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Title: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Lida93 on June 19, 2023, 09:46:33 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Wiwo on June 19, 2023, 10:00:21 PM


A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
If the take second thought of the consequences of their actions,  it then mean they are no longer addicts and won't want to go that way by having to do despicable things just to gamble,  the thing is that at that point their conscience is already death and their won't even have any second thought before carrying out such act.


2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
The have zero remorse just like someone that have a mental problem,  they are no longer in control but rather their addiction controls them.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Yes that is what it is,  the addictions have made them become a monster looking for every possible means and ways just to feed they desires,  and gambling addicts is even worst of since they aim is to use whatever valuable to gamble and this is something that pushes them to use even things that have more value to that their stake.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: AmoreJaz on June 19, 2023, 10:13:27 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
If the take second thought of the consequences of their actions,  it then mean they are no longer addicts and won't want to go that way by having to do despicable things just to gamble,  the thing is that at that point their conscience is already death and their won't even have any second thought before carrying out such act.
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?
The have zero remorse just like someone that have a mental problem,  they are no longer in control but rather their addiction controls them.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Yes that is what it is,  the addictions have made them become a monster looking for every possible means and ways just to feed they desires,  and gambling addicts is even worst of since they aim is to use whatever valuable to gamble and this is something that pushes them to use even things that have more value to that their stake.

well, we have another thread related to gambling addiction here.  :P but yeah, if the person is already addicted to gambling just like any addiction, they usually have no concept of dignity, thus, resorting to actions that would ruin their or their family's reputation.
this is why if someone is already at this stage, professional help is already needed to intervene in this situation. they will only feel guilty when something life-changing is already happening to them like getting divorced or his kids don't want to see him anymore.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: n0ne on June 19, 2023, 10:19:21 PM
1. The gambler will think of the second thought after losing or encountering some problems soon after busting the money. This happens with most of the gamblers. Maybe if they had gone through the second thought they might have not gambled.

2. Surely the person will feel guilt at some point. Maybe at the beginning the thoughts were we couldn't have caught. Later surely the person will feel guilt for the act as the loss will surely pain him.

3. The reality, they're in an uncontrollable state. For some reason they've got into gambling, and keep running with the hope and never thinks of from where the money will come. They'll try to manage on the go and end up with similar incidents. Finally at some point they'll understand it is really hard and loss is the end result. Even at that time their mind doesn't wants to stop, but it gets adopted to it.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: acroman08 on June 19, 2023, 10:44:22 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?
here's my assumption, they probably do think about what the consequence could be but the urge of wanting to gamble is too much so they do it anyway, and they most likely justify their action just to clear their conscience.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
some probably do and some probably won't. As I said before, they try to justify their actions in their own twisted way, but some probably will realize just how badly their action affected someone and feels remorseful for what they have done.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
they are, but not all of them.

btw, it is my first time hearing the phrase "dispassionate victim". I am still confused about what it means but from what I understand, it basically means "someone who shows no emotion despite being a victim or affected by something", am I right?


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: dothebeats on June 19, 2023, 10:50:15 PM
If you meet an addict that thinks about other people more than their pleasures or activities, you are a very rare person. I've never met an addict that feels remorseful over their actions and indulgences after they finished gambling. They might feel upset, but never remorseful. No matter how much it affects the people around them, all they think of is how can they satiate their hunger for gambling or where can they get more money to extend their sessions.

There are some addicts that can feel something for a short time, though, but it immediately fades once they have the money to fill their addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Docnaster on June 19, 2023, 10:52:02 PM


A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
If the take second thought of the consequences of their actions,  it then mean they are no longer addicts and won't want to go that way by having to do despicable things just to gamble,  the thing is that at that point their conscience is already death and their won't even have any second thought before carrying out such act.

Wiwo I saw you opened a post that there are much of gambling addiction posts and here you are freely commenting to it ;D  We cannot actually stop it. You can choose to add this to the list you made.
Meanwhile to Op, not all addicts actually know they are addicted. Only a few that knows they are addicted seek for help. Most addicts don't actually know they are addicted. They simply see it as a way of life.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Oshosondy on June 19, 2023, 10:57:06 PM
How did you hear about this? If it is from a news, please include the link so that we can read it on the news too directly. I am just tired of bringing up gambling addiction stories that are not true.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Gambling addicts do not think about the consequences of losing a bet, all they think about is that they can win and win. They are thinking that gambling will make their life better as they will find a strategies to always win, but otherwise are always the case as they continue to lose.

Until losses occur before they can be remorseful about gambling.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Yes.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 19, 2023, 10:59:47 PM
Well, most gambling addicts don't even know they are addicted, and that is where the whole problem lies, how can someone who doesnt know that he or she committed a crime feel remorseful or any form of regret for what they have done or how what they've done affected any body or those around them?

It is always said that solving a problem required two steps, and the
First step is the come to the realization and acceptance that the problem is there, once a person can agree to the presence of the problem and accept it's a problem indeed, then such problem is 50% solved already, then

The second step will be to look for the solution to the problem.

Most gambling addict I know will never agree they are addicted, they will just tell you that they are just a regular gambler like anybody else who loves gambling frequently.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: serjent05 on June 19, 2023, 11:23:27 PM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
I think gambling addicts sometimes think and reflect about their action but they are already addicted to gambling so they continue with their gambling activity despite they have thought that they are doing wrong.

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Human feature is to feel remorse whenever he done something wrong.  In case of a gambling addict, I thnk they also feel remorse but as I stated gambling addiction is too strong that they keep on gambling the moment they have the chance.

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3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They are victim obviously.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Hispo on June 19, 2023, 11:49:29 PM
No, I would say that gambling addicts do not know or cannot tell right from Wrong when comes to their gambling habits.

Actually, not being able to tell right from wrong while gambling is one of the main characteristics of a problem gambling victim, and hence the inability to stop wagering money.

If someone still can feel remorse or have second thoughts, then It is not too late for that person to get intervention and straighten their life and save up their money for more important things than entertainment.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Pierre 2 on June 20, 2023, 06:13:31 AM
I feel like if you need to steal from someone you love just to gamble puts you into pathologic addict status. I wouldn't call it bad habit at that point - it would be sickness that should be treated by professionals. I think gambling addicts are humans so they definitely feel bad about it I am sure. But they probably can't help themselves and stop. They should not exactly be blamed. It should be considered disorder probably. I would offer professional help if my relatives have similar issues.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Oasisman on June 20, 2023, 06:27:24 AM

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Ok here we go with another episode of the "gambling addicts". Well, to answer these questions, in my opinion it's a big NO to all three of that. They are not even aware that they are a gambling addict, same goes with the people who got addicted with cigarettes and alcohol, they only feel like it's part of their daily routine and their system.
Do they have a thought on the consequences of their actions? "NO", why? because they think they could take back all what they've lost once they hit a jackpot when reality is they won't gonna take it back.
Does that husband felt guilt or remorse on what happened to their cleaner? "NO" cause if he does, he have admitted it in the first place when the authorities took their cleaner away as a primary suspect for the ongoing investigation. Though that husband might felt it on the latter.
Are they a victim of their own lifestyle? again, NO they chose that path and so they are the only one who could fix it on their own.

Again, we can't do much to cure gambling addiction, but we can somehow spread awareness to prevent one from becoming so, but I think we have enough of an awareness in this section LOL.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Lida93 on June 20, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
they are, but not all of them.

btw, it is my first time hearing the phrase "dispassionate victim". I am still confused about what it means but from what I understand, it basically means "someone who shows no emotion despite being a victim or affected by something", am I right?
You are not far from the meaning, mate. The word dispassionate is an ambiguous word with several meanings, and in this context "dispassionate victim", could be said to be someone who finds himself under a circumstance that is overwhelming and beyond their control.  Within their inner part they don't feel like doing it but they do it anyway.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Josefjix on June 20, 2023, 06:39:05 AM
No, I would say that gambling addicts do not know or cannot tell right from Wrong when comes to their gambling habits.

Actually, not being able to tell right from wrong while gambling is one of the main characteristics of a problem gambling victim, and hence the inability to stop wagering money.

If someone still can feel remorse or have second thoughts, then It is not too late for that person to get intervention and straighten their life and save up their money for more important things than entertainment.
Everyone understands what is right and wrong, it is only ignorance that prevents most people from doing the right thing; purportedly, we had opportunities to right our wrongs, but some people would not take a single step to do so, instead choosing to engage in gambling activities. Gambling is never an alternative or a method to generating secure finances; it is unreliable and completely a risk. It instills so many destructive negative thoughts in the brains of addicted gamblers that they are willing to engage in any extreme behavior without regard for the consequences of their conduct. gaming addicts do feel sorrow for their desperation for gaming.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 20, 2023, 07:00:17 AM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

Only few make this consideration whilebthe majority overlooked this aspect and believed there's nothing too much to give, loose or expect than for them to enjoy their own life as they could, so gambling i such manners is their own perfect way of being satisfied with lots of fun to enjoy their life each day they are gambling.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Someone who never think about the gambling addiction affecting him negatively will never mind how you also feels about him since those kind of people that are addicted to gambling dont considers some things as serious as when needed because their life itself is not taken with all seriousness, why should they be concerned about how you feels about them.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Maybe, as you can see from those well addicted in gambling, they never see anything wrong in it, they reap the reward for their addiction from the consequences they get afterwards.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Iroh on June 20, 2023, 07:12:53 AM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

I think an individual going through an addiction and wants to drop the habit to better himself needs all the love and support he can get. It’s not an easy task for someone with an addiction to drop it. It’s extremely difficult. I know that for a fact. Regarding your questions, this is what I think..

