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Broadly speaking in gambling, there are 4 patterns/graphs of winning or losing which maybe we all are sure of and have experienced one of the 4 patterns of gambling distortion. Keep in mind that this discussion is just the result of my research and may or may not be true. Before I go any further, I remind you that gambling is a game that must be controlled as healthy as possible and can be accounted for by itself, therefore, be wise in dealing with gambling regardless of the type of gambling.

First, let's discuss the gambling distortion pattern as shown in the image below:
1. Gambling Distortion Pattern I
https://i.ibb.co/1KKb9Px/image.png
Based on the pattern image above, it is certainly familiar from the start we have made a potential winning deposit right in front of our eyes. Well if this pattern occurs or has been experienced, it looks like you will continue to play or another possibility you decide to immediately withdraw your winnings and leave. Because you realize that if the game continues, you will most likely lose.

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2. Gambling Distortion Pattern II
https://i.ibb.co/PTs3Hfx/image.png
Based on the second picture, in short, you will understand that when we make an initial deposit, we immediately lose and are never awarded a win. If a gambling pattern like this happens to us, there are 2 outputs that result: first, you give up and don't try again because you realize that gambling will not make you win against the house or you continue to run out.

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3. Gambling Distortion Pattern III
https://i.ibb.co/L6ZMwcV/image.png
Next is a picture of the third gambling pattern of course when you first make a deposit you get a total win, but here the problem is that you lose control and are too confident that the victory you just got is just the beginning and feel confident that there will still be many wins ahead. Conditions like this push you into a trap that motivates you mentally to continue to have big ambitions. As a result, the wins are getting smaller, little by little loss but still accompanied by uncontrollable ambition, finally, all the balances owned are lost.

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4. Gambling Distortion Pattern IV
https://i.ibb.co/vxjY1jw/image.png
Finally, the 4th picture is about gambling distortion which I think is quite interesting and of course plays with mentality and capital in gambling. Where the pattern above describes the ups and downs of the gambling rhythm that is experienced. At the beginning of making a deposit, you are given a win, feel comfortable and then experience continuous losses and your capital is almost exhausted, but then the victory comes back unexpectedly after feeling that at that point of defeat there will be no more wins, but it turns out that your emotions are revived and Epic Blast is a great resurgence in gambling.

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Based on all the graphic descriptions of gambling above, it encourages me to share, whether it is for beginners or maybe those who have been playing gambling for a long time must have experienced this kind of gambling distortion. One more thing I emphasize is that what has been said does not mean I encourage someone to start a gambling journey. But just sharing experiences because gambling is often considered by people a source of instant wealth. Unfortunately, such thinking is not true and must be straightened out. You can have fun gambling, but as fun, as it is, remember that gambling carries a higher risk of losing and mental disorders.

Conclusion: what I say can be wrong and can also be right, you can correct what I explain if there is an error. Please share what kind of gambling experiences and patterns you often experience while at the casino.

I'm not completely understand what does these distortion pattern, what can I see the pattern IV is continued from pattern III and I lol, the different is just the pattern II where the gambler are keep losing.

Before gamble, everyone will hope they will always win like the pattern I. But when they're keep losing, they hope they will comeback just like the pattern IV. While the truth most of gamblers will end like the pattern III where they're greedy enough to make profit.

Everyone will don't want to experienced the pattern II while actually 99% of the gamblers will be like that.

Your illustrations are clearly understandable a gambler could only fall victim if him/she feels too confident or somewhat to see themselves as an expert in terms of gambling maybe would possibly say, this shit can't happen to them.

Sometimes someday, i have came encountered of distort pattern III (3) were i made a deposit and predicted some games (Matches) and they all played i was hoping to make a withdrawal something in me asked to place another bet if i could top my balance before withdrawal, so i used about 40% of my balance to place another bet and guess what?

I lost it completely!

The more i tries to recover the lost funds the more i kept losing and i ended up losing all funds at then i say to myself what greedy i mine to myself.

I think pattern 1 and 4 must be statistically infrequent or more infrequent than the other 2. On the other hand, I think we should add another pattern that would be a variation of pattern 1: it would consist of the person who wins, goes home but halfway or as soon as he arrives he gets a compulsion and returns to the casino to end up losing everything and more. I suppose it would be similar to pattern 3, but with a time gap that represents when the player leaves the casino and ends up returning.

I have picked picture two to write on. In the second picture I find it hard to believe that someone will start losing at once they start and continued that way till they have lost all. It is more like what pattern you have in picture three. There is that enticement with first and second attempts before the house begins to take all it has allowed you win. You also said something about being sensible while gambling. That is the advise but most times we do not have the ability to stick to that advise. And that is what brings addiction.

The fourth pattern happens rarely. Not a lot of people can convert a huge loss to a great win. Most of the time, they are just breaking even and not even enjoying the fruits of their labor; they just exerted a lot of effort just to go back to square 1. This is why I don't gamble for achievements nor profits; I gamble just to kill time and enjoy. I am obviously losing money in the long run although I already offset it with what I earn and save + the amount that I use to gamble every week ($20, never over that). The first pattern is a trap that people should avoid. Of course, we're high on our emotions and we'll be thinking that we are in for a treat, but over time, the house wins against us and we'll easily lose our first win.

As like you 30 percent of total gamblers use gambling as an entertainment like a movie.They will enjoy every moment using their money.Next 40 percentage of people use to do gambling as the full time business.They do gambling like a trading,only difference between trading is they can loss the entire money had invested.But in trading we can use stop loss to prevent the huge loss.But in gambling ,they can lose the entire amount in one bet.So trading is far better as a real time business.The gambling should be play with some strategy,instead of playing with out any strategy.The whale of gambling use the gambling for their fun then a real business.Mostly first pattern of game played with the minimum bet as compared to the maximum bet.First loss will spoil your entire mood of game.

Majority of the gamblers distortion pattern will be the third picture. Gamblers experience good win at the beginning deposits, and after few withdrawal they feel more confident and go for large capital deposit which ends with maximum loss and unable to recover the losses. Gambling will have ups and downs and this distortion pattern should also have the key element luck.

When luck gets added automatically the variation will be much and the patterns will change completely. Four distortion patterns can be termed as winning pattern, losing pattern, Control pattern and recovery pattern.

what happens in the field, most gambling platforms or gambling websites use the third pattern by giving a win first to increase the appetite of the players after they are confident with the win, so that players go all-in in the game and in the end it is a loss that picks them up.
from distortion 1-4 is a form of how to play someone's lust so that players want to get more and easier profits.
Basically gambling is a vicious circle, winning is addicted and losing is curious.

I never really thought about how the patterns in gambling would look like. The 4 pictures you gave us are all a simplistic approach, especially the first and second picture are only linear lines which is not so realistic. For me these are the most common scenarios, it either goes well or it's a bad evening and I am losing money. But in either direction there are moves up and down on the line. It's not like I lose two games and then I know I will only lose that night. The pictures make it seem that there is a trend in gambling which of course there isn't. A total loss like in picture 3 rarely happens these days, because I try to have treshold loss in place after which I stop gambling for the day. So once I lose a few rounds in a row and I used all my budget for the week I have to stop gambling. In my opinion such an approach is important to avoid going broke, because once you lose all your money is no more chance to recover. Splitting my bankroll in smaller sizes to gamble each week there is a much higher chance to  recover my losses from the previous week. The last picture is what mostly happens when I run my martingale strategy, there is a loss streak only to be recovered at the end.

Those are all normal patterns in gambling although the first one I would say happen to people who only start gambling and never or almost never I experience a chance that after playing for so long in a casino in a random deposit to directly go and make that big win.

Most common for what I have seen both as my personal experience and those around me is the third option,you win and you think that now I am being lucky or I can't have more bad luck and this is the trap which is correct makes many people to continue gambling and only worse things happen after this like losing everything or even worse coming back and becoming addicted.

Well, in my case, all these patterns are normal and I have gone through them many times. The pattern depends on someone's gambling style and of course the choice of the game, in my opinion, those of us who like to play slots more often fall into "maxwin/lossmax" situations.

In my experience, one pattern is missing, we also have an almost straight line, where we don't win or lose much. It's like some normal play, the opposite of the aggressive style of playing that includes a lot of pushing and rising bets. This aggressive style is usually responsible for these patterns presented by OP.

The first pattern, you deposited money into a gambling site, you win and you withdraw your money. That is not possible in reality for most people but just only few people because if someone gamble and win, he will want to continue to gamble and enjoy it. If the person is not conscious enough, he would later lose and the loss can be max.

The second pattern, in a way you will deposit and never won before losing. This has happened to me before but very not frequent. When I was an addict, I go for small odds, win more bets but lose more amount of money until I lose all due to the small odds I did use to go for.  But this can happen to people that just gamble with the max amount they have.

The third pattern in a way a gambler wins and have confidence to play more but to lose more after winning is very common in gambling if the person continues to gamble at the moment.

