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Title: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: binimal on September 13, 2023, 03:14:04 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: mk4 on September 13, 2023, 04:01:53 AM
Affiliates and YouTubing is totally fine! Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue. As long as you do affiliate marketing and YouTubing in a moral and ethical manner.

As for pump and dumpers and people doing fake TA, fuck them.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 13, 2023, 04:47:20 AM
Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos?

Do you think they do it themselves? They hire someone to edit and upload them for them, just like famous people have people who run their social networks.

Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…?

And why shouldn't they? This income is even better because it is more passive than trading income. Sometimes with affiliates, when you refer them to a site, they give you a percentage of sales for life. Few incomes are better than that.

Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue.

It's just like that.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on September 13, 2023, 04:55:00 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Let me try my best to answer all these questions in full.

There are traders who are social media influencers, and there are some who only have the idea but use their creative reportage skills for social media influencing. Either way, it's irrelevant, what is relevant is what they are telling you. Are they true and genuine, and are what they share helpful? If yes, it's then a win-win for both parties. I learned all that I know in trading online (through the websites and email subscriptions) and I'm proud of what I've become today in trading.

For the second part, even if you are earning in trading, they might want to earn more, so sharing through social media doesn't matter and can't absolutely define them. Everyone wants more money unless we are lazy or don't value money much.

Nonetheless, some of them are only making money from social media but using their idea of trading to get this money without being profitable in trading themselves.



Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Husires on September 13, 2023, 05:08:03 AM
People are looking for fame or like to create content, but it is easy to know if the YouTuber likes that or is a paid text. Paid texts and advertisements make the YouTuber’s content very variable. Every day he will tell you to invest in something new and completely different from the past because he is looking for profit, and here you should. Stay away. The YouTuber who preaches on creating content and sharing the entire experience, whether good or bad, and with all the circumstances it went through, is the one who makes affiliate money as if it were additional money, and if it does not exist, it will continue to work. It is just like those who have a lot of Bitcoin and yet they are present in the forum.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Text on September 13, 2023, 06:26:21 AM
There are many different reasons why celebrities or famous personalities endorse or promote a crypto product, even if it is already profitable through trading. One of the top reasons that comes to mind is money or another source of income – after all, who wouldn't want that? Yes, we often have questions or sometimes wonder about their motives, but as an audience, it's up to us whether we buy into what they're offering. Perhaps there are a few cases where, even if they haven't tried using the crypto product or they genuinely don't like that product, they'll still do it for the money. It's ultimately your decision as an audience whether you'll be swayed or believe them. But not everyone is like that; some are genuine and maybe even passionate about creating content, so let's not be quick to judge them.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: rat03gopoh on September 13, 2023, 06:50:24 AM
In the crypto space, the term "DYOR" is known, meaning that every user is required to have at least a basic knowledge of how to research a project independently. You can determine which influencers are worth following within reasonable limits. Some influencers are not that bad, they really explain things according to reality.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 13, 2023, 07:15:47 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Well, I understand your suspicion, and I will say that it is totally valid for I too have once or twice asked the same question, until I meet some traders who are also YouTubers and we become friends ..

Some (note the keyword "some", not all ) are actually making money from trading, and you know what they say about diversification, or having multiple streams of income, they are also into YouTube streams and affiliate marketing as a way to earn more money.

And can I tell you something, most of this guy's even earn more money from YouTube and affiliate marketing much more than they earn from trading, but still , they are into trading because for some, it's a passion, something they love doing , while for some others, they are into trading to gain the experience they need to win subscribers to their channel .


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: bitbollo on September 13, 2023, 07:18:04 AM
like any other "influencer" I think it's some one that trying to avoid fatigue and have a classic job :)
And of course I completely will not trust and have 0 interest in any product advertised.
These are the "snake oil" seller of third millenium, one of the worst species around here :(

moreover, what are the crypto product that deserve attention and are not just a pump&dump or just a clone of anything or a speculative project? ::)


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on September 13, 2023, 07:46:08 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
If you have one source of income, you will avoid to join other? crypto trading and affiliate money are different thing and both has own benefits. Trading is profitable but you know that no one know which side market will goes. Trading will not gives you guaranteed profit and no Youtubers claimed that so far. Most of the new projects are just advertising but if we see the basic learning then I think it's not bad to learn from these influencers.
Youtube videos earning is without risk while trading you can loss also. I agree that many new influencers are creating video on trading course just for affiliate but there are still big Youtubers we can trust on them. Their videos consist so many valuable knowledge about cryoto market news and about some specific tokens. If i see youtubers pumping a product, I will do my own research because I have brain, No Youtubers force me to buy, I will choose my self either the coin influencers pumping has potential to give me profit or just advertising.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: hugeblack on September 13, 2023, 08:26:34 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos?
Not in defense of them, but why do rich people continue to work, why Mark Zuckerberg is still working, or why Elon Musk does this? They love what they do and want to achieve higher goals, whether it be a million dollars for one ad, a billion views, or millions of new followers. What is unacceptable is It promotes fraud, Ponzi schemes, pump/dump coins, and all forms of digital scam. Some of these methods violate the rules and laws of YouTube, and here such videos must be reported, while others deserve to be canceled and advised to stop watching these videos and clarify the facts.

Investment is based on planning and analysis and not listening to the opinions of experts, no matter how honest they are.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Kasabus on September 13, 2023, 08:59:09 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Let’s just say that some traders are not satisfied with their profits through trading, and if there’s another way to increase their profits is being a YouTuber or a crypto influencer that attract and convince people to engage in crypto trading. If they succeed, it means more profits will enter into their account, and if they end up failing, surely they will not stop there but continue to create more inspiring videos that will eventually influence the viewers until they decide to enter trading and expect bigger profits.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Japinat on September 13, 2023, 10:05:37 AM
Being a crypto affiliate or an influencer is not actually bad, it gets only bad when you want to influence your audience with wrong information so you can achieve your own goal. However, not all crypto influencers are desperate enough to feed people with lies so that they can convince them to believe in them. Some are doing their best to show to the people the reality about trading and let them understand about it.

Personally, I think the reason why traders still trying hard to be successful on YouTubing or crypto affiliating it’s because they want to maximize their potentials as a successful trader. Aside from the fact that they are making decent income from YouTubing or being a crypto influencer, there’s also high chances that they can also bring some big positive changes into other people’s lives. That is, if those people follow the advices from reputable traders.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: jeraldskie11 on September 13, 2023, 12:57:28 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Who says that all the influencers are profitable traders? Most of them are just relying their income from YouTube ads, and they don't actually know how to trade. Some of them are just good at editing a replay that's why their videos are attractive to people especially to beginners.

Incase you didn't know, you can do a replay in tradingview. So if ever someone show their trades using that way, they should provide PnL or winning trades to make sure that they are not fraud.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Lida93 on September 13, 2023, 01:01:51 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
This is a good question, but you see, money is never enough to get. You got to explore every available lucrative means to amass it and it's put in one word- diversification.

Although not all these crypto affiliates or influencers knows what they are doing, they are in themselves not good at trading, they are just selling shit all for the money  and that's why you need to be prudent which influencer or affiliate trader we follow cause most of those trading videos online are cut-and-join videos.

But there are a few successful professional crypto traders that are making profits with trading, and in their humanity they feel a need to share their knowledge and strategies with interested persons and their motive is to share their knowledge about crypto trading and not basically the need to make money through those YouTube videos .


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: libert19 on September 13, 2023, 01:18:03 PM
Probably to have multiple sources of income, affiliates is also one of best ways to make passive income. As long as they do not promote ponzis/scams I have no problem with them. I mean, signature campaigns are similar, lol.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on September 13, 2023, 02:14:28 PM
Some satisfactions doesn't only come by making profits, there are times where an individual want to do things that way more than money and gou tend to think, what the heck is wrong with them, cause they already got all the money.


The answer to that is not far-fetched from the overall view of the public about the product they are influencing for, If it is of benefit to the viewers that means they did the video with the intent to impart knowledge and give out advice, but if they do that with the sole intend lf cashing out while leading of herr into loses that means they only care about their pocket.


But the most important thing is to do your own findings to ascertain whether or not you are on the right track, and not being carried away by the activities of those influencers.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: binimal on September 13, 2023, 02:39:22 PM
First of all, thanks everyone for their answers and opinions, I starting out my Bitcoin journey and I learn a lot from discussions like this.
So, some clarifications and a couple of extra questions...  ;D

I get the "Why not?" part of having both revenues... but my point was that IF a Trader is also a Youtuber (affiliate) then:

- Or he IS NOT a Highly Successful Trader, or at least not successful enough so that he values the "extra income" from being an affiliate.
- Or he IS Passionate about Bitcoin (not a Highly Successful in Trading or not even a trader at all) and wants to spread the word, but still in need for an extra buck.
- Or he is a Highly Successful Trader AND Passionate about Bitcoin, but in this case an affiliate link would make no sense.

Just as illustrative (and rather grotesque) examples of my point: I do not see Michael Saylor "selling" me an affiliate link, nor Ricardo Salinas. Of course they are extreme cases, already not worried about making a buck even before Satoshi's white paper, but you get my point... Should I prefer "influencers" that do not need the extra buck? (In this case I will be restricted to millionaires with their millionaires agenda, but detached from the affiliate noise)... Is this a cleaner solution to go through the noise? Do you have anyone that consistently shares good stuff to recommend (people not companies)?

An example that comes to mind would be Aaron Bennett who offers a great informative service, and still cares for the extra affiliate money. Which is totally fine for me.
I do not have anything against affiliates (I am -and want to believe- an honest affiliate myself in another sector), just trying to pick the voices I pay attention to... and the online Bitcoin and general crypto world is quite noisy for someone entering the space.

So, thanks everybody for their replies and opinions! I keep learning!

Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Let me try my best to answer all these questions in full.

There are traders who are social media influencers, and there are some who only have the idea but use their creative reportage skills for social media influencing. Either way, it's irrelevant, what is relevant is what they are telling you. Are they true and genuine, and are what they share helpful? If yes, it's then a win-win for both parties. I learned all that I know in trading online (through the websites and email subscriptions) and I'm proud of what I've become today in trading.

