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Title: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Saisher on April 09, 2023, 11:42:02 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: rdluffy on April 09, 2023, 11:49:37 PM
My opinion is that it is practically impossible to happen in free countries.
Even if a person is "addicted", the individual is free to make the choice to gamble or not. It is not an activity where the company forces the person to gamble.
Just make the comparison with addictions to drink and cigarettes, nobody is forbidden to buy or consume.
There can be discouraging actions, but a certificate like this I find extremely difficult.

Controlling countries can easily make gambling illegal or not allow the individual.
I believe that most gambling sites contain a readme with the information that everyone is responsible for the bets and the money.

In your opinion, who would issue this certificate? Who would have the right to decide whether or not the individual can bet?



Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: harizen on April 09, 2023, 11:56:44 PM

That is an impossible thing to happen. Why just in gambling? How about other considered sinful activities like liquor, cigarettes, etc.

And online casinos? How can they even monitor such things? What are the responsible gambler traits should be like?

No way the government will ask "online" casinos to implement such things.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Zlantann on April 09, 2023, 11:57:50 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
This idea might not be effective online because casinos might not be able to enforce these laws. Who will issue these certificates and what are the criteria that will be used to issue them it? Even addicted gamblers will get the certificate from authorities because  I don't think there will be any means of identifying gambling addicts except through their financial statements. And most crypto gamblers always want to keep their gambling life secret which is why they prefer using cryptocurrencies.

In my country, most people that don't want the Covid-19 vaccine were able to bribe hospital officials with money for vaccine cards or certificate. That is how gamble addicts will have unhindered access to this gambling certificate. People will always lose their wealth to gambling if they gamble without control. Government should increase the rate of addiction preventive awareness mainly among underaged gambling because children are prone to addiction.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: goinmerry on April 09, 2023, 11:59:10 PM
I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Saisher on April 10, 2023, 12:31:58 AM
I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.

I prefer to have a dissenting opinion because there is really nothing impossible online, thirty years ago no one would have thought that you can play casinos in the comfort of your home but we have hundreds of them right now.
the requirement need not apply to all players but to specific types of players that contribute to being compulsive gamblers there's the possibility of casinos complying because of the license issuer requirements and it should be put in their TOS.
It's not really a good thing but the government and authorities will always have a way, so this is not really a remote scenario, in my opinion, the possibility of anything is always there.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 10, 2023, 12:41:57 AM
Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: robelneo on April 10, 2023, 01:14:22 AM
That will be too much but if it will be targetting specific gamblers like gamblers losing millions of dollars, I don't have a problem with it as I am not in that category but definitely the casino will suffer because these people are casino's cash cows and if these are the requirement of their license issue they might run their casino without a license or get their license from other issuers if possible.
The beauty of Cryptocurrency casinos is privacy and anonymity something that will be taken out once the issuers implemented this
I don't think the majority of the gambling community will adhere to this.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: kotajikikox on April 10, 2023, 01:24:00 AM
Unless the government put them in this? to apply such action then they will proceed , but gambling sites or owner will never implement this themselves, who cares about what happen to the gambler? who cares about their life? casino has only one concern and that is our money lol.
yeah there are still casino that gives privilege to their players and some gives good return but accept that mate that this is for money.
like us who gamble? we need either Money or fun.
Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.
in this I will completely agree .


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: GreatArkansas on April 10, 2023, 01:35:10 AM
This is always possible. This is a big WIN for everybody but I believe there will be a hard time for the government to fully implement this.
It's difficult also to predict how such regulations would be put into place and enforced, and it's likely that governments and online casinos would need to work together quite closely.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Wexnident on April 10, 2023, 01:54:40 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
How would one even consider a gambler a "responsible" one? Sounds like a lot of paperwork, and if other casinos don't follow it then the effort simply is just wasted. Besides, casinos are a business, they may take into account a users personal interest by offering warnings, but no way in hell are they going to put out manpower to handle all that stuff, it's a loss of potential customers (since a lot would probably just not do it since a pain, kyc already is, imagine this being added).

The idea made me think up of a centralized group that handles registrations of gamblers though, so that there's like a one for all account type of thing so that KYC is only done once and tracking is much easier but, well, the hard part is trying to get a centralized group that can handle casinos in all countries to form though.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Strongkored on April 10, 2023, 01:59:51 AM
If there is a responsible gambler certificate it will be another form of corruption, the gambler can easily get it even though he is not a responsible gambler because it will be the same as a casino license that can be purchased even though the casino ultimately commits fraud and the licensee does nothing. What is happening now will remain like that, the gambler must be responsible for himself if he is addicted then he must find a party that can help him get out of the addiction, and the casino will not be responsible for the addiction of his players unless the players themselves do self-exclusion because of the impact Gambling has been damaging for example on his finances.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: peter0425 on April 10, 2023, 02:25:14 AM
there is always a possibilities because we knew how harder it is for the casino to operate and serve gamblers as the government because restrictions and rules will always be to apply.
But I also believe that Gambling sites don't want this implemented unless being forced.
as I can see the insult towards that gamblers being question while he has his money to risk and play.
this will  only be applied to those who might be borrowing capital but for the capable? i don't think there is a need to comply.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: bittraffic on April 10, 2023, 04:28:41 AM
If it is up to the casinos, they will not ask for these certificates since they all want the gamblers to lose.

I wouldn't really expect the government to do this with the intention to protect someone from getting addicted or spending more money. In the future, we already have CBDC where the government can just shut down your CBDC account and expect to see you homeless soon.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: piebeyb on April 10, 2023, 04:33:56 AM
if the casino or government does that then where do they get the money from, isn't that funny if it's implemented, for example cigarettes in my country almost all cigarette packs are labeled with pictures of diseases caused by smoking and written in big bans for smoking but all return to cigarette addicts, cigarettes increasingly in demand, then if the casino and government apply the certificate you mean. whether that will change an addict for the better, not really, after all it's not going to happen


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Merit.s on April 10, 2023, 04:52:13 AM
 This will not be possible because gambling is made for adults that is from 18 years and above
 At this age the government believes that you can decide on your actions before putting it into display. Government are benefiting from Casinos and the casinos are into  business, which they have meet up to the government regulatory policy before operation. In a country where gambling is legal people have the freedom to gamble or not,therefore a certificate will not be required for you to have access to gamble. Addiction is a common thing as long as we are humans,if you give so much time to whatever activities you are into it then becomes an habit to you. Sex,smoking, drinking, gambling, taking of hard drugs can easily make you an addict and can lead to destruction of one's life,if not gotten rid of. There is always a warning to these kind of activities because the company and government knows their implications. So if after been warned,you went ahead and become an addict whose fault is it ?


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: len01 on April 10, 2023, 06:06:04 AM
gambling activity it is the freedom of everyone who wants to do it. the rule of asking for certificates will only make things worse in the gambling world.
and for me, if the government implements this method, many gamblers will disagree when gambling is an absolute right or someone's freedom to do so, but must be limited by rules like that, of course gamblers will be angry if that happens, while customer privacy is very important for gamblers who don't want to show the certificate to the government or to the casino.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: acroman08 on April 10, 2023, 06:06:39 AM
a license to gamble? sure, there might be a possibility(since we don't really know whether it'll happen or not), but if you ask me, I don't think the government will impose something like this. requiring people to have a "responsible gambler certificate" in order to gamble would heavily affect the gambling industry in their country and they could lose a lot of revenue from it(which I am certain they don't want to happen). apart from that doing this could cause people to have a strong negative reaction to it and could result in protests or revolt(as yahoo62278 mentioned).


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Jating on April 10, 2023, 06:12:34 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

I don't think that this is a good idea though for casinos, I mean everyone is welcome to play, not unless you are underage or you are a suspicious person. It's business and I don't see them restricting anyone from entering or playing, whether online or offline casinos.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

If government wanted to protect everyone from gambling, then they should ban it simple as that.

But as you can see there are countries around the world that has a lot of casinos, meaning they support it at some point because they might have been getting benefits from casinos, specially during the pandemic wherein gambling was one source of income from government.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Oshosondy on April 10, 2023, 06:14:52 AM
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
What the government will work more towards is how they can maximize taxes in gambling, they do not care if you win or lose. The gambling sites have some ways like articles that gamblers can read for not to be addicted, but how many gamblers are reading that, also that the gambling sites prefer people to lose so that they can have money. So it is gamblers that should be wise, not addicted, and they should be gambling in a responsible way than thinking that the government are ready to restrict gamblers in a way no freedom again.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: aioc on April 10, 2023, 06:19:08 AM
Its never been implemented before even on offline casinos so I doubt if they are going to start doing that, responsible casinos already have it in their TOS that their users should play with money that they can afford to lose and they should be responsible, they can always limit from betting if they think that the player is putting too much of everything but that casino will receive complaints about their action, the casino tends to please their players first then the authorities because they are the one putting money and continuously flowing, the life of the casino is money coming in, and they will not just stop it.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Viscore on April 10, 2023, 06:34:18 AM
My opinion is that it is practically impossible to happen in free countries.
Even if a person is "addicted", the individual is free to make the choice to gamble or not. It is not an activity where the company forces the person to gamble.
Just make the comparison with addictions to drink and cigarettes, nobody is forbidden to buy or consume.
There can be discouraging actions, but a certificate like this I find extremely difficult.