1. I think some addicts do think their actions through and the repercussions that could come later on that would hurt and affect himself and others around him. But in most cases, the addiction usually would prevail; damn the consequences.

2. Yes, I think some may actually feel remorse and ashamed of how their actions may have negatively affected themselves and their family but that feeling of guilt and shame does not last long and would quickly evaporate when hearing out to gamble again.

3. I think a whole lot could be said to be victims of their own habit that has spiraled out of their control. And that’s why I mentioned that an individual going through an addiction and has made up his mind to stop should be supported and loved.
Mistakes could likely happen and the person may fall back into the habit. Support, love and encouragement from family and people around him would go a long way in the fight towards dropping the addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: yazher on June 20, 2023, 07:16:10 AM
Based on my experience here in our community, they no longer have any kind of shyness because they ask people for money without feeling guilty, and some steal others' properties to support their addictions. I remember when I woke up in the middle of the night when someone asked our neighbor for some money to play because he used to give that guy some money whenever he lost, and the guy seemed to lose his mind as well, waking up my neighbor to fund him some money to play more. Man! That was something you wouldn't believe, but it happens, and I can't believe they went up that far because of their addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: piebeyb on June 20, 2023, 07:26:52 AM
I have friends like this that's why gamblers who have become heavy addicts are always abandoned by their families or leave their families, everything is almost the same as that, for example stealing or selling what belongs to his wife or children, that's why they never think about the future of their family let alone think about the consequences their actions. they won't care about that. believe me

My friend always follows a lifestyle, usually the environment exerts influence and pressure on him so he continues to play gambling without caring about anything around him or hurting his family's feelings, that's why I advised him but he never wanted to hear it, maybe one day at his saturation point he will think for himself about his behavior had gone too far. I'm sure it will come and he regrets it. so never advise addicts because it will be useless, my advice is let him be aware starting from himself. seeing the story above it is almost very similar to my gambling friend, seeing him made me realize that gambling must be wise and controlled


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: swogerino on June 20, 2023, 07:36:41 AM
Sometimes in extreme conditions they do.It is a personal case to me as I was badly addicted in 2019 and in the early 2020,one time I lost so much money that I could not afford to lose that my level of regret and sadness was at the highest.I laid down to think cold headed and started thinking of what I had just done,this led me to carefully think ahead and I decided to never again gambling more than I could afford to lose,since then with the passing of time I developed a really strong self will and managed to never do that horrible thing again.

So bottom line,gambling addicts sometimes do think and correct the consequences caused by their behavior.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Mauser on June 20, 2023, 07:49:37 AM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Personally I have never experienced a gambling addiction so it's a bit hard to answer for me, but I have personal experiences with other types of addictions. In the end I think the behavior we have with our addictions are very similar and don't depend on the substances. My uncle struggles with alcohol addiction for a long time and I talked with him about it many times. He is aware how much it affects our family as everybody tries to help him. The problem is that all morning and afternoon he is fine and control himself, but in the evening there is a switch in him that starts to change his behavior completely. I have a similar experience with cigarettes, tried to stop more than 20 times but always come back to it. Especially after drinking alcohol I can't control myself and it happens automatically, even though I know how bad it is.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Alisha-k on June 20, 2023, 08:30:30 AM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
This addiction is on another level, he's not just a gambler, he's an addict and a theif and he needs urgent help.

I feel for the cleaner, it's good she was vindicated quite early..
Hope she finds peace and forgives are accusers.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2023, 08:30:42 AM
1. Gambling addicts never think about the consequences of their actions or the consequences that the people around them will receive. They just want money to be able to continue gambling and will look for that money anywhere, even if they have to steal.
2. I don't know but it doesn't seem like they have any regrets or if they do, it won't stop them from stopping gambling. They have no idea about the feelings of those affected by their actions.
3. they are victims of gambling because they do not have self-control but must also realize that it is their own fault because they often gamble and do not control themselves.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: dezoel on June 20, 2023, 06:09:05 PM
I don't really think that an addict who has reached the level to steal money or belongings from their loved ones only to continue his gambling activities will feel any remorse or will have any thought about what the consequences of his actions will be on his loved ones or others around him, he is probably not able to think about anything else apart from gambling and that is the reason why he carried out something like that.

Such people need to be treated because they lose their ability to think critically and take decisions that are good for themselves and those they live with, they also can be dangerous because they can do almost anything to get some money for their gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Zlantann on June 20, 2023, 06:16:13 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  

Most addicts care about their families and they want the best for them. They know the consequences of their actions but they are under the control of a strong force that pushes them to damn the consequences of their actions. Have you ever considered why an addicted smoker keeps smoking even when the doctor had informed him that smoking is killing him. He is well aware that his death will cause so much pain to his family, yet he is still indulging in the deadly act.

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  

If you have ever counseled a gambling addict you know that they are very sorry for their actions. Some might have become strong hearted thereby having no feeling or remorse, but most of the people I have advised feel sorry for putting themselves and family at financial risk. Many of them have kept apologizing countless because they are not pleased with their misbehavior. The issue is that they just can't help themselves.

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3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Some of these gamblers have become used to their misbehavior. They don't feel remorse and don't also care about the consequences of their actions. Every gambling addict needs help because addiction makes people lose their sense of reasoning.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Casdinyard on June 20, 2023, 06:46:48 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
People that are in too deep in the gambling addiction world rarely gets bothered about the consequences of their actions in their journey to get their fix. Some even go so far as to commit heinous crimes just to get the money to support their gambling habits, which is wrong on all levels. Of course at some point they'd have this realization, perhaps upon committing their first act of crime or somethign that they knew they wouldn't do if they weren't addicted to gambling in the first place, but most of the time soon as they get past this regret they'd carry on with committing these things without remorse as they've already gone past that. I don't really want to put the victim blaming card here but when every sign's out there and you've avoided it or looked past such innuendos by your mind and your body, telling you to stop your gambling or else you'll be in deeper trouble than you ever could expect, then at some level you deserve what's coming for you.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: sunsilk on June 20, 2023, 06:52:33 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
I think they do but they'll reason out that they had no choice.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Possibly but they still do it.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
This is also possible. But learning to know that you've been addicted, you shouldn't harm others and also affect the time or anything that they've got.

There are gamblers that aren't addicted and still know the place and things that they've got, the limitations that should set boundaries on how far they can go with gambling.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: alastantiger on June 20, 2023, 06:53:00 PM
Such a sad story. Addiction of any type ruins lives and homes.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?

Yes, they do but then immediately tell those thought to go to hell as they are ready to bear the consequences. Or rather their will is just too weak. What I have noticed about gambling addicts is that their addiction thrives in isolation. They are usually loners. So being alone most of the time, there is no one for intrude on their thoughts and make them have a rethink

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?

Yes, they do. Some of them genuinely wants to stop but do not know how or have the necessary emotional support to help them push through. No right thinking person would enjoy seeing their loved ones hurt because of their addiction.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Aikidoka on June 20, 2023, 06:55:22 PM
Gambling addiction can be extremely hard to some gamblers and in some cases, it tragically leads to suicide. It is a serious topic and I sincerely hope that anyone struggling with this addiction seeks help ASAP.

I think stories of husbands stealing their wives' jewelry and selling it to fund their gambling habits are sadly quite common and when gambling addiction takes hold, gamblers often become desperate for more money resorting to selling their own belongings their spouse's possessions or even their children's items. It's truly a terrible situation and horrible.

1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
Most of them don't care about the consequences as the only thing they want is to earn more money to use for gambling! It's just a big issue and it can create chaos within the entire family if the husband is addicted or any member of the family.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
I don't think so as they may not be fully aware of the real situation. They could end up regretting their choices later on but once they become deeply addicted they might convince themselves that what they are doing is the right way!


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on June 20, 2023, 07:41:34 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Gambling addicts are not some subhuman trash, although some can be, and act such a way.

The very problem in addiction, whether its from gambling, drugs, alcohol, food etc. all points to the same physical cause. The brain chemistry of an addict is going haywire and is not as it should be. This Dysbalance in for example, dopamine receptors that cannot work properly after being abused by dopamine draining drugs or behavior.

So what it really is is a neurological and mental illness that needs to be treated professionally, otherwise the individual does not stand much of a chance beating it him/herself. And thats the point in which things become desperate.

So the things they do and say is understandable, even if its not tolerable.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Casdinyard on June 20, 2023, 07:46:43 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Gambling addicts are not some subhuman trash, although some can be, and act such a way.

The very problem in addiction, whether its from gambling, drugs, alcohol, food etc. all points to the same physical cause. The brain chemistry of an addict is going haywire and is not as it should be. This Dysbalance in for example, dopamine receptors that cannot work properly after being abused by dopamine draining drugs or behavior.

