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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.

But biggest surprise was phishing link received after certain amount reached. Could hacker potentially be scanning wallet and only trying to scam for bigger account?

Could they be getting too much success that they just decide to act only after certain amount level is reached.

I wont doubht that because I am not the first one being phished and funds stolen/misused. I see time to time victims and stake does not try to improve its security or they don't care about their players at all.

After loosing funds I was so angry and try every avenue to acknowledge Eddie and their tech support but I havent even gotten 1 reply from them yet.

Just venting and warning other users that stake.com is not safe and more certainly they don't care if their security is poor. They will just say account security is players responsibility.

Be safe out there and try to avoid suck irresponsible site.

Peace .

I think they need to verify it first before they act or refund you. I doubt if they'll refund you on that unless it's proven because if that bet have won they wouldn't definitely get it on your account. If you've been phished that's definitely not stake''s fault in the first place.

If the link you clicked has gone through and you input your credentials the hacker should have get it. You have been so lucky you probably have good security on your account set or else that would have been wiped out. Again, you're still just speculating and you don't have any proof/s yet if it was really done by Stake itself.

Do share some of your achievements online such as social media or group of friends because that might be the reason for you to become a target no one can target you if you are descreet on your account. Stake has a lot of players actively playing so doing this kind scam attempt is very hard to believe.

You will not be hacked if you check carefully the email regardless if the Stake itself or some hacker sent it to you since your account will not be compromised if you protect it well. This stroy of yours is a good worning to be vigilant on phishing attempt via email but not the point of doubting Stake credibility for potentially being involved on this malicious scam attempt just because you are near to rank up your vip level.

I was viper out. Hacker made 1st limbo bet it was winner. And he made 2nd bet on mines which was looser, 3rd limbo again looser. All bets were made in LTC 160, 155 and 168 ltc . After 3rd bet 29$ left in my account out of 10500 USD..


Funny thing is this exact scenario was reported aprox 6 to 8 months before and I was suspecting player made it and lost it and now producing stories. As the bets were huge . I exactly remember player claimed it was not him.

Stake definetly has more genius devs than me so I asked them to look up IP and devices associated with those bets but they refuse to reply. I only play through my phone and all other sessions it says android and location except that 1 login.

Funny thing is I was actively trying to go in slots at this point and when I see balance I freaked out went straight to support asking if anybody withdrew or tip and support showed me I made 3 beta and lost.

2 questions I had at this time
1) I was betting in USD so how suddenly it chabged to LTC value suddenly.
2)It was merely 20 seconds to load slots so sxammer waited till I was done playing with game I was playing patiently?

I still can't digest this whole situation and not getting any response from their tech devs

Damn, this is really bad.... and it can happen with anybody, because this month Stake gave 3 x Monthly bonuses, so you would have thought that it was one of them.

You should think that a hacker would realize that the 2FA stopped them from withdrawing the money, so they would leave the money ...but it is as if the anger let them deliberately sabotage your account, by betting all of it.

Stake even blocked the tipping of the money without the 2FA ...so they cannot even tip an Alt account to withdraw it from another account.   :P

First, let me point out that the fact that this did not happen all the while that your balance was low, but only happened as soon as you hit the 10,000 dollar benchmark is pure coincidence, this is nothing but coincidence because there is no way scammers or hackers can track individual wallets that is associated with stake, stake is a centralized gambling casino, and like we all know, most centralized platforms make use of one wallet system, this simply means that funds belonging to users of that platform are stored in one wallet, usually is cold or hot wallet, what users now see as account balances is the number entered by the system into the user's account when the user made a deposit, this number we now be reduced  or increased accordingly by the system as the user plays games and losses or wins, so it is some kind of impossible for scammers or hackers to monitor a user's wallet on a centralized platform like stake.com.

And secondly, you falling victim to the phishing site is clearly your fault, whether or not stake's security is high or low end, you said you only play with your mobile phone, stake has a login system that keeps you logged in forever as soon as you log in the first time and did not log out, when you clicked and opened the phishing site, I believe you were asked to log in, that should have been a pointer to you that you are in the wrong site, but unfortunately, I believe you were too careless to notice and by yourself, you gave out your login details to the scammer, how and why then are you blaming stake for your own mistake?

The balance in your wallet is inconsequential to think of making such excuse for that happening to you now. Scammers will send attractive message for you to get you to compromise which you did. I think this is where the issue on your account started, you have compromised your account by clicking on a phishing mail sent to you and that directed your account towards the hackers domain. You are knowledgeable that it was a phishing site but because of the bonus you got tempted to open it instead of verifying from the casino and or report it.

Well I think what you need to do is to reach out to stake and ensure your account is safe going forward. Is a good thing you secured your account further with 2FA.

So how would phisher get exactly same username and other data.
Also these attacks has been hppen in past to substantial values and much greater than me only. I havent seen any reports of phishing below certain amount. I am not playing victim but out of all this logical and analytical discussion you come out as "it is your fault not stake's" is more like stake is mind bowling. I thought it was discussion forum not judgemental space

Yes I exactly did that and support said my 2FA was not set.  Thats is where I found communication gap as I always had 2FA on my account since last 2 n half year.
And to be honest that might have saved me from being cashed out or tipped.
But on repeatedly saying to support my 2fA was on and it is still On no changes, they kept saying my 2FA was not on.. even as a courtesy rather than looking for phosher info they kept asking me my info and documents to "keep my account secured" is like guarding bank after robbers have robbed al the money. Reviving my account was stressful 36 hrs battle. Stake support could have used those resources to even come for an explanation about which locations and IP and devices the bets were made .

Anyway I think scammer helped me to realise stake is not the top crypto gambling site so wouldn't be putting more energy in this site which I did for last 3 years feeling and assuming best "online gambling website".
I am so closed to filing cyber security phishing complain just so stake takes this seriously and prevent this rather than just harassing users.

Also account revival felt like dragged to extend that even i have provided proof they denied this was not valid. I had to fight it to prove that it is what they asked for , I provided for instant support wanted me to post older transaction of crypto sent from wallet to stake.

I sent screenshot they denied it was not sent to stake.

I had to point the crypto amount send and it was showing in deposits same amount in stakes own deposit history. Like how would support fail to recognize legitimate stake deposit and checking rather than coming up with this was not stake deposit.


Another senior stake support chimed in when I was angry and asked if they want my DNA.

Anyway just discussing my experiance here so it can be cautious story for others.

If this comment is for me, then let me categorically make it clear to you that I am not being judgemental or judging you for whatever reason, I only stated the obvious fact which you yourself know it is the truth, you are logged in on stake and I believe you have not logged out since your first login,  and for every time you visited the casino, you were never asked to login again.

When you got and opened the mail that contained the phishing link you clicked, when the site opened and you were asked to log in, if you were really paying attention, you would have first of all verified to make sure you are on the right site before inputting your login details again, but unfortunately you paid no attention to any of this and went ahead to give your login details to the hacker,  how is this the fourth of stake ?

Now, speaking of who this hacker is and how he or she is able to monitor and know which accounts on stake has high balances, and even how he or she is able to get the email addresses associated with this account, I will personally assume this to be an insider, probably some bad eggs among the team did or is responsible for all of this, but then, this is not what is important, what is important is that you wouldn't have been hacked if you were security conscious.

That is the main problem here,user awareness was not at the desired level,OP got tempted badly to click the bonus link without hovering near the link to see where it was going in reality.We live in a digital world and we hear daily and a lot of times in a day to not click links without verifying them no matter where they came from.It is easy to fall for phishing scams as bankofamerica.com is not the same as b@nkofamerica.com which is an analogy they make a lot of times in cyber security courses I have followed.The only good thing out from this history is OP having enabled 2FA which is almost impossible to by pass no matter how good a hacker or group of hackers can be and I am talking about the app Google Authenticator,not the SMS 2FA which has been spoiled a couple of times.

I actually did log out all the time due to my recent time spent on stake. I had logged out after all active session.
I get your point of I was wrong with clicking .
Hope if it is bad egg or whoever stop doing this for their leisure as this is bad for both website and devoted players.

Sad world we live in.
But hope karma works in both ways.

Thanks for responses all.

It's not about logging out all the sessions on your device but it's about how did the hacker taken your login details. And from there, it's basically you have done something like fallen for a fake website that's just the same as stake or a promo where the offer is gullible and asked for your login details.

This is sad in all forms and you've lost money from there. Can't even blame you because you're the victim on this one and these hackers will do every social reengineering for their specific targets like you.

Sad indeed but I wish your recovery from this incident.

I hope I am really wrong about this but I think there is a way that hackers can bypass even the Google authenticator 2fa and still login into your account if you fall a victim to their phishing stuff, Now here it is...

All it takes is for the hacker to be online and follow you bumper to bumper on every step you take, now after clicking the phishing link and it opens and you are asked to login,  you type in your email address which the hacker already have, now while typing your password, the hacker is watching and typing the same into their system, when typing your 2fa code, the hacker is also watching and typing same numbers you are typing into the 2fa tab, once its six, they hit the login button, the hacker is in, maybe even before you..

Now, let's assume that 2fa codes are like one time password, that one can not use the same 2fa code to login two or more time before it expires, when the hacker is already in before you , when you click the login, you might see an error telling you 2fa is incorrect, you probably would assume you made a mistake with that code and wait for the next one, not knowing that something really malicious have happened..

All said, I can reiterate that it is the link op clicked that got him into this. He was gunning for the bonus while the hacker was targeting his account. If you click a phishing website link then you have invested in a troubled waters, unfortunately I think that was what happened from his story.

This is another lesson not to click just any link sent to you without verification of where it came from, I avoid them alot when they are sent through to my email. Sometimes they are not sent directly with the original site name but the link sent to you would bear the name and with such discrepancy, you don't need to click at all whether you activated 2FA or Google authenticator because these hackers are highly knowledgeable in tech.

This is possible if the hacker sent him a phishing link that will automatically copy and login the OP credentials real time on the same casino. The best thing to verify this is by requesting the casino for IP login history of the account and check whether there’s a record about the different IP login at the same time.

Another scenario is the OP 2FA apps was compromised too but this is very rare to happened since it needs the key to manually back up by the hacker.

I suggest you provide some evidence since this appears to be baseless criticism against a popular gambling site. Two-factor authentication (2FA) should already enhance the security of your account, preventing unauthorized withdrawals. I believe it's also a necessary safeguard when logging into the website. Just exercise caution in the future, as phishing, a form of hacking, is prevalent. Always verify the URL of the site you're visiting. If the site had poor security, there would likely be numerous complaints from various gamblers which I don't see.

After 3 years and this is the first time it happened, must have been your fault I guess.

His account was compromised, and probably after clicking such link the hacker already monitors his activity.
The support can confirm this but I think they can't help with your funds since its legally gamble on their site, better to be more careful next time.
This is not new, if the offer is too good to be true better to think again, and clicking links is not advisable even with the emails, better to confirm it first.