I do not believe in the fourth pattern. Every gambler that wants to win should just leave gambling for some days or a week before gambling again after losing if he wants to have the right mindset to use to make profit again from gambling. Comeback is almost not possible in gambling.

First of all, Not all users can easily understood what’s the subject so it's important to have a brief introduction on what’s the objective and the title all about. I used google on the terms and read all throughout to the bottom of your thread just to realize that you are just showing different scenarios of result on gambling but this  is also applicable on things that relates money such as trading since at has risk too of losing and winning by just investing money.




This is a myth, Casino has no control to the outcome of the game since its using RNG. And also most of the games is now live or sportsbook which means the casino has no full on control on determining the result.

I actually believe that majority of the gamblers are stuck on the first pattern- they most likely believe that they will another round of gambling when they bet more.

The problem lies on its cycle of winning. If a person gambles and losses money in the first place, the initial reaction would be to recover it. This cycle has brought about so much damage to gamblers where they have this attitude of retaliating and recovering their losses.

The graphs that you provided OP are very informative- I hope majority of the people would be open and read this information. Thank you, OP!

For now I am in pattern number 3, only once maxwin and so on lose and lose, there are several wins and withdraw but if thinking maybe I still in a lose condition. But for other casino games like blackjack etc besides slots, if it is described in the form of a pattern it may be complicated because there is no maxwin correct me if i'm wrong. Especially in sportsbooks, so not all gambling has the same pattern as above, apologize in my point of view your pattern is suitable for slot games only.

Kinda looks/sounds like you are making simple things more complicated through graphs and stuffs. All those graphs and "distortion patterns" doesn't matter when gambling. If you keep on gambling, in the long run you will end up losing since the casino always wins due to house edge. Your graph 1,2 and 4 only shows short term/run results. The final result will always be the third graph. You win, you keep on playing, you end up losing everything.

In my opinion there is no point in using patterns in gambling because none of us can know what the next bet will be and how much the winnings will bring. It seems to me that using any patterns is similar to technical analysis in trading. I think you have to gamble for fun and limit yourself not to lose too much. Everything else is just lyrics.

I think most users would experience pattern 2 or 3, especially in the long run since casinos are businesses designed to suck the life out of the money of most users. I don't think pattern 1 occurs that much, well in my case that is. I'd experienced pattern 4 more often than 1 tbf (though it's also really rare). Most often than not, pattern 1 just ends up devolving to pattern 2 or 3 since most casino players wouldn't actually quit once winning, they'd rather play more instead.

Because of the house edge, all of these patters will end up in max loss if you keep playing.

The only way to avoid the house edge is playing once, wagering everything you are comfortable with losing.

Then the chart will look like one of these:

https://i.imgur.com/inX2FtM.png

https://i.imgur.com/MeCOlEO.png

Every other little step between the first and the last step are only there to get you one step closer to the max loss.

Play once, either win big or lose big.

This is the pattern that I want to avoid, winning big losing it, and then chasing it to regain all that I've lost, it's very depressive thinking that you should have stopped and withdrawn, and enjoy your earnings, but gambling and greed go together, you always want to extend your earnings and will try to regain what you've lost in the past but its actually wishful thinking, you can't regain all you've lost in one session, its for your own good that you always forget your losses and treat each session as different from what you've had in the past.

Why do you call these patterns "gambling distortion pattern?"

Also, I don't think gambling results could be classified under these 4 patterns. As a matter of fact, results may not even provide you a pattern. Well, if there is, it's that you are probably losing more than winning. And that's expected because there's a house edge so the casino has a higher probability of winning than the player.

The first few gambling results don't make a pattern. The longer you are in the game, the harder it is to find a pattern. Again, except for the fact that you are probably losing more than winning.

First, I experienced the number 2 distortion pattern. I gambled uncontrollably because I had a lot of money in my account. I finally lost all my money. I couldn't control my emotions because I had a lot of money in my account. Then, I tried my luck again and experienced the number 3 distortion pattern. Because I could not provide cash management. I continued playing without withdrawing my profit. I still haven't made much money today. But I gained a lot of experience. I do not repeat the same mistakes. The best distortion pattern that describes my situation today is number 4. I live that pattern cyclically. I can't make much money. But I'm in good spirits. Because I know why I gamble. I just want to have some fun and clear my mind. Of course, these patterns do not fully reflect me. But I think they are patterns that are close to my experience.

I will prefer going by the forth pattern, even though it's not that common but it is the most advisable one fromnme to any gambler to have an experience with, when you start gambling with a particular set amount and realizes loss thennyou look back and learn from your mistakes then go further to experience better winnings than you've ever experienced innthe past which is to me a significant progress over time, most gamblers never keep to learning new ideas in their gambling strategies and this keep them on a single pattern on those loosing as category they belong which shouldn't, we are meant to have a good outcome from our gambling than the bad experience it has always gives those that are not improving on themselves.

Best path is to outlast all these patterns by not responding in an obvious reactionary way.   Start low, build when more comfortable as half of losses in gambling is lack of patience and thats way the game will play you or at best its entirely random in its result.   Most returns arent immediately great, we all wish for luck that quick, most likely strategy to win is to play regular and know when the game will pay out.

I guess you didn't read what the OP wrote or understand it, it is all about the behavioural pattern of gamblers and covers most of it, if not all. It is not about gambling as fun or an avenue to make money as you think, this is just about what the outcome of gambling could be as far as I understand it. This is all about depositing to trade and winning/losing behaviours, and such is what is happening virtually with all gamblers.

You might read it again and reflect on the points to see that it's true.

Oh man, luckily I said that it was just a simple research I was trying to do. So here I forgot to confirm that the pattern described is valid for one entry into gambling or in other words the first time you make a deposit. So it's not a patent pattern in some plays.

I think that's pretty clear about what I'm describing.

And one more thing, not all patterns describe how the individual gambling cycle is. It's a big picture that still has a branching pattern.

I made my own pattern before when playing dice.
10 bets most of the time. I will try to see if I can win until the 10th time and yes, I am doing it manually.
Same bet until the 9th time if I see my loss is higher with a score of 3 wins and 6 losses (for example), I will increase my 10th bet as I think I will have a high chance to win it.
It gets better if the score is 0-9, most of the time I hit the 10th time as a win. But it still doesn't work when you are doing it continuously, there must be a stop or seed change. Then discipline, of course. Chasing losses will doom the strategy. Which I did.

You are right that we should keep things simple, try to play with limited money, and always try to keep our seed money safe. In this way, we may win big if we are very lucky but at least the overall losing can be avoided. You cannot avoid that you can't lose but with some calculation, you can keep yourself in overall profits.


This made me more confused as why these patterns are only valid on the first deposit and why it is not valid at other times  ???
How can we know that in which situation this pattern will play and what circumstances it will be invalid ?

To answer your question is quite simple. That each casino has a different gambling system, the illustration is as follows:
(luck based games like Slots)

You and your friends play at the same time, but the difference is that you play Game A at casino 1 = with a win over 50%. Your friend is playing in game A but in a different casino.

The question is whether it has the same probability of winning or not?

That's why from the start I said all the descriptions I described may or may not be true. It all depends on individual experience, so there's still a lot I might need to hear about the gambling experiences that many people have.

This!
The charts that the OP showed are highly dependent on the number of bets and randomness, for example, the first chart can be obtained using Martingale, but at point 5 (or 6, etc.) there will always be a maximum loss. In fact, it is not clear why complicate simple things and break them into special cases if the most important thing is general patterns. From the fact that we will see several graphs of special cases of gambling, nothing will change.

I thought I was experiencing Gambling Distortion Pattern IV but after getting maxwin, I played a few times. If the results dropped, I immediately stopped because it didn't guarantee I could get an epic comeback. I'd rather stop and enjoy the winning money that I rarely get than lose it.

Gambling carries risks that we must accept and you can smile if the result is a win. But if the result is defeat, you have to swallow the bitter pill and mourn your defeat.

The second pattern is the most common for me which isn't surprising since that's how casinos are designed, and sometimes I can't help but look back to it in order to avoid the same scenario in my next session. The fourth pattern is the rarest for me though as comebacks happen when I don't see them coming, I also experience a similar pattern where my wins and losses alternate but they're not to the point of max wins or losses then it slowly transitions to the second pattern due to the house edge.

In a streak someone has to be extremely luck or unlucky to experience the pattern 1 and 2 respectively but for my knowledge the pattern 4 is quite common and myself there is no exception for it, even when I check the all time stats of my bets on the gambling sites it shown in that way.

I've already experienced the first pattern for several gambling sessions in a row and felt really inspired and excited for that, feeling like the game was under my control and that I could use it at my favour always I needed some money, until at some point I finally hit the second pattern and had to stop gambling for my own good.

Actually, I can say on long run pattern 1 + pattern 2 = pattern 3. It's a pretty common scenario most gamblers must have faced during their gambling journeys.

