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September 08, 2023, 03:14:57 PM
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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.
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If you have proof of this, then I think the casino will refund you. But proving that you got phished might be difficult as in the eyes of the casino, you might just be looking for a refund after a bad streak. In the future you should use more secure practices to avoid falling for such dumb traps. I am not saying that phishing is an easy thing to look out for, but as long as you remain vigilant, maybe set up 2FA and don't hand out your main email for every little thing. And make sure your website address is always correct.

I hope you have better luck in the future!

I dont think it is possible to get refund even if he can provide solid proof, it is completely his own responsibility and the casino is not responsible for such case IMO.
If he gets a refund then it will lead into a big problem for the casino if there are many victims of the phishing like him.
Nothing he can do now except accept the fact that he has lost the money, an expensive lesson learned ofc.

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September 08, 2023, 03:30:21 PM
 #62

BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.
Peace .

If you have proof of this, then I think the casino will refund you. But proving that you got phished might be difficult as in the eyes of the casino, you might just be looking for a refund after a bad streak. In the future you should use more secure practices to avoid falling for such dumb traps. I am not saying that phishing is an easy thing to look out for, but as long as you remain vigilant, maybe set up 2FA and don't hand out your main email for every little thing. And make sure your website address is always correct.

I hope you have better luck in the future!

I dont think it is possible to get refund even if he can provide solid proof, it is completely his own responsibility and the casino is not responsible for such case IMO.
If he gets a refund then it will lead into a big problem for the casino if there are many victims of the phishing like him.
Nothing he can do now except accept the fact that he has lost the money, an expensive lesson learned ofc.

Stake requires email codes in order to withdraw, pretty sure Stake will allow the hacker to withdraw the lump sum in his stake account if the hacker had access to his email not just his stake account. Stake may also think it's not their fault why the hacker got access to his email and casino account. Thus no refund for it. 

But this appears to be an orchestrated post in the forum about Stake. The casino got hacked as well which is not a mere coincidence, stake is targeted by its competitors.

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September 08, 2023, 03:47:45 PM
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Be safe out there and try to avoid suck irresponsible site.
OP, first of all I would like to thank you, who have reminded us about the dangers of betting phishing, which could happen at any time without us realizing it, as you said, that is the importance of this gambling discussion, so that we know what to avoid when gambling in the name of bonuses, winnings and so on, in the end it's all phishing.

As a whole and anyone involved in gambling, phishing attacks may be an easy target for them, to defraud users, because of usernames, data is often leaked and almost average in publications and it will be easy for them/phishing to carry out their actions to hack, hopefully we all here can always be vigilant and avoid these actions, phishing is really bad.

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September 08, 2023, 06:09:28 PM
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I have wise up and checking every link I click on.
Hope this post can help next person looking for answer who gets phished on stake because stake is too busy to explain all this.

It's good that you want to warn people about such attacks, and hopefully, you've become more cautious moving forward. But, I'm not entirely sure what you expect Stake platform to do in this situation. Phishing attacks are incredibly common, possibly one of the most common online threats. I receive phishing emails almost daily, targeting services I've never even used. Given that Stake is a highly popular online gambling platform, it's only logical that it's a prime target for phishing attacks.

Nevertheless, the primary responsibility for protecting yourself falls on you. You mentioned using 2FA, which is good. However, even with 2FA, you should never enter your login credentials on fake websites. My recommendation is to consider using a password manager; It can greatly reduce the risk of falling victim to such situations in the future.

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September 08, 2023, 07:29:24 PM
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It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.

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September 09, 2023, 05:48:19 PM
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Just because of his greedy behavior that allowed him to quickly click on the link without asking questions and ended up being phished by fraudsters and then he blamed the casino, it's funny to hear that, maybe this is a thread that can teach beginners not to carelessly click on any link obtained from Email or Social media, make sure it's genuine and ask questions on live support, I'm sure it won't be a waste of time.
I won't blame him entirely for that hacking incident. Hackers make it so believable that you could fall into that trap too. It's hard to guess what kind of mail he got without the screenshot. But I am sure the hacker copied the real one and made a fake that is identical. I guess I can make a suggestion in order to prevent such a thing. I have used this kind of service on many platforms.

So let me explain:-
As the hacker is logging in from a different device and location, there should be location and device-based login security. If you are logging in from a different device and location, you need to provide a 2FA code or a mail verification code in order to log in to that device. I don't know how much this could affect the privacy of users but I think this will improve the security to a different level. I am not a Stake user so I don't know if it is available or not. If not available then getting it on the platform will help this kind of hacking.

And the most important thing is, the platform can provide security only to an extent. In order to maintain the best security, we need to keep our accounts safe on our own. Don't click on every link you get via email. Verify first.

