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As expected, Inoue is set to defend his title against Luis Nery of Mexico. Just don't understand why the venue will be in Tokyo, Japan as Nery was banned from fighting in Japan due to cheating but I guess it has already been lifted (for confirmation).

No odds yet but as usual, the Japanese Monster will be the heavy favorite on this fight.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/01/the-monster-returns-inoue-vs-nery-clash-confirmed-for-may/

So Nery would really be first on the line, it is really just that not shocking that they would be lifting that ban in Nery just because it do have a fight against Inoue. So its not really a surprising thing.
Why they do really love for Inoue not to fight outside Japan? This is why its never been that avoidable that boxing  fans around would really be having those rumors and sayings
that there's something behind but well, if everything is fair then it wont really be an issue but even me, would really be loving to see Inoue to come out and touch up another soil
when it comes to his further boxing matches.

Nery? would stood a chance.? He has power but i cant say about the speed on which i would really be still sticking on Inoue
for this upcoming fight.

I was expecting the same though. I thought it will be outside Japan due to the ban issue, but this confirmation eliminates the doubt that Nery is still ban. Good to see Inoue finally getting a good opponent, hopefully Nery would give Inoue some good challenge as he looks tough in that picture.

Still, I would favor Inoue to win, he is unbeatable I believe.


We have this (https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/naoya-inoue-v-luis-nery/winner), not sure if it's official though, but Inoue is 1.10 heavy favorite in that.

Yes, it was speculate that he will be the first to have a crack at Inoue after winning the undisputed title. But you raised a very important point, he is supposedly ban in Japan, but according to the links, it will in Inoue's country, so it was a big surprised that the Japanese boxing commission is going to give exception to the ban on Neri.

In any case, I don't think it will have a bearing in this match.

Obviously, Inoue is going to be the huge favorite here and not sure if Neri has the tools to beat a prime Inoue at this point.

Ain't that too soon for him? I bet Inoue wants to keep on fighting and cement his legacy in boxing but I think his team should be smarter when they accept contracts. I understand that he's still young and at his peak but they should be looking after their fighter's longevity too. Maybe take a a page from Mayweather's book on how he negotiates and leverage his position.

Inoue should now be getting some exposure outside his country since he was winning some fights in a flawless way to win a boxing match and get those belts easily. Just because they wanted him to still fight in Japan, they even lifted the ban just for the fight to happen there.

I wonder what would be the result again and since this is another easy fight, I am only curious about what round Nery will be knocked out by Inoue. why are they taking it so long to fight, can't they make it possible in March?

If indeed this fight will take place in Tokyo, Japan then that means that Nery ban on fighting in Japan has been lifted, but we don't know why the ban was lifted because in the past there was quite heated conflict or discussion regarding the ban.
Could all this be done because Nery opponent will be Inoue who is great boxer in Japan and maybe all this is also for the sake of Inoue title which will be defended.
Anyone would definitely make Inoue the favorite and of course Inoue chances of winning are wide open, but Nery himself is also pretty great boxer because he only suffered 1 defeat and has quite lot of KO wins.

This is very interesting fight and of course the winner is the undisputed champion, if Nery manages to beat Inoue then this Japanese boxer will lose his record as an undefeated boxer as well as the belt he holds.
For now, I still think that Inoue will be much more dominant, but we have to see in the future how Nery will prepare.

Another weird thing is that he will put everything on the line here? I thought that Nery is only mandatory for his WBC belt. But it seems that other governing bodies as well has given the go signal in this fight to have their belts also put in the line.

Nevertheless, we haven't seen anyone had the blue print to beat Inoue, not even the best 3 fighters in this division, including Casimero and Akhmadaliev. And so I don't see Nery pulling a upset and again, this fight might not get over 10 rounds. I'm seeing the over and under at 7.5 rounds. ML? Nah, it's not going to be appealing to us, could be per rounds but it's going to be hard to predict which round is Nery going to be knockout or stop by Inoue.

He wasn't damage on his last couple of fights, he beat Donaire in 2 rounds, same with Fulton and Tapales, it didn't last the full 12 rounds. He might have been hit combine in those 3 fights by just 10% or even less power shots from those fighters.

So he is still fresh and for sure the Japanese body will not allow him if they see that Inoue is not fit to fight in May. Just like during the prime years of Canelo where he fight at least 3x in a given 12 months run. Not sure if we can compare him against Mayweather as Floyd carefully picks the fight he wants.

Yeah, he finish most of his fights in the early rounds, so he wasn't relaly challenge to his limit yet. Honestly, I feel that we will see a similar outcome on his previous fight in this particular fight as I don't see Nery a real good fighter that is on the level of Inoue. This will be this coming May, hopefully Inoue will also consider fighting Casimero before this year ends.

My prediction here is KO, as to the question if it's early or late rounds, that depends on how aggressive Nery is, the more aggressive he is, the riskier he will take.

This is still rumored since there's no final confirmation that they would have a fight this year. But since Nery's name is in discussion then provably there are people working to make this fight to happen. And again expect that Inoue will be fan favorite between this fight since there are still so many people got hype for the record he get and also his latest win against Tapales.


No, No we can't compare him to Floyd yet since the only Hall of famer he defeat is only Donaire while Floyd he beat a lot of them also together with money since this is the discussions floating on media since they compare Inoue to them.

If Inoue could defeat more hall of famers and also fight outside of his comfort zone then maybe there will be lot of fans will get convince that he's in line with Mayweather and Pacquaio.

I like that some of the articles I've read regarding this shows that Nery is already doing some rounds of trash talking and selling the fight. We all know that Inoue is still miles ahead of Nery even though the Mexican has a powerful left hook that, if landed, can result to a KO. Inoue's speed and power is currently unmatched in the super bantamweight division, and this fight will just further seal his reign in the division before he decides to step up (if that's going to happen).

I get that he hasn't receive much damage and he'll most likely win in a dominant fashion against Nery on May but the wear and tear from all the preparations leading to each fight is going to affect him sooner or later. He probably has a great conditioning coach with him but let's keep in mind that Inoue is also 30. It won't be the same as he grows older so I think they'll need to rethink how often they accept future fights.

He can also win this fight, no doubt. It's good that it will happen early, hopefully this means that one more fight for Inoue this year defending his title, and I really hope that he will eventually accept the challenge of Casimero so people will stop speculating about Inoue's dodging game on Casimero.

Currently, here's the ranking of Casimero.

#7 in WBC, #5 in IBF, #3 in WBO.
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

Maybe he does have a chance. He is also a champion and has knocked out lots of fighters. The only worry on his team is that the bout is going to be in Japan.
One knockdown of him and he's gonna be broken ready to give up. The team will decide to just stop the fight to save Nery. But he might get cheered if it's going to happen in MGM at least a few Latinos watching him will give him the pride to stand for his will.

I voted for Inoue by KO.

Nery is good, but I don't think he can stand against the power of Inoue. Not just that, but if you observed, Inoue's IQ is also underrated as we can only see his power. But if you look at his last fights, he sets a trap like in the Fulton wherein Stephen thought that he will go to the body and then boom, straight in the face. Same with Tapales, he let Marlon get confident early and then he scored a knockout in the 4th.

