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January 15, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
Merited by Pmalek (1), decodx (1)
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They say that they can ask for KYC if they believe a player is underaged. How could a casino suspect that based on a player's betting pattern.
Another thing I found interesting about them is that they don't have a betting license, however, they do have certain restricted locations. I wonder why that is!?It is positive though that they will not confiscate your coins even if you refuse their KYC demands.
I'm also wondering how the system will suspect the underage users. Maybe they will observe the betting patterns. They may contact the user if they find it unusual than all other bettors. And it isn't so hard to determine an underage person by doing some conversation with them.
Probably they still have some restricted countries as they had license before. Some countries have strict laws against gambling. It could be a reason to keep the restrictions on some countries as well.

You didn't add any sources for Roobet and FreeBitco. Links are missing only for those two casinos.
Freebitco have the shortest list of terms among all gambling site. They have no single word about the KYC/identity/AML policy in their TOS. I found no information there which could be included in the post. About Roobet, they have mandatory level 1 KYC verification system. I didn't include any more info in their KYC requirements column as they have a mandatory verification system.

I believe Curacao eGaming has a license validator, but I'm not sure about the others. Perhaps you can post an example of a gambling site with no license verification here so the community can help.
The license validator logo is not available on some of the casino that you listed on the table. I don't want to mention specific casino on your list but there really is.
Almost every licensed casino have the validator link available at the bottom of the page. I found only 2 casinos from the current table who have license information available at the site without validator link. One of them is Betcoin.ag and the other one is CryptoGames. @Beparanf, it would have been more helpful if you had mentioned the names as well. I have sent a message to both casino email support for the details of license validator. Let's wait for the response of them.

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January 15, 2022, 01:36:34 PM
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The license validator logo is not available on some of the casino that you listed on the table. I already try it before that's why I comment on this. Some of the casino just display there license number instead of the license validator logo that you mention. I don't want to mention specific casino on your list but there really is. I just want to make sure all the license they are declaring is authentic since we are all anonymous here.

It is true. And since I don't mind mentioning a specific casino, I will give one example.

The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

Quote from: playbetr.com
Playbetr.com is licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V. through Global Limited Holding EOOD, License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. Casino games offered on Playbetr.com are provided and regulated by Gaming Services Provider, N.V., who are operating under the license 365/JAZ issued to CURACAO eGAMING by the Government of Curacao. Company registration number 10692 and corporate address 9 Abraham de Veerstraat.

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Betcoin.ag is licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. Casino games offered on Betcoin.ag are provided and regulated by Gaming Services Provider, N.V., who are operating under the license 365/JAZ issued to CURACAO eGAMING by the Government of Curacao. Company registration number 10692 and corporate address 9 Abraham de Veerstraat.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

are you guys linked to betcoin.ag in anyway?

Hello, we have the same software provider but most of the operations are different outside of this.  There have been some talks of some joint promotions in the future but we will certainly keep you posted.

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January 15, 2022, 04:31:47 PM
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The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

Hello, we have certainly never claimed that there is no connection. We have stated previously that both sites are part of the same network, however the operations are separate. Meaning Playbetr is run by a separate team, which has their own rules and ways of doing business. An example of this would be how LVMH brands has Louis Vuitton and Fendi under its umbrella, but they are completely separate companies, although some promotion may overlap.

Regarding the license badge, it is certainly valid and we will work with our development team to get the verification tool working as it should be. Thank you.

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January 15, 2022, 08:34:23 PM
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The casinos Betcoin.ag and Playbetr.com are reportedly licensed by Dutch Antilles Management N.V., License GLH-OCCHKTW0706262018. And they both have the same company registration number and corporate address.

But only playbetr.com has a link to a working license validator. I'm not sure if that means betcoin.ag is an unlicensed casino or what.

The weirdest part is that they claim to have no other connections except the same software provider.

Hello, we have certainly never claimed that there is no connection. We have stated previously that both sites are part of the same network, however the operations are separate. Meaning Playbetr is run by a separate team, which has their own rules and ways of doing business.

Okay, I appreciate you clarifying that. However, to be perfectly honest, I couldn't find such a statement in your post history. Although you didn't explicitly state there is no connection, but to a specific question like this example, I would say the message was ambiguous at best.

I think it would be smart to answer some people on the forum here. If you ignore everything, people will not think you are very professional.
Is it true that playbetr is from the same owner?

Hello, there has not been a single inquiry that has gone unanswered here. As we have stated before, Playbetr and many other sites share a similar software provider. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.

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As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

PS. Anyway the OP made nice job, thx.