For the second part, even if you are earning in trading, they might want to earn more, so sharing through social media doesn't matter and can't absolutely define them. Everyone wants more money unless we are lazy or don't value money much.

Nonetheless, some of them are only making money from social media but using their idea of trading to get this money without being profitable in trading themselves.




Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Faisal2202 on September 13, 2023, 03:47:48 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos?
The answer to your question is so easy, those YouTubers might not be earning that much money from their trading portfolio while they might be earning more by promoting some websites, or any product related to the crypto industry directly on their YT videos. The process of promoting them is easy and that easy process will make them a lot of money too. Then why they do not avail of this opportunity? I mean, they have to do all the analysis at the end and after getting benefit from that analysis they will do what? nothing, which Means their analysis is waste now. But after getting benefits from the analysis of him, he can share it with his community maybe in return for some paid membership.

Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Yes, you should definitely run from them, because most of the content creators do not really care about the money of their community or followers. All they care about the money they are going to make by promoting or pumping some product. In such conditions, never fell for FOMO and be prepare to control yourselves. The best practise I have is, I simple ignore most of them because most of the Influencers do not really share such pumping signals frequently


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Cookdata on September 13, 2023, 04:00:32 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

I can use Guy Crypto YouTube channel as an example of someone that do crypto affiliation, from the ending description of his videos, you will see his Binance and other exchange referral links for the bonus but influencing people to buy is far below his career, he doesn't do that but that guy will give you good crypto educational content for free. There is no YouTube currently that does reviews like that guy and he will warn from the beginning that they are only educational content and not should be used as financial decisions.

I don't see anything wrong in affiliate but you see influencers, they are the reason why we are where we are today, they deceive a lot of investors in to buying scam projects, they bought most of these coins when the prices were lower and shill to their fans and then sell when everything were at the top. There were lot of drama after FTX exit scam that went hard on everyone, some of them paid chain analysis to see how they rugged pull and they were draging each other. The trust is lost and most fans are no longer loyal after the incidence and I doubt if altcoins are going to grow like before as we had in the past.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Bananington on September 13, 2023, 04:52:00 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Some  may actually be making money from other activities like even trading, but have just decided to add the money they can get from becoming affiliates and influencers to what they are already making. Long time influencers and people who are good with online marketing do not see it as so much of a difficult task to create, edit and upload videos. To these people, this is just a regular activity that they have taken time to master hence the ease with which they can do it.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 13, 2023, 05:26:46 PM
Affiliates and YouTubing is totally fine! Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue. As long as you do affiliate marketing and YouTubing in a moral and ethical manner.

As for pump and dumpers and people doing fake TA, fuck them.
The more the merrier, right! This is what we do really have in mind on which if people do able to earn from their trades then why not really be making out some videos and trying out to show up to people about your trades which it could really be generating even more income for you or simply affiliating on which we know that it isnt really that always that those people are the bad guys or simply just that pretending.
Trading results cant really be that faked out and if people would be seeing that you are making some good trade positions or simply just been that profitable then it would really be that an additional income for you.

If you do find these influencers to be that fooling people then you do always have the will whether you should be staying or avoiding them or you would be simply be seeing on what they are showing.
It all matters to you and you do have that self will and control on whatever actions that you would really be tending to do so. It is really just that a matter of choice on which you do seem
which is right for you or not.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on September 13, 2023, 05:45:36 PM
If you have one source of income, you will avoid to join other? crypto trading and affiliate money are different thing and both has own benefits. Trading is profitable but you know that no one know which side market will goes. Trading will not gives you guaranteed profit and no Youtubers claimed that so far. Most of the new projects are just advertising but if we see the basic learning then I think it's not bad to learn from these influencers.
Youtube videos earning is without risk while trading you can loss also. I agree that many new influencers are creating video on trading course just for affiliate but there are still big Youtubers we can trust on them. Their videos consist so many valuable knowledge about cryoto market news and about some specific tokens. If i see youtubers pumping a product, I will do my own research because I have brain, No Youtubers force me to buy, I will choose my self either the coin influencers pumping has potential to give me profit or just advertising.
You are right, people of the current generation have become entrepreneurs and have rich mind sets. They know that one can not survive only on one job, and that's why they are trading. But as you mentioned trading can not only benefit you. Because of its high volatility factor. But there is another factor that, the money is not continuous from trading. Traders have fallen to a lot of manipulations and lost a lot of money too. And there is no bad in starting another business while you have the free time.

Those who have an optimistic mindset, they always want to be a part of something, that could earn them free money. And we all know that trading is not full-time work, but of course for those who are new. New people have to spend way more time making analyses while the experts and the ones having access to resources do have not to spend that much time. So, they left with some spare time. And in that spare time, many try to open a channel where they can sell their signals, while others start their own YouTube channel before opening any VIP channel. Because YT is the only way from where they could earn more money and exposure to the audience too.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: terrific on September 13, 2023, 07:15:12 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
It's because that's it, you're correct with what you're thinking that they're all into commissions and that's why they just create contents for the sake of affiliate commission.
They'll just say that they're extracting every potential source of income but don't believe them, if they are a profitable trader, they don't have to do that.
But that's it, they are content creators and every source of income as they say will be taken into account but they're not really good traders at all. Maybe some but the majority of them are just hiding in the curtains of being a real trader but no doubt, they're good marketers.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Distinctin on September 13, 2023, 09:58:42 PM
Well, some are here not to take advantage of the people but to really help those people who might have the potentials to be successful in trading. However, I guess majority are still trying to convince people and invest on their trading signals or whatsoever and assuring them that they will be highly profitable in the future. That is pure scamming, telling people some lies and these innocent people are still expecting to be in profits regardless if they don’t have the knowledge and skills to trade successfully.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Rengga Jati on September 13, 2023, 10:03:54 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
To be honest, crypto affiliates and influencers can be a part that plays a role in the development of the crypto world. This will make crypto increasingly famous in the world. however, once again. Also known as affiliates and influencers. They will usually only care about what they are promoting because they are making money from it.

So, don't trust them 100%. Moreover, they will usually only give very good reviews for the projects they promote, so that more people will join the project. Currently there are probably a lot of crypto influencers in all parts of the world. However, all or most of them may be the same, namely that they mostly only care about their pay, without caring about what they are promoting and they usually won't think long about the effect on investors who are attracted by their promotions. Although maybe not all affiliates are like that, perhaps most are.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: joniboini on September 14, 2023, 12:58:55 AM
However, all or most of them may be the same, namely that they mostly only care about their pay, without caring about what they are promoting and they usually won't think long about the effect on investors who are attracted by their promotions.
One of the things that surprised me the most is how long it takes for someone like Bitboy to get sued or get his karma after promoting so many scams in the past. I don't know if people are just that gullible, or if the cost to make them responsible is too great. I guess reputation is the last thing that matters to them, especially if they can make millions and pay a fraction of it to defend their case in court.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 14, 2023, 02:56:27 AM
Another way they earn money meaning they are just profiting small in trading and they need another form of income either on their videos or from sponsors. Just imagine you trade but you are earning more by making videos so what will you do? For sure do videos and the content is about trading even if you are just winning a couple of trades just to make content.
 
There is nothing wrong with those kinds of influencers as long as they don't give financial advice or create scam investments. This is really normal right now with all of us wanting to be YouTube stars.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 14, 2023, 03:59:07 AM
Affiliates and YouTubing is totally fine! Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue. As long as you do affiliate marketing and YouTubing in a moral and ethical manner.

As for pump and dumpers and people doing fake TA, fuck them.
True! Most problems I encounter are the way they shill some altcoins, it's because they are being paid by these random shitcoins just to shill it from their social media, youtube channels, etc.
And some worst influencers are not disclosing if the one that they are talking is sponsored or paid. Some are also telling that it's their own pick.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: famososMuertos on September 14, 2023, 04:19:11 AM
Indeed there are scammers, but it is not the average, they make money with their followers or referrals, it is that simple, in fact, perhaps I do not follow any Influencers in the commercial environment but the second most successful in the history of poker has a channel of Youtube and its earnings exceed $40,000,000 ( poker) and the same question fits, an easy answer, money, there are interesting additional earnings. In fact, what is incredible is seeing it offer bonuses for subscribing to a certain platform.

In any case, it is a question that surely comes into question for you, because extra money for you does not count if you have a good income, anyway, another social question that does not concern directly into the bitcoin discussion itself.( board)


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Ahli38 on September 14, 2023, 05:18:29 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

In reality, not all influencers are truly reliable traders. That's why they sometimes seem to be much more serious about making profits from YouTube and the like. But that doesn't mean they are fraudsters. It's just that we shouldn't completely trust them. And another reality is that sometimes many reliable traders actually started out as content creators. So they combine the two. And I think it's quite a good thing to have 2 sources of income at once.

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a video made by a crypto influencer. I used to watch them but that was a long time ago. The reality is that when we are truly a crypto trader then we are always much busier focused on our trading. And we are also busy looking for fundamental information that is useful for our trading.

But it is possible that the influencers who create video content on YouTube are also professional traders. It's just that when they get a lot of viewers or followers, I also know that income from YouTube is actually higher. And the process of making videos actually doesn't make us too stressed. And will not be afraid of experiencing losses. That's why there may be many traders who actually change professions to become affiliates or YouTubers. Because they know that even though trading in crypto is also profitable, there are also big risks that they have to face. And when they have found a better way to make money with less risk, namely by creating YouTube video content by sharing their trading skills, then I think it makes a lot more sense. Maybe I should also start learning to make videos and become a content creator  ;D


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: benalexis12 on September 14, 2023, 12:25:13 PM
Well, there is nothing wrong with that; being an influencer on YouTube is an advantage if you have a lot of subscribers. So the crypto affiliate marketing method is only effective if you have a large number of followers. But for unknown influencers who have few subscribers, I don't think that will be an effective method. Then one more thing: my attention to other influencers on YouTube is that most of them just pretend to be trading experts, but what they say is just basic and sometimes even wrong about their other analysis trading tools.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: justdimin on September 14, 2023, 05:36:59 PM
Being a crypto affiliate or an influencer is not actually bad, it gets only bad when you want to influence your audience with wrong information so you can achieve your own goal. However, not all crypto influencers are desperate enough to feed people with lies so that they can convince them to believe in them. Some are doing their best to show to the people the reality about trading and let them understand about it.

