and 1xbit casinos are operated by the same company. 1xbet claims that they are operated by 1XCorp N.V. company, but it isn't valid anymore. Because, 1XCorp N.V. was declared bankruptcy by Curacao operator on May 2022. You will see this information on Curaçao Commercial Register page of 1XCorp N.V. company (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=130189). Currently 1xbet is operated under ACOM Latin America N.V. (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=85117) This company is registered under Curaçao eGaming.

Therefore, a scam casino may have gambling license. A license can't stop them to scam people. Only the awareness can save gamblers from the trap of these scam casinos.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Hamphser on September 29, 2022, 03:38:08 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.

I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?

It shouldn't, if it is proven to run fraudulent practices then no license will dare to support it, in addition the Licensor is threatened with being sued
If you talk about 1xBit then you should read the case of 1xBet wikipedia  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet) similar name and similar case but I don't want to assume. I will avoid sites like this and also alert my community to avoid it.


They claimed to have a license, but with their reputation, the license is just useless if I would choose to gamble. There are plenty of sites I believe that have a license but with a bad reputation, maybe gamblers do not sue them but due to the evidence from the accusers, the community tagged them as a bad gambling sites.

Exactly. Having a license don't make a casino a honest one. In fact most scammy casinos have licenses from those Caribbean countries. (One of them was Curaçao?) The casino needs a gambling license only if they are accepting FIAT money from their customers. If they don't deal with FIAT, a casino license is completely worthless. Having a good reputation beats a gambling license by a lot and you can gain good reputation only by treating your customers fairly which 1xbit fails at doing.
Having a license wont really be an assurance for us to say that a site or platform to be legit yet we know that there are even licensed one turns out to be scammy which we had encountered already
into this market or forum itself.
Yes, we do even have casinos nowadays which doesnt have license but still able to make themselves sitting on the top of popular platforms
on which we could play comfortably and able to trust it up.
This do proves out that license isnt everything.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Saint-loup on October 14, 2022, 11:23:27 PM
I didn't find Nitrobetting, the child of Nitrogensports, it's sad because it's one of the few reputable casinos not asking any KYC and personal information, and freely accepting users from all states of USA on top of that. They provide a sportsbook, casino games and multi-players poker tables. Besides that they are offering contests and tournaments on a regular basis. They deserve to be listed here IMO.

https://i.ibb.co/HPjGMm3/image.png
https://nitrobetting.eu/privacy-policy/


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on October 15, 2022, 01:03:28 AM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.
I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?
I couldn't find out the license information of 1Xbit on their website. But the casino review making site says that 1xbet and 1xbit casinos are operated by the same company. 1xbet claims that they are operated by 1XCorp N.V. company, but it isn't valid anymore. Because, 1XCorp N.V. was declared bankruptcy by Curacao operator on May 2022. You will see this information on Curaçao Commercial Register page of 1XCorp N.V. company (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=130189). Currently 1xbet is operated under ACOM Latin America N.V. (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=85117) This company is registered under Curaçao eGaming.

Therefore, a scam casino may have gambling license. A license can't stop them to scam people. Only the awareness can save gamblers from the trap of these scam casinos.

Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying. In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Saint-loup on October 15, 2022, 07:06:10 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying. In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
I was about to ask if someone could share the terms of the Curacao licenses regarding the KYC policies because I don't understand why some large casinos like Sportsbet and Bitcasino don't require "proofs of funds" according to the table in the OP while other casinos are asking it despite having a Curacao license too.
But your reply is certainly the right answer actually, KYC requirements have nothing to do with licenses in reality, it's just an easy way for casinos to avoid paying winnings to their customers. I don't know what are the real statistics but I assume that more than a third of customers refuse to do it or are unable to comply with it. Another part takes certainly months to send the required documents and to get validated, so for casinos it's a pretty good deal in the short run.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 15, 2022, 10:47:30 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.
I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?
I couldn't find out the license information of 1Xbit on their website. But the casino review making site says that 1xbet and 1xbit casinos are operated by the same company. 1xbet claims that they are operated by 1XCorp N.V. company, but it isn't valid anymore. Because, 1XCorp N.V. was declared bankruptcy by Curacao operator on May 2022. You will see this information on Curaçao Commercial Register page of 1XCorp N.V. company (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=130189). Currently 1xbet is operated under ACOM Latin America N.V. (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=85117) This company is registered under Curaçao eGaming.

Therefore, a scam casino may have gambling license. A license can't stop them to scam people. Only the awareness can save gamblers from the trap of these scam casinos.

Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying. In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.

Wow, I would have liked to know much more about international laws, because I have many doubts about licenses, I thought that a casino with licenses, apart from making it more authentic, presented more security to customers, so wherever the licenses are from, they should allow protection to users, it makes no sense then about licenses if there is no protection, really these things are very different, I know that international law has a lot to do with these issues, but I want to determine if at some point they can decide To give some advantages that are for customers, there should be at least one protection clause.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on October 15, 2022, 11:09:40 PM
I'm curious if 1Xbit or similar scam sites have a license from somewhere.
I don't see 1xBit on the list and I guess it's because it's a known scam site, but I wouldn't rule out that certain scam sites are able to get a license from somewhere to keep up appearances. Or it is common to scam sites not to have a licence?
I couldn't find out the license information of 1Xbit on their website. But the casino review making site says that 1xbet and 1xbit casinos are operated by the same company. 1xbet claims that they are operated by 1XCorp N.V. company, but it isn't valid anymore. Because, 1XCorp N.V. was declared bankruptcy by Curacao operator on May 2022. You will see this information on Curaçao Commercial Register page of 1XCorp N.V. company (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=130189). Currently 1xbet is operated under ACOM Latin America N.V. (http://www2.curacao-chamber.cw/excerpt.asp?establishmentnr=0&legalformid=51&companyid=85117) This company is registered under Curaçao eGaming.

Therefore, a scam casino may have gambling license. A license can't stop them to scam people. Only the awareness can save gamblers from the trap of these scam casinos.

Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying. In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos. There are also tax advantages. Once again it depends on the country but in some the corp. pays zero taxes for money generated outside of the country but the can't accept wagers within the country.

Wow, I would have liked to know much more about international laws, because I have many doubts about licenses, I thought that a casino with licenses, apart from making it more authentic, presented more security to customers, so wherever the licenses are from, they should allow protection to users, it makes no sense then about licenses if there is no protection, really these things are very different, I know that international law has a lot to do with these issues, but I want to determine if at some point they can decide To give some advantages that are for customers, there should be at least one protection clause.



It's the same as setting up any offshore company. You need a nominee, business incorporated, bank account, a resident in the country or expat and some need a virtual office. The laws are different in each country but similar. Once again it depends on the country but some are tax havens. Money generated outside of the country isn't taxed. Wagering is banned for residents in the country. The only good thing about a license is to ensure a fair game. Otherwise, it's a money grab.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: worldofcoins on October 23, 2022, 08:23:29 AM
Well, in my opinion, KYC should be mandatory for all casinos due to the reasons shared in your post and other reasons.
However, it increases the chances of credible players and helps prevent abuse, such as hacking or any unauthorized bluff playing and cheating.
Therefore, all casinos must implement KYC for the sake of the presentation of the casino's reputation and players.



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on November 09, 2022, 06:00:28 PM
Update: I just added 3 more casinos details in the list. They are Betplay, Metaspins and Punt.
Neodice and BitKong is on my to-do list. I have some confusions about Neodice license, I will add them to the list when it will be fixed. And I'm waiting for the BitKong email support response. Although it looks like BitKong doesn't request for KYC verification, but I want to confirm it from their response.

Edit: The details of Neodice and BitKong have been added in the list.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on March 24, 2023, 01:21:31 PM
Update: No new casino has been added in the list. I just rechecked the license details at each casino and made some corrections in the main post.
• The license validator link isn't available on Betcoin.ag now.
• Flush.com has changed their gambling license. The information has been updated in the main post.
• I have removed TwiceDice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353122.0) from the list as the website is password protected. I'm unable to access the casino.
• WinDice has a gambling license now, I have updated their license information in the main post.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Get-Paid.com on March 24, 2023, 01:38:53 PM
Edit: The details of Neodice and BitKong has* been added in the list.

*have (plural)
BitKong has been operating for 7+ years, the fact it has no license makes it less trustable?!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on March 24, 2023, 06:22:38 PM
*have (plural)
Although it doesn't matter a lot, but I have fixed it ;)

BitKong has been operating for 7+ years, the fact it has no license makes it less trustable?!
The reputation of a casino is more worthy than the license of the casino. But the gamblers search for the license of a casino now when a new casino arrives in the gambling world. There are few more old casinos running with their reputation without having the gambling license (Bitvest, Bustabit, Bustadice). The license will only cost a few thousand dollars while their reputation is worth than hundred thousand dollars. BitKong is trustable than a new licensed casino which has no reputation.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BVeyron on March 27, 2023, 04:58:28 PM
*have (plural)
Although it doesn't matter a lot, but I have fixed it ;)

BitKong has been operating for 7+ years, the fact it has no license makes it less trustable?!
The reputation of a casino is more worthy than the license of the casino. But the gamblers search for the license of a casino now when a new casino arrives in the gambling world. There are few more old casinos running with their reputation without having the gambling license (Bitvest, Bustabit, Bustadice). The license will only cost a few thousand dollars while their reputation is worth than hundred thousand dollars. BitKong is trustable than a new licensed casino which has no reputation.

There are many validators, and most of them are unable to guarantee trustworthy behavior of every company they give license to. License is more to do with legal status of earnings casino owners get from their business, in most countries all the gambling industry is banned, and its quite hard to stay within law regulations if someone has income from owning a gambling site. That's why license is not a guarantee for users...


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: o48o on March 27, 2023, 07:12:58 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying.
In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory and only applies to scamming casinos. Real reason with legit casinos is that they are complying with AML laws. They are checking every account they are suspecting og faul play and are required by law to freeze their accounts and contact officials.

And if they want to handle fiat money in the future and be operational it would be foolish from them not to complain with AML laws, because why would they risk their existence and wouldn't do that?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BVeyron on March 29, 2023, 01:24:01 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying.
In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory and only applies to scamming casinos. Real reason with legit casinos is that they are complying with AML laws. They are checking every account they are suspecting og faul play and are required by law to freeze their accounts and contact officials.

And if they want to handle fiat money in the future and be operational it would be foolish from them not to complain with AML laws, because why would they risk their existence and wouldn't do that?

License, as I understand, is more to do with law requirements, than with behavior of the licensed casino. Gambling is either banned or toughly restricted in most of the world, so it's really a trouble for such business owners to legalise the income from this, so that the little amount of places whose authorities are allowed to license casinos are in a huge favour of casino owners. So control functions of licensing authorities are a bit limited under such circumstances.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Hirose UK on March 29, 2023, 03:47:29 PM
BitKong has been operating for 7+ years, the fact it has no license makes it less trustable?!
The reputation of a casino is more worthy than the license of the casino. But the gamblers search for the license of a casino now when a new casino arrives in the gambling world. There are few more old casinos running with their reputation without having the gambling license (Bitvest, Bustabit, Bustadice). The license will only cost a few thousand dollars while their reputation is worth than hundred thousand dollars. BitKong is trustable than a new licensed casino which has no reputation.
The license is used by the casino to get permission to operate with certain authorities and keep the casino from having problems with countries that prohibit gambling, but with a casino using a license it will ask KYC for gamblers who register.
In the gambling industry, licenses are now one of the virtues that casinos must have.
Many casinos are new to their license but don't have a good reputation yet, naturally they are still new to the gambling industry so they don't have a good reputation yet.
Regarding the old casino with a good reputation but don't have the license you are talking about, I know it, but for me the license is no less important to prioritize if you want to use the casino.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: danadc on March 29, 2023, 05:16:50 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying.
In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory and only applies to scamming casinos. Real reason with legit casinos is that they are complying with AML laws. They are checking every account they are suspecting og faul play and are required by law to freeze their accounts and contact officials.

And if they want to handle fiat money in the future and be operational it would be foolish from them not to complain with AML laws, because why would they risk their existence and wouldn't do that?

License, as I understand, is more to do with law requirements, than with behavior of the licensed casino. Gambling is either banned or toughly restricted in most of the world, so it's really a trouble for such business owners to legalise the income from this, so that the little amount of places whose authorities are allowed to license casinos are in a huge favour of casino owners. So control functions of licensing authorities are a bit limited under such circumstances.

The authorities and everything that has to do with it will never support the casinos, because they do not receive money, everything is for the house and for the owner, the way they can control and receive some money is by demanding licenses and data to be able to start pressing, I think that things that are games of chance, sports betting are considered bad by many, and not as a Style of entertainment,everyone blames the casinos for addictions, but the culprits are not the casinos, They are the same people who do not control themselves.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 06, 2023, 03:05:21 AM
Well, in my opinion, KYC should be mandatory for all casinos due to the reasons shared in your post and other reasons.
However, it increases the chances of credible players and helps prevent abuse, such as hacking or any unauthorized bluff playing and cheating.
Therefore, all casinos must implement KYC for the sake of the presentation of the casino's reputation and players.