Controlling countries can easily make gambling illegal or not allow the individual.
I believe that most gambling sites contain a readme with the information that everyone is responsible for the bets and the money.

In your opinion, who would issue this certificate? Who would have the right to decide whether or not the individual can bet?


You have a point mate. As long as you're living in a democratic country, you have all the right what to do in your life as long as its not against the government rules. You can drink, smoke, or gamble all you want, but make sure you are responsible of its consequences. And with regards to this type of certificate, I guess this is only possible in countries with small population as the government can control every actions of their citizens. Other than that, majority of the countries cannot control the activities of every citizen, though they can make restrictions.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Kemarit on April 10, 2023, 06:51:53 AM
Yeah, I agree with the majority here, it might not even work if you think about it,

- every gambler should be responsible enough, there's no way that a government will have control over them
- casinos are business, so they might opposed this one to the T if the government will go after this kind of certificate
- for sure gamblers as well will cry over this proposal

And if ever this is implement, there will still be individuals who or can't control their gambling emotions.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Oshosondy on April 10, 2023, 06:53:22 AM
You have a point mate. As long as you're living in a democratic country, you have all the right what to do in your life as long as its not against the government rules. You can drink, smoke, or gamble all you want, but make sure you are responsible of its consequences. And with regards to this type of certificate, I guess this is only possible in countries with small population as the government can control every actions of their citizens. Other than that, majority of the countries cannot control the activities of every citizen, though they can make restrictions.
I will prefer casinos to get to a point that freedom will not be lost but gamblers on all casinos can be known through maybe decentralized casino identity which a gambler that go for a self exclusion on one casino will not be able to register or login to play in other casinos, but this world is too large and this remain impossible. But about what you said, their should be freedom is the truth, but people should be who should first go for it and it should be effective, not that government should be the one making it mandatory.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Darker45 on April 10, 2023, 06:57:02 AM
I doubt it. Although we are often reminded to gamble responsibly, the truth is that gambling and responsibility do not really go together.

If the government really wants to protect its people from the possible repercussions of gambling, they might as well just ban gambling outright. I am a gambler myself but if there is a law that prohibits gambling entirely, I guess I will readily support it. Whatever amount of fun and money that gambling has given to some of its players, they cannot equal the losses and misery of the rest of the gamblers. However significant the amount of taxes paid by gambling businesses, they cannot equal the social ills gambling has caused. The employment that gambling businesses generate cannot compensate for the big number of gamblers who have either left or got kicked out of their jobs.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: ryzaadit on April 10, 2023, 07:34:20 AM
I don't think, casino are gonna to be put any kind of document like this on their term & service.

Even the simple one like "ID", they still not asking you at the time you are trying to entering CASINO. People are freely to entering casino without showing the ID, most the time they ask you at the time withdraw.

For verified purpose, incase you are win a lot.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Distinctin on April 10, 2023, 07:37:09 AM
Governments already control enough in peoples lives. If they tried to implement something like this, they might push their citizens to revolt. Probably not in their best interest.

Casinos have to follow the rules that apply to their licenses, but I think if a certificate was required that even casinos would push back knowing it will cause then bankruptcy.
That is where exactly casinos will end, they will just stop their operation seeing gamblers will face a difficult time before they can play and gamble. Though it’s hard for gamblers, but I think the situation will be more worst on the part of gambling casinos as they can never maximize their profits since gamblers are highly restricted to gamble. And probably, the government will also not like the idea as they can never make good commission from gambling businesses.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: swogerino on April 10, 2023, 07:39:51 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

It does not make sense as it is restriction of freedom of choice in most western developed countries.People are free to choose what they do with their own money and even if they lose huge amounts of money it is still their own responsibility and not the responsibility of the government.Most casinos have already implemented self exclusion policies for a certain amount of time and some even the extreme case of banning yourself forever if you feel like that.Governments have enough of problems on their own to tackle that to implement these type of certificates sounds like impossible in these countries.There are a few countries which are trying to tackle gambling by banning any gambling word in their domain like any website with "bet" word there to be not accessible but even this is not working out.

In the end it is only the sole responsibility of the gambler that in most case they can realize they are addicted and they to ask for professional help,there is no other choice.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: kamvreto on April 10, 2023, 07:57:21 AM
If this is implemented, then where will you get a certificate as a responsible gambler. But it looks too much if you have to use a certificate. this is the world of gambling, KYC that has been implemented at this time is even enough to reduce fraud and money laundering crimes. If you have to provide a certificate, it's like giving all data whatsoever to gambling. It's like participating in a competition or getting into college. Lol


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Pierre 2 on April 10, 2023, 08:12:11 AM
I think people are underestimating methods of our modern society. As you all know banking system has our own data and rate it. Its shared with all banks. (I am talking about my own country Türkiye). Online casinos may develop some system that will rate specific gambling methods of people and it may not be even about consent. They may completely reject you to enter if you don't give consent. They may ask for point threshold to gamble on different games. This is literally possible with current computing systems.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: _act_ on April 10, 2023, 08:26:06 AM
If this is implemented, then where will you get a certificate as a responsible gambler. But it looks too much if you have to use a certificate. this is the world of gambling, KYC that has been implemented at this time is even enough to reduce fraud and money laundering crimes. If you have to provide a certificate, it's like giving all data whatsoever to gambling. It's like participating in a competition or getting into college. Lol
Regulators will look for ways for money laundering not to occur, they will also look for ways gambling will not be in support of terrorism, that is just it, but they do not look for gamblers themselves if talking about their losses. If a gambler likes and sell his house and properties and use it to gamble, lose and get depressed and become nothing again in life, nobody cares, regulators do not care.

This is a good question, but how can this become reality without no privacy at all. Let us say no privacy on KYC gambling sites, but are the regulators ready for this? Maybe one day, but I do not think this is anything to be considered. If a gambler do not discipline himself and avoid irresponsible gambling, he will only face the losses.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Fesatmas on April 10, 2023, 08:28:49 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
The thing that immediately comes to my mind is that it is impossible to happen especially for those with a few users, the first is that the average gambler that I know does not play gambling on one gambling site, they tend to have multiple accounts at various casinos, so at this point I I wonder if it is implemented how to detect it, secondly I think the government doesn't care about that because the most important thing is that the casinos that operate in their country pay taxes to them and the problem of addiction lies in humans or the gamblers themselves so it will be quite difficult to deal with eradicated or resolved if not carried out by the gambler himself.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Rruchi man on April 10, 2023, 09:02:07 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions...
A responsible gambler certificate does not give assurance that a gambler is responsible even if it presented. It is just a printed paper or soft copy document that many people can forge, or were presented to them and earned at a time when they could control their gambling habits.

Many things can happen in a short time that can turn a person who even has a responsible gambler certificate to an irresponsible gambler with a responsible gambler certificate.

A certificate of responsible gambling is simply not sufficient to proof that someone is a responsible gambler to me.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Adbitco on April 10, 2023, 09:10:08 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play

This would be only possible if the government have started issuing certificate to gamblers, as far as i know currently there is no such thing yet although i don't really know if some country already started. Gambling terms doesn't state that and anyone gambling is at his own risk whether they sells their property to gamble or whatever that belongs to them, is a matter of choice.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: bitbollo on April 10, 2023, 09:18:08 AM
it is the industry that regulates itself and pushes for certain laws...  ::)
obviously they have no interest in such kind of regulation, in general who would be the institution or profession that should produce such a certification? with the right contacts or friendship network (or simply by paying a fair amount) it would be easy to have such a certification...


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: coin-investor on April 10, 2023, 10:42:47 AM
This will literally kill the goose that lays a golden egg, the Cryptocurrency casino industry thrives on anonymity and privacy even if it's for specific players it will harm the casinos, they will prefer to play on unregulated casinos just to protect their privacy, and if I'm a casino operator I will protect players that sustain the profit of the casinos.
Casinos have a lot of reminders about playing responsibly and it's not beyond their control if gamblers go beyond their limit.
KYC should only be to trace cheaters not to be used on how we play as a player and our character when playing.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Yamifoud on April 10, 2023, 12:00:56 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
NO, I don't think that casinos will do this to protect their gamblers as it was not their responsibility either but it was our personal responsibility.
Should they need to hassle the gamblers? Okay, let us assume that they will ask that stuff, how they would expect replies instead, expect that gamblers will not use their platform anymore? It also conflicts with their privacy and certainly, they never do that even though they are a responsible gambler, I should not do that as well.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 10, 2023, 12:51:45 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Too much hassle i would say!

I dont think that we would really be going into this point on which certificates would be asked out.You cant really be able to conclude that if someone does have its own cert would justify that they wont get addicted
on the time that they would play on that particular day? There's no way on stopping out addiction once it would be able to shackle you on.

This is where crypto gambling would be even more popular once this would be strictly implemented into fiat casinos.Regulations and restrictions is common.
Whether we do like it or not there's no way on stopping them but at least we do really have options to take.



Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Hirose UK on April 10, 2023, 01:12:35 PM
This will literally kill the goose that lays a golden egg, the Cryptocurrency casino industry thrives on anonymity and privacy even if it's for specific players it will harm the casinos, they will prefer to play on unregulated casinos just to protect their privacy, and if I'm a casino operator I will protect players that sustain the profit of the casinos.
Casinos have a lot of reminders about playing responsibly and it's not beyond their control if gamblers go beyond their limit.
KYC should only be to trace cheaters not to be used on how we play as a player and our character when playing.
Most gamblers really prioritize anonymity and don't want to give their personal data to the casino, so if the casino asks for something like that, the casino runs the big risk of losing more of their customers.
It's better for the casino not to overdo it in providing rules or policies so that gamblers can still feel comfortable when playing.
Of course, many gamblers don't like KYC, especially since this is clearly more difficult for gamblers who want to remain anonymous.
Need to know that whatever the reason is when it comes to being anonymous, it will always be a debate and cannot be easily accepted by gamblers.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: xSkylarx on April 10, 2023, 01:17:11 PM
Its kind of it needs a lot of effort to an gambler to get this so that they can play I mean it is good because it can make a gambler quit but this also lead to a lot of gamblers will quit meaning there are only few gamblers will gamble which also lead to low income to casino and their taxes would be lower also. What is really best is to strict the feature in casino like preventing them to spend more it is like responsible gambling but it is more stricter and with the AI right now it can help also analyze those problematic gamblers.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Lucius on April 10, 2023, 01:23:56 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
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The authorities know very well that they should stick to those old methods that go back thousands of years and which enable them to keep people under control - panem et circenses or as they would say today "bread and circuses". In other words, people must not be hungry, and on the other hand, they should be allowed to play with their money, even if it means that some of them will become addicted to it to the extent that it will become a real problem.

After all, such a certificate would be almost meaningless, because not only would it be easy to forge it, but it would also be extremely complicated to verify every player. As for every casino and any other game of chance, it is enough to warn players to play responsibly, and that playing can be addictive. Everything else is a matter of personal choice.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Botnake on April 10, 2023, 01:26:21 PM
I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.
If they will start digging in with our private finances so they will know if we’re responsible or not, I guess that is already being disrespectful to our individual’s privacy and rights. And definitely, people will not allow that to happen. They will just chose not to gamble at all than to give up their privacy to any third party. However, I don’t think this is near to reality. Casinos will never love the idea for sure as it will only limit their players and most importantly their profits.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: iv4n on April 10, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
My opinion is that it is practically impossible to happen in free countries.
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I will dare to say that it's even theoretically impossible for this to happen, in free countries or not. A certificate about gambling responsibility sounds ridiculous in my opinion, doesn't matter from which side we are looking at it.

What Germans did not so long time ago (I can't remember exactly when) is probably what we can expect to see in some other countries:

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These are the restrictions applicable to players while gambling in Germany: €1,000 monthly deposit limit. €1 stake limit on online casino slots. No Live Casino Games or progressive Jackpot-Slots are permitted.

Would be nice to see how this work in reality, maybe some people from Germany will share their experience with us...


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Fiatless on April 10, 2023, 02:00:02 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Any country that will enact this certificate policy will lose a lot of revenue and investment opportunities. Gambling firms will avoid the country because they will not have many customers.

This certificate will require KYC and many people are always scared by these policies.

Getting a certificate might also attract some costs that would be paid by gamblers. People might have to undergo some expensive tests to check if they are addicts or not.

It can also be time-consuming and cumbersome to acquire.

This policy can also give rise to an increase in illegal and unregistered gambling because people that want to invade these restrictions will patronize more risky gambling firms.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: molsewid on April 10, 2023, 02:13:57 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Hmmm it's nearly impossible mate, take for an example most of the gambling site now are implementing KYC but most of the players doesn't want it how much more if they will force to provide that certificate, it will be against the purpose of crypto if it will be needed to upload or attached it. The purpose of the idea is good but it is hard to implement and many people will disagree.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Yogee on April 10, 2023, 02:14:10 PM
[....]The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
An agency would be tasked to grant a person a certificate to gamble because they don't want that same person to lose too much money from betting? This sounds counterintuitive don't you think? They can just stop issuing those papers if they are really concern about people's well-being but that would also mean potentially losing source of Government funds.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 10, 2023, 03:11:36 PM
To get a certificate to prove if you're a responsible gambler, obviously there's should a test to gamble. Do you think an addict can't learn and act like a responsible gambler? when many people already know the loophole, it's useless to get a certificate.

You can't stop an addict to gamble, let alone an addict want to gamble even though it will ruin his life and probably his family too. There's always a way an addict to keep gamble even though you've try to limit or restrict his activity.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: YOSHIE on April 10, 2023, 03:36:47 PM
What about the state / government that prohibits the gambling industry, but gambling sites can still be accessed and played by gambling addicts.
Are they going to issue the certificate……! Maybe not, meaning they are supporting the gambling industry all the same.

I think this reason, it shouldn't be, is hinted at for gambling addicts to have a certificate.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

My understanding is that whatever the government is doing for its citizens to prevent/reduce things like you said, certificates are not a reason or an obstacle for addicts to stop their gambling activities.
We have and read of countries that prohibit gambling for their citizens, with super strict laws and rules, including gambling websites, but still, those who are addicted hide and carry out their gambling activities, meaning: a certificate is not a guarantee for bettors to lose their wealth and engage in gambling activities.

Of course, it's okay for online casinos to ask for certificates from visitors who want to bet in their gambling, but certificates are not the reason to solve all problems for gambling addicts, rehabilitation is the final solution.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 10, 2023, 03:40:57 PM
If that were the case, maybe I would stop gambling at that casino and look for more casinos that didn't require users to upload a responsible gambler's certificate. Not all countries will issue a responsible gambler certificate. They may wonder what the certificate is for and they may investigate your bank account to find out or trace the use of your money from your bank account.

It's good and makes sense but it can't be applied to all users because of limitations within the government itself. But whatever it is, it looks like the government will work on it so they can monitor its citizens who often play gambling.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: 348Judah on April 10, 2023, 03:46:09 PM
There's nothing beyond possibility in gambling, if today we can have an online crypto casino then tomorrow there might be something new to come up whereby gamblers will be required a certification but on a real sense this may also nit be possible for now since most of the gamblers now want a zero tolerance to kyc casinos, so requesting for certification in gambling may also be a frustration in some cases.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 10, 2023, 04:18:50 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I do not see this as a good idea. If anything its just adding on to the trade of security for freedom. I do not want to live in China, therefore I would rather take the risks but at least not be controlled like an animal.

From the perspective of the government, their main objective is to gain as much money from casino taxes as they can. As far as the gamblers go, they really do not care about who is healthy and who's life has been ruined. Government is like a giant business. And giant businesses do not care about their workers.

If the gamblers want to remain healthy and wealthy, they need to make sure to impose upon the government themselves, or better yet, they need to protect themselves individually.

Your idea might be good if it was changed a bit: there should be KYC licenses issued by the government so that we do not have to hand over our personal documents to each and every casino.



Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: sunsilk on April 10, 2023, 06:52:16 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Being a responsible gambler won't manifest by just signing a deal or agreement or by just showing a certificate. These can be faked and it's not the responsibility of the casino to do that. And for every gambler, each their own must be responsible of their own actions.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Some government won't think of this because they benefit from the taxes that they collect from the casinos and some even are relying into this business as their main source of country's income.

They may set some boundaries and reminders but, they cannot hold the minds of every gambler and they'll just obliged to such policies just for them to keep gambling even if they're irresponsible gamblers.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 10, 2023, 06:59:18 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Being a responsible gambler won't manifest by just signing a deal or agreement or by just showing a certificate. These can be faked and it's not the responsibility of the casino to do that. And for every gambler, each their own must be responsible of their own actions.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Some government won't think of this because they benefit from the taxes that they collect from the casinos and some even are relying into this business as their main source of country's income.

