Terence Crawford vs David Avanesyan December 10

[bbc.reporter]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

[Hypnosis00]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

I guess Spence fighting Thurman would be a good fight to witness, we will forget our disappointment in the Crawford vs Spence fight that didn't happen. This one should is easy for Crawford, so let's see who will Spence fight, hopefully one of the names you've mentioned.

[Saisher]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

If Crawford is doing it, cherry-picking a fighter why not Spence, of course, he too wants to protect his record and the real money maker is Crawford's fight, a fight with any of them, Ortiz or Ennis will make money but not as big money like a Crawford fight he too, is thinking that they can complete a deal next year, so we'll see if Spence will do a Crawford.

[Jawhead999]

I believe the odds of this fight is Crawford will be huge favorited and doesn't worth to bet, maybe the Moneyline odds is 1.10x or lower. Again and again Crawford is ducking many good boxers and just pick a weak boxer in order to defend his belts, last year he's talking too much if he's the top 1 pound for pound boxer, but I don't think a real top 1 boxer will avoid challenge to fight a good boxer. I think this fight wouldn't hyped.

[aioc]

I believe the odds of this fight is Crawford will be huge favorited and doesn't worth to bet, maybe the Moneyline odds is 1.10x or lower. Again and again Crawford is ducking many good boxers and just pick a weak boxer in order to defend his belts, last year he's talking too much if he's the top 1 pound for pound boxer, but I don't think a real top 1 boxer will avoid challenge to fight a good boxer. I think this fight wouldn't hyped.

Crawford doesn't want to take a big risk right now, there are a lot of great names coming up now in the welterweight, they are young and hungry fighters but still want to take Spence because this is where the big money is, this is going to be his possible because earners in his career he already stated that he still wants to whoop Spence ass after the Avanesyan fight, he can be sure that he will come out the winner, he cannot say that if he is going to face Ennis or Ortiz because these two are a serious threat to this title.

[freedomgo]

Since to fight a strong opponent will take longer than usual just to sign a contract, this one is not that bad because after all they might not looking to gather multi million dollars here, rather it's just for Crawford to keep him in shape before he finds a worthy opponent like Spence or other world champions. Crawford will win this fight easily because this opponent, is not in his rank in terms of strength and speed.

There's no other world champions to fight except Errol Spence Jr. in 147 lbs and Jermell Charlo in 154 lbs, Crawford can't go higher or lower than that. I mean he can but his strength and speed will be not the same anymore and Crawford is already already 35 years old to do such things because welterweight and super-welterweight will be his limit. What I'm surprised is that Crawford chose David over the #1 contender in 147 lbs which is Jaron Ennis.

[bbc.reporter]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

I guess Spence fighting Thurman would be a good fight to witness, we will forget our disappointment in the Crawford vs Spence fight that didn't happen. This one should is easy for Crawford, so let's see who will Spence fight, hopefully one of the names you've mentioned.

It might be good, however, I want to watch the real contenders fight the kings of welterweight hehe. I have mentioned this a few times already, Boots Ennis is the 3rd king of welterweight boxing. We only have not wintessed his greatness because he is not being given an opportunity. I want to see Ennis vs. Thurman. This would be the best opportunity for Ennis because if he defeats Thurman, he will have a big name in his record and he shows that he can fight vs. the best. Also, it will not be similar to an ICO scam boxing fight hehehehehe.

[mirakal]

Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.

I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.

Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud.

Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.

[Jating]

Yes, it's clearly a duck on Crawford side, Ennis could be a good test for him, has power in both hands and rising in ranks.

I guess though he is just looking for a fight that will make him busy this year and not really to defend his belt against worthy opponents like Ennis and Ortiz Jr. Most likely the negotiations with Spence could be back next year after this fight or if Spence will go to the same route of having a get busy fight as well.