Martingale system will likely make us experienced all these pattern particularly 1 & 2 with maxwin. Martingale however is just as what OP is saying about controlling. Only the high rollers can enjoy losing streaks.


If one keeps coming back to try his luck, it would appear as if he really sees gambling as the source of instant money. Can't be wiser when he relies on luck.

I disagree with your conclusions about the second pattern. It's a very common pattern in games where the pay out is high, that is to say above 3:1. You necessarily need to lose money before winning a prize. Because 1/4 chances to win, means you have 75% chances to lose, and then you will necessarily encounter losing streaks. You can find for example slot games with a high RTP but a very small hit ratio. In those games, you can lose a huge amount of money at one point but finally make some profits or getting only a small negative PnL at the end.  

I always thought that there is only 2 pattern that is either we win after we deposit or we lose.  There is nothing more I can come out with those patterns but just those two  ;D.  You can refute me because of the simplicity  and I accept that. 

I somehow got the idea that the gambling distortion pattern II can be seen when playing on a very high volatility slot where our bankroll got easily depleted even before hitting those huge jackpots.  As pattern II stated, the player can easily be turned off by this experience and tends to avoid it and some who continues ends up losing all their bankroll.

The behavior given in those patterns is note-taking though. I am sure I experience almost all of it in gambling activity.

The only pattern I know is when you win and you don't get out, you lose max. If you lose and you don't get out, you lose max.

Since you are gambling in a casino, the probability that you will lose is higher than you will win. And that probability keeps on getting higher the longer you play.

If you are gambling just to unwind, relax and enjoy, then winning or losing should not be a problem. Get in there, play, and enjoy. And in the end, you end up with more money, that is just a bonus.

But if you are gambling to win or get more money, then it is a problem. You should never do that, but if you do, try to win the fastest way and get out. If you linger more, the more chances that you will be swept off your money.

All these patterns have been experienced by all gamblers because there's no such thing as always bad days or always good luck in gambling, every session is very much different from all the other sessions, and even if you take these patterns by heart, I don't think you will remember what kind of pattern are you following when you're playing, you'll just realize it after the game or session is over and you have analyzed it, but these patterns are great so you'll know the kind of behavior you have in many of your session.

The patterns set out by the OP are a good summary I think. Although perhaps it would be necessary to qualify the variance, because it is not the same to play games with low probability of winning than safer games with a higher probability. Simplifying, it would be like the difference between playing roulette on a single number or on red or black. In the first case, most of the sessions will be more similar to pattern II than to pattern I. Pattern III and IV will be more likely to occur in games where there is a higher probability of winning on each bet.

This is the pattern type of gambler in crypto that you experience, you even overcome the one who left you the one you loved the most, hehe.....

It's really weird, the kind of person you think you'll never lose, then, in the end, the amount of money you're holding that you won gambling suddenly loses all your winnings until you realize it's all gone your assets on the gambling platform. This promise is so painful, the money that turned into stone.

Here's the percentage of how many gamblers are facing those pattern in the reality:
Pattern I = 1%
Pattern II = 75%
Pattern III = 20%
Pattern IV = 4%

Most people will suffer on the pattern II since house always win, this make gamblers have lower chance to win the games. The second is pattern III where they're have been lucky on few bets and it's cover their previous losses, but since they're greedy they will lose. Then the third is pattern IV, after they're regret to not cash out his winnings, they will keep bet until they comeback. The last is pattern I, this is only for a professional gambler.

I think this pattern could come to new people or beginners which we call beginners lucky.
But after we played the other times, the pattern changed.
We experienced losing more money as many things involved us and many of us can not control the temptation and greediness of gambling and winning some money.

While I am familiar with this pattern as I already experienced it before and in the beginning time, I got losses and could not recover my money.
But after realizing that playing gambling does no need to play until all the money's gone, I stopped it right away before all of the money was gone.

I also experienced this pattern before and it made me lose all of the money because I felt too confident after winning some money.
I continued playing gambling and instead of stopping immediately, I tried my luck but that was not working to give my money back.

I never face that pattern because I never challenge my luck and see what will happen.
I stop gambling when I lose and stay at number 1 and am too afraid to continue because I realize the losing can follow me if I do not stop.
So deciding to stop will be better for me.

I beg to disagree with those numbers eventhough that the house or casino always wins, it isn't always the case for pattern number II but rather most of our gambling activities lean on to the pattern number III.

Also, there are some gambling patterns that hasn't been included as it is more of a combination of the patterns provided. You can be on a losing streak but later end up on a huge winning streak or it can be a win-lose situation but ended on a either losing streak or winning streak.

This is a common belief among non-players, but if you are a regular gambler you will participate to tournaments and promotions on top of the loyalty bonuses you will get. In addition to that, in most casino games you can get a better house edge than the average player by playing correctly and not doing mistakes. So if you are not a bad player you can get money in casinos even on the long run, you won't make huge profits since the rewards from tournaments, promotions and loyalty bonuses are not that big but you can play without losing money not so hardly at least.

Applying the strategy that will suit your gameplay has an edge and will contribute to the successful result of your bet. For long-time players, they value bonuses, promotions, and rewards offered by each casino so as much as possible, they are skeptical of every move they make. It isn't just about betting and running, it should be well-polished so you could have a guarantee of good profit where you could enjoy gambling in the long run. But if you're a non player who only wants to feel entertained, these things will not matter to you.

Yes now there was lots of gamblers who gamble without any propers reason specially they are doing gamble for their personal hoping and there you will able to see more things like that the hotel . Even then there are also lots of gamble addicted players use are also use the promotional but I didn't notice any much big pool who were got it ok that picture. But in most cases, you lose more money than what you win by playing in these casinos.  And besides, I think it's a waste of time.

I was really impressed with your work because you tried to turn complex experiences into a universal parameter using a mathematical language. I am sure that by developing these patterns you can create projections that can cover more people. I wish you success in your work... Too much of everything is harmful. Too much of even the colorful and delicious candies we love so much is harmful. We must keep our need to gamble without turning it into an addiction. Being moderate in everything pushes us to live a happier life...

At the end of the day, you will realize that gambling is not a good option if you are greedy and would likely to gamble for a living than to gamble just for fun. Because the more you gamble, the more you chase your losses, the bigger chances of losing. The reason why a gambler should learn to gamble only on his extra funds and not to risk the money that is intended for the bills.

I agree the longer you play the chance for you to lose everything is likely to happen, but betting everything in one go will take out much of the entertainment side of it, imagine you login bet everything then get out whether you win or lose, it will not keep you 5 minutes in the casino, I have not done this before I don't know how many are doing this but maybe those who take gambling as it is, log in, bet everything then logs out  :D

Lets say you are really allocating funds for the sake of leisure or entertainment but the longer you are doing this the more chances or likely you would really be molding yourself as an addicted player.

Its impossible that you wont really be having those thoughts in mind that after all the money you had spent and lost in gambling, then you would really be that desperate on playing for more and hoping
that you do have just to break even at least.
Gambling is never intended nor was being created for the sole purpose of making yourself rich but rather its for entertainment.People had just go into certain extent which is too much.

I think the fourth pattern of play is the most dangerous, because when you have a few moments of big wins in the midst of several unsuccessful bets, the player feels motivated to place more bets believing that in the end he is managing to make up for the losses, or at least you feel more confident to continue playing because you know that at some point or another you will win again, but winnings usually cannot cover all losses.

I guess I can speak for everyone about this whenever we try to do a comeback to our gambling session after a loose streak, we often encounter a loop of pattern III whereas we deposit once again and after winning a few times we end up losing everything again. This is also where greed comes in as we try to continuously gamble even after losing a few times already in hopes of winning back our losses. And, yes, this is a dangerous way to gamble, and this is why it's important to assess our gambling activity and know when to stop whether it's on loss or not.

It's where it's going. You promise to yourself that you're just going to gamble just to have fun and get entertained. But little did you know that as you stay to gamble and you're making such losses, that's changing things that you've told to yourself before you gamble.
And you'll find that in the long run as you do it at most times. It could be a leisure for sometime but when you're unable to control it, you know where you're going and that's into being addicted.

You are actually right on all these point of yours, and base on my experience and what i have seen in the gambling industry i will like to add one more which i will be calling "Gambling distortion pattern No 5 which represents people who win huge bet with casino bonuses and because of greed, tends to lose all the funds to gambling with the mindset that because he once won, he could win again, forgetting the fact that at times, its a matter of luck, like you can see in the rough sketch below.
https://i.ibb.co/1JY74mZ/Polish-20221010-113426631.jpg (https://ibb.co/1JY74mZ)

We don't always have to keep losing or winning at gambling games. it can be like a bitcoin chart, it will not always keep losing, there will definitely be a win in gambling life like that. in brackets we must be able to manage money, how do we assume our money is not too burnt in gambling games and can instead get profits and enjoy the results. control emotions to control play

I would say that the pattern is so true, and as the OP says, we as gamblers have experience it through our journey. I guess the most reward for me, is to make a epic comeback. Have I experience it many times already, when I regret that I should go home with that big money that I have won. However, I felt greedy, and wanted to comeback and then when you thought that you are going to lose and about to leave the casino, suddenly you made that epic comeback, at least break even or won more than what you win the first time, feels really good, lol.

