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Todays world's economy is not so good. High rate of inflation and many bad things are happen, also cryptocurrency market seems not so good either. But I think it is better to hold bitcoin rather than fiat as government seems that can't do something significant improvement on economic growth. Unlike my expectations for the world economy, I have good expectations to cryptocurrency especially bitcoin. Bitcoin has a good thing that called a "Halving" where it usually cause it price to rise, while other fiat don't have anything to expect except inflation. I would like to know about your expectations about cryptocurrency, please share your opinion.

You are missing one detail. If there is no rise in the economy, there will be no rise in cryptocurrency. Don't even expect the global economy to stagnate and cryptocurrencies to miraculously grow despite rising inflation and a recessionary economy. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies will begin to grow when the global economy begins its recovery and liquidity from central banks begins to flow back into it. Part of this liquidity will flow into the crypto industry. Without this, there will be nothing to pump up the price of cryptocurrencies, it will not magically grow.

The demand to invest in the crypto was coming when economic was in good condition. People were not facing crisis and they have got additional money to invest in the crypto. I think that you must understand that if the bad impact from crisis was making crypto get less demand by the unique investors that frequently came to the crypto. There will always be a bad and good side from crypto. It can be said that if this time i can't expect something big from crypto until the crisis will be ended and peace will be coming back again.
People are preferring to hold cash rather than crypto caused by it's not so volatile like crypto and it can be used in urgent situation as well.

The reality is we still need fiat for our daily transactions if we're living in a country that's not wholly adopting bitcoin. But as per investments, we both agree that bitcoin is better than sitting your money in fiat.
The world is experiencing a lot as of the moment, coming from inflation and its being driven by the pandemic, war and other crises that's being startled somewhere else like in the FTX debacle. I expect things to be lighter soon, it won't be as low as this forever and it's okay since the crypto market just came from the top and ATH.

expectation for what? how long?how much?


if you are asking about those , then I can only say one thing and that is depend on how will market brings me.


but if you are asking about the death? or soon this will lose value? then that will never happen instead this will continue on upgrading from here and there.

I expect something more mate, Have been trusting cryptocurrency for 4 years , and experienced having a great return so who am I to deny the fact that one day I could be a millionaire by trusting this coins?

but leaving the projects newly opened and trusting only those who have  been serving people for years now.

Yes, you can become a millionaire. cryptocurrencies are an investment source of huge returns. Given the current momentum and interest, cryptocurrencies are growing profusely day after day, so I agree with you and OP. Bitcoin is a safer and more profitable coin in the long run and in light of the collapse of the global economy and the collapse of the crypto market, the solution is not to panic sell and hold Bitcoin until the next halving or until the market recovers. It is always difficult to give a price prediction, but I expect that the bear market will not last long, so we have to invest in Bitcoin, Ethereum, and many other Trusted coins and hold them in our wallets and wait.

Fiat money has never meant to be a store of value except for short time purposes. No rich people in the world have their wealth as fiat money in bank accounts and comparing BTC to fiat money is like comparing apples to volvos, they are meant for different things.

Bitcoin is a part of economy same ways as gold and art or any property is part of economy. It doesn't live in a bubble and is very much affected by economy. So if you don't have expectations for world economy, expect it to leak on crypto too.

Nothing to expect from crypto. It will be going up if the time to go up will come and it may go down if there will be another FUD or bad news to come. The output from the market is really unpredictable at this moment and i believe i just trust the process that is still going on in the crypto.
The world economy has very big impact to the crypto. The crypto itself was following the stock market and that makes me feel disappointed as a few years ago crypto was not always following the stock market. It seems like that if we will be in the sideways mode until next year.
You can expect a good thing from bitcoin but the question is can bitcoin go up when stock market was doing the reverse thing? The fud must stop to raise the interest and that will make crypto stable.

Is it just now that the economy turned out so bad? What's the real definition of a bad economy based on your view?

Hodling bitcoin can't be compared to holding a fiat if that's what you mean here. There should be no fiat vs crypto here.

If you think you have the patience to hodling bitcoin for a long then good for you. Just go with the flow and focus on your goal.

For what? He just said crypto and for the question if how long or how much then the answer will already depend on us and not on the market. The market can change from time to time but if you already now what you are doing then you can't be affected by it in a negative way.

If you are in for short term only, you will sold your coins and make a profit just before the price dumps but if you are in for long term, you may skip selling for now but you will only hodl and buy more coins. Death of coins is possible but that can only happen for the most cryptos because they don't have a good purpose on why they are built. There is no point of hodling or using them.

I remember that I got acquainted with cryptocurrencies in the middle of 2016 just before the previous growth. Yes, it was insanely cool because I was able to make good money. After there was another growth four years later, and now we entered the next cycle, which means we can assume that by the end of 2025 we will have another flight to the moon. These are my expectations, yes, I expect a new rapid growth, but only when the crisis subsides. As for money and cryptocurrencies, my personal opinion is that it is better to keep funds in cryptocurrencies, for example, in BTC and in fiat. Why fiat? The fact is that you must have fiat money for life, since you will still need to make purchases in the store, and as practice has shown, it is cash that becomes necessary when, for example, the electricity is turned off. I went through this and now I understand that fiat money is also needed. Well, for greater security, it is better to distribute funds for storage as follows: part in cryptocurrency, part in gold and part in fiat.

I know your statement makes sense. When we have a recession, people will focus on fulfilling their basic necessities, they won't have the intention to put their money into crypto investment. But how about we have bullrun in 2021 (last year)? I believe everyone still remembered that we experienced Covid-19 pandemic at that time, the world economy was decreasing much, and stocks market was crushed badly. On the contrary, crypto market experienced bullrun, BTC made a new ATH and many altcoins skyrocketed. Isn't this the fact that crypto market doesn't fully depend on the world economic situation? Please let me know if there is something that I still don't know about this.  :)

IMO, CMIIW

If recession takes place, people will run towards some highly secure asset class and Bitcoin and crypto is one of them. So whenever such a situation takes place, then Bitcoin and other crypto will undoubtedly outperform other asset classes and the gains will be extraordinary just like we had in the old bull runs.

The idea of involving in crypto is good but don't purely our future on it. Make it well-balanced.

Besides, if you will just hold, how will you support your daily expenses? Fiat might be losing its value over time but it doesn't mean they are basically useless. Instead of treating fiat as a non-sense financial aspect, why not take advantage of their good use while holding bitcoin at the same time?

Try to think outside the box, or much better if we will totally removed the box.

Another question to rise about this subject is the fact that BNB is holding a good chunk of tokens on it's BSC as well, which means if the coin itself crashes then the tokens in it could crash as well, or could have trouble. Which means that we should probably focus a bit towards having something much bigger, which is keeping BNB and also ETH alive to keep all other tokens on their chain alive as well.

Other coins with their chains do not have the same thing, but that doesn't change the fact that they are too small, they wouldn't crash the market, but BNB and ETH could, so those two should either be always kept up, or should get rid of being so central focus of token world.

What we are experiencing now in the cryptocurrency market is not only there, it's a global effect because even if you take a look at the stock market, they are also bloody.
So for me, seems this is normal in cryptocurrency and I agree with you as buying Bitcoin is better than buying any random altcoins. I already experienced this before, during bear market season, don't attract those super sale altcoins because later on, you will realize that it is much better to buy Bitcoin than those altcoins.

Traditionally investors move towards assets they consider safe like fiat or bonds, and it makes sense as during an economic crisis there are many other assets in which it would be a very bad idea to have your money invested in them, however for this attitude to change the crisis will need to be way bigger than what we have right now, and if it were to happen then that is the moment when people could try to find a store of value and begin to use gold and bitcoin as well.

