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December 23, 2022, 01:22:50 PM
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I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.
Gambling pattern 4 can turn a gambler into a gambler, which is what most gamblers have experienced. And remember that luck will not always come to you, so you don't need to chase more wins or try to recover losses you have experienced. But if you are trying to use more money to chase more wins or recover losses, it can turn you into a gambler addicted to gambling. The desire to repeat winning will keep coming without you being able to hold it in and that's when you will experience bigger losses.

this has a big relation with dopamine systems too
people get addicted to the rewards and usually forget the risk they have on a determined situation
many times rationality is more important than emotion
The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.

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December 23, 2022, 01:57:51 PM
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And no matter what you do that losing streak will always appear as that is how probabilities work, after all the more you double your bet and the more you use the martingale strategy the more likely it becomes that you will suffer a catastrophic loss.
In gambling, martingale strategy is useful, but if the luck is not attained or achieved, the loss would be far worse and more significant than playing without it. I can not encourage anyone to use martingale strategy while gambling. But it can be useful in some useful games in casino, but I find it not useful in many games, especially those with odds lower than 1.3 or any odd that if you lose four or five times, more than 3x or more is not guaranteed.

The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.
This is absolutely true, the best for addicts is to just tell his people, let them know about his addiction and how to cure himself of the addiction would become nearer to him. But some people are addicted and they still think luck could come, but failing again and again in more money losses.

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December 23, 2022, 03:41:54 PM
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The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.

This is true. Emotions play a big role in the chances of winning or losing the game. If you don't have enough mental headspaace to grasp the things happening and is currently experiencing negative vibes, you should definitely stop playing. This is to avoid the higher possibility of you losing in the game. The moment you knew you are not mentally capable of playing because you are already low-spirited, you should slow down and take a break.

Chasing winnings won't do you any good. Instead of winning, you might end up losing in repeating manner without you even noticing it because you keep on playing just to win. Strategies and risk analysis are essential in winning the game. If you can't do it at your present state, then do not play and bet. Otherwise you'll just lose your funds.
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December 23, 2022, 06:33:19 PM
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I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.
Gambling pattern 4 can turn a gambler into a gambler, which is what most gamblers have experienced. And remember that luck will not always come to you, so you don't need to chase more wins or try to recover losses you have experienced. But if you are trying to use more money to chase more wins or recover losses, it can turn you into a gambler addicted to gambling. The desire to repeat winning will keep coming without you being able to hold it in and that's when you will experience bigger losses.

this has a big relation with dopamine systems too
people get addicted to the rewards and usually forget the risk they have on a determined situation
many times rationality is more important than emotion
A gambler at first bets and plays just to try and have fun, but by being able to win bets, greed will appear to be able to win all bets and gambling games, so it will be more difficult to be able to control emotions when playing.
From this, at first just trying it, but a feeling of greed for victory and being able to make money instantly by gambling arises, someone will become a gambling enthusiast.
They don't realize and think about the risks that can be obtained when they become a gambling enthusiast who has high emotions in betting.
They are even willing to do anything to be able to place bets, even though the money they have has run out, they are still trying to get money by borrowing only to be used as their betting capital.

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December 23, 2022, 11:06:58 PM
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Nice post, on the surface, but I can't see the usefulness...

For starters, you haven't even defined gambling distortion, though, so I'm really unclear on what's being demonstrated or proven here. Distortion suggests what we perceive is different to what actually happens. And what are stages 2 and 3?

I do keep pretty decent records for one of my "strategies" since it involves low frequency bets, high rewards. My gambling patterns, if timebound by season, aren't anything like that -- if using this strategy, it's many stages of continuous losing streaks and epic wins scattered around.

Casino gambling's probably also the same, far fewer wins than losses, because of my style and house edge preference.

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December 24, 2022, 12:26:16 PM
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The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.
I think it's fine to get stuck in the positive side but it's almost impossible to remain there because in gambling, we are mostly prone to losses so our mood can also shift to being negative. It might stay there after some time so the goal is like you said, stop playing for a while and let this bad luck subside first.