[I feel sorry for that incident OP. Hope you can resolve the issue. Get help from live support if possible and secure your account ASAP.]
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September 09, 2023, 06:26:25 PM
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It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.
Well, many people have learnt this long time ago, but it's rather unfortunately that op is just learning about this now, although I can not completely blame him, anybody can fall victim to such, because the way this hackers build the clone website, it sometimes takes only very good and 100 percent security consciousnesses to detect that the site is fake, most of the time, the only way to know that the site is a clone is by looking at the site's web address, which will always be different from the web address of the original website ..
Even though most of the time, the difference is always by a letter which look alike, so that people will not discover if not looking with extreme care and concentration..

So as long as we are here online, it is very mandatory for us to always be very careful with clicking links, to avoid being a victim to such a tail.

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September 09, 2023, 06:41:32 PM
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It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.
So so sad indeed most especially in casino where the fund are sent to gamble with and after winning huge amount your reward get diverted to another person being the scammer, The best possible solution to such thing is for individual gamblers to be very careful with links their visit and as a matter of fact always and only use the secured website link may by book marking the site in your browser.
We have to minimize the level at which we log in to our accounts using new devices or browsers, hackers may have installed some malware into those browsers and be able to monitor your activities.

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September 09, 2023, 07:54:37 PM
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I rarely click on promotional emails, but if I need to log in again after clicking the promotional email I will stop the process immediately. New tab, open the right URL (if you are an active user you are probably already logged in), and check the promotional page. Simple as that...

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September 09, 2023, 07:54:59 PM
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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.
Peace .

If you have proof of this, then I think the casino will refund you. But proving that you got phished might be difficult as in the eyes of the casino, you might just be looking for a refund after a bad streak. In the future you should use more secure practices to avoid falling for such dumb traps. I am not saying that phishing is an easy thing to look out for, but as long as you remain vigilant, maybe set up 2FA and don't hand out your main email for every little thing. And make sure your website address is always correct.

I hope you have better luck in the future!

I dont think it is possible to get refund even if he can provide solid proof, it is completely his own responsibility and the casino is not responsible for such case IMO.
If he gets a refund then it will lead into a big problem for the casino if there are many victims of the phishing like him.
Nothing he can do now except accept the fact that he has lost the money, an expensive lesson learned ofc.

Stake requires email codes in order to withdraw, pretty sure Stake will allow the hacker to withdraw the lump sum in his stake account if the hacker had access to his email not just his stake account. Stake may also think it's not their fault why the hacker got access to his email and casino account. Thus no refund for it. 

But this appears to be an orchestrated post in the forum about Stake. The casino got hacked as well which is not a mere coincidence, stake is targeted by its competitors.

We cant really tell or directly be able to point out fingers that the ones behind those hacking is really coming out from their competitors on which we could really that able to say that there are really those capable ones on hacking out a site which they do see that it is really that popular and really having tons of funds inside of it. They would really be normally be finding ways or methods on exploiting it out or seeing or checking out if there would be some holes. This is one of the risks as a business owner which is related to gambling which you should really be that take priority when it comes to security but we know that there's no such thing about 100% security on this world which does basically means that nothing is unhackable.It did really just turns out that there's a solid breach on this one.

In the situation which a certain user have been able to use up his funds or having the access then it does make sense knowing about those exploits. This might be one the case that would really be related to it.
Its true that whenever you do make out some withdrawal on which it does require up some codes or verification for it to succeed which same as mentioned if ever that it was successfull then this simply
shows that the hacker does have the email access as well.

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September 10, 2023, 05:54:13 AM
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It is really sad that someone's funds are stolen. But we should always be careful. Because such emails come to us often. Not only email but other social media we get pm with such links. Now you understand yourself how stupid it is to click on such links. We should learn from this.
If a gambler has been involved in the online casino industry for a long time especially if he is also a crypto user then obviously he already understands phishing links so he rarely tries to enter such links.
But here it seems like the OP was interested in what was being offered so he dared to take a very dangerous action and ended up losing some money.

It's true that those who don't really understand the act of theft from accessing phishing sites must learn from cases like this especially for the OP he must start learning in the future so that he doesn easily believe in things that look suspicious of a scam.

Sometimes someone needs a bitter, detrimental experience in order to learn more about always being careful and thank you to the OP for the experience shared here because it can provide lessons and knowledge for those of us who may not know much about scam sites that share phishing links.

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OP if you're having difficulty of embedding picture on your posts, this thread might help you:
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as relates to the post, there's actually tons of scammer everywhere and that's the sad reality that we have to face. So as a random player, you must also need to diversify your funds at least into three locations and keep your funds and money safe with you.

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September 10, 2023, 03:17:39 PM
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The email looks like was sent from the official stake email account, can you show the complete email address of this one so we all can see whether it is from official stake or fake one.
However I have never heard about loyalty bonus, does stake provide this kind of bonus officially maybe for high rollers only?
I would to see an official response from Stake about this case so it will be clear whether it is real phising or not, without knowing the email address of the sender and without official response from Stake.


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September 10, 2023, 03:59:50 PM
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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.
Peace .

