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December 02, 2022, 02:27:59 PM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

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December 02, 2022, 02:44:44 PM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

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December 05, 2022, 08:33:29 PM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster

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December 05, 2022, 09:41:06 PM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster
You wouldnt really be ending up on a disaster if you are really having that limitation and being aware in towards your actions.Gambling is for entertainment but it do turns out that majority is really having that wrong

impression and beliefs that they do mold on and this is the reason on why things becomes being more desperate and on the time that they've been fucked up by gambling then this is where realization begins.

Dont make yourself that desperate on getting wins because in gambling there's always a slim chance for you to make yourself get out with profits.
Most of the time you would really be that empty handed which you should make yourself that prepared.

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People who is losing gambling and people who is winning gambling it is dependable on them or how they predict their own game so I believe that nobody is one of the most things that before you mean it you must understand the concept so they are form nobody should blame or give any draught that the dishes are gambling goes for someone to me I believe that it is good to give your own reasons it was meaning of gambling and does not gambling

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December 06, 2022, 02:01:49 AM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster
You wouldnt really be ending up on a disaster if you are really having that limitation and being aware in towards your actions.Gambling is for entertainment but it do turns out that majority is really having that wrong

impression and beliefs that they do mold on and this is the reason on why things becomes being more desperate and on the time that they've been fucked up by gambling then this is where realization begins.

Dont make yourself that desperate on getting wins because in gambling there's always a slim chance for you to make yourself get out with profits.
Most of the time you would really be that empty handed which you should make yourself that prepared.

Indeed. All it takes is discipline. However, the sad reality is that, not everyone possess it. Which is the reason why a lot of gamblers suffer from addiction.

Some people have a hard time setting up boundaries and limitations. And they even find it more difficult to actually obey and follow it once they have made it because they don't have the discipline to do so. They tend to crave for more and instead of suppressing it, most of the time they give in. There's really nothing wrong in gambling and betting as long as you are doing it moderately and responsibly. It just turns out bad the moment you prioritize it over anything else and put it in the pedestal of your life.

Chasing winnings should be a no-no too if you want to keep your sanity because being desperate on winning and being greedy on taking the prize will just cost you so much. Remember, gambling shouldn't be your thing to rely on to earn money. It could be an additional stream of income for you, but don't let it be your main because it has so many risks and it isn't really guaranteed you'll win everytime. Always prepare for the worst, so never ever bet all of what you got just for the sake of having "fun".
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Indeed. All it takes is discipline. However, the sad reality is that, not everyone possess it. Which is the reason why a lot of gamblers suffer from addiction.

Some people have a hard time setting up boundaries and limitations. And they even find it more difficult to actually obey and follow it once they have made it because they don't have the discipline to do so. They tend to crave for more and instead of suppressing it, most of the time they give in. There's really nothing wrong in gambling and betting as long as you are doing it moderately and responsibly. It just turns out bad the moment you prioritize it over anything else and put it in the pedestal of your life.

Chasing winnings should be a no-no too if you want to keep your sanity because being desperate on winning and being greedy on taking the prize will just cost you so much. Remember, gambling shouldn't be your thing to rely on to earn money. It could be an additional stream of income for you, but don't let it be your main because it has so many risks and it isn't really guaranteed you'll win everytime. Always prepare for the worst, so never ever bet all of what you got just for the sake of having "fun".
Some do make out recommendation and suggestion but eventually failed up to be applied into themselves which is really that a shame.Each person does have their own level of discipline and control on various things.

Just like myself where i do already picture out on what are the probabilities for me to be get addicted with gambling which i didnt really let myself get involved too much or spend up much money.

Tendency and chances would really be there and this is where you should really be careful with it.If you dont like to be get addicted then you shouldnt really make
yourself engage on it too much.

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December 07, 2022, 02:52:56 PM
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good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster
You wouldnt really be ending up on a disaster if you are really having that limitation and being aware in towards your actions.Gambling is for entertainment but it do turns out that majority is really having that wrong

impression and beliefs that they do mold on and this is the reason on why things becomes being more desperate and on the time that they've been fucked up by gambling then this is where realization begins.

Dont make yourself that desperate on getting wins because in gambling there's always a slim chance for you to make yourself get out with profits.
Most of the time you would really be that empty handed which you should make yourself that prepared.

Indeed. All it takes is discipline. However, the sad reality is that, not everyone possess it. Which is the reason why a lot of gamblers suffer from addiction.

Some people have a hard time setting up boundaries and limitations. And they even find it more difficult to actually obey and follow it once they have made it because they don't have the discipline to do so. They tend to crave for more and instead of suppressing it, most of the time they give in. There's really nothing wrong in gambling and betting as long as you are doing it moderately and responsibly. It just turns out bad the moment you prioritize it over anything else and put it in the pedestal of your life.