That is really bad. The situation clearly shows that the scammer had no option to benefit from his hack.
At this point he should have left the account but as you said it was pure revenge. It is pure evil.
It's like if the money can't be mine it should not be anyone's. Bad day for OP.  :(

You click on an anonymous link and then ask the casino to refund what they didn't. What I mean is that control remains with the user. The casino is not responsible for activities outside the casino when attacks are carried out against users, perhaps if a phishing attack occurred on the casino then the casino would be responsible but here it is you who gave access to the hacker. As far as I know, that's how it works, because you were careless and didn't do a thorough check of the email messages received. Moreover, this is related to large amounts, so you as the owner must be more careful.

        -   If you are really a victim of a phishing hacker, why will stakes.com still be responsible for the loss of your fund? After all, isn't that negligent? I'm just asking, mate. Then what also makes me think is that not all of your funds have been obtained; maybe because your 2FA is activated, that could be the case.

But when you say that stakes.com is not safe to use, that seems wrong because you were a victim of a phishing link, so that means stakes.com has nothing to do with it, right? Or the stakes will require an investigation into your issue as well.

Just to reiterate though and not defending anyone, it's not the gambling platform's fault if you have been phished or something. For sure majority of them have good security, but if you have been phished and you click some links so that blame is on you.

That's why they will urge you to do 2FA and other security measures so that the hackers can't just simply withdraw your money without any alerts or red flag on your side. But just like what you said, just be very careful on any links that is unknown to us.

On the other side, I guess it will be fine for op since the hacker couldn't get hold of the money. He would have felt really bad if another person took his money in such way to enjoy his sweat. It is a lesson for us all that before clicking on a link sent to you, you need to do some background check because a little mistake can little to regret. And another lesson is the need for 2FA google authenticator security activation to our accounts so that when hackers get succeed then they won't be able to run away with the money in the wallet.

In as much as I feel bad for what happened to OP, I still like I've told him before stand on the fact that he was wrong about what he said concerning stake not being safe,  the issue of one fallen victim to phishing scam has nothing at all to do with the platform to which the scam was carried out on, security is not just onto to the platform we are using but it has much more to do with ourselves, a hacker breaking into one's account by the means of phishing is solely as a result of the users negligence not that the platform is not secure.

Do I still Believe stake has a role to play here, and that role is to at least find out the IP address associated with the user that accessed OP's account and report that to OP, maybe there could be a way to trace who ever did this through the IP address, that is if the hacker was stupid enough not to use VPN to hide their true IP address.

Even though the hacker could not get the money, but OP is still losing his money which is something that can be said as fine.
Although Op may also lose the money himself by playing but it would be different case.
Lesson learned, always be careful with any link sent to our email. Double check first before clicking any link.
If we feel that there is something suspicious, better to ask the official support of the service to make sure whether the email is sent officially from the real service or not.

That is a very screwed up situation and the first time I have read something similar happening in any casino.
The amount OP had in his account was big enough for the scammer to try to steal his 2FA somehow through a targeted emails or social engineering , but the fact they decided to gamble away money which could not steal makes me assume the scammer was not only evil and selfish but also a victim of problem gambling to some extend.  ::)

This is just another reason to be extra careful when comes to clicking on anything which find its way onto our inbox. This could have happened to anyone unfortunately, OP just had the back luck to be deceived to click on something he should have not.  :(

Could you please help me understand the situation better? I want to clarify a few points. Firstly, were the hackers able to withdraw your funds recently, or has this not happened yet due to Stake's 2FA verification before withdrawal? I'd like to better understand the sequence of events.

It's important to figure out what happened, and I'm here to listen. However, it appears that because your account was compromised through phishing, Stake may not be at fault. I may be missing some details, so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Furthermore, I'm curious why you didn't change your account's password after discovering that it has been compromised. By doing so, you could have terminated their session and logged them out, potentially safeguarding your balance."

If they could take hold of your account then expect many things to come out through that, but what i sense was the fact that after they had gained access to your account they couldn't make any progress due to some required protocols needed to verify they are really the owner of the account, one of it is the 2FA you mentioned, many the email verification is also part of the challenges they had in moving your funds.

And it would be best for him to move his funds before the hacker does it immediately. He can avoid having his money stolen, but if 2FA can protect his account, he may need to change his password to a new one. And he should also contact the support service to ask for help solving the problem.

We must be careful in receiving any email and usually phishing emails will be similar to emails from real casinos. Usually, if the casino wants to give a bonus, we can find it in our gambling account besides sending it via email.

So next time, you have to be more careful. Make sure the name of the site address is correct and check if there is a notification on your gambling account so that you don't experience phishing again. This is a lesson for all of us to stay calm if we receive an email containing an offer bonus or because we received a gift from a certain casino. It could be that it is a trap prepared for those who are not careful.

A good question would be: How does the hacker get your E-Mail?

And why does the hacker only gamble your balance?, he doesn't win anything by doing that. If that was the scenario you could request an audit of your account to stake to see what happened there.

Sorry for your loss mate, but try talking with the site support, maybe they can help you.

This shows that we are too greedy for the bonuses and promotions that we do not try to pay attention on where we are clicking and check the links and all such stuff. Since we are too much careless with ourselves which gives scammers an opportunity to scam us and get easy money. Had he checked the link twice, this would not have happened.

I do not know how stake will go about it as this is also not their mistake if someone clicks on the phishing link and becomes the victim of the scammers.

Finally after 1 week just accepting the L. I was so angry but forum hunting for answers and knowing I was not the only one helps me to be wiser next time. And it helps me to just accept it is gone unless I file cybercrime complain but again it will he so stressful to go through knowing I was the one clicking so ultimately I can just get same answer as forum members have mentioned.

It helps to curb my spending on gambling as I don't feel comfortable gambling my own funds on online anymore. May be IRL casino time.


I really appreciate your input members.
Sorry if I was salty but haven't slept peacefully in 1 week nor was good at helping people at work as i work in paramedics feild. as it was 1st time in my life I got scammed.


May be its time to rest for a while.
Be careful out there its an evil world. And thanks again for helping me get over this L and mistale

@se stake support does little to help me or comfort me. They were just too much defensive and kept saying it was my fault and I understand it is. But I would atleast expect tech support explaining what happend and atleast reply from where I was phished and how.

Seems like they are not at all interested about preventing phishing attack.

My email was Gmail so it just showed me stake and it had my username like usual. Email link was just 1 dash off.

I have wise up and checking every link I click on.
Hope this post can help next person looking for answer who gets phished on stake because stake is too busy to explain all this.

Affirmative, if he was indeed phished, then it's not the fault of the sports betting platform. Phishing attacks are one of the most common attacks which is why it is recommended for users to double check links (very important) given how common it is.

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QQ: @Op didn't you have 2FA turned on in your account? Because if there's 2FA enabled, even if you get phished, the attacker shouldn't be able to login to your account without passing 2FA check. If it's otherwise, then it's 100% the fault of the bookmarker.

So you’re saying someone hacked your account and won you $2,000 but then decided not to cash out? If you have 2fa on withdrawals I would say that definitely saved you, and it sounds like you made money and admit you got fished so I’m not sure why you say Stake owes you something. The whole story sounds made up to be honest.

Using more concise language: "Stake.com cannot accept a phishing email as an excuse for faults. Consider improving your cybersecurity practices, especially in handling phishing attempts. Additionally, it's advisable to keep your gambling site focused solely on gambling funds."

Sorry for the loss, but i want you to remember that every phishing incident is user's fault. First what website's are you using with the same email, who knows your emails personally, who you shared stories of your gambling activities. This is a rare incident, as what i understand of what you are trying to tell is, well just i what think, Stake CS/people made the phishing email to you.

Also, at least share a screenshot of the email you received, the domain/url used you clicked to login, etc.

Stake is not safe or you are the one that's not very careful with your account information? I think you are looking for something you can't find, Instead I suggest you check yourself very well, something is wrong with whatever you are using, either a compromised email account or your PC is infected with some nasty malware.


Every phishing isn't the platforms fault, it's from your own side, if you think I am wrong you can drop some screenshots and I will prove that you are the one wrongly accusing Stake, if this is a viral threat you won't be the only one complaining such thing to the team.

If an hacker is on loose, aiming for Stake users only, by now there will be more than five people complaining the same to Stake team, they will take action instantly and notify their customers, but it's just you.

I am not a regular user of stake.com but I have known stake for a little while now and although there are other cases but sometimes I felt it was a paid accusation to tarnished their reputable or something similarly. Sometimes it weird seeing someone account didn't break any rules but was totally phished and the worst is when your funds weren't withdrawn but was used to bet..

Now what could be their aim?
Betting with your balance and after they win big they withdraw it or what?
Why didn't they withdraw the 8k or 10k that was in your account?
Sometime some complaint got me surprised and mostly likely unbelievable for such to happened, I wouldn't say it didn't happened but too shocking to believe.

How do I add screenshots here?

I feel like this is the most important part that explains the situation. I also doubt they knew how much money OP had, especially that they had no access to his account and in fact wanted to gain it by sending him phishing email. OP did not verify the source of the email, nor did he notice that the link lead to a login site, when the site used to remember him every time he went there. Most casinos remember me, I don't know how many times I had to log back in, but it usually happens once or twice a year when they do some updates. You got caught off guard and there was time to react because after logging in, you could have changed password, but if you left it like that for the night, it's all over. I have no idea why they weren't trying to withdraw, but burned the money instead. Maybe they're from competition who wants to scare people from playing at Stake? Burning funds stirs things up, that's for sure, so if they only wanted attention, not money, that's the best way.

Upload the image to https://www.talkimg.com/, then just post the image link here. You can't show the image yet since you are still a newbie.

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I'm pretty sure that Stake has some mitigation in place to prevent users from being easily phished, implementing a security feature on there is a certain responsibility for them. But specifically for your case who were already fallen for a phish, Stake did not have any obligation to explain and to seek out how exactly you got phised.

One thing I can suggest is that you try to remind back how and what kind of email initially made your account get hacked. Remember the step and detail about any sensitive information you were being entered/inputed to an obscure and unknown illegitimate site. Checking your browser history might help.

In overall, it was really at your fault and dont tend to point out your fingers on Stake just because you had been hacked due into your own negligence. Who would really be the one will be clicking out for some suspicious links sent out by someone? It is your total responsibility about the safety and security of your own gambling account. Good thing that they didnt able to withdraw but rather losing the balance you do have because of those lose bets made out by the hacker. Things might hurt more if you do know that they had stolen up your funds, so its not totally that their security is shit and thanks to that 2fa.
Arent accessing accounts on Stake does need up some email verification as far as i remember? Specially if it would be accessed on a new ip or correlates to that?

This is true because if you click any phishing link, you wont be protected by the casino or anyone since you are the one that gives the hacker the access to you account and not only on stake but even in the forum we have some hackers who will send you a link and once you click it you will be redirected to fake forum login page, and once you input your user name and password,  the hacker has access to your account because your login detail will be revealed to the hacker at the back end.
So this form of hack is not new and most members of the forum are already aware of the possibilities and existence of such malicious attempts and how to protect themselves.

