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May 29, 2023, 08:58:38 AM
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I make more bets against my favorite teams than any other team for any sport period.  The reason is simple, I know my teams better than I know any other teams. So I know their strengths and weaknesses and I can capitalize on that. It’s foolish to not want to bet against your own team if you believe with certainty they are going to lose and by more than the spread or money line.

Bet with your head, not your heart.

Any serious minded gamblers should even know that there's nothing to die hard for in gambling or for the team you supported because at the end of the day, you're not being recognized by them and your opinion on their activities is never welcome, counted or recognized, why then should one go extremely being too emotional to that extent for just a supporting team, we have to better position our thinking and reasonings in other for them not to affected our mental health balance while gambling, this is more of being logical than been reasonable at your own expenses in giving your team a considerable honour at your own risk even when you need not to, to me that's not loyalty but stupidity.

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May 29, 2023, 09:41:36 AM
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Why not? Gambling is not about supporting your favourite sports or football stars, it's about making money, so yes I can bet against my favorite club, when it comes to making money it is far different from supporting what I like and love, two different things entirely.

It's same reason why some football clubs and few other sports make more money when they lose a match, they already took a deal and the deal becomes a success only if they lose a match.

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May 29, 2023, 10:10:41 AM
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from a certain point of view it is a contradiction.
I'm no longer an avid fan of my favorite team...personally I hate some situation behind "fans/hooligans".
If I had to choose between am economic win or their victory in a match... I really don't see place for negotiation, it's normal that I would choose my economic win!  Grin I also happened to bet against my national team more than once...  Roll Eyes
I quite agree with your take on this. It's not like I'm being paid to support them that I have to stay loyal to them. Being a fan doesn't mean I'd pass up on the opportunity of making money from betting against them! It's a hard no. No hard feelings, it's just business  Grin

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May 29, 2023, 02:43:02 PM
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from a certain point of view it is a contradiction.
I'm no longer an avid fan of my favorite team...personally I hate some situation behind "fans/hooligans".
If I had to choose between am economic win or their victory in a match... I really don't see place for negotiation, it's normal that I would choose my economic win!  Grin I also happened to bet against my national team more than once...  Roll Eyes
I quite agree with your take on this. It's not like I'm being paid to support them that I have to stay loyal to them. Being a fan doesn't mean I'd pass up on the opportunity of making money from betting against them! It's a hard no. No hard feelings, it's just business  Grin
So it depends on the perception of each of us. We could just place a bet for our team against another team, but I think it would be a waste of money, especially if we know that the opposing team is stronger than ours. Maybe it's better not to be a fanatic supporter, making us more flexible in choosing a team to bet on. We can also tell our friends that we are not die-hard fans willing to do anything for our team, so they won't make fun of us if we choose not to bet on our team.

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May 29, 2023, 03:31:56 PM
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As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?
I'm not going to mix up support for my favorite club with betting. This means that I will sort out between Manchester United fans in betting.
When Manchester United plays a club that incidentally has strength above them and has the potential to find it difficult to win, I will place a bet on the over or under odds.

For example in the last game Manchester United vs Fulham. I analyze that Fulham can score goals at Old Trafford because their game can make it difficult for Manchester United. In the end my bet won because it was bet on over 2.5.
My other bet yesterday was on the Chelsea vs Newcastle United match, I lost because I bet on Newcastle's win, including choosing to win Manchester City, which failed at Brentford.

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May 29, 2023, 06:06:08 PM
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to be honest, I gamble using logic, not with feelings, so I bet on all the teams that I think have the potential to win based on the odds and so on

the purpose of gambling people is to make a profit, not bad luck, but I respect people who love to death with the football team they idolize

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May 29, 2023, 06:24:16 PM
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I'm not going to mix up support for my favorite club with betting. This means that I will sort out between Manchester United fans in betting.
When Manchester United plays a club that incidentally has strength above them and has the potential to find it difficult to win, I will place a bet on the over or under odds.
When it comes to financial gain, then of course it's fine to bet against your own favorite team. But I don't because I don't have to force myself to bet against my own team even though I know they are not the favorite in a match. However, it still makes sense for whoever you are to bet against your own team if you believe they will lose in one match.

I just want to ask, are you betting on Manchester City win because they are the favorites in the FA Cup final against Manchester United. Are you sure to fight against your own team or just enjoy the match without betting?

