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June 20, 2023, 09:58:09 PM
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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
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June 20, 2023, 10:06:16 PM
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

Honestly, these people know what they are doing. They know what's right and wrong. They know the consequences of their actions. They know all the associated risks they are dealing with. But yet they ended up being addicted? It's because they are relying and depending on gambling as a last resort to somehow change their lives but in the end, the other way around happened.

The temptation of gambling is always there especially every time they lose. That's why as much as possible, they will think of a way how to gamble regardless of what will happen later on. Again, they are aware of the risks but still choose to face them.

Never-ending cycle and only them can help themselves.

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June 20, 2023, 10:30:18 PM
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2. Surely the person will feel guilt at some point. Maybe at the beginning the thoughts were we couldn't have caught. Later surely the person will feel guilt for the act as the loss will surely pain him.
Addicted gamblers don’t feel anything whenever they start gambling, they believe it’s normal, but after wasting lots of money that’s when they are going to start regretting why they gambled with that kind of huge amount of money, but by then it will be late already, money lost can not be recovered back. But the most annoying part is that if they end up making another money again, they will end up going back to gamble again, they are going to forget about their past experience.

not all addicts actually know they are addicted. Only a few that knows they are addicted seek for help. Most addicts don't actually know they are addicted. They simply see it as a way of life.
You are right, when you tell some people that they are addicted to gambling, they will deny and claim they are just gambling for fun and they can stop it whenever they want and they can control themselves, few percentage of addicted gamblers will agree that they are truly addicted, higher percentage will claim they are not addicted, but from their behavior you will know that they are truly addicted.

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June 20, 2023, 10:41:36 PM
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Unfortunately there are a lot of people who simply can't control themselves when it comes to gambling and it can quite often affect others around them, which is where the real problems lie. 

1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?  Some do, some don't, sometimes they can't help it though.  The ones who can't help it (they are truly addicted) I do feel bad for. 

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  Again, some do, some don't, just depends on each particular individual.


3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?  See above answers.

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June 20, 2023, 11:03:42 PM
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Once you're addicted into something, you'd be aware of things such as its consequences but that is different from knowing the downsides. You'll just be too hooked  up with a speficic behavior or habit as part of an impulse to do it on a daily basis.
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
Aware is different from knowing, for those people who are confused. As I've mentioned, knowing is having idea about a particular thing but with deeper understanding.  In the case of addiction, not only in gambling, they know what they are doing but they cannot explain why do they do it too often. They know the consequences but they cannot help it 'coz of the 'satisfaction' they get from doing a repetitive behavior. This is why professional help should be always advised if you know someone who is having addiction 'coz they won't have the initiative to do so, most of the time.

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June 20, 2023, 11:11:01 PM
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I would also like to add that probably, in the mind if a gambling addicted person the ultimate consequence of their actions is to hit a jackpot which would cover all the losses accumulated through years and would allow them to improve their life in a substantial way (assuming they would not go back gambling the next day with the money of the jackpot).

That is an important part of what gambling addiction is about, I think. The unbearable feeling that next time it may be the lucky roll which could change their life for good. Of course, we all are area of the reality, they are not as much as they are supposed to.

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June 20, 2023, 11:21:38 PM
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I would also like to add that probably, in the mind if a gambling addicted person the ultimate consequence of their actions is to hit a jackpot which would cover all the losses accumulated through years and would allow them to improve their life in a substantial way (assuming they would not go back gambling the next day with the money of the jackpot).

That is an important part of what gambling addiction is about, I think. The unbearable feeling that next time it may be the lucky roll which could change their life for good. Of course, we all are area of the reality, they are not as much as they are supposed to.

But the Jackpot was never hit until they became addicts and spent all their money, even selling their homes and belongings. this will look crazy, being an addict will never think about the consequences, the only goal is the Jackpot which the casino never gives. The addict does not realize that what he is doing will only enrich the casino, there is no control, no planning.
The roll of fortune that is always awaited cannot be guessed, it will still be a mystery and the gambling system has arranged it. 1 jackpot will indeed change his whole life, but waiting or getting a jackpot turn will be a very long wait.