Sorry for your loss OP but Stake is not to blame in this case.
The user is responsible for keeping his credentials safe and secure. I don't see how stake can prevent phishing attacks other than enforcing 2fa on login or use OTP.
I don't know what to say to reconfort you but just consider it an expensive lesson. At least now, you will be very carefull before clicking any link.

So you did get phished by someone with fake url containing clone of stake casino or what? How is this the fault of the casino? I am geniuely interested why do you think that is.
If someone steals your car keys and your car, it isn't car company's fault. Or if you get our bank card stolen with pin number, is that fault of the bank if your money is being withdrawn from the account?

So what i am having trouble to understand, is what part of this phishing am you are blaming casino for?

You said that funds were stolen/misused, so which one is it? Were those gambled? As withdraw needs google 2fa it's hard for me to believe that they were withdrawn.
I am not sure how rules for tipping works, but i would assume it isn't an attack vector either.

No one will rightly fault the gambling company for a phishing scam. I was trying to understand the OP if he clicked a random link from his email purported to be from Stake. If this is the case, Op has himself to be blamed. But if Op was in the stake website when the phising link popped up, then it is Stake that needs to be blame.
One other thing is that when we try to have some cool money in a hot wallet or gambling site, exchanges as the case may be. We should avoid clicking links and remove our minds from bonuses or free money. It is from this that we often get hacked. If you don't in one way or the other introduce a foreigner to your house, it will be difficult for them to locate you.

Received links from twitter (x platform) by a twitter user whose telling you there is a new stake casino coin available right now. Feeding off the rollbit casino coin which increased individuals balances 10x fold from the most recent pump of their altcoin.
I was suspecting it was a phishing attempt so blocked those users and deleted those messages.
Should of reported them to twitter resolution team and also to stake support because it was them who they were trying to impersonate via their casino social media account.

Even though I understand how upset you must be after losing money, I have to say that you have given a false picture of the situation with stake.com. Every online platform stresses how important it is for users to take care of their own money. You clicked on that email? Classic mistake. Users must be careful and double-check the authenticity of emails, especially when working with money

Stake.com is one of the best sites in the business, no doubt. Their security is strong, but if a person clicks on a bad link, no platform can protect them. You. The hacker might not have been able to cash out because of the 2FA protection, which is another sign that their security steps worked. It's painful to lose money, but it's not helpful to blame a reputable site without admitting your own mistakes. Remember that you need both luck and good judgment to win at online gaming, both while you're playing and when you're not

The balance in his wallet is not inconsequential because it was a large amount. But IDK maybe for you it is, because you are a whale player or a high roller? He already said that he got phished and we already know that phishers or hackers will always use sweet words for us to click on their links. Sadly the OP still click on it.

Anyway, it would be better if he can attached a screenshot of what is the email look like and on what folder did he received it? Was it on spam or in the primary/main folder? Now that he reported the issue here, I hope Stake will act quick to fix the mess in their security even though it is not the first time the issue occur as he stated. It can be our fault sometimes because we can provide our emails to some websites.

He did reach out Stake but he haven't received a single reply yet.

He did set-up a 2FA but his balance were still gambled to lose by the phisher/hacker.

The scammer may or may not have a gambling problem but the reason he gambled away all the money was only because of anger and ego.
Since he was not able to withdraw the amount he lost it all in gambling deliberately.
I haven't seen such a cruel scammer.

All scammers are cruel in my eyes anyways. Anyone who would be willing to steal that way is scum.
Ironically, all this could have ended up with the scammer earning money for OP in a very sustancial way while trying to make him lose money, if OP was aware of all what was going on with this account, then he could have even logged in on time to take advantage of such hypothetical situation. It would be such a interesting thing to tell others, many would not believe it.

One being a victim of phishing and ending up winning money because of it . Sadly, this was not the story of OP.  

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Phishing is common and this is why you should really be careful on hiding those important credentials or log-in information
so that you would really be able to avoid such possible exploits.

Aren't you the one at fault here? It all started when you clicked on that phishing link. Hackers may keep an eye on you before doing anything and collect information on whom they try to hack. But it's all random. They do not target any specific person or can see your personal balance of the platform's security measurements.

Phishing is a 50/50 chance thing same as gambling. It depends on whether the victim will click on it or not. You made the mistake of clicking that link and giving access to the hacker. Now the fact about not withdrawing your funds from your account. Maybe that hacker is unable to do it because of security issues or he just wants to tell the platform that he can do such things. Who knows?

It is you who keeps your privacy safe. You are unfortunate enough to get into the hacker's trap. Next time be sure to verify before clicking any links.

Yes just because of his mistake he blames it entirely on Stake , it's weird even sounds like dropping Stake , anyway no screenshot even though before he came back to this thread and asked how to give screenshot , but it doesn't show up and looks again , but even so it's still his mistake because won't waste time asking live support about the authenticity of that email.

Just because of his greedy behavior that allowed him to quickly click on the link without asking questions and ended up being phished by fraudsters and then he blamed the casino, it's funny to hear that, maybe this is a thread that can teach beginners not to carelessly click on any link obtained from Email or Social media, make sure it's genuine and ask questions on live support, I'm sure it won't be a waste of time.

Live support is always available and he will not caught by those phising site if he just directly go there then verify the information he receive. So he can't blame anyone for experiencing that so maybe that serve a lesson to him and to anyone that always check the message they receive since there are scammers take advantage on every situation. To many incident like this happen so better we should learn from this unfortunate incident so that we will not feed those scammers ego and try the same act.

If you have proof of this, then I think the casino will refund you. But proving that you got phished might be difficult as in the eyes of the casino, you might just be looking for a refund after a bad streak. In the future you should use more secure practices to avoid falling for such dumb traps. I am not saying that phishing is an easy thing to look out for, but as long as you remain vigilant, maybe set up 2FA and don't hand out your main email for every little thing. And make sure your website address is always correct.

I hope you have better luck in the future!

This will also teach us to check the casino account before clicking phishing email. Scammers are using bonus to attract gamblers and if anyone fall they scam him. And you have fall because of bonus. Please be careful next time. 2FA helps people to secure their accounts but if the hacker penetrate to the account information they take all. They do not think of big or small amount, anything they see in the account or wallet they would transfer all. Left you with empty wallet.
If stake really said the security of the account is on the owner's custody then that is bad because the account owner is not the developer of the website. And stake has all the login details of the site plus the security information and the clients can only sign up and login to do their activities and left and not to secure their accounts.

         -   10500 dollars is a big amount to me, I already have a house here in our country if I have that amount. Do you have evidence against what happened to you using their platform? It seems hard to believe what you are saying, even though stakes.com has had issues many times with people like you who have not been able to release their funds from the stakes platform.

Then just now I read a similar issue where from USD it was suddenly converted to LTC. How did that happen? Does that mean someone else is handling your stake account? Then why are you still playing there even though that's what happened to you? This is one of the more surprising ones, to be honest.

I dont think it is possible to get refund even if he can provide solid proof, it is completely his own responsibility and the casino is not responsible for such case IMO.
If he gets a refund then it will lead into a big problem for the casino if there are many victims of the phishing like him.
Nothing he can do now except accept the fact that he has lost the money, an expensive lesson learned ofc.

Stake requires email codes in order to withdraw, pretty sure Stake will allow the hacker to withdraw the lump sum in his stake account if the hacker had access to his email not just his stake account. Stake may also think it's not their fault why the hacker got access to his email and casino account. Thus no refund for it. 

But this appears to be an orchestrated post in the forum about Stake. The casino got hacked as well which is not a mere coincidence, stake is targeted by its competitors.

OP, first of all I would like to thank you, who have reminded us about the dangers of betting phishing, which could happen at any time without us realizing it, as you said, that is the importance of this gambling discussion, so that we know what to avoid when gambling in the name of bonuses, winnings and so on, in the end it's all phishing.

As a whole and anyone involved in gambling, phishing attacks may be an easy target for them, to defraud users, because of usernames, data is often leaked and almost average in publications and it will be easy for them/phishing to carry out their actions to hack, hopefully we all here can always be vigilant and avoid these actions, phishing is really bad.

It's good that you want to warn people about such attacks, and hopefully, you've become more cautious moving forward. But, I'm not entirely sure what you expect Stake platform to do in this situation. Phishing attacks are incredibly common, possibly one of the most common online threats. I receive phishing emails almost daily, targeting services I've never even used. Given that Stake is a highly popular online gambling platform, it's only logical that it's a prime target for phishing attacks.

Nevertheless, the primary responsibility for protecting yourself falls on you. You mentioned using 2FA, which is good. However, even with 2FA, you should never enter your login credentials on fake websites. My recommendation is to consider using a password manager; It can greatly reduce the risk of falling victim to such situations in the future.

It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.

I won't blame him entirely for that hacking incident. Hackers make it so believable that you could fall into that trap too. It's hard to guess what kind of mail he got without the screenshot. But I am sure the hacker copied the real one and made a fake that is identical. I guess I can make a suggestion in order to prevent such a thing. I have used this kind of service on many platforms.

So let me explain:-
As the hacker is logging in from a different device and location, there should be location and device-based login security. If you are logging in from a different device and location, you need to provide a 2FA code or a mail verification code in order to log in to that device. I don't know how much this could affect the privacy of users but I think this will improve the security to a different level. I am not a Stake user so I don't know if it is available or not. If not available then getting it on the platform will help this kind of hacking.

And the most important thing is, the platform can provide security only to an extent. In order to maintain the best security, we need to keep our accounts safe on our own. Don't click on every link you get via email. Verify first.

[I feel sorry for that incident OP. Hope you can resolve the issue. Get help from live support if possible and secure your account ASAP.]

Well, many people have learnt this long time ago, but it's rather unfortunately that op is just learning about this now, although I can not completely blame him, anybody can fall victim to such, because the way this hackers build the clone website, it sometimes takes only very good and 100 percent security consciousnesses to detect that the site is fake, most of the time, the only way to know that the site is a clone is by looking at the site's web address, which will always be different from the web address of the original website ..
Even though most of the time, the difference is always by a letter which look alike, so that people will not discover if not looking with extreme care and concentration..

So as long as we are here online, it is very mandatory for us to always be very careful with clicking links, to avoid being a victim to such a tail.

So so sad indeed most especially in casino where the fund are sent to gamble with and after winning huge amount your reward get diverted to another person being the scammer, The best possible solution to such thing is for individual gamblers to be very careful with links their visit and as a matter of fact always and only use the secured website link may by book marking the site in your browser.
We have to minimize the level at which we log in to our accounts using new devices or browsers, hackers may have installed some malware into those browsers and be able to monitor your activities.

I rarely click on promotional emails, but if I need to log in again after clicking the promotional email I will stop the process immediately. New tab, open the right URL (if you are an active user you are probably already logged in), and check the promotional page. Simple as that...

Well, scammers are everywhere, and there will always be scammers around. If you don't take care of yourself, others won't be able to protect you, it was and will be! There's nothing more to be said here, we learn from our mistakes... and we pay for our mistakes! The only question is how much we will pay... it's certain that some will pay more and some will pay less... but we all pay!

