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So I came across a video on youtube about someone planning on creating a new type of Olympic games called "the Enhanced Games" to rival the Olympic games. In this version of "Olympic games", performance-enhancement drugs that are usually prohibited to be used by the athletes competing in the Olympic Games will be allowed to be used.

the president of "the Enhanced Games" believes that this competition could unlock the athlete's true potential and will obliterate all the world record that has been set in the Olympic games. from what I have read in an article, they are planning on launching this event next year in December.

now, the reason why I post this here is because since a lot of sports bettors here love sports I am curious about what you guys think about it and whether this would be a new sporting event that will be enjoyed by sports betting enthusiasts.

personally, as a person who likes sports, I am curious about what this new sporting event that allows the usage of performance-enhancement drugs could lead to.

the video I stumbled upon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h49A-2Zv8dA

some articles about the topic
https://apnews.com/article/australia-olympics-enhanced-games-doping-24462bcf8f1f97125a8234bea5723ff3
https://dotesports.com/general/news/the-enhanced-olympics-where-drugs-are-welcome-sounds-like-its-from-a-dystopian-video-game
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/jun/30/the-enhanced-games-a-drugs-olympics-where-cheaters-can-prosper

I believe the organizer of this new olympic games is the real doped. I doubt world record will acknowledge a milestone achievement made by someone under the influence of synthetic strength booster. This kind of games is not healthy and promotes sports that will have a side effect on human body. I’m afraid that in worst case scenario, There might be some casualty here since people will do anything just to win even if they will take more drugs just get more strength without considering the risk to the body.

Very intriguing announcement but will they be acknowledge?

A bit radical and will really leave an impression on the next generation. And it's just not track and field or other sports but Combat sport is among the game. This is an enhanced drug promotion Olympics and most probably the ones who use Meth are gonna be the ones winning. It's not about agility and skills but about what drugs can do for you.

Aron Desouza is a funny guy. He has a good point that its anti-science to not allow performance-enhance drugs. I don't see anything wrong with using it but not in sports competitions.
If you are a Witcher, I guess you can take as many enhanced drugs and go slay monsters.

I guess that the Olympics will be for only drug users because it is only the ones that use drugs as a booster that will enjoy the game. The winner will win based on the influence of drugs and not based on strength,this is bring harm on sport because the young generation will think that it is the right thing to do. I will also say that it is only another means of promoting hard drugs which has negative impact to the society. I will love to watch such games and to also see who will end up being the winner in various games,if he was motivated by any drugs. It will be lovely if Colombia will be the host.
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It is crucial to support clean and fair competition in sports, encouraging athletes to achieve their best without resorting to performance-enhancing substances. By doing so, we can ensure that the Olympic Games and other sporting events continue to inspire and bring people together in a positive and healthy way!!!sports ethics should be the fundamental benchmark for all participants in sports. When there is respect for rules and ethical values, a fair and healthy balance in competition is achieved, and the spirit of fairness and mutual respect among athletes is enhanced. Therefore, we all should strive to preserve the integrity of sports and promote sports ethics in all aspects of sporting life.

It keeps getting wild everyday. Just some weeks ago we read about the Sex Olympics now this? Incredible. Soon we would have the Olympics that is AI assisted, or cyborg. The organizers should be stopped. There is nothing good about using enhancement drugs aside from the fact that it gives an athlete an unfair advantage, there is also the health aspect. Power lifters and body builders who use them have been know to suffer from several health conditions. Besides how do we judge that these athletes actually did give their best. On the other side, we may just be ready to have a proliferation of enhancement drugs in the market. They should be stopped.

To me I don't think anyone would really waste their time to compare an event that uses drugs to enhance it's participate to that of Olympics that's based on natural strengths and talent, it would be futile if you ask me.
By the way, does Guinness world record accept record performance that was done by the use of drugs? From what I know about GWR all the records I have heard or seen has been based on the performer natural ability and that's what's will make Olympic games top this new one.

The only thing I expect from this new drug enhanced games is fun, due to the fact that participants will no longer be working based on their sheer natural strengths then we should expect more activities from them.

I don't think that this will get merit from the sporting communities obviously. Doping has been ban from the Olympics and even in all other sports as well. And so the organisers of this are doing the opposite and permitting it?

When seen a lot of sports though, supposedly to topple another one and yet no one has succeeded. So I think this will be the same, there is hype in the beginning, and then it will jus die naturally as no one will support this cheaters.

It sounds odd that the Olympics are allowed to use doping because the athlete gets an unfair advantage if the opponent is better doped.
because using doping is the same as doing sports or matches not based on ability or talent, it's just that they have extraordinary physical abilities. The hard work and determination of many sportsmen and coaches goes to waste and sport starts to lose its beauty and values, besides that doping can make people addicted and can cause some serious health problems.

^ Yeah, that is definitely very sad to consider that the Olympics would permit the use of doping, as it gives an unfair advantage to athletes who choose to enhance their performance through artificial means. The essence of sports lies in the display of ability, talent, and the relentless pursuit of excellence, rather than relying solely on extraordinary physical capabilities obtained through doping. The dedication and efforts of countless athletes and coaches could be undermined, causing the sport to lose its inherent beauty and values. But on my own I think doping poses serious health risks and can lead to addiction, further compromising the well-being of individuals involved. It is risky to prioritize fair competition and uphold the integrity of sports to maintain their true essence and promote a healthy environment for athletes.

I don't think the idea of wanting to beat all previous records of winning through performance enhancement drugs is a good one because i don't aso think anyone will accept this results except there is a category  for this kind  of winnings.
And I see this as not right for the Olympics to consider this kind of games and it's  results because I believe that just as our faces and body stature are different,  same thing also applies  to our body system and how it absorbs things because it might take another person 2 hours for a drug to get activated while it might take another person lesser or longer time to activate same drugs  and I believe  when judging this results, it will be based on the dosage given forgetting this setback I mentioned above, hence I'm not in favour that the Olympics support this kind of sport.

Whatever explanation they have they are promoting cheating they are not promoting fairness and natural physical prowess but drugs to enhance human performance.
Yes, it will results in setting new World records but those records will not be acknowledged and it will put participants at great risk because athletes for them to win will use unauthorized and illegal substances to achieve results we never know but athletes will use substances like cocaine to enhance their performance and feel like superman.
I don't think it will get acceptance from many countries especially countries that are against illegal drugs because it's like putting the risk of their athletes that could possibly result in death.

 

Why should drug be to unluck an athlete potential, doesn't that alone limits his ability to believe in himself that he can achieve more without the use of drug. Cause from all indications the use of drugs can only make anyone not to believe himself to achieve something great without the use of drugs to achieve it.
This is immoral and could create a drug addictive mindset to teenagers that would be using these kind of games, this just another indirect way of promoting drugs and it should be fiercely condemned.

That's just a disgrace to the sport they will partake in. Imagine natural talents who hone their skills for years and years being beaten in records by doped guys? Not gonna happen. I wouldn't try to bet on this event too, as it's just a recipe for disaster to my bets because you'll never know who's the better dope user. No one will take interest on this betting-wise, though we don't know about the curiosity of some people out here, they might want to see this become a reality.

Well, looks interesting enough. I just wonder if this will give rise to some companies trying to develop better-performing drugs or something, I'm not really familiar with what they use to dope though so things may have already been what I imagine it to be, but hey, the sky's the limit.

I highly doubt this would be allowed in the global stage, or released to it imo. It may only be a tournament that allows doped users, but in the chances that they may feat a world record made by people who trained for their entire lives, just because of a few tablets, it kind of leaves a bad taste, both to the one who made the record and those who watched him/her.

The act of allowing dope completely makes the sports something similar to a drug competence. Over time we can see the name of the drugs taken by the players under their names. This means the competence will be between two drugs and not between players. As in the previous post, it is a way to create market for drugs and not to create better sporting.

If this concept comes to reality most of the players who were caught for using drugs will be the participants. Lets see what is the real impact the Olympics games can create in the sporting and the drug industry.

The creator of enhanched games wanna test human's body by allowing doping to be used in the competition. He was thinking human can be used as a way to test his experiment.

The world become even more crazy with so many crazy idea like this. Doped guys is a human created.

I am against this, lets forget for a moment about the fairness of the games and things like the respect you owe to your competitors, if taking all kind of substances is allowed then this means the best athlete on a particular sport will be decided not by the one that trains the hardest but by the one that has access to the best drugs and can resist them, this could lead athletes to do all kind of things in order to win and it would not surprise me if many died on their attempt to reach the top.

This seems interesting, at least from a certain point of view. If this kind of sports league is legally allowed, we might be seeing how extreme, even unimaginable, stuff could be done by the human body with the help of enhancement drugs. Help might be a term worth debating here. Powered is different from helped.

If I'm asked, I won't favor such league. Matches under such rules might end up a battle of pharmaceutical or supplement companies. Athletes might not anymore compete out of their human abilities honed and perfected more or less naturally and with factors such as discipline, wisdom, training strategies, and so on.

There must be an ethical side of this as matches might end up simply battles of new experiments or new drug concoctions, and the bodies of the athletes become mere tools for these. Not to mention all the side effects of all these enhancement drugs.

Can this be called an Olympic games if there is doping? I think it's going to be misleading though and now that we are into a lot of controversies as far as sporting goes, remember the case of disgrace Lance Armstrong in cycling?

So just like the rest of the members here, I'm totally against it, not going to be fair for those sports athletes that are performing clean.

This might get some traction, but still this is like condoning that everyone can used drugs to win in a sports.

To be honest, we have read many articles about these types of drugs. Why do you guys think the Olympics have banned these drugs? Because it only enhances the skill? Along with the enhancement of skill, it also affects the health of the athletes who take these drugs. This is the main reason why these types of drugs are banned from sporting events. To be honest, I completely do not support these types of games, where everyone gains an advantage and plays. It’s like hacker vs. hacker matches. Let’s see what the respective nation’s government decides about this.

I'd be more curious in wondering what the life expectancy will be of these athletes if this is allowed to happen. Messing with your body can't be a good thing, if it was then there wouldn't be so many rules against it. Why put yourself at risk for a few records and maybe some money? They will not be allowed in legitimate sports.

If indeed the program is really inaugurated, then I'm sure it won't last long because doping or drugs that have side effects for strength have a bad long-term effect if consumed continuously and later many sports associations will oppose the program if it continues it can damage the athlete's performance in the future.
Doping which is prohibited in an Olympics also has logical reasons and is very beneficial for the health of every athlete.

Supporting a program like this is pointless in my opinion and it is better to support the old Olympics where there were no doping rules.
I myself would not be interested in the Olympic program that allows the use of doping because it doesn't seem to be real in every competition that is held.

Crazy.

It has been a very long time, ancient times since the Olympics has started and with this, I guess this is where it can be proved again that change is constant.

I wonder what will be the bookies gonna think of this. So, they'll take those drug to make them stronger and then what's next? It's impossible that there won't be any side effects.

Poor athletes if then.

I think the logical thing to do would be for athletes to compete without using steroids or drugs of any kind, but I would not be in favour of banning a competition in which doped athletes could compete. Something like natural bodybuilding and Mr. Olympia. Seeing that Mr. Olympia is the most popular, I wouldn't be surprised if this entrepreneur's idea succeeds.


Drawing a parallel with bodybuilding here too, life expectancy is sure to be reduced quite a bit. There are plenty of doped-up bodybuilders who die in their 30s and 40s.

In my view, the idea of "the Enhanced Games" presents a number of moral problems. Traditional sports celebrate the human spirit's tenacity and its capacity to overcome obstacles. While performance-enhancing medications may help an athlete smash records, they arent consistent with this goal. It shows athletics as a battlefield for scientific breakthroughs rather than an equal playing field.