My hope about cryptocurrencies may have been answered from what I experienced when I found out about it. I get a lot of things here that I don't find in fiat currency. For example, the freedom I feel here is one I may never find. That's what I feel.
However, if the question is hope for the future, I hope for more than what I've got so far. It can be in the form of profit or something else. But the profit in question is not in the form of wealth but in other things, because if it is related to wealth in my opinion it will not be good for me, even though it is legitimate to expect it from cryptocurrency.

You talk about halving, which is still very far, we have the war in Europe which is greatly affected all world economies and market. And there are unexpected news like the FTX collapse and Terra Luna.

So at the end of the year and 2023, crypto market will still be in bad shape, sort of a crypto winter as others say.

But it doesn't mean that it's the end, as far as my experience goes, this is the perfect time to accumulate, everything from bitcoin the the rest of solid altcoins because they are cheap and then simply hold on them and wait for the next bull run.

Somehow, a bad world economy doesn't mean an advantage for bitcoin. If people are suffering from inflation and are on a tight budget, they won't have money to invest. The war Ukraine in Ukraine should stop which I believe happens next year. The world is better when it is at peace where nations and companies can focus on development and stability. Right now, I think bitcoin is starting to recover from its FTX indirect effects. But there will be no sudden big movements until the halving year. At that time, most nations are recovered from the effects of war and COVID-19.

Definitely, war is very bad for everyone, not just those countries that are involved, but those 3rd world and developing nations that rely on countries that are at war.

That's why we are in a recession right now, and so everyone is on a tight budget and may not be investing on bitcoin as they want to be because they don't have the budget right now and could be waiting when everything has settled down a bit.

If we are talking about purely just the price, I expect bitcoin to be over 100k and calculate how much increase that is, and I want similar from the rest and even more, that should be something like 6x or so if I am not wrong, give or take, and something along those lines to x10 at most should be what others are doing as well.

I know that's not going to be soon, but that is my expectation and I would love to see it happen. Maybe it won't happen that quickly, but it should be possible at the very least. If there is a bull run, then even 10x for bitcoin is not unlikely, as long as we do not stop and keep hearing about bad news, we should be able to keep rising.

The expectation that people and I have about cryptocurrencies is that they can get big profits again after the bearish period ends. But unfortunately, we don't know when this will end and maybe the current crypto market is also affected by the not-so-good world economic conditions. Even so, people who have known bitcoin for a long time are still optimistic and believe it will increase again. But crypto is not a way to get rich quickly, especially since we are still in a bear market and crypto still needs time to start rising high.

My expectation of cryptocurrency in general and btc in particular is - it will continue to exist despite the economic instability the whole world is currently passing through. Particularly btc which is the backbone of every other crypto in the market will always stay strong, there is no other asset like btc so why won't it survive. This type of question mostly comes up during the bear season, and the answer is always the same, btc will be fine, i can't say much about the alts because most of those projects are based on a false foundation that will eventually collapse someday.
So btc should always be the main option and most importantly, have a long term goal for a proper reward.  

I think cryptos such as bitcoin do also have an inflation but it's not that high as fiat money, thanks to the halving. You think crypto market is not good but it was only normal and this is due to the bear market that happens after the bull run. People shouldn't worry about this but they should be excited about it as well other than the bull run because they can be able to buy at cheap again.

For me, I think it's better to also have fiat money with us because there are times that btc isn't accessible or not supported. Btc is also unstable. Fiat has nothing to do with the improvement of the economy but it's the government's obligation so dont put the blame on it.

As investors, all of us have the same expectation, which is to earn profits as much as possible in the bullish season. However, bigger profits mean a bigger number of crypto coins we are brave to buy and hold during the bearish season. If we doubt the future of crypto market and be afraid to buy crypto coins during the bearish season, how we can earn big profits? It is not about how long you know Bitcoin or altcoins, it is about how your trust in crypto. Dreaming to get rich isn't a problem, but you must understand that it requires time and hard effort. So, if you want to be rich with crypto, you must trust in crypto future. Although the world economy doesn't look good, we should believe crypto market won't get a big influence in the long run.

Expectations will always be there for Bitcoin especially for long term. Many are hoping that Bitcoin can finally reverse its current trend and go back to the bull market, many are expecting this to happen early next year. Other altcoins will surely follow and that is Bitcoin leads the whole market. BTC should really be the best option for long term, but its advisable to diversify so its good as well to have some altcoins.

All of us who believes in crypto are still positive that in every ending of bearish there will be Bullish to come and who can blame us?
we are here to earn and support crypto so getting anything from this market will be our best way of staying here so what have to expect more?
though rising this year isn't enough to trust but what we wanted to have here is the result in the coming years.

you asked  with no complete details , cryptocurrency is composed of thousands of coins so what would be the answerable part? are you asking for specific coin such as bitcoin or the whole market?

if about altcoins then the answer is not certain because all depends on how bitcoin will perform.

but if you are also asking if this will end all? the answer is nope, crypto will be here for humanity .

But what would be the reason for those MANY that expect to happen early next year mate? what are the possibilities and reason for this to come? because what i do believe is that in 2024-2025 that the halving will take place?

Never doubt good hopes for crypto, especially bitcoin, because what happened will be repeated and incidents like this have happened and even happened a lot with various factors and in the end bitcoin bounced back.
it's only a matter of time and what happens to the world economy and other events will pass and everything will return to stability not only crypto or bitcoin, and what we must always remember is that bitcoin is for the long term. And never lose hope in bitcoins because at the right time and in the long term it will make your wish come true, and actually now is a fast time to collect bitcoins and hold them for the long term. And always use the money you can afford to lose, and you must be able to manage your finances properly and not buy things that are not important.

Indeed if you want to hold for the long term then Bitcoin is the one you're looking for, educate yourself before you invest in crypto or Bitcoin and know the risk before investing in Bitcoin. Right now maybe it's the best time to change your FIAT to Bitcoin but keep in mind that we can reach another bottom before we rally to another all time high.

Also, I expect that we can enter a bull market next year around mid year.

it is correct and wondering why people still doubt what crypto can bring to them?(of course for legit project only and not shitcoins)

in many years for at least 13 years of bitcoin existence and altcoin of course , crypto had bring lots of fun and riches (and losses to greedy and fool)

so what we wanted to stablish here is expectation? of course we wanted and looking for more great years.

wondering why after all these years that bitcoin had been showing increase each year yet they are doubtful ?

Even if this is true we still need to be careful, when it comes to the markets our timing is really important, while investing in bitcoin is a good idea some traders may then think that it is a good idea to invest in altcoins as well, but this is not correct, there are many altcoins which have yet to disappear during this bear market, so it is important to stay away from them and only invest in them if the bull run is already underway.

I feel like timing is not as important when you get as it is when you get out. You could buy bitcoin at any point, it could be at 17k, it could be at 67k, sure it would be sad if you bought at the top, and you would be upset about it, but you could buy more and more and recover that, there is a solution to it and that's the good part about it.

However, if you bought even at bottom, even if at 16k, and sold now at 17k and then the price went to 100k, that would be sad and there is no recovery for that, you would have to buy along the way again for higher than what you sold, and sell again later when it's even higher, not the ideal situation to be in at all.

All of that cannot be obtained instantly and I totally agree with you. The bear market continues to haunt everyone and it often pisses people off because prices are relatively low and right now the best option is to buy at the bottom as it is now. But choosing the right cryptocurrency must be chosen, otherwise something undesirable will happen, such as a scam or bankruptcy.

Indeed. Buying at the right time is the key to earning maximum profits. However, it is not easy to know when the right time to buy is, unless you buy for a long-term holding. If you buy for holding a long time, it is not very difficult to determine the time to buy. As long as you buy in the bearish season, it is the right time for you for buying.