Personally, I think the reason why traders still trying hard to be successful on YouTubing or crypto affiliating it’s because they want to maximize their potentials as a successful trader. Aside from the fact that they are making decent income from YouTubing or being a crypto influencer, there’s also high chances that they can also bring some big positive changes into other people’s lives. That is, if those people follow the advices from reputable traders.
It is almost all of them, that is why it's an issue. I am not saying that all influencers are bad, but most of them promote stuff for money and they do not care if anyone from their followers lose money because of it as long as they end up making profit. Obviously they would prefer if their followers make a profit as well, there is an incentive to make your followers make a profit, that means they will follow you even more and trade even more based on what you say.

However, it is not a must and we need to reach to a point where we could end up with a good result if we are careful about it as well. I believe that we need to reach to a point where we could make some profit and make some changes. Hopefully it will be better.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Lakai01 on September 14, 2023, 05:44:11 PM
So, thanks everybody for their replies and opinions! I keep learning!
If you are actually concerned with the learning factor about cryptos I can highly recommend @Coinbureau. I've been following him since his early days (he has a lot of followers on YouTube now) and his videos are some of the best out there in terms of quality. His altcoin videos are also really good and he doesn't shill projects but also shows their weaknesses.

He also posts once a week a summary of important news, both in general and about certain coins specifically. Absolutely informative and entertaining.

This is the link to his Youtube-channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CoinBureau


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Nrcewker on September 14, 2023, 05:49:08 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

It’s just another source of income I would say. More the Merrier, if they are able to make decent amount of money through affiliates, then it will motivate them to create, edit and upload more videos. There’s nothing wrong with it, as long as they are not promoting illegal things. If you ask me then, I don’t really click at the affiliate links of these influencers. This is because I don’t want to make money from my wagering amounts. I mean they are already making so much money, so here I become cruel.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: teosanru on September 14, 2023, 05:53:44 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Crypto trading is profitable for a very few. But the people who sell their courses and youtube and etc. It's rarely profitable for them infact most of them end in losses in trading and make most of the money by giving Ted talks to non-traders. This is why I clearly say never to trade immediately after listening to these YouTube Gurus go through the complete process yourself first and only then do any actions.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Hamphser on September 14, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

It’s just another source of income I would say. More the Merrier, if they are able to make decent amount of money through affiliates, then it will motivate them to create, edit and upload more videos. There’s nothing wrong with it, as long as they are not promoting illegal things. If you ask me then, I don’t really click at the affiliate links of these influencers. This is because I don’t want to make money from my wagering amounts. I mean they are already making so much money, so here I become cruel.
Yes, the more the merrier and this is where most people be thinking about having extra income if they are really that good at something since they are influencers on which it would really be just that normal that they

would really be taking advantage on having tons of followers which they would really be utilizing those things for them to make more money via having those kind of streams and affiliating with some companies to make them register or join under his link and showing some trading which it might be able to hook up people to follow. Its a win-win situation because we know that they could really be able to get paid for such marketing and at the same time they do able to earn with their good trades. I cant really blame out people on why they would really be raising up with those kind of questions on which it would really be just that so common that people will really be finding ways and methods on which they could be able to get some multiple source as much as possible.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 14, 2023, 10:15:23 PM
Sometimes, affiliate marketers or individuals that create content on social media or YouTube are not really creating that content because they want to help you, but because they are more interested in monetizing their page or channels. Although not all affiliate marketers pass wrong information for their selfish interests, what you must also understand is that affiliate marketers are paid for whatever they are promoting, and they will definitely advertise what the company asks them to tell the public. It's now left for you to be wise and do your due diligence research about the content before making a decision to join. Those traders that make some video tutorials on how to make $100 profit every day from trading, only a few of those videos are real, but there are a lot of them that are just for selfish purposes, because even if you decide to try any strategy you learn from them, it's never going to be as profitable as what you were shown on the video. So you don't have to rely on everything you see on YouTube or on the internet.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: palle11 on September 14, 2023, 10:43:54 PM

Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…


They may only be doing that as profession and getting people to be interested. They are influential people who already may not necessarily be traders but are interested in getting some profit and royalties from trading. It is also like in soccer bet that someone invite other people in groups like telegram to sell prediction for them. The same question is also asked why they can not use that knowledge they have to bet and win big all to themselves but because they are not guaranteed about such winning, they sell them to others. That is same as what happens with trading call groups.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: blockman on September 15, 2023, 02:25:34 AM
They're all fake, showing off on social media that they really are influential and have become millionaires. But you know what? If they are rich enough then there's no shadow selling on their contents but if you look at them, you see the obvious right? They've got target people and those are those that are easy to believe to a thing they say. That's the mistake that many do because they think that these influencers are always right. Some of them may even feed you with a scam project and many think that they're genius for telling that. Sorry but not sorry, that's really happening for many influencers out there that don't even make a research for what they are being paid for to advertise or be their ambassador.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Fara Chan on September 15, 2023, 03:05:13 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

Maybe those who are still doing it now don't think it is a bothersome thing so they are still quite happy doing it well even though they have to create, edit and upload so many videos to one or several platforms. Even though other people see it as a form of hard work, but as long as they are still happy to do it and never complain about their own work, I think it is fine and not a problem because it is also about how to make money through some their own path of struggle.

And maybe those artists, influencers, celebrities and YouTubers still think that trading is not always profitable and in fact it is. So they all still do some other work that can make money for themselves so they are still willing to promote other people's products through short advertisements and make videos for the things that people are looking for the most at the moment so that they can also get profit from this action. So I think there is nothing wrong with that as long as it can add to our income in life, because money will always be useful for anything now.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: ShowOff on September 15, 2023, 03:14:04 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

Maybe those who are still doing it now don't think it is a bothersome thing so they are still quite happy doing it well even though they have to create, edit and upload so many videos to one or several platforms. Even though other people see it as a form of hard work, but as long as they are still happy to do it and never complain about their own work, I think it is fine and not a problem because it is also about how to make money through some their own path of struggle.

There are two things they really expect about why they regularly create content:
1. Affiliate
2. Advertising revenue.

Content creators take advantage of opportunities from advertising and affiliate revenues to gain financial coffers, while people don't realize it. Beginning traders tend to look to these content creators for direction on how to trade crypto assets well, so that is something that will benefit the content creators.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Vaculin on September 15, 2023, 10:35:21 AM
Some can be reliable at some point, others are not at all. But one thing is certain, they make a living out from those words that are coming out from their mouth. And the only way we can tell if they can be trusting or not, if they can be worthy of our penny or not is by doing our own research. That way, we will also learn from our own, and we will be more convinced if those crypto influencers are helping us to be in profits as well, or they are just taking advantage of our funds by telling things that are too good to be true.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Taskford on September 15, 2023, 12:49:28 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

Choose those influencers that give informative contents to his followers and actually we can actually see that. To many influencers are there for hype then care about the profit they can get from people who watch and register to the link given. Its so rare to see those people who truly educate that's why we need to widen up our research and we can find those people. Also nothing wrong about those affiliates the only thing bad about that is they are not helping but instead they help scammers to scam their followers.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Out of mind on September 15, 2023, 04:00:39 PM
As far as I know, people who upload various influential and profitable videos on crypto trading on social media are mostly misinformed. There are many such YouTubers who make such absurd videos only to increase the subscribers and views of their channels. If they were such good wise traders then they wouldn't have created such a problem, instead they would have been trading continuously and could have become rich very easily, but instead of doing this, they made videos with trouble, so we have to understand that it was a completely wrong decision. They give Also, some people give a lot of wrong information, and they do their own research and make videos where those who invest are definitely scammed. But there are many YouTubers who can do good research and make some videos aimed at profiting experienced business people, they are good and can be profitable if invested accordingly. However, there are many types of videos on YouTube, and it is possible to earn money by following them and trading.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on September 15, 2023, 04:52:52 PM
There's nothing inherently wrong with people making a living by making promotional videos on behalf of a product or service. Unfortunately, when it comes to crypto there are a lot of people who don't have any morals whatsoever and will shill the scummiest garbage possible. The more buzzwords and hyperbole you see in a video the more likely it is to be a scam.

There are some people who genuinely want to educate people like BTC Sessions and a few others. If creating content is your main job and you're putting in a good amount of time into editing and doing research then it's completely fine to use your platform to earn money as an affiliate since YouTube sure as hell isn't going to give you a fair cut from their profits. It's the Bitboy and Ivan on Tech types who intentionally mislead and dump tokens on their followers that I have a problem with.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: jossiel on September 15, 2023, 04:59:26 PM
Better call them affiliates because they always give their referral link for each content that they make. Whether they're paid or not, AFAIK, it's still a different profit for them if they have successfully referred people and signed under their links.

But those links are also like a tracking link for their sponsor so that they will have the record if these 'affiliates' of them are effective marketers and contributes a lot to their marketing.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 15, 2023, 11:00:28 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…?
Cryptocurrency may be profitable for some of the influencers and YouTubers but it's not as easy or adorable as most of the influencers and YouTubers says in their video or content because there's time they lost in trading.
However, making profit in trading doesnt mean they shouldnt care about earning more money through any means which the earning can be use for another important purpose or crypto long term investment.

Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
That doesnt mean you should run away, there are some infuencer that are posting educating content while there are some that make content for advertisement purpose what you need is to understand how the system works but if you dont just focus on Bitcoin investment or trading if you have the require knowledge.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Mauser on September 16, 2023, 05:59:31 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

Because they are not as profitable as they want to appear. I stopped believing in these YouTube videos that want to show us how quickly they can make a profit. There is no verification on how real the numbers are we are seeing online. The influencer could either fake their profits or hide all the losing trades and appear more profitable. As long as there is no independent verification on all the trading being done o would not believe them. These influencer usually get their money through number of people watching the videos and Ads on top of it. An affiliation scheme brings in additional money and let's the influencer benefit from any money the new customers bring in. This doesn't mean that all their ideas are bad. If the content creator is funny and talks about a lot of different topics then I would still keep watching them. Just don't believe everything they tell you, remaining critical and cautious can save a lot of money on a bad investment.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: justdimin on September 16, 2023, 08:03:10 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Choose those influencers that give informative contents to his followers and actually we can actually see that. To many influencers are there for hype then care about the profit they can get from people who watch and register to the link given. Its so rare to see those people who truly educate that's why we need to widen up our research and we can find those people. Also nothing wrong about those affiliates the only thing bad about that is they are not helping but instead they help scammers to scam their followers.
There are some good ones in the rough but it's true that there are a lot of bad ones along with the good ones and that causes all the problems. If there are 90 bad ones, there is only one good one among them, and the odds do not look in favor for us. This is why we should be a lot more careful about it and not make wrong calculations based on the support of some bad influencer, it will end up with us getting a bad result for sure.

We should be a lot more careful and find influencers that actually does the research and provide us proof, not just share names or something. If I can see a social media person to end up with hours and hours of hard work to provide me something, I may start to believe that person for real because he put in the effort.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: AicecreaME on September 16, 2023, 09:09:21 AM
The reason behind that is to earn more money, they get paid by their sponsors to from a certain trading platform and they also earn from affiliates program.

There's nothing wrong with that, I've seen couples of top trading platforms that's being promoted by celebrities and YouTubers in our country. It's up to you if you're going to use their link to get something in return like a voucher or couple of dollars once you verified your trading account on a certain platform or you could just don't and do it yourself instead.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: irhact on September 16, 2023, 03:09:30 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

They do this because they're not traders but influencers, they only claim to be traders to connect with their audience as that's the perfect way they can use to influence them. If they were not appearing as traders, many individual that are subscribers to their channels won't have done that or listen to what they have to say. We don't have to believe everything coming out of the mouth of influencers because as their names says, they're only here to influence and not as financial advisors.

They charge those fees to join their private VIP groups and participate in referral programs because that's how they get paid. Not every project pays them big money for promotion and to run a professional YT channel isn't cheap so for them to keep up they do other things.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: rat03gopoh on September 16, 2023, 04:15:44 PM
They do this because they're not traders but influencers, they only claim to be traders to connect with their audience as that's the perfect way they can use to influence them.
The fact is that some traders do live trading, if their portfolio is good and can be confirmed, then more and more people come to subscribe which makes them truly influencers by their profession. Affiliate programs are one form of passive income that can't be ignored when it comes from large companies.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: tjtonmoy on September 17, 2023, 04:06:38 PM
‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Isn't it obvious? It's all about money, of course. No one will ever miss an opportunity to earn money! When they upload a video, they get money for that. They are trading and making money in one way and also making money from YouTube another way. Yes, they are not all traders. Some big channel may upload a video promoting some crypto projects. But they are doing it because they were paid by that project. If you know their background and know that they are not traders and only promoting it for the money, then try to stay away from them. It will create a hype for sure, but as we all know, hype tends to die soon.

Personally, I never follow anyone related to crypto. You may follow some well known persons, but that kind of stuff is for short term gains. If you are a day trader, this may help you a lot. Because short term market movements are based on sentiments and trends. I always focus on long term gains. So all I do is buy and hodl BTC.

IMO, influencers are the cause of FUD and FOMO. So it is better to stay away from them and focus on long term investment.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: adaseb on September 18, 2023, 04:09:01 AM
They do this because they're not traders but influencers, they only claim to be traders to connect with their audience as that's the perfect way they can use to influence them.
The fact is that some traders do live trading, if their portfolio is good and can be confirmed, then more and more people come to subscribe which makes them truly influencers by their profession. Affiliate programs are one form of passive income that can't be ignored when it comes from large companies.

Most real traders don’t care about passive income from referrals. How many Wall Street traders do you see who are publishing their affiliate links to make an extra 1%.

The ones who spam their affiliate link usually do it because they want free money for doing nothing. They pretend to trade or trade with small units and trick people into think they are some great traders.
Happens all the time in almost all markets.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Awaklara on September 18, 2023, 04:59:24 AM
They do this because they're not traders but influencers, they only claim to be traders to connect with their audience as that's the perfect way they can use to influence them.
The fact is that some traders do live trading, if their portfolio is good and can be confirmed, then more and more people come to subscribe which makes them truly influencers by their profession. Affiliate programs are one form of passive income that can't be ignored when it comes from large companies.
as long as the influencer is truly an experienced trader and shares their trading activities well. in the sense that there are also platforms that collaborate with influencers to promote their platforms. so maybe what the influencer is sharing is not the real experience. I see this quite a lot on gambling platforms, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that it is also done by exchange platforms.

Regarding Affiliates, everyone can do it. and that will be passive income that can be obtained apart from trading or streaming activities. there's nothing wrong with that. everyone deserves to grow their income. the most important thing is that they do it well and don't aim to create a pump and dump scheme with the streaming videos they make.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on September 18, 2023, 06:26:14 AM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them?
Most of the opinions from these crypto influencers are not reliable because they don't have the years of experience in the space to be able to give any sound advice. That is why you often find them repeating what most analysts are saying and some are creating hype to pump and dump. Once in a blue moon, they may drop some solid advice but still, be cautious and do your own research very well before taking their advice. Those who didn't have lost a fortune.



Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 18, 2023, 07:35:57 AM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them?
Most of the opinions from these crypto influencers are not reliable because they don't have the years of experience in the space to be able to give any sound advice. That is why you often find them repeating what most analysts are saying and some are creating hype to pump and dump. Once in a blue moon, they may drop some solid advice but still, be cautious and do your own research very well before taking their advice. Those who didn't have lost a fortune.

There are others that have long years of experience in crypto but are still dumb and still giving advice to others and others are also affiliated with it which is why they keep advertising it. But most of the influencers that I've seen have been in the crypto space during the COVID which is not that long experience and that is why I don't listen to them and always skip their videos. It is better to get advice from yourself from the knowledge and research you've conducted before concluding you'll invest in it.

Influencers are just making it content because they know that they will gain views because a lot of people are interested in it.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: fingnome on September 18, 2023, 09:23:47 AM
The diversification of income streams, such as combining trading profits with affiliate revenues, is a wise strategy for financial stability. However, the integrity of content should always prevail; influencers should prioritize genuine advice over monetary gains


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: freedomgo on September 18, 2023, 10:16:25 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
A lot of them are mostly for our money. That is why it’s better to trust our own research and analysis in order to avoid huge losses in the future. Although there are still few who deserve our trust, and we can learn from their shared experiences, but just to avoid regrets in the end, learn to trade on your own by not trying to imitate others. Remember that what may work for others may not be working for everyone.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: kingvirtus09 on September 18, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
You know the truth: I don't just believe YouTubers or influencers on social media platforms. Because most of them are not telling the truth. Especially for those who have a lot of followers or subscribers, of course there are video editors who are hired so that the impact of their content will be good enough to attract most of the viewers on any social media platform.

Even with affiliate marketing, I don't believe in what they do, because they are the number one that will benefit from the promotion they do, and that's normal because any social media platform today is also a business that can be used to get income, meaning the majority of the content they make just for the views is not credible.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Stakefast on September 18, 2023, 01:29:11 PM
Affiliate is a passive money making methode.
You bring users to a website and you actually own part of the fees they generate without the trouble of managing / creating the website itself.

The more users you invite, the bigger the possibility to earn big money.

Mostly its all micro-amounts. But if you are lucky enough to invite a highroller, you may get rained on with "free passive money"


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: traderethereum on September 18, 2023, 02:06:10 PM
Those who create videos and share them on YouTube want to earn extra money from people who join through their shared links.
We don't need to run away from them because they are just sharing something that might be useful for other people and they also don't force people to register.
Many followers follow their ways of making money so some can also make money.
We don't have to trust what they offer because they might not use it and just spread it to get money from sponsors and that's how they make money.
And if anyone registers themselves using the link shared by that influencer, that influencer gets additional commission from their followers.
I also don't like videos like that and will move on to other interesting videos.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 18, 2023, 02:55:14 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…?
Because they want more money. I mean who doesn't want more money right? If you can double your earnings thru affiliate marketing then I guess there's noting wrong about that. Many are doing it, and it will continue for a very long time as long as these types of influencers are in Youtube. If I'm in their spot right now, and I'm good at trading, but at the same time, I've given the opportunity to promote a legit thing, and I will earn from it then I'll grab it.

Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos?
Money.

They want more money, but that doesn't mean that they're greedy. It's just that they also have things to pay, and they will maximize their time as much as possible. They know that if they will take time creating, editing, and uploading videos on Youtube, they will earn from it, aside from the fact that they're profitable in trading as well.

Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
That will depend on you already. If you want to support that influencer, and you have spare money as well then you can try the product that your favorite influencer is promoting. As for me, I did watch some crypto-influencers, but I never invested, or bought any product that they're promoting.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: bitgolden on September 18, 2023, 04:00:24 PM
I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a video made by a crypto influencer. I used to watch them but that was a long time ago. The reality is that when we are truly a crypto trader then we are always much busier focused on our trading. And we are also busy looking for fundamental information that is useful for our trading.

But it is possible that the influencers who create video content on YouTube are also professional traders. It's just that when they get a lot of viewers or followers, I also know that income from YouTube is actually higher. And the process of making videos actually doesn't make us too stressed. And will not be afraid of experiencing losses. That's why there may be many traders who actually change professions to become affiliates or YouTubers. Because they know that even though trading in crypto is also profitable, there are also big risks that they have to face. And when they have found a better way to make money with less risk, namely by creating YouTube video content by sharing their trading skills, then I think it makes a lot more sense. Maybe I should also start learning to make videos and become a content creator  ;D
I would say making videos everyday and putting a lot of effort into them is still a lot of work, it just depends on the income. If you are a person who makes a video once every two days, then you will realize that you are going to spend all that 2 days making the video, takes hours to shoot it, and hours to edit it.

