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Let's make a prediction that whether BTC will hit 45k again.

My prediction for BTC reaching 45k before this end is yes, it will hit at least 40k if not 45k.

I also think it's the best time to buy btc considering you'll get a chance to enter at a good price rather than complaining later on that you missed the "TOO THAA MOON"

That's the case at most times, no issues having predictions that it should be back at those high prices. My prediction is that we might see it hard for it to come back at $30k for this year. But everything's going to be good again when we're close to the halving.

If it's low to the price that you want to have it, that's the best time to buy it. No regrets, no reasons when we miss the buying opportunity because if we miss it, it's all our fault for not buying when it's low.

if we look at the history of the 4-year cycle, of course we need to wait a few more years from now on, but if we look at the history of the annual cycle, actually the bitcoin price charts are the same as last year where the end of the year experienced an increase, that's what I learned from several threads on this forum about analysis. bitcoin price

If its the cycle that we are to base our prediction, 45K is just not possible because we have a 2 more years before the halving.  2 more years to endure since we are  out of options but to wait.

There are just too many resistance level before we could go back to that bullish numbers.  Just wish you wouldn't have to sell your BTC to pay your electricity bill.

We might not see that price again this year, considering the current trend of Bitcoin it looks like they will stay below $30k this year and it’s good if we can end this year the price of $25k. Well, you have to watch the price trend maybe good news will come in right before the year end, and that could be enough to boost the price of Bitcoin again, but without any good news this is too impossible to happen.

For now it is predicted to stay bearish for long term. Only if the market trend makes a transition we can think of a price above $30k. The price of bitcoin is well connected to the demand to the supply availability. Right now there is Whale accumulation and not much of buying from the common people.

From the price around $20k it needs to gain resistance to cross several price barriers withstand support and reaching $45k won't happen within this year. Same time the market is different from the traditional market, so things can change in no time. Lets prepare for the worse and only then it is possible to benefit if unexpected bullish/bearish move happens.

I support your prediction for many reasons, i see many people are started to buy bitcoin and save every bucks of it most of us believe there will be a big pump soon and the end of the year is 3 months from now, if we see the history of bitcoin it’s could move from both directions in short time. Too the moon is coming for sure

I am rooting for at least 50k before December ends , yeah there are so tin possibilities but I never lose my ways of believing .
bitcoin will always get its way up but of course there are some hindrances along the way that will matter to reject the said pump  but whether it happens or not? I will keep holding my coins until it reaches that amount.
yeah that is my selling point 50k and above because I happen to buy back when the price is at 17k and that value is much 200% profit for me.

Even if I would like for the price to reach that level, when I look at everything I know about this market and how it moves and the conditions we are facing I do not really see how we are going to reach that price this year, I simply do not see enough interest in bitcoin so it will more than double its current price in less than four months, during a bull run this will be completely possible but during a bear market this becomes almost impossible.

Not sure to reach $45K by year-end with the unstable world economy people will need large withdrawals to support needs. But anything can happen, nothing is possible. It's just that to reach $45K end of the year while Bitcoin is now trading at $19K - $20K and if the end of the year has to break above $40K then a 100% increase would need a big push. While holders prefer to keep them in their wallets and not transfer to exchanges or p2p then it won't happen at the end of the year to get above $45K.

unfortunately I don't own bitcoin and only hold a few altcoins, but my altcoins will also go up if the bitcoin price goes up and goes back into a bull market, so I won't sell them until our market really enters a bull market

Most of the altcoins are in sync with the price of Bitcoin.
I've seen apeswap's banana price moving in parallel with the bitcoin and a few more; not sure if every altcoin behaves like this, but the majority follows the bitcoin during pumps or dumps.

I am expecting it will happen months before the next bitcoin block halving which is expected in the year 2024.
That's why I am still not satisfied with current price of Bitcoin right now to reach on those level, the best thing to do these days is to accumulate cheap bitcoins, like doing the Dollar-Cost-Averaging (DCA) method.

Hey mate, no one has seemed to notice this but you made the thread in the wrong section of the forum, this is an altcoin speculation board and your topic is about Bitcoin so I advise you to move the thread to the right section.

Back to the topic, Bitcoin speculation is the hardest thing to do in the cryptocurrency market as Bitcoin is highly volatile and predicts Bitcoin's future prices. But 45k in this year is not a big lip for Bitcoin as we have seen from Bitcoin's track record of past growth after each deadly deep such as this one right now.

When I look at the general trend and consider the four-year cycle, I don't think it will reach $30,000 by the end of the year. I think there is another 1-2 years for the price of Bitcoin to move again. But you know, even though all the parameters and global processes show that there will be no such rise at the moment, it is always necessary to be prepared for surprises. The question I'm really wondering is, have we seen the bottom in Bitcoin or will we still see one last bottom?

Market conditions isn't that good yet now . There is still many recovery and resistance need . There is a no question about the bitcoin price will hit the 45k . But I don't think it could be possible this year. If you notice recently the cryptomarket has been in a good decline.  Since then, there has not been any positive from the entire market, rather the market's trade volume has decreased.  So I think Bitcoin will not reach 45k by the end of this year if the market conditions are good, hopefully the market will pump again in late 2023 or 24.

If you follow the 4 year pattern then the next bull should come in the year of 2025. We almost cleared out the first year so another 3 years is going to be the next. That's going to be a long wait but that shouldn't discourage us because like you said, there might still be surprises that can occur so it's always better to be prepared by having some coins on your side.

You can still buy now if you don't have anything yet since the price was dipped again by some percent. This is a better buying opportunity than last week where the price of btc is above 21k. For the bottom part. I think we already have one before but there might be another new one later on.

I don't think Bitcoin will hit $45K by the end of the year.  I think it's even likely that it will be lower than it is today when the ball drops.  As much as everyone is calling for new all time highs, we're all at the mercy of the 4 year cycle.  I could see us possibly hopping up to the $30K range before another consolidation period, but $45K is a tall ask with the ETH 2.0 coins about to be unlocked and mtgox making progress on their refund situation.

What are the reasons why BTC price to increase above $40k this year?
In my opinion, the possible highest price of Bitcoin at the end of this year may be around $25k - $30k. But it is also possible to drop $15k - $18k. Whether it will increase or drop, depends on the issues on Bitcoin or crypto in the next 2-3 months (Q4 of 2022). The current price of Bitcoin is around $19k, it has a big gap between $19k and $40k, I am pessimistic it will be achieved in 2-3 months.

No huge reason for bitcoin to pump and to many threats which can cause dumps like crisis still occuring around the world so I must say that provably we can see more dump to come rather than seeing a huge pump(bull run). And I also guess that we will be playing at the figure you given since this is what bitcoin movements at the moment.

I would be very happy if it was true that Bitcoin could reach a price of $45k by the end of this year. Moreover, I already have quite a lot of Bitcoin
which I have collected since the bear market occurred this year. So I can sell some of my Bitcoins if it's true that Bitcoin reaches $45k by the end of
this year. I also have confidence that Bitcoin will start to recover near the end of the year and hopefully your predictions come true. But we also
have to think about the worst case scenario that will happen, Bitcoin could move further down towards the end of the year. Because as we all know
the movement of Bitcoin is very unpredictable and very volatile, so anything is possible. But if Bitcoin does not move according to our expectations,
we should stay calm and don't panic, we just need to hold the Bitcoin we have until the price recovers.

I think Bitcoin will rarely cross $30k  this year.  There is yet any good news or upcoming good news that will push the price of bitcoin, or create a hype or good sentiment that will trigger new investors to jump into the Bitcoin wagon.



Bearish time is always the best time to buy Bitcoin since we are able to enter the Bitcoin market at a greatly lowered price compared to its ATH.

One thing that im pretty sure about is that the current flash drop are to prepare the coming skyrocketed price , a bounce back is almost guaranteed will do happens as per end of year cycle it's almost always like that .. that's the basic rule that everyone knew about.

Moreover simply think about how every time the price spike high there always a time like these bearish trap , so just prepare yourself as $45k are a reasonable target.

Bitcoin is still attainable when there is huge news that will positively impact the growth of bitcoin and more importantly if inflation subsides and the world economy starts to recover, then the possibility that OP mentioned is possible.

But that's just an assumption, recently, the Fed Chairman also emphasized that they will continue to raise interest rates even at high levels to bring inflation down quickly. With this news, I would be more pessimistic than optimistic for the market in the fourth quarter. The market is more likely to fall than to grow.

Actually when Bitcoin is experiencing downfall it's when the investment is supposed to be ready to pertake. Because cryptocurrency is the kinds of currency you can not directly predict the price regulations or rotation. I believe that the price will increase and i dont assume because i don't know the exact period the event of it's acceleration will take place.

No.

I believe that what happened in 2018 will happen this year as well. On that year, it went down, and it remained stagnant for the rest of the year, and we only saw Bitcoin starting to rise the next year. I believe that it will be the same this year because markets have cyclical movement. Federal Reserve is planning to increase the interest rates until the end of the year as well and as we all know, Fed's moves regarding interest rates often is a sign of a negativity to the markets so yeah, I don't expect Bitcoin will reach $45,000 or even $35,000 this year. When the Fed stop increasing interest rates then we might see some good signs that will make Bitcoin's price go high.

What I expect and my prediction is that Bitcoin will remain sideways for the rest of the year between the $20,000 and the $30,000 price range. We might see a false breakout between the 2 prices either going down below $20,000 or going higher than $30,000 but after a few days it will go to that price range again. It's better to accumulate this year if you are a long-term holder.