There is no problem investing in altcoins too. But make sure to invest in top altcoins, choose the altcoins with big market caps and with strong fundamentals. The top altcoins such as ETH, BNB, Matic, ADA, DOT, SOL, LTC, or TRX are safe enough for our investment. These altcoins already survive a long time as the top altcoins, we can trust these altcoins. However, even if they are safe enough to invest in, we still need to always monitor the new update about their current issues on their official channels. So, if there is something bad to happen, we can make a decision quickly.

Big number of altcoins are getting delisted from Exchanges regularly. We need to be careful handling altcoin investment. Whenever we invest, we make the mistake of expecting the profit within specific time period. We don't have the patience and this mostly lands people into altcoins that pump and dump. It is always good to invest on bitcoin and be cautious with altcoins that are down to the top list. Even the top list could fail, one such example is the FTX and Luna Terra.

and it may have small delay yet will continue to grow like that .

economic instability is part of the system and this is normal way of showing how healthy this market.

never mind most altcoins but only the top 5 of course
the backbone of the whole market and that is what cryptocurrency is. Bitcoin must be the main coins that will be in our wallets for safe investments .

Instability = healthy? I think that sounds wrong. So, sorry if I don't agree with it. I think a healthy economy or a market is when it runs at a good condition. I think you already know what that means. There's something that has been done on why we are experiencing an instability but let's hope that it will be sorted out as soon as possible so that people can live happily again.

Most altcoins are shit but I think the number of good altcoins are more than 5. So, don't say that only the top 5 of them are great and must be in our bags. It's not wrong to extend the list because they are not the same in terms of potential. On top of this, btc is for sure the main investment by the crypto people.

Cryptocurrency at large has it own functionality and if economy seems not to grow that doesn't mean it would affect bitcoin in fact to me I sees it to be the alt means of reviving our money or assets. With the inflation rate I may decide to convert all my fiat use them to buy bitcoin and hold and after some while I could sell back to gain back my money so is another means to save us from financial meltdown or crisis.

That is exactly what I have been doing. Inflation is still high, and yes the interests are going up but that doesn't mean that it will stay high, it will go down, and the moment it starts to go down, no matter when it is, now or 2 years later, when that happens, and it reaches like 2%, then we are going to see a huuuuge skyrocket in bitcoin price, and I mean unreal, like 200k+ easily.

That is why I am buying as much as possible because even not going up on next FED meeting would have a good amount of increase, not that huge but big enough. Which is why I believe that we should be buying bitcoin with all we have right now, to get ready for when that happens.

But at the same time, if the economy is not growing, then cryptocurrencies will not grow either. There is no miraculous escape from inflation, and cryptocurrencies are among the first to suffer if we see any geopolitical uncertainties or a downturn in the global economy. I read a lot of different opinions that bitcoin is the salvation from various kinds of economic shocks, but in fact, it turns out that bitcoin is almost the first thing to get rid of when there is a crisis in the world.

Of course I hope the market can recover or the price of ETH can reach at least $ 3500, a year ago I invest Eth, BNB, Cake and so on when the market was at the top, now the price of drops and more than 70% I lost money, when there was a moment for rising. disturbances such as Luna and FTX.

Without a doubt it was a bad idea to buy at that moment however you have two options, the most simple is to hold your coins, it is not very exciting but if you can wait for long enough then the price will eventually recover and you will sell your coins for a good price, the other option is to do DCA and buy even more coins at their current price, if you do this then the average price of your coins will go down and not only you will obtain more profits in the future you will also get them even faster than by just holding your coins.

That is exactly what I wanna say though this is altcoin section so mentioning bitcoin is a bit odd , but yes trusting bitcoin and Ethereum together wil other altcoins that i have been keeping for years will be my key to become millionaire one day , I am not in a hurry because I knew that this will take some years more but willing to wait till it happens.

In moment like now where market is totally unpredictable and even Bitcoin that is the secured coins are experiencing like this , I think the best way to deal is that either Buy more bitcoin or Hold your position.

because there are no reason why need to sell , or need to panic because market will surely recover though ,may take at least another 2 years from now.

A good thing when we move assets from Fiat to Bitcoin or Altcoins, the opportunity to continue to grow is very large so that I am sure that the future of cryptocurrencies will continue to improve so that we can get a large income or profit.

We do have that 4 year cycle which everyone been saying that we might be seeing that bull run on year 2026 or after this long crypto winter.There's no way that we could really be able to ensure

on what would happen in the future, whether we would be waiting up for that long or would really be seeing that current pump or sudden change market trend from bear to bull.

For those people who had been on this market for how many years does have definitely that kind of awareness on how this market behaves.
Selling out on losses is really the dumbest thing to be done by someone which it is really that not that right in the first place.

That's the best thing to do at this time. But many investors are hesitant to do so because of FUD. They don't buy at cheap price even it's an opportunity, it's because they prefer to see the market to recover first before they will buy.

Yes but not all investors are thinking the same way especially those who only invest due to hype of the specific crypto and not because they understand what they're getting into. Thus, investing is not for everyone who don't have patience. Because if you don't have patience then you can't hold until the bullrun comes since you probably panic sell at loss.

I think on the contrary, if the economy does not develop, it will also have a huge impact on crypto. When life is stable, people will have a lot of idle money and from there will look to investment channels to increase assets as well as increase income. But when the economy is in recession, people will have difficulty in daily life, and they will only care about life and not spend too much money and time investing.

Even in this crisis, we can feel it. Not only cryptocurrencies but even the stock market are not immune to the impact, the entire financial industry fell into a severe slump this year. Crypto too are part of the world economy and is not immune.

We have faced many obstacles in the crypto industry, with so many platform collapses and negative sentiments crypto industry is till much alive despite all the unprecedented happenings occurs all year long. Crypto is not yet dead and this coming year 2023 crypto enthusiasts have much more hope that crypto will recover and continue to prosper even more.

I think because the crypto market is not stable it has little to do with the economic downturn. If the right projects are chosen, the crypto industry will continue and reach the peak of growth currently the condition of the crypto market is very bad but we have to wait patiently for the recovery of the market. Even if the economy does not develop the crypto market rises with the investment and increase in value of currencies like bitcoin.

We have faced the Covid-19 crisis and still, we survive. Now with this war and economic crisis, I still believe this won't make the market collapse. However, we still be seeing the market grow instead and continue adoption. I can't make myself think negatively but rather be optimistic about the incoming.
I'd believe the 4-year cycle of the market, we have this bear season this year, and can be extended next year but someday, all of these drops and corrections will turn into rallies and ups. Though we can't expect high, at least we have some views that the marker will recover soon just like before.

Better days are coming, what many people do not know is if they have what it is needed to hold their coins until those days finally arrive, and for the people that are experimenting these conditions for the very first time this is a difficult test, because even if the economy seems to have somehow become more stable we never know if yet another war could start and then the current balance we have reached is suddenly broken and we get to see yet another crash.

that 2 years is enough time from now to recover , I have seen so much pressure from all over the market but as we continue to hold makes us strong and staying trusting this crypto.

but we  must not talk about Bitcoin only here because OP is asking about crypto and that represent the totality of the market .

Buy more and hold long that is the best treatment now.

Everyone who invests in crypto certainly expects the prices of the coins they invest in to increase. They are trying to be patient in waiting for the market to strengthen and increase again. And right now, they are still waiting and still buying lots of coins that have the potential to increase.

After last year's upswing, now the market conditions are down but this is only temporary and once this process is over, they will see the market will start to increase and eventually make a new history. Many of the coins will increase and give a big return, so they are still patient. And their biggest hope is that they can get that biggest profit again.

if you does not understand what is crypto then try not to put big amount before fully understanding , remember that there are so much to expect aside from this mate , investing in 5-10 coins is better than single currency so meaning diversification is the best attitude mate and never let yourself dig into solo investment .

