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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well. A typical case study is Chelsea, who have had one of their worst performances this season, currently occupying the 11th position. The challenges they have faced this season are unlike any other. Just last night, they were brutally defeated by Manchester United, who showed them no mercy, to the extent that they didn't even celebrate one of their goals.

As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

I bet based on the odds, not because of my favorite team will play or not. I also not bet every match, only few match which I think worth to bet, if there's no worthy bet, I wouldn't place any bet. But I would choose to watch my favorite team rather than other match I had bet, usually I only watch the replay on the other matches. If someone favorite team is Nottingham Forrest, they already suffer huge loss if he keep bet their favorite team :D

It's a good question  :D
My team is Corinthians, and this year is happening exactly what you said about Chelsea, the team is in a bad phase and loses a lot of matches
I haven't bet against my team in any match, but there are matches that I prefer not to bet, because I know that the odds are not good. In other occasions I prefer to bet a symbolic amount, something like 2 to 5 dollars just to bet and have the emotion of watching the game worthing a few bucks

But I don't remember in the recent past having bet against my team (if I had, I would have already won a good amount this year  :P)

If it is about betting, what concern me about can or no fan. I can even take a stronger club to win the club that I am a fan of. I am not even of a particular fan in sport, info for strong ones and nothing attached. Example, I supported Arsenal this season, but that does not mean that I will not support another club next season to win EPL. I supported Manchester City last season. When Manchester City and Arsenal was playing their second leg, wouldn't it be stupid if I go for Arsenal? It would be stupidity. There are some seasons that I do not go for any club at all.

My choice of betting is completely upon the favourite team/home country/home city and not on the performance. Recently haven't placed much of bets. In the ongoing season of IPL we had Bitcointalk IPL Prediction Pool & Discussion 2023 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5447095.0). It is completely a free entry prediction pool sponsored by Royse77 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632). In the prediction list my favourite was Chennai Super Kings. Now it had reached the finals, from the very first to the qualifier match my selection of team to win was on CSK on its every match.

Yeah I think I always put my bet in my favorite team or fighter even though the chance to beat the other team or fighter is low, but it doesn't matter because I will not regret when my favorite team or fighter is lose. Why we need to bet against our favorite team or fighter? I would be very sad and regret in the same time. But if my favorite team or fighter is almost has no chance to beat it's opponent, I would skip it.

from a certain point of view it is a contradiction.
I'm no longer an avid fan of my favorite team...personally I hate some situation behind "fans/hooligans".
If I had to choose between am economic win or their victory in a match... I really don't see place for negotiation, it's normal that I would choose my economic win!  ;D I also happened to bet against my national team more than once...  ::)

Two different versions of FANATICAL and CLUB, these two things are born in the bodies of fans/lovers of sports clubs especially football etc., now we talk about betting against or challenging our own club, there are usually two understandings to my knowledge for such a problem.
1. Gambling Some gamblers don't care and don't stick to the club they love, they see more of a club that has the potential to win, even if the club that is competing is their own favorite club. it's called professional gambling, they understand different problem clubs and gambling.
2. Fanatics, this is worse, most of them when gambling loses or wins, potentially or not, they stick to their stance/support for the club they love. We often see this option, if you lose a bet because your favorite club loses, anarchy and riots ensue.

Conclusion: for me personally, even though there is my favorite club, but for gambling I prefer and consider a club with a chance of winning, I put aside my favorite club, gamble money at stake not fanatics, that's my principle.

As long as the profitable odds there is actually no harm in betting against the club that I favored, but most of the matches that I bet to fight my favorite clubs always lose, for example I am a supporter of Manchester City and they compete at UCL it is quite beneficial to me from the UCL group phase to the final later .

Most of me prefer to bet on my favorite club and only bet occasionally to fight my favorite club usually if there is a match at the end of the season like this where Manchester City has won the league and does not seem to want to win in several matches at the end of the season and odds are quite tempting there is no harm in trying .  :D

Gambling is not a part of supporting my favorite team because this is my way to earn money through risk. I will buy fan tokens or watch the game live to show my support for my favorite team not through placing bets on it while I know exactly that they are inferior on the enemy team.

I always use my data analysis on my favorite team to bet in my favour whether it's with them or against them. We can't do anything if our favorite team sucks this season and the only way to enjoy watching their match despite they have a rough season is to bet against them so that you can still be happy no matter what the result is.

The Team Lose = Happy because your bet won
The Team Win = Happy because your team won

As long as you are comfortable with what you are going to lose, it's ok to bet because you are a die-hard fan but it's better to cheer for them and not bet if you knew all along that your team has no chance of winning.

A die-hard fan will always hope for his team to win whatever the odds, but you can't be losing money when they are losing,  your team will not give your money back if ever you lose.

I seldom against my favorite team it's like hoping that they lose and you do not represent yourself as a die-hard fan if you wish your favorite to lose.

There are other ways or chances to make money from sports betting but not at the expense of your favorite team.

Gambling involves taking a risk that involves money and sentiment apart thus I won't consider the fact that I am an ardent fan of a particular club in  placing my bet instead I place or gamble based on current form of any particular club for instance as an Arsenal fan if my club plays against Man City I always pick Man City to win ahead of my club because I place a bet based on past records between my team and the opponent and the current form of my team, though in many cases I do not place a bet if I knew my club isn't going to win a match that they stand no chances of winning in solidarity with my club.

I have not done so a lot of times but a couple of times I did and I will do it again in the Uefa Champions League final.I am a fan of Inter as I have worked in Italy some years ago and used to love this team and got to go to the stadium at least once a month,now I am in another country and I always watch their games from TV but this time I am going to bet against them and even in Asian Handicap because they simply cannot keep up with the mean machine that Manchester City is.

So 99% I don't bet against them but there is this 1% like in this case where betting against them is allowed  ;D.

I try not to bet against or with my team. It's just something that makes me feel as if I'm being janky or something.

It's very rare that I bet against my favorite team I only did it once, there is a thing called upset and every team or fighter always has a chance so it is hard to accept betting against your team and your team happens to win by upset so if you think you are ok losing money then go for your favorite team a die-hard will go down and go up with the team he is rooting whatever happens or whatever standing or rank his team has.
If you are betting against the team in which you are a die-hard fan then you cannot be considered a die-hard fan, a die-hard fan will not see his team losing but if you cannot keep it better to just let the team play cheer for them and don't bet.

I'm not the type of person who is careless enough to keep betting on my favorite team even seeing that their performance was quite bad that season. I have to be more rational looking at the existing conditions - even though it's my favorite team - as happened during the 2022 EPL season when Manchester United's performance was so bad I was reluctant to bet on them. I'm not blaming those who keep betting on their favorite team in all conditions, but it's just unwise to waste your money on something that could have been avoided.

It will be wrong to be a gambler if you are using your emotions when it comes to betting. That's the path to losing more money so it should not be done.
Bet for the team with high chance to win and not because you are a fan. This is why many football fans are losing a lot of money in gambling because they do this kind of emotional bet.
I would bet against them if ever I see an opportunity for a profit but if my instincts tell me they will win even if they are underdogs then I shall take it too.

Fan always defend the club or the athlete and even find an excuse whenever they fail.
But if the discussion is about making money, for a gambler they side who would likely win and they just have to look at which one has the advantage.

The reality is that a club also lose fans whenever they constantly lose. We're attracted to winners.

I have a slightly different opinion and attitude towards football and football clubs, because I don't consider myself a fan of one single team. I root for one or the other, depending on the current opponents, positions in the standings and just some moments, such as the team's perseverance and desire to win. I am pleased to watch the football process itself and enjoy the spectacle. Therefore, my answer to your question will be peculiar.

I would lightly bet against a team I sympathize with for financial gain. And that's why. Any bet is always aimed at making a profit, not a loss. There is no place for sentimentality, favorite teams and other nonsense in any bet. Only cold calculation works here: I bet money - I want to win. If I saw that I could break a good jackpot by betting against my favorite team, I would not hesitate to do it, ignoring all my emotional experiences.

Betting should not be mixed with club loyalty to avoid conflicts of interest. If all the same mixed, then act for the purpose of obtaining benefits, ignoring sentiment.

days ago there was a real madrid game against manchester city, it was a champions league game, i'm a fan of real madrid. I support real madrid but when it comes to placing sports bets I have to be people who know how to separate feelings because I analyze the data of the two teams, for example I had to analyze which of the two teams has the best squad, clearly that the answer is manchester city, which of the two teams has the better defense and attack, clearly it is manchester city, so the deeper I got into data collection the greater my inclination was to bet on manchester city, and it does not mean that I would be against real madrid, that's not it.

my intention when I place a bet is to make a profit, of course, one should not think that  Gambling are things to obtain profits, it is nothing like that, but whenever I have the intention of placing a bet on a game I analyze the game with the the objective of making a profit, there is nothing to put feelings on, but when it is a game in which I will not place a bet, then I keep watching and supporting the team of which I am a fan, by that I mean that it is necessary to know how to separate things, one should not bet in any emotion-based team, this is the worst mistake of all, as soon as the person does this he is doomed to lose everything in the short and long term

I think it will depend on our fanaticism for the club because if we want to use the moment to our advantage, we will probably bet against your club, especially if our club's opponents are better than ours. It would be a loss if we chose our club when the opponent was stronger.

But some people will stay loyal and not bet against them. And some just watch the game and don't gamble because they don't want to see that loss. I don't know about people, but if it were me, I would rather not bet and not watch it because it hurts to see our club lose.

If you're an avid fan you'd more likely go with a do-or-die but if you are just into gambling and winning, you'd be biased with the other team if they have the bigger chance to win. It all depenxs to the gambler's mindset.Neither are wrong to do so. Not all gamblers are just seeking for profit and some are just supporting their biased teams regarless of the outcome. On my end, whenever I am not assure of the odds of winning, I tend to just watch and avoid betting. Indeed profit is important but being a fan is another thing. Atleast entertainment will be fulfilled but if you are interested to gamble, then selecting a team would be fine to do so even if it contrasts with your initial expectations.
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I am not a very fanatical, but I watch some matches of my favorite team with a beer for pleasure. Naturally, I also have an idea about the current situation of the team. If the team I'm supporting is performing bad and I stumble upon a really good odds opportunity, it's often the case that I bet on the opposing team's odds of winning. Considering that I do not support this team fanatically, it is not very sad for me to lose that match in situations like these, because I earn snacks and beer money for the next match. In summary, if my favorite team is performing bad and has a potentially losing match, I don't hesitate to bet on the opposing team's victory. Also, if the team I support loses this match, I'm not too upset.

I typically place my bets based on the odds rather than my personal preference for a certain team. After all, gambling is a separate realm from fandom. However, there are occasions where I do bet on my favorite team even if the odds are not in their favor. This is because having a deeper understanding of my favorite team can pay off in the end. The more I know about my favorite team, the better chance I have of predicting their success. The odds of winning are better when you bet on the underdog. And if you are a fan of your favorite team, then it makes sense to root for them even if they do not have the best chance of winning.

It is true that we are always passionate about our clubs and always want them to win but gambling is all about the money. We play gambling for fun but nobody wants to lose his bet also. There is no way I will keep betting on a team that is underperforming and is likely to make me lose my stake. In the case of Chelsea, I will never be driven by club loyalty when placing my bets because the club is out of shape and needs help. But it is usually more interesting to bet on your club that is doing well and willing is always exciting.


I guess you will not continue betting on a team like Chelsea, who has become a cheap team to every team in the English Premier League. It will mean that you will keep wasting your money. It is better to endure their losses alone than to combine them with the loss of your money.

In my case, here in my country we do not have a very successful national selection on football. So it would be likely they would lose against any other team of world fame, like Argentina, Chile, Colombia, France, Germany, etc..

I would rather not to bet against my own team, I would skip the match or I would bet on my teams favor, but with a modest amount of money, so in case of them losing, it would not hurt my pocket very much. Here in Venezuela, we can be quite proud of our team when it manages to give small victories to us from time to time.  :)

I'm not really a die hard type of fan so I just bet on whoever I think will win the game. I bet for the purpose of winning and not by whom I like. But if I'm in a situation where I'm a die hard fan of a club and it seems that they are not performing well against the opponent, I'd either won't bet or will still bet for my favorite club. Cause a die hard fan is different from a casual fan so it would be hard on you to vote for someone against your favorite. I'd probably have a hard time with my emotions whether I'll be happy that I won the bet or sad for my favorite team losing.

Would betting that they would lose count as not against your club? You know like putting money on your favorite club plus some handicap? I do that sometimes and I personally have no guilt whatsoever if I win even though they lost hehe.

I have nothing against those extremely loyal fans but they should probably stay out of gambling when their team sucks. They can still support the team by buying tickets or team apparels.