I see it as a fairly optimistic prediction for the macroeconomic situation in the world. I tend to think quite probabilistically, and that scenario, while plausible, I think is one of the best possible scenarios we could have. I think the normal scenario is that we will stay pretty flat and at best get to $30 0 $35k. There is less and less money in circulation and less and less credit. And that means less money to buy Bitcoin.

I agree with you.  The situation of market is very bad now due to the price of Bitcoin being dumped, the price of all coins has dropped a lot. I think that many people have lost a lot in this market. Markorket may be okay next year.  If the price of Bitcoin increases, the price of all coins will increase as before.  We have to wait for him for a long time.

The crypto market has been negatively affected by several incidents. Events such as the Russia Ukraine war and the role of the Fed as well as MT Gox's BTC return are prolonging crypto winter. Moreover, only a few months are left for this year to end. Given its current state, I don't think BTC is likely to hit $45k soon.

If you follow the market, then you can see that we are far from any serious bull run, and that even $25 000 was a serious obstacle that we bounced back from. Small investors are under the increasing impact of inflation, and the big ones are quite cautious and are looking for some much safer investments than Bitcoin.

Expecting a 100% price increase is too optimistic at this moment, and something extremely positive would really have to happen for that to happen. I don't know if Mr. Mars has some plans to buy BTC again and thus bring a little excitement to the market again, or maybe rely on our local magician (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412147.0) from the forum who says that he can push the price exactly in the direction you imagined ::)

I would prefer call the current situation as a bear trap.

More than 60% of the recent news and reports is about how bitcoin price would collapse , mt gox take the biggest influence to every trader / holder on how they decide whether to buy more or sell it off.
I myself keeping the bags loded with fresh mined bitcoin , the target price of $45k seems not makes sense for most people but you need to remember that bitcoin always against the odds! Remember that.

That's possible, however in past we've been in the same place and bitcoin broke through every dump and bull run was huge.
I'm positive that bitcoin will be able to do the same again, I'm buying bullish on btc for long run.


Well, yes if you follow the technical indicators then crossing 25K mark is huge. I should have made the title let's gamble the price if bitcoin will cross 45k mark again like before.

I've made at least 40% in an IOTA- BTC trade back in 2017-2018.

annual situation about bitcoin , but our readiness needs in this place , we must be aware of what will come and what will happen to your investments , if you are not ready to lose then never sell or never invest at all.
in what reason that this will be our reasonable target mate? the amount is high considering that the recent ATH is 68k and that is close to that price.

$45k from now will be more than double its current price from its current $20k. I don't know whether to say it's a tall order or not as I've seen Bitcoin surpass that range within a few days. We're more than 90 days away to the end of the year, as it's. I would've written the possibility off if we were done with November which is a favourable month for Bitcoin from my observation. November is still a long stretch with more than 50 days to it. I hope price begins to soar this last quarters of the year. Until then, I remain optimistic.

I don’t think BTC gonna touch 45k usd by the end of this year.
I mean currently we can see how BTC is struggling to get over 20k usd. So in the 3 months it’s really hard to get doubled in price.
Yes BTC will still try hard to break this 25k usd resistance and will surely like to main above 35k usd.
Big whales have also predicted about same. But still we can’t say anything when it’s about BTC.
Let’s see when our hopes are getting into reality.

I don't think so that we could reclaim 45k this year, what I do think in my own opinion is $39k-$40k price levels and either get another dump from there, maybe the last dump to $12k -$10k level towards December - January which we have been waiting for and this will only happen if we tap into $18k-$17k zone and have a bounce, else Year 2023 is when we could see $45k price level again because failure to hold that $17k price level mean more dump on the way.

I don't know how much bitcoin will increase so far it's clear we are struggling to move and stuck in 20k below maybe this is still a prolonged bearish stage until the end of the year maybe.
I've seen some charts from an expert (you could say that) and it says this year won't be as strong at 40k I guess it's fixed because now there's a lot of inflation going on so it probably won't go up so fast.

People know how they raise bitcoins early maybe when prices are still cheap isn't this the right time?
But I have improved in my DCA so this strategy is good what I do.

Will BTC reach the $45K price before this year's end? My answer is capital "No".
Yes, the Q4 is still far to conclude the Bitcoin market's next momentum and yes the month of November, is usually show positive sign for the crypto market but we're in market correction season not bullish.
Therefore the chance of BTC reaching the said price is 25% and it's not a matter of not being optimistic about the market but a matter of the market 4 years cycle activities.

This industry has taught me a few things. One of which is never to state speculated price with certitude. When it comes to cryptos, never say never! I think that even cuts across all trading engagements, whether with Forex trading, Binary Options or Stocks. It boils down to speculation and price can head any direction the forces of the market move it to.

I don't expect to hit BTC at $45k at the end of this year. It seems to me that this will not happen for the reason that the cryptomarket is still very far from the beginning of the growth cycle. According to my modest assumptions, the exchange rate of the bitcoin will fluctuate approximately at the same level and we will not see a significant increase in 2 times from the current price. At least in the coming months. OP may have other predictions, but in fact, this doesn't change anything. Regardless of our expectations, btc price will be what it will be.

I do not believe Bitcoin can reach $45k by the end of 2022, I actually believe that Bitcoin will fall below $15k by the end of 2022, indeed there are various speculations popping up on the internet today regarding Bitcoin predictions in 2022 & 2023.

For me, my Bitcoin price is sticking to the experience after and before the Bitcoin halving, once every four years from 2017 & 2020, that's an example I see, but all of us have different beliefs and principles regarding current and future Bitcoin speculation, basically.

I like you're prediction, mine is personally around $50K if $17.5K is the low. Or specifically, the 0.618 fib retracement level, ie a similar move to 2019 when price retraced back to $14K within months of the low. If price drops down to $12K to $14K levels, like many are still anticipating and remains more than possible, then I agree with ~$45K as this would then be the anticipated retracement for a dead cat bounce.

I'd like to also point out that Bitcoin's dominance continues to collapse, despite the bear market, highlighting the wreck-less speculation that continues in the altcoin market. A move back to $30K to $40K would merely be the dead cat bounce from fiat buyers, but the move to $50K, even $60K, would likely be the liquidity from altcoins coming back into Bitcoin, exactly like in 2019 when altcoins got rekt.

Though I won't bet that never happens as I love it too to reach that price but as I look into the market situation, I was sure that this bear season will stay long, until the end of this year. This is the reason why that $45k is not really possible, I predicted that it will only reach $30k during this BER months.

To the MOON yeah! Something we miss but it looks like it was impossible this time. Well, of course, it certainly will come after halving and that probably 2-3 years from now.

It's really hard to see the way the price is moving currently, the price goes down hard in it's support of $20k. Most likely we might hit another lower lows if we broken $18k this week because obviously, $17k is on the horizon and it's hard to see where it is going to settle or at least when the bleeding stops. I want to think that we can still hit $40k at the end of the year but chances are very slim at this point.

If so, this is a good time to buy more bitcoins with the current bitcoin price. But even though the price of $45k is set to hit in the next year, it's better to buy bitcoins before they start rising and rallying. But I'm also not willing to bet because I see that it's not easy to say that the bitcoin price will reach $45k by the end of this year or next year because the current bitcoin price is more difficult to analyze. The bear market itself might last longer as @Kelvinid said, but hopefully, things will turn around this month, next month, or before the end of this year.

Many are waiting for an uptrend movement where the market is going from deep to deeper. On the other hand $45K which may not be possible without bull market. I think Bitcoin has a few steps before it hits $45k. If the price overcome the steps, maybe something positive can be expected from there. I think the first step is that BTC must have to reach the price of $26k price range. After that, if the price of BTC rises to $31k and $40k levels respectively, it can reach $45k as well. And these things can be done within this year? I don't think so. So we have to wait longer.

I'm glad you remain optimistic about the future of Bitcoin, because indeed we should not be too pessimistic by seeing the price of Bitcoin decline
to the price of $ 18k. Moreover, this year there are still about 3 months left for Bitcoin to prove that Bitcoin will recover and touch the price of $45k
before the end of this year. We know Bitcoin can always recover no matter how deep its price drops, so we also have to be optimistic that in the remaining
3 months of this year Bitcoin can show a miracle by rising again to reach the price of $45k, and the possibility that it could happen.

Therefore most importantly I hope that in the near future Bitcoin will not fall below $18k. Because if Bitcoin falls below $18k in the near future,
I'm afraid there will be a panic and make the chances of Bitcoin reaching $45k before the end of the year is getting smaller. That's why now we should
buy Bitcoin again gradually. If in this situation a lot of people are buying Bitcoin, this will help Bitcoin recover faster and it is possible that Bitcoin price
could reach $45k before the end of this year.

True, I mean being optimistic about the future is a great quality to have but at the same time people need to be realistic as well about their predictions about the market, because if they are not and they let that optimistic attitude to dominate them then they will make predictions that are simply impossible for bitcoin to live up to, and then they will become more and more disappointed with the market to the point they could sell their coins before the bull market comes.

I understand your point due to the nature of the crypto market because the market can pose a momentum price different from the predicted price and when looking carefully at what could cause the change there will be nothing tangible that trigger the change. But despite that, we shouldn't ignore something that's like the crypto market tradition which I believe is the 4 years cycle and mining difficulty that always determine the price of the Bitcoin market.

One of the things I try to avoid is to speculate the price of Bitcoin, because that is a depressing adventure but the possibility of Bitcoin reaching $45k before the end of the year 2022 as the available data point to that direction even though the present price is at 19k struggling to reclaim back to 20k at the moment.