This has the potential to shake things up in the sports betting industry. Sports bettors would have to evaluate not only an athlete's abilities but also the efficacy of any performance-enhancing drugs they might be using. A concentration on pharmaceutical enhancements rather than raw physical ability isnt sportsmanlike in my book.

not sure if this sport will have a lot of fans whereas such sports have damaged their reputation due to the use of these drugs. to be honest, I don't really like sports that use drugs for doping so that performance increases and is stable, but the problem is that this is a sport that must compete naturally.
to me this is just like ruining the reputation of the sport.

this is a very dangerous competition for the younger generation, it could be that in the future young people will compete to become a doping Olympic athlete, everyone can become a great athlete if they use doping, so i really hope that this competition is aborted  authorities so that there is no reason for doping addicts to carry out this inappropriate competition.

from day to day i see that more and more strange things are happening, people seem like they don't care about ethics anymore, so we have to be able to fight against things like this.

It will lead to many other Athletes wanting to perform in the Enhanced Olympic games than the normal ones. Many athletes who are secretly doping will move easily and the enhanced sport will make it look normal for athletes to be taking performance enhancement supplements. To an extent it will increase the number of people who are doping because they will see that there is a space for them and some athletes will be at huge risk because they may decide to overdose on supplements or take the strongest so they can have the best performance.

I bet on sports, but I also don't bet on something I don't support. For example, whenever I see someone from my country or my country's national team, I tend to bet on them out of support. And I never bet on teams from the countries that are rival to mine, or on competitions I consider unhealthy.
I wouldn't bet on the "Enhanced Games" if that became a thing. The reason is that I think sport should be about natural achievements and, more importantly, I feel like it's a dangerous road to encourage athletes to put all sorts of things into their bodies as long as it might give them an edge in a competition, you know? I'm sure it's bad for health, and I disagree with it from an ethical standpoint. I see that some others have moral concerns as well.

Alot of crazy things are happening now and I don't see this particular event to be any different and i am just wondering how the sport athletes will react to this, most of the drugs that will be used by the athletes if this sports might have negative effects on the athletes as it could make them go addictive maybe even after their sport activities. Taking drugs to enhanced your human capabilities is actually wrong because that would be like a borrowed performance and strength as you can't continue with these drugs that enhance your abilities forever.

Erkk. They cannot think of a new sport so they come up with this. Man, I don't know.

Drugs. It has a lot of effect on our body and a part of it is being too aggressive. Take steroids for example. If they will continue this type of game, they will need a lot of guards on their game floor because anytime a fight might happen and they may not be able to cool it down.
I am against it because it will harm the human body but as a sports gambler, I am curious about how it will happen. I mean, I do want to see it. ::) Who knows if it could also be entertaining if they will apply specific rules that could avoid harming another player because of the effect of drugs? I bet they will also make the players sign a waiver in case of something bad will happen.  :D

I don't know if it will be a new sport or if it's just an idea because sport is about the sportsmanship of players or teams who put out their performance to win matches. Even though until now there are still players who use doping and go undetected, most of the players still uphold sportsmanship so they probably won't approve of that type of sport.

But if it is related to business, such sports might be realized because it is to get as much money from the event as possible. And keep in mind that the use of performance enhancing drugs can impact players, so they are considered dangerous to consume. But if it's for health reasons, maybe it's allowed with a note from the doctor.

What is the point in having a roid fest where everyone is juiced to the gills, sporting events should be clean and it should be displaying skills and dedication and hard work rather than medically enhanced robots. May be it could attract fans but personally i would not care to watch these roid fests and no organization would be able to give out a license to conduct these events.  

I would love to see how this game plays out. Am sure many of those athletes that have been disqualified in times past for doping, would be welcomed to try out this experiment Olympics.

With so much problems and pains either resulting from injuries or trauma, people may have had to use some of these substances to improve their performance, and there's no saying the statistics of raw talents who still train, but can't feature in such grand games because they have dabbled into using these banned substances and have automatically been disqualified.

This kind of introduction could be a light at the end of the tunnel to those who had lost hope, still use the dope, but still train even harder.
The idea will face regulators palava, and sports critical would say a ton about this idea.

I for one would love to see how it plays out.

so much weird stuff coming up these days including that sex championship from Sweden. and then this enhance drugs Olympics. 
feels like we are in the end times already. it can't be so coincidental that Zelensky was promoting the legalization of marijuana use in Ukraine.  Marijuana doesn't even grow there but he was trying to sell the idea to the people.

are the athletes supposed to be proud when they win while they are taking such drugs?

Steroids and other performance enhancing drugs is popular on athletes especially on physical sports. It’s just not allowed on official sports that’s why they are hiding it but this kind of drug use will become a norm once this sports become established. LGBTQ+ community is once discouraged but now they are out and proud. I think it just a need a group of people that accepts it and not ashame to make this kind of things become normal.

The health concern will be their greatest enemy on sports like this and not the records they are trying to break.  :D

now that you mentioned the highlighted part, I am certain pharmaceutical companies will take this opportunity(if this sporting event actually worked) to compete with each other to create better and more powerful performance-enhancement drugs and the athletes as their guinea pigs.

from what the president of "the enhanced games" has said from the articles and the video I watched, the point is to take athletes to a new height by letting them take performance-enhancement drugs.

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just so we are clear, despite me saying I am curious about what this sporting event could lead to, does not mean I actually support it. my view on this is that this is very interesting and I am curious what can be achieved in this sporting event.

I was always considering this I mean what kind of athletics we would watch if they completely allowed doping? Well I am sure we would watch machines looking like humans... Those things they will use to increase performance will mess their body for sure. Gambling-wise, they would all have same standards so it could work - their competitions could be part of gambling. But does it really worth to have such games? Some people would try to modify their body like cyberpunk, man. Very bad for humanity.

Lol, the world at its wildest version... True potential is what you can do without any damaging drugs on your body, valuing your health at first place. What is the point of using heavy drugs to boost your performance on the currently moment, but dying from a heart attack, overdose or aneurysm on yout 20's or 30's? What this president of "Enhanced Games" said sounds really sadistic to me.

Of course it would incite the curiosity of many people around the world and there could be a public to gamble on these games, however, I don't like the idea of endorsing in anyways.

If the game uses performance-enhancing drugs, how can players unlock the true potential of athletes because they use doping to do so. Perhaps later, there will be players who will think that they have to use performance enhancing drugs more than other players to unlock their true potential and make themselves a winner. If so, it's not the aim of sports but only to make money from entertainment, and we are still determining whether people will enjoy the event or leave it because it doesn't fit the theme of sports. During this time, the use of doping is a serious violation and will be disqualified by the organizers and may not even compete for some time. But I don't know. Sometimes humans nowadays seem to have lack of ways to enjoy a match so that humans make an event that looks eccentric from the others.

That's true it's not going to be a battle of the athletes' true potential but drug companies who can enhance the athletes' performance, these athletes will become drug companies' guinea pigs in the end these athletes will suffer from different malfunctions of the bodies because these drug enhancing performance have serious side effects to the body.
This is the most ridiculous idea these organizers can think, anyway the organizer has a bad reputation, I don't think he will contribute to the world of sports by promoting the use of performance-enhancing drugs.

I have read many times about the Olympic tournament or the types of sports to bet on, for me the answer is below.

It seems that I have to study first how the sport is contested and played, from Aaron D'Souza's talk, it looks interesting, but still we have to see and what this statement means.

I'm already lost in this part. I find it to be contradictory since it's no longer true potential when you use enhancers.

Would I bet on it? I don't know. If there's some sort of regulation in place to somehow balance the playing field then maybe it's worth taking a look. It should be clear what kind of PEDs and the level each of these athletes could take. It will only benefit the financially capable if their intake isn't monitored and controlled.

This idea is outrageous, these performing-enhancing drugs can ruin the body remember those wrestlers that take performing-enhancing drugs and their bodies have been ravaged that is why they are banning these drugs because it has bad effects on the body in the long term.

That's a big lie, of course, athletes should not use drugs to enhance their performance because the body has a limit on how far it can perform, the organizers will be liable if these athletes that will participate suffer from a debilitating condition, I don't think it will be supported by countries, we are all educated on the harmful effects of these drugs and it's like putting your precious athletes in harm.

I personally lean on the opinion that using performance enhancing drugs is kind of anti-competitive and goes against what the Olympic games stand for.

However, I am not fully closed to the idea of this event taking place, who knows, perhaps there could be people that get interested and even would even bet on the events of this new format for the Olympic games.

Also, I would be concerned for the health of those who participate, if this new Olympic Games became popular, it could translate to a increase of use of such drugs by athletes, to the point of being detrimental to them, and could even encourage young people to use those drugs to get better results faster. The cultural impact should be also be considered.

All I know is that skill enhancement consumables mostly have negative effects to the body of the player who would take on it. Ofcourse they would have a better performance and strength than their usual but if it would be bad in the future, then we are just destroying the futuristic vision towards players. I think it would be still better for players tonjist be themselves. Enhancements indeed improves the body of players but for sure not all players would be able to take such or grab into this opportunity sinply because of what we called "tradition" and sportsmanship. Sports are temporary so putting your life into sich tricks, would really matter.

There are risks in using performance-enhancing drugs and it's one of the killers. It will not take effect immediately but like any other drug, the visible effect will only be seen after a long use of it. It's addictive as well seeing a low-esteem kid will boost his confidence because he discovers women like his 6 packs tummy just like the Liverking.

Approving this kind of Olympic is like ignoring those rules in sports and the likes of USADA and WADA.

I see why it was called an Enhanced Games in the first place because the players will be allowed to use PEDs and other substance to enhance whatever needed in a player's body and whatever sport would it be used. As far as I can tell, it's kind of funny by the way because I never thought that there would be a plan like this and truth to be told, the president was probably so doped that he thought of this kind of format.

I wouldn't bet on this. Not only is it not balanced at all, so you don't really know who is on what, but also it's promoting doping.
This is a stupid idea if you ask me. Some people will argue that in normal games if you can get away with it you'll have the advantage, but truth tends to come out sooner or later, as the story of Lance Armstrong proves.

So basically what they're trying to come up with is a competition where cheating is allowed? That's just dumb. I mean there's a reason why doping is not allowed in the official olympic games, and now they're creating a similar competition with all these participants cooked up on steroids? This will literally signal a wave of teenagers that are doused on tren thinking they could get into the olympics if they take up performance-enhancing drugs, which by the way could be dangerous for the athlete if not done in moderate doses, which I doubt will be imposed anyway cause you're basically allowing your athletes to cheat the game at this point. I don't see this competition ever getting the same amount of respect or acclaim that the international olympics receive, not only is it ridiculous, it's also endangering the athlete's welfare by allowing them to partake in these unhealthy practices for the sake of getting some semblance of competitive advantage.

Since some enhancements will be used as a boost, and these drugs are "prohibited", I couldn't consider that as a way of unlocking the "true potential" of an athlete but rather manipulating their capability into something out of their border already.

Generally, not within their respective human nature anymore.


I believed it can somehow attract some sports bettors out there due to the fact that what we will see here is, the same as those usual sports in the Olympics and the only difference is, participants are cheating on their body capability. Nice to see how those boosts will end up.

However, my concern is, those prohibited enhancements drugs in the Olympics aren't just banned for nothing. Not just because it's a form of cheating but every dose of those enhancements is surely associated with a health risk that might result in something worst if regularly used. Obviously, it's just usual to expect that while these players want to gain some boost, they should pay a "high cost" in exchange and that's their own health.

Enhance and unlock these athletes' potential. He's still got some and that's why he said that. It's just going to be a matter of time until the authorities will even intervene on this. They'll take those drugs for enhancement and that's going to do no good with the athletes that will participate on it. I guess it's only going to be some matter in the future that this president of this org will even say that this could be a joke and will pull a card to say that it's all just a prank.

In my understanding sport is not compatible with doping, so I have a negative attitude towards this initiative. It seems to me that the only way to get real results in sports is through regulatory training and proper nutrition. I and many other people who support clean sport think that doping is an artificial overestimation of an athlete's physical abilities. In my opinion the same thing happens when an ex-male who recently had a sex change competes in the women's qualification. It's not playing by the rules, and neither is doping.