Odds and activity should be the reason.

Unless, I have a good odds and want to do stupid things or YOLO. Even my team underdogs, we are still gonna to bet anyway but most of "Sportbet" user are quite being neutral for the topic of  betting.

That's why, they have more advantage rather than casino player.

Same with me. As a sign of respect to my favorite team. I’d rather skip betting than bet against them since it’s really painful to watch the game while wishing your favorite team lose just to win your bet.

There’s a lot of available matches that we can bet. We can always skip on bets that we don’t like rather than keep betting even on the match that we are uncomfortable due to our favorite team is the underdog. I rarely play on sportsbook but if our national team will play against strong team, I will just watch the game without any bet placed to enjoy and support at the same time.

There are two options, one is putting the money first and betting against them if the money and the odds is something good, that is if you do not care much for your club. It will be foolish to bet on your team to win, when you clearly know they are doing badly. The next option is to just completely avoiding any game that your team is playing if you love them too much and feel like you will be betraying your loyalty to them betting against them, no need to bet, so you do not have to make a choice. You can bet on other teams and still make your money.

My support has its limits - I may support a particular club or team but if it might cause me to lose money in the long run then I might as well just watch on the sidelines and not bet at all. You can still support your club/team by not betting on them and just be there when they have games or buy their merch. But if you really want to make money and you know that your club is really up to no good when it comes to the match-up, you can be a degen and make money off of it. The question is, can your conscience do it? I guess not.

Yes of course, my club isn't giving me anything in return,I just like their football pattern and enjoy watching my club football doesn't mean that if my club is in a poor form I will still foolishly stake for them to win a game that I know is impossible for them to win at that moment.

Gambling is fun but no gambler will love to stake on a game that he is very sure that he will not win. I don't become biased or sentimental when it comes to football. Some persons can go to any length to defend their club even in their poor form. This reminds me of a friend that is a Chelsea, this season that Chelsea is weak in their games,he also brag that Chelsea will win their matches. Yesterday,when Chelsea was losing 2-0 to Manchester united,he almost bet with someone that Chelsea will equalise the two goals. If not for me that discouraged him,he wanted to bet with that person on his conclusion.

C'mon man only a sentimental fool wouldn't bet against his club on knowing that he is going to gain from them losing. Well I cant speak for everyone but for my stand I definitely do that almost all the time when my club is actually experiencing a losing spree and I call it a reverse bet so I can't feel it because I know how it feels for your team to lose a match so I actually stake two different ticket with different option on the selected games. I have had series of loses so I have even decided to go neutral on the supporting of any teams so now I bet only on stats of the current forms of the teams I want put my money on.

True. It’s okay to lose as long as you can manage the amount you lose, after all betting does not assure winning on your favorite club the whole time. However, if asked if I’ll gonna bet against my favorite club, that’s seldom to happen. I always bet on my favorite team, and if ever the chances of losing is high, then it’s better not to bet at all and just support them in their games. It’s not a die-hard fan anymore if you bet on the other team for the sake of money. Sometimes, satisfaction counts more than simply winning money.

As a neutral football fan who appreciates the underdog (although I do have a soft spot for Real Madrid), let me present a different perspective. When you wager against your club, you're not necessarily betraying them, right? Rather, you're acknowledging the unpredictability of the game, the fickle nature of fate. Isn't that part of the charm?

Look at Chelsea's recent downturn. Wouldn't a rational bettor see this as an opportunity to make some money, all club allegiances aside? I mean, loyalty to a football club shouldn't mean turning a blind eye to their potential shortcomings. Who's to say pragmatism and passion can't coexist?

Well I don't like seeing my team lose and definitely hate to see them on my coupon and I predicted them to lose so when my team is experiencing such hard times I just skip them from any of my bets and I do this because I don't gamble because of the money I want to win just for the fun of it and it won't be any fun for me to see my team am supporting losing even though I know if I predict to lose it will be of financial benefit to me .

I don't let emotions get in the way. I go for the odds and also checking previous history of the club i fan and their opponents then make my bet based on whom i feel can make it through the 90' strong. If the performance of my club isn't satisfactory in a particular season i don't mind betting against them till the end of that season the interest is the money and not the fan title.

There's no word fanaticism in my gambling, fanatical people will be losers (most cases), I'm a big fan of Atletico Madrid, do you remember when they were beaten 1 - 0 by Barcelona recently?  I didn't bet on that match because I was sure that Atletico Madrid would lose, that's how I did it, even though I don't support them from gambling, at least I still support them and hope they can beat Barcelona at that time. My way of thinking like this didn't just come to me, I have this kind of thinking because I was let down by them and at that time I made a big bet (lost).  In conclusion, it's okay for you to be a fanatic of the club you like, but don't always bring it into gambling, because that will really kill you.

In as much as I always wish my team to win in every game they play, it will be a good opportunity to win big betting against my team especially when the team is in a poor state. Personally I have won several times betting against my team Manchester United when they were in poor form last season, there was a particular season when they will play straight three draws in three matches will I continue to be loyal and keep losing funds just because I support them I guess no is the answer, I will always want the good of my team but when they can't win a match due to their terrible season I will surely increase my financial gain betting against them.

I watched the matched last night, and I can remember Manchester United did actually played a very good game, but when it comes to gambling, and most especially sport betting, I always try to analyze the strength & previous performance of both teams (i.e my favourite club) and the other to see which has a better chance of winning, and if I notice my club has a very slim chance of winning, I rather stake against my favorite club or not stake at all. However, I'm a fan of Manchester City & I really love the fact that Pep Guardiola has been doing a good job since we made him our couch.

You’re a gambler, there should be no emotional attached with your favorite team especially if they are struggling already. If there’s a chance to make profit then I’ll grab it even if its betting against my favorite team. Every team have their own struggles, and betting should also be analyzed before putting your money. There are other gamblers who are loyal with their favorite and will just avoid to place a bet because they don’t want to feel sad if their favorite team lose the game.

Betting against them doesn't necessarily equate to me as relinquishing my liking to them. So I think I would be able to take a bet that is against them if given the chance, especially if as you said, the team that I am a fan of is not particularly performing well on the league. I could understand these people who are superfans of certain teams because way back then I was one but as time passes by and as you delve deeper in the gambling industry you'd soon find out that it doesn't really matter. All that does is that play with the winners. But if you're a fan of the sport and a die-hard follower of one team, with no particular affiliation with gambling or whatnot, you'd definitely find yourself being more on the side of staying loyal to your team of choosing, most of the time it's your hometown's team but you do you.

I would not. I'm not a die-hard fan, but I watch matches of my national football team and when I feel like they don't have a chance I prefer not to bet at all than bet against them. I know it's just business and when you see a team in bad shape you could capitalize on it, but I prefer not to because if they somehow were to pull it off, I'd feel so bad about betting against them and losing money.
I just prefer to stay out of it.

Well I will always do whatever legit thing it takes to make money and that's inckude betting against my club  especially  if they're not doing well..
Most times I treat sport watch totally  different from soccer betting because the purposes are different  and when betting , I only choose  games and teams that I think might win a match and not favoring  any particular team because I believe  that whether the team wins a match or not, they are still getting paid  and I don't have to support a team because of fan love when I'm not sure of their winnings.

that is true. just remember, at the end of the day, the club doesn't know you or doesn't care about your funds. whatever you will do with it is up to you. so for me, if you see an opportunity that you can gain from betting on the opposite team, why not? you are still their fan but we are talking about your personal money here. keep in mind that they don't care whether you will lose or not with your bets. try being practical on this matter, you will thank yourself later on.

Usually im a type of person who isnt really that sticking into something which isnt really that good already.Yes, we've been might be supporting them full force wayback but we know that greatness doesnt really last
forever on which there would really be a time on where these teams turns out to be shit and been beaten up which you didnt even expect that other teams could able to do so.Im not saying that they arent unbeatable but on the sense if those losses are something that unbelievable then you would really be molding up that kind of presumptions that they are already rusting when it comes to performance or really have
that bad roster or whatsoever kind of factors which do mainly affecting them.

In speaking about betting then i dont really have that kind of loyalty.Of course i would really be aiming into those teams which does have the high potential on winning up a certain game and wouldnt really
be considering on sticking on a team just because you do like them or mainly support them. Somewhat this is really something according on someones preference though.

You can always settle being at these two, as a gambler and as a fan. You can forget for a moment that you're a fan of the club that you're going to bet against with.

And that's normal in the gambling world when you're basing your reality on the odds and not on how die hard fan you are.

That's the reality that many are dealing with and they know their limitations as a fan, the support is there but they need money if they're sure on which club to bet for.

I’ve done this many times already because it seems that your favorite team can’t be dominant forever especially if the key players are no longer part of the team. Betting is more fun if your favorite team won though of course you should not hesitate to bet against them because that’s an opportunity for you to make profit which is the goal of every bettor, so set aside your emotion and bet based on facts.

Life is just like this on which you would really be needing to adjust and you should really know on when to let it go or when you would be changing up your perspective in life in terms or favorites or those things that you do support. I agree that each team/player cant really be that dominant forever because there's always a chance that time will come that there would really be more better teams might really be able to encounter
and the team that you've been supporting is really that slowly getting beaten up or totally not really that much competitive against the new ones. Making or using up your own sense or simply with your common sense,
would you really still stick on something that could bring out more losses into your gambling betting just because you are mainly been supporting or you are a fan of a certain team and sticking into it?
It doesnt really make sense on that case and you are just basically be trying out to be supportive but deep inside you've been hurting on the money or bets that you do keep on losing.
Sooner or later you would really be having those realizations and would really be making out those adjustments on which you do seem that it would really be ideal.

This is a more professional way to bet and not to becloud your analysis with emotions and sentiment when you have already seen the handwriting on the war . Gambling is now a means of livelihood for many people, so it is a serious business and investment not to be joked with. It is better based on analysis like you have judged your team Real Madrid not to be better match for Manchester city going by your analysis and truly the game ended 4:0 against Madrid making it a bitter lose for them. If you have relied on sentiment and attachment for them and staking them to win of course you would have lost. The worse to happen is not to bet your team at all if you don't want to be seen as someone not supportive to your team.

If am a die hard fan of a club and I notice that the club is having little or no chances of winning a game, then I will definitely bet against them, if I know that my club is going to lose and I gamble in support of them, it's just like am wasting money intentionally, when I know that my club won't win, not that I will stop supporting them, but I won't gamble in support of them. I know it will be painful seeing my club losing, but at least if am feeling pains that they are losing, I know I am already making money from their loss no matter how I love a club, I don't still joke with my money.

Being a gambler and being a fan is two different things.  As a gambler we wanted to maximize the possibility of profiting so in case of sports betting we should use our rational thinking to bet on which team will likely to win.  I can cheer with my favorite team but being them my favorite cannot bring any food to my table.  So we should put limiter on how we can show our support to the Club but not to the point that I have to sacrifice my chance of assuring my win in a sports bet.  So yeah, I will bet on the opponent if I calculate that my favorite team will lose.

To phrase your question more in simpler terms:
would you bet on something that has a higher chance of winning or on the other which has a higher chance of you losing but you stayed loyal to your choice?

In the question above, I think the answer is quite obvious and simple. No matter how loyal you are on a certain team, if we are talking about the odds since money is involve in the process, then you must choose betting against your own team, despite loyal you are, in order to win the bet.

I mean, is it really against your morals to bet against your team due to loyalty? Would you rather lose money or remain loyal in your team? I guess it really depends on how you view it but I would obviously bet against it in order to win in the process.

Money is indeed involved and we cant just risks out just because you do mainly support them or you are a fan. This is why we do gamble just because we are intended to win on which it would really be that a

normal approach that you would really be going into those favorites or to those who are likely to win but we know that upsets could happen too.There are people who wo make out their bets and sticking into their highly favorite teams despite on getting against with the best teams. This is actually depending on a certain individual because we do really have that different insights and views into things which it would
really be normal that decisions would really vary.

Die hard or not, i wouldnt still making out some blind bets even if its already that too obvious on whose gonna win but of course with some possible factors like abscense of star player or line up
then you might really be changing up your analysis.

Yes, if I see that the club I support is going head-to-head against a stronger club, which I am very convinced can win, then I have no choice but to bet against my club. I don't see anything wrong with doing so, but I can't possibly see that this team can't win this match, so I will just bet on them to win.

Realistic thinking like that is really needed, when the odds for your favorite team are not so good and you are still supporting it, it will only give you a loss if you keep betting on your favorite team. I will stop betting if I can't back a team that I don't like. It's better to stop betting than to lose money because of my carelessness and that's even obvious.
limit as gamblers and fans that must be done, do not sacrifice bets that in the end we already know what will happen.