It's not a requirement to deposit and play but these casinos listed will likely ask for KYC if they think your account is abusing like in the case of one complainant

But it is required when i plan to get my money back. Withdrawal is the most important part of gambling, as for me. I don`t remember problems with deposit anywhere.

As we see, all crypto casinos have a KYC procedure, except casinos without license(the same time it is enough dangerous to gamble in such casino as for me). The difference is just what you have to do. As i see - all casino get your personal data, so i don`t know for what purposes we use cryptocurrencies in such casinos. It doesn`t anonymize us.

You are bound by the rules and casino is bound to protect the integrity of their system and the only way casinos can do that is to do KYC on account that they think is a fraud or abusing their features, yes Cryptocurrency can help us anonymize our presence in casinos as long as you are following rules and the casino is compliant to regulators and reputable you are still safe.
Yes, it is so, they have rules and we decide to follow them or to look at other casino. But the main purpose of cryptocurrencies is anonymity and with KYC we lose it - does not matter what cryptocurrency and how do you use, if casino has your ID.

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Update: Added two more casinos in the table today. Removed * mark from CryptoGames casino as they have brought back the license validator link after notifying them about it. Included some details of Curacao gambling license. @Beparanf, now you should know that how to verify the license Wink. (There is another way to verify the license. Currently I'm observing the available method. I will try to update it in the near future.)

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
  • Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
  • Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
  • Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
  • Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)


Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.

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OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.

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OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.

As for Costa Rica, as far as I know, there is no such thing as a gambling license in this country. Apparently, when registering a company, it is enough to specify "gambling" as the purpose of the business and it is enough to be able to legally run a casino there.

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OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.

Although it will require a lot of effort and time it will benefit the community if the license issue is added to the list, it's also ok if the terms of service and information about the license issuer are also included but I leave it to OP if they take our suggestion but like all the others are saying
this is a great compilation and it will help the community to pick the right casino to play.

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I'm also wondering how the system will suspect the underage users. Maybe they will observe the betting patterns. They may contact the user if they find it unusual than all other bettors. And it isn't so hard to determine an underage person by doing some conversation with them.
Probably they still have some restricted countries as they had license before. Some countries have strict laws against gambling. It could be a reason to keep the restrictions on some countries as well.
From all of that, I am only concerned about underage users as underage users can easily access all websites without their parents knowing what they do. For example, the underage visit the casinos and finally, they think that the games are enjoyable. Their curiosity will be bigger than adult people's, so they search for more info about how they can play using real money (in this matter, they will try to have crypto). In the end, they really play using crypto.

The casino will not know who their user that playing many gambling games on their site. However, the casino can observe the betting patterns, that still difficult to determine their users. Even if the casino use KYC to know their users, that is still not easy to detect.

I am sure the casino can apply this for the restricted countries and already had blocklists from the country that can not access the site. Hopefully, parents can take these important jobs for their kids before it is too late to realize their kids have a gambling addiction.

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January 18, 2022, 03:20:21 PM
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OP this is a very good topic but maybe you should add exact License information for each casino, and I know that most of them are using one of Curacao licenses but some use different.
One example I know is BTC365 website that is using E-Gambling Montenegro gambling license, but there are others who use license from Costa Rica.
I haven't checked BTC365 yet. But all of the listed casinos are operating with Curacao gambling license (except Blackjack.fun). However, they are working on it and they said it will be available within this month. You will find that every casino is operating with one of those 4 master license providers of Curacao. I believe it isn't hard to find out the details as I have already added some information about the 4 master license operators in the post. But I will keep your suggestion if I find any popular crypto casino with other license providers without Curacao gambling providers.

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There is no way for a casino to prevent those underage players. Although, it will be possible if a casino makes the KYC (identity documents verification) requirements mandatory during sign-up.

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January 19, 2022, 01:35:11 AM
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There is no way for a casino to prevent those underage players. Although, it will be possible if a casino makes the KYC (identity documents verification) requirements mandatory during sign-up.
If that is the case, it can change the crypto casinos if they apply that and make many crypto gamblers not choose the casinos that use KYC during the sign-up. Hopefully, the casino will not apply that in registrations because crypto is about anonymous and we only want to play on the casino that is free from KYC for withdrawing for some amount. Many of us only use gambling as a fun thing.

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Many a times this kyc does not carry personal information and gamblers are harmed irresponsible financial service providers may lack data security and hacks can steal your personal data. Goals are more important than money for the effort and support to get a gambling license for business because earning money is automatically followed, just as we all have to earn which is why we are most helpful than many referral kyc.
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Update: Added three new casinos details in the list. They are Cloudbet, TwiceDice and OwlGames. I'm working to add more casinos in the list. But I'm getting confused with the available informations in some casinos. Moreover, I got strange response from some casinos support team when I asked for the details of gambling license and KYC policy.

