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April 03, 2023, 09:56:38 PM
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As long as the issue is solely based in drops, I don't think there are many who care, drop is a giveaway type that requires you to be in the right place at the right time, and for casinos, it is usually in their chat box that the drop happens, and it is always in a tiny amount, it is always so insignificant due to the number of persons receiving it.

As of now, I have no reason to doubt that casinos are not being genuine in terms of drops, or chat rain as some refer it as, I don't see why they should be dishonest on a tiny thing as a drop they offer to their community.

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April 03, 2023, 10:32:32 PM
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There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.
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April 03, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
Often we can't as individuals, or least i don't know a way. But when we think it trough, i wouldn't be worried. As casinos are trading millions in a day wouldn't need to cheat. Because getting caught would mean people would talk about it. And you would need only few people to first start a doubt, and confirm such a thing could be catastrophic to the casino. And once again, they have money to pay and it's peanuts to them, so why wouldn't they pay, as at the same time it's excellent marketing tactic.

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April 03, 2023, 10:46:48 PM
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There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.
this is the method of casinos platform now, all this new casino platforms are using bonus to trap or bringing many people into their platform because there is no gamblers who can resist a bonus because a gambling person need what it will use to test it prediction if it will be a very big chance for it to win in gambling or not that is why bonuses us in a platform always have a very big trafficking in their platform
If you are an old gambler then if there are odd numbers which are really that good to be true then would really be suspicious about it and would really be have doubts on dealing with it but if you are a newbie who doesnt really have much knowledge about numbers then you would definitely be diving in without having that kind of knowledge but later on you would really be that realizing that it isnt really that worth.

Transparency is something that we cant really be able to prove out.Just like on what others been saying, we dont know on whats happening behind those monitors and the codes been programmed.
Thing here is that we do play on the reputable ones which we could somewhat assure.

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April 03, 2023, 10:57:17 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.
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April 03, 2023, 11:26:45 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

If they are not true to their words they will lose the trust of their loyal players, if they say they are dropping these bonuses to qualified players, they have to mean it or those who are qualified and never receive anything will complain, they need not post the list because players have privacy setting to protect their account and casinos will not compromise their players' privacy in exchange for a list, sometimes these bonuses and giveaways are announced on a newsletter and kept within the community, it's not an open list that outsiders can just look up.
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.

and this is the very reason why we can't question the honesty of the casinos when it comes to their bonuses or drops. because those are just bonuses and they are just doing these on their own accord and on their own funds. just be grateful that they have this kind of perks from time to time.
as long as they are not cheating their players in terms of their winnings, i don't have any issue with how they distribute their rewards or how much of it has given to their patrons.

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April 03, 2023, 11:46:14 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

People here have accounts at gambling sites and they can tell if they ever got these drops or bonuses from the gambling site ?

For me, yes the gambling sites do give away free money sometimes but that money is not so big and also the gambling sites earn too much money, giving a tiny portion back to gamblers will only gain gamblers' trust and I would call it an effective marketing technique.

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April 04, 2023, 12:28:36 AM
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Just like all businesses mate , they use to have their own way of luring players and depositors and with all those promotions and promises?

I'm sure that there is no 100% guarantee that those are true and reliable , because as what mostly said? gambling site are here to take Money and with giving so much , I believe that it will be harder for them to gather more.


maybe all we need to check is about the game play setting if they are giving higher probability in fairness and not cheating players with good paying system.

those are the factor that we must learn and have aside from bonuses and giveaways .









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April 04, 2023, 01:19:43 AM
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Just like all businesses mate , they use to have their own way of luring players and depositors and with all those promotions and promises?
I'm sure that there is no 100% guarantee that those are true and reliable , because as what mostly said? gambling site are here to take Money and with giving so much , I believe that it will be harder for them to gather more.
maybe all we need to check is about the game play setting if they are giving higher probability in fairness and not cheating players with good paying system.
those are the factor that we must learn and have aside from bonuses and giveaways .

Normally, you do not expect a casino or let us assume a business organisation looking for clients all the world to make profit to tell you their lapses. Believe me you virtually all the publicity, announcements,bonuses etc they do are all cover ups just to get at people to register with them so that their traffic would increase which they can otherwise use as a key point to also get at others who have that as a criteria to identifying with casinos population or large numbers of registered members. It is rare to see any casino that is open and transparent in their dealings. No casino wants to take chances as they are all out for your pockets and profits. So talking  about transparency and honesty in identifying with casino I would say it is a waste of time because you  would never see any casino that would come out plain to tell the real color of their vault  and how it looks like.

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April 04, 2023, 02:52:11 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

People here have accounts at gambling sites and they can tell if they ever got these drops or bonuses from the gambling site ?