I understand that casinos need the kyc so that they can be well and in accordance with the laws, but of course things can happen in different ways, because we remember that when playing with cryptocurrencies things change, some know that kyc should not be requested, since the crypto were created precisely to escape the oppressed yoke of the traditional system where Identification is needed for everything, then some are bothered by that, of course one as a player makes exceptions with the casinos that are our Favorites and it is done, but not all have the same thought.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Crypt0Gore on April 08, 2023, 03:24:26 PM
As expected, I am just stumbling on this wonderful thread, what well-detailed information, I never knew this is available on this forum, bravo to you OP. This will safe many gamblers from unexpected requirements of KYC verification, many people are complaining about the sudden requirement and so many have misunderstood this and called online casinos a scam for asking for KYC verification after they win some money on the platform. I somehow wished that this thread can be pinned on the very first page of this gambling section. I don't think it will be possible, but if it is, this will safe a lot of time for new gamblers coming on here.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: decodx on April 08, 2023, 03:39:35 PM
As expected, I am just stumbling on this wonderful thread, what well-detailed information, I never knew this is available on this forum, bravo to you OP.
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Totally feel you, Crypt0Gore. Dealing with online casinos asking for KYC verification can be a pain in the butt. But this thread has some seriously helpful info. And it's pretty cool that the OP still updates it regularly even after a whole year! Gotta love forum members who go the extra mile to help others out.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 13, 2023, 02:37:20 AM
BitKong has been operating for 7+ years, the fact it has no license makes it less trustable?!
The reputation of a casino is more worthy than the license of the casino. But the gamblers search for the license of a casino now when a new casino arrives in the gambling world. There are few more old casinos running with their reputation without having the gambling license (Bitvest, Bustabit, Bustadice). The license will only cost a few thousand dollars while their reputation is worth than hundred thousand dollars. BitKong is trustable than a new licensed casino which has no reputation.
The license is used by the casino to get permission to operate with certain authorities and keep the casino from having problems with countries that prohibit gambling, but with a casino using a license it will ask KYC for gamblers who register.
In the gambling industry, licenses are now one of the virtues that casinos must have.
Many casinos are new to their license but don't have a good reputation yet, naturally they are still new to the gambling industry so they don't have a good reputation yet.
Regarding the old casino with a good reputation but don't have the license you are talking about, I know it, but for me the license is no less important to prioritize if you want to use the casino.

I have seen many people who, when a casino does not have licenses, the first thing they do is criticize them until I make them have them, but the licenses also mean that casinos can still turn to the bad side and can create a big scam, I don't know They have realized that the casinos that have all the licenses, that require kyc, then this does not guarantee that it protects the players, I have always said that the casinos that are older and that have a good reputation is another case, they already have a seniority and a trust earned, in my case those are the casinos that I trust the most.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: klidex on April 13, 2023, 09:30:57 AM
As expected, I am just stumbling on this wonderful thread, what well-detailed information, I never knew this is available on this forum, bravo to you OP.
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Totally feel you, Crypt0Gore. Dealing with online casinos asking for KYC verification can be a pain in the butt. But this thread has some seriously helpful info. And it's pretty cool that the OP still updates it regularly even after a whole year! Gotta love forum members who go the extra mile to help others out.

This thread really helps other people and especially new users visiting this forum to find the casino they want and definitely without KYC requirements.
I think Op is a creative person on this forum willing to spend his time helping others make it easier to find casino information and this thread deserves an award.
Good job Op keep updating what should be updated and you are a great person Op.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Yatsan on April 13, 2023, 03:35:42 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying.
In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory and only applies to scamming casinos. Real reason with legit casinos is that they are complying with AML laws. They are checking every account they are suspecting og faul play and are required by law to freeze their accounts and contact officials.

And if they want to handle fiat money in the future and be operational it would be foolish from them not to complain with AML laws, because why would they risk their existence and wouldn't do that?

License, as I understand, is more to do with law requirements, than with behavior of the licensed casino. Gambling is either banned or toughly restricted in most of the world, so it's really a trouble for such business owners to legalise the income from this, so that the little amount of places whose authorities are allowed to license casinos are in a huge favour of casino owners. So control functions of licensing authorities are a bit limited under such circumstances.

The authorities and everything that has to do with it will never support the casinos, because they do not receive money, everything is for the house and for the owner, the way they can control and receive some money is by demanding licenses and data to be able to start pressing, I think that things that are games of chance, sports betting are considered bad by many, and not as a Style of entertainment,everyone blames the casinos for addictions, but the culprits are not the casinos, They are the same people who do not control themselves.

Actually there are instances authorities or state is supporting gambling activities; lotteries and horse racing are to name a few. What makes them legal in countries gambling is prohibited, is simply taxation. In my country, lottery operators are under government by means of registration. In such way, casinos or gambling platforms are being considered. But in this industry wherein transactions occur in chains and with anonymity,  it would be hard to imply such system. It is not the blame which makes the legalization a big deal but the social norm in accordance with the bible and also the manner of taxation given how it contributes to a country's economy. Therefore, there's an excemption in some cases.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: danadc on April 13, 2023, 04:39:19 PM
Almost every casino here has a gaming license in Curacao or data processing license in Costa Rica. These licenses don't mean anything since anyone here without a criminal record can get a license in Curacao for under $20k USD within 6 weeks and less in Costa Rica.

The only reason the casinos ask for KYC is a way of not paying.
In Curacao all the casinos work under a sub-license under one of the four master licenses. In the UK and US, licensing is strict. It's not that way for bitcoin casinos.
That sounds like a conspiracy theory and only applies to scamming casinos. Real reason with legit casinos is that they are complying with AML laws. They are checking every account they are suspecting og faul play and are required by law to freeze their accounts and contact officials.

And if they want to handle fiat money in the future and be operational it would be foolish from them not to complain with AML laws, because why would they risk their existence and wouldn't do that?

License, as I understand, is more to do with law requirements, than with behavior of the licensed casino. Gambling is either banned or toughly restricted in most of the world, so it's really a trouble for such business owners to legalise the income from this, so that the little amount of places whose authorities are allowed to license casinos are in a huge favour of casino owners. So control functions of licensing authorities are a bit limited under such circumstances.

The authorities and everything that has to do with it will never support the casinos, because they do not receive money, everything is for the house and for the owner, the way they can control and receive some money is by demanding licenses and data to be able to start pressing, I think that things that are games of chance, sports betting are considered bad by many, and not as a Style of entertainment,everyone blames the casinos for addictions, but the culprits are not the casinos, They are the same people who do not control themselves.

Actually there are instances authorities or state is supporting gambling activities; lotteries and horse racing are to name a few. What makes them legal in countries gambling is prohibited, is simply taxation. In my country, lottery operators are under government by means of registration. In such way, casinos or gambling platforms are being considered. But in this industry wherein transactions occur in chains and with anonymity,  it would be hard to imply such system. It is not the blame which makes the legalization a big deal but the social norm in accordance with the bible and also the manner of taxation given how it contributes to a country's economy. Therefore, there's an excemption in some cases.



In any casino that is regulated, they must always give answers or give explanations to the governments, because otherwise they would be left without their licenses, they would not be left alone, I lived in a country where casinos and betting games were not legal, for 20 years they were suspended only because the government was dictatorial, the one that exists now is dictatorial but accepts the casinos, but they have to pay them very well, it is the only way they can operate, otherwise it is illegal and they can go to jail, it's hard.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: abel1337 on April 13, 2023, 05:14:07 PM
Actually there are instances authorities or state is supporting gambling activities; lotteries and horse racing are to name a few. What makes them legal in countries gambling is prohibited, is simply taxation. In my country, lottery operators are under government by means of registration. In such way, casinos or gambling platforms are being considered. But in this industry wherein transactions occur in chains and with anonymity,  it would be hard to imply such system. It is not the blame which makes the legalization a big deal but the social norm in accordance with the bible and also the manner of taxation given how it contributes to a country's economy. Therefore, there's an excemption in some cases.
In any casino that is regulated, they must always give answers or give explanations to the governments, because otherwise they would be left without their licenses, they would not be left alone, I lived in a country where casinos and betting games were not legal, for 20 years they were suspended only because the government was dictatorial, the one that exists now is dictatorial but accepts the casinos, but they have to pay them very well, it is the only way they can operate, otherwise it is illegal and they can go to jail, it's hard.
It's understandable that the government should tax those casinos but I believe a government that is dictatorial that change it's mind to legalized gambling again will ask for a hefty tax to them. These will leave smaller casino not to operate in that country given that most of their profit will only go to the government which big casino can prosper given that they don't have much competition in that market in that country. Casinos will just comply to that certain country requirements just to operate, if not I'm sure the operators will surely be put in jail especially that your country is dictatorial.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: death69 on April 13, 2023, 06:22:54 PM
~snip~
Actually there are instances authorities or state is supporting gambling activities; lotteries and horse racing are to name a few. What makes them legal in countries gambling is prohibited, is simply taxation. In my country, lottery operators are under government by means of registration. In such way, casinos or gambling platforms are being considered. But in this industry wherein transactions occur in chains and with anonymity,  it would be hard to imply such system. It is not the blame which makes the legalization a big deal but the social norm in accordance with the bible and also the manner of taxation given how it contributes to a country's economy. Therefore, there's an excemption in some cases.

They say the house never loses. In a few countries, that house happens to be the government. Bingo - when it's lotteries and horse racing, the authorities are often the top gamblers. But don't let that dissuade you. If the government can profit from betting, why not you?

Of course, cryptocurrencies add complexity. Monitoring winners and losers among countless transactions is a challenge. But isn't that the excitement? In the end, whether to legalize gambling is a matter of opinion. As for yours truly, I say take a chance and see where it leads. Who knows - you could hit the mother lode!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Lucasgabd on April 13, 2023, 09:24:13 PM
Great table.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?

May be a bit hard to find that info, perhaps look at T&Cs?

Interesting suggestion
It makes me think on how difficult it is to find jurisprudence and track history of known issues with some online websites

Something like a brazilian “reclame aqui” for crypto

Has anyone seen that until this day?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: slapper on April 14, 2023, 07:38:56 AM
~snip~
It's understandable that the government should tax those casinos but I believe a government that is dictatorial that change it's mind to legalized gambling again will ask for a hefty tax to them. These will leave smaller casino not to operate in that country given that most of their profit will only go to the government which big casino can prosper given that they don't have much competition in that market in that country. Casinos will just comply to that certain country requirements just to operate, if not I'm sure the operators will surely be put in jail especially that your country is dictatorial.
Casinos are government Monopoly tokens. Changes in government policy are like playing chess with a bird. Despite your skill, the pigeon will ruin your game by playing like a pro.

However, gamblers rule the government. They want to control everything, including money. The tragedy? Small businesses suffer. They're minnows in a sea of bureaucracy, and the government eats money.

Forget the setback and celebrate this tremendous victory! Our government keeps surprising us, right? We'll persevere. We'll play for fun, right?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: tusandii on April 14, 2023, 01:22:43 PM
It's understandable that the government should tax those casinos but I believe a government that is dictatorial that change it's mind to legalized gambling again will ask for a hefty tax to them. These will leave smaller casino not to operate in that country given that most of their profit will only go to the government which big casino can prosper given that they don't have much competition in that market in that country. Casinos will just comply to that certain country requirements just to operate, if not I'm sure the operators will surely be put in jail especially that your country is dictatorial.
Casinos are a business with money circulation and profits that can be said to be huge so that the government will do anything to be able to take advantage of casinos as a source of state revenue.
After all, every casino will pay any taxes as long as the government grants a license to carry on a gambling business.
But it is true what you say that the taxes provided by the government are usually not met by small casinos because of the limited profits that are few.
Maybe the government can ask for taxes by sharing a percentage of profits so that each casino can easily manage its finances and continue to operate.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: efialtis on April 19, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
@Mahdirakib

Said it before, that`s a great source of information you have created here :)

If you would be available (and interested) in helping me out with updating licensing/KYC information for BTCGOSU listed operators, please send me an email. It`s admin and our domain name. ;)

More than 100 operators are listed and we need to go through them all and see if the information is accurate - as accurate as possible since the whole KYC subject is, of course, a mess, and will keep being a mess until crypto gambling may be regulated sometime in the far future. ;)


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BenCodie on April 19, 2023, 04:35:17 PM
This is a fantastic post and will be merited once I have some more sMerit available! It is very surprising to see that there are so little platforms left that are allowing players to play without KYC. I suppose this comes with gaining a casino license.

Great table.

I would personally like to see another column with a "worst case scenario" for each casino. E.g. if you fail to identify yourself, what would happen? Do they seize your funds, refund you the whole amount & close your account, or refund your deposit only?

May be a bit hard to find that info, perhaps look at T&Cs?

The T&C's would probably always return that the casino will confiscate funds in the worst case scenario. It is probably worth verifying that across all T&C's for each one and adding this information though.

To accurately know the worst case scenario how you have described though, would only be from experience of multiple users. Consistent results would give a somewhat definitive answer. Inconsistent results would give you a worst case but would require more information as to why it varied. I could elaborate on the process but to cut a long post short - it would require an almost impossible amount of time and manpower to be able to do this for every casino and to post accurate information/keep the information accurate.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Slow death on April 19, 2023, 10:06:15 PM
The T&C's would probably always return that the casino will confiscate funds in the worst case scenario.

honestly I can't understand this attitude of a casino withholding customer funds because they refused to do KYC, KYC's goal is to fight money laundering but if the casino says that people shouldn't deposit and withdraw without at least playing until they reach 50% or 70% of the amount they deposited then any possibility of someone stealing money and depositing it in that casino to do money laundering is impossible, so why would the casino retain people's money because it didn't pass KCY? my conclusion is that many casinos are using KYC and TOS to retain and steal customers' money.