So I'm seeing the same might happen to Nery or even worst, Inoue winning by KO earlier if Nery chooses to engage Inoue as that is his style. And his power might not put any dent in Inoue.

I thought that this fight will be in US at least neutral grounds for Inoue or Top Rank given him exposure to the US fan based and not just be comfortable in fighting in his home country. And what's odd is that the Japanese is known to have that discipline and mentality to stick to their words, honor it.

So it really surprises me to see that they allowed a fighter that they ban because he was caught with Peds to be able to fight in their country just because it's Inoue. Anyway, in paper it might be good to see that he is fighting a former champion, but it doesn't matter. I think Inoue will retain all his belts and Nery not surviving the whole fight as others said.

I had the feeling they would lift Nery's suspension. This will be a massive fight in Japan and they don't want to lose that revenue to another country. Nery has shown some weakness when he is hit to the body and that is probably where Inoue will be targeting. Despite having an impressive record, I don't think Nery has the style to beat Inoue. Nery is more of a brawler, Inoue should be able to outsmart him. I'm predicting a late body shot KO.

Yes, it was already lifted and was reported.
Former WBC champ Luis Nery has suspension lifted, will fight Oct. 6 (https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/24770405/luis-nery-wbc-suspension-lifted-return-ring-october)


So no more speculation now, this fight is going to happen as no more hindrance that would likely stop it. However, I'm afraid that Nery's ban being lifted was not really a good news because he will suffer his biggest loss in boxing in the hands of Inoue in Japan.

This guy has 1 loss via KO from    Brandon Figueroa.

This will be a boring fight because it will be again in Tokyo and the opponent is not very exciting for the fans. However, this might be a good chance for John Riel Casimero to challenge and win against someone who will make him a contender to challenge Inoue for his WBA, WBC, WBO and IBF championships. I reckon with Casimero's personality, if he fights Inoue it should certainly be in Las Vegas.

I dont think so. Fighters in the past has way too many fights in 1 year than todays. Also, Inoue didn't really have any serious injuries or even being hurt from his last fight against Tapales, since Tapales did not make any hard blows on Inoue. So, I guess every thing would be fine considering that the opponent may not be a huge threat against Inoue as well. Nery may have 70% KO percentage, but I don't think it would be enough to take down Inoue.
Honestly, I'm starting to get disappointed with Inoue. He should start climbing weights and fight elite fighters by now, he have been dominating that weight division already and he hasn't even step foot outside Japan for any of his professional matches. I'd honestly want to see Inoue fight in a catchweight with any of the elite fighters like Tanks Davis, that possible though.

It looks like he just wants boring opponents tbh. Everyone wants that Inoue-Casimero fight but I think Inoue management doesn't want that at all or both couldn't have a better consensus. For sure they'll wreck PPV for this fight to happen but they just couldn't make this a reality, what a waste.

Nery is not a boring fighter. Looking at his  record  (https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/611983), you can see that he has 27 wins from 35 fights, and that's a lot of experience with a 77% KO rate. It will only be boring if this will be one sided beat down again, and as what we had witness in the past, Inoue always dominates his opponent, so let's see if Nery is different.

About Casimero, he is not the number 1 challenger yet, but maybe he'll next in line, if Inoue really intend to give him a chance.

Even if the ban is lifted I don't think Nery has a chance against the monster Inoue but what is alarming here is Nery has been accused of using a banned substance.
https://www.ringtv.com/530936-japan-boxing-commission-bans-luis-nery-life/

I've already posted that no one in the 122 lbs can equal Inoue's power and speed, but it's different when his opponent is using a banned substance, I'm sure Inoue's camp is fully aware of this and will take all the necessary precautions for his opponent to comply.

Nery is made for Inoue's style he loves to mix it up but he is slow and does not have good lateral movement I expect Inoue to use his speed to finish Nery, Nery needs all the luck in the worlkd to beat Inoue, who is getting better every fight.

regarding Luis Nery's ban, from what I understand on this article (https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-here-is-everything-you-need-to-know-about-luis-nery-s-two-thousand-eighteen-suspension-from-japan-ahead-of-reported-undisputed-fight-against-naoya-inoue/), his ban will be lifted before the fight, but there was no mention whether the lift of the ban on Nery will be permanent so I assume the lifting on his ban will only be for this fight against Inoue.

I am not familiar with Luis Nery so I am curious how he will fare against "the Monster" Naoya Inoue.

Yeah, I'm referring as well to the fight and not solely to Nery because in my opinion Inoue will dominate this match. Well, I may be biased on who he fights but was just supporting my fellow countryman who happened to not that far away from my hometown and he's quite popular here. He's been itching to fight Inoue, he may talkative and boastful some of the time, but I think he can beat Inoue.

True, as we have followed Inoue's career after winning the WBSS tournament, he always destroys his opponent regardless of whether they have a puncher's chance against him like Donaire, who has one of the most wicked left hook during his prime.

Or a slick American in Fulton, so he has face a lot of styles before and he always comes on top and beating them in fashion, with a devastating knockout. So just like you, I'm also seeing a KO win for the Monster specially if Nery chooses to be aggressive.

When his opponent are in the ring, you can tell that they cannot take the hard punches of Inoue since their style suddenly change, from being an aggressive fighter to a defensive one. And as usual, instead of seeing a toe to toe fight, it will only look like Inoue's opponent only came to survive.

So we can understand the frustration of the fans, they want a fighter that could potentially give Inoue's problem, like matching his skills.

IMO, Casimero had proven it already when he beat Tete when he was a heavy underdog.

Obviously that's what happened. It seems like Inoue's confidence boost a lot when he beats Donaire, and now he has become an unstoppable beast. Inoue can beat Nery,  as we can see on the betting odds, it no different compared to his previous fights, so we can expect the same result.

Fans have still enjoyed his fight as he mostly end it with a KO.
It's just a matter of how long his opponent will survive, just like Tapales, he was too confident before the fight but in the ring, he became a counter puncher who is afraid to punch. See, that's what Inoue can do to his opponent, that's why he is called the "Beast", but Casimero call him as Turtle.  ;D


Yes, but he messed up many chances in boxing, so if he will get a fight with Inoue, it will be him so lucky. ^{(But let's hope)}

Thats a different scenario on which the thing he had made against Tete wont really be something that would be applicable to Inoue. Why? Inoue is smart and really that easy to adjust if ever he would be seeing that he is on disadvantage.Also, this guy do really know on how to make adjustment accordingly. The only thing that i had noticed that on the time that he had stepped his foot into this new weight division is that he did bit become slower and i dont know if someone do notice it out but with the recent fight against Tapales then it is really that noticeable on later rounds. Well, in times of exhaustion then it would really be just that normal
but it would really be just that normal that speed would be affected once that weight become even more heavier which it is understandable.

Fighting against Nery? Im not still that sure but this one would really be more better that against Tapales. He should really be at least careful yet
Nery isnt known to be a shit fighter yet this is also a hard hitter too with having that high KO percentage. Inoue shouldnt really be confident facing this one.