I think it's very different, if we look at "fanatics" and "fans", for me those fanatics are going to bet on their favorite team regardless if they are performing very well or not. And I think it's not good per se, I mean financially you know that you are going to lose but still, because you are a die hard fans and will continue to support them. But for me, it's a terrible season already, it might be better to bet against them to win some money.

Yes, and that's what we should do, analyze the game, not just because the other team is our favorite, we automatically have to bet on them. Look at the odds, see who has the better chance of winning and if we found out that our favorite team is the underdog them it is better to bet against them, in my opinion. Use our logic thinking and not our emotions when betting.

I believe that it is possible to reconcile the passion for the team we love with the reason to make a bet that does not deplete our financial investments.
Whenever I believe that there is a real possibility that my team will win a match I bet on it, obviously, but when it is in a very bad phase or will face a team that is considerably stronger, I still root for my team, however I bet against it.

But if my team loses, at least I still won the bet. If he loses... I will still have comfort in my heart.

When we are big fans of a club it will be very difficult to bet on other teams that will compete against our favorite team, usually if we see an opportunity for our favorite team to win it is difficult for us to choose another betting market not to stay on the money line or if not also find Attractive odds, so choose not to bet because sometimes trust in our favorite team cannot be judged by betting or not.
But usually, fans are hesitant to bet on their favorite team because their condition is unstable so it will be hard to risk money to keep betting even though we understand that winning a bet looks impossible, and when we don't bet it doesn't mean we don't love the club anymore Of course, I would prefer to just enjoy the match because that alone is annoying enough to see our favorite team lose, even more so when you lose a bet.
If someone bets on another team who is currently playing against their favorite team, that doesn't mean they are disloyal, they only see opportunities to make money, and for me it's fine.

I would still try to pick the team which is having biggest potential. Even if i were the die hard of club but it was not making me lose my sense if i were putting for money to get more. It will be so stupid if i will be missing opportunity to get money.
Im still using my sense to pick which team that potentially win the game even though if it will be facing my favorite club but business is business. The only stupid people who will always try to pick the team that will be facing lose streak. that means they were also wasting their opportunities as well. I just being realistic with any situation. Sometime you can loyal with your favorite club but you must also still use your sense. Think about that.
You can imagine how much money already lost by the die hard of chelsea if they kept put their choice into the chelsea since the middle of season.

As professional gamblers, we should be able to put important something, In this case, If we are die-hard fans of a club better to do not to bet it if meet the stronger team, because If we do that we will get double hurt if lost. I know that besides my experience at my local league after my favorite club lost dramatically, yes I lost my money and hurt it also. I know that it seems mission impossible for my favorite club to be won because meet the strongest team (will be won on paper), but I still insist to bet all my money, I just hoping for a miracle where technically my favorite club has lost before the match starts.

Is business colliding with fandom? A beverage with the potential to cause such a severe hangover! Football and gambling are like vinegar and baking soda; each is great on its own but may cause an explosion if combined. Gambling should be based on probability, probability theory, and luck. Gambling based on emotion rather than logic is a certain way to see your hard-earned cash go down the drain. It's not as much fun as it might sound, believe me! Should you, then, lay odds against your favourite club? Why not, if the odds are in your favour and your side is performing like a bunch of hungover slobs? This is really opportunism, not treason. And you can cry all the way to the bank at the end of the day!

Well, I would probably bet against my favorite team and then still be in its support and would want it to win even if I lose the bet because betting or gambling doesn't really provide any support towards the team that you like and it should be done based on the odds and chances of both teams whether which one has got higher chances of winning the match.

If I bet on my favorite team knowing that they are weaker than the opponent, and they lose the match, I will still lose the bet, but if I bet on the opponent and just support my team and want it to win if it loses, I will win the bet though I might be disappointed, and if it wins, I will still be happy even if I have lost the bet.

I will definitely do that over and over again, there's what we call argument and what we called gambling, they are two different things, i can argue with someone to an extent about the club or game i supported, but when it comes to gambling, it's not about whom you like, it's about facing the reality, if your opponent can beat you on bet then it's foolishness to still support your club for winning while placing a bet, you did not support them not because you don't like them but because you already knows about the outcome of the game base on putting many factors into consideration, when you loose your gambling bet they won't come and refund you back your money and your being supportive or not doesn't change anything about them loosing or not.

We really shouldn't need to place bets when our team meets a stronger team where the chances of our team winning will be smaller than the opposing team. And maybe we just watch the game so that if our team loses, we don't feel too sad. But if we think there is still a chance to win or at least draw, we can place a bet but don't need to bet a lot of money. We have to know ourselves when placing bets and when we see that we have a small chance of winning, we have to be wise in our attitude. But I think there are still people who take risks placing bets for their team because they are huge fans and placing bets for their team is a moral support even though their team doesn't know him.

I honestly understand being in that situation as I can apply that to me being a die-hard of the NBA's Dallas Mavericks for 2 Decades and still betting in favor of them at some point regardless of their winning rate or being an underdog. Take note, I'm a die-hard sports betting enthusiast but when it comes to my super favorite team, I'm against all odds and ignoring the risk factor.

But it doesn't mean I have to go always in a suicide bet. It stilll depends on how I looked at the game as being an underdog doesn't actually mean a pure underdog. Since I know my favorite team well, it helps me create my own analysis if a certain underdog bet is "worth taking a risks".

Experience is the key and that tell me what should I do as a; being a long-time fan of my favorite team + being a sports bettor for long.

Here we are talking about money. If I win, I will be happy and if I loss, I will be sad. And if I Know that my club will lose the match, I will bet for opposite club to win the game. By the way even they wins I will receive anything fe them so supporting them is even like a vain support. If I will win from the opposite club then I will bet for them. Those players are doing their work and they are been paid for their so why would I disturb myself for something that I will have a share. My share is only from the bet so I have to king winning them.

In this case I prefer rationality when doing it.
Indeed, the love for a club sometimes also makes the bet a little more towards the club but on the other hand this is gambling and I put it aside a little if my favorite club has probabilities and statistics that don't go well.
For example, if someone is a Chelsea fan and also a fan of sportsbook betting, I think they will certainly realize that being at their club will be very bad to bet on, so in this case there are 2 choices whether to really skip the bet.
But indeed if it was me I would prefer the second choice even if it is the favorite club but when it comes to betting and having a high enough probability I will still choose the opponent when possible.

I usually bet against my team since every time I betted for them they lost so when they play some important match I bet against them. If they win I'm happy if they lose I got some more money at the end.

When it comes to betting, it's important not to let emotions guide your decisions. Even if I'm a die-hard fan, I wouldn't hesitate to bet against my favorite team if it's the more profitable choice. Emotion-driven decisions are one of the main reasons why gamblers often fail to succeed in sports betting. It's crucial to prioritize a strategic and rational approach, where the mind takes precedence over the heart. Having big plans and goals is great, but it's essential to align them with a sound betting strategy.

Right because its dumb decision to bet on your favorite club while you know that they have no match to their upcoming opponent. I will not hesitate to bet against my club if that gives me a huge possibilities to gain. Betting is not about being a fanatic since you need to be smart to see which of those teams are underdogs and not or which of them got heavy advantage at that time.

Be practical since this is more important rather than be a loser fan kid.

No problem being a fan but yeah, in these times we all are trying to be practical and with such bets. There's no way a fan will ignore these odds, you'll remain as a fan but let the odds and bookmakers handle the gamble. And you as a bettor, don't let the chance pass because it's your chance to make money. No matter what happens to your club as long as you win your bet, you'll still be happy. But if you don't bet and your club wins, you'll still be happy. And if your bet losses and your club win, you'll be sad.

Yes for sure, during every Worldcup I am betting against my country. In my opinion it's the perfect strategy to bet your club and has nothing to do with loyalty. Some people might not understand it, but it has pretty easy idea behind. You basically use sports betting to hedge your emotions. So when your team wins you feel happy and don't worry about the small loss. As a real fan the win is always more important than the money. And when your team losses you feel bad, but at least can be happy about some money you won. After a devastating loss you can buy drinks from your bet. It's like getting drunk for free after a big loss. That is why I always place 4-5 bets on the top favorites at the start of the world cup and not bet on my own country. Only during some later matches I bet on them if it makes sense and they have a good chance of winning.

Some people bet for fun, others for profit, and I think that's the biggest difference when it comes to the club we support. I don't see how anyone will support their club by betting on it, and at the same time knowing that they will most likely not win that bet - and on the other hand, we know that the biggest support comes from buying tickets, jerseys/souvenirs and cheering in the stands.

Therefore, I don't see why someone should be called disloyal if they don't bet on their club, because sport is much more than betting, or at least it used to be.

It's true with me, when there is a bigger opportunity to get some winning money, I will make the best use of it by risking some money, even if it has to be against my favorite team.
Everyone will be a little confused when faced with a choice like this, but I myself am more concerned with what can provide a number of benefits than having to give up a big opportunity that is clearly right in front of my eyes.
It should also be remembered that opportunities like this are very rare to find, so we must make the most of it.

to be honest, I am a fan of soccer teams myself, but if my favorite team is having a bad time in a particular season, I will avoid betting on it. but if circumstances allow for example MU vs Chelsea both teams have the potential to score goals, I will bet on both teams to score.
so that I stick to my favorite team but also benefit from this match.
but there is also like my friend who has a favorite team but if the team is very bad he will be against betting on another team which has a bigger chance of winning and I will not blame my friend because realistic thinking is needed. no one wants to lose after betting on his favorite team.

As for me, loyalty shouldn't always work on betting. We all have our favorite teams and clubs but if we will just base our decisions on loyalty, even if our favorite team is losing, it will still have a huge impact on our gambling journey as well as our finances. Our main goal in sports betting is to win and even though we support a certain team, it doesn't mean that we always have to bet on them. I have the same experience when my favorite team has been on a bad losing streak that made them on a bad lower spot but I still decided to be practical since betting will involve my money so I bet on their opponent. I have benefited from my decision but that doesn't mean that I'm not supporting my favorite team anymore. There are just times where we need to be practical and just control our emotions.

Not a club, I watch football but I don't really root for any clubs so can't speak for that, but if I were to liken it to teams for eSports, then yes absolutely. I was a pretty big brain-dead fan in the past though, I pretty much thought SKT dominated the League eSports, and I was rooting for PSG LGD in Ti 6 and 7. OGs cinderella comeback made me rethink my decisions when it comes to rooting for teams, since that showed how a team with nothing and no one rooting for it can actually be a dark horse.

Still, didn't exactly push me to make risky decisions and root for teams, my favorite one included, just because I like it., in fact made me realize that I should assume that the favored team would guaranteed to be a win. Better to remove any bias and just judge based on what they showed for that certain tournament.

I never go with betting on my favourite team when it play against the leading team. Whenever it plays a match against the team that is equally strong I'll go with the odds of my favourite team without taking into consideration whether the bet will win or not. My prime is to support the team as well have some fun watching the game.

When I prefer to spend on games that I wasn't much aware of, I'll prefer to go with the lowest odds. This used to give success, however at times we easily get into traps and stay unlucky.

^For me, betting against your club could potentially bring you financial gain.
If you prioritize your financial gain above all else, it probably is tempting to bet against your club. Betting against your club could lead to conflicting emotions and a sense of disloyalty, especially if you have a deep-rooted attachment to the team. It might also strain your relationship with fellow fans and affect the overall enjoyment of the sport.
However, the decision is yours to make, considering both your gambling interests and your loyalty as a fan, and if you think it is very important to you to take advantage, be a gambler I think, and separate the word die-hard fan.

I don't think it has become a crime to make money, even if my clubs are having a successful season, when I see opportunity in them that will make me money, I will bet on it because as a fan, I have been with them for years; emotion aside I know what they are capable of doing and I know some matches they can win and there are some they can't win, so I don't see any valid reason why I wouldn't bet against them. Arsenal for example, anytime they have a match against Manchester City, I do bet that Haaland to have a short on target, this is because in every match they play, Haaland must make attempt to score and a goal on short we likely happen even if he doesn't get a chance to score.

Well, business is business. There isn't any cons on betting against your club, as the objective here is to predict who is going to win and not to cheer for one team or another.

Moreover, from a wider perspective, let's imagine the fans of a team bet against their club, and use the profit made with this bet to help their team financially on the next season, so the club could hire superior players and support staff to improve the team's performance.

That would be crazy, but still practicable, right?

It is a rational move especially when the gap between the team is too obvious.  I also tend to bet on the stronger team when comes to gambling.  After all cheering for our favorite team may bring happiness but it won't feed us if our bet is lost.


In my part, I always avoid games that I am not familiar with since they often lead to losses and bankroll depletion.

Exactly.