I generally expect couple things from crypto coins. Mainly altcoins I mean.
I expect them to have use cases. Give it or take whatever, it should have use case, it may be about video game, it may be about financial instrument, it may be about creating passive income through defi. Or it may be about opportunity to move my money quickly and cheaply.
My second desire is for an altcoin to not lose value all the time so I can deposit it anytime in my cold wallet and I wanna be able to forget it completely.

Currently, it is very difficult to choose and sort out coins that have ideal criteria from my personal point of view. Maybe because careful research is needed and a review of the people behind the coin project. My wish for an ideal coin is to have strong backups, a solid and focused team as the initial roadmap, then to be able to provide real products to investors so that they have a continuous level of trust.

Right now it's difficult to choose a good project even though there are a lot of them but we don't know if they gonna end up rugs or not. Since many people are aware of next year's recession and inflation they don't want to risk their money in this crypto investment anymore. We can't expect that a project that have a good team good product will be survive in the next 5 years but it's always better to choose a project with real effort rather than a scam project.

market will recover but Soon ? I'm not sure because 2023 seems to be more bearish that 2022 as this is closer to Halving and we knew what happened every year like that , though sideways may happen but very little chance so be ready for the incoming dumping.
FTX effect will surely come to the early of next year as the season of Christmas stands for strong market but the next months will be different .

remember that you'll never lose your money until you sold all your coins because the long you hold is the long your funds remain as is, only the value changed mate but the total of your holding is remaining.
try to believe in Hodling as long as you are having legit coins like what you said Ethereum and Binance coin  and also Cake? well swapping seems to be fading nowadays.

I think we still need to be patient to wait for the market to really recover.
it seems like it is and I don't see the market recovering any time soon,
but in crypto anything can happen and the important thing is to keep abreast of developments

If you look at the market trend until now, even today the market is red again, so we can't expect too much, now is the time to keep buying because the market is dipping, in 2 years I'm sure there will be a lot of altcoins that have skyrocketed 10x or more, don't panic and think short term.

It seems that it is and we better be realistic with the existing market conditions,
we also never know when a bear market will end,
it is better to remain patient waiting for the bulls and as much as possible to take advantage of the bear market

While the value of fiat money decreased due to high market inflation, Bitcoin prices also suffer a decline. But guess what, we never see any recovery happens to fiat money which is far from what happens to Bitcoin. Though we see a huge decline in Bitcoin, however, we can never say this is meant to be forever as we know that recovery comes next after this bear season. Yet, we never know exactly what will happen to Bitcoin but if we mentioned fiat, you will be expecting a lower value in the future.

Agreed, the market scenario of bitcoin and fiat are moving on the same track. In all means it is assured of the recovery with bitcoin whereas the same won't happen with the inflated fiat. In all market situation if we keep ourselves strong and are with the focus on preparing for the worst, then we won't get hurt at any Market situation. Most of the experienced cryptocurrency users does it in the right way.

actually I was asking for specific coin if there is mate , but yes you are correct that market is changing so we must be ready to what will come from positive to Negative aspect.
timing is still the main course here , because selling before dumping is not that easy to decide because we cannot find this exactly when to come.
dont look for skyrocketing mate, instead look for at least doubling your funds in that 2 years and it is more than enough to expect .

What do you mean expect from cryptocurrency? Is it about the market volatility rate or about the survival and sustenance of cryptocurrency generally?

I can see a system that will highly be dependent and decentralized Iin the future. I can see so many nations legalising cryptocurrency and accepting it as a payment form.

But about the current market value, coin prices might not erecover anytime soon. This is likely to take several months if not years to recover and stablize. At the moment, I am expecting less from the markets and cryptocurrency generally.

It's likely the bear market will end after next bitcoin halving. By there we have to remain patient, without despairing ourselves and losing hope in bitcoin, what can be hard for some investors, since we don't know if we have reached the bottom yet. In my opinion 2023 can be a stable or a bad year for bitcoin, but not a prosperous one. So hard times may still be ahead for crypto enthusiasts.

Anyway, the short term isn't to be trusted. Even if we were in a bull run, we could never make decisions based on what is going to happen soon. The goals in crypto universe must be drawn always thinking on long term, that is: period of time in years, and taking bitcoin's cycles in consideration.

means we need to wait for another couple of years before it finally ended because Halving will come in 2024-2025 in which several years from now but I can fully understand the sentiment because we have seen that happened for how many times before.
Bitcoin and other crypto are only making pump after 4-5 years.

Actually time is not a problem for an investor even though they have to wait in the next few years to wait for a bull market to occur and be able to take big profits from investing in altcoins and Bitcoin, of course.
In conditions like this we can take advantage of it by taking Bitcoin and altcoins which have the potential to experience a significant increase in price when the Bitcoin HALVING occurs in the next few years.
This will definitely happen and can be seen from the market history in the past few years.

Bitcoin is a long-term investment, if time is not an issue for us. What is our problem here? Losers in the market because most of them are impatient, and because of waiting too long they lose confidence in the market, which in turn causes them to sell their assets. For me, timing is the key to every problem in the market, if you can patiently wait for bitcoin for several years, you will be profitable even buying at a high price.
The halving is certain to happen, but will the price increase happen? Still an unanswered question, don't be sure of anything in this market.

If they are a long-term investor, yes but for a short-term investor, they can't afford to wait that long but they will only sell after a couple of months. For them, time is important more than the extra profit but I think they still can be able to earn more before those long-term investors sell their coins and make a profit, as long as they will buy back again right after they sell or they can wait first for the price to drop a little.

The halving is for BTC so BTC is the one that is expected to rise. It's important to max out this coin first before anything else. Maybe after the halving, that is the time that we can properly divide our funds to some other cryptos.

I think halving in 2024 and the following year 2025 could be too late for some people to wait. I mean in 2017 we had a big up but that was in December, then we had a terrible fall in all of 2018 which was bad, but in 2019 we started to recover, that means we need to recover in 2023 to be the same. Sure we had a big up in 2021, and a terrible fall in 2022, but we need a bit of recover.

I am not saying the highest point, that took us until 2021 to peak a new ATH, meaning from 2017 to 2021 that was 4 years and I understand the logic of that, and we should wait, but just because ATH was broken in 2021 doesn't mean 2019 was bad, it was a good year and 2023 could be too.

I think he is asking in general meaning all of the expectation from crypto currency market and that is what we need to address here.
Legalizing ? are you sure ? what would be the reason for this acceptance ? I'm afraid that if you are looking on this then you'll regret that.
indeed ,market will remain lowering this year and maybe the next? that is more possible to happen.

I feel like legalizing it is the way to go because many big nations already did it. I mean you could check out USA, UK, Germany and the like where you could buy and sell crypto and own it and store it as well. That's the majority of people anyway, most people trade it or buy and hold it, as long as you are allowed to do that and as long as there are companies in the crypto world, like exchanges for example where you can legally run as a company then it's going to be fine.

If all those huge nations do it, most other smaller nations will do it too. Some won't, like China may not, but we are talking about majority of the world, and I feel like it's legal in most nations already.

Ideas like this are usually used for bitcoin investments, for the long and short term bitcoin can always be relied upon. Even though at times in the short term bitcoin is very close to volatility, meaning the tendency to maintain investment value and as many people hope, the best step is to hold bitcoin in the long term.

Because what I understand, only bitcoin can be relied on compared to other existing cryptos, besides being able to maintain the investment value, bitcoin is also the best investment at the moment.