But that was years ago and we haven't seen that kind of Casimero when he went to 122 lbs and his first 2 fights are not that impressive to us fans and maybe this is the reason why the camp of Inoue is not seriously taking him into consideration as Inoue's next fight, he is the 3rd choice by the way. And to make his name in the discussion, Casimero needs a impressive win like a knockout in his next fight.

As for this fight, we haven't seen a fighter that can really match against this version of Inoue.

He is too good that I think he can clean up this division easy and can knockout everyone if he wanted to.

Inoue might not be fighting outside Japan, so for sure the lifting of the ban with Nery is already on process as they are announcing this match.
Wondering as well if Nery will have a match for Inoue which is fresh from the big win. Inoue seems unbeatable as of the moment so this can be an easy bet for many, waiting for the odds to release and will surely place a bet as well.

That is the question for whoever is the head of the Boxing commission in Japan, but it seems that this is already a good and they are going to lift Nery's ban anyways. So the fight is on and maybe they will released a official date once everything has been written in a contract that both parties have agreed.

And as we saw on Inoue, he is unbeatable and when we thought that fighters will at least give him a good test like Fulton or Donaire for instance, it's not even close as he takes control of the fight and knock them out.

And just to cap off Inoue's 2023 campaign, he was name fighter of the year by Ring magazine, https://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2024/01/06/more-sports/inoue-ring-magazine/

The WBC suspension was different from the ban he got from the Japanese commission. The WBC comes off as being biased since fighters from their country always get lenient punishments. Six months is just a normal break in between fights in the current generation. Likewise, the Japanese suspension which was supposed to be for life ended up being meaningless because it was lifted as soon as he became a contender to a Japanese champion. In boxing, rules don't really apply because for the right price just about anybody can be bought.

This does only apply in boxing, even in other sports. Remember that this kind of sport belong to entertainment, and making money is their main priority, so we can't blame them because they see that Inoue vs Nery would be a great fight that will bring money to the promoters. Or maybe this could be their way so Inoue won't be able to fight Casimero which is next in line of Nery?

Another thing, why do this ban have to be lifted just to give way for this fight to happen when it can be outside Japan?

To give way to Inoue's request. The champ can choose which venue and mandate an opponent. Inoue capitalizes on his popularity and promoters favor him as well for he brings the money to the table and I guess it comes with lifting suspensions. He is more comfortable fighting in his own country.

If the Arabs were just fond of little fighting guys, they would have requested Inoue to fight in Saudi offering millions to him like Fury and Ngannou.

Everything would really be depending on money talks on which it would really be just that normal that there would really be sudden adjustments if ever that they would really be able to agree into those terms specially if money would really in between. There would really be no further discussions and it would really be fixed up right away based up on the agreement. Why people do really love for Inoue to fight in other country or venue? They do really think that all of those wins from Japan venue are really that rigged or something that favors him all the time? If we do tend to see all of his performances that do happen into his hometown then it doesnt really have no sense if there would be those people who would really be thinking up that way.

Fighting against Nery? I would say that he shouldnt really be that confident because Nery does have power too and when it comes to speed and stamina then i can say
this guy does have it too. This is why it would be important that he should really know on making out adjustments.

That's one tough question to be answered by the promoters but I don't think the amount of money earned while fighting in Japan is equal or even more than bringing this one to the US. Japanese people are so proud that they get what they wanted and besides Inoue is a local hero for them so they have all the right to enjoy his every fight in their home country.

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I'm not very familiar with Nery's fighting style, but it seems he's got a pretty decent power in his punches. But his winning record is not made up of hard opponents. He will just be an easy opponent for Naoya. If Nery is one aggressive fighter who does not fear trading blows against an opponent, he may will lose the fight in the first 6 rounds. Naoya likes this kind of battle. This is where his monstrous blows are best at and be most useful.

Betting odds will definitely be very heavy in favor of Naoya.

Yes, I would say that he had a good power at this division, but I think his style is perfect for Inoue. He is very much aggressive which Inoue loves to because he can adjust in the fight and then it bring the best on him. Just like in the Donaire fight, in the second fight, Nonito is very much aggressive but Inoue was ready or at least his boxing IQ is there to make adjustments that why he knock him out.


I'm not surprised, fighter of the year honors, no one has developed a blue print yet to defeat him and so he will be the favorite in all of his fights so far. And I think everyone here think that he will continue and win by knockout.

Yeah, the only popular opponent he fought was Brandon Figueroa which he lost via knockout so safe to say that Nery is not as scary as his resume looks. If he choose to go toe to toe with Inoue, this would end early and might be boring to some of us here as this might be a one-sided affair in favor of the Japanese fighter.

Yes, but he loves to throw a lot and so he is a volume puncher and that's why people says that he might have a chance to beat Inoue. But I don't think so, Inoue has matured already and getting better every fight.

For sure, Naoya will be the heavy favorite in this fight regardless on how they are going to hype Nery's as a big puncher. Naoya has been with the best in bantamweight and super bantamweight and he beat them all and make them look amateurish.

It depends on your bet. Lol. If you bet on handicaps, you won't mind if the fight is boring and ends early for as long as your bet wins. And I am guessing that many who will bet on this match will likely avoid moneyline bets as it will definitely not be worth it if you're betting on Inoue. So many bettors including myself will be looking for better odds under Asian total or winner and round range.

I am honestly wondering how Nery will make this fight not one-sided. Whether he runs away and constantly be defensive or he bravely exchanges blows against Inoue, he will be defeated.

For regular boxing bettors, yes, with a Inoue fight, we shouldn't go for a ML bet as it's not going to be appealing and as what others deam, smart money should not go to ML. So I agree that we should be looking like per round range or what specific round should Inoue stop his opponents, in this case, Nery.


Really hard to see it, if he goes toe to toe then he might get knockout early like Donaire. If he started slow and just try to feel the power of Inoue, it might end up like Tapales and Fulton wherein Inoue slowly beat them up and soften them before knocking them down.

I cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe. Donaire is not a volume puncher. He is mostly a counter puncher who just waits for the perfect timing. Donaire doesn't release 4 or 5-punch combinations most of the time.

What I can remember is that Donaire doesn't have good defense. He wasn't there exchanging powerful blows with Inoue. He was there as a target who has already wobbled in earlier punches. He was there deciding not to clinch but not trade blows either. He was really hurt resulting to Inoue encouraged to pursue him relentlessly and end the fight right there and then.

Man, what happened to you?  you missed the biggest fight in the career of Inoue, and that is his fight against Donaire, during their first meeting.

People say that if that fight happened during the prime of Donaire, Inoue could not last 12 rounds as he was badly hurt that fight, in fact he was injured that I believe requires him to undergo a surgery.