Definitely, as a gambler you should know it, you can't win all the time and it depends on how you handle the situation. So whatever you call it, distortion pattern or others, still based on our luck that day you gamble.

Emotions is one big part, because as gamblers it's really hard to control, when you are winning you don't know when to stop. When you are losing, you want to comeback and recoup and it will be either you win big or go home and take the walk of shame.

the most difficult thing to give up a lot of money being burned for free and want to come back again, that's a bad thing that will happen. sacrificing that debt only makes us lose something valuable for an unsecured money back. I've experienced something like this, common sense will be disturbed to be confused about which path to take

-  This is what we gamblers often experience whether it is crypto or traditional gambling. And this thing we cannot avoid because it is twin or tail to our gamblers. Sometimes we are also surprised, even though we know that winning is all about luck in gambling, most of us still play, maybe because others think they might be lucky to win big and others play because they are greedy.

But this is the destiny of most of us gamblers in crypto gambling to lose often in the game that exists in gambling in this industry.

It's also the most fun and thrilling experience because you never knew that you could win your very last bet. It happens to me before a couple of times for both autobet/normal play and martingale. It's true that you are going to be motivated to try again because your balance are once again replenished.

Sometimes I can bust all what I got or if I am lucky to have a control that time, I will go home with some winnings. Now the practice that I am doing is that ill just withdraw most of money first and then left only some so that I can play on them recklessly. I don't reposit because I have enough already but ill go back again the next day or two.

I understand that you completely invented this statistic? After all, if we take into account that the casino/bookmaker has a not so big advantage (1-5%), then 75% of players who have constant losses look like absurdity? No one would gamble if everything was so sad.
And even if you get the right statistics, then in fact I do not understand what its practical value is.

This is a good insight.

Distinguishing the pattern that most of the gamblers went through can really help them to assess themselves and perhaps improve themselves as well, for their development and betterment. Knowing that there's pattern and actually seeing that you belong to one of them could make you reflect and ask yourself why do you even go looping and looping even if it brings you no good? It could help you be better and do better in playing and in setting limitations for yourself that you will follow.

I've seen many people fall victim in number 3 , wherein they hit big and then it triggered them to bet more and more, thinking they would keep on winning. Little they did know that they lose more often without them actually noticing because they are engrossed with winning the jackpot again. This kind of scenario is common and a lot of people are trapped in this habit of repeatedly betting without thinking the consequences because they just focus on the thought that they will eventually win again and get back all of their losses in a snap.

It's a hard habit to break because some people became dependent on gambling already and it became a routine and fixated in the mind already. They have to gradually withdraw so that they won't experience relapse, and have proper guidance, self-limitation, and treatment if needed.

Right, and that will be the trap for us gamblers, just imagine the feeling that you are out with your last bet and then win it big? Your capital is replenish and so you go back to play and hope that you will continue to have successes.

Good practice, but our enemy is our emotion, maybe yes you withdraw your winnings and left some funds. But what if if you lose again, will you go deposit and stop completely?

I think most of us will deposit some more money if we lose that day. We seem to not care about previous losses and depositing money again, it may make us think that we want to recover the money lost due to previous losses or we feel that our luck is coming today.

But it will be good if we don't deposit any more money another day and decide to take a break from gambling because of previous losses. And maybe it also allows us to prevent addiction problems that may come.

For a beginner, this is not the worst pattern of results. I would even say good. Patterns 1 and 4 are much more dangerous because the beginner gets a positive experience of gambling and at the level of experience he has the “knowledge” that you can make money in gambling. But as we know, this is an erroneous assumption, which is why those who play for profit end up losing everything (and even getting into debt) if they cannot stop in time.

But the longer you play can sometimes lead you to hit your desired multiplier. This is why once I continue playing for a long time, I never stop anymore or reset my seed, or reload the page because I can sense that I am close to my target. I think that postponing the game and then trying to come back later on, will only restart all the progress that I made earlier. That's only for me but for some, maybe they have a different betting style and they never think that previous plays can affect their recent session.

If you gamble for profit then you can all in your bets and leave whatever the result will be but if you are playing for fun then you need to budget your bets to be able to achieve it.

Almost all the gamblers had fall into this category having first experience in making deposit to gamble with and loose everything, well I don't see this as a challenge that is bad enough to make a gambler withdraw from gambling except if the gambler make the very wrong mistake by depositing a huge amount and use all to gamble at once, that could be a stupidity which could be common to most newbies in gambling, but aside this, having a first attempt on loss does not mean failure but a retry for the next attempts while you must have learnt possible mistakes from the first attempt.

I like this, it looks like the way I can think about it too, that most people only gamble for a means to make money and what they eager more about is winning and not about making use of gambling to entertain themselves, because of this, more gamblers lose while the gambling sites are making money daily, that is not a lie. But where did you get this stat?

I bet you didn't bet much. If that were the experience of the vast majority of gamblers, casinos would not exist long ago. There is no thrill in a downward downward line. After a while, you just know from experience that you're going to lose.

If gamblers get hooked on gambling, it is precisely because they occasionally win. So, I think it would be more accurate to represent it with a line with ups and downs, although with a downward trend in the long term. It would be that line but with small peaks upwards.

I prefer pattern 4 which can change our emotions very quickly, but unfortunately more often in pattern 3 when playing, at the beginning we get a win and continue to be tempted to get like pattern 1 which unfortunately does not match expectations and ends in pattern 3.

Most of the patterns are applicable to me is the third one upon playing, of course, getting greedy and making another bet which takes me back to the loss instead of getting profit and continuously playing just like five games before getting my loss back and of course once I hit a good profit that's the time I stop playing for a while to make sure there's a profit for that day, I always set my self to have a limit wage and profit per day so there's a chance that still control the number of money I deposit upon playing.

I think this 2nd pattern is only for beginners who enter gambling, without knowing the basics of the game, it can be said that capital is reckless and just wants to try it

and it happened to me in the past even though at this time I am not professional like you guys here, in the end I left the platform

This 4th gambling distortion pattern is very interesting in my opinion. When you are mentally unable to resist that gambling always loses, but there is also an unexpected victory that suddenly comes and it is a big win, because you gamble with a large final capital. It's Epic Blast. This 4th gambling distortion pattern plays with mentality to a higher level and makes anyone stressed and the capital in gambling will also get bigger because of the initial wins and then consecutive defeats.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScKPEIg62eI

When observing the 4th gambling distortion pattern, I remember one of the same films and describes this pattern, namely the film entitled "Win It All (2017)" (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3155328/) which tells the story of a small gambler who is given the task of keeping a bag filled with very large amounts of money. crime ) and then for some reason use it to play gambling which at the beginning of the game he wins and then he loses continuously until the money it ran out and he had to replace it.
But with his determination and advice from his friend to do one more gamble and be the last one to be able to win the gambling. and the result is an unexpected big win that can replace the money he used and make his life change and get out of gambling. it's a very inspiring film and fits perfectly into this 4th Gambling Distortion Pattern.

Not necessarily, as we know in most gambling games luck is the most predominant factor that is always at play so regardless of how knowledgeable you are about the game you could still exhibit that pattern of wins and losses as it has nothing to do with that or your skill, and if anything it should be the most common pattern of all because as we know the house edge is  working against you, so out of the 4 scenarios presented by the OP this should be the one faced most often by gamblers.

Yes, this is so true, I have sessions in either landbase or online wherein I have a certain budget on my wallet and play it however, whatever games I played, blackjack, baccarat and slots, it seems I can't find any success and so that capital I have is being swept very fast as I'm very very unlucky.

I'm not saying that I'm a pro, but I have experience in gambling and not newbie and yet I experienced the second pattern from time to time.

And this is natural as even if the house edge may seem to be small it has a huge effect the more you gamble, so the second, third and fourth pattern should be the ones that we experiment more often, the one that is really rare is the first one as even professional gamblers may not get to experience it, because even if they can find a way to get themselves an edge over the casino they cannot win all the time so it is more likely they experiment the fourth pattern more often.

^Naturarily, the pattern shows more loss and that is pretty normal when you are against the house edge as we know the house edge will always win in the long run. That is why we always set the money that we can afford to lose and if you lose on that day session, it is better to have a break and come back when you are ready, this pattern will help us to determine our limit and should always remember to have stop-loss which I though only applicable in trading but it also in gambling. Overall, gambling is not means of making money, it is more interesting to have fun.

