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June 22, 2023, 07:26:28 AM
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actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
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June 22, 2023, 09:00:38 AM
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But I can still say that even some die-hard fans can still bet against their team once they are sure that the game will come and they will win the bet. This makes me remember one of my friends who may be die-hard Arsenal fans, but whenever Arsenal is having a match against Manchester City, it always stakes on Manchester City to win Arsenal, and it always happens. It has been doing that now for over two seasons now. So I just believe that the spirit of money can change someone easily.

This isn't about the spirit of money changing people but people knowing the right thing to do. Gambling is a business and you should try your best to always win when gambling. Don't intentionally sabotage yourself just to make your emotions fell alright, that's wrong.

Gambling should be done without emotion attached, an alternative decision you can take is not to gamble for that particular game. Keep the money for other bets since you know your team is going to lose but when you have the chance to make money on that bet, take the chances.

You should take that chance because those type of bet don't always come regularly when you see an opportunity to make money take it . You're not harming your favorite team by betting against them instead you're helping yourself to detach your emotions from your bets.

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June 22, 2023, 09:20:33 AM
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actually I don't like soccer

In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.
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June 22, 2023, 10:47:58 AM
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actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
I don't really get your point.
Are you trying to tell us that betting on our favorite club is a bad habit? Or betting for entertainment purposes is the wrong way?  Huh

There is nothing wrong with your nephew when he gambles for happiness. That is good, he doesn't chase the winning or being too obsessed with the prizes. But borrowing money for gambling is he bad idea, you should stop giving him money for gambling. If he asks to borrow money, you are better to explain to him that you only have money for daily needs. You must tell him that he shouldn't gamble with loan money for safe gambling. When a gambler uses loan money for gambling, it is no longer ideal gambling. Since the main purpose is for entertainment or happiness only, he doesn't need to force himself to gamble when he has no money.

You can help your nephew to gamble in a better way!


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June 22, 2023, 12:09:19 PM
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actually I don't like soccer... I saw my nephew who likes soccer even he memorized the names of club players from everywhere. borrow money from me.. even though sometimes he often loses.. but like soccer gambling habits.. he doesn't think about the risks.. most importantly he feels happy and happy.. from that I can conclude that we must be able to control ourselves from habits gamble.. don't regret it later.. money can change someone's situation
Even if he likes betting on his favorite team or understands how sports betting works, what he does is a wrong practice which is to borrow money from someone to gamble, and if he gets in the habit of that, it can be destructive for him in the future because he will later on start taking bigger loans only to gamble and if he manages to lose that money, he can get himself in big trouble that he might not be able to come out from.

So it's obviously better if you advise him either not to gamble or not to borrow money for it because borrowed money if lost in a bet will be a problem since he wouldn't be able to pay it off, now it's you he is borrowing from so he doesn't have much of a problem, but he will if the lender is an outsider.

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June 22, 2023, 12:26:19 PM
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When betting i don’t let my emotions take charge, nobody wants his team to loose but when the odds are not in favor of my team and in actuality i can clearly see it would be difficult for my team then i will have to bet against them but in most cases i often choose not to bet on the game, i skip that match because I can’t bear to see my team loose. But come to think of it, if the odds are against your team and you end up placing a bet against them and the outcome was positive, your team lost but you won the bet i don’t think you will be sad about the outcome. It happened to me once and i was not that sad because i have money to spend. Its just like someone pay you if your team losses.

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June 22, 2023, 12:41:58 PM
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When betting i don’t let my emotions take charge, nobody wants his team to loose but when the odds are not in favor of my team and in actuality i can clearly see it would be difficult for my team then i will have to bet against them but in most cases i often choose not to bet on the game, i skip that match because I can’t bear to see my team loose. But come to think of it, if the odds are against your team and you end up placing a bet against them and the outcome was positive, your team lost but you won the bet i don’t think you will be sad about the outcome. It happened to me once and i was not that sad because i have money to spend. Its just like someone pay you if your team losses.
I can't stand watching my team lose, and I can't gamble on them knowing full well that they can lose and jeopardize my chances of winning.Of course, gambling is about the best team winnings, but I don't care for my team because money must be generated in every instance. I'm never going to skip one of our games because the odds don't favor my favorite club, of which I'm a fan; those players make their money, and we just have to do the best we can with the alternatives. I would urged my colleagues not to beckon up their favorite clubs, they should do whatever it takes to be on the winning side.

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June 22, 2023, 12:42:39 PM
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actually I don't like soccer

In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.


Yes this, not only about football, in the context of this discussion can be associated with anything that does not have to be fixed on the football, sports such as volleyball, basketball and others are also still in the same line.
Yes basically we must be more realistic when we see the comparison between the team we enjoy and the opponent, because indeed in the process of gambling fanatical sentiment must be eliminated because it is if the orientation is the advantage in gambling.
As an example, I like the basketball team A who will face the basketball B team that has a different advantage from the team that I like (team A), if that's the one who picked up realistically I would choose team B to bet.

