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Title: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rruchi man on June 18, 2022, 06:31:38 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Silberman on June 18, 2022, 08:44:55 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Without a doubt you can still make money when the markets are going down as you can short the market and make money that way, however back then when I dedicated a great deal of my time to study the markets I realized the potential profits you can get when shorting the market are very disappointing compared to what you can get when the market is going up, so while you can still obtain profits I do not consider it is worth it, now this may change if you use leverage, but then the risk taken will be very high and that is unacceptable to me.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Johnyz on June 18, 2022, 09:13:00 PM
Experienced trader will always find a way to make money on every trend, this is why knowledge is very important because it can give you so much confidence that can generate money for you. There’s always a buyer and seller in this market and that’s why trader will always have the opportunity to make money. Short term trader are more active during this volatile trend, this is a great opportunity for them.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on June 18, 2022, 09:32:50 PM
A real trader will keep doing a trade despite the market situation. But for us casual traders will choose not to continue due to the higher risk and inevitable losses that we possibly get. Honestly, there is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season it is just how these expert traders see it. Of course, they find out nothing, they have no reason also to continue trading but fortunately, they have and their life goes on while the others are quitting and holding. Things that we don't need to dig more, that were their secret and they never tell it.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 18, 2022, 09:50:40 PM
~snip~
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
^Yes, your friend is correct.
You can apply different strategies per every season that comes even if that is bull market or bear market you can apply any strategy. Remember that strategy is only a tool that you can use to predict the market price.
For now since the market has declined massively, you can do spot trading which is moat likely traders use when bear market comes.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: palle11 on June 18, 2022, 09:54:53 PM
Trading is a two way thing so at a point the market will be selling at another point it will buy maybe for short time depending on the trend and so now is bear and if you are able to catch a sell then you can ride it all through, this is the aspect that a trader can make very good profit. The difference between the trends is that at a point, the market will sell for a long time and at another time it will buy short which is the correction of a bear time. For traders you can make profit even in bear season.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TimeTeller on June 18, 2022, 10:26:37 PM
A real trader will keep doing a trade despite the market situation. But for us casual traders will choose not to continue due to the higher risk and inevitable losses that we possibly get. Honestly, there is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season it is just how these expert traders see it. Of course, they find out nothing, they have no reason also to continue trading but fortunately, they have and their life goes on while the others are quitting and holding. Things that we don't need to dig more, that were their secret and they never tell it.

If you know how to strategize to get your profits, bear or bull market, it doesn't really matter to you.
Because the up and down movement, will give you the chance to make profits.
The simple rule of trading - buy low, sell high, is your guide here. But not all know how to implement this strategy.
Traders know where to attack the market. They won't wait for bull season to get their hands on the market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Cryptoababe on June 18, 2022, 10:41:15 PM
For me, Real Traders cares about both markets because at times, Real traders expect bottom to be where bottom isn't suppose to be and it affects there trade. Also vise versa.
So. Even real Traders can be fooled with any kind of market.
Be it Bear or Bull


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: BitMaxz on June 18, 2022, 11:47:04 PM
Day trading is not easy you need to wait for an opportunity to buy at a low price and sell a little profit when the price rises a bit.
Just like like today as sample image below.

https://i.imgur.com/ux4H2Js.png

If you bought BTC at around $17k and then sold it at around $19k you already made around 9% to 10% but the problem it is not worth it if you only have a small investment in trading you can only notice your profit if you have big amount of funds in your portfolio. And you should be ready for the price drop and set a stop limit before you lose more profit.

The only difference between a bear and bull market is that you can only get a small profit in a bear market unlike in a bull market you can make more profit and you do not worry about price drops because you HODL and wait for another price rise to cover loses.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: blue Snow on June 19, 2022, 02:48:38 AM
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
I'm not sure he not lying because the price today is very unsafe for trading. I know out there has a professional trader who can make money in dip but it's not much because we know playing short is very dangerous, The trader must know the moving of the chart and can guess exactly when he makes deciding in a second. I have friends still trading today by playing arbitrate and he still gets profit even though is not much of a bullish market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 19, 2022, 03:15:01 AM
(....)
"Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive"
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Correct for me, I know some traders who can prove this, I am updated on their trading life during the bear market and bull markets.
Some also are owning when the bear market, while some others in the bull market.

It doesn't mean once it is a bear market, you cannot make profits, there are short positions or long positions with leverage that can help you.

If you are just a spot trader and long position trader, then bear market is not suit for you.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: newdevices on June 19, 2022, 05:05:26 AM
-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
I'm not sure he not lying because the price today is very unsafe for trading. I know out there has a professional trader who can make money in dip but it's not much because we know playing short is very dangerous, The trader must know the moving of the chart and can guess exactly when he makes deciding in a second. I have friends still trading today by playing arbitrate and he still gets profit even though is not much of a bullish market.

Indeed, not all traders can make a profit in times of market conditions like this,
difficult and very risky, of course, besides that the decisions we make will greatly affect the trading results,
your friends are certainly already proficient in conditions like this and it takes a lot of experience


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Adbitco on June 19, 2022, 07:58:20 AM
I can say is only a skillful trader can make out something from this market, few days ago I tried to know if I can do it but sincerely I was drastically drained up is not easy to cope up with bear all I can do is just to buy at dip maybe after it's recovery I make back my profits which I have lost while trading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: globalpain on June 19, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
I can say is only a skillful trader can make out something from this market, few days ago I tried to know if I can do it but sincerely I was drastically drained up is not easy to cope up with bear all I can do is just to buy at dip maybe after it's recovery I make back my profits which I have lost while trading.
It seems that is indeed what we can do in this bear market condition,
moreover Bitcoin is currently down to the price of $18k and we must take advantage of this moment by buying it gradually,
it's only a matter of time to see Bitcoin recover so no need to worry


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Mr.right85 on June 19, 2022, 11:03:09 AM
Let's say, supposing traders where to pay more concern to the bearish market session and stop trading, what would then become of the market?

Not like I expect you to answer that but, trading is meant to go both sessions and I don't think traders stops trading during the bearish market sessions. The bearish market has its own opportunities too and those with the know how, knows just how to exploit it.

Although you can tell that its always very difficult to continue trading in this season, given the kind of emotion that develops and one has to be really careful of the position one choses with the direction or the market not being clear at any point.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: hugeblack on June 19, 2022, 12:19:18 PM
Trade makes a profit with fluctuation. For example, with a bearish market situation, you can make a good profit if you sold Bitcoin about 3 months ago at a price of 48k and bought today at a price of 18k. The same scenario applies to me a month ago when the price was about 30k.

The golden rule is to set a clear vision and plan that is formulated in a strategy and who solves it does not matter how the market moves, but how to make a profit with this strategy, which is something that requires experience and skill, which may not be in the interest of most traders.

In general, trading requires intelligence and skill, and the more experience you have, the more you can earn.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: GatotKaca on June 19, 2022, 12:49:03 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?

I'm still trading myself. I just changed my spot trading to futures trading. in any market conditions, we can still benefit from futures trading. maybe that's what your trading friends do too.

but to be honest it is indeed risky. it would be safer to monitor the market first before finally deciding to enter again or have to wait for a better moment.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TheUltraElite on June 19, 2022, 01:11:44 PM
I think a fine point remains that pro traders treat these as just numbers and deal with it that way. Instead of having to think over it, they rather trade based on the numbers and not with the emotions.

For them a bear market is a time to buy and spend the liquid cash for the investment, while the bull market is the time to sell and cover a profit to get back the liquid cash and the difference.

I have myself seen that keeping this mentality saves you from a lot of trouble of anxiety that happens with the market and it makes you a more efficient trader able to take decisions that dont nag you in the course of the market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: stadus on June 19, 2022, 01:42:17 PM
He is absolutely correct, despite the market being already in bearish mode, the volatility is still present, so we can still trade and make a profit if we are good at predicting the price movement. These kinds of people who are profitable regardless of the market situation are skillful traders, they learn from their experience and they always see an opportunity in any market situation.

Learn from your friend, he knows what he is doing because he is confident he will still succeed.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: breathlessz on June 19, 2022, 02:56:13 PM
whether or not a trader is right or not doing trading activities during a bull market, I think it depends on the trader himself. What I experienced, of course, is that the market has a trend on a certain time frame. for example, if we use H4, the trend will be seen there, so we can trade on the time frame below it, such as H1, and we will find a support area to buy, and of course this must be tight with a real target on H1, so on the market movement of course there will be price corrections, and price bounces that can be exploited


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: |MINER| on June 19, 2022, 03:07:46 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?
I my opinion of course , I did not find any wrong things in the words of the trader. At this time you will find two types of traders-
-There will  a long term traders who is using this dip to trade and hold.I think this is the best time for them
-On the other hand, short-term traders are doing day trading by analyzing the candles
Quote
-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Yes , if I say about me , I am doing short-term trading. And my strategy is-
-Don't be  greedy.
-Control in Emotions.
-And also it cannot be assumed that every day will be profitable


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Nrcewker on June 19, 2022, 04:05:07 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe.

This only proves that the trader has enough money and he can afford to lose.
Many of the traders, who actually care for their money are playing safe in this bear market.
Entire market is red due to Bitcoin’s current price.
I will also advise all the fellow traders to avoid trading as much as they can.
Only Bitcoins are the real hope at this point.
There is great chances that Bitcoins will overcome the bear market soon.
So it would be wise to invest in Bitcoins and wait for results.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Hamphser on June 19, 2022, 04:53:43 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Scalpers
Day traders
Long term holders

Are the type or kind of traders who doesn't really care about market condition.Why? Because they could make money on whatever movements or direction on the market that's why it's not really that much of a concern and that's why they don't easily panic but of course being one of these types isn't something that everybody could achieve.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: yhiaali3 on June 19, 2022, 05:02:29 PM
I think his saying is somewhat true, a successful trader is still able to trade even in a bear market, but this is not easy and needs strong experience and a good strategy, for me the best strategy in a bear market is to trade with only part of the capital and keep the rest a stable coin like USDT , where you buy a coin for $1,000, for example, and sell it when its price goes up a little, and you repeat this process several times a day depending on the market's fluctuation, at the end of the day you convert all your assets into USDT and so on. The next day, the same process was repeated.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: virasisog on June 19, 2022, 05:06:14 PM
Experienced or professional traders already know how to make money and deal with every market situation. The volatility of the market will always be an opportunity for them to earn especially day traders. They're skilled enough to trade regardless of the market season because they have the strategies and they know how to do technical analysis. Trading is too broad and if we will explore it more, we'll be able to see more opportunities on how to gain profit from it.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: _BlackStar on June 19, 2022, 05:43:58 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?
To answer your question, I think it's true mainly because they are able to maximize their trading strategy to make a profit. Usually scalping will be very useful to them during market corrections because there are definitely some good opportunities for profit when traders try to maintain price support. The rapid movement of prices makes them profitable even though the amount really depends on how much capital they have.