The market trend usually always follows bitcoin, when the recovery process is going well for bitcoin and that's when potential crypto will also follow it, maybe people's tastes will vary, but I think Ethereum is a good choice to use in investing.

on the other hand by waiting for the bull season to come again, there are still ways to make money with new projects that have long term potential and airdrops for the side. I see a lot of projects with the concept of blockchain or crypto wallets. this could be a correction of coin choices that will fold in the future with great potential

I have invested at the wrong time when the price of cryptocurrencies is really very expensive,
of course what I hope is that altcoin prices can return to new ATH again, especially now that I'm currently holding altcoins like Verasity, Crypto.com, and Fantom,
Let's hope that 2023 will be a bullish year for cryptocurrencies.

It most likely is bullish, but i can't say if it's bullish for the tokens you are holding. Especially for tokens like Verasity i wouldn't automatically count in to be a part of next bull run, or some other tokens no one has heard of. Some low caps will why high but there's really no way of knowing which. Fundamentals doesn't necessarily matter. In the time of hype, hype counts most.

Do you buy crypto coins in 2021?
If you bought the coins in 2021, it was the bullrun season. You must understand that it is time for crypto coins to increase their values significantly. Why you didn't sell your coins before 2021 ended?  ???

Sure, there should be a chance for another bullrun season, but it seems not in 2023. I don't know why you think 2023 can be a bullish year, but you must know most people predict the bullish season will probably happen in 2024 - 2025.

This is how the market operates. When the market turns bullish, the entire market follows the footprints of bitcoin. When the market is bearish the same will be the trend. In recent years the cryptomarket have begun to coexist with the traditional market. For that reason we were able to see the market dependence over the economy of the world.

The certainty of making the newest ATH in each bullish period is only owned by Bitcoin and a few coins/tokens, the rest of them are not even unable to touch the last ATH moreover to make newest ATH, because crypto competition is very tight, old projects that do not show good progress will very likely be replaced by new projects with great profit potential, but regarding the coins that you have, don't know for sure whether they will be able to form the latest ATH, hopefully your patience will be fully rewarded.

Cryptocurrencies are like anything else in markets you will never generate endless amount of money. All bull markets will end somewhere and start bear market. In my opinion you should embrace you got from your first ever crypto acquisition. You will do better in next bull runs for sure. Altcoins are going around dip now although I think this year in 2023 we will definitely observe another altcoin run through some altcoins hitting top 10 or 20. Your altcoins are not bad coins by the way but I wouldn't hold them nowadays.

Currently there are thousands of altcoins that offer more sophisticated technology than the old altcoins on the market so it is less likely for old coins that are not actively developing their projects to return to get new ATH only Ethereum and several other top altcoins that are likely to be able to get new ATH because so far this ETH coin has got strong fundamentals.
Talking about Bitcoin, I think that so far no one doubts that bitcoin will continue to be able to create new ATH every bullish period.

But, it doesn't mean that some old altcoins are not good to invest anymore right? Even if they can't attain a new Ath but as long as they can recover from a dip and show some increases then I think we can still be able to earn a profit on them plus we can use them for their designated use cases other than for payment purposes. Their devs can't do anything much on them anymore but if there's something that they can do then that is only to fix the issues that may occur.

The reason why some old alts can't increase too much anymore is that their values are already huge as compared to those alts who are still new. They are still small so they may be more to come from them.

Right now the market have begun to move same as that of the traditional ones. When there is bull market, the same gets followed by the bear market. This is how every market operates and in between the fluctuations will bring revenue for the traders. Whether it is bitcoin or altcoins, my choice is to accumulate as much possible, because the variation in the market will be big in no time compared to that of other form of investments. Holding as much possible and keeping ourselves for the worst scenario is my way of expectancy.

It's as simple as during a bear market we collect coins and during a bull market it's a good time to sell them,
seeing the market slowly rising of course that is good news,
hope it will continue and not a bull market trap we'll see.

Crypto is not only about buying at dips and waiting for the bull run to sell. You need to have a strategy that's spread over a period of time. IMO the best way to accumulate bitcoin or alts is through DCA (dollar cost average). If you are doing DCA then you are not affected by market fluctuations, see bitcoin historical price chart to verify that.

When you say traditional it means the old ones or when the market is in a good state but the move that the market is showing lately is still the same to the last year's bear or by the time we are battling with the $20k zone. Indeed that there are two cycles here and that is the bears and bulls. We are currently in the bear right now but it doesn't mean that the price will now always on the low side.

There are still fluctuations. This won't be gone as long as the coin is not a stable coin or as long as it is not a pump and dump coin as those coins, will just move mostly on one direction. Cryptos have a big potential as compare to other forms of investments but they are also more riskier but we can minimize it as long as we will keep on learning.

VRA & Fantom both of worth holding i think, still these are already pumping 15%-25% up. Though i don’t know what's your buying price but i would like to recommend you should keep holding for the long term to hit new ATH. Exchange token isn’t good to hold in the long term investment.

But you need to know the price of bitcoin will determine everything, altcoins are able to survive when bitcoin prices are stable so altcoins start to recover. It doesn't matter when you recommend VRA & Fantom for the long term as long as you trust and believe, but when you only hold these two altcoin assets which have even been pumped 15% -25% of course that is quite high. The suggestion to hold bitcoin is also recommended for the long term. I even suggested several times to people to buy bitcoin at a price below $ 20k, and now bitcoin is able to stay above $ 20k and is currently priced at $ 23k. Bitcoin is a priority and altcoins are the second option or as a reserve asset.

You can always increase your profitability potential by choosing only worthful cryptocurrencies, instead of holding any of them, just to grow the number of coins and tokens in your wallet. If you get rid of shitcoins by swaping them into something substantial like bitcoin, ethereum or other promising altcoin which has great potential for the next bull run, you will see returns will be much more satisfactory, while investors who insist in altcoins which work based on pump and dump schemes will see those tokens performing poorly even during a bull market.

Crypto.com is still very good to buy in my opinion, because they have also done Proof of reserves,
so for now maybe until 2024 CRO is still very good to buy, especially since the price of CRO is also very cheap,
yup this is a great opportunity to gain Profit.

Once crypto exchange backed cryptocurrencies were in much demand and the same have provided with good rate of interest for the investors. In recent days more number of exchanges have failed and the same have caused massive crash on the market. To overcome the market crash it had took its time. Based on the growth around the market crypto.com is a good choice and it is in good position. However while investing on these coins you need to be careful to book profit at the right moment.

True, they are now risky due the number of exchanges collapsing but to remove this doubt from the public, crypto exchanges have came up with an idea and that is to show their reserve funds or what we call POR as on what @ningrum said.

Currently crypto dot com and binance dot come has it, so maybe we can still consider investing on their own coins after checking that their POR is still in a healthy condition but like you said, constant monitoring and then selling at the right time is needed once we saw a strange activity on them. Now my response to @OP's question is of course I expect cryptos to do well in the future so that I can also gain better profits with them.

When cryptocurrency was just down for more than a year, it was assumed that the dream day is coming again. In the meantime, the situation of the market has moved from Red to Green. As the inflation decreases, the crypto market will return to that previous state. Now just waiting for that day. Although many of us thought that we would see a big bullish in the next year but crypto might not wait until that time. This year it can be fixed at a better stage and next year we will see the appearance of Crypto Bullish.

The bear season is not over yet and I was still seeing that this year the market remains bearish.
We can't say that because if we see the price of Bitcoin surpass $20,000 we are going to be bullish. If we can take a look at the previous two bull seasons, it started after halving and it was been predicted to come the next year 2024. This it means that this year 2023 has no hopes for it.

We are glad to see the market is up a little bit, maybe that is for now. But if we think about Bullrun this year, it is too far from happening.

The biggest issue with Bitcoin is that we cant predict it, we cant predict whats the maximum or minimum. The current wave may not be a big one but it has taken market out from bearish trend. We still cant predict where this run will take the market. I keep on reading that in 2023 we will see another bull run while some says 2023 will be bearish, all this is just speculation. We just need to focus on price moments of bitcoin and buy it when its gone down. Cant say when Bitcoin will go up but it will go up some day.