They may set some boundaries and reminders but, they cannot hold the minds of every gambler and they'll just obliged to such policies just for them to keep gambling even if they're irresponsible gamblers.

in addition, if the casino or bookie starts requiring this doc from their players - it means they are licensed also as definitely, you need to put your real name on the doc unless they will accept your username that you can sign off. and that's not gonna happen.
this requirement is a possibility for a licensed gambling site. but doubt if a non-licensed casino will ask for this. but so far, i am not seeing this requirement to be implemented in the next years to come. being a responsible gambler is also very subjective. so this is also hard to assess for the casino. they won't do such task. the task is on the gambler himself, how he will look after for himself.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: bitzizzix on April 10, 2023, 07:05:57 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Hmmm it's nearly impossible mate, take for an example most of the gambling site now are implementing KYC but most of the players doesn't want it how much more if they will force to provide that certificate, it will be against the purpose of crypto if it will be needed to upload or attached it. The purpose of the idea is good but it is hard to implement and many people will disagree.
And to get certified, there has to be a test to be a responsible gambler, which I think will discourage gamblers who have a wide variety of games, and I'm sure many gamblers disagree. Likewise with casinos, because it will reduce their income.
and besides, in this day and age anything can be forged, including the creation of any certificate. Gambling has been around for a long time and to get rid of it or in any way will not be effective.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: sashapan on April 10, 2023, 07:06:57 PM
Well, actually, a certificate from a psychiatrist won't hurt.)  ::)


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Lanatsa on April 10, 2023, 07:56:33 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Hmmm it's nearly impossible mate, take for an example most of the gambling site now are implementing KYC but most of the players doesn't want it how much more if they will force to provide that certificate, it will be against the purpose of crypto if it will be needed to upload or attached it. The purpose of the idea is good but it is hard to implement and many people will disagree.
And to get certified, there has to be a test to be a responsible gambler, which I think will discourage gamblers who have a wide variety of games, and I'm sure many gamblers disagree. Likewise with casinos, because it will reduce their income.
and besides, in this day and age anything can be forged, including the creation of any certificate. Gambling has been around for a long time and to get rid of it or in any way will not be effective.
Being responsible isnt something that you could guarantee even if you do able to get that certificate.Just like on what others been saying on which you cant guarantee that you wouldnt really be that getting

addicted on the time that you do play.This is why there's no way that we could be able to stop on someone to lose because its an inevitable thing.This is why the most important thing or characteristic for a
player or a gambler to have is to accept those losses and never ever make yourself that spend on what you can afford to lose. Dont go beyond borders or limits because this is where
usually people do fall because they do become that desperated.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Slow death on April 10, 2023, 08:11:29 PM
this question of addiction to gambling is something that in many countries the governments take very seriously, there are countries where the government restricts the maximum amount that people can use from their credit cards in casinos, so it would not surprise me that someone years let's see people addicted with cards that show that they have problems with addiction and have to show it at the casino so that the casino guys don't let you play with a lot of money and also don't allow you to play for many hours, I would not criticize this attitude of the government because in my opinion, addiction is something very serious and serious, people might even think that addiction is something light, something that heals quickly

but reality shows that hardly anyone addicted manages to be 100% cured of the addiction to the point of returning to playing normally without getting out of control, maybe it would even be the case to put a certificate for any addicted person who has already left a hospital, the certificate would be to show that in the past the person was addicted but is already cured but should not be accepted in gambling, of course this would be a big problem for the person to get a job, especially in this society that laughs at people when they have an addiction, people treat addicts badly


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Oasisman on April 10, 2023, 08:28:18 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

Why are you even thinking of such things that will cause an inconvenience with the gamblers? That's totally unnecessary.
The government receives enough tax from gambling businesses like casinos, why would you think they will impose a paperwork that would potentially eliminate clients because of such inconvenience.
A paperwork/certificate won't for sure make you a responsible gambler. This would only spark another corruption within the government premise that handles these certificates.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 10, 2023, 08:37:53 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I don't think any form of certification is necessary for identification or whatsoever, on gamblers.... I mean, casino already struggled to get certifications for 'em peeps on publicity etc ...why should the gamblers do the same too?
Secondly, that's not gonna play any sub-conscious role and it'll totally be against this natural phenomenon, Which is LIBERTY. Thirdly, the Govt can't control people's funds more than what they've controlled already; is addiction on a particular stuff supposed to be a public affair? Anyone could handle himself and make his MuCus even more sticky if he wants....non of ya business!

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: crzy on April 10, 2023, 09:26:27 PM
Who will issue the certificate? Is the gambler willing to apply for such certificate just to prove that he is not addict in gambling? I doubt on this one because the government doesn’t care at all as they are more concern about the casinos and their possible profit from then instead of helping those addict gamblers. Casinos itself will also not issue such certificate because they don’t want to lose that gambler and if they became addict, the casinos will still get benefit on that.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Saint-loup on April 10, 2023, 10:09:05 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Unless Curacao, Costa Rica, and other governments of big offshore casino paradises implement it, I don't think it will ever concern many crypto casinos, because they won't impose this kind of requirement to their customers on their own. They are escaping national regulation thanks to the use of cryptocurrencies, they won't take decisions hurting their business just to appear responsible.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Sirait on April 10, 2023, 10:15:29 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
actually in the TOS or privacy policy, the majority of gambling sites have written about it but many players don't want to read it, if you don't want to lose money then don't gamble. if you lose because you don't want to stop playing, then don't blame the casino where you are gambling and say they have cheated you. All gamblers should be aware that what they do while in an online or offline casino is their own responsibility.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 10, 2023, 11:46:09 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Sounds interesting, but I honestly do not think we will ever get to such a stage, simply because, on my own personal opinion, I do see this as important.
First, imagine going to court to obtain such a document, or should I say a warrant, all because you wanna gamble, makes no sense to me sincerely, this will simply means giving the government more power than the already have..

And again, this can not stop gamblers from gambling irresponsibly if they want to, or if they don't watch it, so have to submit such a certificate before gambling is totally of no use, it will also affect casinos negatively because they will definitely lose alot of customers including myself, I will stop gambling completely any day such a certificate becomes mandatory to submit before I am allowed to gamble.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: harizen on April 10, 2023, 11:55:02 PM
And again, this can not stop gamblers from gambling irresponsibly if they want to, or if they don't watch it, so have to submit such a certificate before gambling is totally of no use, it will also affect casinos negatively because they will definitely lose alot of customers including myself, I will stop gambling completely any day such a certificate becomes mandatory to submit before I am allowed to gamble.

And gambling owners won't allow that to happen as it's just removing one of their loyal customers.

The thing here is, we don't even know what tier can be considered a responsible gambler. There are gamblers who are losing big money but are still responsible for their life outside of gambling. What could be the factors to call a gambler responsible?

If that certificate thing will really implement, I'm sure casinos will just grant is easy without searching deeply into the gambler's status.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: goinmerry on April 10, 2023, 11:59:35 PM
I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.

I prefer to have a dissenting opinion because there is really nothing impossible online, thirty years ago no one would have thought that you can play casinos in the comfort of your home but we have hundreds of them right now.
the requirement need not apply to all players but to specific types of players that contribute to being compulsive gamblers there's the possibility of casinos complying because of the license issuer requirements and it should be put in their TOS.
It's not really a good thing but the government and authorities will always have a way, so this is not really a remote scenario, in my opinion, the possibility of anything is always there.

I disagree. Even no one thought 30 years ago that we can play casino at our home, it's always possible to happened. It's different to the concern of yours about certificate since it now involved too much privacy concerns. As I said, I'm sure one thing that will looked at here is the user's financial capability and that means casinos needs to verify where our funds came from.

It will result for some users leaving that casino. I do fine with KYC but if financial documents will be required, that's a total bullshit requirements.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: jrrsparkles on April 11, 2023, 12:57:21 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Casinos won't implement such features and also how they can scale the responsibility of a person from their loss, and someone maybe in loss on a casino on the contrary they made huge money on another casino so in net they are in profits then how come this will work cause its negative for both the parties.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Reatim on April 11, 2023, 02:14:51 AM
I wonder what would be the guidelines for having the certificate? What's the procedure?

If that requires looking for the financial aspects of the user, I doubt that is breaching the gambler's privacy. KYC is now slowly accepting even though others don't want it but looking for much deeper information like salary and financial capability, that is not a good thing already.

Government and casinos will just keep the usual way of reminding people to be responsible in gambling.

I prefer to have a dissenting opinion because there is really nothing impossible online, thirty years ago no one would have thought that you can play casinos in the comfort of your home but we have hundreds of them right now.
the requirement need not apply to all players but to specific types of players that contribute to being compulsive gamblers there's the possibility of casinos complying because of the license issuer requirements and it should be put in their TOS.
It's not really a good thing but the government and authorities will always have a way, so this is not really a remote scenario, in my opinion, the possibility of anything is always there.

I disagree. Even no one thought 30 years ago that we can play casino at our home, it's always possible to happened. It's different to the concern of yours about certificate since it now involved too much privacy concerns. As I said, I'm sure one thing that will looked at here is the user's financial capability and that means casinos needs to verify where our funds came from.

It will result for some users leaving that casino. I do fine with KYC but if financial documents will be required, that's a total bullshit requirements.
and if all casino online come to take us all our privacy ? then we must leave online playing and just go in Local gambling houses or casino houses that obviously we will play in live appearance and there is no need of hiding .
but i doubt that government will implement this because the casino online will soon all close because of no players interested in dealing with such policies .


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: libert19 on April 11, 2023, 03:19:20 AM
I don't see if happening, i'm pretty sure casinos make most of their revenue from addicted gamblers, it would be like a shot in foot.

