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October 14, 2023, 10:09:48 PM
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I don’t know what’s really suspicious about it, some user is being targeted for phishing and that’s it. Now the point of wonder is who is at the end of all these phishing mails, whose the jacket here; is it stakes or some rogue officials within its ranks of any (which I don’t want to believe as stakes have proven to be fair and bigger than petty theft) or it’s the work of some out of the box hackers.
Suspicious is that the user has been accused and was online even last active today but the user has had no update on the topic for about months and the user has locked the topic without any update. Why anyone will lock the thread without any update?
You have a very good point here bud, sure the attitude of the user is suspicious.
And answering to what Smartvirus said, there is no way Stake them self will engage in such petty stuff, Like I believe I have said here before, if at all the claim of the user is true, then I personally stand on what i have said before on this thread, and that is that, its likely the handiwork of some rogues in the stake team engaging themselves in sending out such phishing emails to users they have seen to have a nice sum on their stake account.

How much is $10k to $20k us dollars compared to what Stake makes every day as profit, that they should engage in such things as trying to scam their users?.
The point is that,  we should choose between ignoring the ops or continued to present him with contending facts as it exempt stake from the phishing that he accused stake of,  this is very easy to achieve in our own end but I don't know how serious the ops is to stake up a bet with me.

That if he has any genuine problems and complains about stake, and if yes then he should approach the who.
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October 14, 2023, 10:35:07 PM
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I heard the same story in the chatroom just months ago and it's almost the same scenario as yours. He was also attacked by a phishing scheme through e-mail and I am actually shocked that it does happen. The hacker used the monthly bonus event and luckily the gambler was too doubtful about the mail that he received so he asked in the chatroom first before opening it. A good moderator answered him and urged the gambler to check the mail thoroughly and not click any links if it looked fishy. The gambler was honest that he already received his monthly bonus so there's no way he will receive another and the moderator agreed with him because there ain't an update that a 2nd monthly bonus was given.
But do imagine a gambler who badly needs the money? I bet he will click anything. And the surprising part is they really looked like Stake.com's e-mail so guys better be careful especially if you are a high VIP rank, there will be a lot of evil intentions hiding in the shadows that will try to hack you.
That is what makes phishing so dangerous, when you are not expecting anything from a casino, exchange, bank or any institution where you keep some of your money then it is easy to spot the email with the phishing link, but when you are waiting for some communication to happen then it is easy to assume such an email comes from the correct source and click it without thinking about it, just last month I have received several of those emails from scammers trying to get into my bank account, but luckily I have spotted each one of them without any problem.
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October 14, 2023, 11:02:07 PM
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BTC so been playing on stake for 3 years.
Last Sunday my balance went from 8 k to 10k I got phishing mail and I clicked thinking it was legit bonus as I was nearing level up.

I was phished and my funds were gambled on 3 bets.
I was surprised why hacker didn't cashout. May be 2FA.

But biggest surprise was phishing link received after certain amount reached. Could hacker potentially be scanning wallet and only trying to scam for bigger account?

Could they be getting too much success that they just decide to act only after certain amount level is reached.

I wont doubht that because I am not the first one being phished and funds stolen/misused. I see time to time victims and stake does not try to improve its security or they don't care about their players at all.

After loosing funds I was so angry and try every avenue to acknowledge Eddie and their tech support but I havent even gotten 1 reply from them yet.

Just venting and warning other users that stake.com is not safe and more certainly they don't care if their security is poor. They will just say account security is players responsibility.

Be safe out there and try to avoid suck irresponsible site.

Peace .

I think you also have a lack of agreement with the casino experience you claim here in this section. Because you have been playing in that casino for 3 years, don't say that you don't know what these phishing hackers' methods are for their victims like you.

That probably happened because you clicked on a link in the email you used at that casino. Of course, the accountability in that case is really on you and no casino anymore because you are the only one who has access to the email and not the casino gambling platform. You may not have noticed that the link you entered is actually a phishing link that you thought was actually the admin of the casino platform. I hope that will be a lesson for you, and there is nothing we can do but move on.


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October 14, 2023, 11:10:04 PM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.

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October 14, 2023, 11:25:52 PM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.
As long it woudnt be locked by OP then expect that replies and responses would really continue to flow into this thread on which it isnt something new and totally really just that normal for most threads which even if the issue is obviously not that really needed to be discussed about but still responses would really come into flow. So better to ignore such thread and it would be somewhat
pointless on telling op considering that Last Active:   September 19, 2023, 10:58:46 PM based up on profile.