If you are getting viewed tens of thousands of times, then it does make sense and you could end up making a profit from it, and youtube income will be amazing in that case. But, if you are getting maybe just one or two thousand views per video, that would mean that you are going to get 300-400 thousand per year, that's it and the income for that would be less than a thousand dollars, and that's not worth it for a years worth of work.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: YOSHIE on September 18, 2023, 04:01:34 PM
Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
As far as I know, affiliates and influencers can be said to both market or recruit users, through advertising how to trade crypto on YouTubers as a whole, as you can see, However, the two sources did not actually carry out crypto trading as seen, they only edited it to look like it was real and actually happened, to attract crypto users.

What differentiates affiliates & influencers is: [1] Their affiliates are required and obliged to attract users to trade, usually we will see a reference link in the description of their YouTuber channel, the more users, the affiliate can get a high percentage of the exchange and [2] the influencer only does advertising, Influencers don't care whether users trade or not, the point is: they are only for advertisers on YouTubers, because they are paid in advance by the owner of the crypto trading exchange or based on a rate card.

For this reason, don't be surprised if you see them taking great pains to edit, create content and so on so that it looks good and perfect, because they do it for money, not based on their experience.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: macson on September 18, 2023, 07:00:36 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
creating video content for YouTube or so on is not more difficult than trading, i know there are some influencers who don't make anything from trading but only make money from affiliate rewards that they distribute through their content links.  Just pay attention to influencers who diligently upload videos on all their social media accounts, do they have time to trade? Trading is not an activity for 1 hour or 5 hour, but for many hours. Apart from that, when you are tired of trading, you still have the enthusiasm to make videos! their work is purely as content creators, they only use their trading activities to attract viewers to register through their affiliate links, trusting them is fine but don't trust them 100%.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: justdimin on September 19, 2023, 07:04:52 AM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
That will depend on you already. If you want to support that influencer, and you have spare money as well then you can try the product that your favorite influencer is promoting. As for me, I did watch some crypto-influencers, but I never invested, or bought any product that they're promoting.
That is still not really a smart move. I mean just because you want to trust that influencer and just because you have the money for it, doesn't mean that you should be free to make a mistake. I mean you ARE free to make a mistake but that doesn't change that it's a mistake. We should be careful about it and not really make these kind of mistakes, we should be careful about it.

I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that it is going to end up with a solution that would be a lot worse and should be a lot better on the long run. I think we could end up with a result that would change things for the long term and for that to be important we need to end up with a deal that would help people and this will not help them.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: darewaller on September 19, 2023, 11:05:39 AM
People are looking for fame or like to create content, but it is easy to know if the YouTuber likes that or is a paid text. Paid texts and advertisements make the YouTuber’s content very variable. Every day he will tell you to invest in something new and completely different from the past because he is looking for profit, and here you should. Stay away. The YouTuber who preaches on creating content and sharing the entire experience, whether good or bad, and with all the circumstances it went through, is the one who makes affiliate money as if it were additional money, and if it does not exist, it will continue to work. It is just like those who have a lot of Bitcoin and yet they are present in the forum.
Whether if they are for fame and they want sponsors as much as possible, they are still creating a content. Usually if the content that they are promoting is a paid one, there will be a "paid" word that we will in that video.

The creator can also say it whether in the caption or within the video. I like it if they does this because it can give us a disclaimer about the risk that we might face. Even those creators didn't get a sign up, they can still earn something. For those who don't have a sponsorship, they need to try their best to convince their audience and they can even lie just to get a secure sign-up because this is the only way for them to earn.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: HONDACD125 on September 19, 2023, 11:11:14 AM

creating video content for YouTube or so on is not more difficult than trading, i know there are some influencers who don't make anything from trading but only make money from affiliate rewards that they distribute through their content links.  Just pay attention to influencers who diligently upload videos on all their social media accounts, do they have time to trade? Trading is not an activity for 1 hour or 5 hour, but for many hours. Apart from that, when you are tired of trading, you still have the enthusiasm to make videos! their work is purely as content creators, they only use their trading activities to attract viewers to register through their affiliate links, trusting them is fine but don't trust them 100%.

I think trading is a hard job, but making a video to tell about trading is even harder. Yes, it is true that there are many YouTubers who do not earn from trading but from paid promotions, or rewards. I think YouTubers who create and upload videos on YouTube and social media accounts on a daily basis do not have time for trading.They only report daily news that promote a project or tell about investing in top coins.

However, there are YouTubers who invest and trade themselves and make videos every few days to educate people about trading or investing,but majority are people who have good followers and on the basis of large number of followers they are hired by various projects to attract people to their projects which they reward them for free.


You are right that there are some of them who also register you with various exchanges through their link, which gives you a discount on trading fees on the exchange. I think no one will be motivated to make videos after getting tired of trading because it is a hard work and tiring job. However, all people talking about trading on social media accounts should be watched, as we can get good experience and information from them, but the decision should always be our own. Trade should be done after doing our own analysis and research.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: LoyceMobile on September 19, 2023, 11:26:37 AM
I strongly dislike the concept of "influencers". They make people do things, not because they believe it makes sense but because they don't realize the person who recommended it uses them to earn money.
This becomes instantly very obvious send influencer's account gets hacked, and naive idiots give a million dollars to a scammer. People should think for themselves.

If you want to influence someone, do it with knowledge instead of fame. Unfortunately, you don't get rich from that, which is why we're stuck with BS "influencers".

The funny thing is: most people who realize people post on Bitcointalk for money, don't realize people post on YouTube for much more money.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: CODE200 on September 19, 2023, 12:32:49 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

I don't see any problem with being a crypto affiliate and an influencer. It only gets bad when they try to feed their viewers with false information just for the sake of earning views and money. Because the time you become a public figure, you are now responsible on your audience because that is your job and you're getting paid for it, and might as well do your job properly. And as viewers, we are also responsible on who we should and should not follow because not all information we see on medias should be consumed. I would also like to emphasize that not everyone we see on social media is an influencer, it is actually a big word and it should not be used by anyone who just posted video on youtube and the likes, and then quoted themselves as an influencer. Because for you to become an influencer, you should have a wide knowledge about a certain expertise, for example crypto, and you should be able to influence your audience positively. I have known several influencers, and I still follow them up until now because they've become a big help for me when I was just starting to learn about crypto.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: red4slash on September 19, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
I strongly dislike the concept of "influencers". They make people do things, not because they believe it makes sense but because they don't realize the person who recommended it uses them to earn money.
This becomes instantly very obvious send influencer's account gets hacked, and naive idiots give a million dollars to a scammer. People should think for themselves.

If you want to influence someone, do it with knowledge instead of fame. Unfortunately, you don't get rich from that, which is why we're stuck with BS "influencers".

The funny thing is: most people who realize people post on Bitcointalk for money, don't realize people post on YouTube for much more money.
It seems like it's undeniable that a lot of people believe influencers, even if the information or whatever they deliver is ultimately garbage. I wouldn't say all influencers are self-serving, but most of them are. They get paid and they don't care about the impact of what they say or do on their followers. You could say the benefits are for him and his followers or people who believe in him, and the losses are only for his followers.
Some of them are responsible, but some of them are not. But we can't stop this, because this is part of the times. It is up to us to filter which ones we can follow and which ones we should not.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Mahanton on September 19, 2023, 06:43:27 PM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
That will depend on you already. If you want to support that influencer, and you have spare money as well then you can try the product that your favorite influencer is promoting. As for me, I did watch some crypto-influencers, but I never invested, or bought any product that they're promoting.
That is still not really a smart move. I mean just because you want to trust that influencer and just because you have the money for it, doesn't mean that you should be free to make a mistake. I mean you ARE free to make a mistake but that doesn't change that it's a mistake. We should be careful about it and not really make these kind of mistakes, we should be careful about it.

I personally believe that the best thing to do would be making sure that it is going to end up with a solution that would be a lot worse and should be a lot better on the long run. I think we could end up with a result that would change things for the long term and for that to be important we need to end up with a deal that would help people and this will not help them.
Whether following or trying out to buy or deal up with things on what you do see on the influencer that you've been wathcing.Cant really be denied that these fellas could really make out that kind of influence in regarding into the decisions that you would be making and they arent called "influencers" if they arent really those people who dont influence someone. lol. This is why it would really be that wise or making use of your own common sense when it comes to decision making specially in deal with money or spending because if you do let yourself that easily get influenced or following someone in regarding your decisions then it most likely it would really be ending up on a disaster and this is something that must be avoided.

Make your own decisions basing with your own intellect. Its not bad on following someone but dont make these people as your idols or the ones who would really be dictating out on the things that you must do because
in the end of the day which you are the ones who would really be that affected on the time that you had made out bad decisions and this is something that needs to be look upon. There are people who are really that
very hard headed on which they would really be doing things which they do have in mind until they do get wrecked up and this is where late realization would kick in.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: South Park on September 19, 2023, 07:27:24 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
And that is the question every single would-be trader needs to ask to themselves, if a person is making a killing with their trades then they will have no desire to share that information with anyone, as what is the point of putting a target on your back and tell anyone that cares to listen that you are making a lot of money by trading? In that case the right thing to do is to stay quiet and tell no one, and since influencers do the opposite then it is easy to guess they are making no money through trading.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Finestream on September 19, 2023, 09:19:00 PM
Affiliates and YouTubing is totally fine! Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue. As long as you do affiliate marketing and YouTubing in a moral and ethical manner.