We have 3 months to go in this leg before the end of 2022 but Bitcoin move in a double x speed when making price movements, in whatever direction, you can study Bitcoin's previous chart to tractions of how Bitcoin has acted in its price.

I am merely looking at halving tracker to predict/guess where Bitcoin price can be at this year. So I feel like we will start returning back at somewhere between 10 to 15 thousand dollar a Bitcoin. And I think we will hit somewhere around 35 to 50 thousand dollar a Bitcoin just before the end of year. We are experiencing nice bear market now - if it can last a bit longer, return will be even more powerful than most expected.

As investors we must be optimistic that Bitcoin is immediately rising, as happened with luncak that continues to skyrocket and has now been ranked 24th with marketcap of more than $ 3.5 billion, although currently it sounds impossible but I am optimistic that the price of $ 45K can be achieved in 2022.

I agree we have to stay optimistic and keep believing bitcoin can rise again high.
Only a matter of time will show us that bitcoin will start to get its best time to increase.
Right now, we can buy it at a low price and don't waste it because we probably won't see it in the future.
Before things start to change, we have to use it to our advantage because we never know when the price will start to increase.

I hope it does, I mean there isn't a proper reason for it not to be 45k by the end of the year, doesn't mean it will be but it means it could be. People need to trust bitcoin once more and end up buying as much as they can, remember all those bull times when the price goes up super high, and that's the type of thing we need once again.

During the bull times people spend billions together to buy bitcoin and another billions for those altcoins, that means the price goes up super high, but during bear nobody wants to be the first ones to do it, if some people are convinced that it will go up, then it could light the fire and we could be 45k by the end of the year.

$30K a price I think might be the case. I still don't see any signs of a price revival as expected. The price of Bitcoin in the market is currently heading towards $21K but I think that the price is not strong enough to hold on even though a jump could happen at any time. Bitcoin recorded an increase of 8% as I write this, of course the hope that it can continue to go without stopping. While Ethereum is also following the movement of Bitcoin.

We're not talking about optimism or pessimism, but it is about the possibility of Bitcoin price at the end of this year.
OP @worldofcoins believes BTC will reach $40k - $45k before the end of this year, but it seems hard to happen. The current price of BTC is around $19k - $21k, it is only a half of $40k - $45k. The gap is around $20k, it won't be easy to achieve less than 4 months. Especially, we are in the bearish season, we rarely saw Bitcoin price can increase very signifincantly. So, personally, I conclude that it is impossible to happen.

It is already rising 10+% now.
But it is impossible to expect a continuous rise without stopping.
After a pump, there should be followed by a dump. Moreover, during this bearish, we more often saw a dump than a pump.

I'm buying BTC currently but I don't think it will reach the 45k mark before this year ends. There are many news that is against bitcoin and we are currently on a bearish market that could last up till next years so I don't think it's a wise thing to assume that bitcoin will hit 45k again this year. In the future, It's very possible like what bitcoin did last bull market, It penetrated resistance easily. This is why buying BTC in our current market cycle is a good thing to do.

Buying at the bear market is always been the best strategy, although it's currently pumping from $18k-$21k as of the moment, it won't go to the moon or at least hit $45k this year.

The money is not there, and obviously, investors don't want to put their money because of the bearish trend. However, it doesn't mean that we will continue to see the market always in red or in this cycle. Sooner or later that $45k will be breach but not this year.

$45K is possible, but it might be hard if there isn't some hype that actually helps. So far bitcoin has struggled to break through $30K again especially after the price has dropped to $17.7K, so I guess it will take a long time until next year to hit $45K again. Now the gains feel good enough, but this is a bounce that isn't too big compared to the percentage declines so far.

I think we will close the year under $40K, it could be anywhere from $30K to $35K.

You might be right about your predictions looking forward with all technical analysis also from previous market circling it may take another 2 years or after the next bitcoin halving few months ahead then we would experience another massive bull which might probably hit $80k to $100k.
Although it's very hard to predict how and what would happen next.

If we try to look at the statistic of growth each bitcoin cycle could bring every halving we can safe to say that $80k - $100k is much reachable. But lets do hope we cannot see a huge upset because for past years halving brought good price action so hopefully it will be the same scenario when this one came for another round in future.

We always see the previous cycle that after the bitcoin halving the growth is good I also believe in this cycle before it was ATH $ 69k then the next 100k is very possible even though this is beyond reason who don't know but the future has always been the dream of many investors that those increases will always occur with the cycle to come, so be quite optimistic and confident in bitcoin's next growth.

I always think long about how the future of bitcoin will continue to grow, the fact is that in 5 or 10 years the price will continue to rise over time that will develop.

Many people thought that we could have reached six figures during the previous bull run, but it didn't happen and a great deal of people were disappointed by this, however I really think too much about it because even if we didn't reach that goal it is incredibly likely that we are going to do so during the next bull run, and the only thing that we need to do is to wait until it comes, for people that have been here for long enough this is not going to be too much for problem, but for those which are experimenting their first crypto winter this can be quite difficult, but if they want to obtain profits there is no other way but to hold their coins until the bull market comes.

The last quarter of the year is always the best time of the year since it will be the start of the bullish season. But I’m quite doubtful this year if bitcoin can make it since the bear market looks like it will be here for long. However, with bitcoin everything is still possible. My own prediction is it will still come up with a good price increase but I don’t see it reaching $45k or above.

That first place is the main reason why bitcoin is not making me nervous. I mean it is still the best coin out there and it will stay being the best coin ever for a very long time. Just focus on the fact that crypto is not as a whole one thing, there are many parts in it and you will realize the importance as well.

Bitcoin and all others can't be totaled into just "crypto" and be considered the same thing, shiba and bitcoin is not the same, floki and bitcoin is not, there are thousands of things that is not similar. I feel like ETH is trying to take that spot, but nobody else is even getting close to bitcoin these days and doubt would ever do.

I don't agree with you. to reach a price of $40k means the price of bitcoin must increase 100% from its current price.  without big news it seems difficult for bitcoin to reach that price and I think until the end of the year there will be no news that can make the price of bitcoin go up to 100%.
but I agree with you that now is the best time to buy.

Possibly, Bitcoin could indeed increase again in three months or within this year. But it will not always be the same as last year because every increase in the price of Bitcoin is always based on an increase in the number of purchases or an increase in the volume of demand that becomes higher.
So it's not about a good end of the year, but also about a greater number of purchases in the market.

I like the optimism but this kind of prediction was done when Bitcoin isn't dropping yet and that's during the bull run. For now, we are already in a bearish market all prediction about pumping are merely speculation that would happen soon but only when Bitcoin market is in bullish.

Sure, $45k will be a happy price for some but you can't force people to dump just so you think the market would pump. It's not like that and think people are already learning their past mistakes when they sold their BTC during the bear market in the past.

$45k may not be impossible to achieve only if the bear market position is over. Especially that we are always looking forward for every last quarter of the year to start seeing bull run and influence the market value. Though it’s hard to see significant price increase because of the current bear market condition, but we know that bitcoin always surprise us with reaching new heights as with bitcoin, things are most likely become possible.

I would not guess on 45k this year mostly for the reason of momentum, to have this price it requires the complete opposite in a relatively short time period; this is excessive volatility that is some way destructive reflecting increasing instability.     We are far more likely to observe regular sustained gains over a period of time that eventually accumulates to a high target such as 45k, that is possible and actually far more positive.
  We are at the 50 day average right now and in future might challenge then 200 day which is 30k only , both those measures reflect prior selling if price action sustains long enough positively we can then ascend.  This turn around will represent momentum in price action, 50 day is flat but 200 day is descending every day and will keep doing so.
   Theres a bigger fight beyond what is immediately visible, we have to wait for these larger measures to turn around before hoping for the much higher prices to be within feasible grasp.

It is possible but not sure it will go up to 40k$ again, most of the time bitcoin will rise at the end of the year until the first quarter of the next year so in my part i also believe that btc will rise again at the end of the year but i cant predict what was the exact price. This was based on my own research from the past few years.

we have a Run since yesterday but I don't think that this is enough for us to see that 45k before this year end though i have a feeling that before the December come or at least ends? we will see more of this increase and will see that it grows .
OP is asking about 45k and not 40k mate though that level seems to be passable comparing to that 45k .

I think bitcoin will have a bit of a hard time hitting the $40k-$45k level by the end of the year, as now the Federal Reserve plans to keep raising interest rates into next year to prevent a rise in global inflation, so there probably won't be any significant price movement for bitcoin until the end year.
More info on FED planning: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/07/market-bracing-for-another-three-quarter-point-hike-from-the-fed-this-month.html

If you are planning to make bitcoin a long term investment destination, then capitalizing on buying whenever there is a downturn is certainly the right momentum for us as we will see an increase in our portfolio when the bull market comes and will provide huge returns by bitcoin.

Normally, there is no RIGHT prediction though, so every prediction is wrong, not certain and just mere guess base on the past and present price analysis and sentiments.



Again, no predictions were RIGHT. So, yeah you gotta believe on your own prediction and market analysis rather than the others.
There were a lot of so called financial experts who's sharing their sentiments and predictions, some have believed them, but no they are always wrong eventually.
After all of the shared bearish and bullish predictions on the internet, they are all after profits and they are sharing these thoughts for their all personal gains.

