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June 30, 2023, 01:58:35 PM
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My question is:
1] How could this happen?
2] Does he delete all posts and activity will go back to the beginning?
3] If I'm not mistaken, he should at least be a hero member
4] Is this normal? or am I the one who doesn't know about phenomena like this?

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June 30, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
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If you delete all your posts, yes your activity will go back to zero.

Activity works by taking the number of posts you have made within a 2-week period (capping at 14) and adding it to your current activity, which starts at 0. These values are stored in a database and updated with a script that runs periodically every other Wednesday.

So mass-deleting tons of your posts will lower your activity and consequentially your rank on the next Activity update cycle.

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June 30, 2023, 02:12:16 PM
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If you delete all your posts, yes your activity will go back to zero.

Activity works by taking the number of posts you have made within a 2-week period (capping at 14) and adding it to your current activity, which starts at 0. These values are stored in a database and updated with a script that runs periodically every other Wednesday.

So mass-deleting tons of your posts will lower your activity and consequentially your rank on the next Activity update cycle.

Next question:
Why do members do that? I think everyone likes it when have a high rank

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June 30, 2023, 02:16:45 PM
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He deleted most of his old post that result to lose of his activity. The post above of NotATether explained already how activity works. I deleted too some of my old post that result to decrease of my activity from 1000+ to the current count. You will notice that his post count=activity on his profile which means he delete all his previous post which is very painful to do because there’s no delete all post feature on our profile.

He will need a lot of time again to get a high rank since he literally reset his forum rank the moment he deleted his post that is attached to his activity count. Maybe he is trying to start fresh on his account to have a good post history and easy to accept on signature campaign manager since some of campaign manager consider post or activity to merit ratio.

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June 30, 2023, 02:21:27 PM
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He will need a lot of time again to get a high rank since he literally reset his forum rank the moment he deleted his post that is attached to his activity count. Maybe he is trying to start fresh on his account to have a good post history and easy to accept on signature campaign manager since some of campaign manager consider post or activity to merit ratio.

Is it necessary to reset all activities to be accepted in a signature campaign? even now he doesn't have enough rank to sign up for a campaign. I think what he did made the other members suspicious, when he deleted all the old posts, maybe there is another goal or there is history that he wants to erase

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June 30, 2023, 02:37:15 PM
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Next question:
Why do members do that? I think everyone likes it when have a high rank
Feel free to ask the user for yourself.

Usually people do that — to delete their old posts that are somewhat low quality when they are just starting posting here OR they are trying to hide something, who knows.

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June 30, 2023, 02:54:28 PM
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BobLawlaw did the same years ago when he had some serious disagreements with other members and wanted to abandon his account but he does love the forum so he did not leave us after all dramas.

His account

If you have your topics, you can not delete them and with very old members, they likely created some own topics so they will not be able to delete all posts including opening posts. Hence their activity will not drop to zero.

If you see any member with 0 post, 0 activity, with or without merit, it is like a nuked account. Forum moderators have nuke buttons.
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June 30, 2023, 02:58:54 PM
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post history and easy to accept on signature campaign manager since some of campaign manager consider post or activity to merit ratio.

Would this really be effective and useful for the user in question?

I imagine that managers will check messages on Ninjastic anyway, and there they won't be deleted. So I wonder what the point is of doing this in order to be accepted into campaigns if you really have something to hide?


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Activity works by taking the number of posts you have made within a 2-week period (capping at 14) and adding it to your current activity, which starts at 0. These values are stored in a database and updated with a script that runs periodically every other Wednesday.
This is not accurate. Activity is updated every hour.

Activity is updated every hour.

If your post count is smaller than 14 * number of two-week activity periods in which you have been active, you will see that your actvity will increase after every post you make.
If your actvity doesn't increase after every post you make, that's because your post count is equal or bigger than 14 * number of two-week activity periods in which you have been active and you have to wait until a new two-week actvity period starts and you make a new post in the new period. 

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Is it necessary to reset all activities to be accepted in a signature campaign?
No, it is not necessary. I've never seen anyone "reset" their activity to be accepted in a signature campaign.

I think what he did made the other members suspicious, when he deleted all the old posts, maybe there is another goal or there is history that he wants to erase
both assumptions could be true. you should ask him directly if you are curious about the reason why he deleted the majority of his posts.

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June 30, 2023, 04:21:31 PM
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Why not you share the full profile maybe we can run a thorough test to know if such person deleted all their post. However account rank are subjected to merits and activities, if you had the required merits and you have no post and activities you would still remains in Newbie or Jr member account ranking only work when you have the required post and activity collectively dependent of each others. I think the second poster already explained it to you.

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June 30, 2023, 04:30:56 PM
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If you want to see a bunch of other cases besides the one you referenced, you can take a look at some of those I keep track of here:
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I don't know why some members delete their old posts? There must be a suspicious object or activity that they want to get rid of. Or perhaps to increase the percentage of merit-to-posts. I honestly don't know because I don't delete a post unless something goes wrong.

Another question, I don't know if deleting the merit posts will lead to deleting the merit as well? Would that also result in a member's rank being lowered?

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Another question, I don't know if deleting the merit posts will lead to deleting the merit as well?
No. You won't lose merits you have received for a post, even if the merited post is deleted.