The club owners and members and other fans won't even get mad at you just because you see the odds is better than the opponent and you think that your favorite club will lose this day. People wouldn't even care if you lose, so why care for the thoughts of others since you're not even associated with the entire club and you're just the same as the others for being a fan.

Yeah crazy. These are like the die hard fans but that's out of scope and you're not obligated to do such for the club as they've got sums of budget per season and per contract of their hired people whether the staff or the players.

But to show support with the money you've won, you're free to do that and no one can stop you unless they think it's inappropriate or harsh for them.

at the end of the day, what matters is how much you have in your pockets? that is true, people won't care if you lose or not. so better think of yourself and not others.
without a doubt, some people even bet on the opposite team if they see such advantage. after all, people do care about their financial gain on this activity, whether you are a die-hard fan or not.

It really depends on the situation and where my favorite team is up against as not all Dominant are always bound to win. There are times that I want to stay loyal to my favorite team and trust them with my money because my analysis tells me that there's a reason to believe that. For example, my favorite team is listed as the underdog but regardless, I'm sure that they can show up something to their sleeves to upset the listed favorite.

Besides, it's worth putting money on Moneyline on a favorite team of mine if they are having a terrible season. It means expect some high odds.

It's just about proper timing on placing money at these worst teams. It's impossible that throughout the season, they can't list at least few wins.

Of course. It is one thing if I want my team to win, and another if I believe, on the basis of the most rational thinking possible, that my team will lose, and I bet accordingly. Besides, if I do that, if my team loses, I win money and if my team wins, I have lost the bet but at least my team has won, so I don't see a problem.

That 'loyalty' you talk about is rubbish, besides the fact that it is impossible for your team to win all the time.

Gambling is a business, supporting a football isn't a business. You're not been paid to support a club and the club mightn't know you. If I know my club can't defeat a particular team and I know they'll will lose to them, there's nothing wrong for me trying to make money from their loss.

You already know youI'll suffer in the hands of the opposition club. So since I can't get the joy of winning let me get some money to buy myself some bear. You gamble to make money and if you're a frequent gambler, you will never bet for your club to win when you know your club can't win.

You already know the club that your team are playing against.Since you can't intentionally make yourself to lose just because of the club you're supporting, I think the same should apply to betting against them. When gambling always try to win not lose intentionally.

This has already happened to me, and to be honest I always support my football club. My club is ranked 1st in my country and is already strong so it's difficult to believe that they will be defeated. However, in international cups it becomes challenging. I would remain loyal to my club even if we were facing teams like Real Madrid or Manchester City. I always have hope that we will win the game no matter what.

Realistically, it's quite difficult to win against one of the best teams in the world but I would never bet against my team. You might call me crazy, but I just love my football club too much and I attend almost all of their games during the season.

I would not dare bet against them if I see an opportunity to make money. Just like the Golden State Warriors, I am a big fan of them but when injuries happen and Steph Curry or Klay Thompson will not play then I might bet for the other team instead for them. I don't mind, I am not that hardcore fan that will put my money at risk just because of my emotions.
That's the difference between a gambler and a fan. You don't let your emotions stop you from betting against the team that you like, in any sport, football, baseball, boxing, etc...
I also love betting for the underdogs so even if the favorite is the team I like, I'd rather try to make money first. It's not like they will know that we ain't supporting them at that time just because of our bets.  ;)

It is always hard for people to bet against the club thinking of loyalty but as for me i don't see anything like that. If my analysis go against my club I will bet against them to win my bet.even as a die fan I see money more important than the club I am supporting, in fact I am not a die fans  to the level that I will see way that I will make money and ignore it because of the  club  I am supporting.

This topic brings to mind a friend of mine who is a die-hard Arsenal fan. When Arsenal have match against Manchester city recently, he chose Arsenal to win the match, despite the analysis we conducted together showing that the match will favor Manchester City.he want ahead and still stake on Arsenal to win because he don't want to go against his club but he still want to bet match on the game,but I view that as madness.

That's why I don't think too much about loyalty when I find opportunities with opponents who are not favored against my favorite team, while for opponents with very high odds there's nothing wrong with seeking luck there because we know that not always our favorite club will continue to win, sometimes it often happens. lost to a bottom-of-the-table club by surprise.

I also often bet when there are opponents from favorite clubs with very high Odds, usually when the favorite team has won a tournament or has been confirmed to qualify for the preliminaries, sometimes the favorite team often plays not seriously so they may experience a surprising defeat, if there is an opportunity there is such a moment why not me to try it .

Well, if we see them struggling, then that would be a good scenario to bet against them, right? In the first place, placing a bet shouldn't be subjective, so if you find them having bunch of disadvantage over their opponent(s), you should take that chance to win. Gambling is not a way to showcase one 's support for club, team, or anyone in sports.

It depends if you are profit-oriented and you are willing to sacrifice you're being a fan, when an opportunity is presented to you, why not take it its not every day you have an opportunity to make a profit but the opposing team should be an overwhelming favorite to beat your favorite team.
And you must let not anyone knows that you bet against your favorite team, or your friends will mock you for betraying your favorite team and they cannot call you a die-hard fan anymore.

Yes, some fans are willing to sacrifice for their favorite team and even go so far as to bet and defend their team. But it's true that if they place a bet on the opposing team, they must hide it from others. And that's where we need to be wise in playing gambling so that it won't harm anyone, including us. Maybe it's better not to place any bets on our team or vice versa. And it will depend on each person's goals when they see their favorite team playing.

Being an die-hard fan of any football club has never put food on my table or money in my wallet. But my love for the game through sports betting has. Then doesn't it make sense that I follow the path where I find a little bit of happiness and money doing it? Yes, sure it does. The world has some of the finest footballers that has lived and they are making history but then since they are doing what they do and are making money from it, why shouldn't I? Well, this is why I don't fan any club. I banter with friends, draw analysis and that's all. I bet for fun and see it more as a form of entertainment and not as a money making scheme.

Everyone is completely different, so it is normal that one soccer fan will never bet against his team, while another can easily do so. Each of us has different priorities - for some it's devotion to their team, and for others it's an opportunity to win money to have a good time with friends. So I can understand both. Personally, I bet against my hometown team when I realized that the team was significantly weaker due to an injury to one of its forwards. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.   

I usually avoid betting on my favorite team because gambling is about mathematics. Emotions shouldn't be involved in gambling. If you let your emotions make the decisions then you will make lots of wrong decisions and these wrong decisions will results in money loss in the long run. When you are dealing with money, you should be emotionless like a robot. That rule applies to trading as well. If you fall in love with an asset and refuse to sell it no matter how bad it performs, then you will suffer great losses.

You're not getting a lot if you're betting against your favorite team where you are a die-hard, so I'll just skip it and just cheer for your favorite team there will be times when my favorite team will build up so I can continue betting for them if you're betting against them it's like betraying your loyalty to the team, you are not a die-hard fan in a real sense, you're just a casual fan.

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If it's just for the money and entertainment, I don't think there's something wrong with betting against your favorite team. There are a lot of benefits to it too! The mere fact that it allows you to stay grounded and not embody being a die-hard fan of your team is already a big plus that will save you a lot of upfront discussions against other die-hards. Plus the indispensable advantage of knowing what your team can and cannot do is also in your hands, allowing you to make a clearer judgement on whether the team they will be playing against is good or not.

lastly, if the enemy does win the loss of your favorite team wouldn't hurt that much! Cause at least you got money from it! So it's not like you're not getting much from this ordeal, in fact you're getting a lot from just deciding to bet against your favorite team.

I can support my club and always wish them well to win every match they play for that is what makes a fan proud to talk about his or her club anywhere and amongst friends..

But when it comes to betting, that is getting money involved, I won't hesitate to bet against my club if I am very sure they are playing against another club that they might not be able to beat..

It's a simple analogy, my club consists of players who are earning money weekly or bi-weekly, they don't know who I am, they don't even know I exist, what exactly is the reason why I should deliberately loss my money for them?

I can support my team and cheer them to win, but when it comes to money, I am most careful how I invest it, if I know my club is likely not going to win a match, I will gladly bet on the opposition, money is not easy to come by, so there is no room to waste it.

If you feel like you are betraying your fav team, just don't bet at all.

Gamblers look at it differently because often times they don't have favorite team. They analyze probability of which team could win. They take side to whoever has the chance of winning. I would say they are more fan of the sport than a fan of a team.

Different people have different opinions about this, of course. Like, I believe that my loyalty towards my team will always be there no matter what, but if I know that the team we are playing against is very balanced and has got everything to win and we haven't been performing so well throughout the season. I will of course still cheer for my team and hope that they win, but if the odds are good, I might place a bet on the opponent.

I believe finances should be kept aside from your emotion or from things you are emotionally attached to, it's the rule of a business or anything that you do to earn money, you simply do that without having any feelings for anything or else you won't be able to earn money.

Depends on the person's perspective because there is actually no rule that says about prohibiting in gambling against your favorite team especially if you are a die-hard fan of them but others will say the opposite because that it's just an unwritten rule as that is one of the factors of being a loyal to your club. Although for me, all sides have a point but I put my gambling and support in two different things. So in plain answer, yes, I will bet against my team especially if there are times that their chances are not that strong and this kind of scenario has already happened to me before, just like in NBA.

I do bets even if the odds aren't good or I know that the team that I support isn't in good shape in support of them. But this is just happening for sometimes when I think that I'm okay to lose money. I am not die hard as the others but that's just a way for me to support a club or team that I really like. It's not that a lot of money to lose and could just be a snack amount but, it's a way for me to show I like these teams but I'll never go beyond that with an amount that I can't afford to lose.

I get you as I'm also doing that, sometimes, when watching a game I place some bet even I fully know that my team might lose the game but I still place my spare money to show some support and also to add some entertainment while watching the game, but like you, it's just a spare amount, some money that I'm willing to let go for my entertainment.

Not really a fan of being a heavy gambler where throwing huge amount just to support the team that I'm idolizing.

Interesting question.

I am a fan of Arsenal and Barcelona, ​​and when one of these teams plays a game, for example against a strong team like Manchester City. maybe I still bet on Arsenal, even though the probability of winning is not as big as City. however, because this match is a match that concerns the team we like. automatically, we will support the idol team. however, there are more ideal ways to bet. at least, bookies provide some options. well, we match the choice with the situation of the team. or, betting with ospi handicap, Over/Under, both teams to score, and all kinds available. why, yes, we have to be realistic. Even though in football anything can happen, that doesn't mean we will let our money just disappear by betting without calculation, analysis and all kinds of things.

Especially if we refer to your post, United vs Chelsea. in theory United is superior to Chelsea, because the two teams have quite a different gap. United is experiencing a positive trend, while Chelsea is in a downturn. to prevent us from losing money on betting, there are many options available. Or, better yet, don't bet at all.

Yes.

It's all about how much you've got. You can do whatever you want with any amount on your pocket whether to bet it for your favorite club or to their opponent.

Nobody really cares unless you're part of a circle of truly die hard fans of your favorite clubs/teams and you tell them that you never bet for that club. They might mock you but who cares, it isn't their money and you're the one taking the risk.

That's why let's just go with the reality and people shouldn't care as well for other people's validation. I thought that it's just for some case but even in gambling which is another personal matter, everyone shouldn't intidimated such as betting for your likes or not.

After all, that is how we show our support and loyalty towards our beloved team. It may not be our national team or our own team that is directly connected to us but what can we do, it is the team where our mind is into. Even though there are some times that their chances are not that strong, we are still supporting them from betting in favor of them and putting our little contribution towards them. Anyway, it's not a big deal even if I lose the bet or not, after all, it is my way to entertain myself and to show my support especially if a fellow kababayan is playing or fighting in other sports.

A difficult choice. I think it mainly depends on how serious you are about gambling and how much money you have to bet. When it comes to a serious amount, I think the money takes precedence. But there are so many options to bet on and so many clubs to bet on, so why pick a match where you bet on your own team or bet against your own team? That is playing with the devil according to the proverb. I don't think that would be nice to watch if you have a bet against your team? You want them to win and then you don't.

That's true, I know people that do feel the same way understand that it's not about gambling anymore. As we're like to expect that these bets are set to lose and it's okay since it's not a lot and it's like a spare change that we have. While I understand that some people will say that people shouldn't bet when they're not comfortable of the teams they're betting. Yeah, but it's not about that but the support that we give them mentally and with this little actions that we do.

As long as we're not going to be hit badly by that amount, they're normal and there's nothing to worry about such. We do idolize and we do support and losing a bit is always part of gambling and that's okay as we've said that it's like just a show of supporting them and having some great entertainment.