I think the OP should get in touch with the support of each casino and ask how long it will take for the KYC to be approved, with that we would have an idea of how long each casino takes to approve KYC and in case we hear that someone complained that it was too long more time waiting for KYC while here in the OP it is that the casino does KYC quickly so people would already be cautious when they use this casino, for me having this data is something very relevant, because many casinos lie a lot especially in this KYC issue


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: BVeyron on April 24, 2023, 08:17:08 PM
It's understandable that the government should tax those casinos but I believe a government that is dictatorial that change it's mind to legalized gambling again will ask for a hefty tax to them. These will leave smaller casino not to operate in that country given that most of their profit will only go to the government which big casino can prosper given that they don't have much competition in that market in that country. Casinos will just comply to that certain country requirements just to operate, if not I'm sure the operators will surely be put in jail especially that your country is dictatorial.
Casinos are a business with money circulation and profits that can be said to be huge so that the government will do anything to be able to take advantage of casinos as a source of state revenue.
After all, every casino will pay any taxes as long as the government grants a license to carry on a gambling business.
But it is true what you say that the taxes provided by the government are usually not met by small casinos because of the limited profits that are few.
Maybe the government can ask for taxes by sharing a percentage of profits so that each casino can easily manage its finances and continue to operate.

The problem with relationship between governments and casinos is, in fact, quite old law regulations. In most countries the casino industry has been banned or at least heavily restricted for decades. With the development of online gambling sites, casino laws need improvement: there are still many unidentified definitions and lack of understanding of the modern reality


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2023, 12:57:02 AM
The T&C's would probably always return that the casino will confiscate funds in the worst case scenario.

honestly I can't understand this attitude of a casino withholding customer funds because they refused to do KYC, KYC's goal is to fight money laundering but if the casino says that people shouldn't deposit and withdraw without at least playing until they reach 50% or 70% of the amount they deposited then any possibility of someone stealing money and depositing it in that casino to do money laundering is impossible, so why would the casino retain people's money because it didn't pass KCY? my conclusion is that many casinos are using KYC and TOS to retain and steal customers' money.

I think the OP should get in touch with the support of each casino and ask how long it will take for the KYC to be approved, with that we would have an idea of how long each casino takes to approve KYC and in case we hear that someone complained that it was too long more time waiting for KYC while here in the OP it is that the casino does KYC quickly so people would already be cautious when they use this casino, for me having this data is something very relevant, because many casinos lie a lot especially in this KYC issue
In a relevant problem when casinos are suspicious or suspend accounts or block, it is very difficult for the player in question to have reasons to win those cases,they would have to open up a lot to be able to accept that the casino was wrong, but I start from a premise, if the casino Makes a Mistake, the casino quickly assumes and removes the player's balance, but if the player makes a mistake?I have not seen cases where the casino makes returns because there was an error and the Player asked for a lot of money and it was returned to him, I have not seen that, and I think that Something like that has not happened.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: borovichok on May 05, 2023, 05:22:14 AM
In a relevant problem when casinos are suspicious or suspend accounts or block, it is very difficult for the player in question to have reasons to win those cases,they would have to open up a lot to be able to accept that the casino was wrong, but I start from a premise, if the casino Makes a Mistake, the casino quickly assumes and removes the player's balance, but if the player makes a mistake?I have not seen cases where the casino makes returns because there was an error and the Player asked for a lot of money and it was returned to him, I have not seen that, and I think that Something like that has not happened.

Placing claims against casino sites is a complete waste of time, given that you cannot sue a whole firm for a simple KYC issue; you must have sufficient grounds to prosecute them, and your chances of success are only 20%. They are built in such a way that only the gamblers are expected to be incorrect. Casino is well-known around the world, and it's even more astonishing to watch the judges playing casino games. KYC standards are required for the secure withdrawal of earnings accumulated from casino games played. It is the only proof that one is the owner of that participant account; failing to pass KYC indicates that gambling accounts have been hacked. 


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: kingvirtus09 on May 05, 2023, 06:08:56 AM
There are other casinos here that do not immediately ask for kyc from the gambler even after winning more than 200$, because Livecasino is one of them, I have experienced winning here on this casino platform but I was not taken by the kyc in the arond I won more than 200$ and I didn't have any problems. Maybe I haven't reached the maximum withdrawal limit yet so I was able to withdraw and once I reach my limits I might be asked for kyc.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: panjul07 on May 07, 2023, 03:37:29 PM
Time to update the list I guess, as far as I can see there are at least 2 casinos that can be removed/deleted from the list.
Playbetr due to they are now no longer running as they are redirecting to the new betcoin.ag site, and the 2nd site is 777coin since the casino is down/offline since August last year.
For 777coin, I dont think they will come back in the near future due to the fact that the owner is also no longer active in this forum.
I havent checked all your other gambling related topic, but if 777coin is still listed in your other topic, it is the time to remove them IMO.

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[20:24 GMT, AUG 13] 777Coin will be offline for a while due to technical issues. More details will be posted within the next 24 hours.




Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: tusandii on May 07, 2023, 04:38:46 PM

The problem with relationship between governments and casinos is, in fact, quite old law regulations. In most countries the casino industry has been banned or at least heavily restricted for decades. With the development of online gambling sites, casino laws need improvement: there are still many unidentified definitions and lack of understanding of the modern reality
But what is surprising is that even though there are state governments that prohibit casinos there are still some casinos operating simply because they can afford to pay a larger amount of taxes.
Maybe the existence of an online casino can make it easier for business people because they can operate without having to pay more taxes and deal with the local legal government, but this only works clandestinely.
There are some countries that prohibit real casinos but they allow online casinos to operate and this is a confusing thing whereas in some countries out there they ban online casinos and give freedom to real casinos.
What you say is true that the casino law must be revised again.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on May 07, 2023, 06:39:52 PM
I think the OP should get in touch with the support of each casino and ask how long it will take for the KYC to be approved ~snip~
Most of the casino doesn't clarify that how long the KYC process will take. Generally it depends on the requested documents. The verification process doesn't take a long time if a gambler submits real documents.

Time to update the list I guess, as far as I can see there are at least 2 casinos that can be removed/deleted from the list.
Playbetr due to they are now no longer running as they are redirecting to the new betcoin.ag site, and the 2nd site is 777coin since the casino is down/offline since August last year.
Removing Playbetr from the table was already in my to-do list. But I wasn't aware of the 777Coin.com downtime. I haven't visited 777Coin for a long time. I visit Bitvest occasionally, and I thought 777coin is also operating as both casinos are owned by the same team. Anyway, thanks for the info. I have removed Playbetr and 777Coin from the list.

@tusandii, I will be happy if you guys stop the discussion about the government and tax.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 24, 2023, 04:35:07 AM
In a relevant problem when casinos are suspicious or suspend accounts or block, it is very difficult for the player in question to have reasons to win those cases,they would have to open up a lot to be able to accept that the casino was wrong, but I start from a premise, if the casino Makes a Mistake, the casino quickly assumes and removes the player's balance, but if the player makes a mistake?I have not seen cases where the casino makes returns because there was an error and the Player asked for a lot of money and it was returned to him, I have not seen that, and I think that Something like that has not happened.

Placing claims against casino sites is a complete waste of time, given that you cannot sue a whole firm for a simple KYC issue; you must have sufficient grounds to prosecute them, and your chances of success are only 20%. They are built in such a way that only the gamblers are expected to be incorrect. Casino is well-known around the world, and it's even more astonishing to watch the judges playing casino games. KYC standards are required for the secure withdrawal of earnings accumulated from casino games played. It is the only proof that one is the owner of that participant account; failing to pass KYC indicates that gambling accounts have been hacked. 

Yes, the truth is that the ability of a player or players to succeed when they accuse a casino are very low, unless the casino has many gfailures not only with that player but with others, it is the only way that can be given to know the details and have a chance of being successful,but when they are casinos with a high reputation and trust, it is illegal to do so, you will not be successful because these casinos have already established their processes in a very transparent way,and also a casino with a high reputation and trust does not It will be clouded by a case where the majority are mistakes by a player.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on June 12, 2023, 06:32:42 PM
@Peeps Place, I was following the discussion between you and 'Darker45' about my KYC related topic. You have said this in your last post

Some of the information in KYC details is incorrect. I'm not sure if he got the information from the terms of service but what is written down and what actually happens isn't always the same.

I haven't updated the 'KYC details' column for a long time, but those were the requirements when I added the casinos in the list. Now the casinos are asking for different kind of documents to verify the source of funds of the users, and I'm aware of it. Even some casinos are requesting the user to complete the identity verification by making a video call if they suspect that the user has submitted fake or edited documents. I will try to adjust those informations on my next update. Apart from these, is there more incorrect details in the 'KYC details' column?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on June 13, 2023, 05:50:35 AM
@Peeps Place, I was following the discussion between you and 'Darker45' about my KYC related topic. You have said this in your last post

Some of the information in KYC details is incorrect. I'm not sure if he got the information from the terms of service but what is written down and what actually happens isn't always the same.

I haven't updated the 'KYC details' column for a long time, but those were the requirements when I added the casinos in the list. Now the casinos are asking for different kind of documents to verify the source of funds of the users, and I'm aware of it. Even some casinos are requesting the user to complete the identity verification by making a video call if they suspect that the user has submitted fake or edited documents. I will try to adjust those informations on my next update. Apart from these, is there more incorrect details in the 'KYC details' column?

Hi Mahdirakib - thanks for the post in my thread. I also said that your licenses were correct and that your thread is a great resource. In fact, I was going to ask if you minded if I linked your thread to my other resource section.

As far as the KYC details being somewhat off, I'll mention the top two books I have rated Betcoin and Nitrobetting since they are heavily vetted because of their ratings. Also, you mentioned Betcoin in my thread. In your thread here Nitrobetting is omitted. The only real concern of your thread here is that books such as Betcoin are in the same category as the others "if needed" although their KYC is different. They only KYC if you use multiple accounts. They don't punish people based on guessed jurisdiction unless they use multiple accounts to abuse bonuses or circumvent limits. In fact, Betcoin agrees to third party arbitration and has never lost a case. I would put Nitrobetting in that same category. Other casinos seem to target winners and then punish using jurisdiction. They confiscate winnings or both deposit and winnings. Losers are left alone. It's crooked in my book and I'm not going to put any book using those tactics in the "A" category.

Your thread is excellent. The best here as far as licenses and I'd like to link it if fine with you. I'll link under other resources https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0




Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on June 13, 2023, 07:00:48 AM
@Peeps Place, I was following the discussion between you and 'Darker45' about my KYC related topic. You have said this in your last post

Some of the information in KYC details is incorrect. I'm not sure if he got the information from the terms of service but what is written down and what actually happens isn't always the same.

I haven't updated the 'KYC details' column for a long time, but those were the requirements when I added the casinos in the list. Now the casinos are asking for different kind of documents to verify the source of funds of the users, and I'm aware of it. Even some casinos are requesting the user to complete the identity verification by making a video call if they suspect that the user has submitted fake or edited documents. I will try to adjust those informations on my next update. Apart from these, is there more incorrect details in the 'KYC details' column?

Hi Mahdirakib - thanks for the post in my thread. I also said that your licenses were correct and that your thread is a great resource. In fact, I was going to ask if you minded if I linked your thread to my other resource section.

As far as the KYC details being somewhat off, I'll mention the top two books I have rated Betcoin and Nitrobetting since they are heavily vetted because of their ratings. Also, you mentioned Betcoin in my thread. In your thread here Nitrobetting is omitted. The only real concern of your thread here is that books such as Betcoin are in the same category as the others "if needed" although their KYC is different. They only KYC if you use multiple accounts. They don't punish people based on guessed jurisdiction unless they use multiple accounts to abuse bonuses or circumvent limits. In fact, Betcoin agrees to third party arbitration and has never lost a case. I would put Nitrobetting in that same category. Other casinos seem to target winners and then punish using jurisdiction. They confiscate winnings or both deposit and winnings. Losers are left alone. It's crooked in my book and I'm not going to put any book using those tactics in the "A" category.

Your thread is excellent. The best here as far as licenses and I'd like to link it if fine with you. I'll link under other resources https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0



I think that a lot is changing in the casino policy in terms of establishing requirements for passing KYC identity verification.  This policy, in particular due to recent events with lawsuits against Binance and Coinbase, will certainly tighten.  And while the anonymity of a player in a casino where payments are made in cryptocurrencies is the main advantage of such casinos and a much needed feature for millions of players who require anonymity, KYC requirements are increasingly being used in a real game.  Including in the casino, where the administration of the casino did not set this requirement before.  Almost all casinos have become afraid of violating the requirements of local regulators, who only do what they see what else American regulators come up with.  Alas, for objectivity, you need to periodically review the TOS of the casino in the part of the introduction of KYC and OP will be very good if you follow the changes and mark it in your table. 
To keep the data in the table up to date. 
And the table is generally excellent and useful to many.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on June 13, 2023, 06:19:26 PM
@Peeps Place, I was following the discussion between you and 'Darker45' about my KYC related topic. You have said this in your last post

Some of the information in KYC details is incorrect. I'm not sure if he got the information from the terms of service but what is written down and what actually happens isn't always the same.