Speaking about phishing then i dont see for someone to have the rights on telling about or putting up the blame into the platform just because someone does have
some access into his account? It is really that totally on users responsibility on keeping his account safe and putting yourself making some inputs on an obvious
phishing link, then who would be on their right minds and having that common sense would be clicking that thing?

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October 16, 2023, 08:47:45 AM
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This is suspicious...another player also got an email while he was playing - see this thread about how a player got phished out of 150k from his account
I do not think it is the real accusation as the op of the mentioned thread was last online today but the topic locked about 6 months ago without any proper announcement by the thread starter. Though there is few posts of the OP but there is no update about the case but locked by the starter. So, obviously think there might have something wrong.

I actually contacted the OP of that thread and asked him why he has closed it. He said because there was no hope and that he was giving up. I believe that he thought there was no point arguing because he thought it was his fault. It's common for phishing victims to feel that way as it is one of the silliest ways to lose coins.

I am not sure what the rules are surrounding PM's however you can contact him and ask him, he will tell you the same as he told me.

This is suspicious...another player also got an email while he was playing - see this thread about how a player got phished out of 150k from his account
I don’t know what’s really suspicious about it, some user is being targeted for phishing and that’s it. Now the point of wonder is who is at the end of all these phishing mails, whose the jacket here; is it stakes or some rogue officials within its ranks of any (which I don’t want to believe as stakes have proven to be fair and bigger than petty theft) or it’s the work of some out of the box hackers.

The fact that not just one user is receiving this mails doesn’t narrow things down to stakes but, can go down to vindicate them none the less.
Hackers typically use methods of bulk sms which is mails in this case to reach out to a good number of users. Looking for potential victims in numbers. The chances of success is in the numbers as, you can likely have a not well informed or secured user amongst them.

Best course go solution has always been, not having to respond.

The timing is what puts Stake into the crosshairs. How is it that when a player has a large balance (like this scenario and the other) they all of a sudden get sophisticated-enough emails that lead to them being phished? It could happen at any other time, but instead it happens when they have a balance. That's too coincidental...

Also, how are these users emails being given to the scammers?

I think this is either a cybersecurity matter where both users are compromised enough to be sent a phishing email but not enough for the hacker to siphon the coins themselves, or stake is somehow involved.

It would not surprise me given how many other accusations there are against stake for very high amounts as of recent.
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October 20, 2023, 11:48:09 PM
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I actually contacted the OP of that thread and asked him why he has closed it. He said because there was no hope and that he was giving up. I believe that he thought there was no point arguing because he thought it was his fault. It's common for phishing victims to feel that way as it is one of the silliest ways to lose coins.
It might be correct that the phishing hack had occurred for the fault of the thread creator but the user had not locked the thread I think it is because the has no idea about how to lock the thread or forgot to lock the thread.
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October 21, 2023, 01:53:38 AM
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I heard the same story in the chatroom just months ago and it's almost the same scenario as yours. He was also attacked by a phishing scheme through e-mail and I am actually shocked that it does happen. The hacker used the monthly bonus event and luckily the gambler was too doubtful about the mail that he received so he asked in the chatroom first before opening it. A good moderator answered him and urged the gambler to check the mail thoroughly and not click any links if it looked fishy. The gambler was honest that he already received his monthly bonus so there's no way he will receive another and the moderator agreed with him because there ain't an update that a 2nd monthly bonus was given.
But do imagine a gambler who badly needs the money? I bet he will click anything. And the surprising part is they really looked like Stake.com's e-mail so guys better be careful especially if you are a high VIP rank, there will be a lot of evil intentions hiding in the shadows that will try to hack you.
That is what makes phishing so dangerous, when you are not expecting anything from a casino, exchange, bank or any institution where you keep some of your money then it is easy to spot the email with the phishing link, but when you are waiting for some communication to happen then it is easy to assume such an email comes from the correct source and click it without thinking about it, just last month I have received several of those emails from scammers trying to get into my bank account, but luckily I have spotted each one of them without any problem.
Phishing is always dangerous and hacker has lot of ability to be able to hack either by sending a fake email with link that has been compromised by virus and can make what you have they track and then they take all the assets you have.
For this reason we must always be careful when we receive an email that may look suspicious and if the email is in the name of a gambling site then it is better to contact support at the gambling site to ask about any developments in the casino whether the email message sent to the customer is really real.
Even though some people think this is waste of time it will at least be way to anticipate hacking using phishing links.