As for pump and dumpers and people doing fake TA, fuck them.
That’s how people these days are maximizing their income because they never focus into a single source of income. Instead of sole trading, if they think they have the high knowledge and trading skills, then affiliating and YouTubing are just perfect for them. As long as they never feed people with wrong information, that’s actually very fine. They can get decent profits out from them, even much higher than what they can gain from trading.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: lalabotax on September 19, 2023, 09:56:29 PM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Crypto affiliates and influencers only do their job, namely influencing their followers or audience in general to follow those they affiliate or influence. In this case, when they are paid to promote or influence other people and especially work together as affiliates, they will do various things to attract new customers or their users. In this case, it could be that they actually don't care what the project is, but they only care about the rewards they can get when more and more people watch or even participate directly through their affiliates. This will be profitable for them. So most of them won't care what happens next to the people.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: UchihaSarada on September 20, 2023, 01:16:05 AM
Crypto affiliates and influencers only do their job, namely influencing their followers or audience in general to follow those they affiliate or influence. In this case, when they are paid to promote or influence other people and especially work together as affiliates, they will do various things to attract new customers or their users.
If their jobs are potentially harmful for their followers, they should think deeply and carefully before taking action. They are influencers because they have high number of followers, big communities so they must think more carefully before they shill any project, even they think it is their job.

As a person who does not have many followers, my words mean nothing and won't affect many people but as a big influencer, if they shill a scam project, many of their followers will be scammed.

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In this case, it could be that they actually don't care what the project is, but they only care about the rewards they can get when more and more people watch or even participate directly through their affiliates. This will be profitable for them. So most of them won't care what happens next to the people.
In some nation like in the UK, shilling projects will be regulated more and considered as illegal. They will ban all advertisement of gambling casinos in Premier League.

Even Unpaid Social Media Crypto Promotions May Breach UK Ad Rules: Financial Regulator (https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/07/18/even-unpaid-social-media-crypto-promotions-may-breach-uk-ad-rules-financial-regulator/)


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Hamphser on September 20, 2023, 05:45:50 AM
Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
Crypto affiliates and influencers only do their job, namely influencing their followers or audience in general to follow those they affiliate or influence. In this case, when they are paid to promote or influence other people and especially work together as affiliates, they will do various things to attract new customers or their users. In this case, it could be that they actually don't care what the project is, but they only care about the rewards they can get when more and more people watch or even participate directly through their affiliates. This will be profitable for them. So most of them won't care what happens next to the people.
This is why as a viewer then you should really be that wary about on the videos or streams that you are really that seeing.You are on the age which you could already think on whats good and whats bad and its really just that impossible that you cant really be able to assess which things are meant to be dealing with or something that must avoid. Its true that they are really just doing things and been paid on what them told to do so and its never been their concern on what their viewers would really be ending up, unless if its a scam then they would really be that included into those people who would really be needing to face up the consequences but for a known influencer then it would be impossible that they would carelessly accepting offers or jobs that would really be tarnishing out their reputation that they had built for so long.

It is really just that there are people who are really that naïve and really that following someone blindly and making out deposits directly just because they are seeing that the influencer is really that making huge
money specially on gambling and they would really be reflecting themselves to be winners until they would be busting out themselves and crying out like babies and ending up on regreting.
This is just as normal scenario i should say.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: JoyMarsha on September 22, 2023, 10:15:30 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
To those that have money, money is not always enough for them. If you invite or introduce them to a new business, they will jump into it fully to make more money from it without minding the risk involved.

The information they say is "power" and some of those online influencers that are into affiliated marketing are doing it for the money.  They don't care about the information they dish out to the general public whether is something that will bring people's downfall or not. That's not their concern as long as there is pay at the end of each affiliated video uploaded.

That is why you see many people turning themselves into crypto influencers because of the likes, views, and money they will end up getting at the end of the trading videos they uploaded


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Viscore on September 22, 2023, 10:48:22 PM
Those who create videos and share them on YouTube want to earn extra money from people who join through their shared links.
We don't need to run away from them because they are just sharing something that might be useful for other people and they also don't force people to register.
Many followers follow their ways of making money so some can also make money.
We don't have to trust what they offer because they might not use it and just spread it to get money from sponsors and that's how they make money.
And if anyone registers themselves using the link shared by that influencer, that influencer gets additional commission from their followers.
I also don't like videos like that and will move on to other interesting videos.
As long as they don’t force us to subscribe, that will be totally fine. However, I have seen some potential YouTubers that are definitely not just doing their job for money, but they are really trying to help and encourage people to learn from it so they can make money as well. For me, that means that they have no bad intention for us, and they’re not here to deceive us. Except for those who are obviously doing just for money without even thinking if their contents are helpful or not.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Unbunplease on September 22, 2023, 11:35:31 PM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 23, 2023, 02:00:18 AM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income

From what I have seen of the influencers in this era that I have watched on YouTube, maybe if I average 100%, only 1% of the influencers have the sense to teach about crypto trading. Because what was said is true, most of them are really after views and subscriptions, because that's where the youtube platform is designed to make money for the channels whose theme is about trading.

Because there are other advertisements that are also based on the number of views and subscribers on how they choose promoters or influencers to campaign their business. That's the cycle of social media platforms in this generation. And number one is that influencers will really benefit from the referral bonus or affiliate marketing because their advantage is the number of their subscribers and huge views.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Ahli38 on September 23, 2023, 06:10:25 AM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income
Well, that's the job of an influencer. They will always protect their reputation so that their followers do not abandon them. And often I see things like that too. They make ambiguous analyses. But many beginners follow it. But not all influencers are not very good at analysis. Indeed, there are several influencers who are also experts in trading analysis. And he just makes videos for fun. And usually he only has a few videos. or rarely upload videos. Because he is more focused on his own trading. But there are also crypto traders who have turned into content creators and influencers. So we can still rely on their analysis. It's just that it's very rare. Because most influencers sometimes only take other people's analysis. Which he then modified with his own version. So there are really two types of crypto influencers. There are those who are really good at crypto trading and there are those who are not good at crypto analysis. They only focus on building a following and earning from content creators and affiliates.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: retreat on September 23, 2023, 06:33:34 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

There is nothing wrong with trading, affiliates and opening a Youtube account to earn money. Even more than that, some have even opened offline and online classes and escrow services. Of course there is nothing more than diverse sources of income. In this way, someone can get more stable money and it might be able to support their trading/investment activities.
What I only hate are influencers who promote shitcoins or scam platforms to their audience just for dollars. That's why as a viewer, not all crypto influencers can be watched, because most of them are just making money and not providing education.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: TheSpiral on September 23, 2023, 05:36:41 PM
There is nothing wrong with trading, affiliates and opening a Youtube account to earn money. Even more than that, some have even opened offline and online classes and escrow services. Of course there is nothing more than diverse sources of income. In this way, someone can get more stable money and it might be able to support their trading/investment activities.
What I only hate are influencers who promote shitcoins or scam platforms to their audience just for dollars. That's why as a viewer, not all crypto influencers can be watched, because most of them are just making money and not providing education.

There is no bad thing to be influencer but try to be a good influencers because you will make money when you share your knowledge with others but with the help of this knowledge investors choose their ways of earning so giving them inaccurate knowledge can make them disappoint.

Not all influencers are bad but if one or two out of them are scamming people then because of this concept they never trust on other influencers too.

Now a days everyone has sharp mind that they don't listen to a single influencers but always use blended words from different influencers. Once someone asks you for money then realize that the work of such individuals is not accurate but only scam people for collecting charges from them.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Sanitough on September 23, 2023, 05:55:41 PM
Affiliates and YouTubing is totally fine! Yes, you might be making money trading, but do you know what's better? Making money by trading AND making money through affiliates and YouTube revenue. As long as you do affiliate marketing and YouTubing in a moral and ethical manner.

As for pump and dumpers and people doing fake TA, fuck them.
Well said. Those were the new trends of making money online and as long as they do it rightly, then there’s no reason that we should run from it. Except for those who are there just to deceive the people and know nothing about crypto affiliating and YouTubing but only to satisfy their own pockets. With that, we should get rid of them.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Fatunad on September 23, 2023, 06:50:54 PM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income
Well, that's the job of an influencer. They will always protect their reputation so that their followers do not abandon them. And often I see things like that too. They make ambiguous analyses. But many beginners follow it. But not all influencers are not very good at analysis. Indeed, there are several influencers who are also experts in trading analysis. And he just makes videos for fun. And usually he only has a few videos. or rarely upload videos. Because he is more focused on his own trading. But there are also crypto traders who have turned into content creators and influencers. So we can still rely on their analysis. It's just that it's very rare. Because most influencers sometimes only take other people's analysis. Which he then modified with his own version. So there are really two types of crypto influencers. There are those who are really good at crypto trading and there are those who are not good at crypto analysis. They only focus on building a following and earning from content creators and affiliates.
There are ones who do mind their reputation and do show care into their followers/subscribers but there are ones who dont really care as long they could really be able to make money and get those jobs and getting paid
but it would really be that impossible that those who do reach out the state on having tons or good numbers of followers or huge network wont really be considering on protecting their integrity knowing that building up such numbers is never been that easy along the way which is why that majority of them would really be minding first whether the site or company that they are promoting is really that indeed that legit or something not that scam because on the time that problems do exist then this is the time that they would really be attached and would really be the ones would be facing up consequences on the time that legal issues or actions would kick in.
In overall these influencers are really just doing their job and getting paid and as viewers then it would really be always falls down into our own decisions that would be made out according into our own will
because if you do let yourself get easily fooled just because your favorite influencer had said such thing then it is really that your own fault.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: tygeade on September 24, 2023, 05:25:23 AM
I don't see any problem with being a crypto affiliate and an influencer. It only gets bad when they try to feed their viewers with false information just for the sake of earning views and money. Because the time you become a public figure, you are now responsible on your audience because that is your job and you're getting paid for it, and might as well do your job properly. And as viewers, we are also responsible on who we should and should not follow because not all information we see on medias should be consumed. I would also like to emphasize that not everyone we see on social media is an influencer, it is actually a big word and it should not be used by anyone who just posted video on youtube and the likes, and then quoted themselves as an influencer. Because for you to become an influencer, you should have a wide knowledge about a certain expertise, for example crypto, and you should be able to influence your audience positively. I have known several influencers, and I still follow them up until now because they've become a big help for me when I was just starting to learn about crypto.
Yes, there are way too many of them who only do it for the money and the fame, which results with them not caring about anything else, including their followers. If it means that they would get more followers and more money, they would let you lose money, which would be weird and difficult because if they make you lose money then it would be hard for them to grow, so they do have an incentive to make you profit.