I haven't updated the 'KYC details' column for a long time, but those were the requirements when I added the casinos in the list. Now the casinos are asking for different kind of documents to verify the source of funds of the users, and I'm aware of it. Even some casinos are requesting the user to complete the identity verification by making a video call if they suspect that the user has submitted fake or edited documents. I will try to adjust those informations on my next update. Apart from these, is there more incorrect details in the 'KYC details' column?

Hi Mahdirakib - thanks for the post in my thread. I also said that your licenses were correct and that your thread is a great resource. In fact, I was going to ask if you minded if I linked your thread to my other resource section.

As far as the KYC details being somewhat off, I'll mention the top two books I have rated Betcoin and Nitrobetting since they are heavily vetted because of their ratings. Also, you mentioned Betcoin in my thread. In your thread here Nitrobetting is omitted. The only real concern of your thread here is that books such as Betcoin are in the same category as the others "if needed" although their KYC is different. They only KYC if you use multiple accounts. They don't punish people based on guessed jurisdiction unless they use multiple accounts to abuse bonuses or circumvent limits. In fact, Betcoin agrees to third party arbitration and has never lost a case. I would put Nitrobetting in that same category. Other casinos seem to target winners and then punish using jurisdiction. They confiscate winnings or both deposit and winnings. Losers are left alone. It's crooked in my book and I'm not going to put any book using those tactics in the "A" category.

Your thread is excellent. The best here as far as licenses and I'd like to link it if fine with you. I'll link under other resources https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0



I think that a lot is changing in the casino policy in terms of establishing requirements for passing KYC identity verification.  This policy, in particular due to recent events with lawsuits against Binance and Coinbase, will certainly tighten.  And while the anonymity of a player in a casino where payments are made in cryptocurrencies is the main advantage of such casinos and a much needed feature for millions of players who require anonymity, KYC requirements are increasingly being used in a real game.  Including in the casino, where the administration of the casino did not set this requirement before.  Almost all casinos have become afraid of violating the requirements of local regulators, who only do what they see what else American regulators come up with.  Alas, for objectivity, you need to periodically review the TOS of the casino in the part of the introduction of KYC and OP will be very good if you follow the changes and mark it in your table.  
To keep the data in the table up to date.  
And the table is generally excellent and useful to many.
You may be right on Coinbase and Binance but I feel a little differently since they were sued by the United States. My feeling is that the US doesn't dictate anything in CR or Curacao. People may be sued when they enter the US but that doesn't change anything in CR or Curacao. There are a couple of books in Costa Rica, Nitrobetting and Betcrypto. They are pretty easy going with KYC unless you use multiple accounts or bet from the country of CR.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Doan9269 on June 14, 2023, 08:58:17 AM
In a relevant problem when casinos are suspicious or suspend accounts or block, it is very difficult for the player in question to have reasons to win those cases,they would have to open up a lot to be able to accept that the casino was wrong, but I start from a premise, if the casino Makes a Mistake, the casino quickly assumes and removes the player's balance, but if the player makes a mistake?I have not seen cases where the casino makes returns because there was an error and the Player asked for a lot of money and it was returned to him, I have not seen that, and I think that Something like that has not happened.

Placing claims against casino sites is a complete waste of time, given that you cannot sue a whole firm for a simple KYC issue; you must have sufficient grounds to prosecute them, and your chances of success are only 20%. They are built in such a way that only the gamblers are expected to be incorrect. Casino is well-known around the world, and it's even more astonishing to watch the judges playing casino games. KYC standards are required for the secure withdrawal of earnings accumulated from casino games played. It is the only proof that one is the owner of that participant account; failing to pass KYC indicates that gambling accounts have been hacked. 

Yes, the truth is that the ability of a player or players to succeed when they accuse a casino are very low, unless the casino has many gfailures not only with that player but with others, it is the only way that can be given to know the details and have a chance of being successful,but when they are casinos with a high reputation and trust, it is illegal to do so, you will not be successful because these casinos have already established their processes in a very transparent way,and also a casino with a high reputation and trust does not It will be clouded by a case where the majority are mistakes by a player.


Before any casino will set for launch and go into operations, they would have looked into many aspects to where gamblers are having challenges with using online casinos and try to fix as many as possible, yet the gamblers on their own way will always try to make use of the casinos to their own take and finds it more attractive but some few will still make it an attempt to go against their wishes thinking the casinos will recognize them and pave way, while everything had been stated already in their policy and terms which the casinos will never shift ground except the gambler comply to theirs.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 28, 2023, 11:20:23 PM
In a relevant problem when casinos are suspicious or suspend accounts or block, it is very difficult for the player in question to have reasons to win those cases,they would have to open up a lot to be able to accept that the casino was wrong, but I start from a premise, if the casino Makes a Mistake, the casino quickly assumes and removes the player's balance, but if the player makes a mistake?I have not seen cases where the casino makes returns because there was an error and the Player asked for a lot of money and it was returned to him, I have not seen that, and I think that Something like that has not happened.

Placing claims against casino sites is a complete waste of time, given that you cannot sue a whole firm for a simple KYC issue; you must have sufficient grounds to prosecute them, and your chances of success are only 20%. They are built in such a way that only the gamblers are expected to be incorrect. Casino is well-known around the world, and it's even more astonishing to watch the judges playing casino games. KYC standards are required for the secure withdrawal of earnings accumulated from casino games played. It is the only proof that one is the owner of that participant account; failing to pass KYC indicates that gambling accounts have been hacked. 

Yes, the truth is that the ability of a player or players to succeed when they accuse a casino are very low, unless the casino has many gfailures not only with that player but with others, it is the only way that can be given to know the details and have a chance of being successful,but when they are casinos with a high reputation and trust, it is illegal to do so, you will not be successful because these casinos have already established their processes in a very transparent way,and also a casino with a high reputation and trust does not It will be clouded by a case where the majority are mistakes by a player.


Before any casino will set for launch and go into operations, they would have looked into many aspects to where gamblers are having challenges with using online casinos and try to fix as many as possible, yet the gamblers on their own way will always try to make use of the casinos to their own take and finds it more attractive but some few will still make it an attempt to go against their wishes thinking the casinos will recognize them and pave way, while everything had been stated already in their policy and terms which the casinos will never shift ground except the gambler comply to theirs.

Normally, casinos will always take people's opinions into consideration, but it is obvious that for a player to get a centralized, reliable casino without KYC, I think it is not possible, because the hard mechanism of KYC will always be present in them, Only here the platform that I know is very good without KYC is freebitco.in, otherwise I think that all casinos have the KYC requirement, sometimes the KYC requirement for a casino is mandatory, because governments force that if there is not KYC there are no licenses and there are no permits and they are closed, and lose a business model, because I think that the casino prefers to lose some clients than its business.

I don't know if in the future things regarding KYC and the casino will change, but they should, anonymity and privacy for some players is everything.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Blitzboy on June 29, 2023, 04:12:19 PM
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Normally, casinos will always take people's opinions into consideration, but it is obvious that for a player to get a centralized, reliable casino without KYC, I think it is not possible, because the hard mechanism of KYC will always be present in them, Only here the platform that I know is very good without KYC is freebitco.in, otherwise I think that all casinos have the KYC requirement, sometimes the KYC requirement for a casino is mandatory, because governments force that if there is not KYC there are no licenses and there are no permits and they are closed, and lose a business model, because I think that the casino prefers to lose some clients than its business.

I don't know if in the future things regarding KYC and the casino will change, but they should, anonymity and privacy for some players is everything.

KYC protocols in digital casinos present a double-sided issue. There are players cherishing privacy, and then regulatory authorities insist on KYC to curb fraud. Balancing privacy with regulation is tricky. Yet, some online casinos, like freebitco.in, navigate this tightrope, offering services sans KYC. But they're rare in a landscape favoring security over secrecy.

Ideally, tech could provide a win-win solution, ensuring both anonymity and safety. Blockchain could be a way to verify identity without personal data exposure. But achieving this requires the gaming sector and regulators to innovate and collaborate effectively.



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 13, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
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Normally, casinos will always take people's opinions into consideration, but it is obvious that for a player to get a centralized, reliable casino without KYC, I think it is not possible, because the hard mechanism of KYC will always be present in them, Only here the platform that I know is very good without KYC is freebitco.in, otherwise I think that all casinos have the KYC requirement, sometimes the KYC requirement for a casino is mandatory, because governments force that if there is not KYC there are no licenses and there are no permits and they are closed, and lose a business model, because I think that the casino prefers to lose some clients than its business.

I don't know if in the future things regarding KYC and the casino will change, but they should, anonymity and privacy for some players is everything.

KYC protocols in digital casinos present a double-sided issue. There are players cherishing privacy, and then regulatory authorities insist on KYC to curb fraud. Balancing privacy with regulation is tricky. Yet, some online casinos, like freebitco.in, navigate this tightrope, offering services sans KYC. But they're rare in a landscape favoring security over secrecy.

Ideally, tech could provide a win-win solution, ensuring both anonymity and safety. Blockchain could be a way to verify identity without personal data exposure. But achieving this requires the gaming sector and regulators to innovate and collaborate effectively.



If we remember that regulations come from governments, it is something that I think many will not like, not to say that most will not like it, firstly because we all know that we live in a controlled system where governments do not It's convenient for them That there are people who have a lot of economic power, they don't like it, but how are they going to control them? They are controlled by debt, by necessity, so obviously, like Bitcoin and crypto technology, they don't have access, they want to do whatever it takes to get in, they take advantage of casinos.

The casinos take them as an entry agent, they know that the majority are fiat, but when using crypto, they enter with the story of protecting the players, and how? with KYC, otherwise the casino does not exist, it is something like intimidation.

Sometimes when we see several threads on the forum that have to do with KYC and the endless debate on KYC, that in part we as players must sometimes accept that a KYC must be done to make a withdrawal because if it is not complied with there is no money, so the retirement banner makes any player not like it and secondly, they feel very pressured, for this reason when we see this type of situation we have to evaluate whether or not it is worth leaving a KYC, and like me I have said it, comply with the KYC only in our favorite casinos as long as they are known to be extremely reliable, in my case stake.com, bitasino.io, uelbtis, among others are casinos that have proven to be very reliable and of very good quality. reputation, and luckily in the lining we have the Ann threads of each of them.

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Normally, casinos will always take people's opinions into consideration, but it is obvious that for a player to get a centralized, reliable casino without KYC, I think it is not possible, because the hard mechanism of KYC will always be present in them, Only here the platform that I know is very good without KYC is freebitco.in, otherwise I think that all casinos have the KYC requirement, sometimes the KYC requirement for a casino is mandatory, because governments force that if there is not KYC there are no licenses and there are no permits and they are closed, and lose a business model, because I think that the casino prefers to lose some clients than its business.

I don't know if in the future things regarding KYC and the casino will change, but they should, anonymity and privacy for some players is everything.

KYC protocols in digital casinos present a double-sided issue. There are players cherishing privacy, and then regulatory authorities insist on KYC to curb fraud. Balancing privacy with regulation is tricky. Yet, some online casinos, like freebitco.in, navigate this tightrope, offering services sans KYC. But they're rare in a landscape favoring security over secrecy.

Ideally, tech could provide a win-win solution, ensuring both anonymity and safety. Blockchain could be a way to verify identity without personal data exposure. But achieving this requires the gaming sector and regulators to innovate and collaborate effectively.


Exactly, you have said everything in a more summarized way, but that is why it is the fight of No KYC, governments that use excuses to protect players should not be pleased when in reality what they want is the big cut for them, and it is not fair, because governments or banks should have participation in technology, nor get into people's personal data to later charge high tax rates, it is the dirtiest thing they can do, what happens is that there are people in the world who are from countries where corruption has not yet come to the fore, such as in South America or in any country where things are more evident, there are people here in the forum who still defend governments, it is Incredible, knowing that a government won't help them unless that person gives them something they want most.

So if the casino industry is privatized, for example, a worldwide organization where it gives them the power to be legal and governments don't poke their noses in, it seems to me that it is the most correct thing to do, so many frauds and deceptions would be avoided.

In fact, this is such a sensitive issue that KYC defenders are apprehensive on either side because they believe that governments will protect it, then privacy lovers appear who know what this system is like but don't say it, there are also people who don't care. it does not matter if they give their data or not, because perhaps they see it as something normal due to the system under which they have shown us things, where a cgovernment will always have control, but personally, I am a person who does not kneel in front of to any government, because it would be the end for me, there comes a time when the government puts its hands in its pocket and has to accept it , and no, that's not the way it is.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on July 19, 2023, 01:55:53 PM
Update: Betnomi and Coinslotty has been removed from the list. There is no sign for Betnomi to get back into the business. Updated the KYC requirements of Freebitco.in as they have implemented new terms to make the website professional. Based on the new terms, they may request for the KYC verification. Blackjack.fun has removed the license validator link. It has been updated in the list too.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: bitmover on September 14, 2023, 06:32:51 PM
I found one more gambling platform which does not require KYC yet.

https://www.l0tt0.com/

here we can see the owner talking about it

OP I was wondering if your lotto got all  it takes to operate as I did a search for your license. I did not see anything of that nature then what confidence do you think members here would have doing anything with your lotto.
I have no idea of this question have been asked by anybody but I am still curious to ask as well. Do you require KYC? What is the minimum age limit to take part in the lotto?
Are there restrictions for countries from taking part in the lotto game.
Please do well to answer these questions as they are very important to know.