Yeah, that's why it is very difficult to quit when you are winning, I will admit myself that I was taken away by this kind of emotions. But I guess if we can say that gamblers maturing as some point, we should realized that it's better to quit and go home or exit when we are in a big win. We don't want to get carried away just because we have recovered already as per distortion 4 and wanting more. Just like night I have experience this, I started playing and make good money in the first 10-20 minutes. But after that my luck has change, but I have the mental fortitude to go home with still have some winnings in my wallet, this is in a land base casino by the way.

What i know really that some of the gamblling sites does is to bring many people into their platform with high bonus and after the bonus tye will just go away, so this is what i noticed that gambling platforms does and especially the new gambling website, so i believe that many people do enter there traps, gambling is something you will scrutinized; before you go to the platform to bet. Some people gamble out of curiosity of winning a noble prize

I would agree with that pattern but when you enter with welcome bonuses and impossible wagers, for example, like 30x or 50x, I think that in that case that pattern would be fulfilled in its entirety, although that pattern is that many casinos accept being able to survive everything, there are people who are very experienced who can break with that behavior, I don't know, but there are people who are very patient, and aside from people who like to follow everything by methods to achieve things, I think that methodical and repetitive people They are the ones that have the greatest success in being able to get out of patrons like that one who are such losers, especially when there are players who are hyperactive.


Well, the bonus thing is something that will always exist and yes, if the casinos offer it, it is because it will obviously benefit them, for a player this is very good because they think that a bonus will give them more opportunities to win, it is more money to play more apart from the one who plays, however, we or very few know that when playing in a game or in a casino in the long term, it is most likely that you tend to lose, and it is something normal, as they say orahí: "The house always has the advantage" and we as players compete against the game, against the house and against randomness, which is something much more complicated, so if you see it from that point of view it would be much better.

I would agree with how hard it is to discern pattern 3 and pattern 4 from each other. But these are real algorithms online gambling sites use to abuse their regulars and even beginners so OP is doing us a favor. In my opinion, Pattern 4 isn't necessarily a win-lose-win-lose pattern, it could be a -win-win-lose-lose-win-win or a different pattern with a regular win-loss interval. That at least makes it easier for you to recognize the fourth pattern. Third pattern is very challenging to recognize, so I could only say little about it. I would also agree with your sentiment as losing isn't always to be blamed to the house, the gambler could also be overtaken by his greed hence pattern three will commence.

All your distortion patterns are truly correct.
I've experienced them all and that's one major reason I concur with you.
I also experienced this distortion firstly in trading and it wasn't an easy one tho but we survived.
Most of this distortion also happens when one gambles emotionally and doesn't know their limits.
No one starts a thing, especially with money and expect to make a loss, which then applies to the pattern I, where one makes and starts with profit, then hopes gets high and the quest to make more comes in which might drive he/she to patter II, where there's continues loss and if suddenly hits pattern III, they think they know all in playing and still hope to get revived to pattern I, which at the most ends, leads to total loss of capital and winnings.

Gambling is addictive and one should gamble responsibly, as no one will be held responsible for your mental health.

This situation can be viewed from the point of view of the organizer of gambling. 

Gambling is like a movie script.  Gambling must be exciting, the player must constantly experience emotional swings.  There must be transitions from hope to despair, and despair must be followed by winning and receiving a cash prize.  If a player is constantly losing, then he will lose interest in gambling very quickly. 

All these points should be considered already at the stage of creating an online casino or programming a slot machine.

Taking responsibility for gambling is difficult and not many can do it. Meanwhile, if we can really be responsible when we play gambling, we will not cross the limit we already have and will stop immediately when the limit is almost reached. That can all change when we experience many losses because of the loss of responsibility that we have guarded. It's all because we see a losing streak and instead of deciding to stop, we try to recover from that loss. So being responsible is indeed difficult but we really have to try to avoid losing too much.

Indeed, but is that all?

These patterns are usually not being observed by players. Gamblers just tend to continuously play; lose and win; like a loop. The idea of gbling is really mysterious and amazing at the same time. Gambling houses seems like they are the ones who plays with the players like one of the normal opponents who reads people's emotions around in order to come up victorious. What's funny is how people react with these patterns wherein they tend to reflect like "yeah i felt that before... and this one". In a wide persepective a gambler's emotion can be seen either happy or worried but there is really more to that. Now, many people more likely get the idea behind "house always win" in every gambling activity 'coz house itself is aware of these patterns.

The only consistency in gambling is you depositing more money. Whether you lose, win, win big, lose big, keep winning or keep losing is not something you can predict with patterns, I would think. Since gambling is based on probability with the house edge outweighing the probability of you making any money in the long term (if you keep gambling for a long time, that is.), there is no point in trying to recognize patterns. In fact, a mathematical model of mentioned probabilities and the variables and constants involved in the equation would probably serve you better than a model of patterns.

If we observe, these two first patterns become connected after a while playing:

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So they merge and result in the third pattern, if the player is unlucky, and inevitably on long run for every players:

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Or they merge and result in the fourth pattern, if the player is lucky for some time yet, and if he has more money to deposit and keep his bankroll alive for more bets:

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Anyway, after an epic comeback, the third pattern will hit again sooner or later, because that is how the house edge's effect is supposed to work.

I think the gambling distortion pattern 3 is the most and relevant pattern among all mentioned, I have experienced that a lot of times even yesterday, I am going to share my yesterday experience with the community later, but for now, I did like to say that gambling is fun, but it remains fun only if you don't get addicted, and how not to get addicted is by gambling consciously, gambling carelessly is one of the fastest way to get addicted even before you know it, ask some persons how they got addicted to gambling and the response would be "I don't actually know how I got to this stage".
So this is call to gambler out there to watch it, careless living leads to live threatening mistakes, so also, careless gambling leads to a future full of regrets. 

I don't think that the pattern presented are about the any probabilities or something that we predict as a gambler but rather those are just representation on what most of us experience during our gambling sessions. It'll be hard to predict outcomes on gambling especially on luck based games as too much variable and random factors could occur.

Just as the patterns shown, those are what most of us encounter when gambling as we can be on a winning streak or a losing streak or even both.

It's not clear at all. However, this makes some sense. If you study these charts well, you will notice that, in general, gambling is quite predictable, and all this can be traced and predicted as the next step. However, sometimes, much depends not on the game's tactics but the casino itself. This is especially true for online casinos. After all, there are many casinos where it is almost impossible to win anything; everything is done so that you lose. I have faced this many times. An overview of the various casinos on nettikasino (https://tuxedo.org/) can help all those new to the casino world. So this review will help much more than a strange graphic. However, it must be admitted that you have done a good job.

Without a doubt the third pattern is the most dangerous of all the patterns shared by the OP, and the reason is simple, when we are gambling is not rare that we can win several times in a row, however if we keep gambling it is also natural that we are going to face several losses in a row too, but at the time it is going to be difficult for a lot of people to accept this and they will keep gambling hoping to recover the money they lost, only to eventually fail and then lose even more money, this can create great anguish on the minds of the players and if this process repeats itself several times then a gambling compulsion could appear.

That makes gambling so interesting you feel alive and kicking, and all the emotions are there after your session you always like to come back not because you want to regain your losses you just want to be alive again by having these emotions, it's like you remember when you are young and you are in a tense basketball game or cheering for your favorite squad who is losing and needs to rally, gambling brings back the memories where you are so alive.

Were you a psychology major in college or something? lol.  This outlay you've done here is pretty interesting and is giving me flashbacks of several of my courses of the course of my college career.  Maybe the only college textbook I read cover to cover was that of my Psychology course and that was because I couldn't understand my professor's accent so I would go to my school's library to read that days chapter, which I would get more out of than trying to understand my professor.  Anyways this is an interesting mock up that reminds me of those days and many things I learned in that realm. Well done. 

Pattern numbers 3 and 4 have a relationship, because basically players will always come back to play whatever the result as long as they still have the funds will come back to play whatever the motivation is either to win or because they want to get fun, it becomes no longer fun when experiencing consecutive defeats but there are players who gamble only for entertainment.

I'm sure many can relate to this illustration. Almost most of the crypto gamblings, when there is a new depositor on their platform, will first give it a win as a trap for new gamblers.

I was one of those who experienced this too because the gambling platform made me experience winning no matter how much, but in the end, I still lost. But even though that happened to me, I thought that I might experience winning like that or more again, this is what was planted in my mind, but that didn't happen. It's always a loss if experienced and if I win maybe only 2 times out of 10 plays.

They do, people gamble hoping not only to obtain a monetary reward but also to experience all kind of emotions in the process, so after they begin a good session and then luck turns against them they expect that the pattern number 4 materializes and they can make an epic comeback, but unfortunately the pattern that appears more often is the third one, at that point some gamblers may get so mad that they may even claim the games are rigged, but they know the truth, they had the opportunity to end the session early as winners, but instead got greedy and lost everything.