Those experts have no idea what they are talking about, the yare just making up some stuff along the way and hope that they would become right. The reality is that we should not trust anyone, not experts, not KOL's, not influencers, do not trust anyone but yourself because you are the only person who has your own best interest at heart. Some of these people are even getting paid to promote things and we know this, how could I trust a person who got paid to promote something?

It is clear that they do not believe in the project at all and just want to make money. Some are acting as bitcoin experts to get more famous and they just care about their own fame and reputation too, which is a big problem as well.

Actually nobody do accept general prediction, because it's very hard before can release information that will make another person to be profitable. What i do expect people to do is that they supposed to know that prediction of bitcoin price has failed us in different times, so we should believe on personal understanding of the chart we do use to observe when the price of bitcoin is increasing or falling because depending on numerous fake prediction will mislead many of us.

The market is open for predictions and people find make their own prediction. Some used to coincide, this can be out of the prediction made out of the charts or on random manner based on the market variation. Just because a prediction of a person coincide he isn't a master, because in the next consecutive prediction his choice might be wrong.

Honestly, experts like us, who make predictions from data analysis and past price history to arrive at a final prediction, and they don't have a crystal ball, can give they know the future. In other words, prediction is the prediction that will be right or wrong, there is no difference between the prediction they make and the prediction we make. So stop watching those predictions and be confident in your predictions because the investment is your money not theirs. We should be responsible for our money, not giving it to others.

$45k seems a bit too optimistic for this year. Given that the Fed will continue raising interest rates, which means investors in general are going to continue being scared for the next few months at least.

I think $30k by end of the year is totally doable, as I think Bitcoin is getting ready to head back up but the macro environment will dampen any bullish movement for the next few months.

Next year I think it'll get back over $50k and be hitting new ATHs before the halving in 2024. So Bitcoin will be recovering well soon I think, but the next few months I think we'll see plenty of chop even as it starts to recover from $20k.

I'm not sure if fomo or investment curiosity prompted this question as it's impossible for anyone to answer for sure at this point, if so far we collect all the answers collectively and use them as qualitative data and try to find their meaning.
and we will soon realize that no one knows because the price of bitcoin is not easy to predict and the most honest answer I believe is that whatever the price of bitcoin at the end of the year you mention it can happen. And we should continue to expect the bitcoin price to be at a much higher level by the end of the year.

Read my lips, i want you to know that I'm not debating or arguing the fact is that market of cryptocurrency is not open for prediction, but i want you to comprehend that it's not all the predictions of cryptocurrency is correct, sometimes our newbies base for the forecast or the prediction members of the community presents or render as a prediction. So if the prediction mislead them, some of them will not have the time to let the community know. So therefore it's good to study very well before releasing your prediction to the public knowing that some other person's can stick on your prediction to give out information.

I can 100% guarantee based on my models of proven science and maths that the price of bitcoin will not reach $45k before this year ends. This is an easy one.

No one really knows what is going to happen in the next months, that is true, however we can use our experience, our skills and the past data to give a more accurate prediction of what it may actually happen, and when we take all of that into consideration the possibilities we will see such an impressive growth in a matter of months when the bears have such control over the market and the overall state of the economy is not good either then we can say the probabilities are as minimal as possible, it is not impossible it is just very unlikely.

We all have different predictions when it comes to bitcoin, but in the end only 1 out of ten only predicted it right. But it’s okay as everyone is free to create his own market analysis and his own price movement. Well, despite of the long bearish market condition we are currently facing, I am not losing hope that bitcoin will hit a positive price at the end of the year. It might not be $45k or above, but at least we can see progress in bitcoin price chart.

It might depend on some various factors which starts off with the upcoming Ethereum merge. We just simply don't know if it's going to reach $45k before the end of the year.

As you may know, BTC's price along with the altcoins are unpredictable and can go up or down without warning. The market is always the master, as even the analysts and so-called gurus out there are not accurate when it comes to their TAs.

because even with these self-proclaimed experts, they won't know what will happen next. we are all the same in terms of speculating this market. but getting it right is hard as it depends on various factors. we will see how the market behaves after this eth merge. though we are only few months away before the end of this year, still we don't know where this market is heading to.

People who have known Bitcoin for a long time must have known the performance of Bitcoin which is often very difficult to predict. Like a sudden
drop or even several increases in Bitcoin, it often happens suddenly, so as you said anything is possible if we talk about Bitcoin. After all,
some Bitcoins do work miracles by rising to very high prices, which were unthinkable before. Therefore, even though the end of the year is
only a few months away and now the market is still in a bear market, don't be too pessimistic Bitcoin won't recover. Because the next miracle
could happen with suddenly good news that could make the price of Bitcoin reach the price of $45k. Therefore, our main focus now is to collect as
much Bitcoin as possible. So we already have preparations if it is true that the price of Bitcoin goes up at the end of the year and reaches
the price of $45k, we can make a big profit from Bitcoin. If the Bitcoin price doesn't go up at the end of the year, it doesn't matter, we just have
to hold the Bitcoin we have for the long term. Because after all Bitcoin will definitely recover and the price will return to the ATH price.

Volatility across all markets (every commodity every asset type ) is imo rising so nobody can 100% rule out the possibility of 45k, Ive been amazed with BTC performance in the past and it'll happen again Ive no doubt.   I dont know about this particular fixed price objective but being surprised at how extreme the boundaries of BTC can be is a no brainer, it will surprise everyone once again.   I just doubt it occurs this year.

Predicting the start and end of bearish and bull markets is not be effective at the moment. Every time the market goes up a little, it starts to go down again after a while. And this way it is passing long time. BTC may go up a bit towards the end of this year but $45k is not possible given the current conditions. Because $45K is not possible without bull market which is not possible in this year.

That is the problem, people are not entirely sure that they should be buying or selling, and that creates a bit of a problem for them as well. I personally believe that we shouldn't be really focusing on what they could do with some profit, because people would love to see a little bit of highs and as soon as it goes up they start to buy.

I believe we should teach people, or at least try to explain to them, the time to buy is not when it starts to go up, it is when it starts to go down that they should start to buy more. Because you should always be buying the bottom and selling the top, and unfortunately people wait until there is a bit of hype around crypto before they get in.

Then we should stay away from the goal of $40k for the meantime. I mean it is obvious that we are in the first phase of the bear market, next year could be worst though.

So for this year, I doubt that $45k is achievable, there's too much negativity that is going around the world that has put a dent on the price. So every bad news will stall everything, just like when there is the CPI announcement, suddenly the price goes down hard by 10%. So for me the realistic goal at the end of the month should be around $25k-$30k.

According to predictions from many experts who say that the price range in 2022 is $ 15k to $ 28k, this is increasingly apparent that the price is difficult to reach $ 25k, even more than 6 months the price continues to drop, the storm will continue and the bad possibility is The price will drop and touch $ 15K.

I do agree with buying now than regret later but the $45k is kind of a in a doubtful situation.
It's not that I underestimate Bitcoin because I have seen it surprise me most of the time but with how bad the economy is right now after spending the resources during the Covid pandemic, it's difficult to see a big impact that would hit cryptocurrencies in the investment perspective.
The less fortunate who had been investing small amounts are gone, all we have left are whales trying to manipulate the crypto market and they are waiting for the right time to sell. When? It will be at the time the small investors are back.

Thought they predict the price can end with 28k max and now they are skeptical about 25k? But indeed, 25k is getting hard to get lately but the max the we reached last time is only 24k. On the other hand, I don't think we will dump in 15k but the price can only play between 20k and 19k if it's going to be unstable in higher levels.

Anyway mate we are only predicting this year so what you are saying of 6 months there is not counted already because we only have 3 months left before we end this year. Next year is a different story anymore and I think many of us here will reset our predictions and will came up with another set of numbers.

Nothing is too optimistic or pessimistic for bitcoin if you ask me. I mean sure it looks like it is not going to 45k right now, but I feel like it could be 50k or 10k and both are not too much volatile for something like bitcoin, both could happen.

This is why it is much better to just have a situation where you could have a profit from crypto by holding for long enough that the volatility would help you from the upside. That way we all know eventually it will reach to a 45k level, maybe this year or maybe it won't be this year but it will eventually happen and when that happens that is going to work out very well for you and it will make a good return, you just need to wait for it.

I don't think that Bitcoin will reach $45K by the end of the year.  I may even be willing to place a bet on it if the bet is denominated in USD and not BTC (for obvious reasons, or maybe not obvious if you're bad at math).  The people who think that Bitcoin will hit $45K by the end of the year, what is your justification for this and how long have you been involved in Bitcoin?  Sure, I'm expecting the bottom to be in sometime before the end of the year and it's likely the price will be on an upward trajectory by then, but more than doubling from here during a period when we should be dragging the lows and accumulating...  I don't think so.

I think it's not only about timing, but also about the number of buying requests that could increase in three months of this year. Due to the difficulty in increasing Bitcoin that is happening right now is the result of a decrease in the number of purchases in the market even though there is always a daily circulating volume of Bitcoin. So in general Bitcoin is still very likely to increase to $45K within the year as long as there are lots of people buying Bitcoin over the next three months.

But this is the question why would a lot of people buy bitcoin during the next three months? Smart investors and whales are without a doubt buying all the bitcoin they can while at the same time they keep their intentions hidden from the public eye, but your average investor will not do something like that, so simply put the conditions aren't there for us to see such an increase in the demand, and if the demand doesn’t increase then the price wouldn’t do it either.