Would that also result in a member's rank being lowered?
Your rank is a function of your activity and merit. Therefore, with deleting your posts, you may lose your rank due to losing activity.

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Is it necessary to reset all activities to be accepted in a signature campaign? even now he doesn't have enough rank to sign up for a campaign. I think what he did made the other members suspicious, when he deleted all the old posts, maybe there is another goal or there is history that he wants to erase

On the contrary, most signature campaigns nowadays require very high ranks such as Senior Member or Hero Member to join, so it makes literally no sense for you to reduce your activity below the minimum required for that rank because it would actually disqualify you from the application process for that campaign.

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The activity reduction as explained by other members are very correct. There is always a reason for post deletion which only the poster knows about. Normally, when your post increases, it is counted based on the set count as already programmed for two weeks or thereabouts which sums up to give you your activities.

Deleting  your posts would not affect your merits earned but your rank as well would definitely drop because your rank depends on your activities to increase.
OP seems you have made some observations here. It shows how fast and a good learner you are.

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I don't know why some members delete their old posts? There must be a suspicious object or activity that they want to get rid of. Or perhaps to increase the percentage of merit-to-posts. I honestly don't know because I don't delete a post unless something goes wrong.
For some it is a make shift delete button for their account. The forum does not have such a feature so even if you wanted to abandon your account your posts and activities would remain as it was, this prompts some to go on a deleting spree to clear their account.

It's unnecessary when you think that those posts has already been logged by third party services and always would be available.

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June 30, 2023, 07:13:43 PM
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It's unnecessary when you think that those posts has already been logged by third party services and always would be available.
Not all, you may find the fact that not many posts from users referred by the OP have been archived. I checked through Ninjastic.space and Loyce.club, that user has only 114 posts (loyce.club archived) and 113 posts (in ninjastic.space).

If you want to know about the user, I can tell you. But I'm not sure why the OP hid it.

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OP, I didn't find out what the reason for that user was to delete his post. But you can ask him directly via PM.

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June 30, 2023, 07:18:30 PM
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post history and easy to accept on signature campaign manager since some of campaign manager consider post or activity to merit ratio.

Would this really be effective and useful for the user in question?

I imagine that managers will check messages on Ninjastic anyway, and there they won't be deleted. So I wonder what the point is of doing this in order to be accepted into campaigns if you really have something to hide?
I didn't catch the purpose of the information shared by OP by do understand the reason for creating this thread, which is obvious that either you make or delete the post after 14 activities will be updated accordingly. if You delete all posts then obviously only 15 activities will be deleted in 15 days. (I do not remember exactly if is it 14 days or 15 days). Well, I do know that the number of days = to a number of activities.

Now, as Eternad and IWMHPWB2 mentioned their opinions about why anyone will delete their posts to get accepted into the signature campaign while the managers can check the reality in the edit log and on the delete log (also on ninjas too). And Eternad also mentioned that managers prefer to post or activity to merit ratio. Let me tell you all that.

I made more than 600 posts directly in bounty sections because at the start i was a bounty hunter and when I became full member in 2023 I was excited to join the sig campaign but after applying too many times (like 4 to 7) I thought i am not accepted due to my involvement in bounties so I also planned to delete my report posts which. But I thought it would be nice if I ask the manager. So I just sent a message to Royse777 on his/her TG group and he/she advised me to not delete them because the factor that Eternad mentioned is not a universal rule for managers to select applicants. Well, when I was being encouraged by the Manager, I applied again like maybe 2 or 3 times, and got accepted.

And work for 1 or 2 weeks then I worked for Hamphuz campaign in Whirlwind which you knew the highest-paying campaign. and then in the sujonali1819 campaign and now I am working in Yomix.

The point is, you can never understand the psychology of rules that managers follow to select applicants, but my rule is your prayers work, and content too. So being creative and keep growing is the only key, Not deleting the old post which you find useless.

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June 30, 2023, 08:05:16 PM
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Today is not beautiful enough for me. I was surprised by a few things on the forums that I thought I understood. I found something strange again. I think so

My question is:
1] How could this happen?
2] Does he delete all posts and activity will go back to the beginning?
3] If I'm not mistaken, he should at least be a hero member
4] Is this normal? or am I the one who doesn't know about phenomena like this?

This happened to you because you have deleted most of your posts. Anyone who has an activity of 500, and his posts are 600, now if this user removes 150 posts from his overall posts than his activity will automatically drop to 450 because he has deleted those 50 posts that had gained him activity points in past. The activity system works on two week basis, and is limited to 14 activity points per two weeks, a user who makes  14 posts in those two weeks will gain 14 activity points only, and that's how this forum's activity system works. If the same user deletes those 14 posts after gaining the activity points then those points will be removed as well with removed posts.

The user who has 5000 posts and having an activity of 2000 can delete 3000 excess posts, but still there won't be any impact on his activity points, however if he deletes 200 more posts then his activity will be 1800 instead of 2000. Your activity reduced because you have deleted most of your posts, and the posts that remained on your profile were the only ones with activity points. You will have to gain those activity points like a normal user once again, and it will take you a long time. If I'm not wrong then a user can gain 365 activity points per year, and you'll need more than 2 years to gain your activity points back.

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