I also think i'm suited to pattern 3 because that's how it started. You'll experience to win in gambling and got hooked thinking the same result might happen again and so it's the start of your gambling activity. However, i'm not the type who will chase my losses because I can't accept what happened. I still gamble because it's fun and entertaining and that's the reason why I keep playing. Of course it's really nice to win but we know it can't happen often as the house always win.

Thus it's best not to have high hopes so you can control yourself to refrain from depositing to chase back what you have lost.

Pattern 3 is the most related scenario other than pattern 2 (we often never win and start with a lose streak which we will call it for the day) since we often get lucky on our first few bets however if we continue betting, we encounter a losing streak from which if we don't notice it early on, we might end up chasing for our losses and lose all our bankroll. But for some people who will notice the lose streak early on then, they might be able to retain their winnings but that doesn't happen oftentimes as we are caught up with the excitement of our wins.

Slots are designed to constantly "reward" you with small wins.... but if you look at the larger picture, you will notice that the graph are showing that the casino are gradually sucking all your funds in the long run.

The small wins are insignificant, when you compare it to the constant losses.... so it is very much like the theory of the slow boiled frog. (if you put a frog in a pot filled with pleasantly tepid water and gradually heat it, the frog will remain in the water until it boils to death.)

That is why people are saying..... If you continue playing, the house always wins.  ::)

That is a good visual representation of different types of gambling zones one has encountered in their lifetime.
Unfortunately I have never experienced the first one where I keep on winning the bets.
I have surely encountered the second one few times one my bad days.
The third one is most frequent for me where I win in the beginning but eventually lose in the end.
I have experienced the fourth one as well but it rarely happens.

Gamblers already know that but the problem is that the slot providers make in between this slow sucking process of the casino what is called the bonus round which of course most of the times do not give you that big wins but fewer times these bonus rounds gives the players huge win with up x5000-x100000 of that bet and it is exactly this that makes gamblers come back despite knowing that in the long run the casino with the house edge wins always but the gamblers are after these huge wins and that is what keeps gamblers come back with that usual pattern that they keep depositing more by chasing these wins.

I think it depends. There are people that once they win, they will never show up again. It's amazing that they also knew that it was only a kind of lure that once they came back, their previous won are going to be confiscated again and then they will be forced to deposit their own money in hopes of winning it back. I think these kind of people are already born to be wise in life. Many call it beginners luck and believes on it than the other way around.

Well, I guess there is nothing we can do much about them. I know you are treating gambling for fun but you said keep on coming back from it? I think addiction can also build up there. It's important that we still limit ourselves.

There's no wrong on still continuing to gamble as long you are really still in good control in your finances and behavior then i dont see anything wrong or making yourself that addicted.
Gambling wont really be a problem if you do really have that good self control because if not then you would really be having a huge problem which would really be in related with addiction.
Dont make yourself get control nor tolerate these things because it isnt really something worth on destroying on someones life because of gambling.
Everything should be in control or in moderation.

If we keep going back to the casino, it's obvious the addiction can build from there because, slowly, we think that we want to recover from our losses and end up depositing more in the hope that we will win. But as wise gamblers, we must think that we should not deposit more money to recover the losses but instead, we try to deposit as much money as we can afford and just try to have fun. And I agree that if we can get a win, we must be able to refrain from continuing the game and preferring to stop for a while and avoid gambling for a while is a good way to go.

That's how gambling works, only a small portion or few people wins the slot games and those are the lucky one who has a lot of time and money to play the game, I tried to track my slot games and the winning and losing total amount is just near to each other but still good profit I get and after that, I didn't play for a while just to get funds, that's why gambling seems like to only have afforded to lose a lot and risk, ideal to track those gambling activities if still ideal to play or losing too much.

It's indeed not advisable to chase winnings after winning consecutively the same way with chasing a winning after consecutive losses. Both aren't really a good idea because it could develop addiction on the gambler's side. You can go in the repeated cycle if you will keep on doing that and eventually, you'll find a hard time to break the chain to that cycle.

Refrain yourself from going beyond your set limitations so that you won't go over your allocated budget for gambling and you won't be dependent on it. Just set a fixed target of number of bets regardless of wins and losses and stop if you already consumed your tries. Do not be so greedy and hungry for the profit because it isn't really guaranteed.

that's true
3rd pattern is usually the most common because the house always has an edge and in the long run most of the gamblers (like the day traders) will lose money.

4th pattern may be possible out of luck but quite unusual.

And it does not really help that in the game of slots you can see some of the worst odds you can find at most casino games, and the speed of the game can be quite fast so you can bleed money if you are not having your lucky night, still for those that are only gambling for fun this is not much of a problem, but for those that may like to make money with their gambling this is terrible news because there is not much you can do to try to improve your performance when playing slots.

Maybe one day we will be able to win streaks and that should be more than enough for us to say stop because if we continue, we have the potential to experience consecutive defeats as well. But we rarely get those winning streaks, so appreciate what we've got rather than keep chasing win after win. We should already know that it's not easy, so we have to know ourselves and stay within the boundaries we have set. Losing and winning is normal but deciding to stop is very difficult, especially when our emotions have gone up from before. This is what we have to control so as not to lose more money.

You did a nice job with your graphing but I think your numberings aren't that we'll placed.
My area of most interest is in that if the graph 3 when one makes a deposit and start making wins and along the line, Al you could account for are total loses despite all your efforts.
Most cases, I feel at times that those casinos lure greedy people by first giving them a win and then drag them to making losses and I feel that most of those stuffs and games are actually manipulated and decietful and very common in most non reputable casinos.
On the other hand, I also feel the faults comes from the players at the long run because contentment is lacking which is a great key in gambling..the moment one learns how to be contented, then he has won 75 percentage of the casino tricks and when one makes such losses, the players tends to return back with more money and capital to recover it's losses and tend to indulge in revenge gambling which at the end are mostly favourable.

it's interesting that most of the cases will follow statistical distribution with odds slightly better for the house
but there'll be outliers on these patterns

case 4th reminds me of this

some people go against the odds
call it luck if you want.

First, I'm sorry Sir, I'm going to contradict what you said a little bit. First, we know as a gambler that gambling is really bad. We just say that there is nothing wrong or bad as long as we don't apply it to our fellow man. But because we think that if we have control over our gambling it becomes correct in our assumptions and opinions.

However, since we can't stop ourselves from gambling because it gives us pleasure or happiness, it turns out that it is not bad or wrong in the eyes of us gamblers even though we know to ourselves that it has risks in the end...

some say the difference between the poison and the medicine is the dosage
supposing someone can control themselves and gambling is just something they do for entertainment, not an addictive behavior, it should be fine

but I'd agree with you that most of the times it's not like that.

It could be wrong if it's negatively affecting our lives. If we're losing everything, breaking relationships, and having an unhealthy mental state then we're already experiencing gambling addiction due to abusive and extensive betting.
Lack of self-control and self-discipline could ruin our lives and if we don't apply these things in gambling, we could create wrong decisions based on our emotions. Gambling itself isn't bad but things will depend on how we deal with it.

yes, I'd say gambling is a tool or a "thing" that is available" and is probably somewhere between the neutral and the bad zone.
managing oneself in terms of emotions and actions being in tune with what they want for their own lives is key.
really important.

Perhaps this is a subjective impression, since we do not know all the statistics, and the news is mostly negative. For example, we can easily see a news report about how someone lost everything in gambling and killed himself, but we never read the news about how "John Smith visited the casino today, drank a couple of glasses of beer and after a couple of card sessions went home satisfied".

not so hard to imagine for these ones

I'd guess that the bad effects of gambling (people losing more than they can afford and everything that comes in this pack) will be bigger than the good effects (the fun people will have)

but I don't know, would like to see more data on that too

In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster

isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster

You wouldnt really be ending up on a disaster if you are really having that limitation and being aware in towards your actions.Gambling is for entertainment but it do turns out that majority is really having that wrong

impression and beliefs that they do mold on and this is the reason on why things becomes being more desperate and on the time that they've been fucked up by gambling then this is where realization begins.

Dont make yourself that desperate on getting wins because in gambling there's always a slim chance for you to make yourself get out with profits.
Most of the time you would really be that empty handed which you should make yourself that prepared.

People who is losing gambling and people who is winning gambling it is dependable on them or how they predict their own game so I believe that nobody is one of the most things that before you mean it you must understand the concept so they are form nobody should blame or give any draught that the dishes are gambling goes for someone to me I believe that it is good to give your own reasons it was meaning of gambling and does not gambling

Indeed. All it takes is discipline. However, the sad reality is that, not everyone possess it. Which is the reason why a lot of gamblers suffer from addiction.

Some people have a hard time setting up boundaries and limitations. And they even find it more difficult to actually obey and follow it once they have made it because they don't have the discipline to do so. They tend to crave for more and instead of suppressing it, most of the time they give in. There's really nothing wrong in gambling and betting as long as you are doing it moderately and responsibly. It just turns out bad the moment you prioritize it over anything else and put it in the pedestal of your life.