There are still ways to be happy outside gambling or even without money involved, if money is the main thing that keeps you coming back in the gambling place. It's only hard to fight the urge once a person is addicted already but they can ask for a help or the people around them can also do actions. If they are truly concerned.

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December 25, 2022, 05:47:36 AM
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The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.
This is absolutely true, the best for addicts is to just tell his people, let them know about his addiction and how to cure himself of the addiction would become nearer to him. But some people are addicted and they still think luck could come, but failing again and again in more money losses.
But most gamblers will not say they have a gambling addiction and only say everything is fine. And if they are honest, it will let those around them know about their problems and help them solve them.


The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.

This is true. Emotions play a big role in the chances of winning or losing the game. If you don't have enough mental headspaace to grasp the things happening and is currently experiencing negative vibes, you should definitely stop playing. This is to avoid the higher possibility of you losing in the game. The moment you knew you are not mentally capable of playing because you are already low-spirited, you should slow down and take a break.

Chasing winnings won't do you any good. Instead of winning, you might end up losing in repeating manner without you even noticing it because you keep on playing just to win. Strategies and risk analysis are essential in winning the game. If you can't do it at your present state, then do not play and bet. Otherwise you'll just lose your funds.
That's why we must be able to regulate emotions when playing gambling because temptation during play will cause him to make the wrong decision instead of stopping for a while after experiencing tension in playing gambling. Slowing down and taking a break is a good way to go, especially if we have been on a losing streak because later, we can be triggered to recover from the losses we have experienced and if that happens, we will use more money.

Don't be too passionate about chasing victory, especially when we have won several wins, because we can be trapped by defeat after winning. We should stop and regulate our emotions so we can reduce the tension.

The gambler's emotions can go up and down along with the wins and losses he experiences so if he can't control himself, he can get stuck in a situation he doesn't want. His losses would also be even greater than before, especially when he deposited more money into his account just to continue playing. But that will not prevent the addicted person from depositing money. They will continue to play if they have money in their account or wallet.
I think it's fine to get stuck in the positive side but it's almost impossible to remain there because in gambling, we are mostly prone to losses so our mood can also shift to being negative. It might stay there after some time so the goal is like you said, stop playing for a while and let this bad luck subside first.

There are still ways to be happy outside gambling or even without money involved, if money is the main thing that keeps you coming back in the gambling place. It's only hard to fight the urge once a person is addicted already but they can ask for a help or the people around them can also do actions. If they are truly concerned.
But the problem is that most of them get stuck on the negative side and will accept more defeats if they don't recognize that they should stop for a while to relieve the tension. By taking a break, they are giving themselves space to see what they've got and if it doesn't turn out well for them, they should stop and leave the casino before it's too late.

We can look for other ways to be happy and not have to do gambling which can cost a lot of money. And we must realize that gambling is only temporary entertainment and you don't need to spend much money.

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December 25, 2022, 06:05:43 AM
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3. Gambling Distortion Pattern III

Next is a picture of the third gambling pattern of course when you first make a deposit you get a total win, but here the problem is that you lose control and are too confident that the victory you just got is just the beginning and feel confident that there will still be many wins ahead. Conditions like this push you into a trap that motivates you mentally to continue to have big ambitions. As a result, the wins are getting smaller, little by little loss but still accompanied by uncontrollable ambition, finally, all the balances owned are lost.


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what I have experienced and destroyed me is in this third pattern. because in the past, every time I deposited funds into the gambling platform, I always won large amounts of gambling. without me realizing that the victory was the beginning of the downfall when I started to be greedy to win more and when I continued to bet I lost the first time and I became emotional chasing defeat by increasing the amount of my bet and in the end I lost more and my funds finished. after that I became even more stupid when I chased defeat, always made a deposit and always lost.
from what happened in my past, this will be the best lesson for me if gambling is just entertainment, you don't need to hope for victory and you don't need to be greedy if you don't want to break. and if you get a big win or max win it's just a bonus and immediately leave the gamble and withdraw the winnings.