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June 20, 2023, 11:45:04 PM
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Once you're addicted into something, you'd be aware of things such as its consequences but that is different from knowing the downsides. You'll just be too hooked  up with a speficic behavior or habit as part of an impulse to do it on a daily basis.
They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.
Aware is different from knowing, for those people who are confused. As I've mentioned, knowing is having idea about a particular thing but with deeper understanding.  In the case of addiction, not only in gambling, they know what they are doing but they cannot explain why do they do it too often. They know the consequences but they cannot help it 'coz of the 'satisfaction' they get from doing a repetitive behavior. This is why professional help should be always advised if you know someone who is having addiction 'coz they won't have the initiative to do so, most of the time.
Indeed two different things. But to add, there are different kinds of addiction wherein some people are addicted to the behavior and not the reward from doing so. And I think it is obvious that in gambling, addiction is created by the slight tendency of winning big time in an instant and not really to the behavior or the actual gambling or playing experience. I've mentioned this 'coz we are talking aboyt consequences. Playing too much won't be that bad in the first place and its worse problem is to not be able to function with proper on a daily basis especially if you're a student or an employee. On the other hand, playing because of high hopes of winning would more likely leave you broke or sell your properties if incase frustration would take place as its consequence, and this is where worse case scenarios, as a consequence, is not being percieved by some 'heavy' gamblers.
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I mean,  they're called "addicts" for a reason. If there was a thought process behind their behavior other than "trying to win", I'd consider them something like a rehab patient, trying to overpower the former reasoning and making it so that something can actually overpower it. It in most cases is impulse, which all addicts are known to have.

Gambling addicts is something similar to a state of a person in withdrawal imo, they see nothing during that state but only what they want. After a few hours of that if they still have some semblance of reason then they'd understand what they did, but knowing about it doesn't exactly make it easier to fix it. They can be considered a victim alright, a victim of their own desires.

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June 21, 2023, 12:42:23 AM
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I haven't been a gambling addict myself. Neither am I a professional on this, but I think it's possible that a gambling addict about to steal something to support his/her vice has second thoughts. But the urge to have money to be able to gamble will easily overpower it. Gambling addiction is probably different from addiction on drugs in that a victim of the latter won't anymore hesitate to jump off a building. He/she would even do it with a smile on his/her face.

If a gambling addict is brought back to his/her sanity, he/she will surely feel remorse. Until then, he/she will continue to destroy himself/herself, his/her relationships, and so on.

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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

They just can't control themselves, and mostly they don't think about the side effects as they prefer the happiness brought by gambling to them and want to win big. Also, there are instances where they thought they were far from addiction and just said that they wanted to play more and stopped when they felt addicted to it. Only other people can say you are really addicted to gambling, as they will not claim that they are addicted, but for sure they are already aware of everything.
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June 21, 2023, 03:27:02 AM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 

Of course, what happens is that they tend to exhibit compulsive behaviour. They know that what they are doing is wrong and can have bad consequences for themselves and those close to them, and yet they do it. As I just commented in another thread, this is not a question of rationality, they enter into an emotional state that pushes them to do it.

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 

Unless they are psychopaths, yes.

3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

I don't like the word victim for these cases, as they actively seek gambling, it's not like the victim of a robbery or rape who never wanted it to happen to them and yet it did. They are largely to blame for what happens to them, although if you have someone close to you, it is better to try to give them support to help them get out of it, especially if they are determined to try to quit, as it is not easy.

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June 21, 2023, 03:30:17 AM
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Such addicts realize what they are doing and what they are doing just to get the money to continue gambling and hope that their fatigue will return if they continue to gamble.
and crime cases such as gambling addicts by stealing and so on, there have been many cases like this, and after being caught or exposed they admit the results of their crimes to play gambling.
and this kind of case applies to other addicts and they do it to get money so they can fulfill their addiction in any way.