We don't know the sincerity of this, if this is just a joke or what.
But in case they will push thru this kind of event, allowing athletes to dope, I believe some of them will get into trouble.
It is because we don't know to what extent it will affect the athlete's behavior, where being impatient or aggressive can be one of the after effect.
Well, if they will make this happen, we will know if this kind of event is possible or the organizers will regret of handling this event.
The athletes may go to the extreme of using such drugs just to see how it will affect his performance, maybe, they can implement a limit of use.

Hmm, the trouble with this is it encourages people to mess with chemical enhancers and the sort of doctors would would be involved are not the kind who have the care of their people at heart. It could spring all sorts of lawsuits, besides being unethical and sometimes including illegal drugs, from people who die from pushing their bodies past the limits that are intended. Besides that it does seem a bit sad that anyone would get joy from essentially watching a bunch of cheaters try to out compete each other. Drugs can let people stay up 3 nights in a row, or not feel pain (which is a useful mechanism for determining when something bad is happening) or reach heights of happiness that are unattainable off the drug - leading to much misery afterwards. There's all sorts of reasons this is a bad idea and shouldn't be done even out of freak curiosity.

I think the one who wanted to organize an enhanced olympics games is a dealer of enhancing drugs.  The main purpose of launching such kind of sports is to showcase their physical enhancing drugs and is pure business and does not really have the concept of being a true athlete.

This may cater interest to all kinds of laboratories and companies that creates physical enhancing drugs but I don't think that this will be honored by the sports commission nor honor the record this event created. 

Have the same thought and why this kind of sports will allow such drugs to be showcase in the world, there will be a hidden agenda here for sure. The committee should strongly disallowed players who will use such substance just to enhance their physical abilities, we all know it is not acceptable. Well, if that league will make it to the mainstream, I hope we should not normalize this kind of sport event because this can affect the reputation of many.

There will surely going to be some problems if this happens and gets into reality. Nobody wants to see this unless that person is with them and doping with them.

They may even use not athletes but just whoever wants to participate just for them to get the attention of everyone. I don't see anything serious on this and hopefully the authorities get into this before it even happens.

Lol this is hilarious actually.  I'd definitely watch a bunch of raided out athletes competing against each other.  If everyone is on the same playing field who cares 😅.  Not condoning the actions but I'd definitely be a watcher.

So we will see these athletes being sacrificed only for the benefit of the pharmaceutical companies to profit from the competition. They don't think about the long-term health of the athletes but only think about making a drug that enhances the action of the most effective of all drugs. Meanwhile, if players take work-enhancing drugs, they will become more arrogant because they feel they are super athletes who have higher abilities than other athletes. And in the end, if these work-enhancing drugs work the way the pharmaceutical companies want them to, they can submit them to the government to be used as work-enhancing drugs for soldiers. This will help soldiers to be able to increase their abilities above average.

for the group of people who are planning to have this type of sports event, they should think of the impact of these drugs to the athletes in long term. if they will be experimenting on these people, they should know the repercussions of their actions and for those athletes who will subject themselves to these drugs, they should also know what they are getting into.
maybe, as you said, they can do these to soldiers, but it is the same, both parties should acknowledge the impact of what they are doing.

Seems dangerous to advance the idea of drug development over just training.   Theres usually a downside or health risk from the various drugs possibly helping performance, putting them forward as ok immediately brings forward the health risks.  So now you have a sport where you win if you increasingly risk your health, the competetiors might be fine with it but expect their family to sue your league for everything its got.    
  At best its a joke, but mostly legal and so insurance will never cover all the risks being opened up.   Its a mad max idea, best take make it as a film instead you will make alot more money imo.

This guy must be joking, but I appreciate his idea, because all this hypocrisy around the Olympic sports must end. Let's be honest here.
All Olympic athletes are using doping in one way or another. The athletes from the big and rich nations are using better high quality doping.
That's why USA and China athletes have the most medals on every Olympic games.
Anyway, this news has little to do with the discussions around Gambling, because I don't believe that the bookies would allow betting on these "Enhanced games". I'm sure that the athletes with the bigger "doping budgets" would win all the time.

And people still think that the regular Olympics are free from drugs? C'mon man, the athletes still use performance enhancers, but they are smart enough to not get caught. The drugs are not only for D-day but also building their muscles and stuff.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sports/beijing-winter-olympics/doping-at-the-olympics-the-most-infamous-cases/3546126/

I think this "enhanced game" won't yield good results in records since the best are competing in the regular Olympic games.

There is always a chance that the participant will get away because as the time goes by, it gets modern and everything is enhanced and improved so that they will not be caught by the organizers of the said event that they are using performance enhancer drugs especially in the games that requires monstrous strengths and agility.

But in this kind of event called enhance game, I guess it will not be as fun and interesting as the regular Olympic because everybody will use PEDs.

Im sure it would attract a lot of eyeballs. Im sure everyones pretty curious to find out what the human body is actually capable of and how roided athletes would compare to those who are supposedly clean.
Lifting and endurance related fields would probably get all records broken. I wonder what would happen with games like table tennis etc.
Anyway if they did it, i would pay to see it lol

Yes, making performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs) might be viewed as an undertaking driven by financial gain. However, athletes, their trainers, and governing sporting organisations are also responsible for deciding whether to utilize these medications. This is in addition to the pharmaceutical industry. Regarding the worry that athletes can become "arrogant" as a result of using performance-enhancing drugs, it's crucial to keep in mind that character is shaped by more than just performance. Regardless of whether an athlete uses PEDs, arrogance is a possibility. Although they may increase one's physical capabilities, performance enhancers do not change a person's values, thinking, or attitudes. Last but not least, the idea that soldiers might take PEDs is a complicated one. While improving soldiers' skills may seem advantageous, this must be weighed against potential health hazards and ethical issues. A society should think on whether it is acceptable to put people's health at risk for alleged greater societal benefit.

This is pretty crazy stuff. We know that in sports, one's own strength is the main key, if one uses external help to make him win, that is tantamount to an empty title. Moreover, using doping where it will have a bad impact on future athletes. If at this event all athletes are allowed to use doping, it means that there are some athletes who are ready to use doping above the reasonable limit in order to beat the others, is the organizer responsible for the impact that will be caused? such as overdose, paralysis, and other side effects? this is not a sport, this is a psychopath.

Sportsmen usually cheat the Olympic system by using indictable drugs to boost their performance. And this will give them an undue advantage over other athletes. These banned substances will be vital during long races or sports that need some form of endurance and strength. But this enhanced Olympics gives all the athletes the privilege of using these drugs which means that all of them will be on the same page.

But the consequences of this competition on the health of these participants should be considered. The organizers should be ready for drug overdoses that could lead to death during the competition. This competition can also promote the use of drugs in society. People especially the younger generation can become drug users because this competition promotes it. At this time when many nations are fighting the high rate of drug addiction, this competition should never happen. I am glad that the Australian Olympic Committee led by Matt Carroll has criticized this dangerous and destructive competition.

It's pretty curious that PEDs are illegal and legally allowed at the same time. I mean, the government bans PED usage but there is an organization in that country that allows people to use PEDs for their competition. It's really funny and at the moment the great legal example of that is a bodybuilding contest called Mr. Olympia.

To be honest, almost everyone uses PEDs today, they try to take an advantage of those compounds that have very short half-life to be undetectable for doping tests. So, while it's true that people may abuse PEDs for that Olympic games, it's also true that modern Olympic games are not fair either. Everyone uses PEDs, so let's make it legal.

It is necessary to disclose to the public the impact of using work-enhancing drugs so that the public does not misunderstand the intent and purpose of holding the sport. Apart from that, they also need to explain everything to the athletes because they are the ones who will use the medicine, and they will also feel it later. Not only for the short term but also for the long term so athletes know what to do later if something arises.

Therefore, the pharmaceutical company that manufactures the drug must provide a more detailed explanation to the public so that people can accept it and not misunderstand it. We also don't know if other motives exist for holding the sport because they or the organizers will not provide detailed explanations. They may just want to provide a different show from what they already have. What is seen in society is that these drugs can improve a person's performance to have greater strength than not consuming them.

This is really crazy, and for sure the president of it is really on dope also, but I can seem to say that we can see their true potential if they are on that substance, as they will be influenced by something that is unnatural, which means it is not their true potential. This is very interesting, as we can see what the limit is for those kinds of people when on that substance. Though for sure, with this kind of Olympics, there are tons of new drugs being developed intended for this use, and this would be about the best drugs for those kinds of events.

I don't think that this is funny to allow dope in an Olympics game. I know that some athlete might be on some kind of drugs as their motivator to bring out a good performance, but I guess that sports shouldn't be influenced with drugs. I am not in support on this but I will love to watch how the athletes will perform.

Anything is possible since some countries have legalized marijuana intake. I hope that it wouldn't have side effect on the result of the game and athletes wouldn't get overdose on drugs when it is time for them to partake in the game. The potential in sport will be dead with drugs . One don't need to bet on such games because you will end up losing your funds since the athletes are on drugs.

It's not easy like that. Human beings aren't like machines where you put the most expensive gears in order to deliver the most outstanding results. There is also the biological factor, which may prevent an athlete from receiving a doping with positive results on his body. A promising athlete who could do great naturally may just destroy his career and his life by using those drugs due to side effects, despite those medicines being top notch on the area they promise to enhance.

Might be exciting to watch but I personally don't like things that are not real, now when a person uses a pill to become more powerful and have enhanced abilities might be able to perform better but it would still not be original because everyone watching would already know that they have used performance-enhancing pills and that is the reason why they are performing well and the audience would never really appreciate the actual efforts they are making.

I also believe that organizations like the Guinness Book of World Records shouldn't count any record made in such games because it will be an injustice to those who have done it without taking any pills but completed the achievements all by themselves and have worked really hard to do it definitely.

For countries that legalized the use of Marijuana for Olympics, its exactly cheating. Most athletes are drug addicts who hide and use drugs for the purpose to further enhance their athletic abilities, receive awards, and accumulate plaudits. Taking hard drugs for Olympic sports is highly illegal in the vast majority of countries, and if an athlete is caught using these substances, he or she will be automatically disqualified from participation, as this is a violation of the laws that govern the game. Athletes are remarkable in their fields; they go above and beyond to impress the audience and countries.

Well countries who decides poorly for their citizens allowing legalization of bad stuff are morally bankrupt. They normally reason that its medical marijuana but we know its not just that. There are several state already trying this that's why from time to time we see some kids driving in the fast lane with red eye. Cocaine started as medical treatment just as they say medical marijuana.

Allowing enhance performance drugs in sports, means its these redbulls that run the athlete, its these enhance drugs that made them win. How is that for a reputation of the sport athlete?

I did not even bother to watch the video or read the links. I don't think this will work. The tournament will have a hard time getting television airtime and I wonder if there are giant companies that are willing to sponsor this type of event. If ever the tournament goes thru event without much-needed support from the media, it won't be recognized by sports associations and groups including its world record if ever it breaks some. 

The biggest question will be about the participants. It doesn't make sense to join the tournament because they will be banned by their organizations and regular tournaments. A participant will have nothing to do and earn after the tournament then? This is a crazy idea and there will be no top athletes willing to join.

To me, one the beauties of Olympic is the fact that doping is considered as a huge abomination to the game which makes athletes of the sports to always be cautious of the kind of food or drink they consume so that they won't test positive.
The brain behind this "Enhanced game" surely want to corrupt many young people in to believing that doping in sports is actually good and sould be done

I don't know if you are a baseball fan but nothing beat the time when Barry bonds, Mcguire and Sammy Sosa were hitting 500 foot shots every night lol.  Honestly it was fun to watch.  The problem is doping is a terrible thing to teach kids that it's "alright" first and foremost.  And the second is that even if this became a thing (which I'm assuming it's a joke) even then doping won't be the same for each person and advantages from one team over another will be present.  There is no way to make that the same level playing field. 