It depends on who the match is fixed with... Who would ever prefer to lose his funds for the fact that he loves his club so much?? I thought we only gambled to win?? So how about when you're seeing a serious losing game and you keep wagering on them cus it's a big club playing against your lame club?? Would that change the fact that your team losses if they had to?? No!
But on the other hand, there's always this relief and less-anxiety when staking in favour of your club - but that's only when you're sure they'll win... Maybe when they're made to play with a club in the relegation zone etc ...lol. thirdly, it also depends on Which team you become a fan of.

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Maybe in some of their matches, if the team they're up against is overall better and I see them struggling, then there's no need for me to hesitate in betting against them (as long as the odds are good to bet on). As a gambler, you don't always find matches that can be seen as an easy win, and there will be a day when your team will be involved, so there's no need to avoid them just because you're a die-hard fan. I respect those who don't, but when I see a good opportunity in front of me, then i'd always take it than just watch the game.

fortunately, i'm not a big fan of Chelsea lol, i myself am a fan of Man Utd and Madrid but when Man Utd was in a bad phase ^{(like a few months ago when there was no change to the MU squad)} i never bet against MU but decided not to take bets for the time being, if it's related to MU, but it's different with Madrid, i always follow all bets related to Madrid because Madrid's performance was very satisfying even though they failed to win from man city in the UCL semifinals.  In general, you are not a loyal fan if the bet you make is against your favorite team.

I am personally Galatasaray fan here and Galatasaray is very close to win championship title. At this point I wouldn't be able to bet against them. In at least 5-6-7 football matches I expected them to win all. They actually lost once and could lose advantage even. In other words I was biased when measuring potential of my team and quickly made some decision mistakes. I rather leave their matches alone so.

The answer actually depends on your reasons why you are betting. So answers will vary for each gambler. Because if you are there to actually support your team, man. regardless of whether they win or lose you will support them. But if it does mean losing your funds, do not risk your money knowing that you are giving it away. You can give your support in many other ways. If loyalty is a great big deal for you, you won't bet on the other side. BUT if money is more important to you, and based on your analysis the other team will win, you can make a large sum of money in there. Again it all depends on the reason why you are betting in the first place.
Are you there to give your support or are you there to make money? All still are your choice.

I make more bets against my favorite teams than any other team for any sport period.  The reason is simple, I know my teams better than I know any other teams. So I know their strengths and weaknesses and I can capitalize on that. It’s foolish to not want to bet against your own team if you believe with certainty they are going to lose and by more than the spread or money line.

Bet with your head, not your heart.

Isn't it a captivating puzzle, the collision and fusion of the gamble and the fan club, as unpredictable as a cryptic cipher? It's an intriguing ballet of practicality and fervor, correct? From a purely pecuniary angle, betting on a guaranteed victor seems like unlocking the right cryptex. But, is sports fanhood just about logical combinations?

Your observation sets off an engrossing discourse on the dichotomy of emotions and decisions. Pragmatism would urge financial prosperity, yet an emotional pledge to a team might direct our compass elsewhere. A perpetual enigma of mental push-and-pull between the chambers of heart and brain.

Let's not forget the moral riddle of wagering on a game presumed to be 'rigged.'

Any serious minded gamblers should even know that there's nothing to die hard for in gambling or for the team you supported because at the end of the day, you're not being recognized by them and your opinion on their activities is never welcome, counted or recognized, why then should one go extremely being too emotional to that extent for just a supporting team, we have to better position our thinking and reasonings in other for them not to affected our mental health balance while gambling, this is more of being logical than been reasonable at your own expenses in giving your team a considerable honour at your own risk even when you need not to, to me that's not loyalty but stupidity.

Why not? Gambling is not about supporting your favourite sports or football stars, it's about making money, so yes I can bet against my favorite club, when it comes to making money it is far different from supporting what I like and love, two different things entirely.

It's same reason why some football clubs and few other sports make more money when they lose a match, they already took a deal and the deal becomes a success only if they lose a match.

Never ever trust anyone when it comes to money, because anything is possible with money, even the law can be meddled with if the offer of the money is very good, what was once impossible can become possible in a blink of an eye, all because of money.  

I quite agree with your take on this. It's not like I'm being paid to support them that I have to stay loyal to them. Being a fan doesn't mean I'd pass up on the opportunity of making money from betting against them! It's a hard no. No hard feelings, it's just business  ;D

So it depends on the perception of each of us. We could just place a bet for our team against another team, but I think it would be a waste of money, especially if we know that the opposing team is stronger than ours. Maybe it's better not to be a fanatic supporter, making us more flexible in choosing a team to bet on. We can also tell our friends that we are not die-hard fans willing to do anything for our team, so they won't make fun of us if we choose not to bet on our team.

I'm not going to mix up support for my favorite club with betting. This means that I will sort out between Manchester United fans in betting.
When Manchester United plays a club that incidentally has strength above them and has the potential to find it difficult to win, I will place a bet on the over or under odds.

For example in the last game Manchester United vs Fulham. I analyze that Fulham can score goals at Old Trafford because their game can make it difficult for Manchester United. In the end my bet won because it was bet on over 2.5.
My other bet yesterday was on the Chelsea vs Newcastle United match, I lost because I bet on Newcastle's win, including choosing to win Manchester City, which failed at Brentford.

to be honest, I gamble using logic, not with feelings, so I bet on all the teams that I think have the potential to win based on the odds and so on

the purpose of gambling people is to make a profit, not bad luck, but I respect people who love to death with the football team they idolize

When it comes to financial gain, then of course it's fine to bet against your own favorite team. But I don't because I don't have to force myself to bet against my own team even though I know they are not the favorite in a match. However, it still makes sense for whoever you are to bet against your own team if you believe they will lose in one match.

I just want to ask, are you betting on Manchester City win because they are the favorites in the FA Cup final against Manchester United. Are you sure to fight against your own team or just enjoy the match without betting?

I am a Liverpool fan and no matter how they perform I am always with my club that's as a fan. When I am gambling then obviously my favourit team always get the benefit of the doubt but when it's obvious that my team is not in good shape and going to lose the match, I don't bet for them. I have gone against Liverpool many times even on the EPL pool.

It does not always work for me and I tend to lose my bets all the time LOL

We should really know on when to bet and when we shouldn't if we are really that minding that much when it comes to financial losses or losing money literally. Its not really that necessary on taking up a bet specially

if we do see that our favorite team is really that in problem or disadvantage.Pretty sure OP is really pertaining with that much and same goes into those other sports which are on the same situation where
we know that there are favorites and there's really the opposite. We arent really that dumb enough for us not to be able to determine which one is really that the favorites and which is the underdog.
If it turns out that your favorite team on the underdog side then for sure there's really that kind of frustration but supporting it would be unlikely unless if you are really that a die hard
which you do stick on betting on them even if you do see that chances of winning is slim because you are really that hoping deep inside that there would really be some possible upset.

Overall it would really be just depending on a certain individual on how he would really be handling out this kind of situation yet its our money then its our full rights on what are the things that we should do.

Loved this! 8) You got some straight facts right there mate and I literally view the same way as you are.

Reason is simple enough though, in any give time or day that my favorite team will play regardless of the sport, I'm always open and available to the fact that I could bet on the opposing team especially if I know that my favorite team is not literally equipped to defeat the opposing team. Being a sports fan doesn't not always mean that we should bet towards them even if we already know their chances are not that strong. I'm here to gamble for some profits and not some losses for the sake of supporting the team.

I wouldn't have a problem betting against a team I was a fan of if the odds warranted it.  I don't think it's a sin or anything.  That being said, I do think that betting on the team you WANT to win instead of the team you THINK will win has it's own advantages.  It adds a little extra enjoyment when your team wins, and gives you skin in the game to cheer for your team.  So I guess it depends if you're in it for entertainment or to make money.  I personally gamble for entertainment, but I can see the benefit of betting against your team and taking the approach that you win no matter what happens.

I understand where you are from as am also a Manchester united die hard fan, and have been faced many times with a condition where I would have to wait for Manchester united to actually win to decide my bet but I would rather just go a cash out when I know fully well that they can deliver a win in that game.

Good point though sometimes I still prefer to bet for my supported team, hoping that they will come up and upset their opponents, but it's logical that it's a waste of money if you really know and you fully understand the edge of the opposing team. But again, it will have different opinions and different take in terms of the reason why there are gamblers who are willing to spare some money and take the high-risk bet to support or to show how die-hard they are from the team that they are supporting.

For some people who are fanatical supporters of their idol team, it would be taboo for them to make bets against the team they idolize. however, that doesn't mean we will suddenly bet on our favorite team without looking at the strength of the opposing team. there are various options provided in terms of betting, we can even choose a way that is not against our own favorite team. however, it all depends on the gambler himself.

Maybe for you, it doesn't matter. but for others, they won't and I am no exception. usually, I wouldn't bet on my favorite team if the team they were facing was a stronger team. or maybe, I will choose another option according to what is provided by the bookies. In essence, every gambler has their own style and characteristics, including when betting on their favorite team. for me, there is a lot of fun in sports betting and it's not just a matter of making money. because after all, money can't buy pleasure. however, that doesn't mean we have to blindly bet on our favorite team even though we know the probability that we have is very small. which in essence, it all comes down to options and we can take advantage of them.

If you are a die hard fan then you would surely be sticking into a certain team which you do really support and if you do look or find that they do have a chance on making some upset then you wouldnt really be having no doubts on betting on them but on the time that you do see that they do have slim chance of winning but still choses up to support and bet on them then thats loyalty and there's nothing wrong with that since its your money then its your full rights on what you should gonna do as long it do makes you happy and contented then its better not to mind on what others would be saying about your bet. Dont bet
according into their preference but rather bet on your own preference and likings so that there would be no some sort of regrets in the end.

Betting games with odds is one of the things that makes some gamblers to lose their games but some of us will not agree with me, i believe that what we should have done as a gambler is that to calm down and watch some matches and perfect the players and the features of the two clubs playing before we make our predictions, clubs win matches because of the strength of players not by odds

Like one of the comment in the quotes say.. Bet with your head and not your heart.. Sincerely, I think it's one of the best advice based on what is being discussed here, and like I said in my previous comment, it still does not make any sense to deliberately loose money all in the name of being a die hard fan of a certain club, I think one way to snap out from such deception is to realize that the club you are supporting, the players still get paid whether they loose or win their games, so for me, taking a deliberate loss for a team I am supporting is a no no, it's more of a deception than reality.

To much is not good so we should be practical if there's money involve. There's really nothing wrong to bet on opponent side if this is the best thing to do and its just other people think about bad about it since they think you are not loyal to your team. People should know that the support is their but we should bet to the other team if we know that they have advantage at that time since in can increase our. Hance to take home some good cash if we win on our bets.

You might be a die hard fan of a club, it’s fine everyone is having club that he/she is supporting, but when gambling, you shouldn’t fall in love with any club, make sure you gamble on a neutral ground, even your club shouldn’t be your favorite. Just do your analysis and bet on any club you think will win, if you keep on claiming that you are a die hard fan of a club, you will be the one that will keep on losing if the club loses and the players will get paid even if they lose, so it will only affect you.

Let take a look at Chelsea, if you have been gambling that Chelsea will win every week because you are a die hard fan of Chelsea, am sure the person will only win little amount of money, or let’s assume Manchester City and Chelsea is playing, we all know that Manchester city will win but you went ahead to bet on Chelsea to win, you are the one that will lose and Chelsea players will be paid.

When is comes to gambling I don't see anything wrong in betting against your favorite club, to me is something you'd benefit from and if you look at it this way, the club you support have players who are being paid weekly and imagine you betting against them to get a huge sum of money won't you do it even if it's ones to go against you lovely club, won't you? To me yes is the answer.
Hehe, is funny when I saw my brother and his friend praying for Arsenal to draw, that's the club they support but as we all know, money has a way of changing ones mindset.
So I feel if the money involved is super huge, I see nothing going against your favorite club.

Well, in a case like this, I usually avoid betting on my club, and that’s because in reality I want my club to win even when it's obvious that their opponent is most likely to beat them

If I bet on chelsea to lose, my mind won’t be at rest, and  I’ll feel bad if they eventually lose, just that my bet will enter so the joy isn’t complete

On the other hand, if they surprise me by winning the game, my bet is going to cut and my joy won’t still be complete

So yes, I just ignore chelsea on my bet, so in that case, anything that happens won’t really affect my mood

I can't put myself in a place of a die-hard fan because I've never been one but I watch some football and bet on sports and I'd bet against players and fighters that I like if I knew they're performing poorly or are on a loosing streak.

I like them and but a bet is a bet. If someone told me they want to bet against the team that I like and I knew the team is not doing good I wouldn't take the bet either.

My betting persona and fan persona are two different things. I do not mix them up. When money is involved, I keep my emotions outside and get down to business. I will bet against my club if I know they'd now perform well and when is time to support them against other weaker teams online I will lead the from the from in the banter battle. No hard feeling. They are all forms of entertainment and we do it just for the fun of it. I even remember changing clubs several times when I noticed that despite the team's poor performance in the season, the management of the club seem very indifferent about.