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They're being called addicts for a reason. An addict is somebody who is already out of his mind. It means he cannot anymore control the urges from within. I have read of many news related to crimes committed by addicted individuals. They're horrible. You can't imagine a sane person doing them. So I don't think these gambling addicts stealing something from other people would be bothered by the consequences of their crimes. Perhaps it will happen only after they've finished their rehab treatment and they already got back their sanity.
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
first of all gambling addicts also have a sense of regret and he can also think twice about what they are going to do. but that feeling of guilt and positive thinking will just disappear and be forgotten with the addiction that has taken over his own mind.
for example, the gambler stole his wife's jewelry, even though before doing this the gambler thought about whether this was the right behavior, but the addiction in his mind replied that stealing his wife's jewelry would not be a problem because if he later won at gambling, he would definitely be replaced, but in the end he lost again.
and after that because of the defeat he got he came home with a sense of regret for stealing his wife's jewelery and he started to get emotional with gambling doing the same thing stealing valuables again in the hope of chasing defeat to take back the money he had lost at gambling and would do negative things like it's continuous.

so that the gambling addict has been controlled by thoughts that have always chased previous losses because of a sense of emotion that overpowers these positive thoughts.

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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Yes, I bet too that they are all aware of what they are doing. But because they are addicted, they cannot distinguish anything between right or wrong anymore or weigh some things first if it's good for their own family or bad as the only thing that matters for them at that very moment is to continue their activity by means of gambling.

Might be too unfortunate to think but that's their reality and without the family's support and help from the professionals, he/she might have a very rough and rocky road towards recovery.

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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

Well this is a must. but, apart from support from family and proffesional, he must aggree with a fact that he must be able to getting out from this addiction. I know a person here, he got support from all of his family to stop gambling, even paying off his debts because he promised to stop gambling, in fact, he still repeats the same thing, he gambles without thinking about the people who have supported him before, and owes back with more than amount before. What does that mean, even support from family and professionals will fail if there is no action to out from his addiction.

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They all aware.

But, it's because of the addiction and they still do it. It's not easy mate, fighting addiction need a lot time for cure-team and support from the family. Without a support family, they're struggling.

It's really hard, for the case addiction.

This ia a matter of shame we are talking about, some gamblers don't have this shame regardless of the conditions that warrant for such, they will always think its as a normal thing in life to do because their orientation and focused have been changed as well, they no longer sees whatever they do as not being wrong in their own sight, the family would have tried their best but when everything yielded nothing to show forth they will have to decided on leaving such person alone since they believe he's natured enough to be always corrected for doing wrong things all the time.

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June 21, 2023, 11:56:47 AM
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1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them? 
2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling? 
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?
Gambling addicts are aware of the consequences of their action. But because they're uncontrolled it's already hard to think of the right thing to do due to their eagerness to keep on playing to sustain their addiction. There's probably part in their minds to stop or feel guilty and have regrets. But because they're used to playing (regardless how and where they got their funds to gamble) they will continue to play to satisfy themselves as an addicted gambler.

An addict who is bothered for the aftermath and wants to overcome his/her addiction will do something to already stop. Taking it slowly is better with the help of people around showing great support through encouragement.

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June 21, 2023, 12:17:17 PM
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A question that bothers me concerning this issue is;
1. Do gambling addicts ever take a second thought on what the consequences of their actions can be not just to them but on those close to them?

2. Do they in reality genuinely feel any remorse about  how those affected by their actions might be feeling?  
3. Or, are they a dispassionate victim of their own uncontrollable addictive gambling lifestyle?

They do, but their obsession to gamble gets the best of their logical thinking, some obsessive gamblers are responsible fathers behind them but they kept their obsessive gambling because they cannot control themselves, these gamblers need help and sympathy than being judged.

They only feel remorse after they satisfy their cravings for gamblers, like all types of addicts they need the help of professionals, I talked to one obsessive gambler and they do want to get help but they are helpless and don't want to be judged as weak so they prefer to hide their addiction.

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