So what it really is is a neurological and mental illness that needs to be treated professionally, otherwise the individual does not stand much of a chance beating it him/herself. And thats the point in which things become desperate.

So the things they do and say is understandable, even if its not tolerable.
I get what you're trying to say here, and I sympathize with them as much as the next guy who's aware of the risks and dangers of being addicted to gambling but at the same time, if you let yourself be stuck in that situation, cause let's face it even though your brain's going haywire you still have agency over your actions and words which in all manners of the sense makes you liable for every action you'd take from here on out, including the use of intervention to prevent further succumbing to addiction. That's why we have people who could quit smoking, taking drugs and all that out of their own volition or assisted by a professional, it all starts within the self.

So you can't really absolve them of any crimes they will commit just because their dopamine receptors are fucked. That wouldn't hold up well in court.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Fortify on June 20, 2023, 07:59:24 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

It absolutely varies by person, but at the point somebody is classed as an "addict" it means they are engaged in an activity to an unhealthy amount. While they may suffer internally by knowing that their actions are having a negative effect on others, that is generally lower in their scale of priorities where gambling might hold the number one spot. Sure, they have not morphed into some alien species that is incapable of analyzing the consequences of their actions, but one of the critical points is that they have lost control over choice in gambling. They have let the entertainment consume them, which can even happen with things like video games and they seek to engage with their chosen activity over anything else in life.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: knowngunman on June 20, 2023, 08:06:08 PM

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Of course they do feel remorse but that won't still stop them from going back to commit more atrocities. If you can be opportune to interact with a gamble addict after any unethical attitude you would discover that majority of them feel guilty and you could be able to read from their face how regrettable they are.

However, feeling remorse or not change nothing as it is just like medicine after death. Being a gamble addict is understandable if you are using your own resources but stealing to keep streak of your uncontrollable attitude is very bad. This addiction can be prevented using some measures such as staying indoors and limiting your access to internet and being in company of others. Feel sorry for the innocent cleaner after all.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Merit.s on June 20, 2023, 08:06:59 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
I don't think so,especially those gamblers that are addicted to gambling. They care less about themselves and people around them because they are always busy chasing their loss,believing that they can hit the jackpot in the next bet.

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?
Maybe/Maybe not...There are some that has such feelings and will consider people around them by doing it secretly. Especially now that we have online casinos. On the other hand those chronic gamblers don't care about how their gambling activities affects anyone,if not they wouldn't do so many drastic things when they don't have their own personal funds for gambling.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Hispo on June 20, 2023, 08:11:16 PM

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Of course they do feel remorse but that won't still stop them from going back to commit more atrocities. If you can be opportune to interact with a gamble addict after any unethical attitude you would discover that majority of them feel guilty and you could be able to read from their face how regrettable they are.

However, feeling remorse or not change nothing as it is just like medicine after death. Being a gamble addict is understandable if you are using your own resources but stealing to keep streak of your uncontrollable attitude is very bad. This addiction can be prevented using some measures such as staying indoors and limiting your access to internet and being in company of others. Feel sorry for the innocent cleaner after all.

The measures to control problem gambling, in my opinion, are very situational. Perhaps, staying indoors and limiting the use of internet can be effective for someone who just started to develop an affinity towards wagering his money. However, I don't think that staying indoors is completely advisable, it can lead towards isolation and the internet is such an useful tool nowadays that it is hard not to use it to make one's life easier while managing things like banks accounts, delivery services or keeping in touch with our family.

It is best to go with a family and friends intervention and accumulate some money, so some professional help can be administered to the person who needs it.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: rahmad2nd on June 20, 2023, 08:14:21 PM

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  

Uhm, this question will be very difficult for us to answer correctly. because it all depends on the individual. in short, relatively depending on the personality of a gambler. there are many cases, where addict gamblers will think many times before carrying out their actions and consider the consequences of what they do. especially, if it involves family or close people. not infrequently, there are many cases that occur as you describe in this thread. Usually, they will look for scapegoats to blame for their actions even in very diverse cases.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  

usually, after they have had a betting session then lose the money they have gambled. a feeling of regret arises, not infrequently they even run away from reality to avoid their responsibilities. for example, there is in what you tell in this thread. some who have a mental that is not strong, they are looking for a quick way to end everything, you know what I mean.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Once again, we cannot measure and generalize for each case to gambling addicts. there are many factors that are the cause, there are many factors to be considered and environmental factors also have a big contribution. So, we can't just see it from the point of view. for sure, people like this will really need help to reduce their addiction. as far as my experience goes, it is ourselves who basically have to be responsible for ourselves.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: blockman on June 20, 2023, 08:15:48 PM
When gambling addicts don't care for the welfare of others and they're doing actions like robbing others' money and selling stuff that isn't theirs, the problem is already too much for them. They may look insensitive but I think that they still have feelings for the others but they just can't stop it when their hands are itching to gamble again. This is a serious problem and it needs medication and seek professional help. They could be aware of what they're doing but at the end of the day, they just want to gamble and will do everything it takes for them to get satisfied.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Slow death on June 20, 2023, 08:53:44 PM
well, I've had people addicted at home, they were my relatives, if there's something I've learned from all this bad experience that I've had for many years in my life and that when people are addicted they can no longer distinguish what's right and the wrong, family members and friends are crucifying the addict, in many cases people even kill the addicts who steal, that's because people are ignorant, they don't understand that an addicted person is sick, it's a serious disease that needs treatment, and the sooner an addicted person has treatment, the sooner he will have a chance of curing the disease, but relatives and friends do not realize this;

my addicted relative stole our goods and sold them and then disappeared, because the addict after committing a crime or doing something bad, he starts to regret it, he tries not to do that again, but the addiction is stronger than him, the only solution and to hospitalize the addict in a clinic for a long time for treatment, my relative died because of the addiction, we tried many times to hospitalize him, but he always managed to escape from the hospital and he got very sick due to the addiction and died a few years ago . he was a person that I liked a lot and that I always fought to help him, unfortunately my years and years of fighting to help him were all wasted


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on June 20, 2023, 09:29:58 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?
It depends on the nature of the addicts, egoistic addicts probably don't care about the consequences. They only think about how to get money for gambling and they just focus on chasing the winning. These types of addicts will be difficult to handle, it is because they have a complicated nature. IMO, the basic problem isn't about the addiction but it is about their nature/characteristics.

While for addicts who love their close people, I think most of them won't ruin the happiness of the people they love. They won't take the money from their close people, but they prefer to borrow money from other people.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
If they become aware of their actions and the bad impacts, they should feel remorse. But it is not easy to make them aware.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on June 20, 2023, 09:54:10 PM
The answers to your question varies individually...
We've got alot of peeps that naturally have this sense of responsibility; that alone is an etiquette that could make them easily pronned to good morals no matter what they fall into. Gambling is sometimes right and helpful - for the fact that I've witnessed a novice that doesn't even know what clubsides nor nationals teams are, but gambled just by writing out the outlines of any club she felt like ( which are usually numbers ), then she wagered the little she had jokingly, and guess what??? She left happily the next day when the game came through.( It was alot of cash anyways)... that was just by the way..it was only illustrated to prove that sometimes, gambling is good
On the contrary, we've got people too that don't even give a fuck about what happens - even if they're in possession of your cash, then they'll wager everything without a second thought.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ryzaadit on June 20, 2023, 09:58:09 PM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: harizen on June 20, 2023, 10:06:16 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Honestly, these people know what they are doing. They know what's right and wrong. They know the consequences of their actions. They know all the associated risks they are dealing with. But yet they ended up being addicted? It's because they are relying and depending on gambling as a last resort to somehow change their lives but in the end, the other way around happened.

The temptation of gambling is always there especially every time they lose. That's why as much as possible, they will think of a way how to gamble regardless of what will happen later on. Again, they are aware of the risks but still choose to face them.

Never-ending cycle and only them can help themselves.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Stable090 on June 20, 2023, 10:30:18 PM

2. Surely the person will feel guilt at some point. Maybe at the beginning the thoughts were we couldn't have caught. Later surely the person will feel guilt for the act as the loss will surely pain him.
Addicted gamblers don’t feel anything whenever they start gambling, they believe it’s normal, but after wasting lots of money that’s when they are going to start regretting why they gambled with that kind of huge amount of money, but by then it will be late already, money lost can not be recovered back. But the most annoying part is that if they end up making another money again, they will end up going back to gamble again, they are going to forget about their past experience.

not all addicts actually know they are addicted. Only a few that knows they are addicted seek for help. Most addicts don't actually know they are addicted. They simply see it as a way of life.
You are right, when you tell some people that they are addicted to gambling, they will deny and claim they are just gambling for fun and they can stop it whenever they want and they can control themselves, few percentage of addicted gamblers will agree that they are truly addicted, higher percentage will claim they are not addicted, but from their behavior you will know that they are truly addicted.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on June 20, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
Unfortunately there are a lot of people who simply can't control themselves when it comes to gambling and it can quite often affect others around them, which is where the real problems lie. 