If a person is addicted gambler and he's supposed to show a certificate to gamble, it would be annoying for him as well. Such requirement will likely make him move on to alternatives such on-chain casinos than curb his addiction.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: lienfaye on April 11, 2023, 04:49:43 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Can this certificate serve as a clear evidence that you're a responsible gambler? What if your behaviour is different when you're already playing? I don't think the casino will implement this kind of rule before one can gamble. It can hurt their business since for casinos, the more gamblers playing and spending their money on their platform, means the more revenue they're getting.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Government can't control the people on where they want to spend their wealth. They can give warning but they can't dictate the people. As long as they're playing on a legal casino, I don't see the point of refraining them to gamble since gamblers are the ones responsible for themselves when already playing.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Pierre 2 on April 11, 2023, 05:40:22 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Can this certificate serve as a clear evidence that you're a responsible gambler? What if your behaviour is different when you're already playing? I don't think the casino will implement this kind of rule before one can gamble. It can hurt their business since for casinos, the more gamblers playing and spending their money on their platform, means the more revenue they're getting.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Government can't control the people on where they want to spend their wealth. They can give warning but they can't dictate the people. As long as they're playing on a legal casino, I don't see the point of refraining them to gamble since gamblers are the ones responsible for themselves when already playing.
I also think that this type of system wouldn't be installed to protect people's wealth. I agree that governments can't and shouldn't influence people s spending decisions. But I assume casinos may prefer this system to see which people can be loyal customers and which people are losers. As you said, even customers may like such system because you may be tagged as "responsible" customer and that may return you extra bonus benefits. I think such system seems attractive enough to enforce and we will hear about in next 5 years.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: btc78 on April 11, 2023, 06:32:46 AM
Not closing the door for this to happen but one thing I will surely do , when times this comes to reality ? I will never play in those casino that implement this and if all of them are? then it is time for me to leave the online gambling and maybe return to my old habits and that is to play cards and some small time gambling in my community.
we even have a time playing and betting in online games in which I am one of the best before(not know now if I am still that good lol)


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: davis196 on April 11, 2023, 06:49:26 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

Even if such certificate would be implemented, I'm sure that it will be faked and many gamblers will successfully bypass it.
The casinos have no incentive at stopping the hardcore gambling addicts from gambling. It doesn't matter that some casinos promote "responsible gambling" and try to describe their business as "responsible". Hypocrisy is a part of the game.
The government could create lists of gambling addicts and each person, who is added to this list has to be forever banned from visiting offline casinos(showing ID card when visiting the casino would be required) and creating accounts at online casinos(ID verification would become mandatory at all online casinos). This would be a way better policy than the implementation of useless certificates.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Mauser on April 11, 2023, 08:06:45 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

That's an interesting idea, but might be very hard to implement. Gambling addiction is a serious problem that only affects a fraction of the gamblers. So for making such a certificate mandatory at the casinos a lot of gamblers who never struggled with the addiction would have to get it. This would be a lot of work and also provides the government with personal information from all the gamblers. I think the major concern most of us have with it is the misuse of our data by the government and a potential data breach that could lead to our data getting in the wrong hands. It also might be a bit hard to proof that you are a responsible gambler. What kind of records do we need to keep from our gambling activities, and for how long? That could accumulate to a lot of data.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: len01 on April 11, 2023, 08:42:54 AM
I don't see if happening, i'm pretty sure casinos make most of their revenue from addicted gamblers, it would be like a shot in foot.

If a person is addicted gambler and he's supposed to show a certificate to gamble, it would be annoying for him as well. Such requirement will likely make him move on to alternatives such on-chain casinos than curb his addiction.
surely there will be many gamblers who leave the gambling because of the certificate issue and they will not only choose on-chain gambling but prefer physical gambling.
however I am also sure that casinos will not implement such regulations because gambling is a business that aims to profit from addicted gamblers. if that happens it's like limiting other people's freedom and very bad.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Helena Yu on April 11, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
It's useless to have such certificate because there are few unlicensed casinos where you can gamble without need to worry about KYC and other verification, so an addict can still gamble in unlicensed casino because he don't have to submit a certificate. I'm not really sure if in the future the casino will implement this kind certificate in able to gamble in their casino, this will make people not favor to gamble due to many rules need to follow and this will decrease the traffic.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: michellee on April 11, 2023, 11:48:48 AM
I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: rahmad2nd on April 11, 2023, 06:02:09 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

To be honest, this is a pretty redundant notion. if so, all countries that legalize gambling implement the idea of ​​a responsible gambler certificate. Then what will happen. Most likely, many gamblers will look for other options or try to find gambling platforms that do not include the requirements like the ideas you posted in this thread. yes, it seems that this idea is too complicated to apply to gamblers, especially for gamblers who have experienced many losses.

Well, as one of our members said. almost impossible to happen, in a country that adheres to a system of freedom. I understand very well, that this idea is very good for gamblers. however, I'm not sure this pattern will be applied by every country. As for the other idea, ideally, with a responsible gambling program. yes, to provide direction for gamblers, both veteran gamblers and new gamblers. a program like this could be implemented, but I'm not sure it will be effective. however as a hint and direction it is better than the ideas you posted in this thread. one of the contents of the program is, providing knowledge of what to watch out for before betting, understanding how gambling works, tips on safe gambling and so on.
IMO, this would be more accepted by society than having a responsible gambler's certificate.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: darewaller on April 11, 2023, 07:48:45 PM
there is always a possibilities because we knew how harder it is for the casino to operate and serve gamblers as the government because restrictions and rules will always be to apply.
But I also believe that Gambling sites don't want this implemented unless being forced.
as I can see the insult towards that gamblers being question while he has his money to risk and play.
this will  only be applied to those who might be borrowing capital but for the capable? i don't think there is a need to comply.
Gambling is not new anymore and back in time, it is already known to be highly addictive but there were no such things as responsible gambler certificate that is being implemented all through the years. Here in crypto gambling, there is only a KYC which people did not expect as well because cryptos are supposed to be decentralized.

This alone is already enough for us. We don't want more hassle but if let say a responsible gambler certificate is also required, I think that will be the time that gamblers are going to quit gambling for real and this will badly affect the gambling industry. I think the gambling sectors have already think of it in advance and maybe that is the reason on why they did not continue with this idea.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: BitcoinPanther on April 11, 2023, 08:32:48 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.


Casino is a business, so if there is no need or regulation to ask player of Respnsible Gambling certificate then they will not ask it.  Besides, the government or the licensing office will have a hard time determining people whether they are responsible gambler or not.  If they present the evaluation with question, then it can be easily cheated by lying on the answers.  So I think that it is impossible for the casino to have such requirement.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I do not think the government will implement such kind of regulation.  If the government do then it will greatly affect the gambling business in a negative way.  And the government don't like their tax income hindered, do they?


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: TimeTeller on April 11, 2023, 09:16:54 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

Casino is a business, so if there is no need or regulation to ask player of Respnsible Gambling certificate then they will not ask it.  Besides, the government or the licensing office will have a hard time determining people whether they are responsible gambler or not.  If they present the evaluation with question, then it can be easily cheated by lying on the answers.  So I think that it is impossible for the casino to have such requirement.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I do not think the government will implement such kind of regulation.  If the government do then it will greatly affect the gambling business in a negative way.  And the government don't like their tax income hindered, do they?

This particular aspect is very subjective and also, there's no point in implementing it as users can give a different answer to satisfy such requirement.
It will just be another non-sense requirement if in case casinos will start asking from their players.
Unless, the government will mandate these licensed casinos to require this document from its players.
But for now, I am not seeing this as beneficial for both sides, just another unnecessary document to scare away players.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: milewilda on April 11, 2023, 09:20:22 PM
It's useless to have such certificate because there are few unlicensed casinos where you can gamble without need to worry about KYC and other verification, so an addict can still gamble in unlicensed casino because he don't have to submit a certificate. I'm not really sure if in the future the casino will implement this kind certificate in able to gamble in their casino, this will make people not favor to gamble due to many rules need to follow and this will decrease the traffic.
People would be finding out places on which they would be able to avoid up these compliance or giving or showing certificate on a certain gambling platform plus isnt a bit heavy or too much when a certain business would really be asking for this kind of additional required things on the time that they would be tending to play on a site? Its true that its not really that compulsory on sending or complying out because there are places
which arent regulated which means that everyone could really be taking such option and would be playing on those place without hassling themselves on such thing about having those shit certificates.
It isnt also a solid thing that would be telling that a certain person wasnt addicted.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Cling18 on April 11, 2023, 09:21:18 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.

Casino is a business, so if there is no need or regulation to ask player of Respnsible Gambling certificate then they will not ask it.  Besides, the government or the licensing office will have a hard time determining people whether they are responsible gambler or not.  If they present the evaluation with question, then it can be easily cheated by lying on the answers.  So I think that it is impossible for the casino to have such requirement.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I do not think the government will implement such kind of regulation.  If the government do then it will greatly negatively affect the gambling business.  And the government doesn't like their tax income hindered, do they?

This particular aspect is very subjective and also, there's no point in implementing it as users can give a different answer to satisfy such requirement.


Players will not exert an effort to provide such a certificate in the future unless all casinos will implement it because if a single casino will do it, gamblers will just look for other casinos with lighter regulations. I also don't get the sense of asking for such a document because KYC would be enough and no one has to show off any proof that they're responsible gamblers.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Vaculin on April 11, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I guess if that will be implemented in the future, I bet this is the beginning of casinos bankruptcy because if most of the gamblers will be discover that they are addicted to gambling, then they will not be allowed to gamble, thus creating less profits on the casinos. And since the government is also making quite a good income from casinos, then they will also lost it since the casinos are no longer profiting. So I don’t think the government will adopt it.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: sunsilk on April 11, 2023, 10:33:51 PM
Some government won't think of this because they benefit from the taxes that they collect from the casinos and some even are relying into this business as their main source of country's income.