We cant really tell or directly be able to point out fingers that the ones behind those hacking is really coming out from their competitors on which we could really that able to say that there are really those capable ones on hacking out a site which they do see that it is really that popular and really having tons of funds inside of it. They would really be normally be finding ways or methods on exploiting it out or seeing or checking out if there would be some holes. This is one of the risks as a business owner which is related to gambling which you should really be that take priority when it comes to security but we know that there's no such thing about 100% security on this world which does basically means that nothing is unhackable.It did really just turns out that there's a solid breach on this one.

In the situation which a certain user have been able to use up his funds or having the access then it does make sense knowing about those exploits. This might be one the case that would really be related to it.
Its true that whenever you do make out some withdrawal on which it does require up some codes or verification for it to succeed which same as mentioned if ever that it was successfull then this simply
shows that the hacker does have the email access as well.

If a gambler has been involved in the online casino industry for a long time especially if he is also a crypto user then obviously he already understands phishing links so he rarely tries to enter such links.
But here it seems like the OP was interested in what was being offered so he dared to take a very dangerous action and ended up losing some money.

It's true that those who don't really understand the act of theft from accessing phishing sites must learn from cases like this especially for the OP he must start learning in the future so that he doesn easily believe in things that look suspicious of a scam.

Sometimes someone needs a bitter, detrimental experience in order to learn more about always being careful and thank you to the OP for the experience shared here because it can provide lessons and knowledge for those of us who may not know much about scam sites that share phishing links.

OP if you're having difficulty of embedding picture on your posts, this thread might help you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297889.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297889.0)

as relates to the post, there's actually tons of scammer everywhere and that's the sad reality that we have to face. So as a random player, you must also need to diversify your funds at least into three locations and keep your funds and money safe with you.

The email looks like was sent from the official stake email account, can you show the complete email address of this one so we all can see whether it is from official stake or fake one.
However I have never heard about loyalty bonus, does stake provide this kind of bonus officially maybe for high rollers only?
I would to see an official response from Stake about this case so it will be clear whether it is real phising or not, without knowing the email address of the sender and without official response from Stake.

I don't even also think on why stake will do a refund on cases where their user got phising attack, this is not their obligation so I provably say that this is users fault for not verifying the email they receive. If there's a possible refund then provably they might be a target of another abuse so its good not to take any of it and just warn this user about those people spreading phising links to hack peoples account for sure from this they can atleast lessen up the number of newbie victims of this attacks.

I do think that when a hacker gets a hold of a certain fund, they will definitely waste NO time in transferring and getting your funds from your wallet. Just to be safe, make sure to transfer your funds into a new account/wallet and report this issue as soon as possible for Stake to take cognizance of your case.


Still, try reaching out to their customer support service but I doubt that your funds or whatever amount is stolen would be recovered. As such, may this be a learning lesson on your end to NEVER click any random e-mails or links coming from unknown sources. While this experience may be unfortunate, may this teach you on how to be more careful next time.

Thank you for quoting OP's comment and I understand that you are trying to help but can you, please, edit the size of the images to make them smaller? Big images are a pain in the a** for us who have slow Internet connection.
Besides, OP is a newbie so even if he uses the img tags, the images will not show up.


Stake made it clear in their ToS that they won't be liable for such losses. See:

Besides, if they were to refund phishing victims then how can they know the player is not just lying by pretending his account got hacked?

I agree with tou on this,  stake have been the most targeted in recent time and rising crisis that have befall the casino made it more suspicious to see any further attacks as related to any form of hack to be a targeted tool to further afflict more harm to stake in one way or the other.

And looking from ops statement,  one will already know that,  stake is not at fault in this phising attack on ops account,  since if the hacker have access to his email to be able to get the withdrawal code,  it then means that the hack was an insider job.

True. You can't just accuse Stake without showing valid proofs and yet you come to warn other bettors to stay away from Stake. You know I've known Stake for long and I know they're reputable enough not to resort into wrong acts that will damage their credibility. After all, what you have are just speculations and maybe false accusations so we cannot agree on your post. Just learn to improve the security of your account by not disclosing your personal details easily, that way you don't get easily scam.

You can't see the name on the screenshot. You can see only the name until op proves that. You know anyone can use the name of stake to create an email account. Even a scammer can create almost the same email of stake as the scammer has a phishing domain which is difficult to understand by fresher.

      -  Has your concern with the stakes mate been resolved? It sounds like a lot of money to be one of the VIP customers at Stakescom, right? Maybe you are rich, and you just make gambling on the high-stakes gambling platform a hobby. Being a VIP in stakes is a privilege because you get many benefits.

Also, as far as I know, stakes will not let their good reputation be damaged just because of an issue that they are complaining about. If it has not been resolved, just wait for its response to you about that matter.

It’s really suspicious, how did the scammer know that you have so much balance? Moreover how did he know that which email is associated with this account? And he just placed the bets, so that you can suffer? For me this is a pre planned story I guess. I am assuming you yourself lost the bets, and now trying to make stake team responsible for it, so that they can send you a refund. I am just assuming. I might be wrong. If necessary proofs is being presented, then yes I might believe what OP is trying to communicate.

Well regardless of the  fact the the OP got affected by any hacker or he himself lost the bets, in both cases stake is not responsible for his losses.

It is the responsibility of the gambler to keep safe guard his system and also not to click on any malicious links. Gambling sites are only responsible for any glitches that occur in the gambling site, which did not happen in this case.

Yes, I think all casinos will also say that it is all the player's responsibility, you should not click on any links because basically Stake may have warned this, it's just that the OP may have missed it so he doesn't know much, because I too have experienced phishing whatever hacker gets into my account, he will never be able to withdraw because of my 2FA unless he plays my balance, but I will usually log out the session on another IP and change the password.

I think a problem like that is a bit strange indeed, it's true what you say, we also won't know if the user might lose the bet, so this doesn't prove anything to say that Stake has a problem because it's all the user's responsibility, it should be if it's an email, why not? verify it on this forum to find out more about whether an email is safe from phishing or not, sometimes laziness can also harm ourselves, I think this will be a valuable lesson for the OP to be more careful in the future.

You are very correct bud, completely agree with you, but then, it's rather unfortunate that some gamblers will always turn around to blame the casino for all their loses, both one that is as a result of the casino and one that is as a result of their own decisions or negligence.

Gambling is all about winning and losing, when we the gamblers win, the casino loses, and when we the gamblers lose, the casino wins, and when we lose due to a general hack on the casino, a reputable casino will make sure to refund all their customers affected by the incident as long as they still have funds to settle everyone and continue to run their business, but when the hack occurs on just a persons account, that is no longer the responsibility of the casino, but that if the player, the player him or herself will have to bear what ever loss that occur from the incident, since the hack only happened due to the gamblers negligence and not the casino, as what ever hack that came through the casino itself should affect almost every user of that casino, not just one person.

It's probably a spoofed email. This problem has been also been discussed in stake forum in the past. The hacker appears to use almost the same email address as stake but he was just changing "L" to the capital "i(I)".
There have been many hackers used this old trick. You must be careful. I have received a bunch of phishing emails as well.

My guess it's coming from
I have received some phishing emails that used capital i(I) instead of L which is lead to the phishing email from scammer.

Indeed, most casinos like Stake push the buck to the user, emphasizing personal responsibility. Your dedication to the issue is praiseworthy. Nevertheless, could this user-centric focus be a way to absolve the platform of accountability? While 2FA is effective, not all users are tech-savvy enough to implement such features. Casinos are businesses with a vested interest in keeping players secure, aren't they? A breach harms their reputation too

And about verifying emails on this forum, it's an interesting idea but limited in its efficacy. Phishers are evolving; today's "safe" can be tomorrow's compromised. Still, you're correct: "laziness can also harm ourselves," as you so aptly put it. The OP should indeed learn from this incident

You are simply caught in scammers game OP, so the blame is yours for not been very careful online, it's been a long time that scammers have been using fake email to hunt down their victims and some of them tricks looks neat than the others. It's left for you to check every details very well and make sure that the emails are from the real company, it's good to be curious as this have saved my ass few times before.

When that curiosity comes or you suspect a link, you can reach out to the company and tell ask them if it's from them, that's where you will find out the truth, but if you lacks patience you won't want to do the findings.

I do get tons of scam emails this days from both casino platforms and also other crypto platforms but before I check them out I always contact the team or customer services and it's easier to do with telegram unless they don't have telegram, some use discord too, always verify before taking a step.

This is really bad for cryptocurrency people.Stake phishing site hack your wallet.So always becarefull people Didn't add phishing site in your wallet. didn't connect any site in your wallet. becarefull people always safe this.

There is no way to prove responsibility of the site (stake) as stake is not a part of hacking or placing any bet on behalf of the user of their site. Based on your first question I want to say that the team of stake may know details of the campaign.

Your quote is too much, why not just crop it or make the image smaller with [img width=xxx]

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I don't think so, because until now the OP has not provided clearer news.
He has been a bettor on stake.com for several years and maybe with a high number of bets to reach VIP level, but doesn't know why this happened, is this OP's negligence?

I don't think this is entirely stake.com's fault, maybe there is something else that he hasn't realized about this incident.
  This is my personal assumption.

The blaming game is a classic move by losers who can't take responsibility for their own actions. You roll the dice, you spin the wheel, it's your choice. Grow up, people. A casino isn't your babysitter, and they're not there to coddle you when you mess up. If your account gets hacked due to your negligence, tough luck, it's on you. You don't get to blame the casino for not holding your hand through internet safety basic lesson. Repeating for emphasis: grow up and protect yourselves  ::) ::)

I could only imagine how it must be for you and I can overly have much to say about this since, I’ve not been in these shoes before and hope not to but then, it all seems, the fault spanned from you when you said, you clicked a link you received from a mail.
It’s just that, the amount involved is much and possibly, the hacker having no means to withdraw without your notice just decided to try themselves with few games to pleasure themselves on the success they had in getting hold of your account.

That’s just hurtful but, as someone in the cryptospace and have gambled to a level of having that amount for a bankroll, you ought to have added another layer of care to avoid these.

When it comes to how safe Stake.,com is, you can’t use this phishing mail which you someworth contributed to as a bench mark. People still enjoy the site and the safe environment it avails them.

Speaking about phishing then it is a long time known kind of scheme on which these hackers do really sweep out peoples balances if ever there's one if they had successfuly do able to breach or access a certain account. Good thing that additional security measures do really make things even more harder and just like on what happened on here that it is really just your full responsibility or mistake on why you had clicked out

such link knowing that it was really that obviously a phishing attempt but the exploiter wasnt able to pull those funds off but sadly it was been used for him to make out some bets and completely lose those balance
which it is really that a sad part for OP, this is why its never been recommendable on making yourself that clicking up links randomly knowing that phishing thing is really that something
very common whether on exchange platforms or gambling site accounts or whatever accounts that has a balance or money inside it.