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June 22, 2023, 01:56:00 PM
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actually I don't like soccer

In this context it may not only be soccer that is involved, we can include any sports or game in gambling, we al know how some fans could be as fanatic with the club or team they support and I think that's good on a real sense but when it comes to gambling, we don't have to bring a sentiment into it except if you have that assurance and confidence in their performance because here the reality is being unfolded in their performance and you wouldn't want to act silly supporting them knowing they could not perform well and your money also involved in betting.

Sports betting is indeed not only on football because there are lots of sports that can be bet on.
But throughout the world, football has become the sport that most people enjoy, from small children to the elderly, regardless of background.
One thing that makes football betting develop and is always there everywhere because football always has matches every day and this makes it easier for bettors to choose which matches to bet on.

Being fanatical about a football team is normal because by being a fanatical fan they get a sense of satisfaction when the team they support wins, but I myself don't really care about being a fanatic or not because when betting, the most important thing is just determining which club can give me a chance for win.

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June 23, 2023, 02:47:45 AM
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With a gambler who are aiming for money, it's not important to bet whether it's their favorite team or not, as long as they see good opportunities and the odd is decent they will take that in hope that they will win the bet. But with those casual gambler who wanted to bet while watching, it can add excitement and enjoyment if the team that they love are performing and the bet have a better chance to win.

Sometimes it's really hard to bet against my favorite team but money matters. Depends on how juicy the odds are, I might bet against my favorite team as long as it's reasonable to do so. In case the odds are favoring my criteria and it happened to be with my favorite team, I will go that way.

I admit that even though there are times I understand the risks that my favorite team is on the verge of losing in their upcoming match, I risk some money on them thinking of the possibility that they might turn the game upside down and upset the considered favorite team in that match.

If that happened, a good profit is waiting but not always the case that I will repeatedly be doing it.

Well , I really admire that , going against our team is something that at least costs me a lot , I think I Still don't have the heart to do something like that , However it's good to read all the Opinions and the truth is how they do so that have Clear thinking without involving Feelings, and that is what is Difficult for many , As I said before we will always have those Options but it is Difficult to take it, I Think that one way is to do it and then no longer see the Outcome of it , that could also be a Solution , Personally I think Things can Happen like this and try to Forget what was Done.

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June 23, 2023, 04:07:56 AM
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Let's be realistic here and be practical as well, even if the team i supported pays me being their fan i can still gambles against them to face the reality in case of situations that am very much convinced that their performance will not yield the expected results with the opposition they are facing being stronger than them, this is all about being straight forward ad accepting the conditions of how thigs appear without been bias, they are my team but i see them not being capable enough to make win on the bet am gambling with, i will rather let Justice rule than pretend and loose my bet
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June 23, 2023, 04:41:02 AM
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Yes this, not only about football, in the context of this discussion can be associated with anything that does not have to be fixed on the football, sports such as volleyball, basketball and others are also still in the same line.
Yes basically we must be more realistic when we see the comparison between the team we enjoy and the opponent, because indeed in the process of gambling fanatical sentiment must be eliminated because it is if the orientation is the advantage in gambling.
As an example, I like the basketball team A who will face the basketball B team that has a different advantage from the team that I like (team A), if that's the one who picked up realistically I would choose team B to bet.
in simple terms that gamblers do not want to lose when betting in sports betting. right?
realistic thinking is important because even if we have a favorite team, we cannot lie to ourselves to benefit from the match or use other methods such as Asian Handicap. without the need for me to explain about Asian Handicap, of course we already know that we can bet on our favorite team, it's just a different way and still get an advantage.

I'm sure no one wants to bet on their favorite team when it's playing against another, stronger team.

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June 23, 2023, 04:45:10 AM
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I don't watch football matches that much, so I am unsure if this is the question for gamblers like me. But, sometimes, I place bets on cricket games. If you know your opponent's team is way stronger and your team is likely to lose the game, you can definitely place a bet against your team. But, if there is a 70% and 30% chance, still I will choose my team to place a bet. If the percentage is more than that, then I will not place a bet at all. But, if it's 90-10, there we go, buddy. I am sorry for my team. But make sure the amount is not too much so you can support your team as well. This is a win-win situation.