Since we only accept btc and payout in btc- we aren't a money service company. therefore it's perfectly legal to opertate in the US, since bitcoin is not a regulated currency- and the gambling act only restricts gambling to regulated currencies, like the USD. With that said, I have incorporated offshore and will be licensed in the upcoming months. It's not cheap..
So for now the site is owned and operated under a US corporation. You must be 18+. And again, KYC only comes into play when you are tapped into the banking world, ie take cash deposits. Although, that's a gray area still.

In all honestly, it's the wild west right now. The legislation is too slow and our current laws were not ready for a globally adopted unregulated currency, like bitcoin. This is the example my lawyer gave me... If you owned a bar (in a state where gambling was illegal), you could have a slot machine that accepted gumballs, and paid out in gumballs. The machine it self isn't illegal.. But that all changes when It accepts regulated currency, ie quarters. Now.. gumballs (like btc) do have a market value... And some states do have gambling laws that go further than Federal Law, which prohibits gambling of anything of value. But as you can imagine, that's a hard law to enforce, and state AG's have bigger problems. So again, for now, I'm running it within the US, but will move it offshore and get a license soon.

A quote from my lawyer... "It's all a matter of risk and the size of your balls." (I'm quoting him, but not legally quoting him- since he told me not to. heh)

Now, what does this mean to you- the player? Nothing. You are not doing anything more illegal playing on my site than say stake. It's all about the country/state you live in. If you feel comfortable (legally) playing at other casinos, you should feel the same playing at mine.

I hope that answers your question.



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on September 15, 2023, 06:47:49 PM
~snip~
Thank you for the info. I will add them to the list within next few days. I'm going to recheck the license details of each casino, and it will take some times to do that.

BTW, I just checked the thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5466586.0) on your local board. Someone has mentioned about dapp casino there. But you have to keep in mind that all the dapp or web3 casinos aren't safe. There is a safety risk if you connect your wallet to the web3 casino. Someone has mentioned about 0xBet casino as well. But 0xBet isn't a KYC free casino, they also reserve the right to ask the crypto users to complete the KYC verification (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463505.msg62713349#msg62713349).


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Synchronice on September 18, 2023, 06:47:53 AM
I can't find a list of VPN friendly casinos but since this one is about KYC friendly ones, I'll ask in this thread. Can anyone recommend any VPN-friendly casino that also offers live games? I am not afraid of KYC, I am not going to deposit a lot, just want to have fun sometimes and that makes me to think that I am never going to withdraw. But I definitely don't want to get banned immediately for VPN usage, so, which casino would you recommend me to gamble? Just want to protect my privacy, I am going to use shared VPN IP, not dedicated one.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on September 18, 2023, 02:42:42 PM
~snip~
Casino doesn't ban the user immediately for using the VPN. There are a small number of casinos which accept the usage of VPN, but most other casinos have some restrictions against VPN usage. There is a high chance that KYC verification requirement will be applied on you if a casino detect the usage of VPN. Casino may request you to complete the identity verification by suspecting you as a multiple account user if you use the shared VPN. You should ask the support team of the casino directly to get a green signal for using the VPN. You should also check whether your country is restricted by the live games providers or not.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on October 08, 2023, 04:33:59 PM
Update: I have rechecked the license details and KYC data of each casino to update the table. BK8 has Curacao license now, Chips.gg has lost their gambling license. I have added and removed the details accordingly. FoggyStar has been removed from the list as the casino has stopped operating. Added 5 new casinos in the list, they are CoinsGame, L0tt0, Sherbet, Shuffle and Vavada.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: erep on October 08, 2023, 07:28:01 PM
Casino doesn't ban the user immediately for using the VPN. There are a small number of casinos which accept the usage of VPN, but most other casinos have some restrictions against VPN usage. There is a high chance that KYC verification requirement will be applied on you if a casino detect the usage of VPN. Casino may request you to complete the identity verification by suspecting you as a multiple account user if you use the shared VPN. You should ask the support team of the casino directly to get a green signal for using the VPN. You should also check whether your country is restricted by the live games providers or not.
Using VPN apps for gambling leads to a history of suspicious activity on your account, you may be suspected of living in a restricted country, or you may be accused of having multiple accounts. So you must carefully understand the terms and conditions of each casino before using a VPN application, if the casino prohibits the use of VPN then your account can be frozen at any time or withdrawals will not be processed. I agree with you, the solution is to contact the support team to ask about legalizing VPN use. If the team responds that VPN use is not prohibited then I suggest you use the premium version so that your IP tracking history is not suspicious.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: AmoreJaz on October 08, 2023, 10:18:46 PM
Casino doesn't ban the user immediately for using the VPN. There are a small number of casinos which accept the usage of VPN, but most other casinos have some restrictions against VPN usage. There is a high chance that KYC verification requirement will be applied on you if a casino detect the usage of VPN. Casino may request you to complete the identity verification by suspecting you as a multiple account user if you use the shared VPN. You should ask the support team of the casino directly to get a green signal for using the VPN. You should also check whether your country is restricted by the live games providers or not.
Using VPN apps for gambling leads to a history of suspicious activity on your account, you may be suspected of living in a restricted country, or you may be accused of having multiple accounts. So you must carefully understand the terms and conditions of each casino before using a VPN application, if the casino prohibits the use of VPN then your account can be frozen at any time or withdrawals will not be processed. I agree with you, the solution is to contact the support team to ask about legalizing VPN use. If the team responds that VPN use is not prohibited then I suggest you use the premium version so that your IP tracking history is not suspicious.

being cautious is always the best to get out of trouble. if you are in doubt, check their terms and consult their support. however, not all support are knowledgeable of their terms, so better take a snapshot of your conversations with them, so you have proof in case something unexpected arise in the future. some casinos are not vocal about the VPN use, so you do need to confirm it from them and not just from feedback or outside sources.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on October 09, 2023, 09:38:39 PM
Great thread. Here are more.

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Bet999
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Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: jrrsparkles on October 09, 2023, 11:10:07 PM
Update: I have rechecked the license details and KYC data of each casino to update the table. BK8 has Curacao license now, Chips.gg has lost their gambling license. I have added and removed the details accordingly. FoggyStar has been removed from the list as the casino has stopped operating. Added 5 new casinos in the list, they are CoinsGame, L0tt0, Sherbet, Shuffle and Vavada.

Good to see the thread updated with the latest possible information which will be surely helpful for everyone to determine the KYC requirements while choosing their casino and whoever registers on a casino should read the Terms and conditions and only agree if you are sure about it.

Failure to do it causes a lot of misunderstanding between users and casinos at later events.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on October 15, 2023, 04:01:49 PM
~snip~
Thank you for the suggestions. Most of your suggested sportsbook doesn't have any ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum. I don't add those casinos and sportsbooks who doesn't have an ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum. I have ignored Nitrobetting as their old representative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706) has a bad reputation in the forum. Wintomato was having some issues when I had checked them to add in the list, that's why they aren't in the list. BK8btc is already in the list, I might consider about Moonbet on the next update.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on October 27, 2023, 11:28:56 PM
Yeah, I don't understand why stake is taking so long. Poker is the one they they are missing, basically what the whole crypto gambling thing is missing. There is so much money to be made without any risk, just make the platform and collect rake. With such a huge player base it's such a waste to not implement it faster!

Well first of all, the poker market is pretty dry and there isnt that many money to be made unless they integrated themselves with the GGpoker network which is currently the biggest poker network around. On top of that, poker has really strict policy on wether you are allowed to play in the respective country or not and in this case a crypto casino, isnt that really strict on that

The poker market is also heavily centralized. In most countries, the power lays within few entities, and to enter their market means a very large amount of hoops, networking, etc. I do not think that Stake have this kind of weight in any sector...and while they might release something interesting, it will probably be inferior once the vale of excitement has gone.

Maybe, if their reputation was not so damaged and their image was in a much more positive light...I don't think that's how it will play out though. Just by observing the business during my visits to this board and the scam accusation board, I think that mostly their existing members will play out of excitement, then the concept will bust. We will see, if it gets released.
Well, I honestly do not know what made you think that Stake does not have the type of networking and connections required to get into the poker market and come out with something everyone would truly enjoy playing and also can turn out profitable for the company. And also, talking about reputation, there is absolutely no gambling casino, both physical and online, that do not have some form of scam accusation against them. Understand that most gamblers are some set of angry people who in reality do not understand what gambling is all about, they are quick to accuse a casino of cheating them out of their money after losing the money.

So, the reputation is nothing to be a problem, in-fact, to me, Stake is one of the most trusted and reputation casinos around, they also have the money and whatever kind of connection required to pull this off, if they weren't capable, they wouldn't try, this i am very sure of, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

Well there are people who do not know stake.com in its entirety and all its possible things they can do, connections and everything they have scope, just establishing themselves in the USA with stake.us is something very significant, we are the person who when We see that some friends are in the USA, the majority say that they do not have access to many casinos, because of a ban that there is, the truth is that stake.us has resolved so if the scope of stake.com they believe that they are not enough, I don't think that The name may be enough for some people, but personally, I think that stake.com has so much potential that when I release something related to poker, I'm sure that the majority of the Bitcointalk community will go there, because I've seen that there are almost not many sites that make poker relevant and this is something that not everyone knows, and generally the people are very receptive, I personally would like a poker platform where all the time, 24 hours a day, it would be open to possible tournaments or make poker blitzx with PVP mode.

If in the past some casinos have achieved it, but they were not able to maintain themselves, I think this is a good option to do it, I have also seen that poker has lost its essence in terms of the motivation of the players, and many times it is because there are slots, which is very exciting, but I consider that poker has much more scope, in fact many famous chess players are going to specialize in poker, because they can say that the same mental strength that they apply thinking about chess can fly with poker because that way they win more money, and it is understandable, of course you need to have a lot of experience in poker to become an expert, I love poker, but as I see that there is a lot about this game in the casinos, well it is something that is lost, I think that stake.com will bring back that fever for poker, and since they are they must be putting together a great infrastructure to stay entertained all day long with just playing poker.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 09, 2023, 03:22:44 PM
hello

thanks for the listing. very helpful

as I have a problem right now with Blackjack.Fun I checked your list and found this

BlackJack   |   Yes*•   |   Satya Code SRL

means they are licensed in Curacao

I found a website saying Blackjack.fun Casino is operating without a valid license.

the link to the site is https://casino.guru/blackjack-fun-casino-review (https://casino.guru/blackjack-fun-casino-review)

maybe OP or someone else can tell me how to find out if it is true that they are operating without a valid license? I want to be sure that this is true before I will write it in my soon coming Scam accusation thread.

any help is very much appreciated

cheers



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on November 09, 2023, 09:05:23 PM
~snip~
The company 'Satya Code SRL' is located in Costa Rica. In reality, there is no existence of Costa Rican gambling license. And there is no company registered under Curacao with the registration number of Blackjack.fun license operator. However, Blackjack.fun used to have a license validator link from Curacao, but it isn't available since last few months. BTW, in which type of scam accusation thread you want to include this information?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 10, 2023, 07:53:01 AM
~snip~
The company 'Satya Code SRL' is located in Costa Rica. In reality, there is no existence of Costa Rican gambling license. And there is no company registered under Curacao with the registration number of Blackjack.fun license operator. However, Blackjack.fun used to have a license validator link from Curacao, but it isn't available since last few months. BTW, in which type of scam accusation thread you want to include this information?

Thank you for your reply and information. I appreciate it very much.
I will try to open a scam accusation here in the bitcointalk subforum - Scam Accusations-.

I will try to give you a brief explanation of what happened.

Sorry that it was longer than I thought

I'm quite an expert in almost every game and I love blackjack. So you went to Blackjack Fun and saw that they were offering free blackjack tournaments. I found a lot of bugs and glitches. So every bug I found I reported those bugs in their thread. so everyone can see and read that I only wanted to be helpful. the OP even thanked me and started to offer some incentive for everyone who will report bugs.
I found a bug that I did not report because I was trying to reproduce it when a player used this glitch against me on the table, maybe by accident or on purpose. I did not report him and the glitch. then I found the glitch that gives the option to reset the timer. so I reset the timer many times to be sure it was the glitch.

A few days ago, when I wanted to go to the site to play, I only got the KYC page and could not go to any other place of the site.
I PMed the OP and asked for my username. if I were a scammer or cheater to exploit this glitch would I give him my username? NO
and by the way, those free rolls have a prize of 1 USDT. I told him my username at the tables and he said ahhh some players reported me as I was resetting the timer. oh I forgot to say he even invited me to a 200USDT invitation only tourney to show his appreciation. I asked him to let me back on the site but he told me to fill out the KYC. I told him why that? I had 23-24 USDT in my wallet from the free rolls and I did not even ask for a withdrawal so why do I need to KYC? so I did not do the KYC.
Result is that I understood that he misused being kind and helpful and even would not give me the chance to withdraw the 23-24 USDT. I was never in for the money, so I offered that he send the money to someone who a legendary user can point out as a donation.

Therefore I decided to open a scam accusation and even will if it does not help that he will come down from the tree to inform the games providers.