Just as if you receive several fake emails there must be some differences that can make you know that the message has the potential to be hacked.
It natural that nowadays there are lots of actions like this because there are so many crypto users and beginner gamblers and the majority of beginners like this don't have much experience so it easier to become victim.

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October 21, 2023, 04:03:33 AM
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I actually contacted the OP of that thread and asked him why he has closed it. He said because there was no hope and that he was giving up. I believe that he thought there was no point arguing because he thought it was his fault. It's common for phishing victims to feel that way as it is one of the silliest ways to lose coins.
It might be correct that the phishing hack had occurred for the fault of the thread creator but the user had not locked the thread I think it is because the has no idea about how to lock the thread or forgot to lock the thread.
Well, Op was last active here on September 19th, that is more than a month ago, this actually gives some concerns regarding the credibility of OPs claim that his stake account was phished and he lost the amount he claimed he lost.
If i were asked, I would say that there are two things his absence here is revealing to us.
The is first is, it's either the op is so damn rich that the money he claimed he lost on stake is nothing to him, so it's very easy for him to forget about it and move on with his life.
And the second is, maybe the phishing that the op is claiming happened never did happen, and the claim here about it happening is nothing but probably a way to try to get back at stake for whatever reason, to make them lose customers.

Remember op didn't share any evidence to proof that his account was phished, and now, he's not been here for over a month now, so maybe nothing really happened.

And talking about locking the thread, we can all report it to the mod and ask them to lock it, because i do not think op is coming back anytime soon.

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October 21, 2023, 10:27:12 AM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.

Well, I am glad he unlocked the thread again, because a new Phishing attack was launched in the same time that the post monthly was given out. These attacks are timed perfectly to trick people, when something are officially dropped by Stake. (Stake has nothing to do with this, but the scammers jump on the opportunity to confuse people, when there are other bonuses being dropped)  Angry

So, reminding people regularly about these Phishing attacks are a good idea... and it should be done more often. We need some "White hat" hacker groups to go after these scammers, so that they are held responsible for their actions.

 

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October 21, 2023, 10:35:52 AM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.

Well, I am glad he unlocked the thread again, because a new Phishing attack was launched in the same time that the post monthly was given out. These attacks are timed perfectly to trick people, when something are officially dropped by Stake. (Stake has nothing to do with this, but the scammers jump on the opportunity to confuse people, when there are other bonuses being dropped)  Angry

So, reminding people regularly about these Phishing attacks are a good idea... and it should be done more often. We need some "White hat" hacker groups to go after these scammers, so that they are held responsible for their actions.

 

That is the best that has to be done as in Cybersecurity there is no stronger weapon as user awareness,I am adding here to always check if the email is from the official Stake email before rushing to click any link as the first step to achieve better security.Whoever uses Google or Gmail as an email service they have it really easy as Stake when it comes to monthly bonuses usually that email filters in the Promotions tab,nevertheless I always double check before clicking anything suspicious and I do not rush.

The White hat hacker groups I think is a good idea but difficult to implement as White hat hackers are after finding bugs for big companies so unless they are hired specifically by a company it will be difficult to make them go after these scammers.

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October 21, 2023, 11:43:47 AM
 #152

Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.

Well, I am glad he unlocked the thread again, because a new Phishing attack was launched in the same time that the post monthly was given out. These attacks are timed perfectly to trick people, when something are officially dropped by Stake. (Stake has nothing to do with this, but the scammers jump on the opportunity to confuse people, when there are other bonuses being dropped)  Angry

So, reminding people regularly about these Phishing attacks are a good idea... and it should be done more often. We need some "White hat" hacker groups to go after these scammers, so that they are held responsible for their actions.

 

That is the best that has to be done as in Cybersecurity there is no stronger weapon as user awareness,I am adding here to always check if the email is from the official Stake email before rushing to click any link as the first step to achieve better security.Whoever uses Google or Gmail as an email service they have it really easy as Stake when it comes to monthly bonuses usually that email filters in the Promotions tab,nevertheless I always double check before clicking anything suspicious and I do not rush.