1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  Some do, some don't, sometimes they can't help it though.  The ones who can't help it (they are truly addicted) I do feel bad for. 

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  Again, some do, some don't, just depends on each particular individual.


3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?  See above answers.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Yatsan on June 20, 2023, 11:03:42 PM
Once you're addicted into something, you'd be aware of things such as its consequences but that is different from knowing the downsides. You'll just be too hooked  up with a speficic behavior or habit as part of an impulse to do it on a daily basis.
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
Aware is different from knowing, for those people who are confused. As I've mentioned, knowing is having idea about a particular thing but with deeper understanding.  In the case of addiction, not only in gambling, they know what they are doing but they cannot explain why do they do it too often. They know the consequences but they cannot help it 'coz of the 'satisfaction' they get from doing a repetitive behavior. This is why professional help should be always advised if you know someone who is having addiction 'coz they won't have the initiative to do so, most of the time.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Hispo on June 20, 2023, 11:11:01 PM
I would also like to add that probably, in the mind if a gambling addicted person the ultimate consequence of their actions is to hit a jackpot which would cover all the losses accumulated through years and would allow them to improve their life in a substantial way (assuming they would not go back gambling the next day with the money of the jackpot).

That is an important part of what gambling addiction is about, I think. The unbearable feeling that next time it may be the lucky roll which could change their life for good. Of course, we all are area of the reality, they are not as much as they are supposed to.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: kamvreto on June 20, 2023, 11:21:38 PM
I would also like to add that probably, in the mind if a gambling addicted person the ultimate consequence of their actions is to hit a jackpot which would cover all the losses accumulated through years and would allow them to improve their life in a substantial way (assuming they would not go back gambling the next day with the money of the jackpot).

That is an important part of what gambling addiction is about, I think. The unbearable feeling that next time it may be the lucky roll which could change their life for good. Of course, we all are area of the reality, they are not as much as they are supposed to.

But the Jackpot was never hit until they became addicts and spent all their money, even selling their homes and belongings. this will look crazy, being an addict will never think about the consequences, the only goal is the Jackpot which the casino never gives. The addict does not realize that what he is doing will only enrich the casino, there is no control, no planning.
The roll of fortune that is always awaited cannot be guessed, it will still be a mystery and the gambling system has arranged it. 1 jackpot will indeed change his whole life, but waiting or getting a jackpot turn will be a very long wait.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on June 20, 2023, 11:45:04 PM
Once you're addicted into something, you'd be aware of things such as its consequences but that is different from knowing the downsides. You'll just be too hooked  up with a speficic behavior or habit as part of an impulse to do it on a daily basis.
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
Aware is different from knowing, for those people who are confused. As I've mentioned, knowing is having idea about a particular thing but with deeper understanding.  In the case of addiction, not only in gambling, they know what they are doing but they cannot explain why do they do it too often. They know the consequences but they cannot help it 'coz of the 'satisfaction' they get from doing a repetitive behavior. This is why professional help should be always advised if you know someone who is having addiction 'coz they won't have the initiative to do so, most of the time.
Indeed two different things. But to add, there are different kinds of addiction wherein some people are addicted to the behavior and not the reward from doing so. And I think it is obvious that in gambling, addiction is created by the slight tendency of winning big time in an instant and not really to the behavior or the actual gambling or playing experience. I've mentioned this 'coz we are talking aboyt consequences. Playing too much won't be that bad in the first place and its worse problem is to not be able to function with proper on a daily basis especially if you're a student or an employee. On the other hand, playing because of high hopes of winning would more likely leave you broke or sell your properties if incase frustration would take place as its consequence, and this is where worse case scenarios, as a consequence, is not being percieved by some 'heavy' gamblers.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Wexnident on June 21, 2023, 12:11:11 AM
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I mean,  they're called "addicts" for a reason. If there was a thought process behind their behavior other than "trying to win", I'd consider them something like a rehab patient, trying to overpower the former reasoning and making it so that something can actually overpower it. It in most cases is impulse, which all addicts are known to have.

Gambling addicts is something similar to a state of a person in withdrawal imo, they see nothing during that state but only what they want. After a few hours of that if they still have some semblance of reason then they'd understand what they did, but knowing about it doesn't exactly make it easier to fix it. They can be considered a victim alright, a victim of their own desires.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Darker45 on June 21, 2023, 12:42:23 AM
I haven't been a gambling addict myself. Neither am I a professional on this, but I think it's possible that a gambling addict about to steal something to support his/her vice has second thoughts. But the urge to have money to be able to gamble will easily overpower it. Gambling addiction is probably different from addiction on drugs in that a victim of the latter won't anymore hesitate to jump off a building. He/she would even do it with a smile on his/her face.

If a gambling addict is brought back to his/her sanity, he/she will surely feel remorse. Until then, he/she will continue to destroy himself/herself, his/her relationships, and so on.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 21, 2023, 01:03:27 AM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

They just can't control themselves, and mostly they don't think about the side effects as they prefer the happiness brought by gambling to them and want to win big. Also, there are instances where they thought they were far from addiction and just said that they wanted to play more and stopped when they felt addicted to it. Only other people can say you are really addicted to gambling, as they will not claim that they are addicted, but for sure they are already aware of everything.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on June 21, 2023, 03:27:02 AM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

Of course, what happens is that they tend to exhibit compulsive behaviour. They know that what they are doing is wrong and can have bad consequences for themselves and those close to them, and yet they do it. As I just commented in another thread, this is not a question of rationality, they enter into an emotional state that pushes them to do it.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Unless they are psychopaths, yes.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

I don't like the word victim for these cases, as they actively seek gambling, it's not like the victim of a robbery or rape who never wanted it to happen to them and yet it did. They are largely to blame for what happens to them, although if you have someone close to you, it is better to try to give them support to help them get out of it, especially if they are determined to try to quit, as it is not easy.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: bitzizzix on June 21, 2023, 03:30:17 AM
Such addicts realize what they are doing and what they are doing just to get the money to continue gambling and hope that their fatigue will return if they continue to gamble.
and crime cases such as gambling addicts by stealing and so on, there have been many cases like this, and after being caught or exposed they admit the results of their crimes to play gambling.
and this kind of case applies to other addicts and they do it to get money so they can fulfill their addiction in any way.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 21, 2023, 03:48:32 AM
They're being called addicts for a reason. An addict is somebody who is already out of his mind. It means he cannot anymore control the urges from within. I have read of many news related to crimes committed by addicted individuals. They're horrible. You can't imagine a sane person doing them. So I don't think these gambling addicts stealing something from other people would be bothered by the consequences of their crimes. Perhaps it will happen only after they've finished their rehab treatment and they already got back their sanity.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: len01 on June 21, 2023, 03:55:32 AM
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
first of all gambling addicts also have a sense of regret and he can also think twice about what they are going to do. but that feeling of guilt and positive thinking will just disappear and be forgotten with the addiction that has taken over his own mind.
for example, the gambler stole his wife's jewelry, even though before doing this the gambler thought about whether this was the right behavior, but the addiction in his mind replied that stealing his wife's jewelry would not be a problem because if he later won at gambling, he would definitely be replaced, but in the end he lost again.
and after that because of the defeat he got he came home with a sense of regret for stealing his wife's jewelery and he started to get emotional with gambling doing the same thing stealing valuables again in the hope of chasing defeat to take back the money he had lost at gambling and would do negative things like it's continuous.

so that the gambling addict has been controlled by thoughts that have always chased previous losses because of a sense of emotion that overpowers these positive thoughts.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Kasabus on June 21, 2023, 08:07:44 AM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Yes, I bet too that they are all aware of what they are doing. But because they are addicted, they cannot distinguish anything between right or wrong anymore or weigh some things first if it's good for their own family or bad as the only thing that matters for them at that very moment is to continue their activity by means of gambling.

Might be too unfortunate to think but that's their reality and without the family's support and help from the professionals, he/she might have a very rough and rocky road towards recovery.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: masulum on June 21, 2023, 10:15:58 AM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Well this is a must. but, apart from support from family and proffesional, he must aggree with a fact that he must be able to getting out from this addiction. I know a person here, he got support from all of his family to stop gambling, even paying off his debts because he promised to stop gambling, in fact, he still repeats the same thing, he gambles without thinking about the people who have supported him before, and owes back with more than amount before. What does that mean, even support from family and professionals will fail if there is no action to out from his addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 21, 2023, 11:06:18 AM
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

This ia a matter of shame we are talking about, some gamblers don't have this shame regardless of the conditions that warrant for such, they will always think its as a normal thing in life to do because their orientation and focused have been changed as well, they no longer sees whatever they do as not being wrong in their own sight, the family would have tried their best but when everything yielded nothing to show forth they will have to decided on leaving such person alone since they believe he's natured enough to be always corrected for doing wrong things all the time.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: lienfaye on June 21, 2023, 11:56:47 AM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: coin-investor on June 21, 2023, 12:17:17 PM


A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They do, but their obsession to gamble gets the best of their logical thinking, some obsessive gamblers are responsible fathers behind them but they kept their obsessive gambling because they cannot control themselves, these gamblers need help and sympathy than being judged.