Jaron Ennis could be the worst enemy for Crawford these days because the latter haven't had any fights for almost a year now, this November marks his 1 whole year without getting a fight. Ennis is touted to be the next or much better than Terence Crawford because of his style in the ring and note that he is a knockout specialist too with a 90% KO ratio, that is why he is considered a much dangerous opponent for Bud.

Ennis is making some name for himself in this division and could be avoided by either Crawford or Spence at least for this year. Ennis could be the future of this division no doubt. And if both of them go up in weight then chances are Ennis could fight for at least for one of the vacated belt.

Although I'm not sure why he didn't choose to fight Vergil Ortiz Jr. because he is a much better opponent if Crawford just wanted to keep his shape and form before he fights Spence later next year.

Another good boxer, but I guess Crawford see this fight as another difficult fight for him that's why he skip Ortiz Jr as well. So he take a safe route for now and fight David just to keep his active this year.

[Baofeng]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

If Crawford is doing it, cherry-picking a fighter why not Spence, of course, he too wants to protect his record and the real money maker is Crawford's fight, a fight with any of them, Ortiz or Ennis will make money but not as big money like a Crawford fight he too, is thinking that they can complete a deal next year, so we'll see if Spence will do a Crawford.

Both of them can cherry pick the boxers they want to fight next preserved their record and then declare that they are the best in this division. Of course the fight that we wanted to see is Crawford vs Spence. But obviously, it's not going to happen and they will not face a boxer that can upset them, ie. Ortiz or Ennis. At the back of their mind, maybe they can still salvage their unification fight and get their biggest paycheck next year so Crawford taking a boxer that he can beat much easier as compare to Ortiz or Ennis.

[Darker45]

I totally understand Crawford if he's not giving too much time waiting for a better match, against Spence. Time is not on his side anymore. He may be a great boxer, undefeated, and brilliant inside the ring, but he can't remain inactive indefinitely just to negotiate with the camp of Spence.

It's such a waste for the boxing fans around the world that the kind of match won't materialize but it's just the way how business works in boxing. Avanesyan is not a popular opponent but he's certainly better than nothing.

It is possible that the Crawford-Spence fight will still happen. I just hope that by that time, both fighters are still in their prime.

[robelneo]

I totally understand Crawford if he's not giving too much time waiting for a better match, against Spence. Time is not on his side anymore. He may be a great boxer, undefeated, and brilliant inside the ring, but he can't remain inactive indefinitely just to negotiate with the camp of Spence.

It's such a waste for the boxing fans around the world that the kind of match won't materialize but it's just the way how business works in boxing. Avanesyan is not a popular opponent but he's certainly better than nothing.

It is possible that the Crawford-Spence fight will still happen. I just hope that by that time, both fighters are still in their prime.

I agree it's Spence who is benefitting from this long negotiation The last fight of Terence Crawford took place on November 20, 2021, against Shawn Porter, it will be one year and he needs to have a match it will have an effect on his performance if he waits for Spence, we cannot blame Crawford if he is secretly negotiating a fight and all of us was caught by surprise, I predict a knock out by Crawford and after that, he will renew his call for a Spence fight, it will be another drama, the boxing community is tired of waiting and the drama I don't think they will bite this time.

[Vaculin]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

I guess Spence fighting Thurman would be a good fight to witness, we will forget our disappointment in the Crawford vs Spence fight that didn't happen. This one should is easy for Crawford, so let's see who will Spence fight, hopefully one of the names you've mentioned.

Nope, too early for Thurman to have his chance in fighting a title fight and I think he should at least get through the ranks first before he fight Spence. There's Ortiz Jr. and Ennis to start with, aside from that, Spence will just give Thurman his second defeat that is why I'm thinking that the latter should survive the ranks first before fighting the champions.
Now I'm also curious why Spence is heading to 154 lbs, he should fight Ennis or Ortiz too, so that he can prove that he is not ducking nobody. Too obvious, I reckon.