Here's the highlights of the fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0L1vYJ43mg

that i could very well agree. in my opinion, donaire really did come close on this fight. he actually was the one who gave a very good fight to inoue. but unfortunately, donaire is not in his prime anymore, he's about to hang up his gloves. anyway, there will always be young bloods who can challenge inoue in the future. the power is not forever. just look at pacquiao, his age also caught him in his last fight. but it was still awesome as he wanted a toe-to-toe fight. not many boxers are very aggressive inside the ring giving what boxing fans clamor for, coz a lot are considered to be technical boxers, worrying every step inside the ring.


as he knows the caliber and status quo of inoue, i don't think nery is just sitting down and watching the days go by. so yeah, i highly believe, he is training hard for this upcoming fight because he is facing the current monster inside the ring. but if i am to bet, i will go also for inoue, but not on the line of who will win on this match, but on the other betting lines with at least good odds and worth betting.

as of 14 voters 12 of us voted for knockout for Inoue and the other 2 is decision also in favor of Inoue meaning all the votes are for the Japanese monster and none is giving something for Nery.

Am not saying that this is a complete win for Inoue but indeed this may be what will happen because I think its not enough for this opponent to take down this monster from Asia at least we are not having one that can beat him these days.

There will be Filipino boxers that could challenge Inoue, but right now, he is slaying Filipino boxers, just like Pacman when he was still on his prime where he was called "MEXICUTIONER" because he KO'd most of the mexican champions that would accept his challenge. Although he already retired, his name will remain as people will not forget the only boxer who is an 8th division champion. Maybe if Inoue can do that, people's admiration will be focus to him.

I have seen some post on Facebook about in comparing into those boxers that they had beaten up in the age of 30, on which you could really see the caliber of Manny Pacquiao comparing to Inoue.
Some are even that telling that mentioning both boxers are really just that not that right or not something worth considering but well they do have their own ways on building up their career.
People cant really just able to avoid on making out some comparison in between fighters knowing that they are really that achieving great into their careers.

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When it comes on against Nery, Inoue should really be that careful. This man is more a power puncher compared to Tapales. When it comes to stamina then its really just that average
but he shouldn't really be that confident when it comes to this manner. Inoue might stay for a while into this weight division before going up again.
I could say and much prefer to see that he would go outside japan into his future fights.

So far this is the result of the poll
Inoue by KO   - 13 (81.3%)
Inoue by decision   - 3 (18.8%)
Nery by KO   - 0 (0%)
Nery by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 16
All of us voted for Inoue to win by knockout or decision, I will be surprised if Nery gets one vote, Nery is good but Inoue is superb I have already said that no one in Super Bantamweight can beat him or even come close to beating him, Inoue will have 2 or 3 fights in the Super Bantamweight before moving up to the Featherweight where the real challenges are.
I'm more excited to see him fight in the featherweight division than here in the Super Bantamweight this is the division where he could establish is legacy.

Maybe he missed that fight and if he could just watch back the old clips of that match for sure he will be amazed of performance done by Donaire. He almost got that kid and if he just didn't got hit badly for sure Inoue will be in danger at that fight. But guess Donaire at that time is starting to be out of his prime that's why Inoue got him and score a TKO on their first meet up.

Highlight of that scene is good but if they are not satisfied with that especially if they are fan of Inoue then maybe they should search the full fight of Inoue vs Donaire 1 and for sure they will be amazed of both fighters performance at that time also we see how bloody the fight is especially for Inoue's side on round 8.

Yes, he broke Inoue's orbital bone that fight, in their first meeting. We can also say that in the second, Donaire tries to go toe to toe as well but Inoue has developed already and his ring IQ is better so he just make a quick work of Donaire and his left hook didn't find it's target on Inoue.

So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Inoue is boxer who truly deserves to be called monster and of course all this is because Inoue managed to get lots of wins without single defeat and he finished more than 70% of his fights by knockout.
Nery might be difficult fighter for Inoue but I also remain confident that Inoue will remain the favorite and whether it knockout win or just decision, Inoue will still be the winner.
Nery is indeed great and strong fighter who only suffered 1 defeat, but in the fight against Inoue he will have second defeat.

That natural because there hasn't been single boxer who can beat Inoue legally or absolutely, that why when he fought against Tapales last December he won and is still an undefeated boxer and has 4 championship titles and is even the undisputed champion.
This has all become clear, strong evidence and is the main reason why Inoue is really the favorite.
Inoue is determined to collect more titles and if that wish is achieved then he will become the greatest boxer not only in Japan but in the world.

Man, what happened to you? Yes, Donaire hurt Inoue, but did you see Donaire ever release a 4 to 5-punch combinations in that fight? Even if he hurt Inoue, which it indeed happened, did Donaire successfully bank on it and threw multiple-punch combinations? The answer is no.

You only need to wake up and watch the fight objectively and without bias to realize that Donaire had already wobbled and even almost went down as early as the second round. It once again happened in the 5th round and Donaire was even sort of saved by the bell. Donaire was eating punches the whole fight.

When Inoue was just standing right there in front of Donaire, were there combinations thrown by Donaire? No. In the 9th round when Donaire wobbled Inoue, how many follow-up punches did Donaire throw? Single-punch haymakers? In the immediate round that followed it, did Donaire build on that advantage or was it even Inoue on the contrary who was busier?

Late in that fight, Donaire was in survival mode already and the fight could have ended with a knockout. And it was Inoue who was the one attempting to end it. Donaire even run away from Inoue and went down not from impact but from pain.

The fight is amazing. Both fighters gave their best and hurt each other, but don't twist it and make it appear as if Inoue was the one schooled by Donaire. Forget about your bias and appreciate the fight fairly.


Lol. I didn't miss that fight. It is either you didn't even watch it or you are just posting just for adding another post.

TKO my ass. Lol. Don't make yourself too obvious in just replying for the sake of making a post.

Ths is not the argument, but this!

Seriously man? Do you even know the meaning of toe to toe fight? No offense but let me take you to this article.

https://sports.yahoo.com/naoya-inoue-drops-nonito-donaire-twice-en-route-to-vicious-2nd-round-stoppage-125056195.html

That was on their 2nd fight, but it's the same on their first, Donaire was still aggressive.

You can argue with Kevin Iole if you want, not me.  ;D

You better go back to my earliest post. You were the one who reacted with exaggeration as if Donaire had the upper hand in their first match against Inoue. Donaire only won 3 or 4 rounds in the majority of the scorecards. But here you are referencing their second fight. Here's your joke:

Me: Hey, Fighter A failed to do this against Fighter B in their first fight.
Natalim: Man, what happened to you? You are wrong. Fighter A did that. Take a look at their second fight. Read this article about their second fight.
Me: Lol!  ;D

But anyway let's probably continue discussing sometime in the future after you've actually watched full fights and not just read articles written by content creators from far-away countries for somebody else.

Sorry OP for off-topic responses. I was just responding to a blind fanboy who was triggered by comments on what really happened.

Stay on the argument please. I just reacted with your post claiming that " you cannot remember Donaire fighting Inoue toe to toe". . I don't questioned who makes more punches or who had the upper hand in that fight FYI.

Don't call me blind please because you are also calling those posters who agree with me that Donaire fought Inoue toe to toe.

So these active posters are blind too?

or do you understand the meaning of toe to toe fight?