It is difficult to predict the price of bitcoin will reach $45k by the end of this year because in the midst of the current world economic uncertainty and the recent decline in prices still happening in the market. Even in the last few months, the price of bitcoin is still difficult to reach above $25k. Therefore I am not sure the bitcoin price will reach $45k later this year. Even if by the end of this year there will be a slight increase the bitcoin price may only reach above $30k and below $40k.

Bitcoin will most likely lose more value by the end of this year yet or in the best scenario continue on this same price range near 20,000$. There aren't positive news that could influence bitcoin on the other way upside. The market is weak, investors are interested in another financial niches, new projects don't bring innovation, stability or security to customers.

I hope from next year on crypto market starts recovering again, so we can reach to 30,000$ and maybe 40,000$, but it will highly depend on the situation of traditional economies of the world and how weak fiat currencies are going to be. The weakest fiat becomes, the stronger crypto gets.

I agree with your point, a lot of people are expecting bitcoin to hit a price higher than the current price like $30k or $40k. But looking at it carefully, there is not a single factor that can cause the price to recover even if it reaches the lowest target level of $25k. All indicators suggest that the market will only be able to decline further or will move sideways around the $20k region in the long term.

The economic situation will be the deciding factor for the market's trend, if the economy improves, the market will also prosper, but if the economy continues to decline, the market will continue to be in the red.

The single factor that could take it above is you, and me, and the person you respond to, we are the factors. If we believe that bitcoin will go up, then we will buy because why not buy something that will go up right?

And if I do it it will go up just a little bit, if you do too then a little bit more too, and if he does then a little bit more as well so all in all it will continue to go up for as long as we buy and eventually it will be 25k+ dollars. That's how you reach some profit, you need to keep on investing into crypto so that you could actually go up and in order for us to make a profit we need to get it higher and higher, and for that we need to buy more and more.

Bitcoin attaining that climax within these few months ways to end the year will be a little difficult. Though it's all speculation, no one can be so sure of what's most likely to ensue. So we hope and continue obtaining more of more of it.

Well with BTC is presently valued at 20k and was valued close to the same price in 2017. Personally, I think the price of BTC will reach 45k before the end of the year although I am being very 'Bullish'.

Even if I am wrong my long-term strategy stays the same and that is just to be patient, hold long and I’m fairly confident we will see BTC hit 100k by late 2023.

actually it is a thing that no one can tell , there are several chances for this to increase specially if the war from Ukraine and Russia stops , and the economic situation of America will recover , and also those events from crypto that will take place since there is Ethereum Merging and there is also a Mt.Gox paying people .
hopefully that there will change in progress and we will be seeing more of these in the coming weeks and months.
still not hitting 20k now mate , look at the chart till now

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

That's right, if look at bitcoin's recent price movements it seems very difficult to reach $45k by the end of the year, especially since the end of the year is only a few months away. to reach the price of $45k means the price of bitcoin must increase by more than 100% of its current price, and in a world economic situation that is bad and there is no good news about bitcoin it seems impossible to happen.

Current condition became more worse as the day past together with the sentiments of the people so I will also agree the same with other thought's that it will be hard for bitcoin to reach even at $35k. Bitcoin might continue to struggle since there's no literal good moves happening, but lets hope that we cannot see bitcoin at below $10k since for sure with that figures more people will get panic.

My prediction would be that it hits at least $15K and ends the year at multi-year lows.  I'm not sure what you're basing your prediction on since we're about to reach the stage where the market finds a bottom (next month) and the global economy is in recession with the highest levels of inflation most of us have seen in our lifetimes.  I think your prediction is running a bit on hopium.  Even in a bullish scenario, reaching $40K by the end of the year is nearly impossible.  Patience during bear markets is key.  New highs aren't right around the corner.

to return to $45k like it's stillnaturally this year, yes we will enter Q4 and I think there will be a surprise for cryptocurrencies,
I think that is good news because the world is still in an inflationary catastrophe and I am sure it will also have a positive impact on cryptocurrencies,
yes although currently cryptocurrencies are still very vulnerable to the news

I also think that bitcoin will find it hard to achieve another positive price like $45k this year as we are close to the last quarter and yet bitcoin price is still not showing sustainable positive progress. However, I’m not closing door for it since we all know with bitcoin everything is possible. I just hope the bear season finally end so that we will also be seeing another heights for bitcoin.

We should really not make ourselves that too hopeful or optimistic so that we wont really be ending up on having that kind of frustration if ever Bitcoins price wont really be that able to achieve that price
in year end.Its better that you should really mind yourself on accumulating cheap coins as of this moment but its not bad to wait up until the dust settles down considering that there might be still
some negative news that hangs around which makes the market go even down lower.We do all speculate though but its not bad to have these considerations
and this is where risk taking happens.

In this market with full of uncertainties, no one is expected to hit the target or to end up with 100% certainty when it comes to price prediction. All we have are just pure guesses and speculations from our own insights or points of view. And with this very challenging bitcoin, all I can say is that whatever it’s price these days will never be the same after tomorrow. Just stay optimistic as we don’t even know what bitcoin has store for us in the next months and years.

Cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin price is not constant, and some people never believe on that, what they actually know is that bitcoin is a something that when you can regulate. From my basic understanding of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency generally, the predictions of them, none of them are reliable because nobody have control over crypto, no matter how cryptocurrency is been in state of low value. We all know that the price is base on the determination of the demand and the supply.

It would be nice if we could see $45K again this year, but I don't believe in it. My prediction is that we will see a maximum price of 20k$ by the end of the year. That's my positive guess. My negative estimate is a price between 13k$ and 16k$. There are just too many problems in the world right now and that's bad for the price. We're in a bear market and I'm not expecting high prices. The bear market will certainly continue for some time.
It would have to be a miracle for bitcoin to reach $45k again this year, in my opinion. Let's see if I'm right with my assessment.  ;)

The bear season is expected to stay long like what happened in the previous bear market.
So many predictions arise that this year the price of Bitcoin will keep low and I tend to agree with that. I'd see $25-$30k is quite possible but never did I expect that much.

Honestly, we have no clue what will happen a few months from now nor we are able to say that the same scenario we will witness this year like 2018-2020 bear season, it was uncertain.

I agree that there are many different ways that bitcoin could recover as well, and 45k could happen this year, all it depends on is hearing the news and that is going to be a great day for crypto. It could be number of things like you listed, but the important thing is if we are seeing those type of things happen right now or not, and we are not seeing them so far. It just requires a bit of time before we can see them and will it be before the year ends or not? I do not know if it will be before the year ends, but I know that it will happen.

This is why I am investing no matter what, doesn't matter if it is going to happen now or later on. I know that it is not going to be cheerful moments when bitcoin price ends up being low for the rest of the year, but if it goes up super high in 2023 it will be great for everyone.

Seeing the market behavior of bitcoin these days, it’s  easy to say that bitcoin will only stay at the range of $20k-$30k price. It’s value may suddenly increase but after few days it’s showing price decline again. Probably, this happens because the bear season is not over yet and there are no much positive news in the market that will greatly influence the price movement of bitcoin.

I can say that $45 is not a high target and it can be met by Bitcoin. If there is possibility for Bitcoin to make $30k this year, it means it can also make $45. From $30k to $45k na withing 48hrs movement with a very strong fundamental.
I have finally decided to buy bitcoin only for a long term and I will not disturb myself much on the price anyone. But the reality is, in as much as you are in this industry, you must be checking the price of bitcoin anytime  ;D even if you don't have assets you are monitoring.

But we are not sure if we reach $30k because it was even hard to stabilize at $25k which means we only have very slim chances to move high. Too early to think but what I foresee is we ended up this year below $30k. Not that low, right? And I still consider this a healthy price.
That is the thing, buying Bitcoin now couldn't expect instant returns but must endure holding and waiting for the next bull season to come as that is the only way to earn more profit. That is why we don't just rely solely on crypto investment for sometimes or more often, it takes some time before we gain profit.

The bear market makes many people a skeptical about the price increase at the end of this year, they can even think that bearish will still be the season throughout this year so expect early 2023 to be a good move for the bitcoin price even though it will not necessarily come true article. this is an old cycle that repeats itself and we have to be a little patient to wait for a positive trend again.
Well, to be more precise, investors should be able to hold their assets for another 2-3 years.

Be positive when the market is able to prove something in that direction but dont be fooled into believing we head upwards before then and before we have proved negative movements futile.   Price action will keep attempting to sell till it hits a wall of some kind, right now we descend below declining moving averages on most time frames.
  See how this triangle resolves itself:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/AI3N2.png

Agree with on this concern, moreover is quite natural to say that BTC is cyclical. Where in the next few years there will be large price movements in BTC. The current Bitcoin price and momentum is bearish in nature and the global economic situation is also negative. Bitcoin bull run or $45k is not possible in such situation. Moreover, there are only 3 months left of this year. preparing for bull run will not be an easy task in this short period of time.

Seeing the current market conditions is certainly very difficult to reach $ 45K again, even if the price of Bitcoin reaches $ 30k then I'm happy, the market is always difficult to guess so we must be wise when investing in Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies.

