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Today is not beautiful enough for me. I was surprised by a few things on the forums that I thought I understood. I found something strange again. I think so

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/30/S5RWj.png

My question is:
1] How could this happen?
2] Does he delete all posts and activity will go back to the beginning?
3] If I'm not mistaken, he should at least be a hero member
4] Is this normal? or am I the one who doesn't know about phenomena like this?

If you delete all your posts, yes your activity will go back to zero.

Activity works by taking the number of posts you have made within a 2-week period (capping at 14) and adding it to your current activity, which starts at 0. These values are stored in a database and updated with a script that runs periodically every other Wednesday.

So mass-deleting tons of your posts will lower your activity and consequentially your rank on the next Activity update cycle.

Next question:
Why do members do that? I think everyone likes it when have a high rank

He deleted most of his old post that result to lose of his activity. The post above of NotATether explained already how activity works. I deleted too some of my old post that result to decrease of my activity from 1000+ to the current count. You will notice that his post count=activity on his profile which means he delete all his previous post which is very painful to do because there’s no delete all post feature on our profile.

He will need a lot of time again to get a high rank since he literally reset his forum rank the moment he deleted his post that is attached to his activity count. Maybe he is trying to start fresh on his account to have a good post history and easy to accept on signature campaign manager since some of campaign manager consider post or activity to merit ratio.

Is it necessary to reset all activities to be accepted in a signature campaign? even now he doesn't have enough rank to sign up for a campaign. I think what he did made the other members suspicious, when he deleted all the old posts, maybe there is another goal or there is history that he wants to erase

Feel free to ask the user for yourself.

Usually people do that — to delete their old posts that are somewhat low quality when they are just starting posting here OR they are trying to hide something, who knows.

BobLawlaw did the same years ago when he had some serious disagreements with other members and wanted to abandon his account but he does love the forum so he did not leave us after all dramas.

His account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=569455)

If you have your topics, you can not delete them and with very old members, they likely created some own topics so they will not be able to delete all posts including opening posts. Hence their activity will not drop to zero.

If you see any member with 0 post, 0 activity, with or without merit, it is like a nuked account. Forum moderators have nuke buttons.

Would this really be effective and useful for the user in question?

I imagine that managers will check messages on Ninjastic anyway, and there they won't be deleted. So I wonder what the point is of doing this in order to be accepted into campaigns if you really have something to hide?

This is not accurate. Activity is updated every hour.


If your post count is smaller than 14 * number of two-week activity periods in which you have been active, you will see that your actvity will increase after every post you make.
If your actvity doesn't increase after every post you make, that's because your post count is equal or bigger than 14 * number of two-week activity periods in which you have been active and you have to wait until a new two-week actvity period starts and you make a new post in the new period. 

No, it is not necessary. I've never seen anyone "reset" their activity to be accepted in a signature campaign.

both assumptions could be true. you should ask him directly if you are curious about the reason why he deleted the majority of his posts.

Why not you share the full profile maybe we can run a thorough test to know if such person deleted all their post. However account rank are subjected to merits and activities, if you had the required merits and you have no post and activities you would still remains in Newbie or Jr member account ranking only work when you have the required post and activity collectively dependent of each others. I think the second poster already explained it to you.

If you want to see a bunch of other cases besides the one you referenced, you can take a look at some of those I keep track of here:
https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/ddmrddmr/viz/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/De-ranked

Amongst the above cases (I don’t track them all, just those that have earned at least 1 Merit at some point) there’s this case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882524) that managed to go all the way back down to having 0 Activity whilst bearing 519 Merits (500 airdropped + 19 earned). He was a Hero at some point, as evidenced here (https://web.archive.org/web/20171127101250/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882524).

I don't know why some members delete their old posts? There must be a suspicious object or activity that they want to get rid of. Or perhaps to increase the percentage of merit-to-posts. I honestly don't know because I don't delete a post unless something goes wrong.

Another question, I don't know if deleting the merit posts will lead to deleting the merit as well? Would that also result in a member's rank being lowered?