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

Inoue is the heavy favorite with the odds interpretation that he is unlikely to lose, so Nery has the challenge here prove to the world that Inoue also has some weakness. The fight is in Japan, all advantage is on Inoue but Nery could make it not necessary anymore if he could end the fight with a knockout.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I cannot think of any fighter that has a chance to beat him in the super welterweight, even Inoue who boast that he can do the job has no advantage against Inoue we will just see Inoue's greatness leading into the upper weight category, we all hope that he moved up he wiped the division and that includes Casimero so no one can say that Inoue did not gave him a chance.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.



Wrong divison, Inoue is still fighting in the Super bantamweight, and I doubt Inoue will reach the Super welterweight as he is stoo small for the champions.

He said in the last 3 years. The first fight of Inoue vs Donaire happened last November 7, 2019, so he is right. The 2nd fight was in 2022 where Inoue just dismantled Donaire and could probably resulted to his silent retirement because we are not seeing him now although he hasn't announce it officially yet.

Maybe you forgot about the year, time flies fast, right?
Check here https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/628407

Perhaps prior to the fight, everyone thought that they will have a good chance against Inoue. So in paper, Fulton as a 2 belt champion is touted to be a boxer that might beat Inoue's style. And then Tapales too, he said before the fight that he is really on what Inoue will give to him. But the fight was not even close. Maybe it's just way to sell the fight but for bettors, Inoue is really very hard to beat.

And even if Nery has a good knockout percentage, Inoue is very hard to hit to even score a knockout against him as Inoue has a good defense too and his chin has never been really crack by anyone.

They tried to play the trash talk before the right but during the actual, they looked like a punching bag to Inoue. As for this division, there's no one that could really match his talent, but there's one boxer I want Inoue to beat and that is Casimero. I know some of you may say that he doesn't deserve the chance, but what I like is that once and for all Casimero will stop the trashtalk once he was dealth with a defeat.

But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.



As I stated, no boxer could match Inoue in this divsion yet, and I don't see Nery as an excemption since he's not a special fighter. Although we can also respect the power of Nery, but in terms of quickness, that he can't beat Inoue on that.

I agree that this would not be a boring fight for the fans of Inoue and I just don't know how Nery would handle Inoue's bombs if he decided to go toe-to-toe early. The thing is, boxers always have a game plan but that changes whenever they are hit hard.

Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

Yes, Mike Tyson's famous quote.


It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.

Maybe that's the right strategy for Nery, better gamble on being agressive, either lose early or win early than let Inoue dictate the fight and will eventually make Nery the same with other fighters that changes their style from beting aggressive to defensive just to survive the fight. Nery could use his ample time to train harder as a win here is going to make him very popular. They say it's almost impossible to beat Inoue at this division, so Nery should make that as an inspiration to train, gets his stamina ready as it's never impossible to beat a boxer even if how strong he is, afterall Inoue is still a human.

Pressure offense, a slugfest, that will destroy the defense of Inoue as for sure he would accept that challenge, but Nery has to improve his speed so he'll be able to catch Inoue good.

Mike Tyson summarized the behavior of every boxer and that every boxer has a plan until they get hit in the face, all of Inoue's opponents have a plan and they will do everything to implement that, that's what they all say during the press conference, unfortunately on fight night after they get hit they change their plans so from planning to be aggressive they become defensive and they just wait and become tentative.

I expect Nery to lay out his plan I'll be taking notes on the plans that he is going to lay out so we can see if he can implement them on fight night or if he will just be another planner outside the ring and a runner inside the ring.
But for me, Nery will have no resistance against Inoue, Nery is not a power puncher and he cannot be considered at the level of Casimero or Donaire so it's going to be an easy win by Inoue here.

OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

In any fight, there would really be always the chance of upset on which this is something that Inoue should really be careful with. The sense of being careless? there should really be no room for error
because once those punches would be landing up, considering that Nery is also a power puncher or have those solid shots then it would really be that so dangerous that he would really be letting his
guard down. Speaking about having a poll then it wont really be that a bad idea considering that despite for Inoue to be heavily favorite but still there would really be those people who would really be
voting for Nery on this one, just like into that previous fight of Inoue that there's still someone who do hope for some upset but of course it didnt happen. Even we do know high likely for the outcome or result but its fun to see those polls somehow.

Unless he is really a fan of Luis Nery, he might be the single one to vote for him in this community. In the Tapales fight, if I'm not mistaken, there could be some who voted for Marlon and think that he can have that lucky punch to stop Inoue, but it didn't happen. Inoue is very smart and have a underrated boxing IQ.

Because we all see his power, but we don't see how he fight smart, reading his opponent in the first couple of rounds and then once he figure them out, he will go and soften them before putting a late show of numerous knockdowns and the knocking out his opponent good. Nery might have the power, and he could touch Inoue, but I doubt that he can knock him down, IHMO.

This is another Inoue show, and it will end in knock out just like he did against his last opponents the division is kinda boring now because of lack of opposition because Inoue is just too good for that division.
After this fight, he needs to move up, or at least fight Casimero to have a little bit of excitement in his fights, the featherweight is where his mettle will be tested because fighters like Navarette and Lopez can take big punches, and we can also see if Inoue can take his power in the upper division just like what Manny Pacquiao did.

It might be, and as much as we hate to see it like that, but it is what we call dominate and cleaning up that division in no time. He has beaten the 2 champion already and Nery is just another rank boxer that he needs to defeat in order to cement his legacy. Next could be Akhmadaliev and then that's it, he had clean it up and should move higher and chase for more greatness.


At 126 lbs, We have Vargas, Luis Lopez, and then Rafael Espinoza. But then again, this boxer is natural 126 lbs and much bigger than Inoue. That's why this division if he decided to move up, will be his biggest challenge and it will really show how Inoue is made of, just like when Manny is moving up and facing bigger guys. To be fair though, Manny was not as dominant when he moves up, he didn't carry the power, but the speed and volume is there that's why he was able to defeat them while moving up. You can hear comments of those boxers that he defeated, it's not about the power of Manny, it's the speed that kills them.

So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.


https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. Reymart Gaballo Yoshiki Take.

Finally there's already an official date. it's just sad that Gaballo has been scratch  as he was replaced. Well, I think we know that it's still going to be an obvious win for Inoue here as he has not experience slowing down yet, and I don't think Nery is capable enough to beat Inoue especially in his territoty.

I am not familiar with Yoshiki Take, but I pressume he is a Japanese and it's the Japanese people who are making it possible to have 2 boxers to represent the country in this particular fight. If Yoshiki Take will win, then there will be 2 Japanese champion in the bantamweight division.

^^ As far as I know there are already 2 champions in the bantamweight division, Naoya Inoue's brother, and then Junto Nakatani beating Alejandro Santiago. And if by chance Take will win against Moloney, it will be their 3rd champion in the 118 lbs. So that is a huge accomplishments as far as Japanese boxing goes and as I have previously, this could be their golden era.

But looking at the rankings, Take is rated #10, so he might be relatively unknown boxer unlike Nakatani and Inoue.

However, he has the homecourt advantage on Moloney here, as the fight is going to be in Japan. Just too bad for Reymart Gaballo, perhaps he will get the winner here so that he could still pursue his dream to become a champion.