They only feel remorse after they satisfy their cravings for gamblers, like all types of addicts they need the help of professionals, I talked to one obsessive gambler and they do want to get help but they are helpless and don't want to be judged as weak so they prefer to hide their addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: BitcoinTurk on June 21, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
Before stating my answers for all three questions I would like to mention the following;

As far as I have observed I can divide the gambling addicts into two;

Some gambling addicts constantly gamble within their own budget simply because they can't beat their own desires, and if their budget runs out they stop gambling until they can find money again.

Some gambling addicts, find money by performing all kinds of activities to gamble and consume this money in gambling as in the event described.

To answer the questions by generalizing;

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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?


Especially the gambling addicts that I mentioned as the second do not think about themselves or the people around them when they are going to gamble. In other words, it doesn't matter that if there is a mistake to be made, harm will come to him/her or to his/her environment.

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2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?

Of course, except when they gamble these people think about how the people around them are affected by these situations but this is not the case when they gamble. In addition, they do not think about what can be done for these people in a solution-oriented manner.  

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3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Yes, unfortunately, after a certain point gambling becomes the standard of living for such people.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: danherbias07 on June 21, 2023, 01:21:25 PM
First, a good story, and it was proven who did it, so a big sigh to that.
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
No, I don't think so. It's not different with drug addicts. They will only realize the consequences when they are done with the money, or spent all of it in their gambling habit.
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Yes and no. There are those who feel guilty about what they did and they might tell the truth after the money is spent. But as much as possible, if it could stay hidden then they will not tell anything. If nobody will react then it will stay the same way until they are caught.
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
That's why discipline is much needed in gambling. When I was a child was taught about not being greedy, and avoiding addictive substances and activities. Up until now I still carry the lesson given to me by the one who looked after me. That is also the reason why I know to myself that I won't be a gambling addict. Every time I use the spare money that I have and it's a loss, I just give up and let time flow, take a rest. I know I can gamble again some other time when I have spare money again. I don't need to steal or anything just to satisfy my hobby.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: famososMuertos on June 21, 2023, 01:37:41 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Undoubtedly, this topic is something that should be dealt with and discussed, but we are a betting board, most of whom here have a signature on them and bring up topics like these asking for advice, about doing this or that.

It is very rare to find here issues related to betting in essence to gambling, but if topics with addicts to betting, it seems that although they do not make bets it is easy for them to judge or create "issues" about it.

I recommend that you find an expert, I just wrote it, the game is not the problem, it's the individuals, if you have that problem you have it the same with drink, marijuana, pain relievers etc.

As for your questions, they can be answered by an addict or an expert on the subject of addictions, and perhaps I have read that some users here have been addicted, but it is always an individual experience.
Topics of gambling addicts.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450381.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5454650.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456913.0


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 21, 2023, 02:22:49 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Sterbens on June 21, 2023, 02:43:51 PM
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

Most gambling addicts would not think much of this, as their hope of winning has overcome fear. Whatever the end result is losing or winning, they will still do it again, winning will make things very enjoyable for them and losing is a natural thing that will most likely happen more often, when they experience defeat they will think that today. they were unlucky and then they will do it again tomorrow with great confidence to win.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.

Gambling is fun and fun things will turn into a hobby for happiness, they will not realize and will not really care how much money they have spent, it is difficult for them to get out of the zone because their mind is always focused on hoping for a win . They will not be able to stop while they have money or valuables to gamble with and this cycle will continue until they realize they have lost everything they had when they needed it most.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: borovichok on June 21, 2023, 02:55:12 PM
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.
One thing is to be an addict; the other is to accept; most gamblers never acknowledge that they are addicts, which worsens the condition in question. Gambling is an addiction; one must know when to gamble and when to stop; it is our decision to either quit when we are not making profits or to continue our quest for big earnings, recording hugh losses. Addicts are the most catastrophic kind of gamblers considering they are willing to do all in their power to place wagers on games, whether for profits or losses, which they accept and repeat the entire process daily.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: bittraffic on June 21, 2023, 03:12:36 PM

Yes. They are even planning already what to do if they lost their capital. I guess the husband planned it all to steal the jewelry, he just didn't count one situation where the cleaning lady will be arrested. Gamblers are still human though, they feel bad just like everyone else, and they'd be sympathetic as well when something bad happens to someone.

The itchy feeling is just too much to resist like the smoker who would have to walk a mile just to buy a pack of cigarettes in the middle of the night.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: aioc on June 21, 2023, 03:47:07 PM


A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They are blinded and good reasoning will not suffice them, they have created a monster ego so they will not listen even to the best advice, I have seen the worse in a gambling addict the guy steal from his manager of 20 years he losses all his retirement benefits and go to jail.

He only feels sorry when he has done irreparable damage to himself and his family, which is why families should always be on the look or watch if any of their family is becoming addiction gambling, they need early intervention before everything is too late.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on June 21, 2023, 03:49:21 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Gambling addicts are not some subhuman trash, although some can be, and act such a way.

The very problem in addiction, whether its from gambling, drugs, alcohol, food etc. all points to the same physical cause. The brain chemistry of an addict is going haywire and is not as it should be. This Dysbalance in for example, dopamine receptors that cannot work properly after being abused by dopamine draining drugs or behavior.

So what it really is is a neurological and mental illness that needs to be treated professionally, otherwise the individual does not stand much of a chance beating it him/herself. And thats the point in which things become desperate.

So the things they do and say is understandable, even if its not tolerable.
I get what you're trying to say here, and I sympathize with them as much as the next guy who's aware of the risks and dangers of being addicted to gambling but at the same time, if you let yourself be stuck in that situation, cause let's face it even though your brain's going haywire you still have agency over your actions and words which in all manners of the sense makes you liable for every action you'd take from here on out, including the use of intervention to prevent further succumbing to addiction. That's why we have people who could quit smoking, taking drugs and all that out of their own volition or assisted by a professional, it all starts within the self.

So you can't really absolve them of any crimes they will commit just because their dopamine receptors are fucked. That wouldn't hold up well in court.

Of course we cannot let them off so easily, just because they are addicted - they still made their own decisions, whilst being warned by others not to do them. Everything is their responsibility and in no way do I condone such actions. Why should someone be spared the consequences of their own actions? That is completely fine by me.

What I am saying is that addiction is not well understood. And I am certain that if addicted criminals get the professional help they need, while in prison, then there is almost a 100% chance that they will keep going against the law once they get out of prison.

Rehabilitation is important.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Davidvictorson on June 21, 2023, 04:21:44 PM
~snip~
Gambling addiction is so complex to understand. I wouldn't be surprised if the woman in the story tried to keep tried to protect her husband's addiction. The most important thing to a gambling addict is to satisfy that urge to gamble just like a heroine addict doesn't mind sleeping with the seller for the drug. In these cases, they aren't worried or concerned about the consequences of such action rather their aim is the immediate gratification involved.

Addiction is simply the pursuit of immediate gratification and the addiction would go the ends of the world no matter what the consequences might be to be gratified. But for gambling addicts, I have always wondered does the gratifications comes from gambling or from winning?


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: madnessteat on June 21, 2023, 04:37:32 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.

In fact, if a person suffers from gambling addiction, it makes no difference how much money he wins. He enjoys the very process of gambling, because the release of endorphins and adrenaline into the blood occurs both when he wins and when he loses (a little less). A gambling addict is more likely to lose all the money he has won because he does not care about it; he cares about his emotions.

And as for the help of loved ones, I absolutely agree with you. Any addiction is easier to beat when you have the support of people close to you.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: lalabotax on June 21, 2023, 04:48:30 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
if it's a real gambling addict, I kinda doubt if they even thought about that. on the contrary, usually they will not think about anything other than high expectations to benefit from this gambling. maybe what they have in mind is how to get money and do gambling activities again Until they can win when in reality they Keep losing and losing until their money is completely gone, until They sell what they have, And also they have a lot of debt for gambling. we have found lots of negative effects from gambling addiction. That's why we have to be good at controlling ourselves and managing everything related to gambling so that we can avoid this addictive condition.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on June 21, 2023, 04:48:38 PM
~snip~
But for gambling addicts, I have always wondered does the gratifications comes from gambling or from winning?
One thing I've learnt is that, hope is what drives a gambling addict, and is how they get gratified, gratification does not necessarily come from gambling or from winning, if it comes from gambling, the urge to gamble will disappear after the gambler have gambled, and if it does come from winning, the the gambler will not gamble any more after winning the desired money, but we realized that even after a gambling addict have won money, the drive to keep gambling even increases because now, he or she doesn't have to look far to get money to gamble, atleast, until the entire wining is gambled away..

Gambling addicts live in the deceptive version of hope, gambling addict are always hopeful they would win in the next bet even after losing several bets already, this deceptive hope keeps them gambling until the entire bankroll is empty, then they count that day as their unlucky day, and stay hopeful that tomorrow will be better, and tomorrow, the circle continues from where it stopped the previous day,.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Rruchi man on June 21, 2023, 04:50:57 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
Addicts to other habits that do not have an effect on others rarely care about consequences or have accepted to live with the consequences of their actions since it only concerns them, but addiction to gambling is different because it has potentials to affect other people very close to you.