Well, not everyone thinks the same way, some people are too emotionally connected with their favorite teams or players that they won't even hear a bad word about them and will start arguing or even fighting if someone talks against their favorite, and you can easily guess or imagine that such a person will never bet against their favorite team even if they know their team might lose and they will make some money for that.

I personally don't see anything wrong in betting against a team that I actually support but I know that they are underperforming and the opponent is definitely stronger than the site I usually support, I will still cheer for my favorite but I will not mind placing a bet on the opponent if I think logically.

The bet I placed at that time did not lead to the FA Cup final.
I saw a chance for Manchester City to beat Brentford in the last Premier League game before the line-up was confirmed and my analysis is that they will win narrowly even though Pep will play a number of second-tier players.

Depends on the team to be against.
I often bet on the victory of my own team when they play against other teams.
I can say that I often enjoy the game while betting. There is a pleasure in itself.
Returning to the topic, I will differentiate betting matters by supporting your favorite team.

I want to ask you about the FA Cup final later. I'm just guessing you're a Manchester City fan. Are you pretty sure Manchester City can beat Manchester United or do you have doubts that Manchester City won't win?

So you won't always support your favorite team against a stronger team in any way. and this is a matter of betting related to money, of course it will prioritize which team will win absolutely. But if luck is still on the side of a team that we think is weak, it's a miracle that can't be predicted.
The most important thing is to enjoy the game and support your favorite team, win or lose is normal. Make bets wisely and make sure you bet with confidence at the start so you don't regret it.

Yes, exactly and I feel the same way because I seriously don't think that being a fan will automatically require us to vote and bet on them even if it is almost clear already that they are not that capable to defeat their opponent in any given situation. Me being as a fan is just a neutral kind of fan, where I don't do that much thinking whether I should weigh some things just because I love the team, and as always, I have my own analysis and because I know them and what they are capable of, I'm pretty sure that I know whether if their chances are good or not.

Yes. This is what I like (enjoying the game and supporting my favorite team).

Supporting your favorite team in any situation and condition in the form of a game is something that everyone, including us, definitely does.
In fact, I rarely even miss my favorite team's matches when they compete with any team.
And as you said, of course I separate the matter of bets (money) because talking about bets is talking about odds. :)

I am supporter of a football club but not really a die-hard fan. I am very happy when "my" club wins but it's not like my whole life is about football or something like that. I am not betting regularly, i only bet from time to time when i have some spare funds and i just want to place a bet again. When i bet, then i have no problem to place a bet that is against my team. I even see it as something positive. Let's say my club plays against some other club and i bet that the other club wins. So now i have something to be happy about when my team wins and when my team loses. The only total loss there would be a draw.

If it's only about supporting I better do it by cheering them inside the Arena. They can feel this then if you will only place a bet towards them in a Sports Betting site. They can be able to see if who is being favored by the public but it does not mean that all of those people are doing it as a way of supporting their idols.

I think most of them are only betting for that team thinking it will win and then they can earn a profit. If in case my favorite team is playing, maybe I will still stop betting for a while or I will just place a bet on other games, so that I won't have any hard feelings. I will still watch my team play in the television. Yes, this is the only thing that I can do because I don't like to travel and watch live games.

If the opportunity comes from the opposing team, then we have to think using the gambling brain, who is worth betting on, he will get his place. But maybe the number of bets I will use is less than what I usually use, because I also support my favorite team. and there are two advantages, when the favorite team loses then we will get a win from the bet, but when the favorite team wins we will get pleasure. That's fair enough isn't it and won't stress us out.

In these cases it is difficult to separate the reason from the heart, and it is the duty to be, and personally I have never done it, well, only one day I tried to do it and I couldn't, I bet on my team even though I was going to lose, but it was my team from the national team, it is impossible for one to bet against the country one was born in, so that is why I say that it is very hard to separate reason from the heart, of course that is what makes us human and every time better , but sometimes when it comes to money we have to have an iron reason and see things in a more fair and technical way, it is difficult, but I have not been able to achieve it.

Why not? As long as there is a good reason to bet against my favorite team, I'll do it. Become a fan of a specific team does not mean that we should always bet on them. Gambling and being a fan should be separated, if we do bet on our team just because we love them and we do not care about the probability, I will say we are taking the wrong way. I will even suggest you to avoid betting in the matches of your favorite team.

True, as long as the probability is high why not because indeed in this case even though we are fans of a club but of course when talking about gambling it is clearly a little different.
Problems that occur because of doubts may still be possible because there really is a condition where we can have doubts about betting, but once again we must be able to distinguish that gambling and enjoyment of a club are different things, so these cannot be compared.
But in this case, if I really have doubts about the bet, then I would rather leave the bet than I have doubts about it.

It's okay to bet on your favorite team as a form of support for them. And as for the bet amount, I think it depends on each of us because some use small money bets and some don't. However, to bet or not, it will come back to us. I don't bet for my team when their odds are not good against the other team but I will just watch the game and for me, it's a support for them even if they don't know I'm backing them.

If you are a really die-hard fan (no matter how much you are into them), then I think it is not best to bet on the opposite team, but as a gambler, favoritism is not included unless you want to lose because you bet to win for that money, and if the odds or if the other team is stronger than your favorite team, then there is no choice but to bet on the stronger one because we know that our chances to win are huge. I am not a fan of football, but I do really like basketball, and when I don't bet,  that is when I become a die-hard fan, but if I do bet, I do choose the team that has higher chances.

It's never a good idea to wager on your favorite team since Favoritism comes into play. Favoritism has been the order of the day, with gamblers betting blindly merely because they support their clubs, and never betting against their clubs owing to rising beliefs. There is no time to start debating whether one's club will win or lose; I do monitor the odds, and the team with the best odds has the winning odds in my bet slip. The aim is to be on the winning side at the end of the game. Of course, I support my club in every game, but when I know they have no chance of winning against their opponents, I place my wager in their favor. I'm a big fan of football, and also a Chelsea fan.

The emotion that we feel in our hearts is I think much stronger than the reasoning made by our mind. So just go where your heart says. I see that you lose your money but at least you are true and you support your country's very own team.

Even if they came up as a loser, they will still be a winner in your eyes because you know that they try their best to make your country proud. Not all people are the same. Some are not like you who don't see money as everything, so they can be able to bet on the opposing team because they think they are much stronger. They will never feel guilty about it but they will only regret once they made a wrong choice.

Naturally, if you are an avid fan of one club, it doesn't make sense to bet against your own favorite team, especially if you are a fanatical fan, of course you will always defend the club, whether in a match that you lose or win, but indeed If in gambling we find a high probability of winning against our favorite team, of course that is a wise thing, because the orientation is the profit generated, I think it is even more necessary to choose a club that has a higher chance of winning than forcing a bet on the team we like but the probability of winning is very small.
I also often do that.

That's right, because there are still several betting options that gamblers can take, not only on team wins.
This is a choice that gamblers can make without having to choose another team that they don't like.
But usually someone who really gambles for money never thinks about choosing which team they like because the main goal is to make a profit so they only focus on the opportunities that exist.

You are like me who sometimes choose Asin Handicap bets or some other options to get a chance to win without having to fight the team I like.

With a gambler who are aiming for money, it's not important to bet whether it's their favorite team or not, as long as they see good opportunities and the odd is decent they will take that in hope that they will win the bet. But with those casual gambler who wanted to bet while watching, it can add excitement and enjoyment if the team that they love are performing and the bet have a better chance to win.

You always have a winner and a loser if such a situation were to arise. But it's also a moral thing, why gamble against your own team that you're a fan of? There are many games that you can bet on. If you are going to bet on your own team, bet on a win on your own team or at least on a positive market of this match. Betting on the opponent is actually asking for trouble in advance if you ask my opinion. I don't think many gamblers would do such a thing either.

I place a bet according to which team has a better chance to win the match. Even though I'm a Chelsea fan, I will never bet on Chelsea if they are against Man City or Man United. The chance to win against these teams is almost zero (0).  ;D  So, when it is about betting, I don't care about my favorite team. We should understand that betting requires some money, so the result is necessary. In this matter, we must feel more realistic, we can't force betting based on our loyalty only.

Sometimes it's really hard to bet against my favorite team but money matters. Depends on how juicy the odds are, I might bet against my favorite team as long as it's reasonable to do so. In case the odds are favoring my criteria and it happened to be with my favorite team, I will go that way.

I admit that even though there are times I understand the risks that my favorite team is on the verge of losing in their upcoming match, I risk some money on them thinking of the possibility that they might turn the game upside down and upset the considered favorite team in that match.

If that happened, a good profit is waiting but not always the case that I will repeatedly be doing it.

Am not really a fan of gambling and of course a true fan of a football club would always give support to their club whenever they're having a match but on the other hand I would only be against the Club I'm supporting if they're underperformed or playing against a tougher and stronger team capable of beating them home and away, let's say I'm a fan to Leicester City playing and they're playing against a team like Mancity or Arsenal I won't risk my money on that knowing they're palying such tougher opponets.
 I'll only support them if there performances  in that particular season was great just like (2016) when they won  the premier league.

 it would be more painful if I decided to risk betting on my team to win and they lost so I'll avoid taking the risk. It falls back to their performance the better their performance the more I'll be willing to risk on them hence I'll bet against them if they ain't equal to the task.

Ideally, in betting especially football we have to be realistic. if we want to win at a gamble, the first thing we have to do is put our ego aside. for example, like the cases we discuss in this thread. if the choice is not ideal, you should not force yourself to bet on our favorite team. things like this, usually will lead us to defeat. for example, Chelsea vs Manchester United, or against City. considering the state Chelsea is in right now, it's the same as us betting our money on defeat. despite the fact, in football anything can happen.

Well, in terms of betting.  we should be neutral gamblers, I mean put aside the favorite team. even then, if the available odds are ideal and the probability of winning is greater than the opposing team. it could also, we ignore it and not involve the gamble. at least, I do that if my favorite team is going up against a tougher team.
For example, Arsenal vs City. even though playing at home, the probability of victory that Arsenal has is smaller than the opposing team. ideally, I wouldn't bet if I doubted Arsenal's win. or, I can choose the Under/Over option.

by the way, we agree with what you said.

It is not always our favorite team that is more powerful than another team; it is like they are very strong this year, but next year they are very slow and difficult to win games. Our loyalty is for sure still the same; we are fans of them and we support them. Like in the last NBA finals, which the Nuggets won, there are tons of people I've known who bet on them, but they are also fans of the Heat, which even though they still lose, they still support that team. But when it comes to money or gambling, that is another thing.

Some individuals see gambling as the way to ending their instability in finance but I see it as a means to add extra money to my pocket. What drives our gambling conduct? We obviously want to be able to make a considerable amount of money. As long as the opponent is heavier and has a better chance of winning, I can bet on my club to lose. My club is never an excuse for me to lose a game; instead, my goal is to meet the multiple or quadruple seizure of my deposited capital. For example, Chelsea's performance this season has been abysmal; I can't count how many times I've bet against the Blues while being a fan.

You can see the situation so that you can be categorized as a wise gambler. Not many gamblers like you know what will happen and decide whether to bet or not. So, as you said, we must be realistic in betting and cannot be forced to bet, especially if we are in a difficult situation to predict who will win. We can choose not to bet when our favorite team competes with the opposing team but it turns out that the opposing team is very strong so the chances of winning are very small.

It is always good to bet with reason and not with the heart, sometimes we can say yes, that we will bet with reason, but due to adverse situations, sometimes we as humans get in the way of feelings, and sometimes feelings can help us. lead to victory or failure as the case may be, for example in a sport, in soccer we can be guided by our favorite team, even so if we bet against our team, because we see that it has many flaws, and that it is not very well, if we make the bet against and if the team wins? how will we stay? happy and sad at the same time...it's an ugly feeling, I don't know if anyone has experienced it.

On the contrary, many bettors make a bet against their club in order to sweeten the bitterness of defeat a little in case of failure.
Personally, I can say about myself that although I am a fan of some clubs, I am not a fanatic, so for me there are no problems making any bet - I separate these two activities for myself.

Betting with reason will let our mind accept the losing/winning the bet. When we place our bets on the favourite and lost, it'll be hurting as the match is lost along with the betting amount. When placed based on performance we could win against our favourite, losing the match might make you sad while the winning of bet keeps you prepared for the next bet. However not everyone does it, even myself used to go with the favourite team amidst the low winning chance. This gives kind of feel, that we're supporting the team in some way and the same keeps as hopeful that our team will win.