It isnt really just that bad to make use of your common sense sometimes on which people do really that forgotten on how to make use of it.  ;D

There's certainly no way that Stake will be held responsible with this kind of issue as it's the player's fault to click on any link with verifying its sources (where the email came from). In regard to Nrcewker's question, it might not be the team of stake but rather other social media accounts of the OP which might exposed himself with his email and his gambling activity which caused him to be a target with this kind of scam. It's not really uncommon for someone to have multiple accounts with the same email address not only to one gambling platform or social media platforms.

Falling victim for phishing attacks can easily be avoided by enforcing 2fa as a second layer of security. If the website, where you have funds, have 2fa and the user have activated it and kept his recovery codes safe, then even if he opens a clone/phishing website and enters his credentials there, the attacker won't be able to access the original account and steal the funds.
Most services have this feature but, unfortunately, some customer aren't aware of how important it is.

Unfortunately, this doesn't change much for OP. He still lost his money regardless of whether the attacker withdrew it or lost it gambling. It's still a loss.

Additional security such as 2FA are a good thing but attacks such as phishing should just entirely be avoided by just being diligent enough onto verifying links and it's sources before clicking on it.
OP might have lost more than just on the gambling platform if he uses the same password and email on other platform where OTP are not offered especially knowing that his credentials work on one website.

If it is real phishing attack, OP basically can show us the link sent to him but he should make it unclickable to avoid miss-click by others. I dont want want to have negative thinking about the story by OP, but what you say here does make senses too. I doubt that Stake is not even responding to him because if it is real, I believe Stake will give at least a reply to give him explanation or at least to say sorry of what is happened to his Stake's account. I hope OP will be able to prove more proofs about the claim that his account was compromised.

Oh wow, you got lucky there.
Often enough these scammers, when they realize they can't cash out, they just lose everything on purpose just to make your life miserable.
1 think though, why even bother with this when they don't have 2FA. Anyway, lucky you had it activated.

Maybe it's time that every stake user has to change their email since many addresses obviously have been compromised in the hack and so on.
I don't understand why stake makes changing an email address so difficult. Have you ever try that? They want you to send countless infos, also screenshot of old wallets where you made deposits from, it's acutally insane.
If their site is so unsafe that personal data can get stolen they should at least make it easier to fix that issue I think.

I have always known "Stake" casino to be very popular, good & a reputable casino with great customer services, but with this your case about phishing scam is one thing I think you ought to have known with your 3yrs experience, and as such taken the necessary precautionary measures by ensuring to turn on 2factor authentication and always checking of site URL, but I'm sure you never did any of that, and now paying the price with your hacked lost fund, which I'm very sorry for such incident, and I will like to encourage you never to give up, because a lost fund is never the end of life, but only if we could learn from it and never repeat such mistake again.

I agreed. Since the OP said that he was a victim of a phishing link, it means that stakes.com is out here, so what the OP is saying is wrong: that he is wary of other communities entering stakes to gamble. Because the phishing link is from outside the stakes platform.

In my opinion, the only thing stakes can do there is investigate what happened to Op and Matrace and where the phishing link mentioned by the author of this article came from. So, I will repeat clearly that Stakescom is not at fault here for the bad things that happened to the OP.

Just imagine if that was a "White hat" hacker and if he bet on the 2x and he doubled his money and left it there...  :P  Well, you cannot be a White hat, if you risk someone else's money, but it would have been nice.  ;)

It is actually sad that Stake employees are not taking this seriously .... it is not funny for the victim of such a hack... and losing that amount of money.

It is also weird that the IP address of the hacker are not supplied to you.... it might have helped you to investigate this on your own. 

Op clearly messed up here. He should have checked the link carefully which is common sense. What's actually messed up is the trash hacker who gambled away the funds after realising that he couldn't withdraw it.

That is one messed up human being. Hope he receives the karma that he rightfully deserves.

It’s an unpleasant situation. Yes, you can definitely say that the level of security of your account was not sufficient. I have a separate email for all gaming sites and systematically change passwords every few months and try not to keep funds on my balance so as not to leave hackers a chance to hack my account records. In your case, the hacker was weak and he did a dirty trick.

Lol, I bet we wouldn't be having this discussion in case the scammer (we can't call someone using a phishing link to access an account a hacker) had made a correct bet and doubled the money and then left it in the account OP would basically not tell anyone about what has happened in the fear that they might take the money away if they've got it from somewhere being unaware.  ;D However, that is not what happened and it is obviously sad and unfortunate.

However, I wouldn't blame the casino or the management for not being able to do anything since it wasn't their mistake if OP has given his access himself through a phishing link which means he basically got trapped by the scammer and it is him who is responsible for the loss and not the casino management.

About the IP address, there won't be any I think.
Maybe they are accessing the account through the victims computer.

Sure he used the phishing link to log in but he said he has 2FA. If that's true the hacker only has 30 seconds to use the same 2FA code to also login. After that what can he do? You need 2FA to withdraw or tip any money to other accounts, so there is not enough time anyway.

If they use the account through the infected device there would just be the victims IP and no other one.

I think phishing has little to nothing to do with account security, because even with a very high security on your account , you still can be phished if you enter your account login details on a phishing site , which is clearly the situation with the op..

Op still had security in his account since the hacker could not withdraw the funds due to 2fa that is enabled on the account, but it's rather unfortunate that instead of leaving the money alone since he can't withdraw it, he decide to waste it, give it back to Stake, same thing like; "if I can't have it, you can't have it too", and this is pure wickedness..

And I hope that Stake will introduce a betting pin for every account, that is, when placing a bet on any game, you have to enter your betting pin (which must be different from your login password) for your bets to be approved for all through that session .

There is also a possibility that the hacker was using a VPS (Virtual Private Server) service while doing the operations and a VPS wouldn't have the IP address of where the hacker is but it will have an IP address based on the location of the VPS and that can be anywhere in the world. So, I don't really think that OP could get any clue or anything even if the casino management had supplied him the IP address that used his Stake account at that hour.

It's OP's mistake, obviously, and he definitely have learned his lesson. These things teach us that there is no free money anywhere in the world and that we should also never trust emails or messages or any other medium of receiving a promotion unless we are 100% sure that it's official.

well if tis is the case, this is clearly a human error. Why would you even give to others your 2FA right? So just take the accountability because you're the only person responsible from it. You are not suppose to give away your security keys and codes.

I've know Stake platform for a long time and they have done really well with their reputation so far, I think OP needs to learn more about phishing before accusing Stake platform of poor security, even if you have the best security, once you give access to anyone apart from you they will easily go through your accounts and withdraw your fund.

To the Stake casino, they will believe you are still the one in control, this is just an example how phishing works, I am not saying this is what really went down, it's your own fault for getting phished, and I do hope that you learn from it instead of blaming a reputable platform.

If you failed to find what went wrong, you will still become a victim again, I am saying this out of experience, they will find access into every other platform where you have accounts, including your Bank account. Stake isn't to be blamed, the problem is on your part.

You actually don't get it I suppose, what AHOYBRAUSE is saying is inline with something I've pointed out on this thread like some weeks back, and what he is actually saying is that, the same way the hacker was able to obtain the password for the account, same way also, he can obtain the 2fa code too, all the hacker needs do is to be very fast to make sure he uses to the same 2fa code the user typed in to also login, phishing means that as the hacked user is typing in his password, the hacker is seeing the digits, as he is also typing in his 2fa code, the hacker is also seeing the codes, the user doesn't have to give the code out that way you are thinking ..

The only thing there is that, since he only had the ability to use the code only one time, he can't withdraw or tip any other account, so that was why he decided to waste the money on the account by purposely playing it away .

First of all it would be hard for Stake to believe that you lost your balance due to someone else's intervention. Even if they listen to your story then still you won't be able to provide valid proof that you were a victim of a phishing attack. The Stake.com may refund your balance but it's really unlikely to happen. Sometimes gamblers lose their bets and they can come up with similar story but I believe you're telling truth and if you're lucky then Stake will listen to your story and may refund you the balance that you've lost.


I don't know if an hacker can access the internal wallets of the users and if so then they may also have access to e-mail addresses of the users because it's literally impossible to send phishing link to someone without knowing their e-mail address.


Well, it's user's fault who gets phished and if a casino refunds those affected users then it's their goodness. A reputed casino like Stake isn't responsible for someone technical weaknesses but still if they think about refunding those users then it's their generosity.



I know that you have lost funds and anyone who losses funds will have similar reaction as yours but still it's not fair to call Stake.com unsafe because of someone's own fault. Account security has always been players responsibility and if someone gets phished or hacked then the casinos won't be responsible for such thing. I know it's really hard to bear a loss of $8k but sometimes we learn big lessons from our own mistakes. I will say again that it would be generosity of Stake if they refund your balance.

Stake has already built a good reputation, and even though they were recently hacked, they are still operational now.

What happened to you is not the fault of Stake; there are a lot of hackers out there. You should know how to determine if an email is legitimate or not. Of course, phishing links are very popular, but there's always a way to verify if the email is genuine or just an attempt to hack you. As a gambler with a significant amount of money in your account, it's essential to educate yourself on ways to protect your funds wisely.

Stake had a big vulnerability because of having their own crypto payment gateway. Probably they still have it now. The latest hack only proved it and you are right I suppose hackers were available to track players' transactions and identify "big" players.

The only thing you could do to prevent it is to set max. bet limit like 0,1-0,5 LTC. Some casinos do it manually if there's no such thing in their interface (from my experience - LTC Casino, Cryptoboss - and other SoftSwiss-based crypto casinos can do that).

I hope this issue will be fixed in the future when casinos apply AI to their security systems. For example, if you are an experienced player, AI would analyze your behavior in this way:

1) You never did all-in without getting "tilted".
2) You never placed big bets in Limbo.
3) Unusual IP

=account restricted after the first bet.

We know that the phishing link does not choose a place; as long as there is an opportunity, it will immediately be placed where the scammer wants. Then it is also true that customer support in every casino says that the security of our account is up to us as gamblers and how we manage it properly. I agree here and have no questions about this matter.

That's why, if you read here in the forum, most of the communities here are saying to always be prudent and sensitive about the actions and strategies of exploitative scammers or hackers who can steal our assets from our balances on any gambling platform.

Every one licking stake a** . Yes I know its not stake fault but atleast higher up should have responded on my emails. And explain what went south rather than player who had been phished looking for answer . I contacted customer support and all they did was to restrict my account.

I had to provide all proofs after account was 0.
Wee stake lickers I am glad you all enjoying your reputable site.

Enjoy.
I got my answers and it was hard pill to swallow.

IRL is the way

This is suspicious...another player also got an email while he was playing - see this thread about how a player got phished out of 150k from his account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440588.msg61792911#msg61792911)

OP, some questions.
What exactly were the details of the 3 bets?
Had you ever received these emails prior?
Do you use this email for a lot of things, or just stake?
What was the senders email?

The reason I ask is that I think that it's extremely odd that two players received a phishing email at the time they had a balance. In the other case, stake let the entire amount to be tipped to a brand new user, then withdrawn to a wallet. In this case, the funds were just gambled away.