Chasing winnings should be a no-no too if you want to keep your sanity because being desperate on winning and being greedy on taking the prize will just cost you so much. Remember, gambling shouldn't be your thing to rely on to earn money. It could be an additional stream of income for you, but don't let it be your main because it has so many risks and it isn't really guaranteed you'll win everytime. Always prepare for the worst, so never ever bet all of what you got just for the sake of having "fun".

Some do make out recommendation and suggestion but eventually failed up to be applied into themselves which is really that a shame.Each person does have their own level of discipline and control on various things.

Just like myself where i do already picture out on what are the probabilities for me to be get addicted with gambling which i didnt really let myself get involved too much or spend up much money.

Tendency and chances would really be there and this is where you should really be careful with it.If you dont like to be get addicted then you shouldnt really make
yourself engage on it too much.

I suppose it has a lot to do with genes, dopamine and emotional control

some people are just better with dealing with stressful situations and can control better after facing losses
others engage in revenge betting to try to "make it all back in one trade"
so forth and so on

Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work, it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds. It’s essential to get back all losses. So you need to improve the game again and again for the longer period as compared to the essential one for the players. Loss is not a permanent one for the player involved in the game of gambling all the time.

This is such a dangerous mindset.

If you will condition your mind to chase winnings after losses, you are most likely to lose than to win. This is because your mental headspace and capacity after a loss is not enough to handle any more stress and pressure that could lead to losing.

Even if you have enough fund, it isn't really advisable to bet based on your emotions and loss as your driven force. It's one of the great recipe for disaster IMO.

totally agree
what do you think is the best strategy if someone want to play?

maybe setting a fixed amount of money to bet and stopping if they lose it all or after earning a set %?
or maybe setting a time alarm to stop after X hours.

Most of the time which people do eventually stop when they do busted up all of their balance or have lost it all and have nothing to bet.This is the usual case and something
very common scenario or condition which a certain person would be having.When doing gambling then of course you should really be aiming for you to make out
some entertainment and winning is really just a bonus and as a person who do really mind about his finances then he should really be having
that control and could stop mid way if he wanted to.

yes, most popular strategies are probably on the realms of:
- limiting bank roll
- limiting total time available for gambling
- stopping after winning
- having a guardian angel to help you not to get to emotional

rational mind helps, but most of the times we aren't rational after all.

That's right, and that lends itself to many interpretations, because I know people who say that you shouldn't be negative and it's not that it's negative, but rather that you have to evaluate the possible scenarios where that is going to be the case, it's more feasible than when one enters a casino that one can lose than win, that is something that is obvious, but there are many people who enter with the hope and make it in their head that they are going to multiply their money, and maybe if they enter like this and do so It is something that went well for them, but it is not a guarantee that it can happen again, so it is better to be somewhat more realistic, keep in mind that one must have the money willing to lose and not delude oneself with false hopes/gains.

I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.

I don't have the exact distortion pattern especially describing how my gambling distortion pattern is. after all, it is not explained here that this pattern is only for casino games or all kinds of gambling including sportbooks. if you refer to the casino gambling pattern, the results will be messier like the pictures you put on your thread. because after all, it will be very difficult to recover losses from each casino gambling session.

But if for sportbook, I can do it. at least I have knowledge that I can rely on to bet on this type of sports betting. even if I put a parlay slip with 3 bets. my probability is very high to win the bet slip. and if input on the distortion graph, the first image could be the one that represents the suitable option for me. but again, this refers to the distortion of sports betting.

I used to use martingale, mostly it'd work fine but then there would be this losing streaks where they don't appear to stop and you lose it all.

Gambling pattern 4 can turn a gambler into a gambler, which is what most gamblers have experienced. And remember that luck will not always come to you, so you don't need to chase more wins or try to recover losses you have experienced. But if you are trying to use more money to chase more wins or recover losses, it can turn you into a gambler addicted to gambling. The desire to repeat winning will keep coming without you being able to hold it in and that's when you will experience bigger losses.

this has a big relation with dopamine systems too
people get addicted to the rewards and usually forget the risk they have on a determined situation
many times rationality is more important than emotion

And no matter what you do that losing streak will always appear as that is how probabilities work, after all the more you double your bet and the more you use the martingale strategy the more likely it becomes that you will suffer a catastrophic loss.

So while martingale may give the impression to be an infallible strategy when it finally fails it does so in such a way that you will lose the majority or all your capital, and since it is inevitable that this will happen you might as well give up on using this strategy.

The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.

In gambling, martingale strategy is useful, but if the luck is not attained or achieved, the loss would be far worse and more significant than playing without it. I can not encourage anyone to use martingale strategy while gambling. But it can be useful in some useful games in casino, but I find it not useful in many games, especially those with odds lower than 1.3 or any odd that if you lose four or five times, more than 3x or more is not guaranteed.

This is absolutely true, the best for addicts is to just tell his people, let them know about his addiction and how to cure himself of the addiction would become nearer to him. But some people are addicted and they still think luck could come, but failing again and again in more money losses.

This is true. Emotions play a big role in the chances of winning or losing the game. If you don't have enough mental headspaace to grasp the things happening and is currently experiencing negative vibes, you should definitely stop playing. This is to avoid the higher possibility of you losing in the game. The moment you knew you are not mentally capable of playing because you are already low-spirited, you should slow down and take a break.

Chasing winnings won't do you any good. Instead of winning, you might end up losing in repeating manner without you even noticing it because you keep on playing just to win. Strategies and risk analysis are essential in winning the game. If you can't do it at your present state, then do not play and bet. Otherwise you'll just lose your funds.

A gambler at first bets and plays just to try and have fun, but by being able to win bets, greed will appear to be able to win all bets and gambling games, so it will be more difficult to be able to control emotions when playing.
From this, at first just trying it, but a feeling of greed for victory and being able to make money instantly by gambling arises, someone will become a gambling enthusiast.
They don't realize and think about the risks that can be obtained when they become a gambling enthusiast who has high emotions in betting.
They are even willing to do anything to be able to place bets, even though the money they have has run out, they are still trying to get money by borrowing only to be used as their betting capital.

Nice post, on the surface, but I can't see the usefulness...

For starters, you haven't even defined gambling distortion, though, so I'm really unclear on what's being demonstrated or proven here. Distortion suggests what we perceive is different to what actually happens. And what are stages 2 and 3?

I do keep pretty decent records for one of my "strategies" since it involves low frequency bets, high rewards. My gambling patterns, if timebound by season, aren't anything like that -- if using this strategy, it's many stages of continuous losing streaks and epic wins scattered around.

Casino gambling's probably also the same, far fewer wins than losses, because of my style and house edge preference.

I think it's fine to get stuck in the positive side but it's almost impossible to remain there because in gambling, we are mostly prone to losses so our mood can also shift to being negative. It might stay there after some time so the goal is like you said, stop playing for a while and let this bad luck subside first.

There are still ways to be happy outside gambling or even without money involved, if money is the main thing that keeps you coming back in the gambling place. It's only hard to fight the urge once a person is addicted already but they can ask for a help or the people around them can also do actions. If they are truly concerned.

But most gamblers will not say they have a gambling addiction and only say everything is fine. And if they are honest, it will let those around them know about their problems and help them solve them.

That's why we must be able to regulate emotions when playing gambling because temptation during play will cause him to make the wrong decision instead of stopping for a while after experiencing tension in playing gambling. Slowing down and taking a break is a good way to go, especially if we have been on a losing streak because later, we can be triggered to recover from the losses we have experienced and if that happens, we will use more money.

Don't be too passionate about chasing victory, especially when we have won several wins, because we can be trapped by defeat after winning. We should stop and regulate our emotions so we can reduce the tension.

But the problem is that most of them get stuck on the negative side and will accept more defeats if they don't recognize that they should stop for a while to relieve the tension. By taking a break, they are giving themselves space to see what they've got and if it doesn't turn out well for them, they should stop and leave the casino before it's too late.

We can look for other ways to be happy and not have to do gambling which can cost a lot of money. And we must realize that gambling is only temporary entertainment and you don't need to spend much money.

what I have experienced and destroyed me is in this third pattern. because in the past, every time I deposited funds into the gambling platform, I always won large amounts of gambling. without me realizing that the victory was the beginning of the downfall when I started to be greedy to win more and when I continued to bet I lost the first time and I became emotional chasing defeat by increasing the amount of my bet and in the end I lost more and my funds finished. after that I became even more stupid when I chased defeat, always made a deposit and always lost.
from what happened in my past, this will be the best lesson for me if gambling is just entertainment, you don't need to hope for victory and you don't need to be greedy if you don't want to break. and if you get a big win or max win it's just a bonus and immediately leave the gamble and withdraw the winnings.

This is very common, cutting your session short when you are losing is very easy, as you can simply say that it was not your day and do something else during the time you had planned to gamble.