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May 29, 2023, 06:28:57 PM
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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well.
I am a Liverpool fan and no matter how they perform I am always with my club that's as a fan. When I am gambling then obviously my favourit team always get the benefit of the doubt but when it's obvious that my team is not in good shape and going to lose the match, I don't bet for them. I have gone against Liverpool many times even on the EPL pool.

Bet with your head, not your heart.
It does not always work for me and I tend to lose my bets all the time LOL

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May 29, 2023, 06:42:38 PM
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I'm not going to mix up support for my favorite club with betting. This means that I will sort out between Manchester United fans in betting.
When Manchester United plays a club that incidentally has strength above them and has the potential to find it difficult to win, I will place a bet on the over or under odds.
When it comes to financial gain, then of course it's fine to bet against your own favorite team. But I don't because I don't have to force myself to bet against my own team even though I know they are not the favorite in a match. However, it still makes sense for whoever you are to bet against your own team if you believe they will lose in one match.

I just want to ask, are you betting on Manchester City win because they are the favorites in the FA Cup final against Manchester United. Are you sure to fight against your own team or just enjoy the match without betting?
We should really know on when to bet and when we shouldn't if we are really that minding that much when it comes to financial losses or losing money literally. Its not really that necessary on taking up a bet specially

if we do see that our favorite team is really that in problem or disadvantage.Pretty sure OP is really pertaining with that much and same goes into those other sports which are on the same situation where
we know that there are favorites and there's really the opposite. We arent really that dumb enough for us not to be able to determine which one is really that the favorites and which is the underdog.
If it turns out that your favorite team on the underdog side then for sure there's really that kind of frustration but supporting it would be unlikely unless if you are really that a die hard
which you do stick on betting on them even if you do see that chances of winning is slim because you are really that hoping deep inside that there would really be some possible upset.

Overall it would really be just depending on a certain individual on how he would really be handling out this kind of situation yet its our money then its our full rights on what are the things that we should do.

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May 29, 2023, 06:48:31 PM
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I make more bets against my favorite teams than any other team for any sport period.  The reason is simple, I know my teams better than I know any other teams. So I know their strengths and weaknesses and I can capitalize on that. It’s foolish to not want to bet against your own team if you believe with certainty they are going to lose and by more than the spread or money line.

Bet with your head, not your heart.

Loved this! Cool You got some straight facts right there mate and I literally view the same way as you are.

Reason is simple enough though, in any give time or day that my favorite team will play regardless of the sport, I'm always open and available to the fact that I could bet on the opposing team especially if I know that my favorite team is not literally equipped to defeat the opposing team. Being a sports fan doesn't not always mean that we should bet towards them even if we already know their chances are not that strong. I'm here to gamble for some profits and not some losses for the sake of supporting the team.
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May 29, 2023, 06:54:51 PM
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I wouldn't have a problem betting against a team I was a fan of if the odds warranted it.  I don't think it's a sin or anything.  That being said, I do think that betting on the team you WANT to win instead of the team you THINK will win has it's own advantages.  It adds a little extra enjoyment when your team wins, and gives you skin in the game to cheer for your team.  So I guess it depends if you're in it for entertainment or to make money.  I personally gamble for entertainment, but I can see the benefit of betting against your team and taking the approach that you win no matter what happens.

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May 29, 2023, 07:07:49 PM
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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well.
I am a Liverpool fan and no matter how they perform I am always with my club that's as a fan. When I am gambling then obviously my favourit team always get the benefit of the doubt but when it's obvious that my team is not in good shape and going to lose the match, I don't bet for them. I have gone against Liverpool many times even on the EPL pool.

Bet with your head, not your heart.
It does not always work for me and I tend to lose my bets all the time LOL
I understand where you are from as am also a Manchester united die hard fan, and have been faced many times with a condition where I would have to wait for Manchester united to actually win to decide my bet but I would rather just go a cash out when I know fully well that they can deliver a win in that game.