In both cases there is reasonable suspicion that Stake may have some involvement, as only they can know when a player has a balance and only they stand to benefit by gambling it away in 3 bets...and in the other case, it is highly unusual for a casino to let a brand new account withdraw such a large amount with no checks.

I do not think it is the real accusation as the op of the mentioned thread was last online today but the topic locked about 6 months ago without any proper announcement by the thread starter. Though there is few posts of the OP but there is no update about the case but locked by the starter. So, obviously think there might have something wrong.

I don’t know what’s really suspicious about it, some user is being targeted for phishing and that’s it. Now the point of wonder is who is at the end of all these phishing mails, whose the jacket here; is it stakes or some rogue officials within its ranks of any (which I don’t want to believe as stakes have proven to be fair and bigger than petty theft) or it’s the work of some out of the box hackers.

The fact that not just one user is receiving this mails doesn’t narrow things down to stakes but, can go down to vindicate them none the less.
Hackers typically use methods of bulk sms which is mails in this case to reach out to a good number of users. Looking for potential victims in numbers. The chances of success is in the numbers as, you can likely have a not well informed or secured user amongst them.

Best course go solution has always been, not having to respond.

Suspicious is that the user has been accused and was online even last active today but the user has had no update on the topic for about months and the user has locked the topic without any update. Why anyone will lock the thread without any update?

Stake is leading crypto casino that has been running for several years and now they have managed to have a very good reputation with customer trust so high that every customer does not need to worry about the security that Stake provides to every customer because customer comfort and security is priority the main.

It is true that some time ago Stake was hacked but now it is running normally and there is nothing to worry about because the team will also do their best so that the hack does not cause customers to suffer losses.
Regarding fake emails we can actually immediately distinguish them if we have been customers of Stake for long time because it is impossible for Stake to send email messages that might seem suspicious.

Now we can go back to playing and betting in complete comfort so don't hesitate to come back and play there.

Stake has always been amongst the world leading online crypto casino so far and I believe by now they must have fixed up the mess of the hack they experienced in the past with high sophisticated security apparatus to protect their users and their casino as well.  This casino is a casino I know that does not really take the safety and security of their users and assets for granted.  As everyone has his or her own interest, so stake does and their users are their number one priority when it gets to rendering quality services.

As for messages, every user of the platform can be able to decipher between a fake and scammy email from the original or better still if one doubts the authenticity of an email together with the originality, one is free to contact the customer care for further information because that is the only option to explore it in knowing the authenticity of the email they have received.

You have a very good point here bud, sure the attitude of the user is suspicious.
And answering to what Smartvirus said, there is no way Stake them self will engage in such petty stuff, Like I believe I have said here before, if at all the claim of the user is true, then I personally stand on what i have said before on this thread, and that is that, its likely the handiwork of some rogues in the stake team engaging themselves in sending out such phishing emails to users they have seen to have a nice sum on their stake account.

How much is $10k to $20k us dollars compared to what Stake makes every day as profit, that they should engage in such things as trying to scam their users?.

They wont really be that remaining to be the one of  the most known or popular platform here on crypto space specially on gambling industry if they havent been able to fixed up those kind of problems.
We know that issues and some errors or security concerns could really exist on a platform no matter how reputable or popular it would be on which those kind of possible breaches could happen if ever  there's one but since we are talking about being getting phished then this is something that do talks about users negligence because if account usernamen and password had been known then
there are possible reasons on which it could really be the reason on such access, whether that known phishing method or database leak from Stake itself.

Good thing that the hacker wasnt really able to successfully withdraw those amounts since there's 2FA but its really that sad which they do make out some bets and ended up on loss.
So did Stake compensate at least for the said lost amount? Totally hard to be on Stakes part but verifying out some new IP address access then they might be reconsidering such issue
but i highly doubt that they would be giving back something on what that user have lost.

One of reason why its hard to believe that they are willing to compromise their users for certain small amount while they can earn a lot of revenue from their operation so there's no relevance regarding on those claims since many knows that Stake is spending a lot of money just to increase their traffics and revenue. Maybe those people claiming that they are been scam are been found out guilty for the abuse they made on their casino and they can't accept the fact that they are been restricted due to that reasons.

To many reminders about those shady email and if they receive a deceiving mail claiming something that they can avail something unrealistic profit shares coming from them or any bonuses then they must verify it to the right supports to know the legitimacy of the email they got and avoid to be a victim of phising or scamming.

@OP you can provide the information given with your phishing, so other members here are aware because we know Stake is one of the active casinos here so it is good that other players using their platform must see this potential warning if there's a cyber security person where they can check whats the phishing really is, reason don't too much confident with the links given most likely in the internet @OP you have a budget why not buy another layer of security like anti-virus.

Also, tips for newbies to avoid phishing:

• Check the email or domain of the sender to identify if it's coming from a legit website, always check the characters sometimes they make small changes like the same letter but have different characters (eg. [original Stake, [character changes] Stàke, Stȁke)
• Check the body of the content
• Dont entertain email that you didn't commit anything with your account

Always use the security feature given by the platform you are using to prevent your account from getting compromised.

The tips you shared are good, but you should have just gone straight to that, no point mentioning Op since he or she stopped being active here since September 19th, today is already October 13th, this means that its just a few day from today and it will be one full month since the op last logged in here.

Its just like what i talked about in my previous comment, if you notice, OP didn't share any thing or information here to prove that indeed, his or her stake account was hacked and his or her money stolen, and his absents here already is a pointer to the fact that this could be a made up story after all, for if indeed, his or her account was hacked as he claimed, he or she would be active here fighting to see if he can get his money back, $10k dollars isn't that a small amount of money to move away from so easily, this is my personal believe though, since I don't know how rich the op is.

Since everything is getting more and more advanced, people who are using email service providers that filter spam emails like Gmail, Hotmail (now Outlook), and any other that uses advanced filters to filter out emails that aren't received from trusted sources will actually save users from a lot of hassle, but some people even fall for the traps after reading emails from the Spam folder in their email dashboard, which they shouldn't do because emails in that folder are generally not trusted.

I know that sometimes emails from trusted sources may also fall under the Spam category but that's very rare. That's why, people should first use email services that has such features and then they shouldn't click on any random link they received through email unless they are 100% sure that it's from a trusted source.

One receiving an email from a scammer should be able to verify the genuity of their email first before engaging. Possibly to be that they are not dealing with the wrong persons and to be on the safe side, after verifying the mail to not be from the genuine source, they should delete and block the sender domain and they would not receive any mail from them any further.

Lastly I do not think cheap black mailers can be able to distract stake from rendering services as the ought to because stake is far bigger than them to talk about. People crying of being scammed possibly tailed to fulfill their own path of agreement and that must have held them down. So I think they should go clear their names than crying foul.

Sorry, but I have seen and come to know from your post that the stake had been hacked. At the same time came to know everything was okay and the fund of the customer was safe. Though stake decreased my odd limit on sportsbook yet I think it is one of the best gambling site.

Yeah, I think stake faced an hacking attack and its hot wallets was compromised and lost almost $41M because of the hack. The hack took place in September 4 and mainly its ETH/BSC hot wallets were compromised. The Stake is really an awesome gambling site without any doubt and they'll try their best to help their users as much as they possibly can. I believe that it's one of the best online casinos who have and it'll always be on top 10 list. I don't know why they decreased your odd limit on sportsbook as that seems a little bit suspicious but overall they have been doing well in online gambling sphere.

I don't know if any reputed site had been hacked or not. I think this is the first time a gambling site become hacked and lost a lot of funds.  Regarding the lower odd limit, they said they have nothing to do and it had been made by the game provider.

Not all email messages from untrusted sources can be filtered in the spam folder, some spam messages or phishing messages are avoided by the system's verification scanning process. We must know the difference between messages from official sources and phishing messages because without knowledge we will access all the random links of inbox messages.

I recommend that you use a backup email if you register an account for each site, so don't worry about random incoming messages in your email inbox, it is recommended that you delete email messages or block emails that send spam messages.

So far we have only seen the Stake.com being hacked and lost so huge amount of money from their wallets. But after searching on Google I found that Primedice was also hacked but it was hacked by a user of the platform I guess. They have lost $1 million due to that member who found that bug in the game Roll dice and the name of the user was Hufflepuff.

If game provider has reduced the odd limit then I think that's not an issue from Stake's side and they aren't responsible for it but thanks to Stake team for giving users their funds even they have lost $41M which's a huge amount.

You can learn further about Primedice hack via this news article: Primedice hacked (https://www.newsbtc.com/all/primedice-bitcoin-gambling-site-hacked-for-1m/)

Backup email can't save us because if we click on a phishing link and/or download anything that is phishing then we will be hacked. And if we hack the the hacker may get all the site info if we save it on our browser. But if we use a separate browser then they might not be able to access that browser.

That's right, backup emails are used to register accounts on random sites, but we should ignore any unnecessary inbox messages, including phishing messages. The function of backup emails is to avoid phishing messages because we rarely access our email inbox.

However, a careless user accesses random messages without knowing that there are messages that are indicated as phishing and he downloads a virus application that can hack information in the browser and hack data on the PC. The solution to prevent this problem is to increase your PC's security protection and you can add an additional trusted anti-virus application that can detect viruses by scanning the source code of each application. By default, Windows users have antivirus on their system to prevent phishing/virus applications.

Whenever you are registering for a gambling site then it would really be that always ideal that you should really be that making use of a new account which is really that only intended or for the sake of gambling on which there's no way that you should really be making use of your main email account and this is what im doing so that if ever those emails would be exploited or would scattered out then it wont really be
flooding out your email with those phishing emails or whatsoever that you would be able to recieve. Also having you own gambling email then if you are really that mindful about new offerings or events on having those email letters or notifications then it isnt bad to check. The only thing that you should bare up into your mind is that you shouldnt really be carelessly clicking on whatever links that been shown out.
If ever it do came from a legit email then always double or even triple check on the source whether it do came from original one or not. Its really up to a certain person on how they would really be minding
much about security.

I heard the same story in the chatroom just months ago and it's almost the same scenario as yours. He was also attacked by a phishing scheme through e-mail and I am actually shocked that it does happen. The hacker used the monthly bonus event and luckily the gambler was too doubtful about the mail that he received so he asked in the chatroom first before opening it. A good moderator answered him and urged the gambler to check the mail thoroughly and not click any links if it looked fishy. The gambler was honest that he already received his monthly bonus so there's no way he will receive another and the moderator agreed with him because there ain't an update that a 2nd monthly bonus was given.
But do imagine a gambler who badly needs the money? I bet he will click anything. And the surprising part is they really looked like Stake.com's e-mail so guys better be careful especially if you are a high VIP rank, there will be a lot of evil intentions hiding in the shadows that will try to hack you.

In case we don't know, it is our responsibility for us to make sure that we avoid unsolicited links and be very careful because we don't know when we are going to get message from hackers claiming to be part of the team. Those that had been hacked in one way or the order is there responsibility and we don't have to always blame casino for nothing. If he never clicked on any link, this might not have happened at all but it is also good when a casino has a strong security that would protect gamblers from getting there accounts compromised easily.