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what I have experienced and destroyed me is in this third pattern. because in the past, every time I deposited funds into the gambling platform, I always won large amounts of gambling. without me realizing that the victory was the beginning of the downfall when I started to be greedy to win more and when I continued to bet I lost the first time and I became emotional chasing defeat by increasing the amount of my bet and in the end I lost more and my funds finished. after that I became even more stupid when I chased defeat, always made a deposit and always lost.
from what happened in my past, this will be the best lesson for me if gambling is just entertainment, you don't need to hope for victory and you don't need to be greedy if you don't want to break. and if you get a big win or max win it's just a bonus and immediately leave the gamble and withdraw the winnings.
This is very common, cutting your session short when you are losing is very easy, as you can simply say that it was not your day and do something else during the time you had planned to gamble.

However when you begin your session with big wins you want to keep gambling as it is easy to think this is your lucky day in which you could obtain big profits, but suddenly your luck changes and your profits begin to go down, now even then you are still in a good position as you are still earning money, but in your mind you can only think on the money you have lost already and then you become even more reckless in your attempts to try to recover that money, only to lose your money at an even faster speed.

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what I have experienced and destroyed me is in this third pattern. because in the past, every time I deposited funds into the gambling platform, I always won large amounts of gambling. without me realizing that the victory was the beginning of the downfall when I started to be greedy to win more and when I continued to bet I lost the first time and I became emotional chasing defeat by increasing the amount of my bet and in the end I lost more and my funds finished. after that I became even more stupid when I chased defeat, always made a deposit and always lost.
from what happened in my past, this will be the best lesson for me if gambling is just entertainment, you don't need to hope for victory and you don't need to be greedy if you don't want to break. and if you get a big win or max win it's just a bonus and immediately leave the gamble and withdraw the winnings.
This is very common, cutting your session short when you are losing is very easy, as you can simply say that it was not your day and do something else during the time you had planned to gamble.

However when you begin your session with big wins you want to keep gambling as it is easy to think this is your lucky day in which you could obtain big profits, but suddenly your luck changes and your profits begin to go down, now even then you are still in a good position as you are still earning money, but in your mind you can only think on the money you have lost already and then you become even more reckless in your attempts to try to recover that money, only to lose your money at an even faster speed.

the thing is many people lack the emotional control to do it
I agree that it's a simple thing and solves the problem, but not so straightforward to do it if the person is adicted

it'll vary a lot from person to person

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This actually pretty useful, thank you for this. This basically helps a player knowing when to maximize his bets and when to avoid betting. Will gona have to try it out and check if ot works
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In the past years, i have seen a lot of the Distortion Pattern III... people who get a huge win at the start of the run and stay there until they lose all, and I have seen this with big amounts too, some years ago I saw how a high roller win 40BTC in his first bet, and he stay there playing until he lose 60BTC, even if the bitcoin price was low, the amount of btc was big.

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January 04, 2023, 09:52:20 PM
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In the past years, i have seen a lot of the Distortion Pattern III... people who get a huge win at the start of the run and stay there until they lose all, and I have seen this with big amounts too, some years ago I saw how a high roller win 40BTC in his first bet, and he stay there playing until he lose 60BTC, even if the bitcoin price was low, the amount of btc was big.
A very common gambler behavior on which we would eventually stop on playing gambling if we dont have any more money in our accounts or in our pocket for us to do so.
When you do win big then it cant really be avoided not to think that you should play more to bag on more winnings which is really a very common scenario or situation on which
us human beings would be minding.

If you arent really that good on handling up your greed then you would definitely be ending up with this scenario which you would be always going home empty handed.

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This is very common, cutting your session short when you are losing is very easy, as you can simply say that it was not your day and do something else during the time you had planned to gamble.

However when you begin your session with big wins you want to keep gambling as it is easy to think this is your lucky day in which you could obtain big profits, but suddenly your luck changes and your profits begin to go down, now even then you are still in a good position as you are still earning money, but in your mind you can only think on the money you have lost already and then you become even more reckless in your attempts to try to recover that money, only to lose your money at an even faster speed.

the thing is many people lack the emotional control to do it
I agree that it's a simple thing and solves the problem, but not so straightforward to do it if the person is adicted

it'll vary a lot from person to person
You are right and that is what makes the third pattern presented by the OP so dangerous, under normal circumstances if the session does not begin with good results for you then you will immediately switch gears and think about stopping your gambling session.