I know, many Filipinos are shock that suddenly Gaballo was scratch and no longer fighting for the belt. But it's all business, Top Rank wanted all the money here so they chooses less risk big reward in fighting Take in Japan. He is way below in rankings, unlike Gaballo although the underdog but has the potential to make a upset. Moloney though has duck Inoue and now Gaballo, so that could be a consolation for Filipino supporters as Top Rank doesn't want their champion to face them.

I'm sure Bob Arum know's it very well so they chooses Take, take the fight in Japan and if by chance Moloney will retain his belt and maybe chase for bigger fights in Japan next again with either Nakatani or Inoue for unification, clever plan by Uncle Bob.

This fight is approaching,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/08/VWc8C.png

https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

And as I check the odds, Nery is a huge underdog, 7:1. I'm not surprised though, Inoue is really on his prime and we don't see anyone at 122 lbs that can beat him. Even our favorite boxer Casimero, can't last the full 12 rounds in my opinion.

So if Inoue stay here for at least a year or two, he is going to clean up this division for good.

@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

Maybe the interest of people is less for their fight since there's no clear indication before that their fight would proceed but since right now the discussions towards their fight against Nery is floating up and there is a schedule has been  set that's why maybe he give an update regarding on this match.

But for saying he's doesn't have the same popularity as Pacman then we can agree to that. Some people compare him to the legend but in reality his so far to achieve that. He select his opponent and he didn't go out on his comfort zone. But if he can able to go to US to fight those big names on industry and get an outstanding win maybe those people who doubt about his legacy will totally agree that he's the nearest boxer who can break the record of Pacman or maybe became more better.

But who he will fight, in his division when he is the king of all the organizations, the closest one so far is Nery, but when he steps into the Featherweight Division things will be interesting and exciting, as the featherweight is loaded with tough fighters.

If he decides to go further like Manny Pacquiao did he will be on the biggest challenge, the Featherweight, Lightweight, and Welterweight will have a lot of challenges so the biggest question is can he hold on to these divisions?

I agree, Inoue has face the best of this division has to offer, Fulton, Tapales and now Nery. He just needed Casimero in his hitlist and then he complete cleaning up this division. This thread is only 4 pages before the OP has put this very early and we must have forget about this fight because there are big fights that is coming as well. But I do agree that Inoue should step out of his comfort zone and fight in the US.


It will be a big test for Inoue at 126 lbs if he decided to move up. Still there are news that him and Tank Davis is possible for 135 lbs but let's see. I think this could still be considered as a great fight for Inoue.

Tank vs Inoue will be one big fight I think the whole of Japan will fly wherever the fight will be. And this will really be a big money. At 135lbs, Inoue will still be a fast fighter and can fight toe-to-toe with Tank. However, they will not likely make this fight happen until there is a good reason for one to be thrown out the window.

I wonder if Inoue wants to go further how many years before that materialized, he will have his hands full fist in the featherweight division, before all talks about Tank and Inoue, he should talk fighters in the Featherweight unless he skip this division and go headed in the Lightweight.

He only needs to add 5 kilos and if he can take his power in those divisions he has a chance to win more titles in many divisions, I think he has a good chance in the Featherweight

^^ If I'm not mistaken, Brandon Figueroa has been calling Inoue at 126 lbs and all those champions have been taken notice already that there could be a chance that Inoue will go up again and challenge them in the future.

We really don't know yet, but if we look at Inoue's frame, he could easily add 4 more lbs to his frame or he could be walking at 126 lbs or more in off season so I think there will be no problem for him. And the power though, he could be more powerful when he goes up in weight, similar to Devin Haney wherein he was not known to be a big puncher at 135 lbs, but when he moves to 140 lbs, he knock down a supposedly power puncher in Regis Prograis.

If he is willing to stay, this 3 fighters,  Akhmadaliev, Casimero, and Sam Goodman and then that's it. He clean up the division and go south again at 126 lbs.


I don't think he can go as high as welterweight though, Featherweight/Super Featherweight could be his last stop. It will be a hard task for him to challenge the champion of featherweight as majority of them have physical advantage on him, unlike in 118-122 lbs, he has all the advantage, like height, speed and power.

We can wish that this fight is going to happen in the future, just like when we thought that Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar Dela Hoya is not going to happen because Manny is too small. But it did materialized thanks to Larry Merchant for initiating this.

So that could happen though, and if I'm not mistaken, Leonard Ellerbe also talks about this fight and he said that the weight different is too big.

For Inoue, he will have to go as far as 130 lbs to see if he can still be consistent with power and speed at this weight class.

Inoue is just simply getting high improvement in his every fight and this one will also held inside Japan this is his comfort zone which will give him a huge advantage and will gonna make him easily win this one. Nery on the other hand, should come up with a surprising technique that would gonna surprise Inoue and will catch him unguarded with a unique kind of strategy that will surprise him but I doubt that would gonna happen since they have countless intelligent inside the training gym, especially in Japan and that would not be possible to surprise him anymore and he gonna be ready whatever that is.

No doubt that he's improving time after time but with the venues that he's agreeing with where his matches are going to happen, this is what makes other fans off a bit of him. There's a reason why he wants to box at most times inside his territory and country and that's a boost for his career and certainly, it's all about the cheer of the people that he's getting and the confidence that he's getting. I wonder if any match of his goes out Japan, will he able to win it? It's like always the home court advantage that he's getting but that's far from being skilled. Because no doubt that Inoue sure is a skilled and undefeated boxer.

Nery has only 1 loss and 0 draws and then this kind of record is one of the best professionally. Will Nery going to give Inoue with his first loss? We don't know but I agree to you that he should plan well and I think that with all of the matches that he's got, he's going to come prepared against Inoue and even with that, the monster will always be consistent with all of his stance and has always been careful with all of the matches that he's got and so with this upcoming one.

That's what Nery is preparing to do, in this article he was quoted saying that he did not consider Inoue an extraordinary fighter.

Luis Nery Calls Naoya Inoue ‘Overrated, Overconfident and Ordinary (https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-nery-calls-naoya-inoue-overrated-overconfident-ordinary[/url)

Although the boxing community thinks differently he will find out on the fight night if he is an extraordinary or just an overrated fighter, I don't think Nery is the one who can deal with Inoue his first loss, he just doesn't have the skill and the power to do that, Marlon Tapales is stronger and skillfully than Nery that's my assessment, but let's see in the fight night.

That's okay, if that's what he thinks about Inoue that's totally fine as he's entitled for his opinion and as the opponent of Inoue, he should give himself some confidence that Inoue ain't that strong. He's just going to see it when both of them are inside the ring already. We as fans understands how strong Inoue is and how he has beaten the shit out of his former opponents. We will see if his opinion about him being overrated is real or surreal.

Despite that Tapales lost against Inoue, he was even praised on how tough he was. He just can't go with continuous jabs against Inoue and he should do that and I think during the fight, he was just looking for some jackpot and lucky punch but it didn't happened. Still, props to him for being strong and tough and he doesn't need to prove himself anymore against Inoue.

Everyone is very confident, and the closest that could have been Inoue is the Filipino Flash, Nonito Donaire. But Donaire is on the path of going down and losing his prime years already. And with that, I think a prime Donaire will beat anyone in 122 lbs not name Inoue.