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
I'm not, I'm just sure about long term investments. It's much safer for me to do than trading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: WeedGoW on June 19, 2022, 08:03:20 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
He's correct but only if he counts future trading as trade activity. If not, I don't see what the big deal about 'real traders' here when the market is in bearish season, most traders get fucked. You've to be quite fearless, fool even to trade actively at this season.
Yes, plenty of traders in this time make profits from future trading, short and long the market if he counts future trading, of course.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sayaya17 on June 19, 2022, 09:00:23 PM

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
I'm not, I'm just sure about long term investments. It's much safer for me to do than trading.

Although I have been in the crypto world for a long time, but because I am not a professional trader, so during a bear market I do not dare to trade.
I like you prefer long term investment in Bitcoin, which the percentage to make a profit is much larger and has a lower risk. I'm one of those people
who prefer to play it safe than take too big a risk. Moreover, the market seems to be getting worse after Bitcoin fell below $20k, so for me it is
the best option to hold Bitcoin until the market recovers. And if I have extra money, I will buy more Bitcoin, because the current Bitcoin price is very low.
So accumulating Bitcoin is very good to do in bear market conditions.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rufsilf on June 19, 2022, 10:30:37 PM
He is absolutely correct, despite the market being already in bearish mode, the volatility is still present, so we can still trade and make a profit if we are good at predicting the price movement. These kinds of people who are profitable regardless of the market situation are skillful traders, they learn from their experience and they always see an opportunity in any market situation.

An experienced trader will choose not to stop as a $500-$1,000 increment is already a profit for them. These traders are greedy enough to think about earning more but having just a few bucks is good enough at this bear season as the most important is that they got some rather that wasting their time on nothing not productive. Just to say that despite the market situation whether it was a bear marker or bullish season, many traders are still working knowing that they still have the opportunity.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 19, 2022, 11:12:52 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?
Each trader has his own strategy and principle, nothing wrong with a trader who cares about the bearish and bullish. I'm also a part of traders who care about them, I will determine my strategy according to the current trend in the market. Also, I will choose coins to trade that suit the current situation, uptrend or downtrend. For example, during the latest big dump, it will be quite safe to choose BTCDOWN, ETHDOWN, or the like. But when there is an uptrend, choose common coins. Just analyze which coins that have a bigger possibility to increase their values.

Source:
- https://www.tokocrypto.com/trade/BTCDOWN_USDT
- https://www.tokocrypto.com/trade/ETHDOWN_USDT

*I don't promote the exchange, I'm not a part of the team  :D

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
I don't really actively trade during this bearish. I am busier to consider which coins to buy for a long-term holding.
I prefer to prepare my investment than trade.  :D



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Wakate on June 19, 2022, 11:20:45 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
A trader is not bordered whether the market is bear or bull, all depends on their strategy and how they see the market. Everyone has different method to which they understand the market. The market may look bearish a trader and look like a big opportunity to another trader. Traders doesn't always have the same perspectives most time because everyone read different meanings to the market which makes it looks technical.

Trading has different strategies imbedded in it and what looks right to a particular trader may look weak to the next one. Some traders may prefer price action analysis while others may choose indicator strategies. What works for you in trading may not work for another person.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Lubcub62 on June 20, 2022, 12:19:57 AM
day traders of course they will continue to trade in any market situation. because they do not keep any coins for the long term so they have limited profit and loss limits taken. so that their mentality is already trained. stop loss and take profit on the same day is good for them. for making money for their daily needs.

but for the long term. many also do not leave the market. they use DCA techniques and strategies. they will buy incrementally at the specified support at regular intervals. and indeed in this way the mental is also awake.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Ziskinberg on June 20, 2022, 10:33:57 AM
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-Do you consider this trader correct?
Apparently yes, they'll do what they think is right and beneficial to them.
Real traders are not holders and they remain in the trading world in any market condition as they'll know even during the bear season there is still a way to make a profit as they use to take advantage of the market volatility. Though is it somewhat risky, however, I think this won't really matter with them as to every change in the market price gives them a chance to earn some.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Eternad on June 20, 2022, 10:41:31 AM
day traders of course they will continue to trade in any market situation. because they do not keep any coins for the long term so they have limited profit and loss limits taken. so that their mentality is already trained. stop loss and take profit on the same day is good for them. for making money for their daily needs.

but for the long term. many also do not leave the market. they use DCA techniques and strategies. they will buy incrementally at the specified support at regular intervals. and indeed in this way the mental is also awake.

Exactly, There are different type of traders and some of them preferred the short term low profit because it's less risky compared to long term holders because they can early exit regardless of loss and profit which they can always avoid big loss when there is a bearish trend while it's  still ok if they missed the big profit opportunity. Consistency is the key for day traders to make there trade successful. I know some of them that doing it wrong and using futures to to have more capital which always result to higher risk of losing.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: LastKiss on June 20, 2022, 10:45:01 AM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

Well I'm not trading when the market in this condition, but maybe for some people who are really the expert in trading still can make a lot of money when the bear market happens. I've heard that a guy who loses more than 50% recovers even if the market is in bear condition. Profit is not coming from bull or bear season but when you have a good strategy and your strategy is on point then profit will come to you.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on June 20, 2022, 01:19:45 PM
Traders are interested in the market at the moment when it brings money. Therefore, to think that traders will not pay attention to this is not entirely correct, as for me.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: el kaka22 on June 20, 2022, 04:44:59 PM
Unlike some people suggest that traders do not make profits with few months of waiting, that makes no sense to them. They buy and sell daily, multiple times in a day, which means that even a 100 dollar increase is a profit maker for them, or if it is going to just go down then shorting. This has been done by many many people so far, it is a risky business and you may lose a lot of money but in the end you are going to end up with a bit of a profit if you learn how to trade and that's all that matters to them.

If you buy at 20,000 for example and sell at 20,500 then you made a good chunk of profit, and if you do that twice or three times a day then you made a good income for yourself as well.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: _BlackStar on June 20, 2022, 04:52:04 PM
Although I have been in the crypto world for a long time, but because I am not a professional trader, so during a bear market I do not dare to trade.
As long as you are comfortable and know what to do in a bear market, then you are a pro, but you may not be an expert when it comes to taking profits.

Moreover, the market seems to be getting worse after Bitcoin fell below $20k,
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if I have extra money, I will buy more Bitcoin, because the current Bitcoin price is very low.
It seems like the two sentences above are completely contradictory, you think the market is getting worse but you want to buy if you have extra money. If you realize that buying on a dip is good, then you have to say that the current market conditions are quite good because it has given you the opportunity to buy a number of assets at a low price and it will be in your favor if a recovery occurs.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Alisha-k on June 20, 2022, 05:17:59 PM
-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Trading operate in two set of rule buy low and sell high and sell high so as to buy low again. But it is obvious traders in this era only operate with buy low and sell high and forget price can choose to take the other side of the trend to sell with the good high. My Strategy is knowing the trend and knowing where to join the trend. Just like in the current bear i wait for good price resistance zone to keep selling. If i must buy then i scalp and keep my profit below $10


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 20, 2022, 07:07:06 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?
Sincerely, i think everyone cares, every bear market affects both the so called real traders and hodlers alike, the only difference i see here is that professional traders already have enough knowledge and all that is required to keep trading and making money, though the amount of money which can be made during a bear market can never be as much as money made when the market is good.
And another thing is that professional traders also know how to use the condition of the market to their own advantage, that is, whether the market is going up or down, traders who trade futures can always make money from both sides, i guess this is what this trader in your conversation is doing, longing and shorting the market which ever way it goes.
From my own personal perspective, conclusion is that bear market affects everyone, both traders and holders, but some traders who already have enough knowledge also know how to make a bear market work in their favor. 


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: justdimin on June 21, 2022, 03:26:19 PM
Well I'm not trading when the market in this condition, but maybe for some people who are really the expert in trading still can make a lot of money when the bear market happens. I've heard that a guy who loses more than 50% recovers even if the market is in bear condition. Profit is not coming from bull or bear season but when you have a good strategy and your strategy is on point then profit will come to you.
That is the general population, you can see that from the volume as well, because it is not traded nearly as much as it used to be. That means that we are talking about a market where most people are trying to stay away from as much as they possibly can. This isn't going to change in a single day, but it will certainly be something that will last a while. People like you and me and many others will stay away from trading until it is a bit better.

I still do investments, but that is different from trading, I buy and hold but I do not buy and sell right away, I am waiting for it to go towards 100k before I can even consider selling it, that is still valid for me.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: doomloop on June 21, 2022, 03:47:25 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Of course yes a true/real trader cares about the bull and bear as they can use it to their own advantage like when it's bear they will mostly buy but in bulls they will mostly sell. On the market these days, the price still continues to move. It is still fluctuating so traders can still use this window of opportunity to trade and make some profits.

Those who stop are maybe too stressed out seeing this kind of market so they take a break for good. They can be composed of real and fake traders. As far as I know the phrase "playing it safe" doesn't totally mean that we will stop doing an act but it just means that we will continue doing the act but we must be extra careful this time.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: abel1337 on June 21, 2022, 07:13:47 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Kelvinid on June 21, 2022, 10:13:54 PM
In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.
That is why I really appreciate how these traders worked despite the market situation and that is to say that trading is not an easy job. But somehow, these traders had made their way to survive from the hard situation making just a few bucks every day (or sometimes losing). But I guess they never complain about it but rather make themselves adapt to every situation and still be consistent with their doings. Real traders will never quit as long as there is a chance, that's their mindset.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rengga Jati on June 21, 2022, 10:33:20 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?
In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with what he said.
A trader, moreover day traders, will always trade every day in order to take profits by utilizing every up and down price of the coins that they are trading. That is why they need certain analyses of the charts and indicators. I know that it may not be all of them, but most traders may do the same.
Many traders also trade in the future market or with leverage, so they can utilize the up and down by positioning Long or Short position.
This is coruse, not easy, very risky, yes exactly. But, this is what a trader commonly does in order to take profits and earn money in every condition. For, not all people are able to do long-term holding. Some prefer to trade daily to earn profits.
is there any guarantee to always make a profit?
of course not.
But, commonly a trader will know what to do when to do it, and how the ways to make higher profits than its losses. In one day, a trader may experience both losses and profits. This is very common to them.
However, if we are not good traders, newbies, or not ready with the market changes, it is better to play safe and do what we are able to do.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Strongkored on June 22, 2022, 03:40:02 AM
-Do you consider this trader correct?
maybe he is right, because of course he already has a strategy that can be implemented in any market conditions, because keep in mind that cycles like this almost always occur in the crypto market and if traders are careful in observing the market it is very possible for traders to keep trading because it can be seen from trading volume in crypto that remains high means there are still traders who trade even though the market is bearish, but maybe the result bit difference.