Let's just admit that no matter how die hard fan you are when you're in need of money and you know the odds are favoring and you've got a sense on who's gonna win.

It won't matter to you that you're a die hard fan and you'll even have to reason out to yourself that this is just one-time thing but you'll still be a fan of theirs.

Well, we can be sure that there have been gamblers like that.

It remains a nice situation if you have bet a considerable amount of money on your team or against your team. If you are involved in betting money on a team of your own, then perhaps you should bet it on a win or a positive market of your team. After all, you only have to hope for 1 team to win. I don't think it's nice to see if you have bet money on the opponent of your favorite team, then you still hope that the money wins and then your favorite team can suffer a defeat.

Sometimes in gambling, we don't have to be so idealistic. Indeed, we must continue to support our favorite club. But in my opinion, and what I think is, in terms of this betting, I will be more realistic. For example, at some point my favorite club is against a superior club and based on predictions, my club will lose, so it's better if I take another position, I don't have to always be at that club. Because sometimes, I need money more than my ego over fans of something. Is this wrong? However, I just want to be more realistic on this one. ha ha

You mean this season right!  ;D If you continue with this pattern, Chelsea will ruin your bets by next season because they are bouncing back with Pochettino best strategy that haven't been seen in EPL. Joke aside, betting doesn't have anything to do with emotion, it's all about how to win and win, your favorite doesn't comes when it comes to gambling, as long as they are capable of winning or making your predictions goes as plan, then that's a welcome idea. I have bet on my teams multiple times without number to win and yet they lost, I don't think there's anything wrong if I bet on them to lose the next time I try similar bet again, everyone bet to make money and not to become poor.

Even if someone is not a die-hard fan, no fan will be happy for other teams to beat the team they are supporting. Seriously, it will be hard to bet against your team as a die-hard fan because you never pray for your team to lose.
 
But I can still say that even some die-hard fans can still bet against their team once they are sure that the game will come and they will win the bet. This makes me remember one of my friends who may be die-hard Arsenal fans, but whenever Arsenal is having a match against Manchester City, it always stakes on Manchester City to win Arsenal, and it always happens. It has been doing that now for over two seasons now. So I just believe that the spirit of money can change someone easily.

Well, this is your opinion my friend, if this is what it takes to be a die hard fan, then I disqualify myself from being a die hard fan, what ever team I support does not pay me money, I work really hard to earn my money, It will be foolish of me to waste my money in such a manner, I honestly do not look at my favorite team when It comes to betting, I simply bet on the team I think has the potential to win the match, If the club I support is playing against another club, and the other club has a good potential to win the game, I simply bet for that other club, I put my money where it could bring me more money, money is hard to come by and shouldn't be wasted all in name of supporting a club, after all, If I bet for my favorite club and they win the match, they won't pay me, and neither will they pay me my money back if they lose the game.

Yes,  and I have tried to control that, because sometimes reason and intelligence are much better , because money is earned with intelligence , but when there are so many emotions and feelings it is difficult , I think I will never be able to do something like that, It's just that I know that they're going to lose the same bet in favor, it's like that sense of belonging, I wouldn't know how to explain it, but in all cases I think that people Around the world tend to be like that, they aren't capable of going against it. of his, because it is a betrayal and it is something that would not feel very good , Because as Humans our conscience will not leave us Alone.

actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation

This isn't about the spirit of money changing people but people knowing the right thing to do. Gambling is a business and you should try your best to always win when gambling. Don't intentionally sabotage yourself just to make your emotions fell alright, that's wrong.

Gambling should be done without emotion attached, an alternative decision you can take is not to gamble for that particular game. Keep the money for other bets since you know your team is going to lose but when you have the chance to make money on that bet, take the chances.

You should take that chance because those type of bet don't always come regularly when you see an opportunity to make money take it . You're not harming your favorite team by betting against them instead you're helping yourself to detach your emotions from your bets.

In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.

I don't really get your point.
Are you trying to tell us that betting on our favorite club is a bad habit? Or betting for entertainment purposes is the wrong way?  ???

There is nothing wrong with your nephew when he gambles for happiness. That is good, he doesn't chase the winning or being too obsessed with the prizes. But borrowing money for gambling is he bad idea, you should stop giving him money for gambling. If he asks to borrow money, you are better to explain to him that you only have money for daily needs. You must tell him that he shouldn't gamble with loan money for safe gambling. When a gambler uses loan money for gambling, it is no longer ideal gambling. Since the main purpose is for entertainment or happiness only, he doesn't need to force himself to gamble when he has no money.

You can help your nephew to gamble in a better way!

Even if he likes betting on his favorite team or understands how sports betting works, what he does is a wrong practice which is to borrow money from someone to gamble, and if he gets in the habit of that, it can be destructive for him in the future because he will later on start taking bigger loans only to gamble and if he manages to lose that money, he can get himself in big trouble that he might not be able to come out from.

So it's obviously better if you advise him either not to gamble or not to borrow money for it because borrowed money if lost in a bet will be a problem since he wouldn't be able to pay it off, now it's you he is borrowing from so he doesn't have much of a problem, but he will if the lender is an outsider.

When betting i don’t let my emotions take charge, nobody wants his team to loose but when the odds are not in favor of my team and in actuality i can clearly see it would be difficult for my team then i will have to bet against them but in most cases i often choose not to bet on the game, i skip that match because I can’t bear to see my team loose. But come to think of it, if the odds are against your team and you end up placing a bet against them and the outcome was positive, your team lost but you won the bet i don’t think you will be sad about the outcome. It happened to me once and i was not that sad because i have money to spend. Its just like someone pay you if your team losses.

I can't stand watching my team lose, and I can't gamble on them knowing full well that they can lose and jeopardize my chances of winning.Of course, gambling is about the best team winnings, but I don't care for my team because money must be generated in every instance. I'm never going to skip one of our games because the odds don't favor my favorite club, of which I'm a fan; those players make their money, and we just have to do the best we can with the alternatives. I would urged my colleagues not to beckon up their favorite clubs, they should do whatever it takes to be on the winning side.

Yes this, not only about football, in the context of this discussion can be associated with anything that does not have to be fixed on the football, sports such as volleyball, basketball and others are also still in the same line.
Yes basically we must be more realistic when we see the comparison between the team we enjoy and the opponent, because indeed in the process of gambling fanatical sentiment must be eliminated because it is if the orientation is the advantage in gambling.
As an example, I like the basketball team A who will face the basketball B team that has a different advantage from the team that I like (team A), if that's the one who picked up realistically I would choose team B to bet.

Sports betting is indeed not only on football because there are lots of sports that can be bet on.
But throughout the world, football has become the sport that most people enjoy, from small children to the elderly, regardless of background.
One thing that makes football betting develop and is always there everywhere because football always has matches every day and this makes it easier for bettors to choose which matches to bet on.

Being fanatical about a football team is normal because by being a fanatical fan they get a sense of satisfaction when the team they support wins, but I myself don't really care about being a fanatic or not because when betting, the most important thing is just determining which club can give me a chance for win.

Well , I really admire that , going against our team is something that at least costs me a lot , I think I Still don't have the heart to do something like that , However it's good to read all the Opinions and the truth is how they do so that have Clear thinking without involving Feelings, and that is what is Difficult for many , As I said before we will always have those Options but it is Difficult to take it, I Think that one way is to do it and then no longer see the Outcome of it , that could also be a Solution , Personally I think Things can Happen like this and try to Forget what was Done.

Let's be realistic here and be practical as well, even if the team i supported pays me being their fan i can still gambles against them to face the reality in case of situations that am very much convinced that their performance will not yield the expected results with the opposition they are facing being stronger than them, this is all about being straight forward ad accepting the conditions of how thigs appear without been bias, they are my team but i see them not being capable enough to make win on the bet am gambling with, i will rather let Justice rule than pretend and loose my bet

in simple terms that gamblers do not want to lose when betting in sports betting. right?
realistic thinking is important because even if we have a favorite team, we cannot lie to ourselves to benefit from the match or use other methods such as Asian Handicap. without the need for me to explain about Asian Handicap, of course we already know that we can bet on our favorite team, it's just a different way and still get an advantage.

I'm sure no one wants to bet on their favorite team when it's playing against another, stronger team.

I don't watch football matches that much, so I am unsure if this is the question for gamblers like me. But, sometimes, I place bets on cricket games. If you know your opponent's team is way stronger and your team is likely to lose the game, you can definitely place a bet against your team. But, if there is a 70% and 30% chance, still I will choose my team to place a bet. If the percentage is more than that, then I will not place a bet at all. But, if it's 90-10, there we go, buddy. I am sorry for my team. But make sure the amount is not too much so you can support your team as well. This is a win-win situation.

As a gambler I will never bet against my favorite team and the team I am a fan of. I have faith in my team that my team will never let me down. Be it cricket, football or anything else. From my real experience I bet against my favorite team in gambling and I lost. But if your team is weak then you can bet against your team and you won't let your money go too easily.

Most people imagine football is the one that people talk about, but when we start to talk about other sports that makes more sense to play against your own team. Like for example I am a big Spurs fan in NBA, san Antiono spurs not Tottenham one. And we have won 5 rings, that's a huge deal, not a lot of people have 5 rings, we have Duncan who did for example. This is why I believe that we are at a level where it is an elite team and unmatched by many other teams, only a few won more than us ever.

However, we suck right now, hopefully with Wemby we will do better, but all year long I have wagered against my favorite team, because Spurs never really won anything and I feel like it wasn't that hard to go against us, I knew we would lose.

You are so loyal, but maybe sometimes I will that thing as well but of course I will bet largely to the team that I am believing with and little amount to the other team . But I think , I did not  do these kind of team because like you I will support my fav team until the end, whether they are losing or what I will stick to that no matter what happens.

It actually depends in the gambler's perspective because at the end of the day, they are more as a gambler rather than just a fan who is afraid to bet against the team that they are a fan of. I mean, let's just be honest because betting against the team that we liked doesn't really mean that we are not that loyal to them because in the first place, that's not even a description of what a loyal fan would be.
We are here to bet and make money even if it means betting against them besides the entertainment we are getting as we surely don't want to be in the losing side just to be called loyal. Nobody will know, trust me.

Wow..you guys are die hard fans to your team I love that commitment and believe you have in your teams. I will bet against my team secretly, if I know that they don't have what it takes to win their opponent. I might be in love with my team but I wouldn't let that deprive me from betting against them for money,especially when I know very well that the probability of my team winning the game will smaller compare to the other team. Though,whenever our team is playing there is this emotional feeling that they should always win the game. Gambling is a game of luck and sometimes our perspective fails us.

Being a bettor and a loyal to your club or team is a two complete different things as there are no connections to begin with. I personally enjoys watching my favorite team and do some bet as well in their favor as long as I know that their chances to win are good as being a fan, I somewhat know what are their strengths and limitations, but if there's an instance that I don't see them winning, I just watch the game and skipped the betting as I know what is the likelihood of the outcome.

Fair point. I don't view betting on favorite team as a support because our bets doesn't reach them also betting against them is not a form of betrayal because you simply acknowledge your team wekaness over their opponent which we should knew very well because we are always watching their games and follow their performance.

We are betting to gain some money and not to support favorite teams. I will watch their games if I want to support them but not through betting because it's just a waste on betting to them while we know that the chance of winning is very low.

As a football lover and a club fan I will always support my club no matter who their rival could be,  for that's the spirit of fanship. Betting against my club does makes me feel some slight guilt inside as it's like I am never always there for a club I claim to support when they're playing against another team with no winning chance, only giving support to your club when they are at the advantage end doesn't show much of a die-hard fan you are. I place my bet in favor of my club at anytime not minding the odds. I only give attention to odds when it's not my club.

Ideally, if a true gambler would do his betting. they are well aware that as gamblers, they will put their emotions aside, even if it involves the team they are passionate about. why, so they can think from a neutral, objective point of view. plus, without any aggravating factors. after that, they will analyze it based on the insights and knowledge they have. if the choice is not ideal for betting on the team they are interested in, they will usually look at various other options. otherwise, they could just bet on the team that is more profitable for them. in essence, they will choose the more profitable option. that way, they will benefit from the gamble.

Unlike us, we ourselves tend not to bet if the opponents are above them. for example, Arsenal vs City. automatically, I would not bet on Arsenal even though it is my favorite team. because theoretically, City is far above Arsenal's level. except, I will have another option like Under/Over. or, I wouldn't bet at all. not really, to bet on City. in essence, all gamblers will do as they wish. in fact, not infrequently, even though a team is an Underdog team, as true fans they will happily bet on their favorite team. so, we will find various opinions on the questions raised by the OP.

Skipping that particular bet is the most respectful thing to do as it shows your loyalty to the club but football is evolving, there's no loyalty again in football. Players that ones who die for the clubs they're playing at no longer has that as if they get a higher salary they'll leave instantly.