It's not just about the difficult things that have to happen to be seen, but about how many people are able to survive while buying Bitcoin again in the current conditions. Because if someone still sells more Bitcoin at a cheap price like now, of course a bigger increase in Bitcoin is clearly difficult to happen.
Because some people still don't see Bitcoin as a valuable asset for them to keep forever.

realistically, it seems to me to be an almost impossible mission, this is because we are in a time of crisis in which the crisis is not expected to end anytime soon, and also the year is about to end, so I don't think it's possible to reach the 45000$ this year, but to next year, it may be possible, especially if we are talking about the end of next year, it would be more realistic


the problem is that the world is facing a financial crisis because of the ukraine war, and in times of financial crisis people do not think about making risky investments, there is usually a lot of unemployment, displaced from wars in which countries consented to have to support Ukraine, even food prices are rising at a scary level, so in these times it is difficult for people to invest heavily in high risk things, so in my opinion it will be very difficult for us to see the price reach 45000$  this year


I believe the price will be between 17000$ and 24000$, it is a very realistic forecast

I am agree that in 2022 we will not able to see bitcoin at 45k because the the market is still in risky conditions . But here is a word of hope Bitcoin is still steady as Stocks Fall . So I think Bitcoin will build a stable position between 19 and 25 even if it doesn't see 45k. And to touch 45k I think we have to hold the find for more 8\9month

Unfortunately there are still some people who are afraid to hold bitcoin and end up selling it when they see it go down. Whereas, a real investor would know that the best time to buy is right now, why? Because, it is not doing that great right now and that means we should be investing a bit more towards crypto in order to benefit from the bull run that will eventually come.

Will it be 45k this year? I have no idea, but I know for sure that it will be 45k eventually, which means that we should be investing now so we could more than double our money when the time comes and that will be the key to my financial success, well at least I hope it will be.

Looks like BTC started pumping today, but didn't last long, my estimate is around 17 hours, but now Bitcoin is dropping again. I'm not so sure Bitcoin price will reach $40k by the end of the year. Because this is not the time to pump. Maybe Bitcoin will be pumpable for $25k by the end of the year. According to my estimate, BTC is back at the pump next April.

If bitcoin wants to recover it can do that within some interval, because expecting it to recover fully in market by the ending if the year, it's under probability, like the way it's right now. Some speculations has been made before now by the some of the traders who comes with their own ideology in bitcoin trading that bitcoin is directly or going to rise in August and august has passed and their is no full recovery of Bitcoin, so their is no specific price bitcoin can ascertain we can't embrace.

yes, there will always be time when there will be an increase, but if we look at this year only in March it could reach $47K after that it continued to fall even for June until now it could never reach $30K again.
Of course, seeing this situation, it is unlikely that the ability to be able to return to the same as in March.
with the current price at $19K+ will it reach $45K ? always the answer will still be a possibility, but we also have to be realistic that we can accept that there will be no change until the end of this year.

I am hesitant to think that Bitcoin will be reaching $45k  before the year 2022 ends.  The current sentiment isn't favorable to Bitcoin and there is only 3 months left to change that bearish sentiment to bullish completely.



The bear market is always the best time to buy Bitcoin.  As I always say, the bear market opens a window for new investors to get involved in Bitcoin market.  Bear market gives us opportunity to buy Bitcoin at a very low price, even 80% discount of its ATH price.

We've only moved just near to a month yet it seems 45k is twice as unlikely when we began.       All we've done in reality is go sideways and I do think BTC is positive acting relatively however 45k this year should be edited to 2023 to be a better discussion.   I dont see how its probable for it to reach above both 50 day and 200 day and not be slowed and require some revision along the way ie. time to process and thats even after we launch a bull trend suddenly.
  I can presume positive possible but not this price target in this time frame.  We had a good trend in July into August but it broke, that trendline now resides quite close to the 200 day average.  We arent close to either, it has to get there first and the only reasonable speculation currently is it capable of that; 200 day is below 30k so the road is long and winding.

It is now the last quarter of 2022 , still Bitcoin is maintaining its position that is 19-20k .

what I wanna see now is that the small increase from October and till December .

and also I wanted to find profit before the year ends ? at least 30k the most.

In the 3 months left before the year-end, though it was not hopeless to see the price of Bitcoin reaching back to $45k and the chances are very slim. I'm not even thinking about it nor expecting a huge profit this year but at least I have some that I think it was good enough for this bear season. As I could see that is likely possible that we just end up this year at below $30k  as I was expecting some surge during the Christmas season but never this could totally uplift the price to the highest level. 

I don't really see the price doubling in the next three months. If it did then I would expect a huge crash afterwards. The price has stabilized around $19k. If the price closed above $20k it would be really posistive considering we've been on a downward trend for nearly a whole year. It's looking like the economy could enter a global recession so it is not the ideal time for Bitcoin to see significant growth.

Really hard to believe,eh?

Yes,it is really that hard to predict and believe that the price would go to 45k on this year basing up and looking the current movement of Bitcoins price is way too slow and something
plays around 20k and below.We  dont see any fundamentals around which could really affect price movement.

This is why i've decided to play with these small increment declining and increasing price.You wont need to wait up for too long before you could really make profits.
You could deal up with the volatility but of course this isnt for anyone because we know that price prediction and making actions along with it
is something that hard to deal with.

That's what everyone looks forward to, but it's impossible to just wait for those surprises without taking into account the worse. Look at the current world economic situation, the war continued to escalate when Russia announced the annexation of four Ukrainian provinces into their country, and inflation of the EU economy continued to reach the highest level. All is looking very bad in the coming days so the scenario is for the market to continue to plummet rather than have an upcoming bull run.

October is usually a good month for the market, so we are right to expect bitcoin to rise before falling further. There are always some rallies in a bear market, and I think it will happen in October.

This month of October may be slightly different from other times of the year. If we look at a chart of this time each year, Bitcoin price has increased by 10.17% in this month in 2019, 27.7% in 2020, and 39.93% in 2021. So we can expect good things in this month. In this continuation, we can expect its price to be limited to $35K by the end of the year.

Lets not give hope mate , remember that each last quarter brings surprises to all of us but of course there are 2 ways, either surprise of climbing and the sad part is surprises of dumping.
but either both lets make it a way of maybe selling or purchasing more readying for the coming halving in a  couple of years from now.
i may not be willing to sell but if we reach at least 45-50k? then i will take that chance to sell out and maybe buy again in lowering days.

when you say "Many Analyst " I think you should share at least one or two of them the brings this prediction because most of those who put  fud here are not bitcoin supporters or at least those not that popular, what I also see is that many are looking or rooting for 30k in the end of 2022.
if we will look at the performance of Bitcoin this whole year? i think what we can see is more on betterment comparing to what happened in 2017-2018 that after the bull then the market covers by bloody days the whole 2018.

Yesterday and today we see a slight price improvement and it was just a matter or time when such topic is going to appear? $45k by the end of years? People who think this is possible should narrow their appetites and take of pink glasses. We cant normally gain foothold on $20-22k level, and you expect Bitcoin price to double in 3 months. Imo that is impossible. Would be lucky if we would be close to $30k by the end of the year.

I think until the end of this year the bitcoin price will be difficult to reach $45k because the bearish phase is not completely over. Moreover, throughout this year the crypto market did not show a good performance where the price of bitcoin was still declining. However, it is possible that next year the price of bitcoin may reach $45k again. Therefore let's see how far the market will move forward.

Yes it will be really hard for Bitcoins to cross this price mark.
Currently Bitcoins are in such a phase that the resistance is very hard, and big whales are manipulating the price in large quantities.
If Bitcoins manages to survive and cross 30k usd by this year end, then definitely in the next year it will try to break its all time high price.
Nevertheless let’s hope for the best and see where we will end by the end of this year.

I don't know what will happen at the end of the year I can't be sure even if the analysts do it it's really difficult to move to the $45k level, in reality there is so much sentiment that still affects the market that it doesn't move further and we still see a range $20k.
One of the best ways to buy while there is a chance maybe that's what needs to be recommended if you wait for the moment to continue to a better level I think we are not too late again, even though they often think about the lowest price but I believe this is the bottom point.
Maybe we should start looking at the real price in 2023.

I'm pretty sure by the end of the year we won't see 40K and certainly not 45K. Earliest when BTC price comes to this limit spring next year, if not later. With these uncertainties in the world, btc price will not crack these levels. And by the way, the best time to buy btc hasn't arrived yet. Wait. Just my opinion

To predict some times gives hope and when the prediction price does not come to pass it becomes a disappointment, now the prediction of the btc market looks like the prediction of gambling prediction. Is there any different? The first has already shows your prediction before even the second line of the thread.

prediction is 45k or probably $40k if not the 45k stated. Everyone can come up with figures. As for now I can't predict the market because of the strong downturn of the market. I was thinking the last week of September btc market would rise up but irony  was on my side. As for now, I am only waiting for the bull market nothing more again.

There is no best and bad time to buy bitcoin if there is money but if there is no money then when the market goes down you buy so you will be a beneficiary in the bull market.

Nothing is certain, but you may be right about prices, especially if you relate them to some of the current economic events and conditions. Inflation ravaging the world has caused a lot of problems, rising interest rates are another reason behind bears persisting so far. I don't think $45K can be reached before the end of the year, but since bitcoin is a volatile asset, there should be no certainty about how it will be priced in November and December.

About the best times, I guess it's just perspective. I would like to buy more bitcoin for around $12K or $13K this year, but I don't know if the price will drop into that area for the rest of the year ii. In fact, bitcoin is currently experiencing a sideway, this is a sign that there is a possibility of another correction in my opinion or maybe the price will rise above $21K in the near future.

It looks like slightly below $19-20k is the lowest possible price for Bitcoin. I see that as soon as price goes to $18k, it immediately bounces back. That is why your plan of buying at $12k or $13k is not going to come true. And I see no reason for a growth either. $21k can be reaches without any troubles, and then drop back. We have seen such things happen many times. This looks like another stagnation of Bitcoin. Bitcoin just waits what will happen in world economy during next half year or year.