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As a gambler I will never bet against my favorite team and the team I am a fan of. I have faith in my team that my team will never let me down. Be it cricket, football or anything else. From my real experience I bet against my favorite team in gambling and I lost. But if your team is weak then you can bet against your team and you won't let your money go too easily.
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June 23, 2023, 05:20:01 PM
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Most people imagine football is the one that people talk about, but when we start to talk about other sports that makes more sense to play against your own team. Like for example I am a big Spurs fan in NBA, san Antiono spurs not Tottenham one. And we have won 5 rings, that's a huge deal, not a lot of people have 5 rings, we have Duncan who did for example. This is why I believe that we are at a level where it is an elite team and unmatched by many other teams, only a few won more than us ever.

However, we suck right now, hopefully with Wemby we will do better, but all year long I have wagered against my favorite team, because Spurs never really won anything and I feel like it wasn't that hard to go against us, I knew we would lose.

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June 23, 2023, 05:35:57 PM
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As a gambler I will never bet against my favorite team and the team I am a fan of. I have faith in my team that my team will never let me down. Be it cricket, football or anything else. From my real experience I bet against my favorite team in gambling and I lost. But if your team is weak then you can bet against your team and you won't let your money go too easily.
You are so loyal, but maybe sometimes I will that thing as well but of course I will bet largely to the team that I am believing with and little amount to the other team . But I think , I did not  do these kind of team because like you I will support my fav team until the end, whether they are losing or what I will stick to that no matter what happens.
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It actually depends in the gambler's perspective because at the end of the day, they are more as a gambler rather than just a fan who is afraid to bet against the team that they are a fan of. I mean, let's just be honest because betting against the team that we liked doesn't really mean that we are not that loyal to them because in the first place, that's not even a description of what a loyal fan would be.
We are here to bet and make money even if it means betting against them besides the entertainment we are getting as we surely don't want to be in the losing side just to be called loyal. Nobody will know, trust me.

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June 23, 2023, 06:36:08 PM
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As a gambler I will never bet against my favorite team and the team I am a fan of. I have faith in my team that my team will never let me down. Be it cricket, football or anything else. From my real experience I bet against my favorite team in gambling and I lost. But if your team is weak then you can bet against your team and you won't let your money go too easily.
You are so loyal, but maybe sometimes I will that thing as well but of course I will bet largely to the team that I am believing with and little amount to the other team . But I think , I did not  do these kind of team because like you I will support my fav team until the end, whether they are losing or what I will stick to that no matter what happens.
Wow..you guys are die hard fans to your team I love that commitment and believe you have in your teams. I will bet against my team secretly, if I know that they don't have what it takes to win their opponent. I might be in love with my team but I wouldn't let that deprive me from betting against them for money,especially when I know very well that the probability of my team winning the game will smaller compare to the other team. Though,whenever our team is playing there is this emotional feeling that they should always win the game. Gambling is a game of luck and sometimes our perspective fails us.

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June 23, 2023, 06:45:07 PM
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As a gambler I will never bet against my favorite team and the team I am a fan of. I have faith in my team that my team will never let me down. Be it cricket, football or anything else. From my real experience I bet against my favorite team in gambling and I lost. But if your team is weak then you can bet against your team and you won't let your money go too easily.
You are so loyal, but maybe sometimes I will that thing as well but of course I will bet largely to the team that I am believing with and little amount to the other team . But I think , I did not  do these kind of team because like you I will support my fav team until the end, whether they are losing or what I will stick to that no matter what happens.
Wow..you guys are die hard fans to your team I love that commitment and believe you have in your teams. I will bet against my team secretly, if I know that they don't have what it takes to win their opponent. I might be in love with my team but I wouldn't let that deprive me from betting against them for money,especially when I know very well that the probability of my team winning the game will smaller compare to the other team. Though,whenever our team is playing there is this emotional feeling that they should always win the game. Gambling is a game of luck and sometimes our perspective fails us.

Being a bettor and a loyal to your club or team is a two complete different things as there are no connections to begin with. I personally enjoys watching my favorite team and do some bet as well in their favor as long as I know that their chances to win are good as being a fan, I somewhat know what are their strengths and limitations, but if there's an instance that I don't see them winning, I just watch the game and skipped the betting as I know what is the likelihood of the outcome.

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June 23, 2023, 07:39:11 PM
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Being a bettor and a loyal to your club or team is a two complete different things as there are no connections to begin with. I personally enjoys watching my favorite team and do some bet as well in their favor as long as I know that their chances to win are good as being a fan, I somewhat know what are their strengths and limitations, but if there's an instance that I don't see them winning, I just watch the game and skipped the betting as I know what is the likelihood of the outcome.

Fair point. I don't view betting on favorite team as a support because our bets doesn't reach them also betting against them is not a form of betrayal because you simply acknowledge your team wekaness over their opponent which we should knew very well because we are always watching their games and follow their performance.

We are betting to gain some money and not to support favorite teams. I will watch their games if I want to support them but not through betting because it's just a waste on betting to them while we know that the chance of winning is very low.

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