I wouldn't expect much from crypto right now, especially when there's a lot of negativism surrounding the industry. Many people are hoping 2024 will be bullish, but I'd take that with a grain of salt. If the global economy isn't restored by that time, don't expect prices to "pump" anytime soon. After all, investors won't be pouring money into crypto when everything is going downhill because of inflation.

I'd expect the FED to keep raising interest rates, until inflation is reduced to 2%. Other countries may follow suit (especially those within the EU) to help strengthen their national currencies. We can't tell what will happen with crypto in the long run, because of its unpredictable nature. As long as you diversify your investment, you'll have nothing to worry about. Just my thoughts ;D

This time i would still expect profit from crypto, i believe that crypto will make a new history this year and i believe that those who can hold will have a big gain, many expect that this year would be a bullish year for bitcoin and i hope so.but we still beed to be careful  bitcoin is still high on volatility stop loss is always a good strategy.

If 2024 and 2025 aren't going to be bullish momentums for crypto, it's going to be a very unsual situation faced by crypto industry, because the periods of time following bitcoin's halvings have always been very positive for the industry as a whole, despite global crisis, such as the Covid-19 pandemic, which didn't prevent bitcoin from hiting its 69,000$ ATH in 2021. Although I'm not hopeful about an extreme high new ATH, I still believe bitcoin can surpass its previous mark in the following 2 years, following the logic history shows us so far.

We can only wait what will happen in the next 2 years, whether the new ATH is reached or not.
But right now the important thing to do is how much we buy and hold bitcoin to prepare for the next bull.
If you just sit back and don't buy anything, of course there will be nothing to prove.
Make good use of the momentum, buy more, hold and enjoy the benefits.

If a person can master enough market knowledge, timing, patience, risk taking, courage etc. then I think he can be successful in crypto currency. Many say that they have suffered huge losses investing in crypto platforms. Those who say these things are not regular investors in crypto platforms. Real investors and market savvy people never talk about their small losses like this because they know crypto currency is about profit loss etc. However, those who analyze the market regularly and can use the time effectively, are quite profitable. So I would say that if you use crypto currency properly it is possible to achieve something good from here.

I am getting more and more ready each day whenever I buy more bitcoins, and I trade a bit as well but my goal is not to have more fiat when trading, my goal is to have more bitcoins, even if it means I could have less in fiat because bitcoin sometimes goes down.

This type of investment allows me to have as much bitcoins as possible and be ready for the next bull run, it could be this year, it could be next, it could be 5 years down the line, doesn't matter when it will happen as long as I get to do it. And this is why I care about it so much, since it is such an important thing to focus on and how you could end up making a profit from it as well.

You are right, if we don't buy any coins, we can't get profits when the bullrun is coming. Bullrun must come whether in 2024 or 2025, so it is time to prepare our coins. Regarding the new ATH, I don't really care about that. IMO, although the new ATH cannot be reached, we still can get enough profits if the prices of crypto coins return to their ATH in 2021. We must realize that the current prices of all crypto coins are decreasing much, they already dropped significantly. People expect the prices can return to the ATH when it was in 2021 (previous bullrun), or they can make a new ATH (higher than previous prices in 2021).

this year?what makes you think about that? remember that we are years far from Halving so as if we can see what will happen as this early?
does it looks like not progressing? each halving price grows high and how can we not see the progress on that?
it is recovering mate , we are just ended the pandemic so expect long time of recovering  .

There are different type of investors mate , some does not require time while others this is very important lol.

Like me , some of my coins are for long term while some is for short term and others are for semi long term that means one thing , I am willing to wait for some time and I am ready to sell at other time .

we will be considering to buy or sell depend on market flow .

I agree, I am one of those people who are long term investors and we do not really have too much to do, I bought bitcoin, and I still do sometimes, but that's my whole job, I have to do nothing else, it could be 30k tomorrow or 20k tomorrow and I would not make a single move, which means that it's a very easy and lazy job and could be alright.

I know that it is not going to be the same for traders for example or short term investors, they want to make sure that they could invest into something that could make a lot more money in a lot shorter time period and that is why I believe that we are going to end up with difference in the workload that we both have.

I am one of those people who do not have much wealth, my hope from cryptocurrency is to multiply small capital into large capital, so that it can improve my household's economy. of course I have to be determined to set aside a small part of my remaining money to buy bitcoin, and I consider that as a replacement for my pocket money, so that even though there are high fluctuations in its movements, I remain calm, and later the money will double so I can open a business real estate or buying safer assets, as part of diversification

I agree, this is the same mindset that I have as well. I am not rich, and will never be "rich", like millions of dollars type of rich. However, if I can have 20k dollars, that would change so much in my life, and I mean like for good, not just for a while.

This is what I am aiming at right now, and that is not something I can't reach, it is totally reachable about as well so all I gotta do is keep working on it and eventually I could reach it, and it may take some time and maybe years, and need to multiply my investment a few times over, but when I reach it, it will definitely one of the best times of my life and it will definitely be great.

You have all the time to do your research and established your decision making in terms of investing your hard earned money in this market, there are many movements that might affects your position but make sure to learn more about this industry.

If youthink Bitcoin/crypto can give you that amount of profits, taking the risk is really something that
you needed to consider, knowing both sides, profits and losses all the possibilities should be taking into account.

We don't know the full status of his life. Maybe he is also busy grinding on his work and doing side hustles because he seems unfortunate right now, therefore, he could be lacking of time to make a research but he said he is buying Bitcoin so we shouldn't worry a lot. Bitcoin is a newbie-friendly coin and almost anyone can succeed with it, as long as they have a common sense to buy low and sell high.

There are movements or distractions that can affect us but if we are equipped with knowledge, we can endure all of those because we know that they are only a kind of test. Only those who can survive those are the ones that can succeed in this game.

Crypto went up during the COVID-19 pandemic because of rising inflation rates. There was massive government spending, while the money supply was expanded. That's what caused prices to explode like crazy. But now times are different with the Russo-Ukraine war and governments' hawkish stance towards the economy. The FED (US Central Bank) has been rising interest rates to keep the US Dollar strong, greatly affecting crypto market prices.

If the FED hasn't settled down by the time 2024 arrives, don't expect BTC or any other cryptocurrency to reach a new ATH in price. We should take this opportunity to buy and "hodl" more coins before everything goes back up again. Despite the downfall in market prices, crypto (especially Bitcoin) is still the best-performing asset in the world. So technically, Bitcoin holders are winning compared to both stocks and Gold holders. Who knows if we'll become the next crypto millionaires by holding strong no matter what? Just my thoughts ;D

cryptocurrency changes the world's financial system, transactions are getting easier and in the future mass adoption will definitely not be inevitable. I feel lucky to be able to get to know bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, in the future there will be more and more people whose economic lives will change 180 degrees because of cryptocurrencies.

I am also an average person who has small wealth. By investing in crypto, I expect that I will increase my economic level someday. If you expect to have a real estate business, I just dream to have any business that can be my main job in the future. It is the right way to buy Bitcoin or any top altcoins, they will make us to have an opportunity of having a better future. Although no guarantee for a success, we can see a big chance for it by seeing the history of bearish-bullish season.

Cryptocurrency is indeed a technology that must need vigorous activities. There are lots of people who makes good expectations about trading but at the beginning they have not such good experience and a solid knowledge so they fail to get prizes and their expectations become down.

For the successful future users must have knowledge about the volatility that how the pieces fluctuates quickly. So when they accept the fact that with the success there will always hurdles and hazards so punctuality can elevate chances of success also overcome the fear about losing and think that if you loss this time then this will have a significant impact on your trading and can make your trading appreciable.