An addicted gambler either caring or not caring for the consequences on others depends on the nature of the individual. For an individual who asides being an addict is considerate, considering the consequences on people close to them can be enough reason to stop gambling or try to ensure it never gets to that. For an addicted gambler who is inconsiderate by nature, they will not care or consider others, they will selfishly do things and expect other people close to them to understand and live with the consequences.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 22, 2023, 10:22:11 AM
Most gambling addicts would not think much of this, as their hope of winning has overcome fear. Whatever the end result is losing or winning, they will still do it again, winning will make things very enjoyable for them and losing is a natural thing that will most likely happen more often, when they experience defeat they will think that today. they were unlucky and then they will do it again tomorrow with great confidence to win.
The desire to win has closed their eyes to realize that winning at gambling is not as easy as they think. They can suffer even a big loss, especially if they can't stop. And they also will not see the circumstances around them because they only focus on playing gambling and trying to win.

Gambling is fun and fun things will turn into a hobby for happiness, they will not realize and will not really care how much money they have spent, it is difficult for them to get out of the zone because their mind is always focused on hoping for a win . They will not be able to stop while they have money or valuables to gamble with and this cycle will continue until they realize they have lost everything they had when they needed it most.
Yes, gambling is fun but that doesn't mean we have to play gambling for a long time. But apparently, that doesn't make gambling addicted gamblers realize it because they can't stop that easily, let alone after getting the win they want. Especially if they still see a balance in their account, it makes them want to continue playing gambling and maybe until their money runs out.

One thing is to be an addict; the other is to accept; most gamblers never acknowledge that they are addicts, which worsens the condition in question. Gambling is an addiction; one must know when to gamble and when to stop; it is our decision to either quit when we are not making profits or to continue our quest for big earnings, recording hugh losses. Addicts are the most catastrophic kind of gamblers considering they are willing to do all in their power to place wagers on games, whether for profits or losses, which they accept and repeat the entire process daily.
Addicted gamblers will not want to admit that they are already a gambling addict. They really need to be given understanding by people close to them so they can realize and admit that the problem of gambling addiction has befallen them. Thus, this gambling addict can immediately know how to reduce his gambling time. Gambling addicts will only focus on playing gambling and not pay attention to other things, even if they win. They don't stop immediately after winning but will play a few more rounds.

In fact, if a person suffers from gambling addiction, it makes no difference how much money he wins. He enjoys the very process of gambling, because the release of endorphins and adrenaline into the blood occurs both when he wins and when he loses (a little less). A gambling addict is more likely to lose all the money he has won because he does not care about it; he cares about his emotions.

And as for the help of loved ones, I absolutely agree with you. Any addiction is easier to beat when you have the support of people close to you.
It's true what you say. If someone is already a gambling addict, he will only think about gambling. This can trigger him to become a severe gambling addict who can no longer be saved and may lose all his valuables, including his family. And even so, that wouldn't stop him from giving up gambling but instead he wanted to gamble even more to recover his losses. He may think he must be able to win a lot of money to recover all his losses but this is not the case.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 22, 2023, 10:57:40 AM

Yes. They are even planning already what to do if they lost their capital.

Some may do but am very sure many don't and it will meet them of a sudden when they came to he realization that they have lost the bet or game, some never give any form of attention to the fact that they may loose or even device an alternative means to recover the lost if the worse happened.

The itchy feeling is just too much to resist like the smoker who would have to walk a mile just to buy a pack of cigarettes in the middle of the night.

Yes without thinking of the possible consequences in doing that, such people will later forbids taken such action whenever it's already too late to make amend after which they have been served with the consequences already.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Russlenat on June 22, 2023, 01:06:59 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.
When the mind is controlled by the desire to gamble, a person cannot think clearly because all they want is to gamble. They will think of nothing else except gambling and getting a win. They will not think about losing because they are probably used to it. But when they get wins above $10, they will be happy and continue with it until they can win big money.

A gambling addict will find it difficult to stop if he cannot realize that he is a gambling addict, especially if he cannot think about the defeats he has experienced. This will only make him deeper into gambling without being able to get out. And yes, he needs help from those around him to get out of gambling.

That is the most common mindset for gamblers when they are looking playing because why not? Everybody wanted to win and that's everybody's goal, there's no right or wrong about that. It's just that their mindset lacks something, it's the mindset to know the boundaries where a line shouldn't be crossed at any cost and that is the time to call it a day.

Without this, you will have no certain goal other than making money and sooner or later, you will find yourself chasing for the money and instead of making money, you'll find yourself in a spot where you didn't wanted yourself to be in as that will too late anymore.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: demonica on June 22, 2023, 02:04:56 PM
For me, there are different levels of being addicted to gambling. And one of the reason that you can really say someone is highly addicted to gambling is when the person starts stealing and is willing to do unjust things just to satisfy his gambling desires.
I feel bad for the cleaning person for getting dragged in that kind of situation where she's just doing her job. I may be wrong but I think those people who are willing to steal, don't feel guilty about their wrongdoings unless they got caught. Cause if they don't get caught, they will just continue doing things like that since they think that they can get away with it.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Gozie51 on June 22, 2023, 02:22:32 PM

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.



A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

They are just like someone going to steal. The main purpose is to go for the act first and they are mostly hopeful for a success.


2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Once in the act, nothing else matters. So they might feel remorse afterwards or not but that doesn't stop a repetition of the act until they get help.


3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

An addict is at the mercy of himself. If he does the act and succeed he benefit from it and if he doesn't then he suffers the more from his uncontrollable actions.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Plaguedeath on June 22, 2023, 02:28:19 PM
Gambling addicts never bother about their actions because they mind is short and just want to achieve the profit they have dreamed. But when there's no chance anymore to use money to gamble, they will regret what they have done and they will start to blame themselves. Mostly their will become lunatic, depressed, and antisocial, they might want to commit suicide. But the bad thing is, his family will need to responsible and pay all of his debt.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Kakmakr on June 22, 2023, 02:29:20 PM
You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  :(


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: retreat on June 22, 2023, 02:55:45 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

As far as I know, gamblers who are addicted usually don't think long ahead, they are usually short minded and tend to solve their problems with violence. In some cases, they become more aggressive and are willing to hurt those around them, if these people stand up to them and call gambling bad.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Usually they will not think about the feelings of the people around them. They tend to only think about themselves and their gambling. These addicts don't even have a sense of remorse for the actions they take which can harm not only them, but also the people around them.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Cling18 on June 22, 2023, 03:27:21 PM
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

As far as I know, gamblers who are addicted usually don't think long ahead, they are usually short minded and tend to solve their problems with violence. In some cases, they become more aggressive and are willing to hurt those around them, if these people stand up to them and call gambling bad.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Usually they will not think about the feelings of the people around them. They tend to only think about themselves and their gambling. These addicts don't even have a sense of remorse for the actions they take which can harm not only them, but also the people around them.

Gambling addicts only want to fulfill their desire to gamble. They only want to feel satisfied and follow their urge to bet regardless of the possible results. They gamble with no direction, no target goal, no restrictions, and no fear, therefore they aren't disturbed by the results of their actions. They are also not concern about the feelings of people around them because if yes, it will be easy for them to stop and quit. Gambling addiction is an emotional condition that needs a professional help so advices or even the negative effects of their actions will not affect them anymore.
I think those who are just starting to fall for gambling addiction would still be able to find remorse about how their wrong decisions would affect them but it could only drag them to the worse situation of falling more into addiction.
I agree that gambling addicts are blinded to the long term effect because what they want is just to enjoy their present gambling activity.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: uneng on June 22, 2023, 04:23:17 PM
You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.  
The lack of self-control which leads to seeking dopamine at all costs must be common to every addicted gamblers, but the narcissist trait isn't. It will really depend on the personality of each gambler if they feel remorse after all or not. Many addicts are good people who just can't control themselves.

They don't want to hurt and cause damage to others, so they feel depressed after they act wrongly, while the dangerous ones just feel like the whole society exists to serve them, to supply their needs and demands, so right after they do something harmful, they already start planning their next wrongdoing, until they are busted and imprisioned for the good and safety of the society.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: skarais on June 22, 2023, 04:36:44 PM
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The lack of self-control which leads to seeking dopamine at all costs must be common to every addicted gamblers, but the narcissist trait isn't. It will really depend on the personality of each gambler if they feel remorse after all or not. Many addicts are good people who just can't control themselves.