We can see players now leaving a rival club to join another rival clubs and act like they don't care. Football has turned into a business so we can profit from our teams weaknesses without feeling guilty. Since you know your team very well, it just makes sense to use them in making money.

Betting against your favorite club doesn't make you less of a fan, it's just like you betting in favor of a rival club because you know they can win you your bet. it just means you're doing business and when doing business you go for the best decision that'll make you profits.

It would really be according into you personal point of views on which if you cant really afford on betting against on the team that you do like the most then its really just that true that it would be better to skip out such
bet or wouldnt really be making a bet at all. A true gambler or who does really mind off about making profits on gambling wouldnt really be something that would be sticking on a particular team even though it would really be their favorite but since they've seen that it is really that on disadvantage then it would really be normal that they would really be making out adjustments and would made out some counter betting.
If you are die hard fan then you would be making out those blind bets despite on being that too obvious on whose the favorite or would likely to win. It isnt really that bad on having that kind of behavior
because on the time that you do make out bets then you are pretty aware on whose likely to win and you have just bet according into your own interest and principle.

The thing is that, sports bets are not the same as other gambling games where players play for fun,  but in sports bets,  it's all about winning so is not for being a fan but for winning in the bets,  and if the team playing against your team is stronger and likely to win the match then the club will get my winning ticket because it far better to win the bet by selecting the other team instead losing it because you want to show solidarity to your team.

So for me yes,  I would pick a club that will win and not based on being a fan of the other and lose my bet.

what is more certain in this gambling is about winning and losing or wasting money or gaining profits. so that no one wants to bet on his favorite team but the opponent looks to win.

you are the typical realistic gambler that you don't think you want to waste your bet and still make a profit betting on the opposing team or the winning team. for me it is natural because gamblers don't want to lose their bet on their favorite team which has seen losing at the end of the game just wasting money and I myself will do the same thing.
I think most people here would definitely choose to bet on the winning team, not the favorite losing team.

Like everyone else a gamble does have a favorite team. Same woth boxing, they are fans of someone but if this fighter they like are matched to someone on the heavier rank, its another level. A gambler will weigh in his interest to make money than being a fan.

Those who will bet for Errol Spence I guess sees a different result but Crawford will be the champ of the people.

Then it means you're not ready to win whenever it's your club turn to play, you should reaalise that the fact that you're gambling is not to support your club but instead to either earn some cash or get entertained. A gambler should know when it's time to set aside their emotion an place a bet against their club rather than for the to keep consoling themselves after placing a bet in favour of their club when the odds vividly revealed that they stood no chance against their opponent.
If it happens that I have to place a bet against my club to win the bet I'm certain I won't have a second thought about it.

Yes, of course, I will also do things that always think of supporting the club that is supported, after all, if indeed the club that is supported is against a great club, I think you don't need to bet, it's more than enough, you don't need to bet on another club that is your opponent, even though in the end it's a club win against a club that we support, it seems that it feels bad to win a bet against a club that has been supported so far.

But unfortunately I'm not wrong to support the club as an example of Manchester City, they happen to be a club that is quite good in performance as well as the quality of their play is consistent in every match so I never bet on other clubs, just bet on Manchester City as the winner and to be honest during the UCL yesterday I am quite profitable betting for the clubs I support like Manchester City.  ;D

Your personal gaming tactics show an astute, cautious approach, yet it may not reflect the broader gambliing demographic's actions. The claim of a 'true gambler' being neutral and objective is debatable. Although the notion of a fully logical, analytical player is appealing, gambling is an emotional sport, often disrupting sound decision-making.

Yes, many punters back their beloved team, even when odds aren't in their favor. This underscores gambling's entangled web of emotions and rationality. Labeling a 'true gambler' as purely objective perhaps simplifies this complex matrix

But if we feel that we could feel guilty about making a decision, we should do nothing but just sit back and watch the game. There's still plenty of time to place a bet on another team, so there's no feeling of guilt. And it's better if we don't use emotions in placing bets because of that guilt. Maybe some will still place bets for the team as a form of support but some do not place bets so it will return to each person. Maybe skipping the match will make our hearts calm and not think about anything, especially guilt if we don't support the team.

I got my own team the im a die hard fan and i could never bet against them. Its just not in my blood even if i knew that my team was gonna lose the match or something i couldnt bet against them. This is just something that you cannot due if you are a die hard fan. In all my life so far i never betted against my own team and i never will . Its just not right to do

It makes sense and very realistic.
In real life or social media, we may show openly and continuously that we support our favorite club, whoever the opponent is and whatever the conditions are. In fact, sometimes we don't even accept the ridicule of our favorite club, especially when we lose. As a die-hard fan of a club, I will always support you with words and prayers.

but if it was in the world of gambling, it would be very different. In gambling, our main goal is to make money, so I personally wouldn't associate my favorite club, it's just more realistic to see the various opportunities whoever might win, that's what I'll stick to. Because, no one knows if I choose which club I will bet on, right? Hehehe

This thread reminds me of a piece of news that was broadcast in Colombia, some fans who always support their favorite team and they say that even if they lose they will always find support, I am surprised because that type of fanaticism is in the family, it is said, father , mother and children, they share the same love for their favorite team and that is something that I do not know if it is completely right, because they usually feel many mixed emotions when their team loses, and they do not see mistakes, one as a fan must know when our favorite team plays badly and the fact that they play badly should not be supported, because then where is the emotion? where the true meaning of soccer is, mediocrity in soccer can never be supported, the same fans should punish their team by letting them know, that has happened in my country, they casitagan the team by barring the other team and it seems incredible but they react and they play better.

Yes, if we draw it into the realm of gambling, then we will think realistically here, even though the club that will compete and will be the opponent for the club that we are betting on is our favorite club or our favorite club.
Precisely this is our chance to be able to increase our chances of winning the bet, because we will definitely know the strengths of our favorite club better and of course with everything we see which club has more potential to win the match. For me the best bet is our favorite club, whether it will be the club we will bet on or vice versa.

The orientation in my opinion is different sir, if only limited to fans who favored his team to form an emotional in personality is a natural thing, because it is a favorite team, and may be said that they are fanatical fans, it makes you someone who is not Caring about the defeat even though they understand the mistakes made by their favorite team, but rarely to make them stop supporting. I saw that when Dortmund fans learned that Dortmund was not the winner of the Bundesliga, but they were loyal to his team, and instead they felt proud even though the team he supported lost.
But it is different in the case of gambling, where the orientation is the advantage of the average person who bet, even though he has a favorite team, if his favorite team has a small probability, the option to choose is the opposing team of the favorite team.


This might be an indication of its own advantages in soccer betting, if the team that will take place one of them is a favorite team, it provides an easier analysis, we understand the weaknesses and strengths that exist in our favorite team and with that we only need to bend it and see the probability.

Information and acknowledged the fact that one's team is not strong enough to win an opponent is pure analysis and statistics. I'm a die-hard fan of my team, and I've never once placed a loss on them; instead, I'm always looking for enormous profits in the system. If I am convinced that my team will lose or has no chance of beating their opponent, I just skip that game since losing is not an option that we should consider. Betting against your favorite team is not the correct thing to do; it's more like being glad about their misfortunes. Betting against my club is never an option for me; I gamble, but it's impossible for me to support the opposing team.

I do not see anything wrong against betting against your club. Why would there be? If a fan is so devoted to the point where he thinks that idolizing a certain team makes him become part of a superior group of people. Basically nationalism but with loyalty to a team instead of a nation. Those kind of fanatics go too far and can cause real harm. No matter how much you love your team, unconditional devotion is plain stupidity. If there is a 100% certainty that your team is not going to do so well in the game, then you should bet on the team which you think will win.

Bet smart, not devoted.

Sorry to say but you're not a gambler. As a gambler your concern should focus on making profits and not allow your emotions to mix with your gambling. What if your team is the only game available to bet on that day? You won't bet at all? You need to be serious with your gambling life I must say. I see absolutely nothing wrong betting against your team if odds is against them. As painful as it will be, my pocket comes first. No love better than self love after all.

Common sense and probabilities, as simple as that, because first of all you have to be a fan of common sense and probabilities  ;)

I did a similar post years ago, and based on my previous paragraph if my favorite team is not too far in the odds I go with it and if they are too high or against, well common sense, there is no escape that justifies doing to right bet.

A very common approach on which if you do see there's a huge gap when it comes to odds then you wouldn't really be that dumb on forcing yourself to bet still with your favorite and its true that if the odds arent really that too far off  then i might really be having that consideration but if not then it would really just that common sense that you should really be betting out on which team or player athlete would really be most likely to win. You arent here on sticking yourself into someone just because you do like them but doesnt mean that you would be risking out your money even you do know that chances of winning is slim.
Yes, gambling should really be for fun but it wont mean that you do make yourself get blind just because you do like them.Even the situation or odds showing about those winning chances
are slim then it would be just right that you should adjust according to it.

I don't want to risk losing a lot of money by betting on my team when they are not performing well. It simply doesn't make sense. However if the odds are relatively similar such as my team being at @2.5 to win while the other team is at 2.2, I would definitely consider betting on my team to win the game.

My point here is that I won't bet on my team when I know there's no hope for them to win. But if there's a 50/50 chance or even a 30% chance for my team to win I'll definitely place my bet on my team. :)

But don't you increase negative emotions in the event of the defeat of your favorite team? Personally, this option seems unpleasant to me, although of course I understand that if my favorite team wins, plus I get additional profit for their victory, this is the height of bliss. But it seems to me that I already eschew too strong emotions  ;D

Common sense will always tell us the right thing to do even though we have enough funds to risk. Gambling is fun and anyone who see it like that can decide to bet on his club even though the odd shows that the opponent will win the game. Some fans will not want to accept the odds and will believe that the game will still change in their favor.

I know that any gambler who is after profit will not mind his club and will bet against his club if he is certain that his club will not win. I am a die hard fan of my club but I wouldn't bet on my club if I know that there is no hope for them in winning the game.

I don't know how peoole see and judge this things but I'm not even sure if your team might want to bet on themselves  if they're not doing well.
I've never been a die hard fan  of any club though  I have my favorite  club but that doesn't justify  the fact that I shoukd bet on my favorite  club when they're  far behind 😪.
I agree with you  Aikidoka and I might consider betting on my team if they have 50/50 probability not when the probability is far bow 30.
I personally  gamble to make some extra cash and not to support my team and I watch football matches if I want to support my team and not when the case is in messing money.

But there really indeed people who are really that extremely devoted or being that a loyal fan on a certain player or team on which despite of the disadvantage, they would really still make up those bets
which is absurd or you would really be having those questions on mind on how the heck they would really be still betting or they are just simply accepting their losses before the match begins?
Peoples mind is really that different to each other and thats why we do make out those kind of questions on which you dont know on whats their personal reason but well its their
money so its their right on how they should gonna spend it but in overall and just making use of your common sense then you would always go with the team which does have the high
chance on winning a certain match to make profits.

I usually do the same. I'm always objective when I try to play my bets. I don't allow sentiments or my personal interests to cloud my judgement. As much as I'd like my team to win, It's better to win a bet and compensate myself for my team's loss than to lose on all fronts. For me, anything less than a 60% chance, means I'm backing the opposing team to win. I was in an exact situation like this last season when my team was still struggling to get points, they went up against City and I backed City to win. Nothing personal, I was just being objective.

Aikidoka made a very good point, I was on the side of never losing money on my team if they are not doing well, and there is no hope for them to win, I never considered the true fact that there could be times when my team along side the other team could have a 50/50 chances of winning, or maybe in the worst case scenario, have up to 40 percent chances of winning the match, in such a case, I will surely bet on my team and cheer for them to win, but in any case a team I consider my fav has a below 40 percent chances of winning the match, I will seriously  not want to lose my money on them, supporting a club has never been a do or die affair, why should I lose my hard earned money on. Purpose in the name supporting a football club.?.

If you know your club then you are better placed to bet for or against them anyone else.  The big problem is staying impartial vs other teams prospects.   But if you know for sure they are just not performing even to their own best selves then what else can you do.    To justify this bet, put the money won in the team loss towards the next season ticket for that team.  They'll come around but sometimes it wont be until a full season has passed.  Its hard to stay impartial but I would never say never.

When the fight is between my team and a team team that have got little advantage over the favourite I'll prefer to bet on my team. I'm not sure of the win, but placing against my team will let me have a thinking of opponent to win the match. This ir not fair according to me, and for this reason most of my bets will favour the favourite team. There arises question, when the team loss the bet will be a loss and this will make you feel very bad. My bets won't be very big, and for that reason the loss won't hurt much, whereas the wins will be more enjoyable.