Yup, if you are equipped with the right knowledge Bitcoin is the right choice to invest your money, those possible distractions can be avoided and it will lessen the chance of making big mistaks while you are into this investment.

Right knowledge will survive you, if you are still new in this industry better to invest not just with
your assets but more on your time to understand the deeper idea regarding to this business.

After reading yours and many others same wishes, I realized that maybe I have been discrediting the amount of wealth that could be generated by crypto. I always used crypto in a way that it would help me keep my purchasing power, maybe the dollar amount would go up, but what can buy one ice cream today, should grow to be dollar amount of one ice cream 20 years later as well, instead of losing its value to inflation.

Obviously that is not what people aim at, they want to make sure that they could make a profit even bigger and larger than that, and I am guessing that I have been asking far too little from my crypto future, maybe one day I will get hopeful about something like that too.

We arent that blind on whats the actual purpose on why cryptocurrency had been created, it is really just that it turns out that there are other ways and benefits which it could really give out opportunities to those people who are dealing off with it. We cant really deny that we are here mostly because of money making or income opportunity.Somehow expect the unexpected because this market is really way too volatile
and unpredictable.There's no way that you could really be able to know on what would be ahead, there are lots of factors which would really affect value or price.
Projects with real use case and relevance are the ones who would really be sustain out for long term.

you posted  days ago? here is the market mate

https://coinmarketcap.com/

the market had been running good for the whole February(may not continuously but increasing at least)

world economic recovery cannot happen in overnight mate, there is no way that the effect of all problems for years? will not end like that.

wait for the next few years before seeing that.

yups , that is what we tend to do and will also have less stress about the market volatility , imagine you only need to buy and wait? what more can we expect from this strategy  ;D :D ;) :)
exactly . why spend more time and mind thinking when you can have less?

but if we have no regular job and only doing this for living? then yes they can do act but if not? then try to value our time.

There are many people who see the success of others in crypto currency and get confused about when to invest in crypto currency and when they will succeed. It is not right to expect that. Because he has achieved success in his own merits. Just because he's successful doesn't mean you'll be successful. He succeeded because of market observation, adequate understanding of various coins and investment at the right time. Seeing its success, if you invest everything in the crypto platform without understanding anything, then you may face a lot of losses, let alone success. So it is not right to expect so much from crypto currency after seeing the success of others.

That's the tricky part about the market. Only thing that you need to do in order to make a profit is to buy and wait, you do not need to do anything else, in fact "waiting" is another name for doing nothing, because you are required to do absolutely nothing while waiting, so it means all you have to do is buy, nothing else.

And in this market, where you can make a good profit by just buying and nothing else, people still end up not making a profit at all, which is the weird part. I know it sounds unrealistic to some people, and they can't wrap their minds around the fact that it could be this simple, but it is! and this is why everyone should do it.

Sure, crypto value is improving. It continues to raise over time.
Although there is a bearish season that triggers Bitcoin value to drop free fall, we have a bullish time to raise the value. Bitcoin price is only around $23k-$24k today, but it can pass $68k-$69k in the future. Altcoins prices are also the same, they increase along with the improvement of the projects. ETH and BNB are two examples of altcoins that already increased their values significantly. In the bullish season, altcoins prices also have a chance to skyrocket. Well, this is why more people are interested to invest in Bitcoin or altcoins, they realize that the prices will increase more and more in the future.

well, weeks after your posts? market recovered though not that high like what in 2021 yet we can see it moving Green each week.
maybe stagnant to 23-25k but this is much better to look at than continues dumping right?
so let it happen now as we are believing about the coming hype any time this year or the next.
if we are totally trusting bitcoin then we must trust with all of hearts .

I think you are off-topic on this reply,  and if we are talking about copying others we have to consider a lot of things such as under what variable did the first investor acted under to have gained that level of success and if the latter will follow the same pattern of action.

-Aside from the fact that cryptocurrency gives us the alternative choice for both investments outside the traditional economy, Bitcoin most especially is an economic tool that has revolutionized the global financial system.

how they are confused ? do you mean they are interested ? not confused?

wrong mate , We can also become successful if we will follow their steps specially not being greedy lol.
but if we also followed those steps so how come that we will not to be successful also.

it is not expectation alone , instead it is a wish and dream to become one lol.

that is if you are investing in good coin? because you cannot just buy and hold when you risk money in shitcoin or those pump and dump currency that needed to be check from minute after minute.

that is Bitcoin mate , meaning we must mention a specific currency when talking this in general term .

I guess that it's really not an easy thing to handle when you consider all the possible things that could go wrong. I think it's clear that people are just generally quite afraid of what's going on, and I understand why, I would say don't be, I am not and nobody should be afraid of the market. But at the same time I do understand people who are afraid because that's all they saw.

In the end, bitcoin will go up, the year 2023 will be a good year, it has been a good year so far and I am guessing that it will continue to be a good year in the long run as well. It's just not that easy to figure out that easily, it will take a bit of a time for it to happen.

yes, it is, because investing in crypto cannot be expected to be 100% successful,

but may we all benefit from our investment in crypto, and what is certain is that our goal is to achieve success in everything including crypto.

Many of us want to get rich with crypto, without actually doing anything in return. Buying and "hodling" crypto alone, won't make you a wealthy person overnight. It takes discipline and a little bit of patience to get the results you want in the long term. Instead of focusing on the price, why don't people use crypto as if it were cash? Crypto is all about digital payments, so the more people use it, the better.

We can't tell what will happen in the future due to the industry's unpredictable nature. But if history repeats itself, market prices should go all the way to the moon within the not-so-distant future. As long as you don't go crazy putting all of your life savings into crypto, there should be nothing to worry about. Just my opinion :)

If you are lucky and your entry was on the right timing, I mean after doing your DYOR and manage to pick the price during the heavy downfall then hold and wait till the market bounce back.

Then we can say that opportunities to earned a huge amount of money will surely be possible, a matter
of how good you can project your estimated time frame and how good you are in managing risk with your investment.

If you look in different perspective? Then yeah what you said is indeed what must happen and do but remember that each of us has different looks in cryptocurrency and most of us sees crypto as long term asset than just a purchasing material do best you have our own opinion and doings and respect each others belief

The world economy will recover and won't turn worst as some others predicted. The bitcoin halving will remain a crypto bull run next year and the following year. I expect ATHs will be reached once again on bitcoin and some altcoins. I am getting pumped and excited although I really really need more funds in order to take advantage of the coming bull run. But I guess I am not selling my house anymore. Just most of my stocks' investments will be shifted to cryptocurrencies by this year or next year. I expect a lot from crypto next year and the following year. I am really hoping that I can recover everything that I lost last 2018, the pandemic and global crisis wherein lots of businesses were closed.

I don't really agree with your decision, because if the world economy is bad, then the crypto market will definitely experience a decline due to very high volatility.
I prefer to keep the fiat for now.until this mess is completely healed.

My hope about cryptocurrencies is that access is very easy to access crypto, it can be a medium of exchange in various places. Maybe this will take a long time, what else is a lot of fud that causes people to not believe in crypto and prefer fiat over cryptocurrencies, but I believe many will switch to crypto even some of the world's largest companies have started buying bitcoin

Are you afraid of some predictions related to the issue of recession?
I personally never believe that issue, I think it is only FUDs. The world economy is fine, it recovers gradually after we have a severe crisis during covid 19.

Commonly, the period of bullrun just happens after Bitcoin halving. We will have Bitcoin halving in Q2 of 2024, so I am also very sure that we will have bullrun season in Q3-Q4 of 2024.

Why do you need to sell your house?  ???