The White hat hacker groups I think is a good idea but difficult to implement as White hat hackers are after finding bugs for big companies so unless they are hired specifically by a company it will be difficult to make them go after these scammers.
User awareness would really be your best weapon or would really be that security because you could really be able to assess yourself on the right decisions you would really be needing to do whether its risky or not.
Getting phished just because you had visited out some links because of some random clicks? That do really shows on how reckless you are or simply you are just that dumb? Well, there are really moments or times
on which we do really miss out on doing the right thing due to lack of experience or awareness but not really that 100% because just like been said that on the time that you would really be that
be able to do the right thing or you are really that sensible or wary about on the things around been happening then you cant really be that easily get phished.

On situations like this then it is really that mostly users fault or mistake and it doesnt really have no sense that you would really be pointing out your fingers into a site or company just because you have just get phished?
You would really be just making yourself look like a clown if you do really point out and making a platform been blamed on such situation.
security things would really be always depending or would really be that according on how you do set things up. If you are careless then expect for these situations
to happen into you.

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October 21, 2023, 12:27:06 PM
 #153

Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.
True. It should be changed to a warning about phishing schemes or beware of phishing through e-mails. This ain't a new case and it has been happening not only in the online gambling industry but also in different popular exchanges. Somehow these hackers got a hand of our e-mail addresses and they are sending messages to it. I think there's a website where we can know if our address is in jeopardy of this phishing or not, somehow they can know it is stained by bad dirt.
Stake.com has nothing to do with this, the same with the popular exchanges that also have nothing to do with e-mail that came from a different end. That's why we have to be careful at opening links either from e-mails or just websites that offer something that is too good to be true.
Just to stretch this type of problem, most of these phishing schemes are using the bonuses which means they also know the date and time on when those bonuses will be sent, so we have to be really careful.

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October 21, 2023, 02:16:54 PM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.
The perpetrator didn't get anything out of it because the perpetrator just used the account to gamble so I don't know how they can report it as getting scammed but OP did definitely become a victim of a phishing attack and a much worse one because from what I've read, it looks like OP's attacker had control over his account remotely which is scary because that can mean that the hacker can probably access private files. I would probably be careful about my wording when it comes to this topic not deserving such attention, you're right that Stake doesn't have anything to do with it but I think that since they're the platform involved, maybe they can offer some help?

And to OP, I think that it's in your best interest to do this kind of post in Scam Accusations board and follow the format on reporting a scam or the incident and try to provide the screenshots that might help you regain that money if that can ever be a possibility.
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October 21, 2023, 09:59:30 PM
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Sorry guys but I don't know what you are still arguing about! It's obvious that OP has been scammed but it appeared that stake has nothing to do with this scam. What are you still arguing about?
I'm not going to read the replies on the past eight pages but am sure this topic doesn't deserve such attention
. OP should change the topic's title to make it more appropriate as stake has nothing to do with whatever happened to him.
The perpetrator didn't get anything out of it because the perpetrator just used the account to gamble so I don't know how they can report it as getting scammed but OP did definitely become a victim of a phishing attack and a much worse one because from what I've read, it looks like OP's attacker had control over his account remotely which is scary because that can mean that the hacker can probably access private files. I would probably be careful about my wording when it comes to this topic not deserving such attention, you're right that Stake doesn't have anything to do with it but I think that since they're the platform involved, maybe they can offer some help?

And to OP, I think that it's in your best interest to do this kind of post in Scam Accusations board and follow the format on reporting a scam or the incident and try to provide the screenshots that might help you regain that money if that can ever be a possibility.
How it did become to fit out on scam accusation? He had been phished and its not on the platform itself about having that mistake because its clear that its users mistake and error on why he had
let someone do able to access his account. Good thing that the hacker didnt able to get the cash or balance because of 2fa which is a good call but sadly the amount had been used on making up
some bet and ended up on a loss which it is really that something that frustration would really be extreme level. There's no way that you could really be having the fight on blaming out Stake for this,not because im that advertising their signature but even on other platforms on the time that there's someone who do have access into your account just because you have been phished
then its actually your own fault and blaming out the platform could lead up you nowhere.