Doping is against the laws of Olympic competition, but most countries have made it legal, which is completely poisoning the cognitive abilities and performance of the athletes. Some competitors will even take overdoses simply to be better than their opponents. PEDs (Performance Enhancing Drugs) are another slang term used by these athletes to improve their performance, yet I think it's completely inappropriate to recognize an athlete on drugs, especially a drug addict, he or she can go extra mile to satisfied him or herself with drugs,  these drugs have repercussions.

Most of us are not into illegalities but let's admit it, this still sounds interesting isn't it? It's like it was some sort of an exhibition match/games but better than it because there is no strict rules and participants are allowed to use drugs.

Maybe there are surprising acts that will happen if its telecast live like players are going to end up hurting each other, I mean for real and then people around like the referees, judges and the viewers are going to get harmed by them because we know what can drugs do to the mind of the person who are taking it especially if it was takin by a bigger volume. This could likely happen since the aim of each participant here is to win.

I hope this is just a bad joke.
But, if it is real, my opinion is that the participation of athletes in this type of competition should cause punishment for players who want to participate in other official competitions.
I also hope that this event, if it takes place, will not attract media publicity or sponsorship incentives?

Why am I so angry about this?
Doping is prohibited in sports and should always be so because, in addition to harming health, it is an unethical conduct by the athlete as it provides an unfair competitive advantage in relation to other athletes.
Whoever has more resources (money) will have much more advantage than another person who trains only with his own resources and developed techniques.

This is why doping is forbidden, as instead of getting to watch the best athletes doing their best job a sport that allows this becomes nothing more but a competition about who can take the most drugs, and if we have a problem with doping already as athletes try to cheat their fellow competitors, then the doping problem will multiply many times over if competitions like this were allowed to exist, and this does not take into account the incredibly high risk such athletes will be taking by exposing their bodies to those drugs for long periods of time.

It might be fun but it is definitely not fair for the team they were playing against because even if they do the same thing, it depends on how skilled a person is, for example, let's take soccer players and apply the same situation to them, if Cristiano Ronaldo uses pills to gain more energy and an ability boost, and his opponents also do the same, but we all know that Cristiano is basically way more skilled than them, so he will definitely outrun them all.

So that doesn't sound fair to me, also, the players who take pills to perform better won't have the same level of satisfaction that they could have if they have performed well without taking any pills or ability boosters. It's simply a different feeling when you do something with your own abilities only.

This. What people fail to consider is the fact that not only does doping give players an unfair advantage against the competition. It also endangers the player's health in the process especially if it's all about performance enhancing drugs and not the ones that's just gonna bulk you up. In any case this definitely will not receive recognition from any legitimate body of sports just cause the notion was stupid enough. Imagine if people were allowed/encouraged to use cheats in a videogame, doesn't that just drain the fun out of actually watching these players tough it out and prove that they are the best out there?

The same principle could be applied to doping olympics, cause it's basically the same thing only that you do the cheating in real life.

It will all boils down to who got the more skillset and who got the IQ to generate goals in such games where doping is allowed, we all know that almost everybody can enhance their power, speed, and strength but when it comes to IQ and skillset, they can no longer enhance that one because that requires a lot of practice and experience just to acquire it. Teams/players that just participated in the games just because of the fact cannot win anything because they are not ready nor born ready about it.

I think who ever wants to go ahead with this should first get the decency to remove the name Olympic from their program, as an athlete your biggest joy is that you can work so hard and try to become the best at what you do ad not just taking the easy road with is doping

Also the program may have attention for the wrong reasons because it's easy for athletes or anyone else to die of doping overdose, so I do think this program to go on it would be a downgrade to the natural sporting competition we have grown to see.

The Olympics is a joyous event for all athletes to be able to show their talents by carrying the good name of their country, and this must be done in a sporting and natural way without any doping which makes it unnatural for athletes to show their talents. and doping can pose risks related to health, and doping should be strictly prohibited because it is very risky for the health of athletes. And if the Olympics allows athletes to use doping, it will indirectly kill a lot of athletes in the long run.

Are they trying to market this product and make it legal? This is actually too risky since other players might have more idea about the effect of doping and hopefully the committee will strengthen their medical examination team to deny any players who are using this kind of substance. Imagine a league like this, who will win the match? This can also cause a health problem to the players, so I’m not betting on this.

Wouldn't there be a limit to the doping they'd be able to do? At least to the point where it would have no adverse effects. After all without that much of an effort to protect the players, I highly doubt this type of competition would last long. Not that I know of whether there's doping that safe though. If they were all risky at that point they might as well just research on how to build/grow a super human.

And well, on the topic of cheaters, this is a cheaters vs cheaters game which is kind of the highlight. Who's the better cheat kind of thing. Well I do get your point though. It's not just a match thing, results would naturally be compared to normal athletes and well, would just show a big discrepancy.

I agree with your statement.

Using drugs that temporarily boosts your performance is something that is artificial and synthetic- it does not feel genuine at all. With this, inconsistencies may happen which entirely defeats the purpose of sports-betting. Not to mention, if such were allowed, then teams would instead fund their development of these "drugs" instead of actually practicing their respective skills for the game.

While this may be the case, I am still curious, however, about these so called "enhanced games" and on how drugs can affect the performance of these athletes. I am just worried that ingesting too much of these pills may bring significant health impacts on the long-run.

You are right but at the same time someone that is this shameless and can propose something like this and try to make it a reality probably does not have that kind of decency on them to remove the word Olympic from their pseudo-sport, however one of the interesting things this will prove is that since I doubt any serious athlete will participate on this initiative we will get to see the difference in the results between the top athletes and those which choose to use those substances, and as such I do not think a single world record will be broken.

It is surely an unknown waters for them but the organizers are confident enough to materialize this event because they are thrilled that they are going to be the first ones to organize this kind of event even though the risk is too great to bear because we all know that doping and using PEDs doesn't have any long term benefits to a person's body.

Rest assured, medical team should be ready anytime and definitely have the right equipment to give the participants a first aid or whatever they need because I know that this event will be a bloodshed.

This not your regular olympic mate, it's completely a different type of event called enhanced games but the idea itself came from olympic games which gave birth to this event where using illegal products will be completely legal. I don't know where or when will this happen but I sure do hope that it will not be passed or materialized because this will be a total waste of resources plus it will be more of an experiment instead of games where strong men will complete.

I hope whoever comes up with these competitions understands that the main problem with doping is not that it is cheating, but that it is dangerous for athletes in terms of survival (as well as going beyond their normal capabilities, by the way). It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in watching a run if, say, a couple of athletes out of a thousand (I take a very modest figure - in fact it can be much more) die right on the treadmill every year. In general, I do not think that in any adequate jurisdiction this will be allowed.

But still, I remember a good anecdote about doping-enabled Olympics:
The commentator comments: ... he runs ... jump! seventeen meters! Good...! Not a bad jump for a chess player  ;D

I believed the presence of a medical term is already a protocol at any sport events.

Referring to this particular event in the subject, not because for the sole reason of the doping effects but rather accidents do happened unexpectedly. It's mandatory and standard protocol that medics are always there.

Anyways, if we talk about the effects of these enhancements drugs, the side effects occur mostly or being shown after a long term of usage. It can't be seen during a live event since for sure athletes are being checked if they are capable to play.

Performance enhancing drug will always pose some risks to the users body and I don't see any reasons why this kind of event should be pursued because one day they will feel that they are the strongest man or athlete in the world but afterwards, the effect is unbearable as fatigue and stress will eventually catch up with them which led to a few days rests because the body will badly need it. Some are lucky to be alive to tell their own story but to some who are unfortunate enough to survive, I hope they will be a lesson for the athletes who wanted to do the same thing.

Yes, doping is a deadly risk. As far as I know, in modern sports, the highest mortality rate among professional athletes is precisely in those sports where doping is more or less condescending. And I think that many will be surprised what kind of sports they are: for example, wrestling. It would seem that there could be something dangerous in "theatrical" battles? But the problem is that actors use doping to build muscle mass and keep in shape and it kills them.

The real spirit of sports lies in the stamina of the player. When they were allowed to use dope and other drugs, automatically the performance will be much on the drugs support and nothing comes out of the player. These kind of decisions were completely dangerous and the same could be a big blow in the upcoming generation's sporting life. Already from the very small age kids have begun to consume drugs and now this will make it much easier for them.

No, there's still part of the support that naturally comes from the player. The use of doping will combine with the player's natural performance, therefore, crossing the limit of the player's capability. As mentioned by the President itself of this event, unlocking the true potential of that player.

Anyhow, looks like they are really determined and eager to push this event. I'm sure organizers will face lots of problems before it can be actually commenced. I wonder also if the event can comply with the required and necessary permits or licenses to operate knowing they will fail on the health-related concerns as the event is a sports competition. They should also follow the country's law on wherever the event will take place.

But to rival the Olympics? Hell no. This is just an ordinary event for me if push.

They cannot be considered true sports players because they have used drugs to help increase their stamina, which should have been banned in sports associations. Someone has to have the courage to reject this idea for whatever reason because many impacts can arise for players and people who idolize players. And consuming chemical drugs like that might have a bad impact on their health in the future. So the sports association, sports committee, or whatever you call it, should react strongly to reject it.

Doping should not be allowed in any case, I do not understand who is making such insane decisions. Using drugs can be risky for the players.
Yes, the performance and energy levels of the players may increase but in the long run, this is deadly for the player themselves. I guess the players should protest against this decision.

Maybe the spectators may enjoy the enhanced player performance, but you can't risk the player's health.

This is an aberration from the Olympic games that we know and have enjoyed. The beauty of Olympic games is to even see participants who have been banned from continuing on the game for such allegations of dope and taking enhancement drugs. Although this is seen as rival sports but it will gradually influence the sports games and make organisers to relax laws against enhancement drugs in sports. I have heard of sex sports in Sweden and this is also coming up, I guess we are about to see a new creation from what we know in sports soon.

The only thing athletes and the public in general need to do in order to make those ridiculous games to disappear is to not participate in them and to not watch them, that way once the organizers behind such a competition realizes no athlete worth anything is willing to participate and the public is not watching their broadcasts anyway then they will run out of money and eventually they will disband this project, and at the same time this will serve as a warning to anyone thinking about doing this again.

I think that the organizers are just creating a market for their doping drugs.  Imagine if this kind of idea propagate, there will be a huge market for body-enhancing drugs since it will not only cover one sports but rather all sports that is listed in olympic.  This is a huge business for the organizers.


The Olympics banned many body-enhancing drugs so that the actual talent of an athlete will be shown.  I think the one planned by the organizing of this event that allow doping will have its separate set of athletes and it may not par with the Olympics in the beginning but I believe it will eventually catch up due to the possible huge funding that supports it.

This isnt only limited on athletes but also in other animals as well specially on horseracing or greyhound on which doping is really that significant to enhance out their performance but just like you do said that its not something that it would really be that ideal or something to be safe with those people or animals who had been injected or having that make use of drugs just for the sake of having that good impression and entertainment into it fans. Its true that it do really compromise out athletes health which is something that we dont really like to see or happen. It is really just that right  or enough for them to play and show up their performance
on their conditioned body not on the sense on not to make or use of any drug.Its not really that necessary but it is really just that sad that there are instances and moments on which athletes do really
end up with this kind of option just to make enhancement on the sport that they are really that getting involved into specially on major events like Olympic Games on which this one shouldn't
really be allowed.

Mate, the purpose of the said event is to allow the use of such drugs. Therefore, it will be allowed.

The participating players here obviously accept the terms and are interested in using such drugs.

The only thing that can stop it is if most countries will oppose that event and won't allow that to commence no matter what.


Obviously, participating athletes here are separated from the athletes in the Olympics.

I doubt the event will be successful because for sure the organizers will face lots of legal issues especially if the said enhancement drugs do have a status of being "prohibited in general" and not just for sports. Anyways, let's see then at the end of the year if this will really push.

