Times When Casinos Will Ask Certificate That You Are A Responsible Gambler

[Crypt0Gore]

I remember when I was just a child, my parent used to talk about some people living close by that got their lives destroyed by gambling away their life savings, the government is not responsible for this and it's never the government's responsibility to tell people how to spend their money, that's slavery if it happens.

Gamble responsibly, is something many people failed to understand, this becomes addicting very fast if care is not taken but if you can gamble with what you can afford to lose you will always be fine.

Those that got their lives ruined by gambling took it too far, they got greedy and lost everything, if the government is controlling how people spend their money it's no more a free world.

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[Weawant]

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

The government would never do that, they act like the care while they don't, those casinos will lose customers if this get implemented and that'll be bad for business, if there's no business then the government don't get paid.

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.

[SirLancelot]

Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

This is one thing that is impossible for online casino.
Casino's can't  control who want to gamble and who dont want to gamble, responsible or irresponsible. Even the addicted gambler will claim a responsible gambler because he want to gamble. Who looses his wealth or health as a result of gambling addiction is not casino's issues.
For instance in the case of a drunkered, the seller will never stop selling alcohol to a drunkerd as long as he pays for his alcohol. In the case of online casino, they can't predict who is an addict or who has lost his wealth as a reault of gambling addiction.
So for an online casino to upload a responsible gambler certificate before continue gambling is almost impossible.

The harsh reality is, that a person who is addicted to something will find a way to do that no matter what, whether you restrict them, or do whatever you want to prevent them from doing that, but there will be a place or a person that they will find to fulfill the needs of their addiction because it is something that one cannot control.

Even if most casinos apply something like that, there will always be a platform that will allow everyone to gamble, and after such a scenario, such a casino will earn a lot of profits and get a lot of customers that will be restricted from other platforms.

[michellee]

I'm not sure gamblers will agree to the government's plan to upload responsible gambler certificates especially gamblers who usually play in crypto casinos, because it has crossed the boundaries of crypto casinos. Those crypto gamblers will probably move on to other crypto casinos that don't ask for those certificates.

But if the certificate is for a gambler who has lost a lot of money, maybe the certificate can become necessary because the casino doesn't want to be blamed by anyone. Apart from that, the government also supervises casinos, so the casinos are just trying to carry out the rules.

I don't think that a casino would really care if someone blames them for the loss of a gambler since everyone understands that casinos are a business and they are not going to close down their platforms only because someone has lost a significant amount of money with them, it's a user's responsibility to manage their finances.

It is like someone going to a shop, buying something, go break it, and then blaming the shop owner for taking their money. Casinos may provide you the platform to gamble but it is not them who make you gamble.

The casino obviously wouldn't really care about someone who had experienced a loss and the casino would probably argue that the casino has made it clear what the rules are in their casino. Casinos would reason that if users could manage their money to gamble, they wouldn't have that bad experience and could even enjoy it.

But the casino should investigate the case first to find out the facts that happened. Thus, the casino can announce it to the public and investigate for more information. But asking gamblers to upload responsible gambler certificates is not always the answer to gambling addiction problems. People addicted to gambling can play at other casinos if the casino or the government blocks their casino account.

[lizarder]

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.

I don't think it's an implementation that will limit gamblers to get involved, Casino runs a business and they never care how much user's money will run out, certificates as OP described also won't work to limit number of gamblers and level of restriction government also can't afford to play much bigger role.

Active gamblers have several criteria before playing and most of the addicted people are more difficult to control themselves and even though the state tries to block some Casino sites. The problem is not government certificates or bans, but gambling has been going on for decades long before online casinos began to develop.

[passwordnow]

Maybe aside from that, they'll also ask you for an interview before able to deposit and that's like going to happen during the registration. These casinos understand that the more they ask a lot of things from their customers, the more that they're pushing away that money from them.
That's why it's important to get along what's the demand is asking them and not to ask customers more that aren't really needed unless it's an actual information that the regulators want them to have.

That's true when there's a casino that has stricter requirements then those gamblers would just simply switch to another that requires less as it's unlikely for every casino to have the same requirements when they're based in different countries.

There would still be gamblers that are willing to follow those requirements but the downside for the affected casinos might be too much and in exchange, it's going to limit their operations.

Yeah, if there's an option why would the gamblers stay on that strict casino that's why it being asked many times in the forum about being required to comply with the KYC process. And with all of these requirements and stuff, this certificate is just going to be another obstacle for many gamblers and it's kind of annoying for some because there's this self validation that needs to be done and many of us don't like to be figured out like that as we know ourselves better.

[dezoel]

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.