Cheers

BTW I found this site claiming Blackjack fun weekly giveaway $50k  ???
https://partnersofblackjack.fun


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on November 10, 2023, 05:44:55 PM
I found a bug that I did not report because I was trying to reproduce it when a player used this glitch against me on the table, maybe by accident or on purpose. I did not report him and the glitch. then I found the glitch that gives the option to reset the timer. so I reset the timer many times to be sure it was the glitch.
You should have reported the bug immediately instead of using it several times. It would have been enough to reset the timer one time with screen recorder on without repeating it many times. Based on the terms, Blackjack.fun reserves the right to verify your identity (KYC process) at any time. What you have done was suspicious from their view, which has triggered the mandatory KYC on your account.

Moreover, there are several casinos operating with a company registered and located in Costa Rica. Maybe Casino Guru didn't consider it as a license as the Costa Rican gambling license doesn't exist. Most probably you won't receive enough support from the Bitcointalk community on your scam accusation thread against Blackjack.fun.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 10, 2023, 07:58:01 PM
I found a bug that I did not report because I was trying to reproduce it when a player used this glitch against me on the table, maybe by accident or on purpose. I did not report him and the glitch. then I found the glitch that gives the option to reset the timer. so I reset the timer many times to be sure it was the glitch.
You should have reported the bug immediately instead of using it several times. It would have been enough to reset the timer one time with screen recorder on without repeating it many times. Based on the terms, Blackjack.fun reserves the right to verify your identity (KYC process) at any time. What you have done was suspicious from their view, which has triggered the mandatory KYC on your account.

Moreover, there are several casinos operating with a company registered and located in Costa Rica. Maybe Casino Guru didn't consider it as a license as the Costa Rican gambling license doesn't exist. Most probably you won't receive enough support from the Bitcointalk community on your scam accusation thread against Blackjack.fun.

you should not only read, but also understand what is written. and if there is any doubt, you should ask if you want to handle it in a fair way. but you are just taking sides, and that is not fair. I love fairness.

Since I have no bad conscience and have not abused the exploit, I will tell you and anyone interested in my scam accusation how it was.

Please try to understand what I am saying and not what you want to understand, let me do it for you ELI5.
When I found a similar bug/glitch that a user was using against me at the table, I reset the timer again and again and again and again with the same hand. Now you will ask why? because the guy who used it against me was at the table with me. if he complained then logic tells me that he did not use the glitch on purpose and if he did not complain then he was aware of the glitch.
now why did i not report it immediately? why should i? it was not the same glitch the other user used. so I wanted to find the one he used and reproduce it. this is the way I work. by the way it was a free roll of 1 USDT LOL yeah I wanted to win another 100 free rolls by using this glitch. get real man!!!!

as for my scamming accusation just let the members decide and not you alone and not the blackjack fun owner the cheap scammer


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Rating Place on November 10, 2023, 08:32:09 PM
~snip~
Thank you for the suggestions. Most of your suggested sportsbook doesn't have any ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum. I don't add those casinos and sportsbooks who doesn't have an ANN thread in Bitcointalk forum. I have ignored Nitrobetting as their old representative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706) has a bad reputation in the forum. Wintomato was having some issues when I had checked them to add in the list, that's why they aren't in the list. BK8btc is already in the list, I might consider about Moonbet on the next update.

Nitrobetting is one of the safest casinos of all. They have 0 scam accusations in the last year. Their ANN thread was started May 2021 with no red marks. Some of the casinos you have on the list have up to 15 open scam accusations in 2023 alone. All scam accusations are filtered here by book https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0 for 2023


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on November 10, 2023, 09:22:42 PM
This is quite comprehensive enough to build a database out of it. It gives me clue as to which and what to commit when using these Casinos.

It also reminds me that due diligence must be done subsequently, when considering any casino to engage in gambling. Imagine committing resources to casino you know very little about just because you perceive that they have possible wins only to find out that they have compliance issues.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Bushdark on November 11, 2023, 06:09:56 PM
This is quite comprehensive enough to build a database out of it. It gives me clue as to which and what to commit when using these Casinos.

It also reminds me that due diligence must be done subsequently, when considering any casino to engage in gambling. Imagine committing resources to casino you know very little about just because you perceive that they have possible wins only to find out that they have compliance issues.
What I mostly care about is using a reputable casino that is real and have good games I can bet on without any problem or KYC issues. Many gamblers these days do not care about KYc except those ones that had been in the gambling industry for a very long time. We should also be prepared to use good site that would not steal from us or deceived us just like many casinos that are available online. There are also many casinos online that are not licensed but keep claiming that they are a licensed casino.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Sunderland on November 11, 2023, 07:33:18 PM
~snip~
The company 'Satya Code SRL' is located in Costa Rica. In reality, there is no existence of Costa Rican gambling license. And there is no company registered under Curacao with the registration number of Blackjack.fun license operator. However, Blackjack.fun used to have a license validator link from Curacao, but it isn't available since last few months. BTW, in which type of scam accusation thread you want to include this information?

Yep Costa Rica gambling license actually does not exist, however the casino operators may incorporate a Costa Rica gaming company who have a "data processing license" (lol).

So its not a real gambling license such as Curacao, Malta and else but still consider as legal by the Costa Rica gov.

Well the Gov doesnt care about it as long as the casino operators pay the taxes and not allowing Costarican to play on their platform, also the operators only allowed to do any transaction via crypto not fiat or other cash payment system.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 11, 2023, 07:48:47 PM
~snip~
The company 'Satya Code SRL' is located in Costa Rica. In reality, there is no existence of Costa Rican gambling license. And there is no company registered under Curacao with the registration number of Blackjack.fun license operator. However, Blackjack.fun used to have a license validator link from Curacao, but it isn't available since last few months. BTW, in which type of scam accusation thread you want to include this information?

Yep Costa Rica gambling license actually does not exist, however the casino operators may incorporate a Costa Rica gaming company who have a "data processing license" (lol).

So its not a real gambling license such as Curacao, Malta and else but still consider as legal by the Costa Rica gov.

Well the Gov doesnt care about it as long as the casino operators pay the taxes and not allowing Costarican to play on their platform, also the operators only allowed to do any transaction via crypto not fiat or other cash payment system.

very interesting info, thanks for that!

how comes that you are familiar with this kind of way to get a so called license? if I may ask

for me it looks like that Blackjack.fun has no valid license

cheers


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Sunderland on November 11, 2023, 08:18:56 PM
very interesting info, thanks for that!

how comes that you are familiar with this kind of way to get a so called license? if I may ask

for me it looks like that Blackjack.fun has no valid license

cheers

Np mate, I ever worked for some casinos in the past and knew a bit how it works from the inside.

Back to the topic, any casinos with that license is consider valid and legal and they can operate with it but maybe not easy to solve any dispute (the legal way) between player and casino with the Costa Rica "data processing license" for now, not until the Costa Rica gov regulated a real gambling license there.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 12, 2023, 06:41:39 AM
very interesting info, thanks for that!

how comes that you are familiar with this kind of way to get a so called license? if I may ask

for me it looks like that Blackjack.fun has no valid license

cheers

Np mate, I ever worked for some casinos in the past and knew a bit how it works from the inside.

Back to the topic, any casinos with that license is consider valid and legal and they can operate with it but maybe not easy to solve any dispute (the legal way) between player and casino with the Costa Rica "data processing license" for now, not until the Costa Rica gov regulated a real gambling license there.

thanks again, very much appreciated

do you also know the cost such a temporary solution?

cheers


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Sunderland on November 12, 2023, 02:56:42 PM
thanks again, very much appreciated

do you also know the cost such a temporary solution?

cheers

Last year it cost less than $7k, with tax and other administration fees still less than $10k in total for the 1st year.
But there are still other fees depends on the agreement between the casino operator and the 3rd party company/firm who handle the registration of the license.
There are 2 licences but I forgot the other one, and its a bit expensive from the one above.

Costa Rica license is cheaper than Curacao, many new casinos will choose Costa Rica because it can save -/+ 50% of their expenses for the license yearly.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Youngkhngdiddy on November 12, 2023, 03:42:46 PM
Last year it cost less than $7k, with tax and other administration fees still less than $10k in total for the 1st year.
But there are still other fees depends on the agreement between the casino operator and the 3rd party company/firm who handle the registration of the license.
There are 2 licences but I forgot the other one, and its a bit expensive from the one above.

Costa Rica license is cheaper than Curacao, many new casinos will choose Costa Rica because it can save -/+ 50% of their expenses for the license yearly.
  Choosing the right location for an online casino business is certainly one of the most important steps when planning to open an online casino. One of the most popular and respectable destinations is Malta, with online gambling being the fastest growing industry. When planning to establish a business within the EU, Malta is usually one of the first choices to consider. This is due to a number of benefits, such as favorable tax rates or no profit tax for players. Maltese online gambling license is considered to be highly reputable.
In regard to the question, one can obtain four different licenses and they are divided as follows:
· Class 1 license – this license covers casino-type games, skill games, and online lotteries
· Class 2 license – covers fixed odds betting, spread betting, and pool betting
· Class 3 license – this license covers betting exchanges and peer to peer gaming
· Class 4 license – intended for software vendors, B2B license
   The annual fees for each of these licenses are different (from 10.000 EUR to 25.000 EUR).
Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) is the responsible authority for regulating the licensing procedure, as well as for issuing licenses. The overall process of applying for and obtaining a license in Malta is not complicated. However, it is advisable to do this with the help of a local expert in this field who will be able to assist with every detail.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: so98nn on November 12, 2023, 03:48:50 PM
This is an excellent article regarding licensing processes. I did not know there are only 4 licensing authorities that hold at most importance throughout the globe and gambling licensing issuance. So is it like if a casino is from let’s say Indian base but it holds license from any of the listed masters then it’s fine for all over the world? Like it doesn’t matter if Indian authority if any has issued the license or not? I know it’s weird question but it’s important in many senses. For example, there are casinos out there who claims to be holding licenses issued by other countries authorities rather than their own. So it makes questionable whether it is valid for the locals or not. In India gambling is still illegal however somehow we are not in the ban country list when it comes playing games around foreign gambling sites. Not sure how that works?

But they do accept our government issued IDs so those master licenses are accepted here?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: JackpotRacer on November 12, 2023, 04:12:03 PM
thanks again, very much appreciated

do you also know the cost such a temporary solution?

cheers

Last year it cost less than $7k, with tax and other administration fees still less than $10k in total for the 1st year.
But there are still other fees depends on the agreement between the casino operator and the 3rd party company/firm who handle the registration of the license.
There are 2 licences but I forgot the other one, and its a bit expensive from the one above.

Costa Rica license is cheaper than Curacao, many new casinos will choose Costa Rica because it can save -/+ 50% of their expenses for the license yearly.

@Sunderland

thank you very much again for this helpful info. good to know that there is someone like you with this knowledge regarding online gambling licenses.

@:Youngkhngdiddy

you wrote: - Class 1 license – this license covers casino-type games, skill games, and online lotteries

I thought skill games don't need a gambling license. any idea or info on that? I am asking as I am right now working on a 10 card rummy skill game

cheers


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Sunderland on November 12, 2023, 05:23:00 PM
- snip -

Yeah that is Malta license and the annual fees is a bit expensive compare with the Curacao, but dont forget about the other expenses when the platform decided to choose Malta gambling license than the others.
There is an additional taxes and its up to annual revenue of the platform, more profits = bigger the taxes.

Not easy to get this license, they are very strict and takes time (months) also you have to fly to Malta, not like other licenses where you can apply online.
The casino also must report the audit of the software periodically and you have to incoorperate with the local company there because the hardware and software must be located in Malta.
KYC, underage, restricted countries, fairness, etc are important matters for them (MGA/Malta Gaming Authority).
So any platform with Malta license will be very strict on everything.

These only some of the basic requirements, we havent talks about the other complicated requirements to obtain the license, Im not an expert but this might answer the question why most of the crypto casino using Curacao license than the Malta license.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: summonerrk on November 12, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Wiwo on November 12, 2023, 09:37:10 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
If I wherein you shoes I will do the same since I already have a prize to claim once I pass through the KYC process,  to get my money out and that is something I know many other people will do same unless you don't trust the casino to be able to handle you privacy but if it does then kyc is not an issues.

We have to come to terms with that fact that KYC is what most casinos and governments require from the gamblers and this helps to solve a lot of issues such as removing possible underage gambling.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Oilacris on November 12, 2023, 09:59:35 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
If I wherein you shoes I will do the same since I already have a prize to claim once I pass through the KYC process,  to get my money out and that is something I know many other people will do same unless you don't trust the casino to be able to handle you privacy but if it does then kyc is not an issues.

We have to come to terms with that fact that KYC is what most casinos and governments require from the gamblers and this helps to solve a lot of issues such as removing possible underage gambling.
When it comes to money specially a significant amount then for sure it wont really be that a problem for people to comply on whats been asked. We've been dealing for long already about exposed identification or privacy not online but in real life. Therefore, there's not really that a difference and now we have some locked up funds on the site and asking for some verification?
It wont really be an issue and just like been said that most gamblers or people would really be agreeing and would really be complying it right away.