They don't want to hurt and cause damage to others, so they feel depressed after they act wrongly, while the dangerous ones just feel like the whole society exists to serve them, to supply their needs and demands, so right after they do something harmful, they already start planning their next wrongdoing, until they are busted and imprisioned for the good and safety of the society.
I think the gambler you are talking about is classified as a compulsive gambler. They are no longer able to control themselves so they keep repeating the same mistakes, so such an addiction cannot be overcome easily. Basically compulsive gamblers are almost the same as those who abuse drugs, so that their addiction can only be handled by experts because they are not only financially disturbed, but also mentally disturbed.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: lizarder on June 22, 2023, 04:52:15 PM
A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
In the case of addictive gambling, they no longer think about the actions and other effects they receive from gambling. But rather think about hallucinations to get big wins from the gambling they do, so that their mindset shifts to the verge of uncertainty because it is related to psychology.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
Regret will come later when they lose everything they have, I think human instincts are there and they can feel how themselves and others feel from the effects of the irresponsible gambling that they live. It's just that sometimes they are difficult to control because of the influence of gambling addiction that has been embedded in their minds.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Initially all gamblers feel conscious of the actions they are doing, but because the habit is done repeatedly it makes them addicted and difficult to control. There are some gamblers who are victims of other people at first, but after the addiction is no longer able to be controlled, they will try to make other people their victims.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: molsewid on June 22, 2023, 04:54:17 PM
You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  :(
I myself felt that impulsiveness but not in gambling yes it is very hard to stop and also if you are not aware that you are being impulsive you will do anything without thinking the consequences of it, addiction is very hard to deal with on your own it really needs help by professionals with meds and therapy and of course your support system.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: STT on June 22, 2023, 05:31:31 PM
The reality would be very simple in that the longer term effects are being ignored in favor of the short term high.   Like any similar fixation that would lead to negatives eventually but immediately if you feel better its chasing a high that is causing the problem.   This behaviour can be fixed but is hard to do all by yourself as the brain forms bad habits.   Care is a difficult word to classify this with as the person is maladjusted purely to the short term, underlying causes can be multiple like grief or poor health and that might be the best way to turn someone around by treating those negative events in their life.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: tusandii on June 23, 2023, 01:57:59 AM
You have to be some kind of narcissist, if you do not have any negative thoughts and feelings about your gambling addiction. Let's not forget that a part of gambling addiction, originates from other problems that people might have. (A lot of people cannot control it.... they might be addicted to the "feel good" dopamine that "wins" gives them.

All of this happens in the brain... and this can cause long-term addiction.. like being addicted to drugs or alcohol. I had a family member that was addicted to alcohol and the psychologist said, it was a sickness. (self inflicted .... but still a sickness)

These people need help, even if they brought it on themselves.  :(
Addiction to gambling definitely exists and is always experienced by anyone who starts gambling.
Gambling addiction is also a consequence of what they do in this industry so there must be awareness and concern to minimize the consequences that are getting worse.
Even though it is difficult to understand and care about the risks or consequences of gambling, at least if there is awareness they can always think clearly and have limits when betting.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: adzino on June 23, 2023, 02:09:36 AM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
This is how a gambling addict starts to harm people around them. They start to lie and steal from people that are close to them.

1. Yes they do, but in the end, it is the addiction that wins. They think that "it won't hurt if they don't know". They end up thinking that they will win and will be able to return what they stole (or doesn't even bother to and use it to fund his future gambling activities).

2. Maybe, maybe not. But most of them does live in guilt (hence there are people that puts an end to their own life).

3. Some are yes. They would take as much advantage they can. Sometimes they even use tactics such as manipulating someone to fund their activities.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Nrcewker on June 23, 2023, 02:20:46 AM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: michellee on June 23, 2023, 02:40:15 AM
The reality would be very simple in that the longer term effects are being ignored in favor of the short term high.   Like any similar fixation that would lead to negatives eventually but immediately if you feel better its chasing a high that is causing the problem.   This behaviour can be fixed but is hard to do all by yourself as the brain forms bad habits.   Care is a difficult word to classify this with as the person is maladjusted purely to the short term, underlying causes can be multiple like grief or poor health and that might be the best way to turn someone around by treating those negative events in their life.
Those who gamble for the long term at least experience the impact by losing and losing money at the gambling table. They will not be aware of what they have done because the impact they feel will not be immediately visible. But the loss will surely come to them and will show clearly in the long term.

And psychologically, this also molds them into someone who doesn't care about other things around them so they won't know what's happening. This level of concern will decrease when they are too deep in gambling and all they have in mind is gambling. They may also experience mental disorders if the level of gambling addiction is very high because they don't know how to stop.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Docnaster on June 23, 2023, 03:13:14 AM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.
I doubt this cuz I have friends who are so addicted to gambling but will never lament any time he loses money on gambling, yet he's not rich. U necessarily must be rich before getting addicted. Gambling a game of fun but seems more than just a game to some people. But sometimes, people that play it for fun earns up winning more than people that a deeply addicted. That is because, whenever u do something for the joy and love of doing it rather than as a result of depression, u easily get results. People that gamble are bordered with the consequences yet will still try more chances to see if they could win. To this kind of people, gambling has become a secret society of no going back ( they have no choice)


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 23, 2023, 03:18:40 AM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing.

That's true, it's common with their calibre all because they have the enough time to gamble and also have enough money to spend on gambling, we rarely see the negative effect on th all because they can use money to avoid any form of public embarrassment while those that doesn't have money get the most disadvantages of it because they can't cover up with some things because of lack of money and they remain being affected for gambling addiction.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: len01 on June 23, 2023, 03:51:15 AM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing.

That's true, it's common with their calibre all because they have the enough time to gamble and also have enough money to spend on gambling, we rarely see the negative effect on th all because they can use money to avoid any form of public embarrassment while those that doesn't have money get the most disadvantages of it because they can't cover up with some things because of lack of money and they remain being affected for gambling addiction.

slightly disagree with this because from some experience and research I am not only rich and have lots of money who can be addicted to gambling but middle class people are also more often addicted to gambling.
like some people i know he was a worker somewhere on less than $200 and he was always gambling with a $100 budget hoping this money could be doubled to be more. but unfortunately this method is wrong and the money is lost in gambling and he feels like chasing it continuously and finally becomes addicted.

so that addiction is not only for the rich, even among the middle class someone can be addicted because of certain problems, such as chasing after losing money in gambling.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: LDL on June 23, 2023, 04:41:08 AM
If those who become addicted to gambling had thought about their actions, they would not have become addicted to gambling. When a gambler makes a profit in gambling, he forgets all past losses and resumes gambling with renewed vigour. Again, when the gambler faces a big loss, even though he feels temporarily remorseful, he cannot bring himself out of gambling. After abstaining from gambling for a while, when the betting capital is at hand, he forgets his past regrets and becomes addicted to gambling again.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on June 23, 2023, 06:22:10 AM
There is nothing to think about once you become a gambling addict, your sense of thinking will be shut down, and the only thing left in your brain is when you will make it with gambling, you will keep dreaming about how you will buy a mansion and Lamborghini.

If you put in the strength to change a gambler, you could get somewhere for a few days and weeks, and once you leave them alone, they will start dreaming of the possibility that they could win a shot, a single shot will turn into 100s of a failed attempt and money would have been spent too many times already.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 23, 2023, 11:27:37 AM
That is the most common mindset for gamblers when they are looking playing because why not? Everybody wanted to win and that's everybody's goal, there's no right or wrong about that. It's just that their mindset lacks something, it's the mindset to know the boundaries where a line shouldn't be crossed at any cost and that is the time to call it a day.

Without this, you will have no certain goal other than making money and sooner or later, you will find yourself chasing for the money and instead of making money, you'll find yourself in a spot where you didn't wanted yourself to be in as that will too late anymore.
It's not wrong to have a mindset like that but they should be able to think that what they think is wrong. If only they knew the limits, they would not have lost their minds and would have gambled what they could afford. And when they can control themselves and stay within their limits, they will not chase money or want to try to make money. But when they are already in a gambling addiction, they will not think about such things because they don't care about anything else. They don't even know anything is happening to the people around them because they are only focused on their actions.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: slapper on June 24, 2023, 10:07:44 AM
The scenario you paint unveils the profound lows to which gambling addiction can plunge people, highlighting it's more than an individual concern - it's a societal challenge.

As to your queries, they're subjects of heated debate in addiction research. Some suggest that addicts, fueled by the compelling urge to gamble, may lose sight of the extensive implications, blurring ethical guidelines.

Guilt infers recognition of harm done, often unclear to the gambler. And regarding your final question, it's crucial to acknowledge that addicts aren't emotionless; they're ensnared in an addiction cycle that may seem invincible.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: CarnagexD on June 24, 2023, 12:05:54 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Of course they do. And you call them successful gamblers. They are those who can get profits out of their gambling. In contrary, Those who don't are just losers. Those are the people who gamble because they're addicts, bored, and cannot control themselves. And yes I would say that gambling addicts never take consideration or any second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them. They just act on something impulsively. They don't know how to embrace risk or even cannot measure the risk they are trying to put in the table. And that's just awful. Not only they are making their own life miserable but also the people around them are being affected of their own addiction.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: piebeyb on June 24, 2023, 12:47:45 PM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.
Yes, maybe you are right, but the reality is that not many rich people become gambling addicts, and they can even afford to spend big money every day just to have fun. Of course, casinos will be happy to see gamblers like that, the more addicts who gamble, the more profits the casino will continue to make. . BTW about the middle class I think I have a story there are some people I know say he is my friend and he plays gambling from the results of the money he gets from online motorcycle taxi jobs.