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Long term is my strategy, so not active like day traders


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Kimonoe on June 22, 2022, 04:47:15 AM
In reality, Traders always make fortune during bullish market and making their survival on a bearish market. This is the reason why I think traders care about the market situation. Traders could still profit even we are in a bear market. Remember that traders always follow market trends, This way traders can enrich their winning chance on their trades. There are many trading techniques that can make traders win on a bear season like this. I still like doing scalping, It still makes me profitable even on this kind of market season we have.
That is why I really appreciate how these traders worked despite the market situation and that is to say that trading is not an easy job. But somehow, these traders had made their way to survive from the hard situation making just a few bucks every day (or sometimes losing). But I guess they never complain about it but rather make themselves adapt to every situation and still be consistent with their doings. Real traders will never quit as long as there is a chance, that's their mindset.
The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: AakZaki on June 22, 2022, 05:03:24 AM
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Those who stop are maybe too stressed out seeing this kind of market so they take a break for good. They can be composed of real and fake traders. As far as I know the phrase "playing it safe" doesn't totally mean that we will stop doing an act but it just means that we will continue doing the act but we must be extra careful this time.
Safe means adjusting the state of the market at that time. All traders certainly take advantage of the bull or bear.' That's for sure, they're taking advantage of that market movement. If there wasn't that from where would they benefit?
This instability is what allows traders to enter or leave the market. So they should really care about price increases or decreases. Because basically all traders have the goal of making a profit. I think there are no traders who just buy continuously, they are certainly waiting for when is the right time to buy and sell. All of that is adjusted when the market is bull or bear.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rozak on June 22, 2022, 05:57:34 AM
The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit
such a skill only merchants with great courage dared to do. Trading in a bear market is very risky. because no one knows the short-term potential of the asset being traded.

if trading in such a manner is done by a reckless novice trading in bear season, it will surely trap him in a trade that will even force the trader to cut loss.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: noorman0 on June 22, 2022, 05:58:12 AM
I'm sure the trader you meet are active in the spot market, and that's only natural because they only benefit from uptrend prices. Especially if their analysis says that the bearih will last long enough.

But if he is active on leveraged trading, any market situation will not stop him just for the reason that it is hard to make a profit.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on June 22, 2022, 07:31:31 AM
The bear market is a major trend for now, but that doesn't mean we don't have the opportunity to buy, we can take advantage of a bounce or correction in an area that has been determined by a trader, so that we can make a profit, but for that we can't be separated from practice and experience in trading. read the future direction of the market. therefore in any season there is actually a chance to make a profit
such a skill only merchants with great courage dared to do. Trading in a bear market is very risky. because no one knows the short-term potential of the asset being traded.

if trading in such a manner is done by a reckless novice trading in bear season, it will surely trap him in a trade that will even force the trader to cut loss.
It would be very risky indeed for newbie traders to trade but that doesn't mean they can't do anything,
at a time when this bear market might be a good time to learn and understand more about the crypto market,
other than that it's better to take advantage of this moment to buy coins and hold them until the market is bull


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rockstarguy on June 22, 2022, 09:05:53 AM
Their is no particular time for trading,  trading can be done at any time whether the market is bearish or bullish and profit can still be made . Trading when the market is bearish can be complicated to some beginners who are not good enough. A trader who is well experienced can trade even in the bearish season and make better profit. Trading during the bearish season is all about having good trading skill and having some trading experience.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Flexystar on June 22, 2022, 10:15:34 AM
As matter of fact one should definitely care about the market status which are either bearish or bullish. That’s what makes up the whole trade cycle. Bear means heavy selling but at the same time someone buying to fulfil that cheap trade while on the other hand someone is still buying when the whole market is in bullish and costly.

If we don’t track all these happenings then there is no way we are able to safely enter into the market at all. Markets reacts to traders and traders react to market. That’s the simplest explanation for this question.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: ven7net on June 22, 2022, 10:28:25 AM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Questat on June 22, 2022, 02:29:22 PM
snip~

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.
Of course, they put their money at risk doing trading as they see a bigger chance to make a profit from it. Traders will remain in trading as it was their life. They'll somehow start their own business or even get employed but they choose a life like this because they are comfortable and much more familiar. Of course, I'll do the same if that happens to me and I choose the life that makes me happy despite the losses and hard times.

And besides, not all are meant to trade and yes, real traders are somewhat special having such kind of attitude and skills.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: wxa7115 on June 22, 2022, 04:53:53 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.
While I agree that traders can do their jobs whether the market is going up or down, at the same time I think there are market conditions which should not be traded and it is better to stay on the sidelines during that period.

As an analogy think about driving a car, cars are now very versatile and they can move at many different terrains and in many different weather conditions, and yet there are terrains and weather conditions in which driving is very dangerous and if possible we should avoid it, and I think the markets are similar, as the risk you are taking is too high compared to the profits you can get if you trade under some conditions which very adverse to trading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Hamphser on June 22, 2022, 05:13:34 PM
Their is no particular time for trading,  trading can be done at any time whether the market is bearish or bullish and profit can still be made . Trading when the market is bearish can be complicated to some beginners who are not good enough. A trader who is well experienced can trade even in the bearish season and make better profit. Trading during the bearish season is all about having good trading skill and having some trading experience.
If you are a trader then you should really be that versatile on whatever market conditions that you might able to experience on but we know that there different types of traders which means that there's a specific event or market condition on which a specific trading method do works and do not that's why we do really see different outcomes on different decisions that had been made which is situational.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Leebabe on June 22, 2022, 05:27:15 PM
This are very critical and important seasons in the crypto world. They are both opportunities in their own way so every trader, be it experienced or newbie much pay attention to which season is present at all times. This would enable them to strategize properly to make more profits and avoid too much loss because profit and loss is part of the market


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: suzanne5223 on June 22, 2022, 10:37:06 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.
While I agree that traders can do their jobs whether the market is going up or down, at the same time I think there are market conditions which should not be traded and it is better to stay on the sidelines during that period.

As an analogy think about driving a car, cars are now very versatile and they can move at many different terrains and in many different weather conditions, and yet there are terrains and weather conditions in which driving is very dangerous and if possible we should avoid it, and I think the markets are similar, as the risk you are taking is too high compared to the profits you can get if you trade under some conditions which very adverse to trading.
Agreed with that crypto trader which says real traders don't quit because they always understand how to go with the market.
However, that does mean traders that quit trading in this bear market don't have confidence in their abilities as ven7net stated because it's called knowing your limit and I once write from someone on this forum who make a statement that consciousness is not foolishness.

What I understand you guys to understand is that crypto traders do care about bear and bull markets because what they want is profit. Meanwhile, what most traders do in this current market is long or make use of bots.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: blockman on June 22, 2022, 11:00:43 PM
Day traders or not, we all end up being a trader but I agree with what he said that there's always the opportunity whether the market is bearish or bulls.
I think it's just all about pride in what he said when he mentioned "real traders". And there's nothing wrong calling all of those brave traders to be real and have been trading no matter what the season is.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Natalim on June 22, 2022, 11:14:44 PM
Day traders or not, we all end up being a trader but I agree with what he said that there's always the opportunity whether the market is bearish or bulls.
I think it's just all about pride in what he said when he mentioned "real traders". And there's nothing wrong calling all of those brave traders to be real and have been trading no matter what the season is.
I'm also uncertain to see real traders making a good profit during the bear season. Well, the volatility of the market gives them a chance to earn some but quite hard when we just only see more on dump compared to pump. But I don't think their pride pushes them to continue doing this as what I see is that they know somehow that there is a chance. They are not looking at the negative side or the possible losses but rather thinking negatively despite the inevitable market situation.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 23, 2022, 11:17:01 AM
"Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

That trader must have a lot of money and not afraid to lose because he did not stop trading during this bear season. I can't say it is correct and also wrong but what's stopping other traders from trading during this season is the market uncertainty. They just want to protect their capital because they can't afford to lose more.

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I've stopped trading for now and converted all my crypto to stablecoins. Many people says we have not hit the bottom yet and market sentiment is still bearish.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: gunhell16 on June 23, 2022, 01:39:16 PM

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-Do you consider this trader correct?

For me as an individual trader here in the cryptocurrency, if it is bear market, that means I need to look for a coins where its expensive before then suddenly got dumped the price in the marke, were I know that coin is good to buy then hold, just a sismple as that. In short, I care and have a concern with the bear and bull market due to its a signal for me to do the right things.

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-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

As of the moment, nope! I don't trade actively in a way of daily trade, I'm just checking it twice a day only.
It is because,at this bear season daily trade is too difficult to do it. Or I maybe just having the wrong coins
that's why I am saying.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: LangePara on June 23, 2022, 03:18:14 PM
Typically a bear market washes all the noobs and the pro's stay in the market. So yeah he is right, all noobs get liquidated and the good traders stay in the market.



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Finestream on June 23, 2022, 09:43:54 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Real traders have always good strategies to combat whatever the condition of the market. So regardless if its bullish or bearish, they will always make profits in the market. But i believe this bearish market makes it hard time for them to gain high profits, but still they can make it because they already anticipate every market reaction as they have been long experiences in trading that they become experts as well. However, the very basic strategy of buying low and selling high is always what they mostly consider.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: lalabotax on June 23, 2022, 09:49:49 PM
What's meant by the real traders? The daily traders?
Commonly, a trader will use certain indicator and TA to trade every time. Yes, actually, they will not care about the bullish and bearish era. Because they only focus on buying and selling the coins for the short term. Moreover, for future market traders, they will utilize every market condition by utilizing Short or Long with certain leevrage.
But, bearish market may be also tricky for traders. That is why there needs certain strategy to deal with beairhs maret condition


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: justdimin on June 24, 2022, 12:55:30 PM
I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.
People who trade to earn, if that is their only income, should focus on maybe some other method for an alternative source of income during bear periods? I mean do not get me wrong, if you are a great trader then you could probably make money during this period as well, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't really do something like this neither if you are not a great veteran who can do it.

A person who has absolutely no chance of making a profit during this period, but normally relies on it to survive, will both lose money in a bear market, and won't be able to provide income for his life neither. That's a big risk, and I suggest finding an alternative.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Taskford on June 24, 2022, 01:24:26 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Real traders have always good strategies to combat whatever the condition of the market. So regardless if its bullish or bearish, they will always make profits in the market. But i believe this bearish market makes it hard time for them to gain high profits, but still they can make it because they already anticipate every market reaction as they have been long experiences in trading that they become experts as well. However, the very basic strategy of buying low and selling high is always what they mostly consider.

But not all can handle the pressure because sometimes many caught because there expectation didn't hit up and they encounter more dumps. I saw so many live streamer trader lose their money so we can say that even if how good a trader is for sure there are times that they will do a mistake speculating on what will be the outcome of the market then lose all their capital for that mistake.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rockstarguy on June 24, 2022, 01:54:43 PM
I believe that this trader is right that he continues to trade even in such a situation as now. Probably this is his only source of income, which means he needs to trade and earn. There is also another point, the fact is that now the prices for cryptocurrencies are very volatile, which is a great opportunity for an experienced trader to trade and earn income. On the other hand, if this trader is trading, he sees opportunities, and those who have stopped trading are probably just not confident in their abilities. In any case, everyone must decide for himself what to do, whether to trade cryptocurrency or not.
People who trade to earn, if that is their only income, should focus on maybe some other method for an alternative source of income during bear periods? I mean do not get me wrong, if you are a great trader then you could probably make money during this period as well, but that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't really do something like this neither if you are not a great veteran who can do it.