If KYC is been asked on the time that we do register then this is the only time that crypto gamblers or people would really be flocking away out of it. Why?
Sharing up information just to play is never been that ideal on which we do know that we could be able to do such thing without sharing up our identity into other
places. We do know on how its been highly frowned upon into this space.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Yogee on November 12, 2023, 10:05:40 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You seem to be contradicting yourself when you said you are against KYC and still say that Roobet is a wonderful casino since they ask for level 1 verification upfront as stated in the OP. That is unlike most gambling platforms here where they only require you if needed - your case with 500 is a good example of that.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on November 13, 2023, 04:57:48 PM
So is it like if a casino is from let’s say Indian base but it holds license from any of the listed masters then it’s fine for all over the world? Like it doesn’t matter if Indian authority if any has issued the license or not?
It depends on the license provider and the gambling related laws of a country. Usually, a casino can operate in most of the countries in the world by having a license from Curacao. But Curacao licensed casinos aren't allowed to operate in some European countries. Casinos need to have a license from 'UK Gambling Commission' to operate in those European countries. There are a few more countries with similar restrictions. That's why some casinos have taken gambling license from several authority to operate in different countries without any restrictions and problems. AFAIK, online gambling isn't illegal in India.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: KarlReverud on November 13, 2023, 09:23:05 PM
So is it like if a casino is from let’s say Indian base but it holds license from any of the listed masters then it’s fine for all over the world? Like it doesn’t matter if Indian authority if any has issued the license or not?
It depends on the license provider and the gambling related laws of a country. Usually, a casino can operate in most of the countries in the world by having a license from Curacao. But Curacao licensed casinos aren't allowed to operate in some European countries. Casinos need to have a license from 'UK Gambling Commission' to operate in those European countries. There are a few more countries with similar restrictions. That's why some casinos have taken gambling license from several authority to operate in different countries without any restrictions and problems. AFAIK, online gambling isn't illegal in India.

UKGC licenses are only valid for the UK. Unless the country has some national licencing, any other global licensor like Malta, Curacao and Gibraltar is fine.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on December 03, 2023, 11:57:23 AM
Update: Anonibet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55365.0), one of the oldest and anonymous Bitcoin betting site has closed their business recently. I have removed them from the list. The list of anonymous betting site is getting limited. Anyway, I have added MoneyPot in the list. They aren't strict with the KYC, but have some age and citizenship verification rules.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Agbe on December 03, 2023, 06:50:08 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why you case was speedy.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: erep on December 03, 2023, 09:40:26 PM
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why you case was speedy.
Even though users have opposed not uploading documents but they have no option to withdraw funds and claim rewards which are given to users who have valid KYC documents. However, I don't know 500 casinos yet but 500 casinos have been added to the list on the main topic and they are very fast in the KYC verification process, so other top casinos should also do the same for service priority for users, don't make KYC verification difficult as they will tend to find another top casino that is friendly in service and quick to handle any problems.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Bitinity on December 03, 2023, 10:18:03 PM
I checked some casinos on the list and I found 1 casino that seems to be on "temporary closed", it is exbet. I got below message when I accessed this casino:

Quote
As of 18 July 2023, the Exbet Beta is closed.
Customers can make final withdrawal of funds via Exbet Support using the Contact form below.
With tens of millions of bets placed and millions of dollars in USDT staked and won, the Exbet Beta was a huge success. Our thanks to the thousands of you who took part.
The Exbet team is now focused on building the next generation of sports betting exchange. We look forward to sharing this with the world in 2024.

It means that they have been inactive for more than 4 months now. Although they say that they are going to comeback in 2024, but I think you can remove them from the list first. They may comeback next year but we do not know when, so it can be in the early 2024 or late 2024. Their bitcointalk account is also not active since June this year, maybe few weeks before the update on the main site.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: LuckySea on December 04, 2023, 12:15:12 PM
Big thanks for putting in the effort to compile all this information. It's incredibly helpful for anyone looking to get into gambling. Much appreciated!


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 04, 2023, 12:25:29 PM
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why you case was speedy.
Even though users have opposed not uploading documents but they have no option to withdraw funds and claim rewards which are given to users who have valid KYC documents. However, I don't know 500 casinos yet but 500 casinos have been added to the list on the main topic and they are very fast in the KYC verification process, so other top casinos should also do the same for service priority for users, don't make KYC verification difficult as they will tend to find another top casino that is friendly in service and quick to handle any problems.
Well, one thing that we must understand is that, every online gambling casino have their strengths and weaknesses, even if a big casino delayed in processing kyc verification request from their customers, know it that, there are other areas where such a casino is definitely better than the casino that processes kyc request faster for their customers, this difference could be in game odds, more winning ratio due to lower house edge and so on..

So in the end, if you abandon a good casino because they fail to process your document verification request fast, you will at the end of the day still find yourself back to the same casino because, there is something they have that can't be found on another casino.

And as for 500 casino, I know this casino even though I have never played there, I've seen their signature ad on this forum several times, and their administrator on this forum is quite active as well, its definitely a good casino, but like I said, I have never played there.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on December 04, 2023, 01:08:13 PM
I checked some casinos on the list and I found 1 casino that seems to be on "temporary closed", it is exbet. I got below message when I accessed this casino: ~snip~
Thanks for notifying me about this. I have removed Exbet from the list now. I'm not sure how I missed to check them out when I had rechecked the details of each casino during the update on the October month (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.msg62965091#msg62965091).


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on December 05, 2023, 08:21:00 AM
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why you case was speedy.
Even though users have opposed not uploading documents but they have no option to withdraw funds and claim rewards which are given to users who have valid KYC documents. However, I don't know 500 casinos yet but 500 casinos have been added to the list on the main topic and they are very fast in the KYC verification process, so other top casinos should also do the same for service priority for users, don't make KYC verification difficult as they will tend to find another top casino that is friendly in service and quick to handle any problems.
Well, one thing that we must understand is that, every online gambling casino have their strengths and weaknesses, even if a big casino delayed in processing kyc verification request from their customers, know it that, there are other areas where such a casino is definitely better than the casino that processes kyc request faster for their customers, this difference could be in game odds, more winning ratio due to lower house edge and so on..

So in the end, if you abandon a good casino because they fail to process your document verification request fast, you will at the end of the day still find yourself back to the same casino because, there is something they have that can't be found on another casino.

By the way, you touched on one of the rather important aspects of choosing a casino, namely the issue of identifying a new player through the KYC procedure.  There are indeed many nuances to this issue.  First of all, this is the volume of information provided, containing confidential personal data, such as, for example, photos of documents.  And also, for example, a photograph of a player’s face that was just taken, and so on.  And of course, an important issue is the timing of document verification by the casino.  Obviously, the long process of verification and identification irritates all players because the extra wait for access to games in this casino is real, no one needs it in life.  By the way, having once gone through this process,the player usually forgets about the time spent waiting, and if he likes the games at this casino, then he does not remember this unpleasant procedure at all.  And about how much time he spent entering this casino.  All this, in my opinion, was not done in the interests of the players, and now, with such rapid development of information technologies for recognizing and using AI, all these procedures will soon become obsolete and will not make any sense.  Identification will take place automatically anyway.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Dunamisx on December 05, 2023, 03:46:14 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.

There's nothing you would have done than to embrace the requirements for KYC as demanded from you, without having the chance of going through the KYC verification procedures, you may not be able to claim the winning prize and you may only have to use the money on playing bets on the platform, but as usual, everyone will like to make withdrawals whenever we had an exciting moments of winning a bet.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Bushdark on December 09, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
I checked some casinos on the list and I found 1 casino that seems to be on "temporary closed", it is exbet. I got below message when I accessed this casino:

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As of 18 July 2023, the Exbet Beta is closed.
Customers can make final withdrawal of funds via Exbet Support using the Contact form below.
With tens of millions of bets placed and millions of dollars in USDT staked and won, the Exbet Beta was a huge success. Our thanks to the thousands of you who took part.
The Exbet team is now focused on building the next generation of sports betting exchange. We look forward to sharing this with the world in 2024.

It means that they have been inactive for more than 4 months now. Although they say that they are going to comeback in 2024, but I think you can remove them from the list first. They may comeback next year but we do not know when, so it can be in the early 2024 or late 2024. Their bitcointalk account is also not active since June this year, maybe few weeks before the update on the main site.
It is better to remove them for now so that any gambler that see that can be aware that the casino is no more among the active casino one can use to gamble. This is a very good step for everyone of us here to keep tracking casinos and know about them so that it could alarm those people that have funds on the casino so that they can withdraw it as fast as possible. Crypto gambling is one of the easiest way to bet without much problem to consider like using fiat casinos that might be stress to deposit and withdrawal funds is the user is from another different region.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Dunamisx on December 09, 2023, 10:09:12 PM
I checked some casinos on the list and I found 1 casino that seems to be on "temporary closed", it is exbet. I got below message when I accessed this casino:

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As of 18 July 2023, the Exbet Beta is closed.
Customers can make final withdrawal of funds via Exbet Support using the Contact form below.
With tens of millions of bets placed and millions of dollars in USDT staked and won, the Exbet Beta was a huge success. Our thanks to the thousands of you who took part.
The Exbet team is now focused on building the next generation of sports betting exchange. We look forward to sharing this with the world in 2024.

It means that they have been inactive for more than 4 months now. Although they say that they are going to comeback in 2024, but I think you can remove them from the list first. They may comeback next year but we do not know when, so it can be in the early 2024 or late 2024. Their bitcointalk account is also not active since June this year, maybe few weeks before the update on the main site.
It is better to remove them for now so that any gambler that see that can be aware that the casino is no more among the active casino one can use to gamble. This is a very good step for everyone of us here to keep tracking casinos and know about them so that it could alarm those people that have funds on the casino so that they can withdraw it as fast as possible. Crypto gambling is one of the easiest way to bet without much problem to consider like using fiat casinos that might be stress to deposit and withdrawal funds is the user is from another different region.

In this case or situation at hand, we cannot conclude on what is the actual experience with them regarding their operations back, but it's really unfortunate that no one is available in attending to all their informations and request, which also means that we should be reminded of making the necessary research and also making deposit of the amount of money we can afford to loose into gambling sites.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on January 10, 2024, 07:12:24 AM
It probably makes sense to resume the discussion about what is needed by gamblers from all over the world, of whom there are not only hundreds of millions, but probably even a billion people.  I'm talking about a license that a casino receives and which guarantees and confirms the honest operation of this casino 24/7.  However, of course, there is a license from Curacao and a number of other countries provide some kind of licenses.  But I'm talking about a special type of gambling license from a casino that uses cryptocurrency for payments and never requires KYC verification from players.  Now, of course, it is difficult to imagine such a license; the global dictation of financial institutions in the USA and their regulators in all countries of the world has not yet ended.  But this will stop soon, I hope.  And such a license will be issued by some bold jurisdiction.  All this is due to the fact that anonymity in gambling is required by millions of players around the world and humanity should not ignore these requirements.  And it should be taken into account in the practice of its development in the future.  I think it would be right for such proposals from players to be heard as often as possible and to be actively discussed at the level of government in many countries.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Odusko on January 10, 2024, 09:07:21 AM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why your case was speedy.
Casinos may or may not really aim at scamming users and as a matter of truth/fact, KYC is regulatory compliance so for that, there is little to nothing that the casino may do about it, and anytime the casino asks for KYC verification from players, it means there is a need for that player to go through with such verification to place them in the better position and proven states that can handle whatever that comes along the way while the gambler uses the casino,  much more also the casino will have to follow up with that rules to make sure that, in all senses, there follow the government regulations by asking for KYC from their players who have reached such trance hold.
So for me, instead of putting all the blame on the casino for simply requesting for KYC documents from players, I think it better we should just pay close attention to why the KYC is there in the first place.
Although some casinos have a deliberate and fake KYC process and demands, and we already know those casinos that involve is such scams, just to steal players' money by not verifying the account and letting them withdraw from it at some point.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: summonerrk on January 10, 2024, 11:33:58 AM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why your case was speedy.
Casinos may or may not really aim at scamming users and as a matter of truth/fact, KYC is regulatory compliance so for that, there is little to nothing that the casino may do about it, and anytime the casino asks for KYC verification from players, it means there is a need for that player to go through with such verification to place them in the better position and proven states that can handle whatever that comes along the way while the gambler uses the casino,  much more also the casino will have to follow up with that rules to make sure that, in all senses, there follow the government regulations by asking for KYC from their players who have reached such trance hold.
So for me, instead of putting all the blame on the casino for simply requesting for KYC documents from players, I think it better we should just pay close attention to why the KYC is there in the first place.
Although some casinos have a deliberate and fake KYC process and demands, and we already know those casinos that involve is such scams, just to steal players' money by not verifying the account and letting them withdraw from it at some point.

Right. That's why a lot of players are aggressive about this procedure of passing documents. While it is possible to imagine yourself in the casino's place and understand that higher authorities require this regulatory procedure in order to establish a connection between users of their money that they deposit at the casino. And this is not at all a whim of the casino. It's just that without KYC, people engaged in illegal activities will easily "launder" their income through casinos - by entering and immediately withdrawing money from gambling sites' accounts. And the KYC allows you to stop such illegal actions.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: cafter on January 10, 2024, 12:07:02 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.

I also won on 500 casino but they don't told me to do KYC even after winning half amount of my deposit and withdrawn without any issue.
i think most people who complain like casino scammed them, most of the time they have their own fault.

Also bigger sites like stake, 500 casino. they verify our documents for KYC from third party sites like sumsub which 500 casino uses and it is quick. I think the system automatically scam the documents and selfie.
it's too quick I like this type of hassle free KYC.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Texac on January 10, 2024, 03:53:59 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why your case was speedy.