No. You won't lose merits you have received for a post, even if the merited post is deleted.


Your rank is a function of your activity and merit. Therefore, with deleting your posts, you may lose your rank due to losing activity.

On the contrary, most signature campaigns nowadays require very high ranks such as Senior Member or Hero Member to join, so it makes literally no sense for you to reduce your activity below the minimum required for that rank because it would actually disqualify you from the application process for that campaign.

The activity reduction as explained by other members are very correct. There is always a reason for post deletion which only the poster knows about. Normally, when your post increases, it is counted based on the set count as already programmed for two weeks or thereabouts which sums up to give you your activities.

Deleting  your posts would not affect your merits earned but your rank as well would definitely drop because your rank depends on your activities to increase.
OP seems you have made some observations here. It shows how fast and a good learner you are.

For some it is a make shift delete button for their account. The forum does not have such a feature so even if you wanted to abandon your account your posts and activities would remain as it was, this prompts some to go on a deleting spree to clear their account.

It's unnecessary when you think that those posts has already been logged by third party services and always would be available.

Not all, you may find the fact that not many posts from users referred by the OP have been archived. I checked through Ninjastic.space and Loyce.club, that user has only 114 posts (loyce.club archived) and 113 posts (in ninjastic.space).

If you want to know about the user, I can tell you. But I'm not sure why the OP hid it.

deadsea33 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=106374)

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OP, I didn't find out what the reason for that user was to delete his post. But you can ask him directly via PM.

I didn't catch the purpose of the information shared by OP by do understand the reason for creating this thread, which is obvious that either you make or delete the post after 14 activities will be updated accordingly. if You delete all posts then obviously only 15 activities will be deleted in 15 days. (I do not remember exactly if is it 14 days or 15 days). Well, I do know that the number of days = to a number of activities.

Now, as Eternad and IWMHPWB2 mentioned their opinions about why anyone will delete their posts to get accepted into the signature campaign while the managers can check the reality in the edit log and on the delete log (also on ninjas too). And Eternad also mentioned that managers prefer to post or activity to merit ratio. Let me tell you all that.

I made more than 600 posts directly in bounty sections because at the start i was a bounty hunter and when I became full member in 2023 I was excited to join the sig campaign but after applying too many times (like 4 to 7) I thought i am not accepted due to my involvement in bounties so I also planned to delete my report posts which. But I thought it would be nice if I ask the manager. So I just sent a message to Royse777 on his/her TG group and he/she advised me to not delete them because the factor that Eternad mentioned is not a universal rule for managers to select applicants. Well, when I was being encouraged by the Manager, I applied again like maybe 2 or 3 times, and got accepted.

And work for 1 or 2 weeks then I worked for Hamphuz campaign in Whirlwind which you knew the highest-paying campaign. and then in the sujonali1819 campaign and now I am working in Yomix.

The point is, you can never understand the psychology of rules that managers follow to select applicants, but my rule is your prayers work, and content too. So being creative and keep growing is the only key, Not deleting the old post which you find useless.

This happened to you because you have deleted most of your posts. Anyone who has an activity of 500, and his posts are 600, now if this user removes 150 posts from his overall posts than his activity will automatically drop to 450 because he has deleted those 50 posts that had gained him activity points in past. The activity system works on two week basis, and is limited to 14 activity points per two weeks, a user who makes  14 posts in those two weeks will gain 14 activity points only, and that's how this forum's activity system works. If the same user deletes those 14 posts after gaining the activity points then those points will be removed as well with removed posts.

The user who has 5000 posts and having an activity of 2000 can delete 3000 excess posts, but still there won't be any impact on his activity points, however if he deletes 200 more posts then his activity will be 1800 instead of 2000. Your activity reduced because you have deleted most of your posts, and the posts that remained on your profile were the only ones with activity points. You will have to gain those activity points like a normal user once again, and it will take you a long time. If I'm not wrong then a user can gain 365 activity points per year, and you'll need more than 2 years to gain your activity points back.