So as much as Nery think he even has equal chance to beat Inoue, this is like a "miracle" if he upset the Japanese monster.

What I like to see is Casimero vs Nery, at least in my mind this is going to be a competitive fight as both are almost equal. But against Inoue they are not match with the Naoya, too fast and powerful.

Inoue's team mentioned before that they will take 2 to 3 title defenses and then they might consider moving up again to 126. I am also expecting Inoue to move up in weight next year.

The difference though is Haney is still young and he just moved up in his second weight division while Inoue already is 6 divisions above once he enters 126. But it should be doable. However I guess 126 is Inoue's final division as he is already in his early 30s. It will be more risky to continue moving up in weight while fighting bigger and heavier opponents.

As long as the boxer can take his power in the higher weight category that's still fine, it will only be stopped once they can hurt their opponents in their new weight division, like in the case of Canelo against Bivol, so Inoue can challenge himself and go further, until he is stopped by one of the top boxer in that division.

We don't know how far Inoue can go because he is a very disciplined fighter and he has good skills featherweight will be the most challenging division, when Pacquiao was campaigning in the lightweight I thought he could not hold out but he proved that he was an extraordinary until he reaches the super welterweight.

Yeah, I think that is a good strategy on their part, just to let his body settled down a bit in this weight class, and then try to defend it which I think this division still has like 3 good names that Inoue can bet easily before moving up at 126 lbs.

126 lbs could be his final destination as boxers there are well rounded and some of they have physical attributes that Inoue has face like the tall Rey Vargas, or Luis Lopez which body looks very solid at this weight class. So it will be a very big leap again for Inoue going up to Featherweight.

Thanks for this info, yeah I have to look at it, and true, he started at 108 lbs, Junior Flyweight/Light Flyweight and moving up to 126 lbs is already a 6 weight class jump from where he started his career.

And then 4 divisional champ, maybe going up will be his 5th championship. Having a knockout ratio of 90% in championship fight, that another record as we haven't witnessed that kind of winning in championship in a dominating fashion.

Even if he is so discipline, his body has limitation as how far he can get it to mature and put added poundage. Manny is very different, it was like his genes is build for boxing. I will agree that maybe at 126 lbs, Inoue could have pushed his body already.

But let's see if he moves up in that division and see how his performance is. Maybe there is power still in both hands, but the competition is obviously getting harder and tougher and at 5'5 in height, he could be physically at a disadvantage.

While the match hasn't happened yet, they've got plans already. I guess that they're confident that Inoue is going to win easy against Nery but with that confidence, doesn't mean that they're going to go easy with his training.

That's why he has to do it as soon as possible when he's done with these matches. More title defenses and moving to the next weigh for him to have this undefeated record on history.

It's probably boring on the division that he's in when no one can beat him.

They could really be very confident here, Inoue has the best record in a championship fight and the odds Nery just like the rest of Inoue's opponent is a huge underdog. I think the camp of Inoue is not going to overlook Nery, we have seen him pushing himself in training to the point that sometimes he got injured and have to postponed the fight.

We will see him at 126 lbs, and possible next year. I think he scan still be as competitive to that weight class.

Just a matter of time before he can adapt adding 4 lbs in his small frame.

That might be his last flight before he retires or else he'll not be contended if there's no thrill to that next weight division that he's moving.

But before we talk about that, let's wait until this match ends as Nery no doubt is the underdog on this match. Or as fans, we're just also confident at all on how this match will end.

With that, we have to wait in less than a month.

The only thing I doubt about Inoue is what will be his performance outside Japan since he always fight inside his homecourt which give him advantage. Maybe if he can able to fight on US and take those big opponents then maybe we can really compare his greatness to Pacquiao just like what other people say that he is more better than the legend. Many is really built different since he accept those big challenges on his career and we can say that they defeat those big names on the industry that's why he became well known and the only 8 division champ in history of boxing.

But lets try to see on what Inoue could able to do if he can still dominate if he go up. But its undeniable that he is so good, he just need to prove that he's more good by try to get out on his comfort zone and bet those well known guys in this era.

He fought a few fights outside of Japan, and if I'm not mistaken, including the WBSS. But I do agree that if he really wanted to reach out and become a global superstar like what Manny did, he could fight out of his comfort zone and go to the US and see how boxing fans are going to love him.

But it seems that Bob Arum can't convince him, and so he let him decide to fight in Japan for now. Instead of losing his prize pupil, and probably the Japanese culture has something to do with it and just remain inside. Hopefully at least one of his bigger fights if he moves to 126 lbs should be in the US.

As bookies are clearly having Inoue as the heavy favourite, if you do want to bet, find another betting line like what round will it end or how, rather than bet on the major betting line with Inoue as winner at 1.07 odds. Even the betting line of will the fight go the distance is just 1.14 at stake and so with others, so bookies are not expecting this fight to last.

Going up to another weight division is no easy feat. It depends on how Inoue can cope up easily to such weight change without affecting his boxing strengths and skills. He is still far from his retirement I believe, so he may really go up in terms of weight division in the near future.

There's a very slim chance that a boxer which Inoue would fight will last in the ring. Last time I saw Inoue had some trouble but was able to make an adjustment was with Donaire, but the rematch was too easy for him as Donaire got knocked out. Inoue just got better and better in every fight, so I think if Nery will remain aggressive, he would also suffer a devastating KO from Inoue, that body shot though. 

Any odds below 1.50 is not attractive to me, so  I would just wait until the fight is very close so all the markets will be available, maybe Inoue winning by KO in just 1-3 rounds, it's sure gonna have a very attractive odds.

It's already out,

The over/under round is 6.5, I think that is a good round to begin with, they've at least given Nery 6 rounds to convince us if he will last or not against the power of Inoue. And the odds is 1.85, that is good enough and very appealing already.

But for more risk taker out there, and I know a lot here might go with this,

Nery, Luis By Decision 15.00.

Huge odds if Nery can survived. Tapales almost did it as he gets into 10 rounds. So just a matter how strong Nery and if he can go full 12 rounds against the Monster.

Inoue is fighting in a stadium with 50k capacity. Smaller fighters just don’t draw those kinds of crowds anywhere else in the world. Inoue has fought outside of Japan several times. It is not a matter of not wanting to fight outside of his home, that’s just where it makes the most financial sense to stage his fights. For example, we can see that the Garcia vs. Haney fight is struggling to sell tickets because neither fighter has a large fanbase in New York.

Financially, it make sense for Inoue to fight in his own country because he has a big fan based. And we understand that there are a lot of good Japanese fighters not just Inoue in this time, but they all fought in Japan as well. But as this sports is global, as a boxer you have to think of fighting outside your comfort zone and be in the US. Canelo was unknown until he fought in the US vs Floyd and after that he never went back to Mexico until the John Ryder fight. Haney vs Garcia will do good I think, most likely by now his fans has no choice but to travel to New York to watch the fight although Ryan Garcia said that he still wants the price of the ticket to be lower as what is being offered by their sponsors.