It will also be unfair to the people who have created records in the past if some of these players using drugs to enhance their abilities break their records because the ones who created them in the past didn't do anything like this and have made those records all with their own energy and skills and not with the help of some pills or drugs that enhance one's abilities to perform way better than a person who isn't on drugs, this shouldn't be allowed at all.

I also wonder how would people take any interest in games where they know the players have taken skill-enhancing pills to perform better, how would the fans of specific players react who are involved in these games know that their favorites are not performing well because they play well but it is all because they are on pills.

Doping cases have been quite a lot in Olympic games during the course of time and many good athletes have been found using it and being eliminated from the games.If they will allow the doping then this may remove some of these cases which the athletes will take anyway in different forms as science has evolved and some cases can evade the checks depending on what the athletes do.I am not in favor of doping being allowed as natural competition is the best from a fan point of view but it all depends on what the athlete does,most likely the federation of such games won't allow doping.

And because of using drugs, they can set new records in the same sport, and it's not the result of their own abilities. Setting records isn't so amazing anymore because people will use drugs to set new records. But the people who watched his matches would not think that it was an achievement but that it was normal because of the help of drugs.

I'm just thinking about the long-term impact on the people taking the drugs, especially if this is successful. Drug companies will release drugs with the same ingredients as these drugs so the public can consume them. We know that consuming too many chemical-containing drugs harms our bodies. Let's hope there is an organization that will reject it.

There is no way popular athletes will join the event as it will ruin their professional careers. What we can see here mostly are new players or brand new faces in general therefore people will just start to become a follower of these athletes once the event now started.

The fans know in the first place that the Olympic-same event allowed the use of doping drugs therefore, why should they bother with that?

What matters to these bettors is to just take profit in sports betting as usual.

Well, I believe that it will be the opposite that happens. Organizations, federations, and sports groups will add further punishments, suspensions, and bans on any athletes, clubs, teams, and groups that allow themselves participating to this kind of event. I also doubt that there are companies willing to sponsor athletes or this type of event that allows doping and other illegal substances. Even governments will make a ban on this and its organizers. Maybe they can hold this event in North Korea if they can persuade Jung Un.

With regards to Sweden officially approving sex as a sport, it is not true. But we expect more reasonable events and activities that will be added as a sport soon.

Indeed. What brand would like to have its name connected to athletes making abusive usage of drugs (poisoning themselves) and decreasing their lifetime and life quality in decades? That is one of the main reasons this event doesn't make sense to exist, because there won't be public sponsors. Of course these games can still work in the shadows, belonging to something like the "deepweb", but then it won't have any recognization anyway and it will be highly restricted to select group of people who access such forbidden content, so I don't think it would be highly profitable in every cases.

Even for the athletes it doesn't worth the risk and side effects to take part into this madness.

The management shouldn't allow this because it ruins the reputation of their business and the image of the olympic games. These athletes aren't a good example especially to young aspirants who adolizes the sports. No sponsors will support this type lf olympic and bettors shouldn't support it either since they are promoting drugs and other illegal activities.
Any supporters or sponsors who will suport them will also have their reputations ruined so they should be skeptical and wise even if it could help them make money. I hope these athletes would change their mind as early as possible as it might affect their whole profession negatively.

That is why the OP bring this up because someone is planning to create one. The primary participant of it would be the unfamous people but we don't know maybe they will also open it to everyone including to the famous ones? The famous personalities will only give a disclaimer that they are only doing it for that game but I know, lots of them are already taking a drug and they only hide it from the public.

There are still people who are against drugs and drug users so they won't follow it. For some, maybe they will, only for the sake of gambling. As usual, it will still give them a hard time to analyze if who will win because each players are going to take drugs. Luck will still be their main factor here.

It is true that athletes dope in order to gain an unfair advantage over their competitors, however even if they take drugs that cannot be detected with the current methods, those methods keep improving and their samples can always be checked with those new methods and find out if they cheated anyway, so it is simply not worth it for athletes to cheat in this way, and any athlete which participated on theses games will probably be banned for life from ever participating on their sport of choosing making their participation on this competition useless as well.

Way form of cheating i would say and its not really something ethical specially if they would really be trying out to make something which cant be detected or would be find out which it is really that impossible because

once substance would enter out in our body then it would really be that could be seen or would be known about.Dont know if there's something already who had been able to create such drug or whatsoever correlated to this for it not to be detected if there would really be checks. I agree on what you do said that having these takings would really be considered cheat, why? It do really enhances up your performance compared
when you are in normal state and if the other players are taking the legit path and having no taking up or doping then they would really be having the disadvantage.

This is why it shouldn't really be allowed in the first place because this is something that wont really be that appealing on having those non-fair way on competing to each other specially on events like
this or even into those ordinary match ups.

This idea has already been challenged in some form if we consider all kinds of assistance.   Theres the case of Pistorius with missing legs and carbon fiber 'blades' who wanted to race vs the entire field of sprinters, some argued his augmentation was actually too great and had become a bonus.  I believe he won that case and was allowed to compete as an equal.   I dont know I would extend this thinking to drug use but some kind of future where technology plays a greater part in human achievements is feasible.   First of all it might happen to those who lost arms or legs or were born without, allowing them to compete with various technology relates to this subject.

Athletes' careers will be wrecked if they remain hidden while using these substances, which is preferable in some cases but not in sports. Taking substances in order to improve one's ability to do well on the track is completely prohibited. While certain authorities may have deemed it legal, I am opposed to it since not all athletes can endure the strong influence of these drugs when they begin to work on the body. We all enjoy sports, but seeing an athlete injecting drugs quietly should result in permanent disqualification and ban. Most of these drugs might induce the victim to become a drug addict, which is a very poor sign of the individual in question.

But I think there will be people, especially young people, who will support this drug because they see what effect they can get from it. And when this game does take place, it will probably be welcomed by these young people as they support having these drugs for their cause. But what is clear is that drugs like this can make them addicted and they have no self-confidence if they don't use the drug for activities.

It will be the same as they use drugs, where they will feel confident while using it. And there is an addictive effect if they don't use it. There should be further research on the use of these drugs before they are used by athletes so that there are no harmful effects for them.

This will be like a joke to the world of sports and will never get attention from athletes, because real athletes will always prioritize sportsmanship, and one form of sportsmanship is not using drugs that can make players stronger and so on.
This Olympics will only be a discourse, and will never be able to compete with actual sports whose matches prioritize sportsmanship. In fact, it is very possible that if there are athletes who are willing to take part in these Olympics, they will receive sanctions from the athlete's sports organization.
Maybe this Olympics will only be a television spectacle, and the athletes who compete are not real athletes, they are just like movie actors, like a WWE wrestling match that looks real but it's not, or it will be like the Ninja Warrior show, and the orientation is to get profit not to build a better sport, the audience will be large if it is packaged properly because people always need entertainment.

Just because you want popularity and sacrifice your future is not really worth it.
Like you said it will only keep you in shape for a while but after dependence it will be harmful to the athlete's health.
On the other hand we also know a lot of athletes who stumble over cases like this which resulted in their careers being destroyed. in this case a real example might be Lance Armstrong who made his career destroyed because of the doping that was done so in this case rather than destroying careers and making the body damaged it would be better if something like that was not done for athletes.

It will not become a battle of stamina anymore but a battle of performance-enhancing drugs and it will become a big joke they are breaking records because of the drugs they are using, big drug companies will sponsor them but the participants will ruin their bodies and this could lead to addiction for users.
I don't think this kind of idea should be supported it will banish our belief in human excellence in sports if we used performance-enhancing drugs.

Lets be real, long term drug usage even under the best guidelines and control by a doctor leads to weakness not strength in the human body.   Nothing can really beat the great design we start out with, things can go wrong and then we need correction but its temporary and the drugs usually have their own downside some of which can build up over weeks, months years into a maybe fatal vulnerability.   I think people who require organ donations then require this life time drug use to stay compatible with the organ, theres no choice but on that subject it might have the best long term feedback data for drug usage always everyday to boost a bodies response etc.

Rightly said, many people's faith will be lost for this and many players will lose their achievements and honor after being caught doping. It harms the body but many people feel and feel more energy in the body if they increase the number of red blood cells in the blood. If a player artificially increases the number of red blood cells in his body to store more energy but then damages the body. By participating in any competitive sport, it does not imply natural prowess. Also, the effectiveness of this enhancement drug does not last very long and poor performance is seen at the end of the game.

Yes, nothing beats the traditional way on how to be a good athlete on your desired sports because by going through the process, you are not just training your body because that also means that you are training your mind as well to reach your full potential and be in the rightful place where you want to be. Besides, these drug enhancements aren't suitable to use in the first place because it will always leave a negative effect to the users body which can lead to various organ disorders or much worse than that.

I don't know where did this idea came from but it's certainly not be as entertaining as they imagined it because it would be a total mess if they will push this through.

I don't think this should be considered in the first place, infact people should start WHO should kick against this because it's drug abuse and doesn't promotes fairness in sports, giving upper hands to cheaters, making the efforts of those who work hard to merit their medals seem like a waste, this could also promote drug abuse because most teenagers around the world would out of ignorance want to use drugs to enhance themselves as well.

 If an athlete feel they have full potential and would want to unlock it, then they should  embark on serious trainings and exercises that could help them increase their level of performance, because many athletes could become addicted and abuse the drugs after the competition, they should also consider the effect this drugs could cause to the health of athletes,it could cause damages to their organs or a mental health disorder as well as Anxiety, insomnia, stroke, etc regular use of drugs by athletes could also make them aggressive so it shouldn't be considered.

I really don't think they accept doping, it's not fair, because this can be considered as having an advantage over others, it's not good and it shouldn't be, yes, I know that in some competitions they are talking about accepting certain substances and it's not considered doping, but in the Olympic games, which is generally the representation of the fairest game that can exist, this should not be tolerated.

In Colombia, a law for the consumption of Cannavis is approved, the government wants to do it, with that they eliminate the problem of drug trafficking, they say that if they legalize drugs the problem will decrease and the business will fall, and well then I don't know what to think.

But in sports it is not good at all, less so in the Olympic Games because the Olympic Games represent a great example for everyone, especially for children, and the fact that they are confusing children with gender with things like drugs already seems to me to be too much, there must be and exist freedoms, but so many things that are so bad should not be, because our children are forming, whatever they see they will eat, and they are the future, just imagine that Children decide as adults, what will we have in the future? There would be no more doctors, engineers, top athletes, there would be nothing good.

Personally, you should always do everything possible to fight against drugs, against doping, that each athlete finds his way to have incentives through his own effort and not because of doping, that the force comes from the person.

This is also an important point, young people look up to their favorite athletes, if everyone began doping then this would send the message to the young people that this is an accepted behavior by society and they will begin to do it too, since their favorite athletes do it they might as well do it themselves, so those athletes not only will be damaging their bodies by the excessive use of performance enhancing drugs, they will also damage a lot of impressionable people as well.

I agree. I think people and those athletes may end up giving a wrong message to the general public. If people started to see how their performance changes with the use of those drugs, an important percentage of the population could get prompted to use those substances, ignoring the long term impact they could have on them.

Unfortunately, most of us do not meditate on the effects of what we consume could have on our bodies and minds as years pass by.
Most of sport bettors wouldn't not mind to throw some money and bet on those, though.

On the other hand, most athletes their career has a limited lifespan; so even if in the long end, drug usage leads to nothing, it will boost the performance in the active years which is what they want. I don't think that sports people that are using doping are worried about the effects when they retire from the sport.

Some conditions (even purely legal sports practise with extended exercise etc.) I've seen in recent sport careers have led to premature death and also health issues after leaving the game.  It is relevant then, if you are worse off within 10 or 20 years then it cost more then you believed it would.  For most people drug use isnt worth it, we use drugs in hospitals and medicine because its required but for sport or entertainment the answer is quite clear that its not a risk worth taking quite often thats become obvious.