It could happen as a result of the account holder deleting his or her post history gradually which affect other aspect of the account prominence.

If the post is been deleted, it automatically affects the activity when this is done, the activity gradually reduces as the post is being deleted. It also affects the rank too because the activity is needed for rank up. So therefore a drop in activity also causes a drop in rank.


How do we know when you did not drop the link here for us to see for our self because what you have posted here might portray a distorted information. S we can not tell exactly the rank of the account


How is it normal mate. Does it looks alright to you for some to  just decides to start deleting his or her post history that took them precious time and commitment to build up to that level. Do you know what that means.

You could also be having this thought if the account holder is trying to cover up something they have done in the past

At what cost ? If you mentioned your contact details on a thread by mistake, will you leave it undeleted even after realizing the mistake just for the rank on bitcointalk ?

Not necessarily , someone deleting old posts is a spammer. There can be other genuine reasons behind this also.

Looking at the profile, it looks like he is an old member of the forum who received 500 merits through airdrop as per when the merit system was introduced. What he has only earned is 252 merit.

Any user can decide to delete their comments for reasons best known to them; there is no crime for doing so unless there's some shady reason for doing so, like those people who buy accounts or hack accounts; they can decide to delete the old post on the account they have hacked. Apart from that, one can also decide to delete a lot of their posts that they think are no longer relevant. For example, there are thousands of dead threads, and if you think your comments are not up to your standard, you can choose to delete them.


Cheers 🥂, Dr.Bitcoin_Strange 👺👺

This account registered on 2013 and the merit airdrop was till the end of 2017 so he got 500 merit as per his activity and became a Hero Member but maybe he deleted his post and that's why his activity decreased and also his rank decreased and now he is in Member rank.

1. Deleting a post reduces the activity and it can go down to 0 no problem
2. Once merit is added to a profile, it is never deleted.  If activity and post count is 0 then merit will not decrease even 1

You are wrong, every user gets a merit airdrop when the merit system was implemented on the forum in January 2018. This airdrop merit is distributed based on the rank of each user, and the activity of the account mentioned is a hero considering the amount of merit airdrop.

It's okay to delete posts, maybe the user has a reason for doing so. About activity, the count will only be 0 if all those posts are deleted. Meanwhile, if the number of your posts is still more than the number of activities, then the activity will not decrease.

This is a common thing that happens because the forum system supports it

Yes if he deletes all his posts then his activity will go to 0 and his rank will be Newbie even though he has 700+ merits. Because this forum requires both activity and merit to change and maintain rank, not just one is worked. You can still see his total post amount and read his posts via ninjastic.space as all his data is archived there.  This may clear your confusion

If he keeps posting and gets 500+ activities, he will become a Hero Member again because he has enough merit to become a Hero.

Yes it is totally normal and the algorithm of this forum is set that way

the details you specified will remain archived. so we won't lose a single post that we can find even if it's been deleted.
this is normal and a lot of sold accounts do. and also the old members who cleaned up their posts that looked bad in the past to make them look tidier. like accounts starting in threads with POA and bounty campaign reports. then they cleaned it up and started being active on the forum again with better progress.

The possibility for activity back to zero is true,when you suppose to delete all your post.At first it’s not a right decision to do so.Many people making good posts to earn some smerits to rank up to high or next rank.The smerits alone doesn’t help them to move to next rank.The most important one is activity and it’s purely based on your work for the period of two weeks.

Suggestion: Instead of thinking negatively,choose the positive one.Kindly make some good post,many smerits source will help you to rank up by giving their valuable smerits.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034141.0

In above thread you can find the Top 200 people who help the newbie.It’s happy to see my name in this list.I am not praising myself,it’s just an information many people are ready to help you as like me.Good luck

Two reasons why they do that.

Either they want to hide something strange on their account that's why they decide to delete majority of their post.

Or they don't want to see their number of post became more higher since they don't like other think that they are spamming this forum.