A person who has absolutely no chance of making a profit during this period, but normally relies on it to survive, will both lose money in a bear market, and won't be able to provide income for his life neither. That's a big risk, and I suggest finding an alternative.

Honestly it is very risky for one to rely on trading as a source of income now that the market is so volatile. The movement of the market can't be predicted,  and not having enough profit can make one to always panic and to be in a confused state. We are still experiencing the bearish market and definitely profit by this time won't be steady as one would think to sustain with it. For the sake of not to be too nervous to get profit which can affect trading emotionally,  its better not to just rely on only trading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Issa56 on June 24, 2022, 02:23:22 PM
If you are a professional trader you will still be making money whenever their is bear market, you can short a coin which you will still be making money as the coin is dumping, also you can be a day trader, like what have been happening with few days bitcon have been around $19k-$21k, a professional trader can still make money by following bitcoin movement, but not everybody understands it and if you are not careful you might endup losing money, only professionals can do that.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: palle11 on June 24, 2022, 03:03:43 PM
If you are a professional trader you will still be making money whenever their is bear market, you can short a coin which you will still be making money as the coin is dumping, also you can be a day trader, like what have been happening with few days bitcon have been around $19k-$21k, a professional trader can still make money by following bitcoin movement, but not everybody understands it and if you are not careful you might endup losing money, only professionals can do that.

At this time there is no guarantee for any kind of trader to make easy money. Fomo is on and that has a lot of carefulness to exhibit. Again to the extent that traders are expecting a bull and keeping an eye on it in making order but the price keep going down within $19k and $21k as you said. I think a little more force or hype is what the price is waiting to pick direction.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: livingfree on June 24, 2022, 04:23:13 PM
What's meant by the real traders? The daily traders?
Yeah, that's what he might meant.

Commonly, a trader will use certain indicator and TA to trade every time. Yes, actually, they will not care about the bullish and bearish era. Because they only focus on buying and selling the coins for the short term. Moreover, for future market traders, they will utilize every market condition by utilizing Short or Long with certain leevrage.
But, bearish market may be also tricky for traders. That is why there needs certain strategy to deal with beairhs maret condition
And this is also where those traders are confident of doing it specially when they've got a good TA and they'll trade it on a margin. I've got friends who have been doing it and they're good at it.

I've got no skill like them that whatever is the time, they'll trade based on what they think with the market and have their own strategy and analysis and they earn it.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: mindrust on June 24, 2022, 04:43:46 PM
Of course they don't. They don't even check the prices. It is them who want to get rich quick do that crap. Real holders buy and forget for like ~5 years and only then decide to what to do with their wealth. So far it brought the best results. (buying and holding) The next time won't be any different. 5 years from now, people will be talking about btc's new ATH. Maybe even sooner than that. As long as you don't sell, you are good.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Bhig Daddy on June 24, 2022, 07:29:26 PM
Well veteran and experienced traders will always trade no matter the season, they make money even when the mark is bull or bear. Well as for me I put a pause on my trading for now maybe till the market get a bit familiar.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: AakZaki on June 24, 2022, 07:39:25 PM
At this time there is no guarantee for any kind of trader to make easy money. Fomo is on and that has a lot of carefulness to exhibit. Again to the extent that traders are expecting a bull and keeping an eye on it in making order but the price keep going down within $19k and $21k as you said. I think a little more force or hype is what the price is waiting to pick direction.
nothing will be easy. Hadrian traders or those who trade using a scalping strategy will read the state of the market quickly and take small profits quickly with a few orders placed. You really need to be careful because you are playing with a fast market. FOMO and FUD will continue to happen, but before that happens traders already have a limit on where they have to buy and sell. Actually all traders care about the state of the bear or bull market, there are circumstances where trading is very dangerous and vice versa.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on June 24, 2022, 08:26:29 PM
Pros often not only know about it, but also know how to act correctly. This is most often the result of experience and a long time in trading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Viscore on June 24, 2022, 08:43:00 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
If you are a real and good trader, you will discover that there's always good opportunities in bears and bulls that can still help us generate profits, but most of the regular traders don't see it. However, it takes good strategies and exceptional skills to make it work. And it takes a lot more experience in crypto trading to be able to combat the pressures brought by the bear market. While most are losing in this bearish season and hardly survive in trading, real traders still find ways to be profitable since they know already how to attack the market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: RILWAN on June 24, 2022, 10:05:55 PM
I agree with your friend, real traders don't care about the market their use the market condition as a tool for making trading analyses and predictions. So either in a bull market or bear market it doesn't matter to an expert trader he just needs to flow with the market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: blockman on June 24, 2022, 11:08:53 PM
Day traders or not, we all end up being a trader but I agree with what he said that there's always the opportunity whether the market is bearish or bulls.
I think it's just all about pride in what he said when he mentioned "real traders". And there's nothing wrong calling all of those brave traders to be real and have been trading no matter what the season is.
I'm also uncertain to see real traders making a good profit during the bear season. Well, the volatility of the market gives them a chance to earn some but quite hard when we just only see more on dump compared to pump. But I don't think their pride pushes them to continue doing this as what I see is that they know somehow that there is a chance. They are not looking at the negative side or the possible losses but rather thinking negatively despite the inevitable market situation.
Well, in the margin they can bet for the short and still earn despite the continuous dump. I've been seeing traders that do that and great for them that even it keeps on dumping, they're earning good with it.
It's like any season where these traders can earn well and if they have been doing it for a long time and doing it as a career, they have adopted it all along and no matter how hard it looks like, they'll look at any opportunity that they can.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Munir575 on June 24, 2022, 11:26:06 PM
When the market starts to fall, some investors start to panic. But there are so many ways to take advantage of downward markets that there’s no need to make a move out of fear. the most common way of profiting when a market declines, is short-selling.
Every bear market affects both so-called real traders and hodlers alike, the only difference I see here is that professional traders already have enough knowledge and all that is required to keep trading and making money, though the amount of money which can be made during a bear market can never be as much as money made during a good market.
Another thing that professional traders understand is how to use market conditions to their advantage. That is, whether the market is rising or falling, traders who trade futures can always make money from both sides, which is what this trader in your conversation is doing, longing and shorting.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: n0ne on June 24, 2022, 11:50:58 PM
I'm not much into Trading, but it looks like real traders always have their mind prepared for the best outcome unlike the market trend. Whether the market is bullish/bearish they try to make an earning out of the market fluctuation. This makes them to stand away from the normal traders. Even here they experience losses, but have got the tactics to overcome the same.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 25, 2022, 08:45:54 AM
If you are a professional trader you will still be making money whenever their is bear market, you can short a coin which you will still be making money as the coin is dumping, also you can be a day trader, like what have been happening with few days bitcon have been around $19k-$21k, a professional trader can still make money by following bitcoin movement, but not everybody understands it and if you are not careful you might endup losing money, only professionals can do that.
At this time there is no guarantee for any kind of trader to make easy money. Fomo is on and that has a lot of carefulness to exhibit. Again to the extent that traders are expecting a bull and keeping an eye on it in making order but the price keep going down within $19k and $21k as you said. I think a little more force or hype is what the price is waiting to pick direction.
It's going to be pretty easy for most traders to make money when the price really starts to skyrocket. It is not going to happen today or tomorrow, but it will definitely be something that will change the way traders work. When it is the bear market it is not going to be easy to make a profit, maybe some sort of find the little upticks that happens here and there, but it's hard, or you do shorting and that's even harder.

But with the bull run, you buy something, it goes up, you sell it, buy another thing, that goes up, you sell it and you repeat that like a hundred times and that's how you make a profit. It's not going to be easy, but it is not going to be impossible neither during the bull run.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rupok on June 26, 2022, 10:45:16 AM
Real traders don’t care about the bear and bull market.They never lose confidence in the bear market.They use their intellect to invest.I have seen many people who like to take risks. They are never worried about their risks.They plan to make more profit in the bear market. They buy different altcoins and increase the level of investment.They intend to buy coins at the bear market and sell them at the bull market.There is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season and these opportunities are used by real traders.They are very knowledgeable and they have an idea about everything that will happen in the market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on June 26, 2022, 11:06:51 AM
Real traders try to consider all scenarios that a trader can expect. This should be clearly understood.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sana54210 on June 26, 2022, 09:02:39 PM
Real traders don’t care about the bear and bull market.They never lose confidence in the bear market.They use their intellect to invest.I have seen many people who like to take risks. They are never worried about their risks.They plan to make more profit in the bear market. They buy different altcoins and increase the level of investment.They intend to buy coins at the bear market and sell them at the bull market.There is always a way to make trading successful during the bear season and these opportunities are used by real traders.They are very knowledgeable and they have an idea about everything that will happen in the market.
Trader and investors are different things. Which means that if you see the price dropping a lot during a bear market, that means you are going to end up investing into something and waiting for it to recover and that is a good idea, you should definitely do that.

However, if we are talking about traders, then you should be buying AND selling, the selling part is an important part of trading world, without selling, you are just investing. And that is why the question is not a bad one, would you trade when you are aware that it is a bear market? I still would, but there could be some people who could stop trading because we are in the bear market right now.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: niceli on June 26, 2022, 09:08:11 PM
It is definitely not an easy situation to trade during bear period, I mean you could do it, but its not a good decision if you are not sure. What you can do is, if it starts at 30, you sell, then when its 27, you buy, then at 29 you sell, then at 25 you buy then at 26 you sell etc etc. As you can see the overall price dropped, but you found those peaks and I agree, those peaks are the periods where you make money you are right about that. But can you? I mean finding those is as hard as it gets and I doubt that anyone can do that easily. I just stay away, makes more sense.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Kasabus on June 26, 2022, 09:19:11 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Experts in trading will always find ways to be profitable even when the market condition does not seem to cooperate. I think due to their high experience in trading, they can already predict what's next to happen in the market. Be it bears or bulls, real traders will never stop from trading unless they find enough reasons not to trade. While regular traders do not see good opportunities to trade in bearish market, expert traders still find it good and end up making a good amount.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Oilacris on June 26, 2022, 09:47:08 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Experts in trading will always find ways to be profitable even when the market condition does not seem to cooperate. I think due to their high experience in trading, they can already predict what's next to happen in the market. Be it bears or bulls, real traders will never stop from trading unless they find enough reasons not to trade. While regular traders do not see good opportunities to trade in bearish market, expert traders still find it good and end up making a good amount.
As a trader then you should really be that versatile whenever you are facing bear or bull market then you would really find ways on making yourself profitable or something that shouldnt really be able to be that affected.