[bbc.reporter]

@Vaculin. Who will Spence challenge in the higher weight division? Will it be the champion? It might be because Errol Spence's team has calculated the rewards and the risks. A fight for the unification of the welterweight championships might be high reward, however, there is higher risk. A challenge against the boxer in the higher weight division is also high reward, however, lower risk.

[Baofeng]

Also, I understand your argument, however, my argument is why did he not choose Boots Ennis, Vergil Ortiz or Keith Thurman? What is the purpose of fighting Avanesyan?

Of course, because these boxers are big threats to his title he only wants a tune fight because there is a possibility that the fight will happen next year, same with the case of Spence he will not fight these three, I will be surprised if Spence will fight any of the three, he will likely choose fight that is not on his level but will poise a challenge to his skill, its really bad that they did not agree on small details, but as long as both are on the welterweight and they have their respective titles the negotiation is still open.

If Spence is also fighting someone similar to Avanesyan to avoid Ortiz, Boots Enmis or Thurman then I want an answer to the question on why Terence Crawford is going to fight Avanesyan instead of the real contenders. I reckon no one will say it because it would prove that the first argument presented is correct.

I guess Spence fighting Thurman would be a good fight to witness, we will forget our disappointment in the Crawford vs Spence fight that didn't happen. This one should is easy for Crawford, so let's see who will Spence fight, hopefully one of the names you've mentioned.

Nope, too early for Thurman to have his chance in fighting a title fight and I think he should at least get through the ranks first before he fight Spence. There's Ortiz Jr. and Ennis to start with, aside from that, Spence will just give Thurman his second defeat that is why I'm thinking that the latter should survive the ranks first before fighting the champions.
Now I'm also curious why Spence is heading to 154 lbs, he should fight Ennis or Ortiz too, so that he can prove that he is not ducking nobody. Too obvious, I reckon.

The thing with Thurman is that he is a former champion in 147 lbs, it's that he got injured, lost to Manny and then go on a long haitus already he made a comeback and win again. So it's like for promoters they have to weigh things, which one will give them more money Ortiz or Ennis who I might say doesn't have the name yet in 147 lbs, or a established name like Thurman that could sell fights if Spence wanted to fight next?

Crawford though is having a get busy fight before the end of this year, and not the fight that fans wanted, but I guess we can all understand where Crawford is coming from as the negotiations with a super fight with Spence fell off.

[Vaculin]

@Vaculin. Who will Spence challenge in the higher weight division? Will it be the champion? It might be because Errol Spence's team has calculated the rewards and the risks. A fight for the unification of the welterweight championships might be high reward, however, there is higher risk. A challenge against the boxer in the higher weight division is also high reward, however, lower risk.

It's not yet confirmed who will he fight next nor confirmed that he will really climb the next division. Rumors says that Spence will fight the undisputed champion in 154 lbs., Jermell Charlo. I mean, who else? I don't seriously think that Spence will go through the ranks or fight the #1 contender which is Sebastian Fundora as it won't be marketable. If that's the case, he should just clean his own division first before climbing the higher weight class.

The thing with Thurman is that he is a former champion in 147 lbs, it's that he got injured, lost to Manny and then go on a long haitus already he made a comeback and win again. So it's like for promoters they have to weigh things, which one will give them more money Ortiz or Ennis who I might say doesn't have the name yet in 147 lbs, or a established name like Thurman that could sell fights if Spence wanted to fight next?

I don't think Thurman could be the best market out of the three named boxers because people wouldn't believe that Thurman can stand a chance against Spence. We already know the history, Ugas defeated Pacquiao and Spence defeated Ugas while Thurman here was defeated by Pacquiao. Can't imagine if Pacquiao-Spence fight wasn't cancelled. That is why it's much better for Spence to pick Ennis.

[YOSHIE]

The Crawford - Spence will not push through this year

I feel disappointed it should be, we can bet and see Terence vs. Errol next december, how about pound for pound stars dueling in the ring, this is disappointing. Errol seems afraid to fight Terence, Of course this will affect boxing fans who want to place bets, though, this boxing match has a change of opponents between Crawford vs David in the ring to come.