For me, yes the gambling sites do give away free money sometimes but that money is not so big and also the gambling sites earn too much money, giving a tiny portion back to gamblers will only gain gamblers' trust and I would call it an effective marketing technique.
It will be difficult for us as gamblers to know whether the casino has dropped the prizes on all of its members or whether some still haven't received it.
But if you haven't got it and know that you deserve it, you can report it to the support service so they can give it to you.
I have received the gift several times without knowing whether I deserved it or not and it was a gift.
And I think the casino will definitely be transparent in giving these prizes to all its members and won't disappoint them.

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April 04, 2023, 05:17:10 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

You are probably right that they aren't actually giving away the specified amount of prizes to the amount of people that they have mentioned...and if so, there is absolutely no way to know how many of the people who received the prizes are connected with the casino itself or are accounts that belong to the casino and/or its staff. Casinos are shady, it will never be otherwise. They are built on exploiting weakness and greed out of people. You can't expect transparency from them, nor should you fully believe in the fairness of any promotions/giveaways that they offer.
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April 04, 2023, 05:36:48 AM
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This is actually more important than most people seem to think it is. If you say you are dropping $50 000 in a promotion, but you are really only dropping say $10 000, then it is false advertising.

We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  Roll Eyes

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.

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April 04, 2023, 05:46:07 AM
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As long as the issue is solely based in drops, I don't think there are many who care, drop is a giveaway type that requires you to be in the right place at the right time, and for casinos, it is usually in their chat box that the drop happens, and it is always in a tiny amount, it is always so insignificant due to the number of persons receiving it.

As of now, I have no reason to doubt that casinos are not being genuine in terms of drops, or chat rain as some refer it as, I don't see why they should be dishonest on a tiny thing as a drop they offer to their community.
simple explanation but easy to understand.
in small things like drops in the chatroom it becomes one of the clear proofs that the casino is fair and honest.
we don't need to think about big things that are shared by casinos like Giveaway and just take a simple example like drops that are often shared by loyal customers of certain casinos and if we count all the total drops that are given it is a large number too and proves that the casino is honest.
well, even though there is no real evidence about casino honesty, from the little things we can understand about casino honesty.

in other respects it's really about the honesty of the casino in something it distributes to its customers it doesn't really matter. it's just that when there is an event held by the casino we just have to attend and take part. if we are lucky we will get the prize but if not, it means we are not lucky. no need to think whether the casino is honest giving the prize according to the amount stated by the casino.

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April 04, 2023, 05:47:34 AM
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Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???

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April 04, 2023, 06:30:45 AM
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Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???
lol , there are many gamblers that does not rely in any bonuses or airdrops instead it is because the site or reliable and has bigger percentage of fairness.
though many of bonus seeker are mostly small gamblers (i am not saying that big time players are not looking for bonuses) but from what I've seen ? it is what it is .

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though many of bonus seeker are mostly small gamblers (i am not saying that big time players are not looking for bonuses) but from what I've seen ? it is what it is .
With the bonus that small gamblers can get, they have the opportunity to be able to play even longer because with the bonus they will get a few dollars or a number of free spins to continue the game.
There are also many big gamblers who are looking for bonuses, it's just that they tend to choose every available bonus, like if a bonus can provide big profits, then there is no doubt that big gamblers will chase it and it's very easy for some big gamblers to be able to fulfill the requirements of the bonus, since they have more money and of course the amount of their bet is already large.
Sometimes what is debated about bonuses is the requirements because some of the requirements are quite difficult so that not all gamblers can easily have the opportunity to claim the bonus.

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April 04, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
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This is actually more important than most people seem to think it is. If you say you are dropping $50 000 in a promotion, but you are really only dropping say $10 000, then it is false advertising.

We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  Roll Eyes

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.

Frankly I dont really care about bonus drop which worth few bucks only, so I do not really care how much is actual amount being dropped by the casino.
It is just a bonus for me, I dont gamble for bonuses especially low bonus amount such as bonus drop worth few bucks.
Yes we live in a technological age, but lets say the casino provide the list of the recipients of the drop, will you trust the list?
Because if you started it with negative thinking, you may still say that the list is fake as it wont be able to be verified unlike your bet history.

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April 04, 2023, 01:14:06 PM
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If a casino is doing such trick by giving away fake numbers then sooner or later they will get caught in some way and also the bonus amount is not really big compared to the profits they are making so it's just peanuts for them which is going to bring more users along with more profits but these are all my opinion.

From my observation many casinos award the daily, weekly and monthly bonus to the users and others in that way which can be confirmed from the one who received which we often see in their ANN as well.

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April 04, 2023, 01:38:33 PM
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We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  Roll Eyes

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.
I can understand your point of view. I don't think it is hard for them to implement something like that either. The question is probably what data they need to share so that others can verify it, and if the users are comfortable with their data being shared or not. On another note, whether they want to spend some time and money doing something like that is another question. For example, they can say that they already prove their trustworthiness to some extent with their verifiable gambling history or something similar, so there is no need to do that. Especially if they already have a good reputation in the community.

I don't think they will ever bother to make something like this verifiable. Judging from how most users seem to not care and just focus on whether the platform will cheat over their gamble or not, that's where they will redirect you if you ask how can they trust them.

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