The point is that,  we should choose between ignoring the ops or continued to present him with contending facts as it exempt stake from the phishing that he accused stake of,  this is very easy to achieve in our own end but I don't know how serious the ops is to stake up a bet with me.

That if he has any genuine problems and complains about stake, and if yes then he should approach the who.

That is what makes phishing so dangerous, when you are not expecting anything from a casino, exchange, bank or any institution where you keep some of your money then it is easy to spot the email with the phishing link, but when you are waiting for some communication to happen then it is easy to assume such an email comes from the correct source and click it without thinking about it, just last month I have received several of those emails from scammers trying to get into my bank account, but luckily I have spotted each one of them without any problem.

I think you also have a lack of agreement with the casino experience you claim here in this section. Because you have been playing in that casino for 3 years, don't say that you don't know what these phishing hackers' methods are for their victims like you.

That probably happened because you clicked on a link in the email you used at that casino. Of course, the accountability in that case is really on you and no casino anymore because you are the only one who has access to the email and not the casino gambling platform. You may not have noticed that the link you entered is actually a phishing link that you thought was actually the admin of the casino platform. I hope that will be a lesson for you, and there is nothing we can do but move on.

Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.

As long it woudnt be locked by OP then expect that replies and responses would really continue to flow into this thread on which it isnt something new and totally really just that normal for most threads which even if the issue is obviously not that really needed to be discussed about but still responses would really come into flow. So better to ignore such thread and it would be somewhat
pointless on telling op considering that Last Active:   September 19, 2023, 10:58:46 PM based up on profile.

Speaking about phishing then i dont see for someone to have the rights on telling about or putting up the blame into the platform just because someone does have
some access into his account? It is really that totally on users responsibility on keeping his account safe and putting yourself making some inputs on an obvious
phishing link, then who would be on their right minds and having that common sense would be clicking that thing?

I actually contacted the OP of that thread and asked him why he has closed it. He said because there was no hope and that he was giving up. I believe that he thought there was no point arguing because he thought it was his fault. It's common for phishing victims to feel that way as it is one of the silliest ways to lose coins.

I am not sure what the rules are surrounding PM's however you can contact him and ask him, he will tell you the same as he told me.


The timing is what puts Stake into the crosshairs. How is it that when a player has a large balance (like this scenario and the other) they all of a sudden get sophisticated-enough emails that lead to them being phished? It could happen at any other time, but instead it happens when they have a balance. That's too coincidental...

Also, how are these users emails being given to the scammers?

I think this is either a cybersecurity matter where both users are compromised enough to be sent a phishing email but not enough for the hacker to siphon the coins themselves, or stake is somehow involved.

It would not surprise me given how many other accusations there are against stake for very high amounts as of recent.

It might be correct that the phishing hack had occurred for the fault of the thread creator but the user had not locked the thread I think it is because the has no idea about how to lock the thread or forgot to lock the thread.

Phishing is always dangerous and hacker has lot of ability to be able to hack either by sending a fake email with link that has been compromised by virus and can make what you have they track and then they take all the assets you have.
For this reason we must always be careful when we receive an email that may look suspicious and if the email is in the name of a gambling site then it is better to contact support at the gambling site to ask about any developments in the casino whether the email message sent to the customer is really real.
Even though some people think this is waste of time it will at least be way to anticipate hacking using phishing links.

Just as if you receive several fake emails there must be some differences that can make you know that the message has the potential to be hacked.
It natural that nowadays there are lots of actions like this because there are so many crypto users and beginner gamblers and the majority of beginners like this don't have much experience so it easier to become victim.

Well, Op was last active here on September 19th, that is more than a month ago, this actually gives some concerns regarding the credibility of OPs claim that his stake account was phished and he lost the amount he claimed he lost.
If i were asked, I would say that there are two things his absence here is revealing to us.
The is first is, it's either the op is so damn rich that the money he claimed he lost on stake is nothing to him, so it's very easy for him to forget about it and move on with his life.
And the second is, maybe the phishing that the op is claiming happened never did happen, and the claim here about it happening is nothing but probably a way to try to get back at stake for whatever reason, to make them lose customers.

Remember op didn't share any evidence to proof that his account was phished, and now, he's not been here for over a month now, so maybe nothing really happened.

And talking about locking the thread, we can all report it to the mod and ask them to lock it, because i do not think op is coming back anytime soon.

Well, I am glad he unlocked the thread again, because a new Phishing attack was launched in the same time that the post monthly was given out. These attacks are timed perfectly to trick people, when something are officially dropped by Stake. (Stake has nothing to do with this, but the scammers jump on the opportunity to confuse people, when there are other bonuses being dropped)  >:(

So, reminding people regularly about these Phishing attacks are a good idea... and it should be done more often. We need some "White hat" hacker groups to go after these scammers, so that they are held responsible for their actions.

 

That is the best that has to be done as in Cybersecurity there is no stronger weapon as user awareness,I am adding here to always check if the email is from the official Stake email before rushing to click any link as the first step to achieve better security.Whoever uses Google or Gmail as an email service they have it really easy as Stake when it comes to monthly bonuses usually that email filters in the Promotions tab,nevertheless I always double check before clicking anything suspicious and I do not rush.

The White hat hacker groups I think is a good idea but difficult to implement as White hat hackers are after finding bugs for big companies so unless they are hired specifically by a company it will be difficult to make them go after these scammers.

User awareness would really be your best weapon or would really be that security because you could really be able to assess yourself on the right decisions you would really be needing to do whether its risky or not.
Getting phished just because you had visited out some links because of some random clicks? That do really shows on how reckless you are or simply you are just that dumb? Well, there are really moments or times
on which we do really miss out on doing the right thing due to lack of experience or awareness but not really that 100% because just like been said that on the time that you would really be that
be able to do the right thing or you are really that sensible or wary about on the things around been happening then you cant really be that easily get phished.

On situations like this then it is really that mostly users fault or mistake and it doesnt really have no sense that you would really be pointing out your fingers into a site or company just because you have just get phished?
You would really be just making yourself look like a clown if you do really point out and making a platform been blamed on such situation.
security things would really be always depending or would really be that according on how you do set things up. If you are careless then expect for these situations
to happen into you.

True. It should be changed to a warning about phishing schemes or beware of phishing through e-mails. This ain't a new case and it has been happening not only in the online gambling industry but also in different popular exchanges. Somehow these hackers got a hand of our e-mail addresses and they are sending messages to it. I think there's a website where we can know if our address is in jeopardy of this phishing or not, somehow they can know it is stained by bad dirt.
Stake.com has nothing to do with this, the same with the popular exchanges that also have nothing to do with e-mail that came from a different end. That's why we have to be careful at opening links either from e-mails or just websites that offer something that is too good to be true.
Just to stretch this type of problem, most of these phishing schemes are using the bonuses which means they also know the date and time on when those bonuses will be sent, so we have to be really careful.

The perpetrator didn't get anything out of it because the perpetrator just used the account to gamble so I don't know how they can report it as getting scammed but OP did definitely become a victim of a phishing attack and a much worse one because from what I've read, it looks like OP's attacker had control over his account remotely which is scary because that can mean that the hacker can probably access private files. I would probably be careful about my wording when it comes to this topic not deserving such attention, you're right that Stake doesn't have anything to do with it but I think that since they're the platform involved, maybe they can offer some help?

And to OP, I think that it's in your best interest to do this kind of post in Scam Accusations board and follow the format on reporting a scam or the incident and try to provide the screenshots that might help you regain that money if that can ever be a possibility.

How it did become to fit out on scam accusation? He had been phished and its not on the platform itself about having that mistake because its clear that its users mistake and error on why he had
let someone do able to access his account. Good thing that the hacker didnt able to get the cash or balance because of 2fa which is a good call but sadly the amount had been used on making up
some bet and ended up on a loss which it is really that something that frustration would really be extreme level. There's no way that you could really be having the fight on blaming out Stake for this,not because im that advertising their signature but even on other platforms on the time that there's someone who do have access into your account just because you have been phished
then its actually your own fault and blaming out the platform could lead up you nowhere.

Looking at the whole situation,  this only calls for more security for us as individuals,  this is because most times we tend to make some form of mistakes that end up affecting us in a negative direction,  e.g phishing some Sometimes we expose our devices to malware that may have seat in our device for long and haven't monitor your activities,  to the point of having access to your various log in detail of you have them stored on the device.

But at. At some point,  if you have a top feature or 2FA security feature in place in the account,  you have some level of security for your funds if there is any possible attack on the network.

Yes Op is the victim here but I think that he is being phished so he must be chill and not arguing the stake support cause for sure the casino has working in it just gave them time for sure they can solve that problem. The more Op arguing the support team then there's a high chance that they will hold that issue.
That's the reason why everyone of us must be vigilant cause nowadys there are many phishing link that we must not click cause once we go on that link  and login our personal details then they will got all of that and there's a chance that our funds will lost.

I don't know dude but the fact that you've answered that OP became the victim of phishing speaks for why this should be on Scam Accusations board, don't the phishing websites are also posted there too? Plus that's where you find the cautionary tales of what not to do and what to do in case you encounter a scam right and not this board, I think it's a common sense to put it there.

On where he should really be putting up  some scam accusation or pointing out his finger? To the given link? I wouldn't really be that believing that scam accusations board would really be relevant
but rather it would be in this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182222.0 which i do see for it to be that having sense to be posted up on there specially on
suspicious links and not on scam accusations.Just like been said that i dont see that Stake should really be blamed since its users fault.

This is why 2fa is recommended, it wasnt been created for nothing.You would really be only considering its relevance or importance on the time that you would be losing
money on which you shouldnt have done that earlier.Always be cautious about on the probabilities that could really happen.

2fa security gives you another level of security that hackers may find hard to break through if it is in place on an account,  although sometime one of the major attacks that affect gamblers account most comes from either malware that have stayed for long in the gambler device and also have gotten access to so many things on the device such as even having access to the 2FA security feature and apps on the phone and he can easily have them reinstall on another third parties device that will help the gain access anytime their are ready to take action against the account owner by stealing the money in the account.

This have been one of the most popular attack process that have been noticed lately and even before now that phishing attacks discussions is gainiing wide attention and many people are becoming concern with that security risks.

It's true that OP hasn't been active for more than a month but, to be honest, I have no reason to question his credibility. Maybe he realized his mistake and finally got convinced that losing the money was his own fault and that stake has nothing to do it so he just left and forgot about this thread all together.
I hope he will get back here and post an update. Otherwise, maybe one of the admins will intervene and lock this thread. The problem is the misleading thread title! Only OP can change it and I hope he will do it soon.

When it comes to security then im really that mindful when it comes to this thing on which if ever i have noticed that my mobile or pc is really that having some malware then i do really find ways for it to be cleared up or would really be cleared.We do have different ways on making some security measures on trying out to clean up something if you do notice that there's some malware.
This is why that if you dont like for you to lose money then you should really be that careful on clicking up links or downloading random online which its never been wise or not really that
ideal on doing so because you are really that prone to getting infected.