Casinos are not always scamming users.  First of all, there are some fake KYC located in this place.  This is regulatory compliance so for that, the casino can't do anything about it.
So instead of just putting all the blame on the casino first look at why KYC is there in the first place.
Surprisingly some casinos have deliberate and bogus KYC processes and requirements lately and these casinos are working to scam the players to steal their money or withhold the money under any excuse.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: summonerrk on January 11, 2024, 01:37:39 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why your case was speedy.

Casinos are not always scamming users.  First of all, there are some fake KYC located in this place.  This is regulatory compliance so for that, the casino can't do anything about it.
So instead of just putting all the blame on the casino first look at why KYC is there in the first place.
Surprisingly some casinos have deliberate and bogus KYC processes and requirements lately and these casinos are working to scam the players to steal their money or withhold the money under any excuse.

Yes, I understand, because we live in a time of big data and user data is valuable to hackers and unscrupulous users. Being their product.
And many services, including of course online casinos, are created precisely in order to steal documents from the user. That's why I always use only the local casinos, the ones that we provide here on the signature campaign forum. This removes the risk of being robbed.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Kavelj22 on February 03, 2024, 03:50:19 PM
  Choosing the right location for an online casino business is certainly one of the most important steps when planning to open an online casino. One of the most popular and respectable destinations is Malta, with online gambling being the fastest growing industry. When planning to establish a business within the EU, Malta is usually one of the first choices to consider. This is due to a number of benefits, such as favorable tax rates or no profit tax for players. Maltese online gambling license is considered to be highly reputable.



Malta Gaming Authority (MGA) is the responsible authority for regulating the licensing procedure, as well as for issuing licenses. The overall process of applying for and obtaining a license in Malta is not complicated. However, it is advisable to do this with the help of a local expert in this field who will be able to assist with every detail.

All my gambling experience was on sites I heard about here on the forum. It caught my attention when I visited most of these sites that they have activity licenses from Malta. Matt encouraged me to research the topic a little.

In Malta, obtaining a license for casino activity is considered an easy and simple matter, as the government provides many opportunities and benefits for companies wishing to establish a casino. Malta is considered one of the leading countries in the online gambling industry, due to a clear and organized legal system that makes it easy for companies to obtain the necessary licenses. It also has a developed infrastructure and a distinguished investment environment that attracts investors from all over the world.
Given these factors, it can be said that it is easy to obtain a license for a casino activity in Malta, which makes it an ideal destination for companies interested in this field.

It should be noted that the ease of obtaining a casino license is not a free process, because this license will allow the State of Malta to track the financial activities of the licensed company and deduct taxes according to the profits it achieves. Of course, taxes will increase as profits increase.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on February 08, 2024, 06:30:50 AM

Casinos are not always scamming users.  First of all, there are some fake KYC located in this place.  This is regulatory compliance so for that, the casino can't do anything about it.
So instead of just putting all the blame on the casino first look at why KYC is there in the first place.
Surprisingly some casinos have deliberate and bogus KYC processes and requirements lately and these casinos are working to scam the players to steal their money or withhold the money under any excuse.
The fact of the matter is that legislators in many countries, demanding from various services, including crypto casinos, the mandatory introduction of KYC, have themselves given rise to another type of fraud.  It lies in the fact that with the help of fictitious KYC, some casinos are naturally fraudulent, using the requirement for the player to undergo KYC according to some rather complex procedure, sometimes even such that the player simply cannot provide as many documents as this casino requires.  As a result, the money the player wins is not returned to him.  And since there is no point for a player to go to court if the lost amount is relatively small, then the casino, after some time, when this player stops playing in this casino and considers it fraudulent, the casino simply appropriates his money.  For this type of fraud, all players should thank those short-sighted officials who included this very KYC check into the legislation, even in cases where neither the player nor the casino needs it, and no one needs it at all.  But officials, out of their stupidity, created a separate fraud channel under the guise of “fictitious KYC.”  And now no one knows how to deal with this.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: EarnOnVictor on February 08, 2024, 04:25:46 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.
You have said it rightly it is KYC that casinos used to scammed gamblers as you said. Lolz finally you have submitted to their conditions and claim your prize and we thank God that they responded to you documentation very fast for you to claim the prize and move on. Because this is where they (casinos) use to withheld winning prizes by gamblers and ask them to fill forms and update data and upload documents and if the gambler could not provide any information there the prize will be forfeit or they close the account. And all those information were not asked at the beginning. There are good casinos but the bad ones are over shadowing them. Not that KYC is very bad but it is the casinos making look like a very bad something. And probably casino 500 have a very good responding system and that was why your case was speedy.
Casinos may or may not really aim at scamming users and as a matter of truth/fact, KYC is regulatory compliance so for that, there is little to nothing that the casino may do about it, and anytime the casino asks for KYC verification from players, it means there is a need for that player to go through with such verification to place them in the better position and proven states that can handle whatever that comes along the way while the gambler uses the casino,  much more also the casino will have to follow up with that rules to make sure that, in all senses, there follow the government regulations by asking for KYC from their players who have reached such trance hold.
So for me, instead of putting all the blame on the casino for simply requesting for KYC documents from players, I think it better we should just pay close attention to why the KYC is there in the first place.
Although some casinos have a deliberate and fake KYC process and demands, and we already know those casinos that involve is such scams, just to steal players' money by not verifying the account and letting them withdraw from it at some point.

Right. That's why a lot of players are aggressive about this procedure of passing documents. While it is possible to imagine yourself in the casino's place and understand that higher authorities require this regulatory procedure in order to establish a connection between users of their money that they deposit at the casino. And this is not at all a whim of the casino. It's just that without KYC, people engaged in illegal activities will easily "launder" their income through casinos - by entering and immediately withdrawing money from gambling sites' accounts. And the KYC allows you to stop such illegal actions.
Many will question the reason why KYC is being asked of them but they do not know that it is for the sanity of this world. Without KYC, just as it was before, a whole lot of freeness happened and people perpetrated evils due to this and it wasn't for the good of the world and even the company we are talking about. Take for example, this forum, a lot of people have alts but are hiding it, but if KYC is introduced, you will see that the level will reduce. The process may not be able to entirely curb it but will drastically reduce it because you might not be able to get the IDs of other people you can impersonate, and you will see a whole lot of accounts abandoned by those who opened them in this situation.

The same thing happened in the past when you only needed your information and email address to open a broker account and start trading. This is worse when the brokerage company is offering a promotion. Some people might open different emails to open 10 accounts and collect the bonuses in all of the 10 accounts, there was cheating everywhere. Though cheating can't be entirely eradicated since some people still have access to their friends/family details/IDs, but it will limit it to the barest minimum. This is even very important as some will not be able to impersonate others.

What I cited is however a different clue among many that KYC is helping to block aside from the legality of it as required by the authorities


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on February 08, 2024, 05:39:54 PM
Unnecessary long discussions aren't welcome in this thread
I'm not going to mention any forum members directly here, but please avoid making the unnecessary and long posts about the KYC story. Most of these long posts aren't adding any value here. A short and valuable post is welcome in this thread. The purpose of this thread is to give the gambling community an appropriate detail about the casinos license and KYC data. Don't take it personally and thank you for understanding.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on March 24, 2024, 06:54:07 PM
Update: I have rechecked the license information and KYC data of all the listed casinos. The table has been updated with the latest information which I have found during this process. Here are some major changes.

• Exbet has been removed from the list as the website is no longer accessible.
• MoneyPot has been removed as the website will shut down, and the game is disabled.
• Removed Punt.com from the list as they have completely changed the business model (from global casino to US only casino).
• Added two new casinos in the list, they are MetaWin and Wild.io.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: betswift on March 26, 2024, 12:45:55 PM
I saw somewhere that the MGA license in principle costs more than the license from Curacao. Does it mean that casinos with a Curacao license are less reliable than those with an MGA?
Or its ok just to know that the casino has a license (doestn't matter which one) and that is enough for a beginner?


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Mahdirakib on March 26, 2024, 06:25:22 PM
I saw somewhere that the MGA license in principle costs more than the license from Curacao. Does it mean that casinos with a Curacao license are less reliable than those with an MGA?
MGA gambling license is not only costly but also difficult to get. That's why all the crypto casino goes for Curacao gambling license instead of the complicated process to acquire the MGA gambling license. The reputation of a casino is more worthy than any license. For a new casino, a Malta licensed casino is more reliable than a Curacao licensed casino.

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Or its ok just to know that the casino has a license (doestn't matter which one) and that is enough for a beginner?
A new gambler should look into the reputation and dispute resolution strategy of a casino before choosing one. FYI, Malta Gaming Authority is more reliable for resolving the dispute than the Curacao Gaming authority.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: paxmao on March 26, 2024, 09:58:35 PM
Today I received a prize from winning a competition sponsored by 500 Casino. Even though I am against KYC in a crypto casino, I had no choice and had to go through it. Probably everyone knows how casinos don’t like a player with a profit trying to withdraw money, and they create difficulties in the way of this player so that he gives up and changes his mind about withdrawing the money or crypto he won. Nevertheless, I want to say that Casino 500 verified my documents incredibly quickly, literally within a minute I received the result, and all the document rejections were only due to my error. Therefore, for me, in addition to Roobet, another wonderful casino began to exist.

I also won on 500 casino but they don't told me to do KYC even after winning half amount of my deposit and withdrawn without any issue.
i think most people who complain like casino scammed them, most of the time they have their own fault.

Also bigger sites like stake, 500 casino. they verify our documents for KYC from third party sites like sumsub which 500 casino uses and it is quick. I think the system automatically scam the documents and selfie.
it's too quick I like this type of hassle free KYC.

It is a very bad practice and I think that sites that are using that strategy of KYC only in the customer wins and only if the customer wishes to withdraw and only when that happens are liable for legal claims from all fronts - from the client as this practice seems to be destined to deprive from earnings and the taxman, as the KYC is not required when loosing.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Poker Player on March 27, 2024, 05:12:55 AM
It is a very bad practice and I think that sites that are using that strategy of KYC only in the customer wins and only if the customer wishes to withdraw and only when that happens are liable for legal claims from all fronts - from the client as this practice seems to be destined to deprive from earnings and the taxman, as the KYC is not required when loosing.

The problem with that is that most crypto casinos, if they are licensed, are licensed in a country like Curaçao. Since the user generally does not live in Curaçao, he must have lost enough money so that it can be potentially profitable for him if he wins to hire a lawyer to file a lawsuit there. And then wait for the lawsuit to be resolved favorably, I do not know how justice works there but knowing how important casinos are for the economy of Curaçao I would not be surprised if the legislation and the courts tend to be more in favor of casinos.



Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 27, 2024, 05:26:59 AM
It is a very bad practice and I think that sites that are using that strategy of KYC only in the customer wins and only if the customer wishes to withdraw and only when that happens are liable for legal claims from all fronts - from the client as this practice seems to be destined to deprive from earnings and the taxman, as the KYC is not required when loosing.

The problem with that is that most crypto casinos, if they are licensed, are licensed in a country like Curaçao. Since the user generally does not live in Curaçao, he must have lost enough money so that it can be potentially profitable for him if he wins to hire a lawyer to file a lawsuit there. And then wait for the lawsuit to be resolved favorably, I do not know how justice works there but knowing how important casinos are for the economy of Curaçao I would not be surprised if the legislation and the courts tend to be more in favor of casinos.


The actual fact is that I think gamblers have gotten comfortable and are already used to this what seems like a tradition in terms of asking a gambler to submit his or her personal documents for kyc verification only when the gambler wins a good amount of money and request a withdrawal of the funds, or some of the funds.

Many gamblers have issues with kyc and this is what the casinos are already riding on to manipulate gamblers, gamblers don't have issues playing all day on a casino where they can freely deposit and play without being asked for account verification which requires them submitting their private and personal information, while on the other hand, some casinos are riding on this to manipulate gamblers as they usually will allow gamblers deposit, play and lose without them asking the gambler to pass kyc verification, but immediately the gambler wins a significant amount of money and places a withdrawal request, the casino hits back on the gambler with a mandatory account verification before his or her withdrawal will be processed, and this they do in a bid to see if the gambler will get angry, prefer to keep their personal information private, and thereby, forfeit their winning back to the casino since they won't be able to withdraw without going to the process of kyc.

To me though, this is a criminality in disguise, but I do not know how possible it is to sue a casino for such behavior, since they may still use what is written in their terms of service (can ask a user to pass kyc verification at any time and for whatever reason) to win the case.


Title: Re: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
Post by: delfastTions on April 04, 2024, 06:01:26 AM
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To me though, this is a criminality in disguise, but I do not know how possible it is to sue a casino for such behavior, since they may still use what is written in their terms of service (can ask a user to pass kyc verification at any time and for whatever reason) to win the case.
It is impossible to file a claim against such a casino in court simply because in this case the applicant, the plaintiff, will be forced to fully disclose his identity and everything related to his anonymity when playing in the casino automatically disappears.
 In addition, if we are talking about really large sums blocked by the casino due to the player’s failure to provide personal data for KYC, then I can’t imagine how such a player will be able to prove in court that in this case of games in casino the anonymous player is this particular person, the plaintiff, and not some other figurehead.  And it turns out that even in this case it is almost impossible to sue the casino for winnings. 
So it’s right that you regard the casino’s requirement to conduct an unexpected KYC when withdrawing won cryptocurrency as a hidden form of fraud on the part of the casino itself.