Well, this isnt something simple as it sounds because you would really be needing that patience and perseverance on reaching out that particular state.Not all would really be having that kind of quality and perception towards

market because this isnt something that could easily be predicted. Be versatile and able to cope up on the market condition which is something a very usual thing to be done as a trader.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: 2stout on June 26, 2022, 09:57:54 PM
Absolutely they care.  You have different type of traders, i.e., day traders, hodlers, etc and different goals- short vs long term gain.  So for any trader, there would be care as market conditions would represent different actions- like some would sell, others would buy, and the remaining may stand pat or decide to go into options or leverage.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: kesmex on June 26, 2022, 10:07:03 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
Experts in trading will always find ways to be profitable even when the market condition does not seem to cooperate. I think due to their high experience in trading, they can already predict what's next to happen in the market. Be it bears or bulls, real traders will never stop from trading unless they find enough reasons not to trade. While regular traders do not see good opportunities to trade in bearish market, expert traders still find it good and end up making a good amount.
Experience is the best teacher and I totally agree with that statement,
because indeed when we have a lot of experience it will also make us grow and know what to do to make a profit,
In addition, when newbie traders are in bear market conditions they tend to panic and in the end it makes them lose money


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on June 26, 2022, 11:41:15 PM
-Do you consider this trader correct?

To continue trading regardless of the market season, yes. About traders don't care about the market condition, no.  The most important thing for a trader is the market condition because it is where he will base his trading decisions.

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

I am still trading, I always try to scalp the altcoin market, it is kinda hard and needs a lot of patience. 


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: ChrisPop on June 27, 2022, 11:49:17 AM
Bear markets are usually bad for the hodlers (for the weak hands I might add). Professional traders should have different strategies for different market environments.
It is very hard to be a profitable trader and especialy day-trader in the long run. It requires a special kind of skill set from which I'd say that the most important is emotional control/mastery.

Allegedly many traders do make the most in bear markets due to the sharp down movements. In a bull market the price might go much more in the upside direction, but it will do it slowly most of the time.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Fatunad on June 27, 2022, 08:42:56 PM
Bear markets are usually bad for the hodlers (for the weak hands I might add). Professional traders should have different strategies for different market environments.
It is very hard to be a profitable trader and especialy day-trader in the long run. It requires a special kind of skill set from which I'd say that the most important is emotional control/mastery.

Allegedly many traders do make the most in bear markets due to the sharp down movements. In a bull market the price might go much more in the upside direction, but it will do it slowly most of the time.
Bad for holders but only on the time that they would be seeing their portfolio but it wasnt really that bad as long you dont sell then i dont see any problems but there are traders who do really make out still money
despite of the market conditions and just like on what others said that about being versatile is one of the or must skills for someone when they do make out some active trades since we know that the market could really be having that bullish or bearish movement or condition which does simply means that you are really that making that specific analysis for the said or right situation which you would see for it to be relevant to be used.
Majority of people are going for long term thats why i dont see much complicated decision whenever they do tend to accumulate on whatever the market condition would be but there are people who are really
trying out to be perfect on seeking out the right spot or simply the possible bottom that could market able to do so.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Crytpo-Guy on June 28, 2022, 04:47:51 AM
Real traders does not really care about the bear and bull market because they take advantage of every opportunity that comes to the market, they see both bear market and bull markets as an opportunity to make profits, but not everyone can succeed in it though, I'll say it's only those who understands there fundamental and technical analysis because both works together. Bull market are best for long term investors or holder's while bear market are also best for day traders on future trade because they have opportunity to short there trade when they know a market crash is about to happen. And another thing is understanding your support, resistance, and market volatility; if you're good at them, then you should be able to cope in any presents condition of the market


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: hashrateproducts on June 28, 2022, 06:20:31 AM
Bear markets are usually bad for the hodlers (for the weak hands I might add). Professional traders should have different strategies for different market environments.
It is very hard to be a profitable trader and especialy day-trader in the long run. It requires a special kind of skill set from which I'd say that the most important is emotional control/mastery.

Allegedly many traders do make the most in bear markets due to the sharp down movements. In a bull market the price might go much more in the upside direction, but it will do it slowly most of the time.
Traders major concern in the market is the bull and bear market because that's where it determines if they would be in Profits or loss. Every trader always take their time when investing in projects inother not to go get trapped in the bear run, because the bear market is not for the weak rather for the strong, only those that can have the capacity to keep on holding a coin when it is dipping. This Crypto space, we only have two set of investors or traders in the space, those waiting for the bear market so they could bagged more dipped coins for a Token while others wait for the bull Market, so they can watch their project pump to the moon.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: kapalmabur on June 28, 2022, 06:35:29 AM
Bear markets are usually bad for the hodlers (for the weak hands I might add). Professional traders should have different strategies for different market environments.
It is very hard to be a profitable trader and especialy day-trader in the long run. It requires a special kind of skill set from which I'd say that the most important is emotional control/mastery.

Allegedly many traders do make the most in bear markets due to the sharp down movements. In a bull market the price might go much more in the upside direction, but it will do it slowly most of the time.
When a bear market maybe as a trader there is not much to do,
In addition to making decisions, of course, you need to consider many things to minimize risk as much as possible,
during a bear market indeed traders take the moment to buy and it is the right decision


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: ImThour on June 28, 2022, 06:37:12 AM
Yes, for me as a Trader for the past 2 years, I do care about what way the market is moving. Imagine you are not sure If we are in a bull market, how will you make the most of the trend?
Knowing which trend we are in is the primary goal of a trader and then only you can achieve a high success rate in your trades.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Franctoshi on June 30, 2022, 12:07:07 AM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
One thing that involves with trading is "what that works for you might not work for me" i.e trading involves individual trader's own strategy to navigate the volatile market , therefore if what he's doing is working for him and he's making profit out of it then good for him and let him stick to what he knows that is profiting him that you might not know.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: GiftedMAN on June 30, 2022, 06:40:13 AM
If you are a professional trader you will still be making money whenever their is bear market, you can short a coin which you will still be making money as the coin is dumping, also you can be a day trader, like what have been happening with few days bitcon have been around $19k-$21k, a professional trader can still make money by following bitcoin movement, but not everybody understands it and if you are not careful you might endup losing money, only professionals can do that.

At this time there is no guarantee for any kind of trader to make easy money. Fomo is on and that has a lot of carefulness to exhibit. Again to the extent that traders are expecting a bull and keeping an eye on it in making order but the price keep going down within $19k and $21k as you said. I think a little more force or hype is what the price is waiting to pick direction.
True, but there has never been a time where a trader has 100% guarantee in profit-making in trading even when the price is at the highest level, before the bear market Fomo has always been in the mind of traders, especially those who have little or no trading experience and good trading strategy. Making a profit now will require a lot of extra calculated trading principles because the market is down most traders are confused about what to trade on knowing to well that the market keeps going down. The traders that can make profit right now are those who have been in the business for a long time and those who understands the importance of patience and discipline in trading.



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Note3 on June 30, 2022, 07:32:03 AM

To answer your thread title, of course real traders will cares about bull or bear trend because this is to determine the right strategy in each trend that is currently running, traders expect profits so there will be different strategies from each trend.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Jocuserious on June 30, 2022, 08:13:44 PM
I really Don't know but for small trader follow profits everyday it like me. According to my know all higher trader care about bear and bull market for there trade progress. However i will be happy for short profits because my trader assets also low so can't expect big profits and i hope every daily trader will follow same think.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: stomachgrowls on June 30, 2022, 08:19:02 PM
I really Don't know but for small trader follow profits everyday it like me. According to my know all higher trader care about bear and bull market for there trade progress. However i will be happy for short profits because my trader assets also low so can't expect big profits and i hope every daily trader will follow same think.
There are different type of traders
https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/types-of-traders

but would mention out the common ones.

1. Daytrader
2. Arbitrage
3. Scalper
4. Swing
.....

So if we do talk about bear and bullish market and able to handle out these conditions
then this do mostly talk about scalper.They dont really care on whats the current trend
yet they do always mind of about snipping profits on movements of price in shortest time frame.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rigon on June 30, 2022, 08:36:40 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
In fact those who are real traders but sit in this market. Of course they are in the market to buy and sell Because they have a good idea about the market.We may not be involved in any trader, so we should not trade with our thoughts.Those who are real traders are making a lot of profit in this market. I have seen them on the market side at the present time.If they did not trade in the market, the market would show zero volume.Real traders don't care about the bull market or the beer market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: FanEagle on July 02, 2022, 06:04:21 PM
I do not know what a "real" trader means, I mean I do trades, I am usually a long term investor but I do have a few trades per week, just when I think things are looking like prime to buy and sell. Does this market impact me? Of course it does, and it doesn't really feel like it is a special situation that only I feel, it must be something that everyone is feeling.

By "caring" do we mean that we stop or something? Because we do not stop but we do not like it neither. It's best if we could have a bull market because in that market everyone wins, but just because we are in bear market doesn't mean that we have to run away and hide and not do anything at all.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: stadus on July 03, 2022, 01:20:11 AM
I do not know what a "real" trader means, I mean I do trades, I am usually a long term investor but I do have a few trades per week, just when I think things are looking like prime to buy and sell. Does this market impact me? Of course it does, and it doesn't really feel like it is a special situation that only I feel, it must be something that everyone is feeling.

By "caring" do we mean that we stop or something? Because we do not stop but we do not like it neither. It's best if we could have a bull market because in that market everyone wins, but just because we are in bear market doesn't mean that we have to run away and hide and not do anything at all.

We care whatever the market situation is because we have a different approach to different market situations.

I'm also confused with the words "real traders" because though I would say I'm a newbie in trading, I already consider myself a real trader since I'm doing what traders are doing.

Bull market, opportunity to sell.
Bear market, opportunity to buy.

That's the simple principle I followed.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: newdevices on July 03, 2022, 03:53:11 AM
I do not know what a "real" trader means, I mean I do trades, I am usually a long term investor but I do have a few trades per week, just when I think things are looking like prime to buy and sell. Does this market impact me? Of course it does, and it doesn't really feel like it is a special situation that only I feel, it must be something that everyone is feeling.

By "caring" do we mean that we stop or something? Because we do not stop but we do not like it neither. It's best if we could have a bull market because in that market everyone wins, but just because we are in bear market doesn't mean that we have to run away and hide and not do anything at all.

We care whatever the market situation is because we have a different approach to different market situations.

I'm also confused with the words "real traders" because though I would say I'm a newbie in trading, I already consider myself a real trader since I'm doing what traders are doing.

Bull market, opportunity to sell.
Bear market, opportunity to buy.