Once your device is infected then you would really be having that chance on getting hacked which it isnt really that limited on gambling accounts but also in other
accounts as well neither bank accounts or some accounts you do have in other platform or any wallet which it is really that imposing such risks.

I did not read all responses but nothing was done in my favor.
I have board exam coming up so just was diverting my energy to it.
No way I am rich . I work 6 days everywhere. 
Gambling was hobby and ofcource I was loosing as math always works .

This phishing and stake's poor response made me quit bitter in terms of gambling online.

Hope after I pass boards can recoup money loss in phishing by working with better pay and more hours.

But 3 things
1. I accept I got phished and took L
2 no way I am rich nor I was lying
3 stake never responded on that case . Just support told me to change password and provide like 10 proofs to regain account.
I did recoup account to get my bonuses

Not active as before on here ad stake.

Stay safe members and hope this never happens to anyone even if they rich because it hurts alot mentally when this things happen.
Specially first time.

Best wishes.

Losing your money is always difficult, and losing it because you were the victim of a scammer is without a doubt many times harder, as it can be difficult to come to terms with it and accept what happened.

Since it seems that you are moving away from online gambling and you will begin to do so in real life instead then it could be a good idea to learn as well of all the scams that exist and that could come your way as you move to physical casinos and gamble there.

Security is not something to be taken lightly. When it comes to devices, theres an urgent need to be critically cautious and vigilant. Many individuals underestimate the profound implications of a compromised device. How often have we heard of folks brushing off security alerts or updating their malware protection? Too often, if you ask me.

And heres the crux: its not just about your personal device's health. The consequences extend far beyond. A single infected device can jeopardize bank accounts, other platforms, wallets - the list goes on. Its an interconnected web, and one vulnerability can expose the entire network. Awareness and action are paramount. A proactive approach, rather than a reactive one, is the need of the hour, dont you think

Honestly, I have no argument to discuss the OP's credibility since he's been inactive for over a month which raises different hypotheses. The topic title is very misleading and should have been changed before leaving, or the stake platform representative should have asked one of the admins to change it if it is not possible to close the topic currently, since the discussion is still ongoing in it, as it appears. As for the last 4-5 pages, I'm sure it's definitely spam, and the most plausible hypothesis is that the OP doesn't know how to lock the thread.

Well good to you on that,  and I am glad that you have a stable work where you spend 6 hours daily and sure it is a pain in the ass for small guys to lose money most especially in cases like this or being scammed,  but then this is all features of the online world and that is why we do advice that we all get to be wise and conscious enough not to allow a third-party access into anything we have a password as privately on.

I believe you are going to concentrate more on committing your time to something more realistic even though you may have to work extra hours to cover up which is a great thing also at sometimes,  but then I advise you to stay off gambling for a while and in as much as it goes gambling whether you like it or not,  you must ensure loses at some point that may make you want to keep chasing it,  that is the reason why we say gambling is not a good means of earning and rather gambling should be done just for the fun of it.

If you are that someone whose really that earning average on a single day on which it is really just that sufficient when it comes to your living then it would really be that always wise and recommendable that you should really be making yourself that staying away with gambling yet we know on how risky it is and could really that affect when it comes to financial state not unless if  you are really just that spending on the money on which you can afford to lose then it would really be an another story. Good thing that OP did accept out that mistake on which getting phished is common specially if you arent really that careful when it comes to the things that you are dealing with. You cant really just that make yourself that go with things so carelessly knowing that hackers and scammers is really just that everywhere and if you dont make yourself that careful then you are really that
prone on such risks.

In overall, If you arent that rich then spending money on gambling is never been that ideal and since op is already that aware of those things that could happen then its good to know
but its just that normal that experience and real time scenarions could really be giving out that kind of learning on which it do makes us aware on next time.

Op was online on the 23rd of October, which is a day before yesterday, i am pretty sure that he or she must have visited this thread but still did not find it plausible to say anything, this makes me believe that his accusation of being phished on stake was nothing but a big sham, lie.

And secondly, if indeed he or she does not know how to lock a thread, then let him or her here and I believe every user who knows how to will be more than willing to tell him how, or better still, he or she can just search on google, "How to lock thread on bitcointalk".

And again, Stake representatives don't have to actually do anything, if we users feel the thread should no longer be open for discussions, we can simply report it to the mods, and with time, the mods will lock it, this is not impossible or hard to do.

Exactly the point, because even if a platform has very good security but the account bearer jokes with their account security information, they would definitely help hackers gain access to their account, and in such a situation, the casino, or whatever platform it is, would not take blame for it. How can one receive a phishing email and go ahead to click on the link attached to the email? It's never right to click links without properly verifying if the link or the email is from the right source. I hope that OP can practice always verifying a link to see if it's right or not before he can open it. Sometimes, once a link is inserted inside a word or sentence, unless you copy it out, you can tell if it's the correct link, so it's not wise to even click a link directly from the source and cross-check if it's correct.

I find this to be a logical and sound analysis. I would like to add about the Stake platform itself, whose reputation can only be affected by this misleading title. The title is what most represents the problem in this topic, since the lie hypothesis is the most likely. Stake platform representatives can clarify in a separate topic and ask the administration to close the topic or at least change its title. I think this is the least that can be done within the limits of possibility.
I have reported the topic and I hope that moderators will take into consideration the reputation of stake's platform.

This isnt really just some problem with Stake but also it could really be that just a common things that do affect any casinos out there on which if there would really be those kind of accusations or
complaints that been raised then credibility of such platform would really be that in verge on getting that be tainted but since this community cant really be just that easily to believe then it is really
that not much effective most of the time on trying out to take down a certain site and since we are talking with phishing on here then it is really just that safe to presume  that this is really
that on users fault. Once other people do have access into your site just because you have just get phished then its really that whole discetion on what happened and not on the platform
itself. It is really just that showing on how reckless you are and now you are putting up some blame to the platform? It doesnt make sense.

Such act of disloyalty and falsehood is what have me not paying any much attention to threads such as this one that seeks to build a one-sided accusation and without any backup evidence to support the claims because judging from what has happened and the discussions here in the thread,  ops may have already given up in his attempt to blackmail or frame up things around here at some point just to prove nothing much.

Sometimes those who come up with such accusations,  if asked to provide evidence will simply just walk away and never return to the thread,  but then we believe the thread will be locked at some point by the moderator.

Look, folks, I've seen this many times... Gambling if you're barely making it? Bad idea, bad idea. Isn't it simple? Why take risks without cash? Gambling is dangerous. You can get into serious problems if you're not careful.

Now, OP being phished is fairly common. The internet is full of hackers and scammers. They're everywhere, waiting for a mistake. So be careful, extremely careful.  In conclusion, avoid gambling if you're broke. No way is it ideal. Always watch out for cunning hackers. Be careful, folkss

The better option is to bookmark the URL of the site and open the link from the bookmark so there won't be a risk to go another site and by then there will be no chance to be phishing by the mistake of that user. As a result, the user can make physhing free of himself/herself.

Hahaha, it true that almost all gamblers have difficulties and don't easily accept losing money especially if they lose money in scam casino and become victims of fraud perpetrated by a scam casino.
Maybe gamblers who are victims will come to this forum and immediately enter the gambling section to express what they are experiencing and even really ask for solutions or suggestions so that what has happened can be resolved.

Almost any gambling site that does not have high trust rating and good reputation will have high chance of being shady casino so we as gamblers should avoid such types of casinos.
Even though it is difficult to differentiate there are number of large casinos that are popular and certainly have good reputation.
My advice is to use a casino like this rather than using a small casino that has not been proven to be reliable.

I don't consider the title of this OP IDEAL! The reason why I said this borders around the ills of the digital space. The concept of phishing link is not in anyway connected to the stake site. Stake site is just one of the sites they decided to take advantage of. There are phishing links for even myetherwallet site.

Generally, we should be careful of phishing links and ensure to avoid clicking links or verify the url of those links when we see them on our devices. I make no mistake about checking the url in my devices before I click, that is if I have to.

When accusations are being made, it is imperative that evidence is placed in demand so that the accusations would be accorded the attention it deserves but going by this display of OP, it is assumed that these are one of the recruited blackmailers paid to carry out such tasks against their perceived competitors which they would go at all cost to discredit but it is obvious OP could not get it straight but to ignore as the pressure is becoming high to prove their points.

Personal caution is what OP failed to take in his or her own case. So why then blaming the casino and yet can not provide any evidence pointing to the casino as having a great deal in it.

Why would anyone want to lock this specially of it is learning curve. I learned my mistake. Went to giving and angry phase for loosing 10k. Now it is for educational purpose so other people don't have to go through this and stake wont give a flying F if you do.

I am not broke broke but 10k to scam definetly hurts unless you are multi millionaire or have daddys money
So my question is why paid members of stake wants to frame me and lock this. Why are you so concern about locking and title if u r just normal forum members.

Peace

And to all stake fans . Unlocking my account was more hassle. I had to provide older transactions to stake as a proof which was 1 requirement out of 9 or 10. Even though I provided hash and transaction ID stake support was not ready to believe it was sent to stake. I had to highline stake deposit from their sight and my transaction to prove it was indeed sent to stake.

Guy argued me for whole day on this so you can see how user friendly they are.

You can check out the transaction id from the account where you have sent it out easily. If you take from others then you may ask them or you may just find out all the receipts of the address that is on your stake profile. But if you cant login into the account then you can't get this help.

I don`t sure, that the problem is in paid members. The problem is that unknown member argue with the named bookie. In this situation the bookie will be right because he is well-known.
I learned such a lesson several years ago. Today i don`t have more than $1000 in any casino.

I don't think anyone should say to lock the thread until there is a solution to the accusation. But if the accusation is closed right now should lock the thread as there is no more complain. Also, I don't think any paid member should be too much concern about it. We should be aware and keep the side of the person who lost the fund especially to the right person.

Promoting a service in or on this forum should never be a reason for anyone to be biased in their judgment when it comes to the issue of scam accusation, manipulation or whatever brings or is causing displeasure or dissatisfaction to the user of the service being promoted.
And this is because, in the end, if such service goes down due to such scam activity or what ever it be, then the promoter of that service will all lose their job and it may take some time for them to find another.

So, if there be any user wearing stake signature and calling that a scam thread that has not be resolved be closed, then that very wrong, allow stake to handle the issue and provide a solution, you are only hired to promoting the service, not hired to defend their wrong doing.

This is exaggerated behavior on the part of some members who believe that they must always defend the service that they promote in their signatures or in any other way. This can be seen in many cases, especially when they are published in the official announcement of the casino or in topics that discuss complaints about the service or even direct accusations of attempted scams.

It would have been better for their position not to be biased in any way and to be aware that critical evaluations are important for every service that wants to maintain a good reputation.

You have perfectly said. To lock any thread by the paid member is not desired hence the participant of the campaign should try to solve the case so that there is not accusation. But if without solving the problem insist on locking the thread then it will not be for the site itself.