Chasing winnings should be a no-no too if you want to keep your sanity because being desperate on winning and being greedy on taking the prize will just cost you so much. Remember, gambling shouldn't be your thing to rely on to earn money. It could be an additional stream of income for you, but don't let it be your main because it has so many risks and it isn't really guaranteed you'll win everytime. Always prepare for the worst, so never ever bet all of what you got just for the sake of having "fun".

I suppose it has a lot to do with genes, dopamine and emotional control

some people are just better with dealing with stressful situations and can control better after facing losses
others engage in revenge betting to try to "make it all back in one trade"
so forth and so on

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Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work, it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds. It’s essential to get back all losses. So you need to improve the game again and again for the longer period as compared to the essential one for the players. Loss is not a permanent one for the player involved in the game of gambling all the time.



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December 10, 2022, 02:06:09 PM
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Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work,it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds.

This is such a dangerous mindset.

If you will condition your mind to chase winnings after losses, you are most likely to lose than to win. This is because your mental headspace and capacity after a loss is not enough to handle any more stress and pressure that could lead to losing.

Even if you have enough fund, it isn't really advisable to bet based on your emotions and loss as your driven force. It's one of the great recipe for disaster IMO.
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December 10, 2022, 08:34:19 PM
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Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work,it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds.

This is such a dangerous mindset.

If you will condition your mind to chase winnings after losses, you are most likely to lose than to win. This is because your mental headspace and capacity after a loss is not enough to handle any more stress and pressure that could lead to losing.

Even if you have enough fund, it isn't really advisable to bet based on your emotions and loss as your driven force. It's one of the great recipe for disaster IMO.

totally agree
what do you think is the best strategy if someone want to play?

maybe setting a fixed amount of money to bet and stopping if they lose it all or after earning a set %?
or maybe setting a time alarm to stop after X hours.

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December 10, 2022, 08:56:41 PM
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Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work,it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds.

This is such a dangerous mindset.

If you will condition your mind to chase winnings after losses, you are most likely to lose than to win. This is because your mental headspace and capacity after a loss is not enough to handle any more stress and pressure that could lead to losing.

Even if you have enough fund, it isn't really advisable to bet based on your emotions and loss as your driven force. It's one of the great recipe for disaster IMO.

totally agree
what do you think is the best strategy if someone want to play?

maybe setting a fixed amount of money to bet and stopping if they lose it all or after earning a set %?
or maybe setting a time alarm to stop after X hours.
Most of the time which people do eventually stop when they do busted up all of their balance or have lost it all and have nothing to bet.This is the usual case and something
very common scenario or condition which a certain person would be having.When doing gambling then of course you should really be aiming for you to make out
some entertainment and winning is really just a bonus and as a person who do really mind about his finances then he should really be having
that control and could stop mid way if he wanted to.

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December 13, 2022, 09:11:55 PM
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Slot game will have a minimum bet of 3 dollars. In slot game we had a opportunity to get back the loss money. If we keep continue the work,it essential one to recover the loss. This is possible only by using the slot games. You should have a backup money to play the game continuously after the loss. You should have a mindset to play the next game after the loss of funds.

This is such a dangerous mindset.

If you will condition your mind to chase winnings after losses, you are most likely to lose than to win. This is because your mental headspace and capacity after a loss is not enough to handle any more stress and pressure that could lead to losing.

Even if you have enough fund, it isn't really advisable to bet based on your emotions and loss as your driven force. It's one of the great recipe for disaster IMO.

totally agree
what do you think is the best strategy if someone want to play?

maybe setting a fixed amount of money to bet and stopping if they lose it all or after earning a set %?
or maybe setting a time alarm to stop after X hours.
Most of the time which people do eventually stop when they do busted up all of their balance or have lost it all and have nothing to bet.This is the usual case and something
very common scenario or condition which a certain person would be having.When doing gambling then of course you should really be aiming for you to make out
some entertainment and winning is really just a bonus and as a person who do really mind about his finances then he should really be having
that control and could stop mid way if he wanted to.

yes, most popular strategies are probably on the realms of:
- limiting bank roll
- limiting total time available for gambling
- stopping after winning
- having a guardian angel to help you not to get to emotional

rational mind helps, but most of the times we aren't rational after all.