If Crawford vs David clash in the ring next December, this is a tough challenge for boxing fans/bettors because we see David is also the best boxer at the moment, but I believe this is a tough opponent for Crawford, hope Crawford can face David and can finish boxing well this time, but not sure, obviously we'll see the result next december, hopefully the schedule doesn't change again, wish I could place the bet in the correct position.

[coin-investor]

The Crawford - Spence will not push through this year

I feel disappointed it should be, we can bet and see Terence vs. Errol next december, how about pound for pound stars dueling in the ring, this is disappointing. Errol seems afraid to fight Terence, Of course this will affect boxing fans who want to place bets, though, this boxing match has a change of opponents between Crawford vs David in the ring to come.

If Crawford vs David clash in the ring next December, this is a tough challenge for boxing fans/bettors because we see David is also the best boxer at the moment, but I believe this is a tough opponent for Crawford, hope Crawford can face David and can finish boxing well this time, but not sure, obviously we'll see the result next december, hopefully the schedule doesn't change again, wish I could place the bet in the correct position.

No, Avanesyan is not a tough challenge for Crawford, Avanesyan was beaten by Ilgauskas by knock out and Ilgauskas was beaten by Crawford by knockout, he may have a good boxing record but the records fail in comparison to Crawford's records, it will be an easy fight for Crawford many boxing experts consider this a smart move by Crawford's team fighting a boxer with a good record but beatable, while Spence will have a hard challenge against former champion Thurman.

[Oasisman]

The Crawford - Spence will not push through this year

I feel disappointed it should be, we can bet and see Terence vs. Errol next december, how about pound for pound stars dueling in the ring, this is disappointing. Errol seems afraid to fight Terence, Of course this will affect boxing fans who want to place bets, though, this boxing match has a change of opponents between Crawford vs David in the ring to come.

If Crawford vs David clash in the ring next December, this is a tough challenge for boxing fans/bettors because we see David is also the best boxer at the moment, but I believe this is a tough opponent for Crawford, hope Crawford can face David and can finish boxing well this time, but not sure, obviously we'll see the result next december, hopefully the schedule doesn't change again, wish I could place the bet in the correct position.

No, Avanesyan is not a tough challenge for Crawford, Avanesyan was beaten by Ilgauskas by knock out and Ilgauskas was beaten by Crawford by knockout, he may have a good boxing record but the records fail in comparison to Crawford's records, it will be an easy fight for Crawford many boxing experts consider this a smart move by Crawford's team fighting a boxer with a good record but beatable, while Spence will have a hard challenge against former champion Thurman.

It's kinda uninteresting to see a match whom a fighter lost to his recent opponent which was also experienced defeat to his current opponent. Worst case was, it was a K.O.
Even without you mentioning Avanesyan's match history, he's an easy opponent for Crawford skill-wise.
It's indeed very disappointing to see Crawford-Spence not pushed through when the timing is perfect, where both still in their prime, and both undefeated and very skilled fighters.

[Baofeng]

I don't think Thurman could be the best market out of the three named boxers because people wouldn't believe that Thurman can stand a chance against Spence. We already know the history, Ugas defeated Pacquiao and Spence defeated Ugas while Thurman here was defeated by Pacquiao. Can't imagine if Pacquiao-Spence fight wasn't cancelled. That is why it's much better for Spence to pick Ennis.

But still though, as far as resume is concern Thurman > Ennis or Ortiz Jr, both is still not a PPV stars, I know that they are still unbeaten, but I don't think boxing promoters will give them the chance as early at this time to have the chance to fight for the belt, and it's going to be risky for both Crawford and Spence to fight either one of them. Again, I'm not saying that they are avoiding this two, but the risk and reward ratio and the expected returns might not be good.

So in this case, Crawford goes on a easy route vs Avanesyan, and who knows, Spence will see Thurman as and easy fight as well and the reward will be high in the end. And I'm seeing that this fight will sell to the fans.