This could be true because indeed looking at the market this year it seems that bitcoin is a little difficult after they reach a new ATH so we have to wait a little longer it seems.
But indeed there are still some possibilities that will happen because this is only the beginning of the 10th month and there are still 2 months left until the end of the year so there are always possibilities even though it seems difficult to increase significantly to the price.

still trusting my Holdings ,  Bitcoin is what I still believe that would make a higher climb this year than all altcoins .

so Indeed that there is a possibilities that the increase will come though I will accept if this can only reach 35k.

its not that bad to expect mate because from the market that we have now? of course we are positive towards increase because like you?I am also a Bitcoin holder lol.
to the Moon , I have said this a thousand times lol , but of course we wanted more now as the last ATH is almost 70k so 45k is just a peanut if the next halving comes.

There's no point in waiting for a price increase if we can't buy bitcoin at a low price, instead of predicting when the price will go up or how much, we should focus on buying while the price is still cheap. We just have to remember one thing that bitcoin falls and then goes up, our duty is to buy low and not sell at any price if the market gets worse. Given what's going on in the world, I still believe we are a long way from bull season and there could still be a new bottom but I'm still buying at this price because it's pocket-friendly and my goal.

We can't be sure, but if we look at the current economic situation, we can see that it could be true. Inflation remains high, and there is no doubt about a Fed rate hike, so hopes of a rally to 45k in the this year are tough. We will not see bitcoin rise again if the Fed continues its current tough rate hike policy. It will be difficult to predict when bitcoin will go up but I think this is a good time to buy bitcoin because compared to ATH the current drop of 70%, I think we are already at or near the bottom.

The horrific impact of the war in the world has already fallen into every country. Inflation has increased in a way that disrupts every human life. Fed is giving this situation more upset. They have already implemented 0.75% point increase interest rate. They think it will protect them from the world recession as well as reduce of inflation. Will the market be able to rise to $45k under these conditions? Naturally this is difficult because the world is going through bad times. Investing at this point is not feasible for everyone. But next year we can hope something better.

I think investing at this point is very good. why is it not feasible? To get a good return in 2025, this is a good time if you choose bitcoin as your investment, bitcoin price has dropped more than 65% from its ATH, so this is a pretty good price to start buying, may not be the last as i said but it was too cheap to buy.

Don't worry too much about the timing of bitcoin's price increase because it is unpredictable but just make sure it will rise again in the future and we can buy it right away.

Right, investing at this moment is still very good, price around $20k, that is still cheap as we are still very down from our last all time high. Next year though, I think the trend will continue to be like this, very bearish and just maybe another lowest low for all we know.

Just very glad to see the price moving to $20k, but I highly doubt that we can get to $45k at the end of the year. Most that we might is probably $30k.

Can you give a few reasons why you say buying BTC at this time is not the best time? Because I think if someone wants to make a profit through BTC, obviously they have to buy when the price is decreasing or when the price is cheap like in the current example. Because I don't think that the price of BTC at this time is at an expensive price, even the current price is still very cheap when compared to ATH that has happened in BTC.

It depends on which perspective you look at Bitcoin opportunities. One thing for sure in my opinion is that buying Bitcoin is the best decision. If you think the current price is not worth buying, then don't do it. But you also have to be prepared for the increase in the price of Bitcoin. When the Bitcoin price continues to increase, then you should never regret not buying it now.

maybe this october will be a determinant for bitcoin prices in the future,
because if Bitcoin in October is able to be above $25k and lasts until November,
then I believe the price of Bitcoin will certainly try to breakout above $30k,
and the bias at the end of the year will be interesting for movement bitcoins.

To be honest, I still don't know whether $45k will be achieved or not,
I think it's still very likely because if you look at the chart the Bitcoin price is very supportive of going bullish again,
only that in October Bitcoin must be able to reach $30k first.

No one predicted bull run of bitcoin in dec 20-jan 21 .

So Anything may happen. But Lets hope for the best. If everyone is bullish on Bitcoin, why doesn't it reach $40k? We are already half way there.

we will know in this october, if this october will be bullish and the same as people say then i believe $45k can be reached by the end of the year,
but if the bitcoin price dumps in this month then i am really pessimistic about bitcoin at the end year won't be more than $20k again.

Some people predict that BTC will go to the $45k at the end of the year. In my experience, Bear Market continue and still continue at the end of year. So BTC will go $30k at the end of year but difficult to reach $45k

My crystal ball is dysfunctional too.....

I can't see or predict anything that would cause it to trade up until the end of the year.

I can clearly see that ALLOT more economic bad news and pain is coming. We know that this will drive bitcoin down ( and stocks et al).. Pretty much sideways/down until some dramatic changes.

Even if the economy is good and there's no bad news. Bitcoin will never reach the 45K price before the end of this year if it still follows the 4years revolution since the Bitcoin halving will still happen.

We still have 3 months left for this year and will the last 3 months there will be a high pump because based on the price being at the second point of the lowest price area in 2022, so the last 3 months become a strong analysis for signal predictions for next year, I hope at least the price Bitcoin could close above 30k until the end of this year for a potentially bullish early next year.

If you calculate the time period in different years, 2017 to 2021 is a long time and the increase in Bitcoin at that time is happening slowly from month to month.
Not in just one month, you yourself can still check the graph of the increase that has occurred in those two years because what has happened is complete data that is stored as history for Bitcoin. And for this year I'm not so sure that Bitcoin can be at $45K, but I'm still more sure that the price that can be achieved by Bitcoin is lower than that price.

3 months is not that long of a time and if Bitcoin is still in the $20K price range by the end of this month, then the closing price at the end of the year probably won't reach the $45K level, although it could very well be $30K, as Bitcoin needs to increase in every month if you want to reach a certain price level, or a price level that is almost double the current price.

BTC bulish trend may not be possible next year if it is anything like what economic analysts are predicting. When the economic recession starts, there will be a big obstacle to investment, so there will not be a bullish situation. At least we have to wait until Q2 2023. If there is no recession then we can see a bullish trend. Even if 2023 is not bullish, there will be a big bull run in 2024 according to the 4-year cycle in Bitcoin.

You are right, we get so caught up in the news of economic crisis, war, inflation and the coming recession that we forget that we have entered a bear cycle by the end of 2021, which means before all these things. If we're still going to have a four-year revolution, things won't bounce back any time soon, with or without these crises. Having said that, the market is under pressure from a lot of factors combining so we are unlikely to see a bull run this year or 2023. Everything needs to get back to normal before we can think of the market getting better.

Bitcoin market trend this month has not shown any sign of bullish movement and if care is not taken, Bitcoin is going to rely on around the 20k region throughout this month and even going into December with a weak recovery process. This price of Bitcoin has become resistant lately and Bitcoin have tried so hard to break the 25k region several time now, but if we can move ahead into 25k before the end of November, it will be possible for us to have that 45k price before the end of 2022.

The bull run end of last year wasnt predicted but was still entirely possible as we had remained in the upper range of prices.   Right now the fight is not to regain the top of the range but just not to lose a foothold keeping us at the bottom.
   Main thing to note there is no trend in play, we cant regain anything as if elastic rebounding; it must be rebuilt from scratch here and its harder to do so.  Old sellers wait in all of the 20k prices and 30k prices, this old volume is like tank traps in the road price cant proceed until its cleared.    Possible, it will happen but not end of year we know theres energy required to proceed upwards & time.

 I feel very bullish this year that Bitcoin’s price will hit $45k by the end of 2022. And as more institutional investors like Tesla are buying bitcoin and hodl it for the long term, bitcoin’s liquid supply will continue to decline.

Now that the price is flatlining for a couple of months means we are forming a new resistance line and agreeing on the new price of Bitcoin because many more people starting to adopt it more and more every day. Other factors include Russia's attack on Ukraine, and the global economy is down.

Bitcoin price is not increasing due to various issues. Again, not decreasing much from the current situation. A positive site for Bitcoin price stability is that there are a lot of investors holding Bitcoin. However, its reflection is not seen due to the deterioration of global conditions. If economic recession does not fall in the next year, we will soon be able to see its bullish trend.

I hope you are right because by now I believe we all expect bitcoin to rise again. But honestly, it's very unlikely because in 2017 and 2021 we don't have crisis like this year, war, energy crisis, inflation and Fed rate hike. If we ignore the factor of the 4-year down cycle, all of that combined will certainly make the market never better or recover, there are only 3 months left until the end of the year and to hit $45k means BTC has to double its current price. I don't believe that will happen.

The problem is that we do not know if it will happen or not. The cryptocurrency market is unpredictable as it can go up or down without warning. I just don't know what would be the real factor of BTC going up to $45k before the year ends. However, anything is possible but do not expect too much that it will indeed happen with BTC as you said.

Expect to be over $45K by the end of the year. We are currently still very hard to reach the highest price even the efforts that we continue to do now is to reach $25K.
With the various problems that hit the world economy, the movement did not move far and only lasted for a while when the chart had managed to be at $21K and today Bitcoin is still trading at a price below $20K.

BTC price will absolutely not reach $45k before this year ends. Not only that, but we can now be absolutely certain that the price will not even maintain 10 consecutive days above $20k between now and the end of the year. Might as well regard what I've said as certain as the laws of physics. It's simply not going to happen.

Well I came back after many years to see if proudhon was still bearish.