I don't think it's an implementation that will limit gamblers to get involved, Casino runs a business and they never care how much user's money will run out, certificates as OP described also won't work to limit number of gamblers and level of restriction government also can't afford to play much bigger role.

Active gamblers have several criteria before playing and most of the addicted people are more difficult to control themselves and even though the state tries to block some Casino sites. The problem is not government certificates or bans, but gambling has been going on for decades long before online casinos began to develop.

No government or casino can stop someone with an addiction stops gambling no matter how hard they try, besides, casinos will basically not opt-in for such a policy knowing this will only cause them loss in their business as most of the revenue that they make come from people who are addicted of gambling and can't resist the urge to gamble.

A platform will basically lose a lot of its customers if they start asking for certificates of that kind all of a sudden, and that isn't something they would want to happen unless the governments force them to do so in which case they won't have a choice, but addicted gamblers will still find a way to gamble.

[lizarder]

No government or casino can stop someone with an addiction stops gambling no matter how hard they try, besides, casinos will basically not opt-in for such a policy knowing this will only cause them loss in their business as most of the revenue that they make come from people who are addicted of gambling and can't resist the urge to gamble.

A platform will basically lose a lot of its customers if they start asking for certificates of that kind all of a sudden, and that isn't something they would want to happen unless the governments force them to do so in which case they won't have a choice, but addicted gamblers will still find a way to gamble.

That's why I said it's not the right move to ask for a certificate to mark responsible gamblers, if they realize that gambling can make them worse, then what should be done is stop gambling and no one is forcing people to gamble. Gambling has been going on for decades, it's just that the patterns of gambling games are now more sophisticated than ever, so any excuse won't stop gamblers.

They are running a business in a Casino and asking for conditions that will unnecessarily burden the gambler, so they will decide to look for another Casino or will gamble according to traditional patterns, in a relationship doing business would be against the wishes of the OP and the Government also may not necessarily see this as a solution.

[Russlenat]

Will there come a time when online casinos will implement that you upload a responsible gambler certificate before you continue to play because of too many government restrictions it's not necessary for newly registered gamblers but for gamblers who lose a lot of money and their activity is they are suspected to be addicted to gambling.
The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

Just face the reality that not all the times the government can protect their people, especially in cases like gambling where it has already existed decades ago. That’s why I don’t see this happening in the future. What the government can do is to keep reminding the people to be responsible in all their actions and decisions, just like in gambling, if they can’t see theirselves managing the addiction later on, then it’s better not to engage in it in the first place. If they won’t listen, then I guess it’s not a loss of the government but the gamblers themselves.

[livingfree]

Just face the reality that not all the times the government can protect their people, especially in cases like gambling where it has already existed decades ago. That’s why I don’t see this happening in the future. What the government can do is to keep reminding the people to be responsible in all their actions and decisions, just like in gambling, if they can’t see theirselves managing the addiction later on, then it’s better not to engage in it in the first place. If they won’t listen, then I guess it’s not a loss of the government but the gamblers themselves.

That's the best option for them and just to make every one be reminded about being responsible when they gamble.

They can't stop or force them to do so because it's all in the books that everyone is free to do whatever they want to do especially in countries that have freedom.

Governments can add some additional requirements but I guess that this is too much for them to consider or not that going to have an impact at all. Because with these certificates, someone can still lie.

[Casdinyard]

Yeah. I believe so, the industry's riddled with irresponsible gamblers and by those who are just 2 big losses straight to gambling addiction land, so a form of a proof l, if such would be mecessary or be implemented in the future, will be asked of the gambler before they can even start with the gambling. Of thos is done to the entire gambling industry, it will definitely deter everyone who's at the verge of gambling addiction.


On the other hand though, this is money we're talking about. So there is a good chance the casinos will not implement it, what do they care about the gambling addicts anyway

[danherbias07]

I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.

[dezoel]

if there's an option why would the gamblers stay on that strict casino that's why it being asked many times in the forum about being required to comply with the KYC process. And with all of these requirements and stuff, this certificate is just going to be another obstacle for many gamblers and it's kind of annoying for some because there's this self validation that needs to be done and many of us don't like to be figured out like that as we know ourselves better.

Casinos that have a lot of players and are at the top will probably do their best to avoid having such a restriction even if the authorities try to force it on them, because they understand how critical this can be to the platform knowing a lot of gamblers will simply switch to another competitive platform and they will slowly start losing business.

Players who don't wish to comply with the rule of providing a responsible gambling certificate will start finding alternatives as soon as their favorite casinos makes the announcement about the new rule. That will be a nightmare for casino business, literally.