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Update: Added three new casinos details in the list. They are Cloudbet, TwiceDice and OwlGames. I'm working to add more casinos in the list. But I'm getting confused with the available informations in some casinos. Moreover, I got strange response from some casinos support team when I asked for the details of gambling license and KYC policy.
Maybe they think you are part of some government regulators if you ask them many questions about that sensitive information Smiley
I like that you organized the list in alphabetical order but I would like to see more info for license number and link if possible.

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the kyc will always remain something that will continue to exist in the gambling world. It is that it is all crypto related gambling, but on cross-section bookmakers site I think there is already a kyc everywhere. Once you've passed the kyc, you should be fine. Unfortunately, there are also a number of sites that use kyc as an excuse to stretch payouts that way. I don't think that's the intention. Actually, there should be a clear policy for every gambling site with regard to the kyc, so for example always from a certain amount, just to name a few.

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Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.

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January 27, 2022, 11:29:36 AM
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Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.

I would agree with this. For me, as long as the site HAS an allowance or a need for KYC, then you should mark the casino as KYC needed, or "KYC will be needed in long term". I know it is unfair to some casinos who only ask for KYC in extreme circumstances compared to casinos who ask every withdrawal or every win, but for the benefit of the player, they should know what they are getting into and then maybe have a separate rating for KYC fairness?

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Kindly avoid making discussion whether you like the KYC process or not. This isn't a discussion topic.

At first crypto casino was well known for anonymous betting platform. But with the implementation of gambling license in crypto casino KYC has become a common thing now. However, KYC isn't mandatory for all of the users. You can still play at most of the crypto betting sites without verifying your identity. But a casino may ask you to verify your identity if they find it necessary. There are several reasons behind it

  • To Determine the Identity and Location: This is the most common reason for asking identity verification. Online casino doesn't allow underage gambling. You must need to be older than 18 years to place bets. Beside that, most of the casino has placed some country restrictions. Casino will ask for KYC verification if the system suspect any users for breaking those terms.
  • AML and Coin Mixing Policy: To prevent anti money laundering and coin mixing policy casino reserve the right to ask for KYC verification. Try to avoid suspicious activity and always complete the rollover/wagering requirements.
  • To Prevent the Abuses: Many bettors create multiple accounts to take the benefits of promotions. Few bettors use some illegal algorithm to win their bets. Crypto casino asks for KYC verification if the system detect any suspicious activity like this.
  • Some Other Factors: Identity verification is also required in case of bigger withdrawals. There could be few other reasons too which depends on the license provider and services of the casino.

- Casino with negative feedback (proven scam accusations) will not be added in the list.
- All of the information is collected from each casino T&C, KYC/AML policy page.
- Kindly inform me if you find any mistakes in the table.
- The list has been made in alphabetical order.

Casino Name|License|KYC Requirements|KYC details
Anonibet|No|No|N/A
BC.Game|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: photo of your Govt. approved ID card, driver's license and passport. Proof of address, Source of funds.
BetChain|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Betcoin|Yes *|Yes (If needed)|A selfie with a note to the casino, a phone call or verification of a player via live video call (Skype), copy of government Identification, passport, and recent utility or cable bill.
BetFury|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: a picture of passport, driver's license, or national ID card. Proof of address: picture of recent utility bill listing your name and address.
BetHash|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
BetJa|No|No|N/A
Betnomi|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: passport, ID card, driving license. Proof of address: utility bill or other possible methods. Source of funds.
Bitcasino|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s license.
Bitsler|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Level 1 KYC is mandatory to access the 3rd party providers slots game. They may request for Identity Documents, Proof of Address and a selfie with identity documents.
BlackJack|Yes *|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: government Issued ID, a selfie with the documents. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds: bank statement.
Bustabit|No|Uncommon|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Bustadice|No|Uncommon|Only age and country verification: Passport or Government ID.
Chips|Yes|Yes (If needed)|ID Verification: National ID Card, Passport, Drivers License. Proof of Address: Utility Bill. Source of Funds: Bank Statement, Tax Return.
CoinRoyale|No|Uncommon|Depends on the request of casino team.
Cloudbet|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: national ID, international passport. Proof of address: utility bill. Source of funds.
CryptoGames|Yes |Yes (If needed)|Identity Documents, Proof of Address and other required information (based on the request of casino team).
Duelbits|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents, Proof of Address
Exbet|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: passport, driver's licence or national ID card. Proof of address.
Fairspin|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: govt. ID, passport, driver's license. Proof of address.
Flush|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: government issued identity card, or passport, or driving license. Proof of Address. Source of funds.
FortuneJack|Yes|Yes (If needed)|It depends on the cases. Normally, valid certified ID verification with a selfie.
FreeBitco|No|No|N/A
Futuur|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: certified copies of identity cards. Proof of address. Source of funds: bank statements, photocopy of your credit cards.
Jacksclub|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Selfie video. Identity documents: Passport, driver's license or national ID card.
OneHash|Yes *|Yes (If needed)|Depends on the request of casino team.
OwlGames|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: passport, national ID Card. Proof of address: utility bills. Source of funds.
Paradice|No|Yes (If needed)|Depends on the request of casino team.
PlayBetr|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: birth certificate, driving licence, passport, signed credit agreement, citizen/national identity card. Source of funds: utility bill or bank statement.
Primedice|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rocketpot|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Rollbit|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents, Proof of Address, Source of funds.
Roobet|Yes|Yes|Level 1 KYC is mandatory. They may request for Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds verification process.
Sportsbet|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: National ID card, passport or driver’s licence. - Proof of address: Utility bill or Bank statement.
Stake|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Proof of Identity, Proof of Address & Source of Funds.
Tower|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents. User may need to complete further verification steps (based on the request of casino team)
TwiceDice|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: Passport, Driver’s license, National ID card, Residence card. Proof of address: Utility bill. Source of funds.
VIPGame|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents, Proof of address, Source of funds.
WinDice|No|Yes (If needed)|Depends on the request of casino team.
Winz|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: driver’s license, ID card, passport. Proof of address: utility bills with the name and address on it. Source of funds.
Wolf|Yes|Yes (If needed)|User need to provide necessary informations (based on the request of casino team).
500Casino|Yes|Yes (If needed)|Identity documents: National ID, Passport, Driver's license. Proof of address: utility bill & Source of funds.
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Note: The * mark casino have license information available at the site, but they don't have the license validator link available yet. Some of them are working on it.