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How it did become to fit out on scam accusation? He had been phished and its not on the platform itself about having that mistake because its clear that its users mistake and error on why he had
let someone do able to access his account. Good thing that the hacker didnt able to get the cash or balance because of 2fa which is a good call but sadly the amount had been used on making up
some bet and ended up on a loss which it is really that something that frustration would really be extreme level. There's no way that you could really be having the fight on blaming out Stake for this, not because im that advertising their signature but even on other platforms on the time that there's someone who does have access to your account just because you have been phished
then its actually your fault and blaming out the platform could lead up you nowhere.
Looking at the whole situation,  this only calls for more security for us as individuals,  this is because most times we tend to make some form of mistakes that end up affecting us in a negative direction,  e.g phishing some Sometimes we expose our devices to malware that may have seat in our device for long and haven't monitor your activities,  to the point of having access to your various log in detail of you have them stored on the device.

But at. At some point,  if you have a top feature or 2FA security feature in place in the account,  you have some level of security for your funds if there is any possible attack on the network.
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October 22, 2023, 01:51:41 AM
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It's not about logging out all the sessions on your device but it's about how did the hacker taken your login details. And from there, it's basically you have done something like fallen for a fake website that's just the same as stake or a promo where the offer is gullible and asked for your login details.

This is sad in all forms and you've lost money from there. Can't even blame you because you're the victim on this one and these hackers will do every social reengineering for their specific targets like you.

Sad world we live in.
But hope karma works in both ways.

Thanks for responses all.
Sad indeed but I wish your recovery from this incident.

Yes Op is the victim here but I think that he is being phished so he must be chill and not arguing the stake support cause for sure the casino has working in it just gave them time for sure they can solve that problem. The more Op arguing the support team then there's a high chance that they will hold that issue.
That's the reason why everyone of us must be vigilant cause nowadys there are many phishing link that we must not click cause once we go on that link  and login our personal details then they will got all of that and there's a chance that our funds will lost.

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How it did become to fit out on scam accusation? He had been phished and its not on the platform itself about having that mistake because its clear that its users mistake and error on why he had let someone do able to access his account.
I don't know dude but the fact that you've answered that OP became the victim of phishing speaks for why this should be on Scam Accusations board, don't the phishing websites are also posted there too? Plus that's where you find the cautionary tales of what not to do and what to do in case you encounter a scam right and not this board, I think it's a common sense to put it there.
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How it did become to fit out on scam accusation? He had been phished and its not on the platform itself about having that mistake because its clear that its users mistake and error on why he had let someone do able to access his account.
I don't know dude but the fact that you've answered that OP became the victim of phishing speaks for why this should be on Scam Accusations board, don't the phishing websites are also posted there too? Plus that's where you find the cautionary tales of what not to do and what to do in case you encounter a scam right and not this board, I think it's a common sense to put it there.
On where he should really be putting up  some scam accusation or pointing out his finger? To the given link? I wouldn't really be that believing that scam accusations board would really be relevant
but rather it would be in this board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182222.0 which i do see for it to be that having sense to be posted up on there specially on
suspicious links and not on scam accusations.Just like been said that i dont see that Stake should really be blamed since its users fault.

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Looking at the whole situation,  this only calls for more security for us as individuals,  this is because most times we tend to make some form of mistakes that end up affecting us in a negative direction,  e.g phishing some Sometimes we expose our devices to malware that may have seat in our device for long and haven't monitor your activities,  to the point of having access to your various log in detail of you have them stored on the device.

But at. At some point,  if you have a top feature or 2FA security feature in place in the account,  you have some level of security for your funds if there is any possible attack on the network.
This is why 2fa is recommended, it wasnt been created for nothing.You would really be only considering its relevance or importance on the time that you would be losing
money on which you shouldnt have done that earlier.Always be cautious about on the probabilities that could really happen.

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This is why 2fa is recommended, it wasnt been created for nothing.You would really be only considering its relevance or importance on the time that you would be losing
money on which you shouldnt have done that earlier.Always be cautious about on the probabilities that could really happen.
2fa security gives you another level of security that hackers may find hard to break through if it is in place on an account,  although sometime one of the major attacks that affect gamblers account most comes from either malware that have stayed for long in the gambler device and also have gotten access to so many things on the device such as even having access to the 2FA security feature and apps on the phone and he can easily have them reinstall on another third parties device that will help the gain access anytime their are ready to take action against the account owner by stealing the money in the account.

This have been one of the most popular attack process that have been noticed lately and even before now that phishing attacks discussions is gainiing wide attention and many people are becoming concern with that security risks.
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