However, just because they have incentive for it doesn't mean that they will only do that, they do not care about that, they will make the loss look like a good thing and they will end up promoting themselves even harder with the money they got in order to make more and more profit that way.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Fuso.hp on September 24, 2023, 07:07:18 AM
YouTubers you follow for trading or celebrities you follow will always bring you videos in which they have made profits, but never videos in which they experience losses in trading. You should never follow YouTubers directly, just take some ideas from them. How a youtuber trades and how he trades and earns huge profits If you want to trade like that you will definitely lose your money. Make yourself more efficient in trading. You can get ideas from other successful or experienced traders about the things that you find difficult and then you can try to become efficient yourself by using that idea. If you can try this way, you will surely become a successful trader.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: tvplus006 on September 24, 2023, 03:21:51 PM
Suffice it to recall a recent event when scammers gained access to Vitalik Buterin Twitter account and trusted him by following a phishing link that the attackers published. And as a result, they all lost the contents of their wallet. If followers didn't blindly trust everything published by Buterin, they would definitely keep their money.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Renampun on September 25, 2023, 06:30:49 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

influencers are not much different from politicians, their mouths are very sweet, they always show things that we don't know the authenticity of, so I never believe a bit of what they say, as if everything they do is easy (crypto trading, selling products )

I see on YouTube and even on Twitter there are many influencers who masquerade as trading experts even though they have never traded well. Their goal is of course to spread affiliate links that can be generated on the platform they will market on (exchange or gambling site), when you join via their affiliate link and make a deposit then you have given a little of your money to them, but if you really intend to help them and yourself then there's no harm in trying to register via their affiliate link because there are also influencers who give small bonuses to new members who register via the affiliate link they have.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Ahli38 on September 26, 2023, 12:58:08 PM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income
Well, that's the job of an influencer. They will always protect their reputation so that their followers do not abandon them. And often I see things like that too. They make ambiguous analyses. But many beginners follow it. But not all influencers are not very good at analysis. Indeed, there are several influencers who are also experts in trading analysis. And he just makes videos for fun. And usually he only has a few videos. or rarely upload videos. Because he is more focused on his own trading. But there are also crypto traders who have turned into content creators and influencers. So we can still rely on their analysis. It's just that it's very rare. Because most influencers sometimes only take other people's analysis. Which he then modified with his own version. So there are really two types of crypto influencers. There are those who are really good at crypto trading and there are those who are not good at crypto analysis. They only focus on building a following and earning from content creators and affiliates.
There are ones who do mind their reputation and do show care into their followers/subscribers but there are ones who dont really care as long they could really be able to make money and get those jobs and getting paid
but it would really be that impossible that those who do reach out the state on having tons or good numbers of followers or huge network wont really be considering on protecting their integrity knowing that building up such numbers is never been that easy along the way which is why that majority of them would really be minding first whether the site or company that they are promoting is really that indeed that legit or something not that scam because on the time that problems do exist then this is the time that they would really be attached and would really be the ones would be facing up consequences on the time that legal issues or actions would kick in.
In overall these influencers are really just doing their job and getting paid and as viewers then it would really be always falls down into our own decisions that would be made out according into our own will
because if you do let yourself get easily fooled just because your favorite influencer had said such thing then it is really that your own fault.
I totally agree with you. Because basically everyone wants to earn money and they have their own type of work. And the same goes for an influencer who actually does their job as an influencer. Apart from all the things they share in their content, whether in the form of invitations or something like that. So actually they don't force anyone. So if we then follow information from an influencer and we immediately believe it without doing in-depth research first.if then everything ends not well. So clearly it is our own fault. Because we have determined and chosen to believe in what the influencer shares. In essence, we must have protection for ourselves in receiving all types of information that reaches us. When we get information, we have to re-research the information we received. Before arriving at the decision or conclusion stage.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Adbitco on September 26, 2023, 01:49:44 PM
Trading is not that easy as you may see it because there are people who ventured into it and lost entirely is either they didn't exercised patient to have a thorough knowledge towards the field before they start funding their account to trade, whereas there are some project owners who hires influencers to talk about their project and after all every it turns to pump and dump, yes this is a pure intension to lure investors into their fucking scam scheme called project in the name of coin to scam people of their good dollars. Sometimes most people finds it very much better running an affiliate program than the trading since they can't afford to lose their funds so alternatively prefers affiliate marketing.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: arwin100 on September 26, 2023, 02:26:41 PM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income
Well, that's the job of an influencer. They will always protect their reputation so that their followers do not abandon them. And often I see things like that too. They make ambiguous analyses. But many beginners follow it. But not all influencers are not very good at analysis. Indeed, there are several influencers who are also experts in trading analysis. And he just makes videos for fun. And usually he only has a few videos. or rarely upload videos. Because he is more focused on his own trading. But there are also crypto traders who have turned into content creators and influencers. So we can still rely on their analysis. It's just that it's very rare. Because most influencers sometimes only take other people's analysis. Which he then modified with his own version. So there are really two types of crypto influencers. There are those who are really good at crypto trading and there are those who are not good at crypto analysis. They only focus on building a following and earning from content creators and affiliates.
There are ones who do mind their reputation and do show care into their followers/subscribers but there are ones who dont really care as long they could really be able to make money and get those jobs and getting paid
but it would really be that impossible that those who do reach out the state on having tons or good numbers of followers or huge network wont really be considering on protecting their integrity knowing that building up such numbers is never been that easy along the way which is why that majority of them would really be minding first whether the site or company that they are promoting is really that indeed that legit or something not that scam because on the time that problems do exist then this is the time that they would really be attached and would really be the ones would be facing up consequences on the time that legal issues or actions would kick in.
In overall these influencers are really just doing their job and getting paid and as viewers then it would really be always falls down into our own decisions that would be made out according into our own will
because if you do let yourself get easily fooled just because your favorite influencer had said such thing then it is really that your own fault.
I totally agree with you. Because basically everyone wants to earn money and they have their own type of work. And the same goes for an influencer who actually does their job as an influencer. Apart from all the things they share in their content, whether in the form of invitations or something like that. So actually they don't force anyone. So if we then follow information from an influencer and we immediately believe it without doing in-depth research first.if then everything ends not well. So clearly it is our own fault. Because we have determined and chosen to believe in what the influencer shares. In essence, we must have protection for ourselves in receiving all types of information that reaches us. When we get information, we have to re-research the information we received. Before arriving at the decision or conclusion stage.

If the information they shared is true and not just for hype or clout then they are good to follow since there are influencers that are totally toxic and doesn't care on who's gonna see their video, they don't care about promoting scams since their main concern is theirselves or how they can earn money. We need to do research about this so that we can make sure that we will not regret our decision to follow them and their activity.

If we see those guys sharing their referral links then tell about unrealistic claims like what is commonly happening like its easy to earn money here we immediately start to doubt about that since no easy program to anyone that can give them a lot of money. Scammers are the one who usually used that funny words.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: _BlackStar on September 26, 2023, 07:33:06 PM
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If the information they shared is true and not just for hype or clout then they are good to follow since there are influencers that are totally toxic and doesn't care on who's gonna see their video, they don't care about promoting scams since their main concern is theirselves or how they can earn money. We need to do research about this so that we can make sure that we will not regret our decision to follow them and their activity.

If we see those guys sharing their referral links then tell about unrealistic claims like what is commonly happening like its easy to earn money here we immediately start to doubt about that since no easy program to anyone that can give them a lot of money. Scammers are the one who usually used that funny words.
A well-known influencer with a good reputation probably won't accept a ridiculous offer that damages their reputation. He may reap huge rewards - but if he does it for his own personal gain without caring about the risk of harm to others, then that is the last day he will ever gain the trust of his followers.

In fact, influencers who care about other people will do good research about something they are going to promote. I think one of the most well known is; Andreas Antonopoulos, he is an advocate for bitcoin.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 27, 2023, 12:47:09 PM
Those who create videos and share them on YouTube want to earn extra money from people who join through their shared links.
We don't need to run away from them because they are just sharing something that might be useful for other people and they also don't force people to register.
Many followers follow their ways of making money so some can also make money.
We don't have to trust what they offer because they might not use it and just spread it to get money from sponsors and that's how they make money.
And if anyone registers themselves using the link shared by that influencer, that influencer gets additional commission from their followers.
I also don't like videos like that and will move on to other interesting videos.
As long as they don’t force us to subscribe, that will be totally fine. However, I have seen some potential YouTubers that are definitely not just doing their job for money, but they are really trying to help and encourage people to learn from it so they can make money as well. For me, that means that they have no bad intention for us, and they’re not here to deceive us. Except for those who are obviously doing just for money without even thinking if their contents are helpful or not.

Being an influencer is not a bad thing; it can even be considered an opportunity if the community viewers like your niche, but if not, that means thinking of another theme that viewers will like on the YouTube platform.

It's just that sometimes there are other influencers who are really liars; the way they share the affiliate link is just too deceiving, where in the thumbnail it will be clickbait to the viewers once you play the video, far away on the subject. Then others will say that you will earn this amount by just signing up and sharing your referral link; that's the strategy of others, which I think is not a good method.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: South Park on September 27, 2023, 07:53:47 PM
Being an influencer is not a bad thing; it can even be considered an opportunity if the community viewers like your niche, but if not, that means thinking of another theme that viewers will like on the YouTube platform.

It's just that sometimes there are other influencers who are really liars; the way they share the affiliate link is just too deceiving, where in the thumbnail it will be clickbait to the viewers once you play the video, far away on the subject. Then others will say that you will earn this amount by just signing up and sharing your referral link; that's the strategy of others, which I think is not a good method.
Unfortunately most influencers are dishonest as they are trying to sell an image of themselves that is not true, and they do this because they know that if they do not do it then they cannot compete with those that choose to lie, then anyone that is looking to get honest advice from influencers needs to be on their guard as this is unlikely due to the nature of their jobs, and if they want to learn more about the markets they might as well just grab a book and be done with it.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Quidat on September 27, 2023, 08:26:54 PM
Being an influencer is not a bad thing; it can even be considered an opportunity if the community viewers like your niche, but if not, that means thinking of another theme that viewers will like on the YouTube platform.