That would really be giving out that lifetime kind of regret just because you are really that aiming on getting that popularity and fame on which on the time that your body or health would be mainly affected then it would
surely be having the toll on which it would be resulting on destroying your career. Somewhat i cant blame out on why athletes would really be going into this option because who doesnt really want on being known or top athlete on beating up those regular ones who hadnt been able to dope? Sacrificing your career and your health isnt something that would really be worth on doing so. Why they cant really just base up on their own capacity without the needing of doping? Sometimes people do really goes into a certain situation for you to have that kind of option because of aiming high but well its a personal choice and for you that someone
who is engaging on this one do should really know about the risks.

Basically, the effect of such drugs that are used by athletes have nothing to do with dizziness or any kind of effects that drugs like cocaine or weed have on a person when they do it, all these drugs do is enhance the abilities within the body of a person unless they have a negative reaction and do damage instead of enhancement but that depends on the body type of a person and how allergic or non-absorbent their blood basically is, but that's a different thing.

I do agree that health organizations shouldn't allow this from happening because if a whole tournament allows this and each and every athlete start taking drugs to perform better, there will surely be consequences to that a lot of players whose body won't take the drug positively, so there will be issues later on.

Hopefully, this gives serious attention to the regulators so as not to allow matches that use these drugs because more negative impacts might arise later if the matches were held. Regulators must discuss with all parties involved to find out what the impacts are, both positive and negative. When there are more negative impacts, the regulators can just stop everything. This is for the good of the athletes and the fans because the fans will not think about the consequences of the drugs. They could have consumed the drugs from the promotions carried out by the athletes.

And this happens because athletes take their bodies to the utmost limits, and if they have some unknown disease or condition then they can literally drop dead on the field, an image we have unfortunately see many times during our lives, so if doping was allowed the number of cases like that will increase dramatically, as in their attempts to be the very best they can be athletes will push the limits of their bodies and develop all kind of short and long term diseases.

Aren't there medical checks before such drugs are taken? If not, the management should be responsible for what happens to the players if there is a reaction or something due to the drug taken to enhance the player's abilities, because they are the ones who should be checking all these things if they are allowing and making their players take the drugs so that they can perform much better than their normal selves and that they manage to win the games.

Though I am totally against this thing of allowing players to openly use ability-enhancing drugs only to make the games more interesting, I still feel if something happens to the players, the management should be taken responsible for that since they should do medical check-ups before allowing a player to take drugs.

In fact, that would be the easy path for many, so it is not the idea, I also consider that the Olympic Games are very sacred, it is one of the great events that must be respected, what I think of this is that this should not be allowed under no circumstances, also athletes would not have a lot of training, psychotropic substances can make them generate a lot of strength, gain incredible motivation, this is what drugs can do to an athlete, so it is better to do these things the perops in a way natural and all the motivation must be individual and with their own effort, the Olympic Games cannot be tarnished and even less with doping.

Doping should always be something very punishable, not only in the Olympic Games but everywhere and under any law, it should not be allowed, the damage caused by drugs is very strong, drugs kill, they make the person fall into their worst state, their use cannot be allowed in sports, sports are clean and must always remain clean, this should not be tarnished either, things in the world are changing very drastically, the things that were previously considered bad and harmful now if they are considered to be good, necessary, free, a lot of freedom, there are many things that I do not agree with, because there are things that should always be respected, I am someone who respects everything related to religions, politics, sports, because I know that there must be rules for it and that is something that all humanity must respect.

Most of us are in the presence of children, how many of us children do not dream of being in the Olympics? in any sport representing our country, and when we saw cases of doping it was well punished and the athlete was banned and with good reason, because they are things that should not be allowed.

With all the pressure to succeed and be seen, isn't it a weird echo chamber? They're not seeking for a shortcut, but a strategy to survive severe competition.

Consider athletes' diverse resources and possibilities. Ability alone? Everyone wonders...

As you said, it's a personal decision. Choices have consequences. Athletes who take this danger must be prepared. The saying, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes," may apply here.

In theory yes, if doping was allowed then doctors should keep a close watch on the athletes and the reactions they have to the medicines they take to improve their performance, but at the same time it is not as if we can predict perfectly what will be the effects on a person after taking a drug, while at the same time some heart conditions are very difficult you detect, and when we add that many athletes will probably take drugs on their own without consulting their doctors then this could create the perfect storm for a lot of accidents to happen.

That's the caveat to these kind of events, you're never sure what type of performance enhancing drugs they are taking and even if they set up an official board of legal PEDs to use you can't be certain that these athlete's not going to take illegal ones, since they are all doping anyway so what difference would it make if they don't use illegal ones, and even if they did call out people who are found to use banned PEDs what are they going to do? Punish them? They literally set up an olympics where doping is legal and now they are punishing people cause the dopes they use are not what they want, let that sink in.

This is why I'm so against these types of tournaments, they don't uphold the values and the principles that they derived their rendition of their tournament from, and it's already controversial and even more convoluted that these stuff is a headache just talking about.

Speaking about on those side effects on taking up some drug. Here's some list to those who died up.

1967: Cyclist Tom Simpson dies after Tour de France
https://www.history.com/news/doping-scandals-through-history-list

The rest of the articles is really that pertaining about those doping on said competition on which these are been dated on 90's basing up on the article on which means
that its been a while for it to be applied but i dont know if this one is still that been allowed or had been prohibited but in overall then its not really that
recommended on doing so. I do agree into those words about those playing stupid games, winning stupid prizes on which this would really be the
case or situation that would really be ending up.

I don't think that anyone would ever take this seriously, like this could never replace the traditional Olympics.  If you're American ( or better stated if you live in the United States) then you're likely familiar with the MLB (major league baseball) "steroid era".  This is where many players such as Barry Bonds, Mark MacGuire, Sammy Sosa etc are all known "cheaters" who took steroids.  Barry Bonds broke the single season homerun record during this time frame and it's highly disputed now as if it's really the record or not.  Many of us joke that MLB should bring back steroids because it did in fact make the game more exciting!  That said, they are a health risk and I don't see any serious professional sports outlet taking this seriously, it's also against the law in most places.

To be honest, I think the Olympians are all doping, secretly, one way or another. They might be using drugs which are hard to detect or perhaps they flush the drugs out of their system before a major sporting event, so that their doping isn't detected.

It is a bit sad to see , since their fans cheer for them and believe in them so much... An honorable win is worth less than a shiny medal these days.

Now we have gotten to the point when the curtain falls and the charade is laid bare. What is next? The public encouragement to destroy young Olympians bodies, just so they can win a doping medal?

Besides that, doctors must also be wary of those who can easily get these drugs on the free market. Maybe the people who tried the drugs discovered something that made them want to continue taking them. And it impacts one's health in the long term, especially if there is no further research on the effects of these drugs on one's health. But for athletes, it will affect their health too because they are the first to use these drugs so doctors and researchers must routinely check the health of athletes.

Doping is also different, and those who use it always know a few ways to bypass checks.
I remember the Beijing Olympics where a Chinese weightlifter set a world record, and then in her next attempt she added 2.5 kg and broke her own world record so easy that looks like it was an ordinar thing and then she added another 2.5 kg and broke the world record again. It looks like insane cause ordinar people just can't do that.
There were plenty of such performances on that and other olympic games and not only in weightlifting. For example, in artistic gymnastics, where the legs of young 14-15 year old female athletes are 2-3 times bigger than the legs of an adult and there is no need to talk about training and proper nutrition cause this is lie.

You can watch footage from the Olympics of the 30-50s of the last century and evaluate how athletes looked then. Without doping you can not constantly update records, anyone who has done something serious in life knows that the body has its own limit, above which without doping you can not overcome.

This will affect the entire world by making the drugs legal because of the this type of Olympic Games.By this the game made the drugs to free flow in the market.It may be different one,but this is hard to apply on the Olympic games.Most of the country think the Olympic as their life time achievement.So this type of the Olympic will spoil the name of the Olympic games.Drugs will be available for free world wide after this Olympic games.Then anyone can participate using the drugs in Olympic games.Because most probably this type of Olympic was against the drug controlling.

The Olympics is the peak where athletes can get a good reputation and bring out their best to become world-class athletes. And if they use drugs, they may be able to miss the best achievements of other athletes but it still doesn't come from pure ability because drugs help to produce higher abilities. And when they get it, the government can legalize drugs for the general public, where people will be hypnotized to use these drugs to get better self-abilities than before. And yes, all sports associations should ban these doping-like drugs because they are not in line with or against the spirit of sport.

Another aspect which helps to break records is the new technology available now, years ago I watched a documentary that evaluated the differences between the shoes, track and other stuff between Usain Bolt and Jesse Owens and when you took away those differences into account Usain Bolt could beat Jesse Owens by the smallest margin possible if they were both running on the current conditions, with Owens most likely beating Bolt if they were running with the gear and conditions Owens had to face, so all in all when it comes to this discipline there has not been any improvement on performance at all and it is the technology which allows records to be broken.

Well, in that you are absolutely right, with the amount of medications that there are, it is very likely that a person who takes them without knowing how their body is internally, does not know what side effect it brings, sometimes there are people who self-edit and they do better. al, when it comes to performance enhancing drugs, the heart is the one that sets the tone, we can't take something that can speed it up more than normal, there are different types of hearts, the other day I started talking to a cycling coach He told me that he had to include a common athlete that we knew, but according to what he said, it is that when they did the medical exams his heart was not adequate, that is, he did not have the heart to be a cyclist.

When he told the mutual friend, he told him to make an exception, that he was going to train, and since my friend is not a bad person, despite everything he did, he began to train him, but when he left with the team in the peloton, his performance in particular started to go down, he was not at the level, even though he lasted at least 6 months training, he always kept up, he choked a lot, he could not be at the level of the big climbs that yes, my friend really did not he could cope with the level that others had and that frustrated him but he ended up accepting that even the type of cyclist's heart has very particular characteristics, now if a person like that, who has those foods or that particular condition, if you dope? what would happen ? It would endanger his life, and that's what drugs do.

In addition to where the idea of legalizing drugs or doping in the Olympic Games came from , which is something so Sacred, so clean in sport , whoever comes to the Olympic Games is because they have been working on it all their lives , I see that as something so unique , so hard to achieve , because any athlete is not capable of doing everything so perfectly to come to represent their Country , and if they Legalize doping then anyone who starts practicing a sport will arrive easily because the Simple fact of Drugs make the body do things that it normally can't sometimes do.

I am of the opinion that all governments and organizers of events such as the Olympic Games and other sporting events must take very tough measures against drug use, which is why it is cheating and greatly harms competition, so let's think of it this way: an athlete becomes 1 year trained every day, he wakes up very early, trains his body a lot, after many exercises the guy still has to go to work, he stops having fun, he follows a very disciplined life in order to keep his physique in good shape and power run a lot, then the day of the competition arrives, after he has positioned himself alongside many other athletes, he is left thinking that he is in front of colleagues who have also put in a lot of effort throughout the year

when the race starts he starts to run a lot but he can't win the race, although he lost the race he feels proud for having competed against great athletes, so days later he sees on tv that the winner of the race used drugs to be able to run a lot , learns that the winner of the race did not train at all, he just relied on drugs to win the races. at this time the guy who spent the year training a lot, living a disciplined life, he'll get irritated, that's not fair, that's why it's necessary to punish very severely all athletes who consume drugs in order to have a good performance

this kind of cheating should not be tolerated, imagine how disappointed fans are when they find out that that athlete they admired and respected because he ran a lot and won a lot was a big cheater, it leaves fans with the thought that the athlete did to them donkeys, they tricked them

The government and organizers are huge related to the society growth at the most.So they won't allow the drug to reach their society and most important to the younger generation.The most populated country like China,India was most addicted to the drugs,their was the huge politics behind this.Because the high population is enough for the country development.But the China population was managed by the governmet.But the Indian government fail to manage their citizen mostly from the drink and the drugs.My opinion it may be the reason for that country to be the developing coutry.In US the economy was good and people also know the control of the drug,it was one of the reason for the US Economy always upward.