That's the simple principle I followed.
Talking about a real trader is indeed ambiguous and what are the definite benchmarks so that someone can be said to be a real trader,
but apart from that simple things or simple principles that you say we really need to know,
like when it's a bear market right now where it is necessary to take advantage of this opportunity to buy and vice versa when it's a bull market it's a moment to sell


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: freedomgo on July 03, 2022, 08:19:11 AM

Talking about a real trader is indeed ambiguous and what are the definite benchmarks so that someone can be said to be a real trader,
but apart from that simple things or simple principles that you say we really need to know,
like when it's a bear market right now where it is necessary to take advantage of this opportunity to buy and vice versa when it's a bull market it's a moment to sell
Real traders are those who take major risks without a doubt and will continue to trade in any market condition. And of course, they are too smart and they will never make decisions too fast, even buying and selling - they'll go with thorough market analysis and that includes price trend. They have a deep market understanding and experience which finds easy for them to analyze - that was their advantage. And to ask if they care about the market situation? That was very certain but never it give them worry if it dump, they will a take short buy while waiting for another (short) pump.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 10, 2022, 05:35:49 AM
The merchants, or traders, or market speculators, what matters to them is to follow the trend or direction that the market takes, a good market speculator does not care if the BTC market goes up or down, what matters is that in based on any direction it takes, it will win, either in the fall the trader will take advantage of that movement perhaps to make operations with leverage and obtain profits, this is the real difference between a trader or market speculator and an investor, because the investor always You will want the price of BTC to always be rising, because it is generating profitability, and everything will be green.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on July 10, 2022, 10:17:32 AM
Real traders worry about all the nuances of the market. It should be understood that in the process of work, traders have to analyze the market as much as possible in order to be confident in their results.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sensimilia on July 14, 2022, 03:15:50 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
The basic idea that a trader needs to have in order to trade is that if a person has an idea, it will be very difficult for him to make a profit.  However, in this market situation, everything has to be done in collaboration, but especially for dating, experience is very necessary. You need to know well what is going to happen in the future. There are many reasons for a trader to stop reading.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: gunhell16 on July 15, 2022, 02:07:10 AM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?

In my honest opinion, we can really make money by doing crypto trading whether it is Bull or Bear market season.
It is even possible that other individual traders do not care what season we have as long as his when he sees that he
has a chance to earn he will buy a token or coin when it falls hard in the market and when he sees that it has risen
as much as 50% profit he will sell it, that's how simple it is for them. And this is my understanding of that matter.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rojan on July 15, 2022, 04:40:20 AM
Real traders worry about all the nuances of the market. It should be understood that in the process of work, traders have to analyze the market as much as possible in order to be confident in their results.
A trader has to keep an eye on the market all the time.  The trader has to keep an eye on when the market condition is good and when the market condition is bad.  I think it's better not to do any work in a hurry.  I think it's better to work with time in mind.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Lida93 on July 15, 2022, 01:50:09 PM
He wasn't wrong in his statement as many traders in the past has really hit good profit from the market  at moments like these. But just to remind you and others not to fall into a wrong motivation, real traders are also a combination of those with the bigger bags and not for those trying to build up their asset.

when it comes to taking a risk, take risk according to your class/level.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: AicecreaME on July 16, 2022, 03:27:52 PM
Professional traders doesn't care about the market if it's bearish or bullish, it's just the same in my opinion, as long as the price chart is there, either bullish or bearish, they're gonna analyze that and make profits whatever the market situation is, simple as that. It's all about experience, and knowledge, if you know what you're doing, then you're surely gonna make money in any kind of situations.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on July 16, 2022, 08:02:45 PM
Real traders who think about their results first of all evaluate the processes that take place in the market. It's just the key to success.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: nurilham on July 16, 2022, 11:39:54 PM
Professional traders doesn't care about the market if it's bearish or bullish, it's just the same in my opinion, as long as the price chart is there, either bullish or bearish, they're gonna analyze that and make profits whatever the market situation is, simple as that. It's all about experience, and knowledge, if you know what you're doing, then you're surely gonna make money in any kind of situations.
True. Actually, we can take benefits from any situation both bearish and bullish. Crypto prices always fluctuate, there should be a price change. As long as there is a price change, we can earn profits from the price gap. So, professional traders can always see the chance to make profits through trading in any situation. But it is not easy to analyze when to buy or sell, it requires experience and sufficient knowledge.



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on July 17, 2022, 11:38:46 PM

Talking about a real trader is indeed ambiguous and what are the definite benchmarks so that someone can be said to be a real trader,
but apart from that simple things or simple principles that you say we really need to know,
like when it's a bear market right now where it is necessary to take advantage of this opportunity to buy and vice versa when it's a bull market it's a moment to sell
Real traders are those who take major risks without a doubt and will continue to trade in any market condition. And of course, they are too smart and they will never make decisions too fast, even buying and selling - they'll go with thorough market analysis and that includes price trend. They have a deep market understanding and experience which finds easy for them to analyze - that was their advantage. And to ask if they care about the market situation? That was very certain but never it give them worry if it dump, they will a take short buy while waiting for another (short) pump.

If it's something like what I said before, a market speculator doesn't care if his stock goes up or down, what matters to him is to go in the direction the market is going to win, if the market goes down, go in the fall and possibly leveraged at least 5x, if it goes up, go up, but it is very difficult to follow these things for traders because to follow volatility in the right direction requires a lot of dedication and effort, and It is possible not to detach yourself from the PC to follow the movement.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 17, 2022, 11:59:21 PM

Talking about a real trader is indeed ambiguous and what are the definite benchmarks so that someone can be said to be a real trader,
but apart from that simple things or simple principles that you say we really need to know,
like when it's a bear market right now where it is necessary to take advantage of this opportunity to buy and vice versa when it's a bull market it's a moment to sell
Real traders are those who take major risks without a doubt and will continue to trade in any market condition. And of course, they are too smart and they will never make decisions too fast, even buying and selling - they'll go with thorough market analysis and that includes price trend. They have a deep market understanding and experience which finds easy for them to analyze - that was their advantage. And to ask if they care about the market situation? That was very certain but never it give them worry if it dump, they will a take short buy while waiting for another (short) pump.

If it's something like what I said before, a market speculator doesn't care if his stock goes up or down, what matters to him is to go in the direction the market is going to win, if the market goes down, go in the fall and possibly leveraged at least 5x, if it goes up, go up, but it is very difficult to follow these things for traders because to follow volatility in the right direction requires a lot of dedication and effort, and It is possible not to detach yourself from the PC to follow the movement.

Not only dedication and effort but also have a good control of emotional aspect on which people should really be having those traits and as a real trader which does have these kind of qualities are the ones that are really that versatile with their positions on which this indicates that you are indeed a good one but we know that there are different type of traders which could really make out actions on different situations.
Some are focused and some are that too prepared because we cant really able to predict on whats ahead.

Doesnt matter on what type are you as long you could able to sustain yourself within the market then that what matter or counts.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Xampeuu on July 18, 2022, 05:51:47 AM
I think if the merchant has mastered the field, then there is nothing to argue about. in trading there is the term follow trend and contra trend, both have different treatment according to each trader, there are many opportunities that can be exploited even in a bear market situation, and if we can take advantage of them we can collect profits. but there are also traders who prefer to wait to sleep during the bearish season, I think every trader has their own style, and there is nothing wrong with that


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: sklopan on July 18, 2022, 01:28:23 PM
A real trader always analyzes the market to the smallest detail. It should be understood that this is what allows you to conduct a qualitative analysis, and as a result - to get a positive result of the work.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: gabbie2010 on July 18, 2022, 04:07:45 PM
Professional traders doesn't care about the market if it's bearish or bullish, it's just the same in my opinion, as long as the price chart is there, either bullish or bearish, they're gonna analyze that and make profits whatever the market situation is, simple as that. It's all about experience, and knowledge, if you know what you're doing, then you're surely gonna make money in any kind of situations.
True. Actually, we can take benefits from any situation both bearish and bullish. Crypto prices always fluctuate, there should be a price change. As long as there is a price change, we can earn profits from the price gap. So, professional traders can always see the chance to make profits through trading in any situation. But it is not easy to analyze when to buy or sell, it requires experience and sufficient knowledge.


The most important aspect of trading is trend and volatility once the market is trending with a high volatility whether in bearish or bullish market any experience trader will earn profits consistently, however this depends on how experience is such a trader, in a bearish market a trader with a working strategy will short trades appropriately once their is a signal to sell after fundamental and technical analysis of the pair to be traded had been done, likewise in a bullish market long trade is triggered, thus irrespective of the market conditions real traders earn decent profits.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TheUltraElite on July 25, 2022, 08:20:49 AM
A real trader always analyzes the market to the smallest detail. It should be understood that this is what allows you to conduct a qualitative analysis, and as a result - to get a positive result of the work.
Too much analysis leads to paralysis and hence it should be limited to what is necessary.

There are some basic rules to follow which newbies and even some failing traders end up not following. Buy at low and sell at high. This is why even if it is bear or bull it won't matter to veteran traders.

There needs to be a better care on how funds are managed. Not knowing this leads to the problems of going rekt.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: mayfair_coin on July 25, 2022, 01:07:47 PM
A true investor never thought that the market is going down or up, he makes money by thinking far away, if he thinks that this investment is not going to move forward, then he sells and when everyone is selling then he buys.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Fatunad on July 25, 2022, 09:54:18 PM
A real trader always analyzes the market to the smallest detail. It should be understood that this is what allows you to conduct a qualitative analysis, and as a result - to get a positive result of the work.
Too much analysis leads to paralysis and hence it should be limited to what is necessary.

There are some basic rules to follow which newbies and even some failing traders end up not following. Buy at low and sell at high. This is why even if it is bear or bull it won't matter to veteran traders.

There needs to be a better care on how funds are managed. Not knowing this leads to the problems of going rekt.
Only use on something which you do see for it to be relevant or useful and dont make yourself overloaded on things because it is really that stressful rather than to be helpful.
Stick with your own means or ways of trading and dont make yourself too impulsive nor getting depressed or desperate because things would go messy if you dont really mind
even on the simplest principle which is attached to trading. Real traders are the ones who could make out money despite of bear or dumping situation but since we do know
on what are the type of traders then it is something considerable in some cases.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Newlifebtc on July 25, 2022, 10:14:11 PM
Traders do enjoy the time of bullish market because bullish market is what bring progress success and numerous profit into a cryptocurrency trading investment so no trader that does not embrace bullish market which is known as rising of cryptocurrency so therefore icon to let people know that beer market is only time that anyone who have a future in crypto trading to make in their own gain by


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TheUltraElite on July 31, 2022, 05:03:56 AM
Stick with your own means or ways of trading and dont make yourself too impulsive nor getting depressed or desperate because things would go messy if you dont really mind even on the simplest principle which is attached to trading. Real traders are the ones who could make out money despite of bear or dumping situation but since we do know on what are the type of traders then it is something considerable in some cases.
Real traders are the ones who end up being consistent and that is possible only if they know how to deal with both bear and bull markets. What goes wrong with majority of short term traders is that they make the wrong move at the wrong time. While there are chances that many of them will recover and learn from their mistakes, the grief of losing money to something new is often tough to deal with and lead to exit from the market completely for many.

The way to prevent this from happening is to know that every bull and bear cycle is a continuous process and prices will move in the opposite in a span of time.