If I were you, I won't shift my stocks investment. Diversifying assets is better, why don't to have assets both in stocks and crypto together? However, it is your right to shift it or not. DWYOR

Of course, we are all afraid of recessions and that probably includes a lot of rich people as well. Although the rich are the ones that can easily take advantage of a recession due to their deep capital and influence. I agree, we are recovering and we will be fine.

More capital to invest? Not just in crypto of course. I am sensitive and allergic to a lot of stuff so the best place for me to live is near the sea. This is my new goal though and hopefully, the next bull run will help me accomplish it. ;D

Stocks performed badly in my native country mate. I no longer trust our government and these big corporations only care about profit and not for everyone. Although I might keep some stocks and I can also add more investment when I feel good about it.

that is Bitcoin mate , meaning we must mention a specific currency when talking this in general term .
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That is 100% true. People (myself included) keep advising everyone that it would be wise to just invest and hold it as long as possible, I keep saying the same thing to everyone I know as well. But this is true for things like bitcoin or ethereum, they can pick a shitcoin and they could lose all their money if they do the same thing.

It is always important, from short term trading, even including day trading, to long term investment, no matter what you do, it is important that you take care of the situation very well and do not pick a horrible shitcoin to invest. Otherwise you are going to end up with a situation that will cause you to lose a lot of money.

considering the growth of digital technology is increasing, I think cryptocurrancy is a very promising means of investment, where many currencies are in the form of digital coins such as BTC, ETH, BNB and many other coins that have high potential to be able to provide benefits for holders, and of course we hope that cryptocurrencies can provide additional income that can meet our daily needs.

in the digital era like now, I personally really hope that cryptocurrancy will grow rapidly in the future, because crypto currencies such as bitcoin, binance, ethereum, and other digital currencies can be the right solution for the unemployed to be able to make money that can sufficient for their daily needs,

It will recover but I think not in a great extent as there are some countries who can't keep up with the pace. Bitcoin halving and crypto bull run is not the same but many of us think that halving can trigger a crypto bull run. Well, let see about that. I am not saying that I am not optimistic but I was also like you who still believe for a new ATH on BTC and other cryptos.

You are not selling your house anymore, but does it mean you already sold your other house before? Dang. You're right, don't sell the thing that you still need because there are still a risk in investing in Bitcoin. You must not transfer all your other assets in crypto. Just let them as is, and treat them as a part of diversification.

Bitcoin price growth and altcoins won't be the same as before so I am a little more conservative here. Maybe $100k for bitcoin is achievable. Even at that price, there'll be a lot of money put into it in order to reach that price.

No mate, this is my first house. But in 2018 I was forced to sacrifice more than 10 bitcoins at $3k+ each just to make sure I have funds available to pay the last remaining balance once it's completed. What's in my head right now is to focus on crypto and then diversify again at the start of 2026.   

I prefer bitcoin over fiat because bitcoin has a halving that will make the price of bitcoin significantly increase and bitcoin will be scarce. A simple example is if you try to send your money to another country, you will know the level of bullshit from the bank if you use bitcoin for 2 to 3 minutes. sent easy via bitcoin that's why I prefer bitcoin over fiat.

I think that's mainly because many people come in during the bull market, and they missed out on the bull market itself, they came in halfway through the bull market, bought it and then it went up only a bit, but then for the past 1.5 years it has been crashing and they only saw the bad side of it.

Some of them already left and that's a terrible thing, but at the same time there are some that are still in the market and they are going to end up seeing something much better when the bull run happens. I was afraid during my first ever bear run as well, but with more and more time I started to see something better and I am doing much better these days as well.

The market is much better now compared to late 2022.  However, at the beginning of 2023, the cryptocurrency market was giving a lot of positive signals, it seemed that the market might go to a better stage from now. But the market is going negative again. Everyone who is currently involved in cryptocurrency has an expectation surrounding cryptocurrency. It is from that expectation that many are spending their precious time and investing money in cryptocurrencies. However, expectations from cryptocurrencies should always be kept within limits.  Because the crypto market is not that safe. But at this time, it is better to buy and hold bitcoin than to keep paper money in the bank, because if the market goes a little better from this situation, it is possible to earn a lot of profit.

As we all know, Bitcoin is resistant to inflation as the supply is fixed. With economic situations, the price of Bitcoin can vary, but 1 Bitcoin will be equal to 1 Bitcoin no matter what. When it comes to fiat currencies, 1000 dollars 10 years ago doesn't equal 1000 dollars today, due to inflation.

Of course I hope the market can recover or the price of ETH can reach at least $3500, Cake and so on while the market is on top, now the price is down and more than 70 % I lost money, when there is a moment to rise.

Governments Print money to manage the foreign remittance, funds in economy.
If Crypto has limited supply there be market driven price and use as commodity.
Decentralized money flow is key thing that we expect

I think when the world market doesn't improve then it will affect other markets like crypto and stocks.
so holding bitcoin right now is also risky, holding fiat can also cause its value to fall if the price is unstable against other currencies.
so everything is at risk when the economy is not stable.

The user must have knowledge of the volatility that makes the pieces fluctuate quickly. So when they accept the fact that with success there will always be hurdles and dangers so timing can increase the chances of success also overcome the fear of loss and think that if you lose this time it will have a significant impact on your trading and can make your trades quite meaningful.

Pretty interesting how you relate volatility to our life or when achieving success but I think volatility is not a hindrance on the experience coiners because this is how they craft their wealth but just like the hurdles in life, volatility can also slow us down on achieving our goals. This is why we need a patience here in investing. It depends on the loss that we incur. If it's a big one then it will have a big impact on our life but if it's only small, we can easily overcome it.

As a beginner, we should only start small because we still have a limited knowledge and we are very fragile with our emotions. We can only gradually increase the amount the moment our knowledge is also improving.

there is no guarantee that bitcoin will be fine, if the world economy is disrupted.
recently one of the banks in the US went bankrupt and forced everyone to withdraw their money and put it somewhere else but it doesn't mean that it will be there forever, there will always be displacement.

knowledge is the main key in achieving success, in addition to patience. on the other hand we also have to be able to take advantage of the moment, when the pump market means we also have to be able to sell it without greed, and vice versa. by being able to carry out such a strategy I hope to get rich from cryptocurrency, and hopefully I can open a business from the results of this investment

Yes, that's very important! Knowledge is your advantage as to how you describe and mentioned your point. If you have that capability and skill to adjust to every market situation, the timing will favor your decision making.

Most of the people who collect profits mostly have good experienced and knowledge with the business,
whatever types of market condition, they can gain benefits.

not always bad days all the time and not always good days go safely without risk. all things must have a small or big risk, it's just us how to respond to the problem that is happening. just an example of bitcoin investment happening minus our money there must be a way out patiently waiting for the bull season to arrive. will definitely be returned to our finances and get a profit. what is impossible in the world of crypto which is very impossible it can be, be patient, persevere without giving up fighting. success can be achieved

Cryptocurrency well surely make a history and i believe that many people are now rich because of cryptocurrency, i think the chances of becoming rich is big in crypto than doing your daily job with a minimum salary, i have so many friends that has now financially free because of crypto even if they only make crypto as thier part time work most of them are bounty hunters and at the same time investors. So have patience we are not lucky this time but soon maybe our time to become rich will come.

I don't really recommend you to stop loss, because in my opinion it doesn't need to be done, unless you invest in shit coins, but if you invest in cryptocurrencies that are popular, then you don't need to be afraid and never do stop loss, because it's better for you to do DCA (my personal opinion), but everyone has their own opinion and strategy.

Exactly, everyone has their own opinion and has their own understanding of how the business works. If you trust the asset, you invest your money. I also agree that there's no need for stop loss as it will cause you to lose your money.

But if you are unsure and you are investing with some meme coins or new projects that you are just using,
for quick benefits, stop-loss is very important to avoid losing a lot.