It's just that sometimes there are other influencers who are really liars; the way they share the affiliate link is just too deceiving, where in the thumbnail it will be clickbait to the viewers once you play the video, far away on the subject. Then others will say that you will earn this amount by just signing up and sharing your referral link; that's the strategy of others, which I think is not a good method.
Unfortunately most influencers are dishonest as they are trying to sell an image of themselves that is not true, and they do this because they know that if they do not do it then they cannot compete with those that choose to lie, then anyone that is looking to get honest advice from influencers needs to be on their guard as this is unlikely due to the nature of their jobs, and if they want to learn more about the markets they might as well just grab a book and be done with it.
Everything would really be an act and they would really be making themselves looking good as much as possible and they would really be building up their reputation until into its peak since they do know on what are the benefits and advantages that it could give on the time but we cant really be able to generalize that majority of them are shit and dishonest. There are still a number who are really that honest and really minding about their viewers condition or situation on which only giving out some suggestions or whatever it would be on which it isnt really something that do deceive their followers on which it is something that we do easily notice it out if ever we do see a certain video or streams. Also, making use of your own common sense would really be just enough for you to be able to
determine whether you are following a right person or not. You wont really be that so dumb on not to notice if there's something odd is happening.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: beerlover on September 28, 2023, 06:42:00 PM
Being an influencer is not a bad thing; it can even be considered an opportunity if the community viewers like your niche, but if not, that means thinking of another theme that viewers will like on the YouTube platform.

It's just that sometimes there are other influencers who are really liars; the way they share the affiliate link is just too deceiving, where in the thumbnail it will be clickbait to the viewers once you play the video, far away on the subject. Then others will say that you will earn this amount by just signing up and sharing your referral link; that's the strategy of others, which I think is not a good method.
Those liars ones are the one that makes the rest of them looks terrible. I have seen plenty of them as well and it was a bad period for the crypto world during the bull run because there were plenty of them. I know that it may feel like it is doing fine but at the end of the day it wasn't really doing fine and the results weren't all that great.

I think it should be something important to remember that we are going to make a profit from it as much as we possibly could from it. This isn't that easy obviously but we could make it work one way or another if we push through it. I believe that we are going to end up with something that should be possible to make a profit from but only if we give it enough time to do that.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Lanatsa on September 28, 2023, 06:52:03 PM
Influencers in cryptocurrencies are often wrong with their forecasts. Many of them go tricky - they give two forecasts - if not up, then down, if not down, then up. Then they delete the wrong forecast and are always right. Influencers live off subscriptions, paid courses, and money paid to them by coin developers or exchanges. Referrals make up a large part of their income
Well, that's the job of an influencer. They will always protect their reputation so that their followers do not abandon them. And often I see things like that too. They make ambiguous analyses. But many beginners follow it. But not all influencers are not very good at analysis. Indeed, there are several influencers who are also experts in trading analysis. And he just makes videos for fun. And usually he only has a few videos. or rarely upload videos. Because he is more focused on his own trading. But there are also crypto traders who have turned into content creators and influencers. So we can still rely on their analysis. It's just that it's very rare. Because most influencers sometimes only take other people's analysis. Which he then modified with his own version. So there are really two types of crypto influencers. There are those who are really good at crypto trading and there are those who are not good at crypto analysis. They only focus on building a following and earning from content creators and affiliates.
There are ones who do mind their reputation and do show care into their followers/subscribers but there are ones who dont really care as long they could really be able to make money and get those jobs and getting paid
but it would really be that impossible that those who do reach out the state on having tons or good numbers of followers or huge network wont really be considering on protecting their integrity knowing that building up such numbers is never been that easy along the way which is why that majority of them would really be minding first whether the site or company that they are promoting is really that indeed that legit or something not that scam because on the time that problems do exist then this is the time that they would really be attached and would really be the ones would be facing up consequences on the time that legal issues or actions would kick in.
In overall these influencers are really just doing their job and getting paid and as viewers then it would really be always falls down into our own decisions that would be made out according into our own will
because if you do let yourself get easily fooled just because your favorite influencer had said such thing then it is really that your own fault.
I totally agree with you. Because basically everyone wants to earn money and they have their own type of work. And the same goes for an influencer who actually does their job as an influencer. Apart from all the things they share in their content, whether in the form of invitations or something like that. So actually they don't force anyone. So if we then follow information from an influencer and we immediately believe it without doing in-depth research first.if then everything ends not well. So clearly it is our own fault. Because we have determined and chosen to believe in what the influencer shares. In essence, we must have protection for ourselves in receiving all types of information that reaches us. When we get information, we have to re-research the information we received. Before arriving at the decision or conclusion stage.

If the information they shared is true and not just for hype or clout then they are good to follow since there are influencers that are totally toxic and doesn't care on who's gonna see their video, they don't care about promoting scams since their main concern is theirselves or how they can earn money. We need to do research about this so that we can make sure that we will not regret our decision to follow them and their activity.

If we see those guys sharing their referral links then tell about unrealistic claims like what is commonly happening like its easy to earn money here we immediately start to doubt about that since no easy program to anyone that can give them a lot of money. Scammers are the one who usually used that funny words.
There might be viewers or followers which they would really be making themselves get fooled with those influencers which arent really that bothering whether the thing that they are really that promoting are shit or not as long they would really be able to make money or earn and this what matter  the most but worry not because people wont really be that so dumb on not to see something on which it would really be resulting into those kind of avoidance later on on which it might really be leading up into that regret of a certain influencer. Most likely they would really be that so in case with their reputation and if they do see that their recent streams did get some tons or negativity then they would really be making out adjustments because if they dont then this would really be something that ends up with their career and this is something that they dont really like to happen. Influencers who had been able to make themselves getting big in terms of followers and popularity then for sure they've been wary about on their contents. If it turns out that it do brings out that harm into their reputation then they would really be simply making some adjustments with that and cant really just afford on risking it out specially if they do see something odd or something
that not really good to show into the public eye because it would really be rather creating that kind of judgement which would be ending up on negativity.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: Strongkored on September 29, 2023, 07:16:06 AM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…
It could be that getting more money will be more fun because basically humans will always feel the need to continue earning lots of money, as long as what they do doesn't harm other people then it's not a problem, what is a problem is if the influencer is promoting a scam project, only thinking about money what he gets without caring how many people lose because he promotes the project, but what sometimes cannot be denied is that the influencer realizes how difficult it is to make money from trading so he also does affiliates.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: sana54210 on October 01, 2023, 06:58:41 PM
If the information they shared is true and not just for hype or clout then they are good to follow since there are influencers that are totally toxic and doesn't care on who's gonna see their video, they don't care about promoting scams since their main concern is theirselves or how they can earn money. We need to do research about this so that we can make sure that we will not regret our decision to follow them and their activity.

If we see those guys sharing their referral links then tell about unrealistic claims like what is commonly happening like its easy to earn money here we immediately start to doubt about that since no easy program to anyone that can give them a lot of money. Scammers are the one who usually used that funny words.
Yes true, information sharing is a big deal and sometimes there could be fake news and sometimes that could turn out to be true. If anyone can find one that is sharing true news and not a fake one then I feel like it is going to be fine and not really end up being anything dangerous. I hope that we could get to a point where we could end up with a good return.

It is hard to find those people but if we could keep doing it then we are going to be fine about it as well. I know that it is going to be something that we could deal with in the end but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result that quickly. So, we could find a good place, and do the good thing but the result may come later than we like to, that's just the market.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: blockman on October 01, 2023, 11:27:08 PM
YouTubers you follow for trading or celebrities you follow will always bring you videos in which they have made profits, but never videos in which they experience losses in trading.
So true, they're all for the show and brag of their wins because that's more essential and likable for their audience unlike with their losses, it's no longer amusing as everyone is losing.

You should never follow YouTubers directly, just take some ideas from them. How a youtuber trades and how he trades and earns huge profits If you want to trade like that you will definitely lose your money. Make yourself more efficient in trading. You can get ideas from other successful or experienced traders about the things that you find difficult and then you can try to become efficient yourself by using that idea. If you can try this way, you will surely become a successful trader.
I agree, go get the helpful ideas and tips that they get but never get into following all that they are saying. You can take those words but pick what will be helpful for you instead of what everything has been fed to all of you. That's how the social media and influencing business goes, they will make themselves smart as if you're just going to extract what they say but in fact, many of those aren't based on actuality and experiences.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: poodle63 on October 01, 2023, 11:58:00 PM
always considers their opinion as just an advertisement, i would always doubt their opinion and the things they mentioned in general after all there's always ulterior motives.
i would argue that sometime these influencers and affiliates are good at giving information about the project that they're related with.
but at the end of the day they are doing this for the sake of money advertising the project sometime they don't care how shit the project are, or how shit their trading journey was.
therefore take it with grain of salt.
its always better if you can do analysis based on your own, so that you won't get easily deceived.


Title: Re: Honest question, what to think about “crypto” affiliates or influencers?
Post by: cheezcarls on October 03, 2023, 12:01:05 PM
Just wondering for the sake of it, if crypto trading was so profitable for so many influencers and YouTubers, why would they care so much about affiliate money…? Why take the trouble of creating, editing and uploading so many videos? Does this mean that if you see any YouTuber or crypto “celebrity” pumping a product or trying to make a buck out of content, that you should run away from them? ‘Cos why take so much trouble if you are already making money with your trading? Of course not everyone is a trader, but…

There is nothing wrong about being a Youtuber and/or affiliate in the world of cryptocurrency trading.

It’s just that most of them that I see are just hyping their viewers with their fake TAs, shilling tokens that it could go x10, x100, etc.

These kinds of influencers on Youtube, TikTok or any other platform who are doing these schemes just don’t care about what others think but rather focusing on earning money by giving them ridiculously expensive “crypto trading” courses.

I would rather be following ethical crypto Youtubers who are for real and not hyping their subscribers and/or followers. In fact I am a crypto Youtuber myself, but I would rather be called as a content creator or educator than being an influencer.