If you have proof of this, then I think the casino will refund you. But proving that you got phished might be difficult as in the eyes of the casino, you might just be looking for a refund after a bad streak. In the future you should use more secure practices to avoid falling for such dumb traps. I am not saying that phishing is an easy thing to look out for, but as long as you remain vigilant, maybe set up 2FA and don't hand out your main email for every little thing. And make sure your website address is always correct.

I hope you have better luck in the future!

I dont think it is possible to get refund even if he can provide solid proof, it is completely his own responsibility and the casino is not responsible for such case IMO.
If he gets a refund then it will lead into a big problem for the casino if there are many victims of the phishing like him.
Nothing he can do now except accept the fact that he has lost the money, an expensive lesson learned ofc.

I don't even also think on why stake will do a refund on cases where their user got phising attack, this is not their obligation so I provably say that this is users fault for not verifying the email they receive. If there's a possible refund then provably they might be a target of another abuse so its good not to take any of it and just warn this user about those people spreading phising links to hack peoples account for sure from this they can atleast lessen up the number of newbie victims of this attacks.

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September 10, 2023, 04:32:35 PM
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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.

But biggest surprise was phishing link received after certain amount reached. Could hacker potentially be scanning wallet and only trying to scam for bigger account?

I do think that when a hacker gets a hold of a certain fund, they will definitely waste NO time in transferring and getting your funds from your wallet. Just to be safe, make sure to transfer your funds into a new account/wallet and report this issue as soon as possible for Stake to take cognizance of your case.

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After loosing funds I was so angry and try every avenue to acknowledge Eddie and their tech support but I havent even gotten 1 reply from them yet.

Still, try reaching out to their customer support service but I doubt that your funds or whatever amount is stolen would be recovered. As such, may this be a learning lesson on your end to NEVER click any random e-mails or links coming from unknown sources. While this experience may be unfortunate, may this teach you on how to be more careful next time.
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September 10, 2023, 09:19:24 PM
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OP if you're having difficulty of embedding picture on your posts, this thread might help you:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297889.0
Thank you for quoting OP's comment and I understand that you are trying to help but can you, please, edit the size of the images to make them smaller? Big images are a pain in the a** for us who have slow Internet connection.
Besides, OP is a newbie so even if he uses the img tags, the images will not show up.

I don't even also think on why stake will do a refund on cases where their user got phising attack, this is not their obligation so I provably say that this is users fault for not verifying the email they receive.

Stake made it clear in their ToS that they won't be liable for such losses. See:

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4.13 We are not liable or responsible for any abuse or misuse of your Stake Account by third parties due to your disclosure, whether intentional, accidental, active or passive, of your login details to any third party.
Besides, if they were to refund phishing victims then how can they know the player is not just lying by pretending his account got hacked?

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September 10, 2023, 09:50:26 PM
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Stake requires email codes in order to withdraw, pretty sure Stake will allow the hacker to withdraw the lump sum in his stake account if the hacker had access to his email not just his stake account. Stake may also think it's not their fault why the hacker got access to his email and casino account. Thus no refund for it. 

But this appears to be an orchestrated post in the forum about Stake. The casino got hacked as well which is not a mere coincidence, stake is targeted by its competitors.

I agree with tou on this,  stake have been the most targeted in recent time and rising crisis that have befall the casino made it more suspicious to see any further attacks as related to any form of hack to be a targeted tool to further afflict more harm to stake in one way or the other.

And looking from ops statement,  one will already know that,  stake is not at fault in this phising attack on ops account,  since if the hacker have access to his email to be able to get the withdrawal code,  it then means that the hack was an insider job.
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I think they need to verify it first before they act or refund you. I doubt if they'll refund you on that unless it's proven because if that bet have won they wouldn't definitely get it on your account. If you've been phished that's definitely not stake''s fault in the first place.

If the link you clicked has gone through and you input your credentials the hacker should have get it. You have been so lucky you probably have good security on your account set or else that would have been wiped out. Again, you're still just speculating and you don't have any proof/s yet if it was really done by Stake itself.
True. You can't just accuse Stake without showing valid proofs and yet you come to warn other bettors to stay away from Stake. You know I've known Stake for long and I know they're reputable enough not to resort into wrong acts that will damage their credibility. After all, what you have are just speculations and maybe false accusations so we cannot agree on your post. Just learn to improve the security of your account by not disclosing your personal details easily, that way you don't get easily scam.

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September 10, 2023, 11:57:47 PM
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The email looks like was sent from the official stake email account, can you show the complete email address of this one so we all can see whether it is from official stake or fake one.
However I have never heard about loyalty bonus, does stake provide this kind of bonus officially maybe for high rollers only?
I would to see an official response from Stake about this case so it will be clear whether it is real phising or not, without knowing the email address of the sender and without official response from Stake.


You can't see the name on the screenshot. You can see only the name until op proves that. You know anyone can use the name of stake to create an email account. Even a scammer can create almost the same email of stake as the scammer has a phishing domain which is difficult to understand by fresher.

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