He always spends his earnings on gambling so that his family leaves him and that's why people from the lower middle class also have an impact on addiction, not only for the rich, after all, the rich already have big money and of course they play just for fun with their money, not to earn money. because they are obviously good at doing business in contrast to the middle class where they hope to get big money from gambling but it turns out they get nothing but bankruptcy.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: klidex on June 24, 2023, 07:57:42 PM
Gambling addiction is generally found in people who are very rich and can afford losing. A middle class man only gambles, in order to make some extra income for its family. It’s very rare that any middle class person gets addicted to gambling, as he won’t have sufficient money to gamble more, if he is facing losses. Yes gambling addiction really affects the family, as people here sometimes gamble the money, that is needed for daily necessities. They also become mentally unstable and hence bids farewell from the responsibilities that they need to make for their families.
Yes, maybe you are right, but the reality is that not many rich people become gambling addicts, and they can even afford to spend big money every day just to have fun. Of course, casinos will be happy to see gamblers like that, the more addicts who gamble, the more profits the casino will continue to make. . BTW about the middle class I think I have a story there are some people I know say he is my friend and he plays gambling from the results of the money he gets from online motorcycle taxi jobs.

He always spends his earnings on gambling so that his family leaves him and that's why people from the lower middle class also have an impact on addiction, not only for the rich, after all, the rich already have big money and of course they play just for fun with their money, not to earn money. because they are obviously good at doing business in contrast to the middle class where they hope to get big money from gambling but it turns out they get nothing but bankruptcy.
I think there is a difference here between the addiction of the rich and the addiction of the middle class, is that right?
If the rich are addicted, it's just because the rich can always meet their needs for gambling and addiction to have fun.
Meanwhile, middle class people will be addicted to gambling because they hope to get big wins from gambling and make changes to their economic life.
Or is there even another explanation? I'm a little confused by this discussion.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Vaskiy on June 24, 2023, 08:13:09 PM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Casdinyard on June 24, 2023, 10:23:04 PM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.
Au contraire my guy. The capacity to gamble as much as you want without virtually losing a significant portion of your riches is what makes upper class people as easy a target if not easier than all of us. Just look at Drake right here, making bets in the millions almost everyday with no signs of even stopping to take it all in before he locks the bet down. It's stupid and funny at the same time, and this alone will make most of us think that he's a gambling addict (which I know he is) but we're blindsided by the fact that he could spend as much money as he wants.

Just cause you got a lot of money doesn't mean you can't be addicted to gambling, I'd argue that it would even be easier to reel you in since you can just bet again and again, and the only thing that's really ever stopping you is your sense of control.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Asuspawer09 on June 24, 2023, 10:41:22 PM
Gambling if not checked cam lead to a devastating condition for a gambler's life. As a gambler when you allow yourself to be controlled by gambling instinct instead of having control over it, it repercussions doesn't particularly affects only you but goes beyond just you to those around you.

A woman was giving an account of how her gambling husband has been problematic to her with his gambling attitude. She gave an instance of how her husband had to steal her jewelry and sold it to get money to carry on his gambling enterprise. And unsuspecting of her husband the woman accused their come-and-go house-cleaner of making away with her jewelry when the cleaner must have come to the house for her cleaning services that very faithful day. She got the cleaner arrested, but then, investigations where carried out which it was uncovered that the woman's husband was the one who stole her jewelry for gambling and not the cleaner.

It is difficult to grasp or imagined the level of humiliation the innocent cleaner must have faced for an act she knows nothing about.

A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

So your not actually going to get eaten by this kind of addiction if you don't allow yourself to get eaten by gambling. That just means that all you need is discipline in order to have control over your gambling addiction, for sure it wasn't easy to get rid of it but you could reduce your gambling from daily to weekly to monthly to nothing I think that could help you control your emotions at least.

I think yes, this gambling addict in my opinion for sure have second thoughts on what things they are doing I mean it wasn't like they are some kind of psychopath right that is just thinking of the wrong things to do, especially after they do the wrong things and then the consequences of it hits them, they surely going to regret it. They feel at least for sure even though we think that most of the things they don't really make affect them I don't think they are immune to this kind of emotion they are still human.



Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Mr.right85 on June 24, 2023, 10:57:17 PM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.
That’s often the case and you know why,
Like we have in every organization, there is a bottle neck form of stratification where those at the base are often the most affected, the poorer and the minions that makes those at the top stronger.

So yeah, the middle and lower class will always constitute the gambling population but, there stakes are often less compared to what one wealthy gambler would put out on a single bet. It could cover many stakes for a week.

Somehow, they don’t care much because, they’ve got a lot to spare but for the middle and lower class, it’s more about stability and survival. So they care less about the consequences.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: qwertyup23 on June 24, 2023, 11:57:52 PM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.

I somehow disagree with your post.

Regardless of the status of a person, whether be rich, middle class, or poor, everyone is prone to gambling addiction due to its nature.

I also disagree with your statement that the rich will not be addicted to gambling. With almost endless capital at their disposal, they can certainly be addicted to gambling by betting almost everyday. With this kind of money, they are prone to gamble at least almost everyday to feel that adrenaline in a game. Sure, some might not focus on winning money but they get addicted with the feeling of adrenaline on their games.

Though this may be the case, if a person thinks about the satisfaction of gambling and not about the profits, they are less likely to get addicted to the act. Some gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their actions but they still let their addiction cloud their judgement just to satisfy themselves with it.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: rahmad2nd on June 25, 2023, 12:11:35 AM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.

Actually, there are many arguments that could argue as to what you say. there is also, the claim that most addicts are lower class people. with assumptions, gambling on the lottery. why the lottery, people who are less intellectual tend to think if they get the lottery jackpot they will be rich instantly. in fact, the percentage of the probability that they will win the lottery is very small. but the fact is, they can buy tickets even every day. there are a lot of people there willing to reduce the need that is in their interests, in order to buy a lottery ticket.

However, on the other hand I also agree with what you say. in fact, there have been claims that middle-class people have the potential to become gambling addicts. but whatever it is, the fact is that addiction knows no one's caste. even all that, depending on the habits of each of them. we have reviewed in several threads, there are several famous figures, be it athletes, musicians, influencers, and many others who have become gambling addicts. in fact, they spend an enormous amount of money each gambling session. well, referring to the title of this thread, do gambling addicts care about the consequences of their actions.
IMO, the answer is relative to each individual. because, we cannot generalize to all gambling addicts.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Dave1 on June 25, 2023, 12:15:20 AM
Most of the gambling addicts were middle class people. This isn't known to the outer world, just because we belong to the same category we will be able to predict the reality happening around. Rich won't get addicted to gambling easily, because rich never think of the winning. When one thinks about win and making money, automatically it leads to gambling addiction. With the middle class category they somehow control within them, at very rare instances we'll be able to see those people disturbing the people around them.

Could be true, but I think rich people can also be addicted too, maybe they have the self control, but we all know that once you involved yourself in gambling, it's very hard to get out of it specially if you have a lot of money to burn in the middle.

We might as well add the category of lower class as they are more prone to being addicted. The simply reason that they wanted to get out of their status in life and so they will go out and bet their money just for the sake of winning big in a casino. Seen those kind of people in traditional based, and for sure they know the consequences and yet they go and take that risk to fell into the category of being gambling addicts.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Magoo8 on June 25, 2023, 12:26:07 AM
Addicts don't care about what they do to others. This is gambling, drugs, or anything.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Bitcoin_people on June 25, 2023, 12:47:06 AM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
A gambler does not plan for his future life when he becomes deeply addicted to gambling. They do not consider the consequences of their actions on their families. When one person becomes a gambler in a family, one person is enough to destroy that family. When a family becomes a gambler it creates the biggest scandal for that family. Moreover, the family has no value to the society and the children of the gambler are humiliated by various people. When a gambler becomes so addicted to gambling that he steals money from his family to gamble later. If the gambler's wife earns money by working, then the gambler beats his wife and gambles with money, there is never happiness in that family. Such activities of the gambler have an impact on his family and there are various paradigmatic discussions about him in the society. And they are as addicted to gambling as drugs are to the blood of a drug addict.  People who are addicted to gambling like this have admitted to addiction in their lifestyle. When a gambler becomes deeply addicted to gambling, it becomes very difficult for the gambler to come back from it.


Title: Re: Do gambling addicts bother about the consequences of their actions?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on June 25, 2023, 08:04:50 AM
Ok, today I decided to look around me and view those that are gambling addicts, there is one truth that's been hiding from me before, all of these gamblers are from poor backgrounds, they are from families that have fallen apart, mother is living separate from father, one was an abandoned child that no one in the family cares about, one lost his mother at a very small age and the father is nowhere to be found, none of them came from a solid rocked family.

Is it fine to say that this was why they are addicted to gambling? Is it fine to say that poor way of living their lives is a part to why they see gambling as their only savior and final way out? Because it's true that only the poor people become a gambling addict, to them, this is their only chance to have a good life.

The reason why I gamble without much worries is because I made more money than what I use for gambling, it's not even up to 10% of my monthly income and I also do not use more than I have budgeted for gambling too, maybe I don't become an addict because I don't see gambling as my problem solver?