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Cling18 on July 31, 2022, 05:45:29 AM
Yes, the market situation matters to professional traders but they know how to deal with it. They take every market condition as an opportunity to make a profit since they know how to do their own technical analysis based on their knowledge. They're traders who don't focus on their losses but rather see more opportunities to recover them.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: pawanjain on July 31, 2022, 01:23:12 PM
They say that a trader can make money in a bull market as well as in a bear market if he executes his trades right.
So from that perspective it doesn't really matter if the market is going bullish or bearish because the right ones will make their profits anyway.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TheUltraElite on August 02, 2022, 11:16:04 AM
They say that a trader can make money in a bull market as well as in a bear market if he executes his trades right.
So from that perspective it doesn't really matter if the market is going bullish or bearish because the right ones will make their profits anyway.
  They won't always be making profit. They will once they sell at a profit after buying ar a low. A good trader keeps this consistency in these things. There are times when you will fell low but don't let the market bring down your morals.

Taking profits is always difficult for many people. This depends on patience on waiting for prices to hit.

Overall traders have their own approch to bear and bull markets. It is not everyone's cup of tea.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Rockstarguy on August 02, 2022, 01:58:10 PM
They say that a trader can make money in a bull market as well as in a bear market if he executes his trades right.
So from that perspective it doesn't really matter if the market is going bullish or bearish because the right ones will make their profits anyway.
The thing is that the bull market is not only a time traders do trading , both the bull market and the bear market are meant for traders to make trade, during the bearish market their are no much profit and the market can be difficult for some people, but some experience trader with good trading skill can still scale through in the bear market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rozak on August 02, 2022, 02:09:55 PM
They say that a trader can make money in a bull market as well as in a bear market if he executes his trades right.
So from that perspective it doesn't really matter if the market is going bullish or bearish because the right ones will make their profits anyway.
The thing is that the bull market is not only a time traders do trading , both the bull market and the bear market are meant for traders to make trade, during the bearish market their are no much profit and the market can be difficult for some people, but some experience trader with good trading skill can still scale through in the bear market.
because indeed when the bear market comes we will still see the assets that make the pump. we often see some assets bounce off during a dump. like making a small pump before finally repairing it again.

especially with futures trading. I think all traders can still benefit from any conditions. What is clear is that we must be aware of the risks.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: jossiel on August 02, 2022, 03:07:00 PM
Yes, the market situation matters to professional traders but they know how to deal with it. They take every market condition as an opportunity to make a profit since they know how to do their own technical analysis based on their knowledge. They're traders who don't focus on their losses but rather see more opportunities to recover them.
In every situation of the market, there's opportunity.

Most traders care for that but no matter what is the situation, if they're experienced and doing trading all of their lives, they can make things possible as it's their way of living.

That's why the pro traders, won't have any excuse for the market situation because they can make things matter in worse or in best.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: pawanjain on August 03, 2022, 02:03:23 PM
They say that a trader can make money in a bull market as well as in a bear market if he executes his trades right.
So from that perspective it doesn't really matter if the market is going bullish or bearish because the right ones will make their profits anyway.
The thing is that the bull market is not only a time traders do trading , both the bull market and the bear market are meant for traders to make trade, during the bearish market their are no much profit and the market can be difficult for some people, but some experience trader with good trading skill can still scale through in the bear market.
because indeed when the bear market comes we will still see the assets that make the pump. we often see some assets bounce off during a dump. like making a small pump before finally repairing it again.

especially with futures trading. I think all traders can still benefit from any conditions. What is clear is that we must be aware of the risks.

I have heard from many people and witnessed this fact myself that bear markets give bigger profits in short selling.
This is because the candles are big and volatility is high. So the returns get bigger during a crash.
But as we all know, it's not for everyone to make money in highly volatile market conditions.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: ItsCrafty on August 18, 2022, 04:18:16 PM
Actually traders requires experience and it is the fact that if you become familiar with crypto trading then the chances of losing money become reduces but there is numerous faults which occurs as mistake from everyone and these faults become the cause of their failure. Not everyone is a perfect they must face some issues. Real traders also thinks about bear and bull market because they also do not want to loss their money but they have knowledge that how to cope with it so they can overcome their loses.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: virasisog on August 18, 2022, 05:08:27 PM
Actually traders requires experience and it is the fact that if you become familiar with crypto trading then the chances of losing money become reduces but there is numerous faults which occurs as mistake from everyone and these faults become the cause of their failure. Not everyone is a perfect they must face some issues. Real traders also thinks about bear and bull market because they also do not want to loss their money but they have knowledge that how to cope with it so they can overcome their loses.

The bull and bear market still matters to traders but they're still able to make a profit from the market in any situation. They are experienced enough to deal with the changes and make a profit even if the market is not in a good shape. Of course, they still experience losses but they know how to deal with and recover from them.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: konflikkastil on August 18, 2022, 05:28:29 PM
Do real traders care about bear and bull market? Yes, to answer your question. Either of the directions the market decided to take, you can make lots of money from it. When I started trading few years ago, that was my question too, thinking you can only make money when the market is going towards a particular direction. Later, did I discovered that I have missed out several opportunities to cash in more dollars. Bear and bull is just a two ways the market moves, if its bear, you trade in bear direction. And if your prediction is right. You have hit a jackpot for that trade. And same thing goes for the bull market, money can be cashed in too big time. But, it very important to understand the movement of the market before you jump into any trade in other not to have yourself to blame at the end of the day. Trading is very technical and logical, if you are the one analyzing the signals yourself.   


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 18, 2022, 10:27:25 PM
Actually traders requires experience and it is the fact that if you become familiar with crypto trading then the chances of losing money become reduces but there is numerous faults which occurs as mistake from everyone and these faults become the cause of their failure. Not everyone is a perfect they must face some issues. Real traders also thinks about bear and bull market because they also do not want to loss their money but they have knowledge that how to cope with it so they can overcome their loses.

The bull and bear market still matters to traders but they're still able to make a profit from the market in any situation. They are experienced enough to deal with the changes and make a profit even if the market is not in a good shape. Of course, they still experience losses but they know how to deal with and recover from them.
The ones who do make profits or money neither bear or bull is to those scalpers and short day trader where they are dealing with each movement of price in the market and since there's an activity between buyers

and sellers most of the time then they could really make profits out from that but considering or minding about the risk involved then this is the most riskiest type of trade where someone could able to involved with.

Real traders are the ones who do able to make profits whether you are long term or short term one, it wouldnt matter.As long you do able to sustain and survive on this market then that what surely counts.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: TelolettOm on August 18, 2022, 11:56:25 PM
If it is a real trader, they will always do trading anytime, whether it is bull or even bear market situation. But, in my opinion, they still care about the bearish and bullish market situation because it will relate to how they do the TA or FA. Commonly, the bearish market situation may be worse, there are high sentimental during the bearish era, moreover when the price seems like increasing but suddenly it will fall quickly with certain market correction, this will reall give  mean for traders.
That is why this kind of trader commonlywill ahve certain strategy to come up or oevercome this situation like using stp loss, heding mode, and others in order to minimize the loss. becausethey must use the money to trade everyday, not for investing for long term after crashing.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: RealMalatesta on August 19, 2022, 03:50:32 PM
Actually traders requires experience and it is the fact that if you become familiar with crypto trading then the chances of losing money become reduces but there is numerous faults which occurs as mistake from everyone and these faults become the cause of their failure. Not everyone is a perfect they must face some issues. Real traders also thinks about bear and bull market because they also do not want to loss their money but they have knowledge that how to cope with it so they can overcome their loses.
The bull and bear market still matters to traders but they're still able to make a profit from the market in any situation. They are experienced enough to deal with the changes and make a profit even if the market is not in a good shape. Of course, they still experience losses but they know how to deal with and recover from them.
That’s the point of being a trader, if you are making money on during the bull periods then it’s easy and everyone can do that, but if you could make a profit during the bad times as well then you are going to be doing a great job and that’s very important.

I personally do not believe that we should be making these type of decisions based on just the period, bear or bull you should be trading if you think you are a good trader. Not everyone believes they are a great trader but I believe that it’s going to be cool if you could. Anyone who could make a good profit during the bear period would be doing a great job and I believe it’s going to reflect on their success a lot more.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Chainsmokers on August 20, 2022, 11:08:22 AM
oh of course, a trader must also care about that, bear markets and bull markets can also make profits for traders,
of course by scalping in futures trading, so that's why traders must know how the market moves in the future.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Peanutswar on August 20, 2022, 11:37:38 AM
Anyone who holds a coin and would like to buy it really cares about the market because the people who bought already their coin at a higher price than the current market make them think that to hold their coins for long term and even though they lose or still make it to sell to make a cut loss and this time it is a good opportunity to make a position to buy and of course of the market crash of the crypto happens for sure many people pull out their investment to prevent more losses of assets.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rozak on August 20, 2022, 12:36:33 PM
Anyone who holds a coin and would like to buy it really cares about the market because the people who bought already their coin at a higher price than the current market make them think that to hold their coins for long term and even though they lose or still make it to sell to make a cut loss and this time it is a good opportunity to make a position to buy and of course of the market crash of the crypto happens for sure many people pull out their investment to prevent more losses of assets.
For those who invest long-term, I don't think it will be that easy to withdraw their investment when they see the market is falling. especially for those who are experienced and do long-term investment planning.
a difficult choice if you have to come out with a cut loss. because of the previous dump, I think some people are already planning long-term investments.
If a more severe dump occurs this year, of course, it will make people increase their capital. not selling at a loss.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Docnaster on August 20, 2022, 03:41:27 PM
Op, if i am to answer your question directly, I will tell you that traders care much about the bear and bull markets. It is not only the traders that care about the bear and bull. Also ordinary investors who do not sell in short time care about bear and bull markets. When you check project owners they care about you bull and bear markets. That is the reason why you will notice that during the bear market, so many projects suffer and the new ones that does not have strong root die away. But when it is bull markets, new projects will be entering the market. If I say that everybody in the market care about the bull and the bear market, I may not be wrong.

Some expert traders still make profits from the bear market because the market does not move smoothly upwards or downwards, there is always a consolidation zone where some profits could be made.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: jrrsparkles on August 20, 2022, 08:15:41 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

-Do you consider this trader correct?

-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
It actually depends on what kind of trader they are, if they are a day trader then probably they are not going to look at the bear and bull market because their goal period to achieve is like 5 minutes or 15 minutes or less than a day so they go more with what is happening at the moment so will make decisions which may favours them but if someone is being a long term trader they definitely wait for the bull and bear market, at the time of bear market it is the time to accumulate then only they get profits at the time of bull market.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: lalabotax on August 20, 2022, 09:51:57 PM
Op, if i am to answer your question directly, I will tell you that traders care much about the bear and bull markets. It is not only the traders that care about the bear and bull. Also ordinary investors who do not sell in short time care about bear and bull markets.
Everyone cares about bear-bull market since it has a big role to influence the prices of crypto market. If we have no bear-bull market periods, we have no significant changes in crypto prices. It means we can't get big profits from crypto investment if we have no significant changes in prices. So, every person who has crypto coins should really care about bear-bull market.



Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Yamifoud on August 20, 2022, 11:43:47 PM
Op, if i am to answer your question directly, I will tell you that traders care much about the bear and bull markets. It is not only the traders that care about the bear and bull. Also ordinary investors who do not sell in short time care about bear and bull markets.
Everyone cares about bear-bull market since it has a big role to influence the prices of crypto market. If we have no bear-bull market periods, we have no significant changes in crypto prices. It means we can't get big profits from crypto investment if we have no significant changes in prices. So, every person who has crypto coins should really care about bear-bull market.


Perhaps, the market price really matters when you are in trading. However, traders will still make benefit from the volatility of the market despite any market condition as they still have the chance to earn a few bucks out from a roller coaster trend. I'd see their roles in the market and these traders help to keep the market alive as they actively do buy and sell making the price move. Their continuous participation despite the risk they face, it gives an absolute impact on the price.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: AmoreJaz on August 21, 2022, 11:39:10 PM
Op, if i am to answer your question directly, I will tell you that traders care much about the bear and bull markets. It is not only the traders that care about the bear and bull. Also ordinary investors who do not sell in short time care about bear and bull markets.
Everyone cares about bear-bull market since it has a big role to influence the prices of crypto market. If we have no bear-bull market periods, we have no significant changes in crypto prices. It means we can't get big profits from crypto investment if we have no significant changes in prices. So, every person who has crypto coins should really care about bear-bull market.

Perhaps, the market price really matters when you are in trading. However, traders will still make benefit from the volatility of the market despite any market condition as they still have the chance to earn a few bucks out from a roller coaster trend. I'd see their roles in the market and these traders help to keep the market alive as they actively do buy and sell making the price move. Their continuous participation despite the risk they face, it gives an absolute impact on the price.

for real traders, the market condition doesn't affect their activities. because if they are active in trading, they know how to attack the market to gain profits even in the most challenging periods in crypto. this is where they have their adrenaline rush and take advantage of what other people are not seeing. so bearish or bullish, it doesn't matter to these traders. as long as they can get profit out of the market, they will continue their journey.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Alisha-k on August 22, 2022, 03:50:22 AM
-Is anyone here still trading actively? if yes, what has your strategy been?
At this point i can't actively trade and won't advice anyone to. One thing about strategies is that it best when a trend is defined. Once a trader can state the current trend of the market it will be easier to deploy strategies that will suit the trend but in reverse cases where nothing is clear enough avoiding the market will be safer because even scalping might not be an option in this case


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Fredomago on August 22, 2022, 04:20:24 AM
Op, if i am to answer your question directly, I will tell you that traders care much about the bear and bull markets. It is not only the traders that care about the bear and bull. Also ordinary investors who do not sell in short time care about bear and bull markets.
Everyone cares about bear-bull market since it has a big role to influence the prices of crypto market. If we have no bear-bull market periods, we have no significant changes in crypto prices. It means we can't get big profits from crypto investment if we have no significant changes in prices. So, every person who has crypto coins should really care about bear-bull market.

Perhaps, the market price really matters when you are in trading. However, traders will still make benefit from the volatility of the market despite any market condition as they still have the chance to earn a few bucks out from a roller coaster trend. I'd see their roles in the market and these traders help to keep the market alive as they actively do buy and sell making the price move. Their continuous participation despite the risk they face, it gives an absolute impact on the price.

for real traders, the market condition doesn't affect their activities. because if they are active in trading, they know how to attack the market to gain profits even in the most challenging periods in crypto. this is where they have their adrenaline rush and take advantage of what other people are not seeing. so bearish or bullish, it doesn't matter to these traders. as long as they can get profit out of the market, they will continue their journey.

I agree to that, real traders balance the situation according to how they can gain profits, either bull or bear there are still opportunities that they can maximize to continue doing business, most of the time scalping is something that very useful as fluctuation can bring quick result when placing your buy and your sell orders.

It's a matter of how good the traders anticipate the next market movement. It's not easy, but there are many traders who keep on adjusting according to how the market behaves and they continue to manage to earn decently.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: BobK71 on August 22, 2022, 07:02:30 PM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

A trader will never quit a trade if he can make a profit. In any situation he wants to continue its activities. And it is difficult to say how much hard work and dedication one has to do to become a good trader. Remember a good trader is not built in a day. He has to go through various adverse conditions for a long time. A real trader can make his profit from bull market or bear market that is not any fact. The fact is the knowledge.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on August 24, 2022, 07:27:52 PM
My answers itheres no. There are people trading everyday im the moment and making money out of it, traders don't care where BTC will be in future, all they care is how they can make a few percent everyday and put it in their bank. Think of it like a day job, holding anything is a mindset of investors not day traders.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: harizen on August 24, 2022, 08:27:40 PM

As far as the first statement by OP is concerned, for me there's no period where can say that most traders are playing safe. Regardless of the trend, trading will always be active and that's the reason why we are seeing price swings even amid during the bearish market.

Although not applicable at most coins as each have different market behavior still, we can always make profit either in bull run or bear run.

Traders just won't stop regardless of the trend as they already used on seeing the market in different trend.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 24, 2022, 09:19:44 PM
My answers itheres no. There are people trading everyday im the moment and making money out of it, traders don't care where BTC will be in future, all they care is how they can make a few percent everyday and put it in their bank. Think of it like a day job, holding anything is a mindset of investors not day traders.
It's always a no, trade can be done whenever you want as long as the market is open. Unlike stocks and other traditional market that only operates within a specific period of time, weekdays specifically, crypto on the other hand is currently trade 24/7. A crypto day trader, no matter what the market is will always do what he does.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Russlenat on August 24, 2022, 09:38:20 PM
I'm not much into Trading, but it looks like real traders always have their mind prepared for the best outcome unlike the market trend. Whether the market is bullish/bearish they try to make an earning out of the market fluctuation. This makes them to stand away from the normal traders. Even here they experience losses, but have got the tactics to overcome the same.
The pros in trading can always find ways to make profits in trading regardless of the market condition. However, I believe they can only start to maximize their profits if the market is good and is definitely stable, particularly when the market is bullish. Just like regular traders, profits will be easily achieved when the market is fine and stable, but it takes pro traders if you aim for maximum profits even where bear season is still around.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 24, 2022, 09:43:25 PM
My answers itheres no. There are people trading everyday im the moment and making money out of it, traders don't care where BTC will be in future, all they care is how they can make a few percent everyday and put it in their bank. Think of it like a day job, holding anything is a mindset of investors not day traders.
It's always a no, trade can be done whenever you want as long as the market is open. Unlike stocks and other traditional market that only operates within a specific period of time, weekdays specifically, crypto on the other hand is currently trade 24/7. A crypto day trader, no matter what the market is will always do what he does.
It do talks about bear or bull market condition and not on the opening of the market which we do usually can be seen on stocks or forex.If we do talk about bear/bull markets then it would really be needing that

versatility of a certain trader whether they would be making out some action or would just simply wait for some opportunity to get in.This is actually do depends on someones skills and knowledge towards the market.

Do they really care? It does depend on your capability since not all are really that good when it comes to trading decisions.Some are good and some arent really that good.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Sanitough on August 24, 2022, 09:43:45 PM
I do not know what a "real" trader means, I mean I do trades, I am usually a long term investor but I do have a few trades per week, just when I think things are looking like prime to buy and sell. Does this market impact me? Of course it does, and it doesn't really feel like it is a special situation that only I feel, it must be something that everyone is feeling.

By "caring" do we mean that we stop or something? Because we do not stop but we do not like it neither. It's best if we could have a bull market because in that market everyone wins, but just because we are in bear market doesn't mean that we have to run away and hide and not do anything at all.
There are always opportunities to make profits both in bear and bull market, but you have to be an experienced trader for you to see every opportunity that comes. However, in my years of trading and long term hodling, best profits will always be possible when there is bullish season as we always know that bull market always create possible profits into reality.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: rhomelmabini on August 25, 2022, 04:58:44 AM
My answers itheres no. There are people trading everyday im the moment and making money out of it, traders don't care where BTC will be in future, all they care is how they can make a few percent everyday and put it in their bank. Think of it like a day job, holding anything is a mindset of investors not day traders.
It's always a no, trade can be done whenever you want as long as the market is open. Unlike stocks and other traditional market that only operates within a specific period of time, weekdays specifically, crypto on the other hand is currently trade 24/7. A crypto day trader, no matter what the market is will always do what he does.
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Do they really care? It does depend on your capability since not all are really that good when it comes to trading decisions.Some are good and some arent really that good.
I certainly know that and yes if we're really talking about people who make their job as a trader, it always depends on when they'll timing the market. I think only a handful of traders nowadays can do it and are seemingly good. I mean, if I do this kind of craft, I will not care at all too but I will be up for a timing that's certainly good for a trade not just rushing things and yes, have a trading plan too.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Reatim on August 26, 2022, 05:15:41 AM
I came across a trader today who mentioned that he hasn't stopped trading even in this period where almost everyone, trader and hodler is trying playing it safe. In our little conversation, one of the statement he used that has stuck to memory and has kept me wondering if I was making the right decision this period playing it safe and not trading was "Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

A trader will never quit a trade if he can make a profit. In any situation he wants to continue its activities.
a true trader is not only relying when earning but also considering the deliveries of losses , because trading is some kind of gambling that we cannot take all gaining but sometime experience and be ready in losing.
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And it is difficult to say how much hard work and dedication one has to do to become a good trader.
if you love your money? then you know that it needed to dedicate time and learn to keep your funds safe mate.
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Remember a good trader is not built in a day. He has to go through various adverse conditions for a long time. A real trader can make his profit from bull market or bear market that is not any fact. The fact is the knowledge.
that is also why being a trader needs a lot of responsibilities and knowledge , maybe  we must put more time and effort to be successful traders.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Mauser on August 27, 2022, 07:26:12 AM
"Real traders don't care about bear or bull market, during times like this is when real traders survive", he also highlighted that a good day trading strategy can still make you profit this season.

The crypto markets are very volatile at the moment, we are seeing bitcoins change a few percent up or down in a less than a week. This volatility is a good thing for day traders who can take advantage of it. The higher the spread between bid and ask, and the higher the price fluctuations the more opportunities for a trader to make money. But this is only true for the best of the best traders. It's not like that everybody can take use the right trading signals and make a lot of money. The high volatility also means that the risk of losing money is much higher if you take the wrong side of the trade. A trader that uses long and short positions can make a profit in any market environment. It comes down to how profitable you can be. I tried myself day trading a few times in the past and found that the amount of time I need to invest to make a profit is not really worth it. Spending hours each day to try and find an edge for a small profit had a big impact on my normal job and my family life. 


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Anguwa on August 29, 2022, 09:44:00 AM
Good traders always take advantage of any market conditions they encounter, because even during a bear market, experienced traders know how to trade and profit from it, implying that market conditions do not determine whether or not to trade. Holders were always affected by the market situation, that is, if they buy at a very high price, but with patience it will come to pass if you invest in a very good project.


Title: Re: Do real traders care about bear & bull market?
Post by: Memorabilia on August 30, 2022, 04:47:08 AM
Nope! Bear or bull, they care about the opportunity. If they see a good one, they ensure that they make the best of the situation.