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May 29, 2023, 07:25:00 PM
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from a certain point of view it is a contradiction.
I'm no longer an avid fan of my favorite team...personally I hate some situation behind "fans/hooligans".
If I had to choose between am economic win or their victory in a match... I really don't see place for negotiation, it's normal that I would choose my economic win!  Grin I also happened to bet against my national team more than once...  Roll Eyes
I quite agree with your take on this. It's not like I'm being paid to support them that I have to stay loyal to them. Being a fan doesn't mean I'd pass up on the opportunity of making money from betting against them! It's a hard no. No hard feelings, it's just business  Grin
So it depends on the perception of each of us. We could just place a bet for our team against another team, but I think it would be a waste of money, especially if we know that the opposing team is stronger than ours. Maybe it's better not to be a fanatic supporter, making us more flexible in choosing a team to bet on. We can also tell our friends that we are not die-hard fans willing to do anything for our team, so they won't make fun of us if we choose not to bet on our team.
Good point though sometimes I still prefer to bet for my supported team, hoping that they will come up and upset their opponents, but it's logical that it's a waste of money if you really know and you fully understand the edge of the opposing team. But again, it will have different opinions and different take in terms of the reason why there are gamblers who are willing to spare some money and take the high-risk bet to support or to show how die-hard they are from the team that they are supporting.

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May 29, 2023, 09:10:18 PM
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Why not? Gambling is not about supporting your favourite sports or football stars, it's about making money, so yes I can bet against my favorite club, when it comes to making money it is far different from supporting what I like and love, two different things entirely.

It's same reason why some football clubs and few other sports make more money when they lose a match, they already took a deal and the deal becomes a success only if they lose a match.

For some people who are fanatical supporters of their idol team, it would be taboo for them to make bets against the team they idolize. however, that doesn't mean we will suddenly bet on our favorite team without looking at the strength of the opposing team. there are various options provided in terms of betting, we can even choose a way that is not against our own favorite team. however, it all depends on the gambler himself.

Maybe for you, it doesn't matter. but for others, they won't and I am no exception. usually, I wouldn't bet on my favorite team if the team they were facing was a stronger team. or maybe, I will choose another option according to what is provided by the bookies. In essence, every gambler has their own style and characteristics, including when betting on their favorite team. for me, there is a lot of fun in sports betting and it's not just a matter of making money. because after all, money can't buy pleasure. however, that doesn't mean we have to blindly bet on our favorite team even though we know the probability that we have is very small. which in essence, it all comes down to options and we can take advantage of them.

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May 29, 2023, 09:59:36 PM
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from a certain point of view it is a contradiction.
I'm no longer an avid fan of my favorite team...personally I hate some situation behind "fans/hooligans".
If I had to choose between am economic win or their victory in a match... I really don't see place for negotiation, it's normal that I would choose my economic win!  Grin I also happened to bet against my national team more than once...  Roll Eyes
I quite agree with your take on this. It's not like I'm being paid to support them that I have to stay loyal to them. Being a fan doesn't mean I'd pass up on the opportunity of making money from betting against them! It's a hard no. No hard feelings, it's just business  Grin
So it depends on the perception of each of us. We could just place a bet for our team against another team, but I think it would be a waste of money, especially if we know that the opposing team is stronger than ours. Maybe it's better not to be a fanatic supporter, making us more flexible in choosing a team to bet on. We can also tell our friends that we are not die-hard fans willing to do anything for our team, so they won't make fun of us if we choose not to bet on our team.
Good point though sometimes I still prefer to bet for my supported team, hoping that they will come up and upset their opponents, but it's logical that it's a waste of money if you really know and you fully understand the edge of the opposing team. But again, it will have different opinions and different take in terms of the reason why there are gamblers who are willing to spare some money and take the high-risk bet to support or to show how die-hard they are from the team that they are supporting.
If you are a die hard fan then you would surely be sticking into a certain team which you do really support and if you do look or find that they do have a chance on making some upset then you wouldnt really be having no doubts on betting on them but on the time that you do see that they do have slim chance of winning but still choses up to support and bet on them then thats loyalty and there's nothing wrong with that since its your money then its your full rights on what you should gonna do as long it do makes you happy and contented then its better not to mind on what others would be saying about your bet. Dont bet
according into their preference but rather bet on your own preference and likings so that there would be no some sort of regrets in the end.
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I bet based on the odds, not because of my favorite team will play or not. I also not bet every match, only few match which I think worth to bet, if there's no worthy bet, I wouldn't place any bet. But I would choose to watch my favorite team rather than other match I had bet, usually I only watch the replay on the other matches. If someone favorite team is Nottingham Forrest, they already suffer huge loss if he keep bet their favorite team Cheesy
Betting games with odds is one of the things that makes some gamblers to lose their games but some of us will not agree with me, i believe that what we should have done as a gambler is that to calm down and watch some matches and perfect the players and the features of the two clubs playing before we make our predictions, clubs win matches because of the strength of players not by odds