They may set some boundaries and reminders but, they cannot hold the minds of every gambler and they'll just obliged to such policies just for them to keep gambling even if they're irresponsible gamblers.

in addition, if the casino or bookie starts requiring this doc from their players - it means they are licensed also as definitely, you need to put your real name on the doc unless they will accept your username that you can sign off. and that's not gonna happen.
this requirement is a possibility for a licensed gambling site. but doubt if a non-licensed casino will ask for this. but so far, i am not seeing this requirement to be implemented in the next years to come. being a responsible gambler is also very subjective. so this is also hard to assess for the casino. they won't do such task. the task is on the gambler himself, how he will look after for himself.
I think there's no problem if you'll use your username upon signing in/off. That's normal for most websites and since you've passed on that document, they're aware that's you and you're on their record already. Yeah, it's possible for this requirement to be in a licensed casino.

But to those that are not yet licensed or don't have plans to get one, they wouldn't require such but then, it's funny to think of this requirement for most gamblers just to prove that we're responsible because being responsible can't be drafted to a piece of paper unless being seen and witnessed.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 11, 2023, 10:45:26 PM
It's actually gonna get really wierd, honestly...
Majority of peeps don't even want to pass through some form of discomfort or stress -sort of., So they'll really make a nice choice by registering on casinos that don't operate under this jurisdiction.
Secondly, they'll certainly be much illegal casinos popping up from left, right and centre... thirdly, they govt are just bound to face more money laundering cases than the usual.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Finestream on April 11, 2023, 10:50:02 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
It’s not the concern anymore of the government since the gambler itself should be most aware on how to avoid huge losses from gambling and to stay away from gambling addiction. If he’s not a responsible one, then he might only go broke from gambling and might regret it later on. However, on the part of asking certificate, if this will be true in the future, I would say gambling casinos will never gain the same profits as it is now. If most gamblers will be restricted from gambling, then maybe it’s the best time to shut down gambling casinos than to suffer bankruptcy in the long run.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: alegotardo on April 11, 2023, 11:05:57 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

I doubt that will happen.

First, people are free to play and spend their money however they think is best. As long as they aren't stealing to fuel their addiction, no one could stop a person from gambling all their money or even creating gambling debts.

Second, because in countries where gambling is regulated, the tax that governments collect is high and the more people betting, the more taxes and "the better for the country".

Third, because websites, like any business, always seek to maximize their profits, regardless of how customers consume their products or services. I've never seen a company ban their customers because they were buying or using their services too much (actually I have, but it was in a bar where someone very drunk could do a lot of damage)


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Yatsan on April 11, 2023, 11:13:05 PM
There's no such thing. First of all, they won't track your losses and winnings as well as your betting habits. Also what would be their basis to tag a gambler responsible? Casinos would only want to have more players on their platform whether you consider yourself as responsible or not, that would be none of their business. People are different with one another; some are just more fond of betting huge amounts because they fan simply endure the consequence. However, there are those who are simply not playing with a sense of responsibility with their funds but still, that would be a gambler's personal issue and no one would mind to interfere with that. Casinos in the first place won't be sued for players who are losing that much, they just provide the platform.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 12, 2023, 01:52:50 PM
I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.
I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: alastantiger on April 12, 2023, 06:53:03 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
This is one thing that is impossible for online casino.
Casino's can't  control who want to gamble and who dont want to gamble, responsible or irresponsible. Even the addicted gambler will claim a responsible gambler because he want to gamble. Who looses his wealth or health as a result of gambling addiction is not casino's issues.
For instance in the case of a drunkered, the seller will never stop selling alcohol to a drunkerd as long as he pays for his alcohol. In the case of online casino, they can't predict who is an addict or who has lost his wealth as a reault of gambling addiction.
So for an online casino to upload a responsible gambler certificate before continue gambling is almost impossible.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: jostorres on April 12, 2023, 07:22:30 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I wonder why would a casino be interested in implementing something like that knowing this will only cause them fewer profits if gamblers that wager and lose a lot are probably a big part of why their businesses are still profitable. Casinos like gamblers that wager a lot and lose, not the ones that wager big but don't lose a lot to them.

Governments will never go that far only to protect the wealth or health of their people, if they were really that much concerned, they would definitely first clear every single thing that can be harmful to people within their countries, but they never do much about that too.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Lanatsa on April 12, 2023, 10:44:04 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I wonder why would a casino be interested in implementing something like that knowing this will only cause them fewer profits if gamblers that wager and lose a lot are probably a big part of why their businesses are still profitable. Casinos like gamblers that wager a lot and lose, not the ones that wager big but don't lose a lot to them.

Governments will never go that far only to protect the wealth or health of their people, if they were really that much concerned, they would definitely first clear every single thing that can be harmful to people within their countries, but they never do much about that too.
Even if they do, there are really problems which are really that in global scale which is something that could be resolved out easily or does really need that huge funding support or allocation or
it does really need up that crucial things which they cant be able to handle it out and ending up on just letting those problems to be existing because they cant just do nothing with it.
This is why it would really be depending on the situation because there are things which government do really take it far when it comes to decisions and rules
which we know that it does have its pros and cons too.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Stedsm on April 12, 2023, 11:22:38 PM
If casinos ever do that, it would be like inviting problems to harm oneself (its reputation and image here) as till today, we have heard great as well as sad stories of gamblers winning and losing huge. Gamblers who have lost huge in numbers were never asked to gamble at the casinos they gambled away their money at (no casino personally asks you to come and play there, all they do is marketing stuff and promotional emails based on your agreed consent, that's it), so why would they ask you for a certificate to prove that you're a responsible gambler? Won't this impede the casinos' business overall?

If and only if, the regulatory body wants casinos to do that in order to prevent bigger losses to people, losses which could make exceptional differences to their personal life, then the casinos may ever do that but that's never going to happen. It's like asking a 25 year old chain smoker (smoking since 15 years of age) to prove that his lungs are fit and that he can easily inhale/exhale the nicotine that's released inside the body every single time he smokes.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: passwordnow on April 12, 2023, 11:43:33 PM
Maybe aside from that, they'll also ask you for an interview before able to deposit and that's like going to happen during the registration. These casinos understand that the more they ask a lot of things from their customers, the more that they're pushing away that money from them.
That's why it's important to get along what's the demand is asking them and not to ask customers more that aren't really needed unless it's an actual information that the regulators want them to have.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: lizarder on April 12, 2023, 11:54:34 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
Casinos facilitate gambling and they do not require a certificate to show responsible gambling. They run a business in the Casino and they never care how much money you spend on gambling, because they run a business not open donations.

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
There are many countries that try to block Gambling sites and that doesn't stop Casinos from operating in those countries. The reason the state tries to protect people from losing a lot of money due to addiction makes no sense at all, gambling has been going on for so long in human life, it's just that now there are many platforms that make it easier for people to play gambling.

This is not the right solution and for the case of gamblers it will be very difficult to regulate, if they don't take advantage of gambling through casinos, gamblers will still gamble in the traditional way. If the reason is as you mentioned, then more precisely what can control the gambler is the individual gambler.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: ralle14 on April 13, 2023, 12:49:31 AM
Maybe aside from that, they'll also ask you for an interview before able to deposit and that's like going to happen during the registration. These casinos understand that the more they ask a lot of things from their customers, the more that they're pushing away that money from them.
That's why it's important to get along what's the demand is asking them and not to ask customers more that aren't really needed unless it's an actual information that the regulators want them to have.
That's true when there's a casino that has stricter requirements then those gamblers would just simply switch to another that requires less as it's unlikely for every casino to have the same requirements when they're based in different countries.

There would still be gamblers that are willing to follow those requirements but the downside for the affected casinos might be too much and in exchange, it's going to limit their operations.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: DevilSlayer on April 13, 2023, 01:39:58 AM
I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.
I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.
I'm really sure that they fully understand the game of gtheir industry wherein they will cause a lot of pain, heartbreaks, defeat, sorrow and a lot of regrets to the majority of their customer and clients. There is a casino edge for a reason, it is to make sure that they keep earning even if someone hit the jackpot and other big prizes. The job of the casino is to extract money from their clients and customers so they do not have any reason for them to ask certificate if you are a responsible gambler or not. You are the one who will decide if you can handle your emotion, take risks, handle expectation and also understanding that the gambling is about probabilities.

I saw a lot of gamblers who blame the casino after they lose huge money in gambling without fully knowing that the reason why they lose is because of his mindset, expectation, skills and alo experienced. The professional and successful gambler understand that gambling psychology plays a very huge factor and it is one of the key for gambling success. You are the one who will take responsibility of for your success, what you do today will have a big impact on your future.



Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: btc78 on April 13, 2023, 03:30:49 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
It’s not the concern anymore of the government since the gambler itself should be most aware on how to avoid huge losses from gambling and to stay away from gambling addiction. If he’s not a responsible one, then he might only go broke from gambling and might regret it later on. However, on the part of asking certificate, if this will be true in the future, I would say gambling casinos will never gain the same profits as it is now. If most gamblers will be restricted from gambling, then maybe it’s the best time to shut down gambling casinos than to suffer bankruptcy in the long run.
But if Government will show some concern about gamblers(of course just to pretend but the truth is they want to run against casino sites) then asking this will happen eventually , and as government knew how much money flowing from gambling businesses , then the thing is that  will do everything just to take some part of the cake and having this will soon be alarmed gamblers.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Silberman on April 13, 2023, 03:31:03 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
I do not see it happening, once people are recognized by the law as adults they can do whatever they want with their money, if it was us we would never spend the amount of money those which are addicted spend on keeping their addictions going, but it is their decision, the moment you begin to tell people how they can spend the money they earned you are crossing a very dangerous line, something that we are already seeing at China and which I do not think free countries should emulate.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: rodskee on April 13, 2023, 03:49:54 AM
I Am a fan of Online casino but I love more playing in regular/live casino so I don't have problem with this because once time happens that this needs to be on process then I have no problem going back to my first love and that is to play in casino houses , though it will take some time to come but at least i can do this twice a year and go with my gambling activities.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Crypt0Gore on April 13, 2023, 09:07:09 AM
I remember when I was just a child, my parent used to talk about some people living close by that got their lives destroyed by gambling away their life savings, the government is not responsible for this and it's never the government's responsibility to tell people how to spend their money, that's slavery if it happens.

Gamble responsibly, is something many people failed to understand, this becomes addicting very fast if care is not taken but if you can gamble with what you can afford to lose you will always be fine.

Those that got their lives ruined by gambling took it too far, they got greedy and lost everything, if the government is controlling how people spend their money it's no more a free world.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Weawant on April 13, 2023, 09:52:41 AM
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

The government would never do that, they act like the care while they don't, those casinos will lose customers if this get implemented and that'll be bad for business, if there's no business then the government don't get paid.

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: SirLancelot on April 13, 2023, 10:29:30 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
This is one thing that is impossible for online casino.
Casino's can't  control who want to gamble and who dont want to gamble, responsible or irresponsible. Even the addicted gambler will claim a responsible gambler because he want to gamble. Who looses his wealth or health as a result of gambling addiction is not casino's issues.
For instance in the case of a drunkered, the seller will never stop selling alcohol to a drunkerd as long as he pays for his alcohol. In the case of online casino, they can't predict who is an addict or who has lost his wealth as a reault of gambling addiction.
So for an online casino to upload a responsible gambler certificate before continue gambling is almost impossible.
The harsh reality is, that a person who is addicted to something will find a way to do that no matter what, whether you restrict them, or do whatever you want to prevent them from doing that, but there will be a place or a person that they will find to fulfill the needs of their addiction because it is something that one cannot control.

Even if most casinos apply something like that, there will always be a platform that will allow everyone to gamble, and after such a scenario, such a casino will earn a lot of profits and get a lot of customers that will be restricted from other platforms.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: michellee on April 13, 2023, 10:29:37 AM
I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.
I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.
The casino obviously wouldn't really care about someone who had experienced a loss and the casino would probably argue that the casino has made it clear what the rules are in their casino. Casinos would reason that if users could manage their money to gamble, they wouldn't have that bad experience and could even enjoy it.

But the casino should investigate the case first to find out the facts that happened. Thus, the casino can announce it to the public and investigate for more information. But asking gamblers to upload responsible gambler certificates is not always the answer to gambling addiction problems. People addicted to gambling can play at other casinos if the casino or the government blocks their casino account.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: lizarder on April 13, 2023, 07:01:06 PM
The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.
I don't think it's an implementation that will limit gamblers to get involved, Casino runs a business and they never care how much user's money will run out, certificates as OP described also won't work to limit number of gamblers and level of restriction government also can't afford to play much bigger role.

Active gamblers have several criteria before playing and most of the addicted people are more difficult to control themselves and even though the state tries to block some Casino sites. The problem is not government certificates or bans, but gambling has been going on for decades long before online casinos began to develop.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: passwordnow on April 13, 2023, 10:32:36 PM
Maybe aside from that, they'll also ask you for an interview before able to deposit and that's like going to happen during the registration. These casinos understand that the more they ask a lot of things from their customers, the more that they're pushing away that money from them.
That's why it's important to get along what's the demand is asking them and not to ask customers more that aren't really needed unless it's an actual information that the regulators want them to have.
That's true when there's a casino that has stricter requirements then those gamblers would just simply switch to another that requires less as it's unlikely for every casino to have the same requirements when they're based in different countries.

There would still be gamblers that are willing to follow those requirements but the downside for the affected casinos might be too much and in exchange, it's going to limit their operations.
Yeah, if there's an option why would the gamblers stay on that strict casino that's why it being asked many times in the forum about being required to comply with the KYC process. And with all of these requirements and stuff, this certificate is just going to be another obstacle for many gamblers and it's kind of annoying for some because there's this self validation that needs to be done and many of us don't like to be figured out like that as we know ourselves better.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: dezoel on April 14, 2023, 06:36:51 PM
The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.
I don't think it's an implementation that will limit gamblers to get involved, Casino runs a business and they never care how much user's money will run out, certificates as OP described also won't work to limit number of gamblers and level of restriction government also can't afford to play much bigger role.

Active gamblers have several criteria before playing and most of the addicted people are more difficult to control themselves and even though the state tries to block some Casino sites. The problem is not government certificates or bans, but gambling has been going on for decades long before online casinos began to develop.
No government or casino can stop someone with an addiction stops gambling no matter how hard they try, besides, casinos will basically not opt-in for such a policy knowing this will only cause them loss in their business as most of the revenue that they make come from people who are addicted of gambling and can't resist the urge to gamble.

A platform will basically lose a lot of its customers if they start asking for certificates of that kind all of a sudden, and that isn't something they would want to happen unless the governments force them to do so in which case they won't have a choice, but addicted gamblers will still find a way to gamble.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: lizarder on April 14, 2023, 07:17:48 PM
No government or casino can stop someone with an addiction stops gambling no matter how hard they try, besides, casinos will basically not opt-in for such a policy knowing this will only cause them loss in their business as most of the revenue that they make come from people who are addicted of gambling and can't resist the urge to gamble.

A platform will basically lose a lot of its customers if they start asking for certificates of that kind all of a sudden, and that isn't something they would want to happen unless the governments force them to do so in which case they won't have a choice, but addicted gamblers will still find a way to gamble.
That's why I said it's not the right move to ask for a certificate to mark responsible gamblers, if they realize that gambling can make them worse, then what should be done is stop gambling and no one is forcing people to gamble. Gambling has been going on for decades, it's just that the patterns of gambling games are now more sophisticated than ever, so any excuse won't stop gamblers.

They are running a business in a Casino and asking for conditions that will unnecessarily burden the gambler, so they will decide to look for another Casino or will gamble according to traditional patterns, in a relationship doing business would be against the wishes of the OP and the Government also may not necessarily see this as a solution.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Russlenat on April 14, 2023, 09:58:16 PM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.
Just face the reality that not all the times the government can protect their people, especially in cases like gambling where it has already existed decades ago. That’s why I don’t see this happening in the future. What the government can do is to keep reminding the people to be responsible in all their actions and decisions, just like in gambling, if they can’t see theirselves managing the addiction later on, then it’s better not to engage in it in the first place. If they won’t listen, then I guess it’s not a loss of the government but the gamblers themselves.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: livingfree on April 14, 2023, 11:37:46 PM
Just face the reality that not all the times the government can protect their people, especially in cases like gambling where it has already existed decades ago. That’s why I don’t see this happening in the future. What the government can do is to keep reminding the people to be responsible in all their actions and decisions, just like in gambling, if they can’t see theirselves managing the addiction later on, then it’s better not to engage in it in the first place. If they won’t listen, then I guess it’s not a loss of the government but the gamblers themselves.
That's the best option for them and just to make every one be reminded about being responsible when they gamble.

They can't stop or force them to do so because it's all in the books that everyone is free to do whatever they want to do especially in countries that have freedom.

Governments can add some additional requirements but I guess that this is too much for them to consider or not that going to have an impact at all. Because with these certificates, someone can still lie.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Casdinyard on April 14, 2023, 11:56:10 PM
Yeah. I believe so, the industry's riddled with irresponsible gamblers and by those who are just 2 big losses straight to gambling addiction land, so a form of a proof l, if such would be mecessary or be implemented in the future, will be asked of the gambler before they can even start with the gambling. Of thos is done to the entire gambling industry, it will definitely deter everyone who's at the verge of gambling addiction.