However when you begin your session with big wins you want to keep gambling as it is easy to think this is your lucky day in which you could obtain big profits, but suddenly your luck changes and your profits begin to go down, now even then you are still in a good position as you are still earning money, but in your mind you can only think on the money you have lost already and then you become even more reckless in your attempts to try to recover that money, only to lose your money at an even faster speed.

the thing is many people lack the emotional control to do it
I agree that it's a simple thing and solves the problem, but not so straightforward to do it if the person is adicted

it'll vary a lot from person to person

This actually pretty useful, thank you for this. This basically helps a player knowing when to maximize his bets and when to avoid betting. Will gona have to try it out and check if ot works

In the past years, i have seen a lot of the Distortion Pattern III... people who get a huge win at the start of the run and stay there until they lose all, and I have seen this with big amounts too, some years ago I saw how a high roller win 40BTC in his first bet, and he stay there playing until he lose 60BTC, even if the bitcoin price was low, the amount of btc was big.

A very common gambler behavior on which we would eventually stop on playing gambling if we dont have any more money in our accounts or in our pocket for us to do so.
When you do win big then it cant really be avoided not to think that you should play more to bag on more winnings which is really a very common scenario or situation on which
us human beings would be minding.

If you arent really that good on handling up your greed then you would definitely be ending up with this scenario which you would be always going home empty handed.

You are right and that is what makes the third pattern presented by the OP so dangerous, under normal circumstances if the session does not begin with good results for you then you will immediately switch gears and think about stopping your gambling session.

But when you begin your session with several wins and then your luck runs out those thoughts do not cross your mind, and instead you want to keep gambling and recover what you have lost, which can make your losses many times bigger than if you began your session by losing some money.

I think it happens to many people when they first start gambling.
But after playing for some time, they started to lose and the number of losses was getting bigger and frustrated them.
They try to use bigger funds but the result is always the same, namely defeat, making them desperate because they cannot win like before.
And in the end, they will only regret it because they have lost a lot of money gambling.

The issue is how understands it these stages that you mentioned and then how to "walk!" by them like gamblers for each one of us with an individual point of view, for maybe have a comparison with the individual experience, that not necessarily by making the comparison one must have the coincidence of emotions or conclusions to which you arrive.

This is because there's no guarantee you will get huge multipliers or jackpot even though you're playing it a whole day. Anyone should have a good self control in order to prevent this kind happen. Also there's many casinos already has self exclusion feature which will help an addict to stop gamble.

I also think it's better to play sports rather than slots because you can't predict the result in slots.

The pattern depends on the gambling game.
I usually play poker, so most of the time I start winning slowly, but after a while, I get bored and lose everything. I lose everything because I get tired of waiting for a good hand, so I start taking higher risks.
With games like crash or dice, the pattern would be way different. I would be winning and losing small amounts and most of the time I just don't win big, because I hate making bigger best on such games. I have the hidden feeling that the crash/dice game might be rigged, when the players makes a bigger bet. ;D

please come back later and share your findings with us
would love to hear

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this is true too
in some games it won't even work or it'll show a delay
like with slots it could work differently

Probably in any other card games as well like bacarrat or even black jack. If you lose concentration and started to bet without thinking of the odds, then we take higher risk and so we might lose very quick.

Sometimes when this happen to me, I again withdraw some money and play but this time with different mentality, and sometimes it work as I was able to recover my initial lost.


Luck base game, so it's very volatile as well with the pattern very different for each one of us. Not sure the game is rigged though, but this is our feeling when we lost specially with huge amount as if it was set up by the casino like that.

yes, it is true. back when I was still a crazy gambling addict, it was very difficult to control my emotions while betting. especially if you lose several times, of course the emotions will be big and you always spend money to chase those losses.
but after the destruction in the past will make a valuable lesson for me to stop being a crazy gambling addict and always try to control emotions.

Hopefully, the self-exclusion feature really helps an addict to stop gambling but I'm still unsure about that feature because it's very difficult for a gambling addict to realize he is a gambling addict.
Unless he has really rough days and it gets to a point where he really needs to quit gambling, only then will he come to terms with what he has done and what he did wrong.
And before that happens, we really have to have good self-control when playing gambling so that nothing bad will happen to us.
We must be able to learn from the experiences of others who have experienced many defeats.

That's why I doubt this self-exclusion feature could work for a gambling addict because they wouldn't be using it for their own good.
Instead of using it, if a casino uses this feature automatically on gamblers who use a lot of money to gamble almost every day, those gamblers will just look for other casinos that can allow them to use a lot of money still.
But casinos haven't done it automatically and still give gamblers the option to activate it.
Casinos are also thinking about what if many gamblers activate this feature because it will impact the profits they can get and will reduce their profits.

it's a bit tricky to think casinos would act against their own incentives
in reality they usually want users to get addicted and gamble more
even if a casino advertise "responsible gambling" (is it even possible?) I'd probably doubt it is for real and not just a PR practice.

They would really be just making themselves look that they are really that in concern with gamblers but deep inside they do really want for all to be addicted. hehe.
As this kind of business then the more addicted person the more better since it could really generate up that kind of income on where they are really that hoping for.
Distortion or whatsoever wont really be that effective as long a particular person doesnt have any plans on stopping or having a good control of his gambling
activities or engagement.

The self-exclusion feature some casinos offer can be useful but only under very specific circumstances, one of those cases would be when a person which is not addicted to gambling lost a lot of money during a session, then they can implement the self-exclusion feature and keep themselves out from their accounts long enough to think about what they did.

But for those which have a problem controlling their gambling such a feature is useless, because as you mention then they can just open another account in a different casino and gamble there anyway.

Controlling hour emotions is what we all have learnt from gambling without which we would probably lose all our money into gambling.
Even I have tasted the losing it all part and I must say it was because of the same that I have learnt to control my emotions and hence control my spendings.
I tend to play with small amount these days which has helped me in cutting losses while still enjoying gambling.

after a big enough loss, of course, it will make you more careful in placing your money. you already have valuable experience with loss.
I rarely go to the casino. more often than not I make sports bets. especially on the weekends when some of the European leagues start playing. and that too with a small nominal. not a big bet. just for fun only.

maybe in the casino, those who play are very focused on their game. sometimes they forget to control their emotions. it can ensnare players when they continue to lose and enjoy the game.

Au contraire, addicted gamblers are usually more trouble to them than money, especially for live casinos where they could get bombarded by hate and scandal from addict gamblers, especially in countries where loan sharks are a thing. If anything, there are a couple of houses, especially ones not fully-accredited by their national governments, who promote this type of problem, but most of them would really go to such lengths as kicking gamblers out of the casino if they are observed and confirmed to be addicted to gambling already. Then again, we wouldn't really see this on the daily so it's not going to make it out the news. True. but this only applies to online casinos. Live casinos do not have this problem AFAIK. The futility of Self-exclusion features against addicted gamblers aren't a good enough reason to not imply them to casinos. The benefits they provide still outweighs the amount of addicted gamblers by a longshot.

exactly
don't trust their words, trust their actions

if a casino was really interested in avoiding gambling addiction they'd simply block or timeout the user after a certain number of games or certain time
it's not hard
but doing so is not profitable so it's definitely a no no.

Well, there are many players who have their own way of playing and have many techniques that are difficult to tell them to change, because it is difficult to make them change their tricks and things that they have learned as they have had their own experiences, however some may have that There are patterns to play and win, but it is very difficult, many people play in different ways. In my case, when I see the way some players play and I see that I can optimize my way of playing, I get results that are more efficient than mine. Well, I simply adopt them for myself and begin to apply them, but I don't think that depends on each player.

The most important thing in gambling is not to chase after losses. We who are gamblers often try to recover after a loss and that is too quickly which in turn leads to big losses. And I doubt if there is a gambler who has not been exposed to such a situation. When a gambler loses 75 percent of their funds and can patiently gamble with only 25 percent, some times they will be able to regenerate the funds once again. But those who get frustrated losing 75% will usually have zero balance. So a gambler should have good knowledge about this concern.

Lol, you are absolutely correct mate, casinos sure want their users to gamble more, this is their business and they are in it for maximum profit, personally, i see that "Gamble Responsibly" thing as a PR strategy, or maybe gambling authorities requires every casino to have that sign as a disclaimer on the casino websites and promotion materials.

Its just like the government asked producers of cigarette to boldly install "Smokers are liable to die young" in the front and back of every cigarette packets , the producers did as ordered but also made the cigarette to become much more sweeter than they used to be, to make the smokers even more addicted to it.

Patience has nothing to do with your luck, because emotional doesn't change anything, it's depends on how much your bankroll and how much you put to gamble. House edge is calculated from a bunch of betting, so if you're only gamble with small money, you wouldn't lose all of your money. While if you bet all of your money or 1/2, or few times only, it's high likely you will earn good amount money or lose it all. In the end you will lose since the house edge is on casino's side.

good point
and shows us that the government has a role to play too and can help make people's lives better in some situations

usually the situations are filled with nuance and most people can only see black or white.