And he is. Not disappointed tbh

I expect that BTC price will be $30k at the end of year. Some people say that It is possible the price of BTC will be down and hit $10k at end of the year. Give me your opinion BTC will reach $45k and $10k

the Year continues to show no progress as even we are closing the 2022 yet bitcoin have not manage to hit 30k back so Indeed that even if your crystal ball is not dysfunctional still the result will be negative.

But not as bad as others expecting to be below 20k? What i was looking is the hold of 20k above level at least 25k the most? is it practical to expect at least till end of 4th quarter?

as what you expected?  ;D

I quickly rushed to check the date of this thread to be sure of its reality, and I found out that even since September when it has been posted, the buying of Bitcoin to hit $45,000 is not realistic as the market is more bearish in trend than bullish. The inflation and the economic meltdown of the world would not help BTC to grow as a risk-on market, there are a lot of challenges it would still face before the end of this year.

Technically, there is no hope yet, the high of August at $25,208.89 should be the focus of any good speculator now. Only a break above it would give hope towards $45,000 which I still believe will not be hit again this year.

I'm not sure that the price of bitcoin this year can return to $45k, it's been almost a year the market is bearish, and according to the predictions of many market experts it could happen for more than 2 years, meaning that in 2023 the market will also be red.

Why do you just like to say a word in this case without providing evidence as the data that the market expert said here? Wouldn't a discussion look warm and directed if there was clearer evidence of what an expert said, because an expert is a human being who can be wrong and miss what he has said, because humans cannot surpass a god in terms of seeing future.

You are right about the trap. There will be initiatives taken by whales to wash out these investors. Possibly they will do it the hard way. We could see panic spread through the crypto space which will cause another major crash. This could initiate and trigger panic among weak hands who will dump their bags at whatever price they could get. There could be some typical regulations for the crypto space.

Now the Bitcoin price is heading towards $21K and obviously still a long way to go for $45K. Such a large price range for Bitcoin has actually happened to Bitcoin in the last year, although not in the long term. But for now such a big price looks difficult because there are more people who still keep their assets in stable currencies or the like so not many rich people are spending their assets into Bitcoin. That's why a price increase to $45K is a little more difficult to achieve this year.

You are wrong my friend. If you greed for more and wait for more down price, then definitely you will miss the best price to buy the Bitcoins. In my opinion when we are talking about coins like Bitcoins, we shouldn’t give a second thought irrespective of the price. Bitcoins marketcap and popularity is quite big. So if you are able to buy Bitcoins at around 20k usd, then consider yourself lucky, as soon as the bear market gets over, Bitcoins will skyrocket in it’s price. Coming to the OP, yes it will be very hard for Bitcoins to reach 45k usd bu the end of this year. Let’s expect atleast 30k usd for Bitcoins.

Don't get you op! According to you, bitcoin Will have hit at least $40k, right? But price is still half of your prediction and this year is about to end. So logically the price of bitcoin should be start increasing, right? If so then why you think, this is not best time for buying bitcoin? Even bitcoin already attempt to gearing up since last few days. So i think, this is the best time to have some bitcoin before it increase too high

Everything is possible here on cryptospace even if we do saw that the price might be that still far on what op is claiming but raising up 100% on 3 months time wont really be that too far off which means that everything
could really be that possible this is why making up price conclusions wont really be always precise since we know on what potential we could really have on this market which is something unpredictable.
If you dont like for yourself to be waiting up for long time on speaking with making profits due to wait up of price increase then it would be better if you do know on how to play with price volatility.
In having that slight increase of price would really be wise for you to sell off and buy when price do decrease.

If OP was going to start being correct it would be now.   We are breaking upwards with a 2nd positive daily bar above price action which has contained BTC price for a long time.   All it has to do to get the higher prices is build this kind of momentum to take apart any resistance above.  It can happen, we've seen it before even after quite serious negative set backs.  My own take is after a period of no price movement, suddenly moving off can release alot of interest and trades that otherwise were lying dormant.
  I dont actually think we get 45k so quickly but nows the time to consider the bet upwards at least if not that magnitude exactly.

Yes, when we thought that this is not possible, now in the last 48 hours we have seen a different trend that we have to think that $45k might be possible if this run is going to continue till the end of the year.

If not the end of the year, at least in this bear market, we could have seen a recovery to this level and maybe the price going down hard again to a new lows before eventually the bitcoin halving in 2024. Let's observed this break out run, maybe we will hit $25k till November and see if the market will continue to react till December and end the year with at least $30k in the bag or higher.

In order for it to reach the figure mentioned in the subject title, the economic problems around the world must begin to decrease. The rest is just imagination. I think it is optimism to say that bitcoin will rise to this level, while good results are not emerging in the world economy. If an environment of trust cannot be established for bitcoin, it will remain at these levels. In order to provide this environment of trust, we need to get some good legal news.

It might sound impossible to reach $ 45k in the current year, but if you see the fact that this week has gone up more than 8% then I am optimistic that this year the price can return to $ 45k, we will see tomorrow or the day after tomorrow if the price does not go down and can rise More than 12% this week, I am very sure I will reach $ 45K.

Since the price has moved to $20k few days ago, show that it will reach $45k before the end of this year. I guess, the price of Bitcoin will surely pump higher next week to make those that invested in Bitcoin few months ago in the community to get ready for massive pumping that will last more than 5 months before it will dump to allow investors to buy again and hold for another bull to come. Many investors will surely achieve something suitable before the end of this year 2022, because the price of Bitcoin will surely move higher to a level both long term investors and short term investors will experience bull season.

It has to break a lot of barriers before we can be confident to say that it is going to happen. But who doesn't like high prices for bitcoin? Those that haven't accumulated yet.

Do not get so sure.

We're still in the bear market and the price of bitcoin is still unknown if it's already out of that zone. It's barely making to $21k and there are many analysis that I've read that it has to be there first so most of their TAs will be broken as most of them are bearish.

If we look at the price trend throughout 2022 it seems very difficult to reach $ 45K, especially the world economic conditions that are still recession so that most people will need cash and cryptocurrencies, of course, will be the first asset to be sold.

right now the good news for us is Bitcoin is able to be at a level above $ 20000 if October ends,
yes, there are only a few hours left for the monthly candle to close, and we will see how bitcoin reacts,
maybe volatility will be very high today, moreover indeed this is a decision for bitcoin price in the future,
because according to TA if the bitcoin price is above $20k again there is a chance to go to $40k at the end of the year,
so hopefully it can happen.

Don't be pessimistic about the current price conditions, if the market bull runs it will be easy to reach $45k, signs of a bull run starting to appear at the end of October because it has gone up more than 12% in a day, maybe this is a good opportunity to continue to fill the wallet and with current low price.

It seems that until the end of this year bitcoin is difficult to bullish. Even today, the price of bitcoin is still experiencing a decline where the price is still in the $19k-$20k price range. So let's see there are still two more months until the end of this year how far the bitcoin price movement will go and I'm optimistic the bitcoin price will reach above $25k by the end of this year.

if you look at the past 3 months it is clear that the best price that can be done is to approach $25K and then continue to fall. I think we might be heartened to accept the fact that this year it doesn't look like bitcoin will have a significant increase let alone reach $45K.
If we look at the time, there are only 7 weeks left but now the price is going down again, I also don't feel that next year there will be changes, maybe it will be the same as this year or maybe it will go down even more? because we know that next year is where we enter the world economic crisis.

There are still less than two months left for this year, Bitcoin has not shown a big increase against the price increase, the correction is still continuing until now, although there is a gradual recovery, but for the accumulated recovery I think it is around $30 k-$40k and will be the point of improvement around that price this year.

Then a small accumulation can be made for the end of 2022, while market sentiment still shows a decline before it reaches a cycle, it's good that this moment can be used to make purchases, because bitcoin may react in a higher price range next year.

It's been 11 months this year but the crypto market has not shown any signs of starting to pick up, as traders are still selling steadily. Although there are still 2 months left, it seems that bullish sentiment is difficult for bitcoin. Therefore, looking forward to the rest of the year, let's see how the outlook for bitcoin's price moves through the end of 2022.

And with the recent setbacks that we have seen, not due to bitcoin though, it's from some obscure exchange and shitcoin who thinks that they can take over the market, with billions on their name. But it just collapses like the Terra luna drama back in June if I'm not mistaken.

So with that, I don't see the price hitting $45k at the end of the month. We have a target like around $25k, that will be the best estimates prior to FTX. But now it seems that this price is also out of range, maybe we could appreciate if the price hits around $20k this December.

Get used to it whether it would be taking so long or not, there no way that we could able to determine on how long a bear market or bullish market will really last and this is
what makes thing more difficult.When you do invest on this crypto space then you should really make yourself that prepared when it comes to this.You cant really
that confident when it comes to prediction of prices and every entry or buyback will really be accompanying such anxiety deep inside.
For this year end then it would really be that hard to predict if we would reach that price.It is really just too far off and we do need some positive
news which would be a catalyst for such increase.

5 days ago when the price reached more than $21 made me optimistic that bitcoin could touch $45k this year, unfortunately there was a big case that FTX made the market have to plunge and yesterday it touched its lowest position for the last 2 years which is $16k, even according to predictions many price experts have the opportunity to continue plunging below $12k in the case of FTX like LUNA.

Maybe the very normal 10-12k area will be reached if the market continues to decline due to the panic from the FTX case, I have reviewed many speculators predicting the market will drop lower but we must be optimistic that after the case has subsided we enter the high price recovery stage and hope on the beginning of next year is the end of the bearish period that has happened so far and of course everyone is looking forward to a recovery and bullish period in the future.