On the other hand though, this is money we're talking about. So there is a good chance the casinos will not implement it, what do they care about the gambling addicts anyway


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: danherbias07 on April 15, 2023, 04:20:07 AM
I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: dezoel on April 15, 2023, 05:40:04 AM
if there's an option why would the gamblers stay on that strict casino that's why it being asked many times in the forum about being required to comply with the KYC process. And with all of these requirements and stuff, this certificate is just going to be another obstacle for many gamblers and it's kind of annoying for some because there's this self validation that needs to be done and many of us don't like to be figured out like that as we know ourselves better.
Casinos that have a lot of players and are at the top will probably do their best to avoid having such a restriction even if the authorities try to force it on them, because they understand how critical this can be to the platform knowing a lot of gamblers will simply switch to another competitive platform and they will slowly start losing business.

Players who don't wish to comply with the rule of providing a responsible gambling certificate will start finding alternatives as soon as their favorite casinos makes the announcement about the new rule. That will be a nightmare for casino business, literally.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: len01 on April 15, 2023, 02:05:50 PM
I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.
for sure there will be a lot of casinos that are closed. I mean if such a certificate is assigned to the casino there will be many gamblers who stop gambling at online casinos which makes it uncomfortable when the anonymity has to be given by the casino just for the sake of gambling.
I agree with your statement that even KYC at this time seems to have burdened gamblers which makes it a little uncomfortable and if that happens, many gamblers will retire.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: uneng on April 15, 2023, 02:19:15 PM
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

The government would never do that, they act like the care while they don't, those casinos will lose customers if this get implemented and that'll be bad for business, if there's no business then the government don't get paid.

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.
I think it depends on the government we are talking about. Keep in mind the more centralized a government is, more bureaucracy and regulations they like creating and enforcing, because after all, it generates more jobs' spots for new regulators on the public administration, what allow the government to employ their campaign's supporters (working as a reward for the support and votes received to win the polls).

The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: coin-investor on April 15, 2023, 03:08:03 PM


The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.

At this point in time, we never know and I maintain that casinos will not agree that this will become part of their requirement, especially for high rollers, but if the data of gamblers ruining their lives because of too much addiction the government might require casino operators to ask their players to upload a certificate that they are a responsible gamble maybe from a government institution set up by the government to check if you are a compulsive gambler.
When it comes to gambling it's a personal matter, it's the family's responsibility to check their loved one's level of addiction to gambling.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: virasisog on April 15, 2023, 03:48:53 PM


The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.

At this point in time, we never know and I maintain that casinos will not agree that this will become part of their requirement, especially for high rollers, but if the data of gamblers ruining their lives because of too much addiction the government might require casino operators to ask their players to upload a certificate that they are a responsible gamble maybe from a government institution set up by the government to check if you are a compulsive gambler.
When it comes to gambling it's a personal matter, it's the family's responsibility to check their loved one's level of addiction to gambling.

It's a good way to control gambling addiction so I think it's possie but I don't think players will agree to it. Many gamblers actually hate KYC so what more if casinos will require to go deeper to ask for certificates just to check things about their gambling journey?
I don't think the government would also focus on it because their main focus is to tax gambling and not to totally eliminate gambling addiction. It's true that gambling addiction is a personal matter and it's something that should be solved personally. 


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: roslinpl on April 15, 2023, 08:20:25 PM
The casino sites should have the certificate to prove their are not the scammer. Mainly the online casino should need of casino certification, because many scam casinos was introduced now. People with certain money and had a cheap designer for the gambling site will start the casino on their own. They will not have huge bank balance to pay the winner, we should find them by do the background verification of every site. We also check the wagering of the casino sites. The casino owner can add their certificate home page to show they are not the scammer. In many countries, the casino is not the trusted one. For that country the casino may allow user to use of VPN to use their website.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 15, 2023, 08:40:22 PM
I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.
^Definitely right and I agree, so for what they will ask certificate as a responsible gambler, people nowadays as much as they can avoid KYC will do this, it seems like, they don't have any other option to face KYC gambling casino. Business is business here for a gambling casino, they don't want also to lose their players. If that certificate will be implemented, it will surely reduce players and transfer to their convenient way of use. The competition in the gambling business now is very rampant, so people choose a better one.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: QueenVera on April 15, 2023, 08:42:52 PM
I really wouldn't get surprised if casinos get to to ask for certificate to prove that a gambler is responsible before allowed to gamble because just as we all know that nothing is guaranteed in gambling and anything can happen.

But I was also thinking about the possibilities of a casino asking for documents begire allowing anyone to wager on their platform and I couldn't stop but laugh because the government is just trying so hard to fustrate the effort of its citizens just to be in control of their activities because in my country it seems the government doesn't want to see it's citizens progress hence they want to be in charge of all they do.
Thank you op for this imagination and I hope the government doesn't make any attempt to privatize the gambling industry.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Johnyz on April 15, 2023, 08:52:20 PM
Casinos will never ask for this or else gamblers will go to other site and play with them, if you will restrict your players thar much, don’t expect them to stay with your site. Casinos though have to help those people who are already suffering with gambling addiction, I hope they focus more on being a responsible casinos than focusing on their profit. Remember the more healthy gamblers, the more profit for them.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: maydna on April 15, 2023, 10:50:46 PM
Casinos will never ask for this or else gamblers will go to other site and play with them, if you will restrict your players thar much, don’t expect them to stay with your site. Casinos though have to help those people who are already suffering with gambling addiction, I hope they focus more on being a responsible casinos than focusing on their profit. Remember the more healthy gamblers, the more profit for them.
But casinos have warned gamblers who come to their casinos to always gamble responsibly with their money and not gamble excessively. And the casino cannot go too far because it is up to each gambler and the casino also considers gamblers to be people who can care for themselves while playing gambling. But if those people are already gambling addicts, the casino can't do anything because it's beyond their responsibility. And those people have to try to cure their gambling addiction with the help of the people around them.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: PX-Z on April 15, 2023, 11:54:10 PM
Uploading such file "responsible gambler certificate" before playing on gambling platforms won't help problematic gamblers to gamble because "government is trying to protect the users' wealth". Certs can be forged, faked, etc.
There is no cure for addiction, remember that, it's someone's sole responsibility to do avoid, stop and be responsible in anything they should do even not in gambling, as long it is considered as addiction.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Silberman on April 16, 2023, 03:07:16 AM
Uploading such file "responsible gambler certificate" before playing on gambling platforms won't help problematic gamblers to gamble because "government is trying to protect the users' wealth". Certs can be forged, faked, etc.
There is no cure for addiction, remember that, it's someone's sole responsibility to do avoid, stop and be responsible in anything they should do even not in gambling, as long it is considered as addiction.
This is a difficult thing to accept for some people as they believe that we can do everything including protecting people from themselves, but this is false, at some point people need to take responsibility for their actions and start to own up their mistakes instead of simply blaming society and everyone they can point their finger for what happens to them, the majority of gamblers can gamble responsibly and if there are a few people out there which cannot do this then they need to look for help instead of forcing everyone else to get a useless certificate.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: lienfaye on April 16, 2023, 07:04:57 AM
Uploading such file "responsible gambler certificate" before playing on gambling platforms won't help problematic gamblers to gamble because "government is trying to protect the users' wealth". Certs can be forged, faked, etc.
Exactly. What's the point of having this certificate if it can be fake of someone who's eager to gamble despite of not being a responsible gambler when already playing. Moreover if you're a casino owner, do you want to limit your gamblers because he's playing excessively? BTW Casino is a business.

There is no cure for addiction, remember that, it's someone's sole responsibility to do avoid, stop and be responsible in anything they should do even not in gambling, as long it is considered as addiction.
There's a cure but it will start by helping ourselves. So it depends on us if we're a responsible person to control ourselves in everything we do.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: Fortify on April 16, 2023, 08:00:49 AM
Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

This is going to become increasingly prevalent in the next couple years, especially with the big cryptocurrency gambling brands that currently exist. You can see that crypto is very much a target for different financial and regulatory agencies at the moment by the fact that two major P2P exchanges have closed down recently. They had been working well for over 10 years without a hitch but in the last couple months the two biggest ones closed down. It shows you the amount of power and influence that can be applied very quickly to even the biggest sites. If there is a change of mood or a politician needs an easy target then they are ripe for it unless they have all their documentation in order including KYC which mainstream fiat currency sites are all enforcing.


Title: Re: Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler
Post by: len01 on April 16, 2023, 09:48:19 AM
Casinos will never ask for this or else gamblers will go to other site and play with them, if you will restrict your players thar much, don’t expect them to stay with your site. Casinos though have to help those people who are already suffering with gambling addiction, I hope they focus more on being a responsible casinos than focusing on their profit. Remember the more healthy gamblers, the more profit for them.
But casinos have warned gamblers who come to their casinos to always gamble responsibly with their money and not gamble excessively. And the casino cannot go too far because it is up to each gambler and the casino also considers gamblers to be people who can care for themselves while playing gambling. But if those people are already gambling addicts, the casino can't do anything because it's beyond their responsibility. And those people have to try to cure their gambling addiction with the help of the people around them.
because the casino's job is only to provide and warn, but if people become addicted it is not the responsibility of the casino because it has always reminded you that you are always responsible for your bets.
from this we must understand that addiction will not stop anyone and if a casino asks for a certificate just to reduce addiction, maybe gamblers will stop gambling in that casino and move to another casino.
so gambling addiction is just the responsibility of every gambler.