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May 29, 2023, 10:18:24 PM
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We are fans of different football clubs, and whenever there is football banter, we never fail to take sides with our respective clubs. We stand by them no matter what because that's what being a fan of a football club is all about - unwavering loyalty. However, not all of our favorite clubs perform well.
I am a Liverpool fan and no matter how they perform I am always with my club that's as a fan. When I am gambling then obviously my favourit team always get the benefit of the doubt but when it's obvious that my team is not in good shape and going to lose the match, I don't bet for them. I have gone against Liverpool many times even on the EPL pool.

Bet with your head, not your heart.
It does not always work for me and I tend to lose my bets all the time LOL
I understand where you are from as am also a Manchester united die hard fan, and have been faced many times with a condition where I would have to wait for Manchester united to actually win to decide my bet but I would rather just go a cash out when I know fully well that they can deliver a win in that game.
Like one of the comment in the quotes say.. Bet with your head and not your heart.. Sincerely, I think it's one of the best advice based on what is being discussed here, and like I said in my previous comment, it still does not make any sense to deliberately loose money all in the name of being a die hard fan of a certain club, I think one way to snap out from such deception is to realize that the club you are supporting, the players still get paid whether they loose or win their games, so for me, taking a deliberate loss for a team I am supporting is a no no, it's more of a deception than reality.

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May 29, 2023, 10:23:04 PM
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Be practical since this is more important rather than be a loser fan kid.
No problem being a fan but yeah, in these times we all are trying to be practical and with such bets. There's no way a fan will ignore these odds, you'll remain as a fan but let the odds and bookmakers handle the gamble. And you as a bettor, don't let the chance pass because it's your chance to make money. No matter what happens to your club as long as you win your bet, you'll still be happy. But if you don't bet and your club wins, you'll still be happy. And if your bet losses and your club win, you'll be sad.

To much is not good so we should be practical if there's money involve. There's really nothing wrong to bet on opponent side if this is the best thing to do and its just other people think about bad about it since they think you are not loyal to your team. People should know that the support is their but we should bet to the other team if we know that they have advantage at that time since in can increase our. Hance to take home some good cash if we win on our bets.

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May 29, 2023, 11:12:22 PM
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Any serious minded gamblers should even know that there's nothing to die hard for in gambling or for the team you supported because at the end of the day, you're not being recognized by them and your opinion on their activities is never welcome, counted or recognized, why then should one go extremely being too emotional to that extent for just a supporting team,
You might be a die hard fan of a club, it’s fine everyone is having club that he/she is supporting, but when gambling, you shouldn’t fall in love with any club, make sure you gamble on a neutral ground, even your club shouldn’t be your favorite. Just do your analysis and bet on any club you think will win, if you keep on claiming that you are a die hard fan of a club, you will be the one that will keep on losing if the club loses and the players will get paid even if they lose, so it will only affect you.

Let take a look at Chelsea, if you have been gambling that Chelsea will win every week because you are a die hard fan of Chelsea, am sure the person will only win little amount of money, or let’s assume Manchester City and Chelsea is playing, we all know that Manchester city will win but you went ahead to bet on Chelsea to win, you are the one that will lose and Chelsea players will be paid.

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May 30, 2023, 01:13:46 AM
Last edit: May 30, 2023, 02:20:37 AM by Sexylizzy2813
 #140

As a gambler and a die-hard fan of a club that has been having a terrible season, would you bet against your club, knowing that their loss would be your financial gain? Or would you stay loyal and not bet against them?

When is comes to gambling I don't see anything wrong in betting against your favorite club, to me is something you'd benefit from and if you look at it this way, the club you support have players who are being paid weekly and imagine you betting against them to get a huge sum of money won't you do it even if it's ones to go against you lovely club, won't you? To me yes is the answer.
Hehe, is funny when I saw my brother and his friend praying for Arsenal to draw, that's the club they support but as we all know, money has a way of changing ones mindset.
So I feel if the money involved is super huge, I see nothing going against your favorite club.

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