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December 20, 2022, 04:27:40 AM
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In fact this is something that novices can experience more frequently, I include myself there only when I was a novice, I had experiences as it appears on the chart, however now we as players who have a little more experience and know myself can say that things can happen like this but not with that behavior, sometimes we can stop the losses only with decisions that can make the difference between one play and another, perhaps because we already see the game as one more way to have fun and not to make money , since when we don't see it to make money, unwanted emotions enter, fear, stress, pressure and that makes us lose faster


isn't it interesting how expactations plays a role on relaxation during the experience?
if you have more expectations (wanting a particular outcome) it can make you more tense/less relaxed or more fearful, therefore more prone to mess up due to these emotional or thought conflicts

You are right.One time I was expecting to win the same amount of money as to buy a Mercedes CLS (what a f*cking idiot I was to think that) and once I started I was really relaxed calm,even happy as I was expecting to hit the maximum payline of my beloved slot machine at a certain bet most likely at 3 dollars for a bet.It started well it gave me the bonus round a couple of times and I increased the balance nicely only to lose it by continue playing as I thought the slot machine will keep giving me money (naive expectation) while in fact it took it all away and I become mad,tense and even nervous when talking to people.I do not do this anymore thank God.

good point
in the end it's better to approach the world without expectations if possible
of course it's not the easiest thing, but it's possible.

in gambling it's hard to predict the outcome, betting in the hope of winning a lot and to keep betting with this belief is a recipe for disaster

That's right, and that lends itself to many interpretations, because I know people who say that you shouldn't be negative and it's not that it's negative, but rather that you have to evaluate the possible scenarios where that is going to be the case, it's more feasible than when one enters a casino that one can lose than win, that is something that is obvious, but there are many people who enter with the hope and make it in their head that they are going to multiply their money, and maybe if they enter like this and do so It is something that went well for them, but it is not a guarantee that it can happen again, so it is better to be somewhat more realistic, keep in mind that one must have the money willing to lose and not delude oneself with false hopes/gains.


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December 20, 2022, 07:29:48 AM
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I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.
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December 20, 2022, 05:48:03 PM
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Conclusion: what I say can be wrong and can also be right, you can correct what I explain if there is an error. Please share what kind of gambling experiences and patterns you often experience while at the casino.


I don't have the exact distortion pattern especially describing how my gambling distortion pattern is. after all, it is not explained here that this pattern is only for casino games or all kinds of gambling including sportbooks. if you refer to the casino gambling pattern, the results will be messier like the pictures you put on your thread. because after all, it will be very difficult to recover losses from each casino gambling session.

But if for sportbook, I can do it. at least I have knowledge that I can rely on to bet on this type of sports betting. even if I put a parlay slip with 3 bets. my probability is very high to win the bet slip. and if input on the distortion graph, the first image could be the one that represents the suitable option for me. but again, this refers to the distortion of sports betting.

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December 21, 2022, 03:14:09 AM
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Please share what kind of gambling experiences and patterns you often experience while at the casino.


I used to use martingale, mostly it'd work fine but then there would be this losing streaks where they don't appear to stop and you lose it all.

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December 21, 2022, 03:33:49 AM
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I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.
Gambling pattern 4 can turn a gambler into a gambler, which is what most gamblers have experienced. And remember that luck will not always come to you, so you don't need to chase more wins or try to recover losses you have experienced. But if you are trying to use more money to chase more wins or recover losses, it can turn you into a gambler addicted to gambling. The desire to repeat winning will keep coming without you being able to hold it in and that's when you will experience bigger losses.

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December 22, 2022, 11:56:16 PM
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I feel like gambling pattern 4 is what turns gamblers into addicts. When you gamble and complete one pattern mostly its gonna be called luck (by yourself of course). Give in enough time so you will one day do epic comeback for sure. It may take days or it may take years! But it will happen. And your brain will quickly consider it a epic comeback that shows your skill. Your chemistry will force you to play more and more. And you become typical gambler.
Gambling pattern 4 can turn a gambler into a gambler, which is what most gamblers have experienced. And remember that luck will not always come to you, so you don't need to chase more wins or try to recover losses you have experienced. But if you are trying to use more money to chase more wins or recover losses, it can turn you into a gambler addicted to gambling. The desire to repeat winning will keep coming without you being able to hold it in and that's when you will experience bigger losses.

this has a big relation with dopamine systems too
people get addicted to the rewards and usually forget the risk they have on a determined situation
many times rationality is more important than emotion

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December 23, 2022, 03:23:52 AM
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Please share what kind of gambling experiences and patterns you often experience while at the casino.


I used to use martingale, mostly it'd work fine but then there would be this losing streaks where they don't appear to stop and you lose it all.
And no matter what you do that losing streak will always appear as that is how probabilities work, after all the more you double your bet and the more you use the martingale strategy the more likely it becomes that you will suffer a catastrophic loss.

So while martingale may give the impression to be an infallible strategy when it finally fails it does so in such a way that you will lose the majority or all your capital, and since it is inevitable that this will happen you might as well give up on using this strategy.

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