[len01]

I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.

for sure there will be a lot of casinos that are closed. I mean if such a certificate is assigned to the casino there will be many gamblers who stop gambling at online casinos which makes it uncomfortable when the anonymity has to be given by the casino just for the sake of gambling.
I agree with your statement that even KYC at this time seems to have burdened gamblers which makes it a little uncomfortable and if that happens, many gamblers will retire.

[uneng]

The reason why the government will implement this, as a precaution, is to protect people from losing their wealth and their health from too much gambling because of addiction, it's a way of protection.

The government would never do that, they act like the care while they don't, those casinos will lose customers if this get implemented and that'll be bad for business, if there's no business then the government don't get paid.

The casinos are one of the businesses that the government get taxes from because they're actively making profit. The government won't want to lose that tax revenue. The casino aren't responsible for your addiction too.

You should be able to control yourself and only bet with money you can afford to lose, if you can't handle your addiction then quit gambling and look for other ways you can make money or entertain yourself that isn't gambling.

I think it depends on the government we are talking about. Keep in mind the more centralized a government is, more bureaucracy and regulations they like creating and enforcing, because after all, it generates more jobs' spots for new regulators on the public administration, what allow the government to employ their campaign's supporters (working as a reward for the support and votes received to win the polls).

The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.

[coin-investor]

The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.

At this point in time, we never know and I maintain that casinos will not agree that this will become part of their requirement, especially for high rollers, but if the data of gamblers ruining their lives because of too much addiction the government might require casino operators to ask their players to upload a certificate that they are a responsible gamble maybe from a government institution set up by the government to check if you are a compulsive gambler.
When it comes to gambling it's a personal matter, it's the family's responsibility to check their loved one's level of addiction to gambling.

[virasisog]

The theory presented by OP is an interesting one, and I don't think it's totally impossible to happen for real. It will depend on the course modern society or some countries in particular take from now on.

At this point in time, we never know and I maintain that casinos will not agree that this will become part of their requirement, especially for high rollers, but if the data of gamblers ruining their lives because of too much addiction the government might require casino operators to ask their players to upload a certificate that they are a responsible gamble maybe from a government institution set up by the government to check if you are a compulsive gambler.
When it comes to gambling it's a personal matter, it's the family's responsibility to check their loved one's level of addiction to gambling.

It's a good way to control gambling addiction so I think it's possie but I don't think players will agree to it. Many gamblers actually hate KYC so what more if casinos will require to go deeper to ask for certificates just to check things about their gambling journey?
I don't think the government would also focus on it because their main focus is to tax gambling and not to totally eliminate gambling addiction. It's true that gambling addiction is a personal matter and it's something that should be solved personally. 

[roslinpl]

The casino sites should have the certificate to prove their are not the scammer. Mainly the online casino should need of casino certification, because many scam casinos was introduced now. People with certain money and had a cheap designer for the gambling site will start the casino on their own. They will not have huge bank balance to pay the winner, we should find them by do the background verification of every site. We also check the wagering of the casino sites. The casino owner can add their certificate home page to show they are not the scammer. In many countries, the casino is not the trusted one. For that country the casino may allow user to use of VPN to use their website.

[DoublerHunter]

I don't think so, that means their business going down if there is a need for a certificate to be passed. I mean, look at how gamblers are already against the KYC requirement of online casinos. They don't like it because it takes out their privacy. Most of them want to be kept hidden for their own security or protection.
What more with a certificate? Of course, attached to it will be your profile and maybe more information about you/the gambler.
This will not happen for a lot of reasons. Even the government might go against it for it will cost them the taxes they are receiving from these big businesses.

^Definitely right and I agree, so for what they will ask certificate as a responsible gambler, people nowadays as much as they can avoid KYC will do this, it seems like, they don't have any other option to face KYC gambling casino. Business is business here for a gambling casino, they don't want also to lose their players. If that certificate will be implemented, it will surely reduce players and transfer to their convenient way of use. The competition in the gambling business now is very rampant, so people choose a better one.

[QueenVera]

I really wouldn't get surprised if casinos get to to ask for certificate to prove that a gambler is responsible before allowed to gamble because just as we all know that nothing is guaranteed in gambling and anything can happen.

But I was also thinking about the possibilities of a casino asking for documents begire allowing anyone to wager on their platform and I couldn't stop but laugh because the government is just trying so hard to fustrate the effort of its citizens just to be in control of their activities because in my country it seems the government doesn't want to see it's citizens progress hence they want to be in charge of all they do.
Thank you op for this imagination and I hope the government doesn't make any attempt to privatize the gambling industry.