The drug consumed people are more powerful as compared to the normal,Since the drugs direct connect with the nervous system of the body.It's most important one by the Olympic committee to find the drug consumed people to allow the real athlete to win the game and to avoid of  unjustice to the Olympic.The drug consume people may win the game without any practice and it will not a good win at all.It also affect the gambler who bet on the skill of the player.

First of all, I don't believe that there will be actual Olympic Games and that taking drugs for players will be allowed openly and they will let the public know about it because of the love that the public has for the Olympic Games and the number of fans there are will all be heartbroken and might even stop watching them anymore, so the probability is that this is just a rumor and if not, it's not the Olympic Games but maybe some other game misusing the name.

And, even if there are some kinds of games that are allowing the usage of drugs for their players, the players that might break any record of those players that have made the records in official Olympic Games should not be considered and accepted because this is just like cheating to achieve something.

I think it is totally irresponsible to promote performance enhancing drugs. I have seen what this does to young people and it is devastating for the people who use this. I love school rugby and some children use performance enhancing drugs at a very young age to boost them to be better than other kids. (Everyone wants to play for the A-team)

Now the problem with this is the fact that these "drug" kids are much stronger and bigger than the other kids in their own age class. There has been instances where other "normal" kids got serious neck injuries, after being tackled by the "steroid" kids.

These steroids also increase aggression and it only takes something small to trigger a massive outburst and fights on and off the field. So, if they do this professionally in an Olympic Games, then kids will accept it as the norm.  >:(

As long as it is under the supervision of a doctor and also meets the standards for use and the correct dosage, doping can be very useful and can even really have an extraordinary effect on the body of every athlete, but yes, if we talk in the long term, no matter how good the use of doping for the long term is still very dangerous for health and also how the internal organs of humans work.
If I may suggest that it is better that there are no Olympiads that allow doping users because apart from being detrimental to health in the long term it can also increase the risk of addiction to the use of doping.

My hope is that during this Olympics event no one will allow doping users and so on, I hope that this will continue to happen, so that the next generation of athletes does not become dependent on permissible doping.

I really hope this is not going to be a new hyped olypmic format that receives a lot attention, because drugs are never a good thing and this will be bad for the athletes. Just because a drug has some performance enhancing benefits in the short term doesn't make it a good thing for the sport. We also should be focusing on the long term harm that such drugs have on the bodies of the athletes. Sure, it would be nice to see how much further the human body could go and what peak performance would look like if athletes use all the special substances, they can get their hands on. But what about the athletes after their professional careers? Some of these drugs might reduce the life expectancy of the athletes by many years which would be very sad. Another issue would be that once athletes start using these drugs, they could never compete in a normal tournament again as they would test positive for drugs. There would be competitions between two types of groups in the same sport and the viewers would have to choose what type they prefer. The same goes for the advertising companies, they would probably only focus on the tournaments with the most viewers and it could become a hard competition between drug using and non-drug using athletes. Would be nice to see a poll of how many people would prefer to see traditional athletes in sports and how many would watch the performance enhanced athletes.       

What is the point of discussing if doping is allowed during Olympic games or not, if every athlete uses it unintentionally in medicine and sport supplement they take. There are not clean athletes in professional sport. And Olympic games are not about sports, but which country has best pharmacology and which athlete cleans his body better. Imho doping should be allowed, but it has to be controlled, there must be standards.

The government should evaluate every game and try to find cheating athletes who use drugs. But the government can find many problems in associations filled with corrupt people, especially those who have benefited a lot from every event held by the association.

Of course, athletes who have prepared themselves to participate in competitions will be disappointed if they are beaten by other athletes who use drugs because they feel that their preparation means nothing. They might stop being athletes and won't want to take part in any competitions if other athletes are still using drugs to get higher stamina than other athletes. So this needs attention from the government and associations so that the use of these drugs is strictly prohibited for use by athletes so that the competition will be honest because it pursues the achievements of each athlete.

Exactly, that is precisely the danger, if doping was allowed and athletes could use whatever they wanted to enhance their performance then this is basically saying to the kids that do not want to take those drugs to not even try since they will have no chance at all of ever becoming successful, however this will bring the disastrous effect of kids taking those drugs earlier and earlier and we could see a huge increase on the number of drug related deaths on sports and the life expectancy of athletes dropping as well later in life, as they begin to feel the repercussions of taking drugs at such an early age.

You saying that these athletes who've trained for a really long time to compete in the highest competition in terms of sports are doping is such an insult to them as you are basically saying that there's no way that human body can reach those heights in athleticism without the help of performance enhancers. That's what I would I expect of someone who doesn't do sports, that everyone who can do what they can't do can't be real and that they're cheating in some way. Also, where did you get that bullshit opinion that there's no clean athletes in any sports? Is the data peer-reviewed? Are there investigations that supports the claim? Any scientific journals? The reason you want doping to be allowed is cause you're weak.

It seems that I misse this thread for quite a while and I remember how that was a topic or still is a topic. In bodybuilding it is essentially accepted, at least when I watch a video from some athletes at times and they publicly talk about their stack. Maybe there are time windows when they get off to be clean during the pre-competition tests or so.

I think if we have an olympic event where doping is desired so to say, the only interesting fact about that would be that we get access to data that could then be compared to competitions where drugs are prohibited. Think about the discussions getting started when someone who publicly admits to be doped as fuck runs as fast as the winner of the "neutral" olympic games. It wouldn't allow for quick conclusions, but it would get the discussion going.

I am against it, but if people decide to put drugs into their body to run a little bit faster, I guess it is their decision.

His opinion is quite reasonable because it is difficult to deny the influence of pharmacology on the performance of athletes. The question is that not all pharmacological things are considered doping (although the list always changes over time) is another matter. To illustrate, look at weightlifting records - they have doubled in a few decades, and lightweight weightlifters lift more than previous heavyweight record holders. I think that human biology has not changed, but pharmacology has become more effective.

I will ask you a question also - have you tried any sport on a level higher than "do after work", "do it with friends" "do it at school/university"? Then you at least would have used protein, creating and other sport supplements. This is already not normal for human body, not natural. And as we speak about Olympic games - take a look on Olympic and World records in any discipline, or at least on a minimum required result to get into qualification to Olympic games. They are so high, that not a single average human can achieve that, nor most of people who do sports seriously can achieve that.

Regards athletes who has been training for years - ok, they train for years, but within several years, human get to his maximum, and without any "extra magical shot or pill" he is not able to achieve more. And as you are an athlete, when you get to your maximum, game is over. What they do then? Retire at young age? Drop sports? No, they take something to get more, get higher results. Its human nature to always want more, to want better and etc.

Are you familiar with Olympic games slogan? Citius, Altius, Fortius which is Latin for "Faster, Higher, Stronger" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_symbols#Motto_and_creed). It even forces you to pass your maximum and do better, perform better.

None of the professional athletes are clean. Olympic game athletes are even special. They are ready to do everything to become best of the best once every 4 years. I bet you have taken Omega 3 pills at least once in your life, or taken pills when you are sick. Taking this is not natural for human body. Our body must fight viruses themselves, or body must balance everything itself. However we take dipyrone when we have headache, we take omega 3 to get better skin, we take D vitamin when we had lack of sun and etc. That is doping for our body. So you think we cheat like that because "we are weak" ?

About should doping be allowed ? If everyone uses it. Why should others refuse then?

It is not that simple, while each person can decide what they want to do with their bodies, the moment they decide to compete with others then they need to abide by the rules everyone is following, besides it is not as if a person can just get to the final race and then just run with the best of the best, this is a process which takes years, so while an athlete could use enhancing drugs to runs as fast as the pros then they will be checked periodically to see if they are not cheating, and once discovered their career will be over, never having the chance of competing at the highest stage.

Then this will kill modern Olympic games. They will be not interesting to watch, it will be impossible to sell ads, athletes not gonna receive huge money rewards for winning medals. First of all no one will be able to improve current Olympic records without doping. Some part of athletes will already lose motivation. Second, if the athletes gonna get tested all the time, they wont use doping, but the sports will be crowded with average athletes, because many will be on the same or close to Olympic-athlete-without-doping-skill. I will give you example of how Olympic games would look like - imagine you watch football, and next day everyone start to play on a level women play football. Of course they will be much better than average Joe, but speed and skill wont be the same. Plus you would be charged full price or more to watch such performance.

Indeed, it was their decision to put drugs into their bodies, but in a true race, of course, it is prohibited and it is not permissible to consume it because of course it will harm other players who compete honestly and correctly.
Even if they want to take drugs, they may be able to use them in competitions where it is allowed. But of course a competition like this would violate human rights, because it would cross human limits and of course its use would cause injury and long-term side effects to the participants.

Every prestigious Olympics and any sporting event will prohibit the use of drugs, doping, steroids and any drugs to increase stamina beyond normal limits, even though their use is fatal to health and risks causing death if use is over capacity, but I don't know the reason why they created new olympics to legalize everything.

I think the world's sports experts should consider the regulations of the Olympics, if the rules are not suitable then take a quick step to remove or reject the controversy rules to restore the basis of sport based on the natural ability of training hard and competing fairly.

The there must be two Olympic game, with and without doping. Where athletes have separate records. Making such will cost hell lot of money. Not every country would have money to prepare two kind of athletes, follow their training routine and everything.

Doping and Olympic games has so much to discuss. For example you say "their decision to put drugs into their bodies". Then why Norwegian biathlon allowed to take anti asthma drugs, while other athletes are not allowed? Why first have advantage to breathe freely, while others must struggle with breath ? Because Norwegians have health issues? Then they should not participate. One of ingredients of their asthma medicine is in a list of illegal stuff in Olympics. You think it is fair? Then give everyone respirators, oxygen masks or whatever. Let everyone be in same conditions.

Whatever you are going to achieve with strength boosters or drugs is not an achievement, the name of such sport should begins with illegal and I doubt the law will allow this to function because there will be consequences, cheating must not be allowed in any type of athletics.

Those that tried to use drugs of horse races end up with many sudden deaths on horses that later raise some suspicion,  after the law deep into investigation they found out that many bets on horse races are based on lies and manipulations, I can't recall the name of the country where this happened again.

Allowing this to happen will bring an end to the Olympic games and it will open door to illegal activities too, the war on drugs won't make sense and instead it will give the weak-hearted more reasons or excuses to start using drugs.

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Olympic games are so much impregnated with doping, scandals, politics, that without them, Olympic games would die faster than if doping would turn illegal.

Do you think athletes dont want to use doping? Specially when they hit their maximum. They would love to use it, even to improve results for 0.001 second, 0.001 meter or 100 grams.

I think it will get a lot of protests from athletes who don't use drugs because they feel that what they have done, in this case, training in various ways means nothing because they lost against athletes who use drugs. And this is not a sport that shows the power of training, but this is something that is obtained from the results of taking drugs.

If drugs are allowed to be used by athletes, it may have a negative long-term health impact on the athlete. And there is a possibility that the athletes will experience addiction to using drugs in all their activities, which has become like drugs. The sports world will change, and the sportsmanship slogan will disappear if this is legalized. And I don't know the consequences for the people who also take these drugs.

Few athletes think about negative long term health impact when they see Olympic gold medal. Btw, when doing sports is always good for health, then being a professional always have negative impact on health. Because you dont train like normal people. Professional athlete body is always more worn out than a regular guys body who does sport.

There are sports that is impossible without doping. For example weightlifting. Taking doping starts from local gym. You take illegal stuff, improve, and all of a sudden your results are enough to qualify for Olympic games. Should weightlifting be banned?

Do you realize that what I am describing is already a reality right? Athletes are checked periodically and even surprise tests are conducted which have to be performed in front of the doctors performing those tests, and while this is not a problem with blood tests, even urine tests have to be performed in front of the doctors to make sure the sample is not exchanged with the urine of someone else, and yet despite all of this not only records keep being broken but athletes are still benefiting economically from the whole thing.