But when you begin your session with several wins and then your luck runs out those thoughts do not cross your mind, and instead you want to keep gambling and recover what you have lost, which can make your losses many times bigger than if you began your session by losing some money.

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In the past years, i have seen a lot of the Distortion Pattern III... people who get a huge win at the start of the run and stay there until they lose all, and I have seen this with big amounts too, some years ago I saw how a high roller win 40BTC in his first bet, and he stay there playing until he lose 60BTC, even if the bitcoin price was low, the amount of btc was big.
I think it happens to many people when they first start gambling.
But after playing for some time, they started to lose and the number of losses was getting bigger and frustrated them.
They try to use bigger funds but the result is always the same, namely defeat, making them desperate because they cannot win like before.
And in the end, they will only regret it because they have lost a lot of money gambling.

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The issue is how understands it these stages that you mentioned and then how to "walk!" by them like gamblers for each one of us with an individual point of view, for maybe have a comparison with the individual experience, that not necessarily by making the comparison one must have the coincidence of emotions or conclusions to which you arrive.

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January 05, 2023, 06:40:54 AM
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I think it happens to many people when they first start gambling.
But after playing for some time, they started to lose and the number of losses was getting bigger and frustrated them.
They try to use bigger funds but the result is always the same, namely defeat, making them desperate because they cannot win like before.
And in the end, they will only regret it because they have lost a lot of money gambling.
This is because there's no guarantee you will get huge multipliers or jackpot even though you're playing it a whole day. Anyone should have a good self control in order to prevent this kind happen. Also there's many casinos already has self exclusion feature which will help an addict to stop gamble.

I also think it's better to play sports rather than slots because you can't predict the result in slots.

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The pattern depends on the gambling game.
I usually play poker, so most of the time I start winning slowly, but after a while, I get bored and lose everything. I lose everything because I get tired of waiting for a good hand, so I start taking higher risks.
With games like crash or dice, the pattern would be way different. I would be winning and losing small amounts and most of the time I just don't win big, because I hate making bigger best on such games. I have the hidden feeling that the crash/dice game might be rigged, when the players makes a bigger bet. Grin

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January 05, 2023, 12:19:41 PM
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This actually pretty useful, thank you for this. This basically helps a player knowing when to maximize his bets and when to avoid betting. Will gona have to try it out and check if ot works

please come back later and share your findings with us
would love to hear



The pattern depends on the gambling game.
I usually play poker, so most of the time I start winning slowly, but after a while, I get bored and lose everything. I lose everything because I get tired of waiting for a good hand, so I start taking higher risks.
With games like crash or dice, the pattern would be way different. I would be winning and losing small amounts and most of the time I just don't win big, because I hate making bigger best on such games. I have the hidden feeling that the crash/dice game might be rigged, when the players makes a bigger bet. Grin

this is true too
in some games it won't even work or it'll show a delay
like with slots it could work differently

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January 05, 2023, 12:29:57 PM
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The pattern depends on the gambling game.
I usually play poker, so most of the time I start winning slowly, but after a while, I get bored and lose everything. I lose everything because I get tired of waiting for a good hand, so I start taking higher risks.

Probably in any other card games as well like bacarrat or even black jack. If you lose concentration and started to bet without thinking of the odds, then we take higher risk and so we might lose very quick.

Sometimes when this happen to me, I again withdraw some money and play but this time with different mentality, and sometimes it work as I was able to recover my initial lost.

With games like crash or dice, the pattern would be way different. I would be winning and losing small amounts and most of the time I just don't win big, because I hate making bigger best on such games. I have the hidden feeling that the crash/dice game might be rigged, when the players makes a bigger bet. Grin

Luck base game, so it's very volatile as well with the pattern very different for each one of us. Not sure the game is rigged though, but this is our feeling when we lost specially with huge amount as if it was set up by the casino like that.

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