• How to verify the license?
Currently there are 4 master license operators of Curacao gambling license providers.
  • Curacao E-gaming Cyberluck Curacao N.V. (1668/JAZ)
  • Curacao Interactive Licensing N.V. (CIL) (5536/JAZ)
  • Curacao Antillephone N.V. (8048/JAZ)
  • Curacao Gaming N.V. (365/JAZ)


Almost every casino has a validator link of their Curacao master license operators at the bottom of the webpage. Simply click on the logo to verify the gambling license of a casino. Few casino operates with other license providers. Those casino doesn't have license validator link available at their site.

Always check the Terms and conditions, KYC and AML policy of the casino to get more details about the KYC verification.

Other informative topics for bettors
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(Table) Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos
(LIST) Gambling sites with internal exchange
List Of Crypto Casinos with The Best Faucets

I would like to commend you for doing this informative table. This will be very helpful for those people who want to enter gambling and are still having a hard time to decide in picking which one they would choose to be their go-to. This thread is one of the topics that is needed and has to be n this forum because some are naive about it. As for suggestions, perhaps you could add another column that states whether what they do with all the data they have collected. It would be much appreciated if there would be a disclosement of how the private information from the KYC are going. If it is secured entirely from other platforms and are solely for the casinos record only, or is it being passed to other platforms such as online shopping sites, websites, and social media platforms. Because after all, the KYC process involves private information. It is also important to know what these casinos do to their clients records.
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January 27, 2022, 11:46:25 AM
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Just stumbled onto this thread and I like the manner in which KYC requirements have been specified for each crypto gambling site individually even though I am aware of most of them.

The key point here is 'KYC if needed'. Some of these sites enforce KYC stating various reasons and it becomes difficult to tell whether they are lying or not.

Whatever the case, most gamblers end up submitting their KYC in order to access their funds since there is no other proper alternative. Silver lining here is that some of these sites never cheat their customers using KYC as an excuse.

I would agree with this. For me, as long as the site HAS an allowance or a need for KYC, then you should mark the casino as KYC needed, or "KYC will be needed in long term". I know it is unfair to some casinos who only ask for KYC in extreme circumstances compared to casinos who ask every withdrawal or every win, but for the benefit of the player, they should know what they are getting into and then maybe have a separate rating for KYC fairness?
I remember with nostalgia those times when no one thought about any KYC, much less demanded it, even if you need to take $100-150... in your wallet.
Now everything has changed, and the worst thing is that this KYC is required in different ways, up to the video image of the face.
But it is known that all personal data bases are constantly leaking somewhere, they are hacked or simply sold, and all this data of yours may well be widely available, including to criminals and various scammers.
And using your stolen personal video data, scammers can create you virtual in the metaverse and then do all sorts of bad things on your behalf.
That's where I see the danger of these fucking and endless KYC.

And so, - in general, OP created an excellent topic!
The first post is above the best praise!

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