Then you must understand that these tests and surprise checks are useless, because athletes got caught anyway during Olympic games, and most importand, they get medals and fly home like a hero. And only after a time, they got notified “hey budddy, you are not clean. give back that medal”. Usually they dont give medals and country protects and supports them with that. The athletes who has finished 4th and turns to be 3rd with a medal, either dont get it, or get it, but nodoby knows about it. So what is the point not to use, when others use doping, get medals and return as a hero. And their locals dont care if athlete used or not doping, they celebrate that their country got a medal.

I don't think that if doping isn't allowed and they take the tests of every player before they participate in the event, they would obviously not let them play before the reports of the tests are out, and if the reports of a player aren't clear, they would simply not let them participate in the event because they have used substances that are not allowed for the players participating in the event because they use them to enhance their physical abilities and boost their performance.

But, as mentioned in OP, if the event allows players to use drugs to enhance their playing abilities and enhance their performance then there is basically no point in any medical tests or anything since all the players are allowed to do it and there won't be any restrictions for any player even if they have consumed drugs.

Sad thing is that they do testing before and after athletes perform. So they let clean and not clean athletes perform together. Majority of doping scandals happens already when the competition is over, or even when the Olympic games are over. That is why I see no point of not allowing it. It just looks stupid. What is the point of not allowing, when both athletes performs simultaneously. Either make two separate Olympic games, for those who use and who doesnt. But one thing, without doping, Olympic games wont be as bright as now, as interesting to watch as used to, we wont see any new records.

It's quite funny to me because I know that some might not agree with this because they aren't ready for what you've said as they believed it is the opposite ;D

Little did they know that it has already happened behind the curtains, even before, but didn't generate enough noise because it's already common inside the organization to use some kind of PEDs to enhance their players. Well, of course not all of them but we cannot deny that since then, many are already using some tricks to have an advantage against another.

I hope they will not allow this any kind of drugs. Let them use their own potential and do not let them use it, sooner or later it will have some bad effects in their body. In other games or sports it is very prohibited and it they are doing some blood test before the game because they won't allow this, let them show how natural strength and natural skills and talent came out , it will be a waste if they will use this instead of their hard owned talent.

Serenity is important in the game. If they create another Olympic game for dippers it won't make sense like it is a sports because they can start a fight right there as they are not in control of themselves, the substance will have greater control of them. The organizers have a reason that they don't taste participants for drugs until after they have performed and this is to make the suspense of the game real and to show there is dopping rules also. I have seen different Olympic games where the runner up become the winner because the initial winner was disqualified for failing the taste. Having another Olympic games for people that will use drug means the organizers are encouraging the use of drugs and the abuse of it in our daily lives.

If creating a full branch of sports for those that want to use enhancing drugs could keep them away from the clean branch that does not use it then it would be worth it, but those people will try to keep participating on the clean branch anyway, why do you think all sports make a point of trying to catch the ones that use those substances if an improved performance was all what mattered? They do it because they know people do not like those athletes, just look at Lance Armstrong, did he reach financial fortune by cheating? Of course, but he is now a pariah and no one will claim at all that he was a good athlete and instead he is remembered as one of the worst cheaters we have ever seen on sports, if people like Armstrong want to create their own sports which allow those substances then let them, and lets see if they can survive for longer than a year without the support of the fans.

Well that's the idea. But at the same time how would they really be able to control the levels of tren and uppers that these athletes would take before events if they're letting these PEDs from being used in the first place? There's a reason why these Performance-Enhancing Drugs are banned, and if such an event existed where people are able to take as much dope as they want to improve their ability it would utterly ruin the integrity of the tournament itself.

As for the doping technicalities that would be a problem too. People could hide how much dope they had in their system through various means, what makes the organizers think that these athletes will abide by the rules?

Well, as I said before, the Olympics Cannot be tarnished with doping, drugs, it's that they shouldn't even care that there is a category with people who are Doped because that would be Accepting it little by little, there are already many things in the world that are being lost , Respect and everything that has been done in the world, great things have been lost, now they have even tried to confuse children with all the things that come out, if something like this is accepted, then they will begin to Indoctrinate with children, that children can take drugs if they want, so these types of things are what should be avoided, in sports something can never be dirty , Everything has to be clean, things should not be allowed with them and with athletes are lost, because then many things will be lost.

The Olympic Games will always be a pillar of Cleanliness, of what Boxing can always do , one of the things that should be talked about is sports, the way it is played, like when the boxers at the last Olympics He gave the Japanese thing, which I thought was something unacceptable, at least for me I see things that way.

Along with the Olympic Games and all the trajectory they have had, the north cannot be lost, they cannot be blurred because of what very few want to achieve , now it is very important the things they can do as long as it is under effort typical of the athletes themselves , in fact when a jgudaro gets sick while in the games, that natural Medicine be applied to them, and that they improve at the moment that it has to be done, because something of a mg that is from a drug that is not within standards should be disqualified, many things can be put that way and it has happened in some athletes, this should be the only reason under which Things are positive in doping, but things are as they are, they should not Compete  because substances that do not are allowed should not be Overlooked, this should Always be the Case.

Their is already one Olympic game which is most important one,people give more importance to that game.If new Olympic come to the world games,the old game will not have their own importance.The Olympic with dope will spoil the Olympic culture and the society.The old Olympic doesn't allow the people who consume the dope to the game and also take the medal after finding of he used of dope.So the existing Olympic strictly prohibited doping at any mode,before game or at the time of game.The Old Olympic had created many star players and the players get most recognition in their country after Olympic medals.

There's a lot of sports event globally that being performed every year and some of them coincide with the Olympic. This is not a general concern anymore since Olympic is already established as the most prestigious sports event in the world. There's already Paralympic games as a version of Olympic games for person with disabilities.

I don't see any problem on establishing different sports event that is unique to Olympics.

It is important not to make it go international because it will worsen the sport's image internationally. Legalizing it in one area would be acceptable, but hopefully, it will not. If it's legalized for an international event like the Olympics or the World Cup, I can't imagine how everyone will react when they see the consumption of drugs that can increase player's stamina. It would cheat other players who want a sporty sport. Those with natural talent would also have their game disrupted because they would lose to other players who took the drugs.

If anyone asked me what the most important sport event on the planet is, I think I would not say it is the Olympic.
Sure, it has its own merits as global event where people can partake and bring medals home, but in comparison the Football World Club is more followed and it receives more attention.

Let us imagine if someone wanted to create an alternative version of the World Cup, but allowed players to dope themselves to increase their performance, I think it would not reach to have a fraction of the success the original WC has, still, there would be some people interested, but not enough to support such concept in the long term, in my opinion. It would similar in the case of an alternative Olympic Games.

I'm sure it's not. If I'm not mistaken, the rating of the Olympic Games is falling every year and fewer people are watching them. In many sports, the audience probably generally consists of the athletes themselves and their relatives  ;D The Olympic Committee is trying to change this trend by introducing new sports like snowboarding and the like, but it seems to me that 90% of young people don't give a damn about the Olympics.

I agree with the doping rules you mentioned. These substances have a positive effect if consumed according to the rules, because they increase strength and increase self-confidence, but long-term consumption of these substances can cause damage to the bodies of athletes who consume them. In my opinion, these substances are used by athletes who do not believe in their abilities, so they must first use these substances in order to appear in the Olympics. But as long as they can control what they take, I think it's fine.

And I'm also sure that there are still many athletes who are confident and very confident without doping. They prefer to keep practicing in order to get strong physical fitness and endurance.

But if you are an athlete to any event during Olympics, you would want to at least grab a medal.
Because most countries are giving money rewards depending on the medal you got from your game.
The audience may be declining but if you are the first person in your country to get a gold medal, for sure, you will be treated as celebrity and you will receive a lot of perks from all those sponsors.
The interest of people maybe changing but I can say, Olympic games can still fetch a good audience as there are still spectators on every game they offer. As you said, consider their relatives, friends, and colleagues alone.  :P
They are just more as digital audience rather than physical attendees of the games, which for me, is very understandable, after we experienced the pandemic era.
And when it comes to doping subject, there will always be an athlete who is guilty of this. However, I still believe that most are not, as they are relying on their skills, and years of doing such sports.

With or without doping, people only remember winners and forget losers. No matter how clean you are, if you lose, you lose, even if later the athlete that won got caught. Everyone will remember the winner, no one cares about post Olympic games doping scandals, taken off medals. In fact no one takes them from a winner, the other guy just get second set of medal, unofficially, without cameras and etc.

I am sure that everyone at least once cheated at school or university. But one one takes your diploma away. I am sure you have seen other guys cheated, but did little or cared little about it. I dont believe in fairy tales of a clean athletes that went to Olympic games. Every athlete takes something extra to perform better.

The issue with the Olympic games is very simple, most of the sports and disciplines are not really popular, this is why over the years the Olympic committee changed the rules for some sports and they allowed professional players instead of just allowing amateurs, this increased the ratings of sports like basketball and tennis which are popular sports, but for the rest of the sports this is not possible, as it is not as if people go crazy about archery or other similar sports.

Very good point. Olympic games consist of how many, 20-30 disciplines now? Now every discipline is exciting to watch. In fact, the existence of some of them among Olympic sports is questionable for me. For example who watches skateboarding? What about surfing? Are these disciplines even shown on tv ? The popularity and interest to Olympic games are decreasing. Allow doping (not in every sport) and it will get more exciting ;D

It's not something unusual to see athletes using doping in the Olympics, it's just that if it wasn't banned why should we talk about it here because it's not something that is prohibited, but if it's banned I'm sure any athlete won't use it, it's common for doping to be used to make athletes perform better and win the competition in the olympics,

You are right that we will not find athletes who are clean even for cheating we are used to it and not only in the Olympics, even in school whether it is any competition it is certain that to win the competition we have to do a little bit of cheating to be able to win it, so in my opinion as long as it is allowed, it is normal, it does not rule out the possibility that we all know athletes using doping is a common thing.

Those who say that Olympic athletes does not use doping, how can you explain then how they set and beat world and Olympic records during preparations on their local gyms or stadiums, but later, during Olympics, end on 10th or lower places. Or if we all have similar bodies, two hands, legs and a head, how come someone runs significantly faster? Running seems easy. All you need is a pair of sneakers and a straight line, and go ahead, train. But now, one athletes runs 20-30 faster than the other. People can say - take a look, that one athlete who won is a prodigy, of a million. Ok, but then why those 8, or those who qualified, run faster than thousands of other runners?

Well, personally I think that things when doping is discussed is something very extensive, also not only in the Olympics, which is where this type of act should not be done, but in cycling, the most famous of all, Armstrong, was a cyclist who won almost all the laps where he Participated, and at the last one they determined that he had to return all his prizes because he was found to be doping , and that the prizes went to him only for the seconds in his category at that moment, it is or in raelida It caused a lot of trouble worldwide, because he was a cyclist who already had a reputation. Those who called to give him his prizes did not accept it, because it was something that had already happened , and despite the fact that it was something that they should have been looking for from a long time ago. In the beginning, it was not the idea that at this point he would have to pay for that, there was no longer a trail and the other cyclists let him Know that.

Lance Armstrong Is the Dirtiest Cheater in Sports History


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This is just a sample of what this Cyclist did and undid , so the Authorities at that time were somewhat careless, not to mention what happened with Maradona, because it is one of the things that he himself did to perform in games and play So, when we go to the level of an Olympics, as I have already said on several occasions, this is a very crazy game, there should never be any doping attempt, because it is a great lack of respect for these sports, the drugs will never be good, and even less to make them perform or make them feel that things in their country can make them feel bigger or that they can have another type of capacity, for that reason I consider that things when it comes to the Olympics It is another level, it must be extremely clean, and yes, they must make more specialized organizations so that they do not allow doping in any way What would the example to follow be , or who would try to imitate them? Children.