Inoue should follow now that he is still on his prime. he can make a lot of good fights in the US with better venue. I don't think he can't win in the US as he already had fights before but fighting a championship in Japan only will only limit his opportunity to make good money. Inoue has the potential to reach what Pacman had achieve, it's just that he doesn't take a lot of risk and he value so much his undefeated record.

He is with the top Rank, I'm sure Bob can market him in the US but I guess his camp just want to protect his legacy as having a pound for pound like Inoue is not something they enjoyed most of the time, I mean I haven't known a boxer before from Japan who is as accomplished as Inoue now.

He is co-promoted by another Japanese manager, but yes he is with Top Rank but I don't think that Arum are forcing him to go and box in the US unlike Manny Pacquiao. In this stage he could really reach what Manny had done and even more. Tyson himself says that Inoue is better than Manny, but he refuses to fight in the US so we won't see how Americans are going to embrace him.

And most likely why he is not in the top list of pound for pound, although that list could be debatable. But unlike Manny during his prime and winning in the US, he become #1 for years. Maybe the camp of Inoue will go to the US once they go up in weight class at 126 lbs.

Regarding Inoue's debate if he should go to the US and fight

https://twitter.com/ProBox_TV/status/1778842444185948200

This is Porter Jr, point, but just like the rest of you, we could agree on what Porter says here. Inoue needs to get out and be uncomfortable and see how he respond. He has been contented fighting in Japan. So you listen here and share your thoughts.

There is no denying that to be a great boxer and cementing his legacy, he will have to cross that border to the US and fight and let's see how he will fair with the Americans. He could beat them all for all we know and what manner.

But the thing is that we don't know how Inoue is when face unfamiliar situations, maybe he had feel this before when he fights in the US and that's why he doesn't want to experience it again.

For Canelo it is easy to become a star in the United States because there is already a huge Mexican population and also he fights is states like Nevada, California and Texas, which are close to the border and have lots of Mexican tourists. Canelo is more popular in the United States than any American boxer, so it is practically a hometown fight when he fights in the US.

Asian fighters don’t have that same demographic advantage, where they can easily become major stars in the US. Pacquiao has been the rare exception, but this was because he was fighting in the same division as Barrera, Morales, and Marquez.

Boxing is also becoming more globalized thanks to the proliferation of streaming services and investments from foreign governments. This is why we see Lomachenko fighting in Australia, Fury and Beterbiev in Saudi Arabia. The US market’s relevance has been in decline and it is no longer obligatory to fight there to prove you are the best.

This is one of the best way to know if inoue can release the monster inside him if he gonna fight outside his country cause Japan is his comfort zone so he can go wild in the ring. But one thing for sure Inoue can handle this fight as we all know that he is one of the best fighter in the world of boxing. So in this moment he can make more things difficult to his opponent he win in this fight . And if this will happened then he will gonna visit other country and fight.

So far the toughest challenge Inoue experienced was his first fight against the legendary Nonito Donaire and it was also in Japan. Inoue passed that test with flying colors. So it shows he can adjust and handle very tough situations. And he just became better after that. But I expect his body to start diminishing slowly as he age.

All of Inoue's fights outside Japan were dominant victories and ended in knockouts. I think Inoue is willing to travel everywhere as shown in the past. But Bob Arum and ESPN has to give higher purse if they want Inoue to fight outside Japan because the country is also very rich and is capable of bringing big events at home.

There's no problem with money as Inoue is very popular now, he already build himself fighting in his country and has become a top pound for pound fighter I think he is already the number 1 now, so there's no reason his fight won't sell in the USA because he is already popular. If he would move up, I hope he'll start fighting outside in Japan as that's best way to achieve greatness when you have a good record and at the same time the world knows you, just like MP.

For Inoue to become a star boxer he needs to come to the US, that's what former World Champion Shawn Porter in an interview and in response to that Inoue has this to say.


Does Naoya Inoue need to fight in the US? Pound-for-pound boxing star is unconvinced (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/does-naoya-inoue-need-fight-us-pound-pound-boxing-star-unconvinced/fa588e91d280d69295101a07)

The same article also posted that Inoue already fought in the US three times, for me, Inoue is already a superstar and he need not go to the US to prove something his records and the names he has on his records speak for himself.

And besides it is not only in America where you can make a lot of money, UK, Japan and now Saudi Arabia can offer the same like what the US promotions can to aspiring and fully established boxers.

I would agree that money could be what holding Inoue's to fight outside Japan. But maybe what fans and other former boxer want for him is to be expose with different audience. Again, we don't want him to be compare to again Asian great, Manny Pacquiao. But Manny took the hard road and make a name for himself by fighting bigger names in the US.

And now that he is in the peak of his career, he should expose himself to the US boxing fans. Yes, there are Saudi and other nations that he can fight, but there is no denying that US is still the home of boxing.

There is no problem with money but if Inoue is offered $5 million by Top Rank and $7 million by Ohashi then obviously we know which offer we pick. IIRC, Inoue's fights aren't PPVs so there is no leverage fighting in the US with a lesser purse. Bob and ESPN has to beat the Japanese sponsors' offer if they want Inoue's next fight to happen on American soil.

Exactly. Same reason why Anthony Joshua does not need to go to the US because he is already filling stadiums in the UK. Rich countries that are also fond of boxing like UK, Japan, Saudi, etc, are capable of outbidding American promoters and networks.

Honestly, I like how Bob Arum hates PPVs. No PPVs means ordinary fans around the world can watch big fights for free or with less fees. This is probably the same reason why ESPN and Bob can seldom beat Inoue's local promoter although I don't think his fights are even PPVs in Japan. It's more on giant companies in Japan willing to sponsor and fight fans willing to buy expensive tickets for their local hero.

The US is just the biggest economy and the biggest boxing market in the world which is why most big fights happens or should be televised in the US. Pacman, Loma, Canelo, Usyk, etc. came from developing countries which is why they need to travel outside of their countries.

If Bob believe that Inoue could be better than Pacman and migh become a 9 division champion, then he should be paying him high and bring the fight to the US. We are talking of less than $10 million here, I think that is too low because Inoue is an exciting boxer, so he can easily attract fans to buy for PPV subscription.

Just take the Pacman vs Mayweather fight, ... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr._vs._Manny_Pacquiao#:~:text=The%20fight%20grossed%20more%20than,grossing%20more%20than%20%24160%20million)

Inoue is worth $100 million i think. As long as he could get a big fight then that will happen but it will nto happen if he stays in Japan.

Definitely Inoue could make that amount of money if he continues to move, but with the current amount he is making, I think he is already satisfied since at the current weight where he is a champion, there's not much money here. Maybe if Inoue will try to move up in weight again, that's the time that he'll have more fights in the USA, but they need to make it faster to take advantage on Inoue's prime, otherwise, they won't be able to break their goal which is to be the 9th division champion to break what Pacman has achieve.

But seriously, does anyone here believe on Bob Arum's comment? Can Inoue be better than Pacman in terms of achievement in boxing?

It remains to be seen if he can break Pacquiao's and that is how he performs in a division that is talent-laden which is the featherweight and the lightweight where big names are battling for their legacy and Inoue's name will not pop up in their talks, he may be the heavy favorite in the Bantamweight but do you think he will be against Haney or Tank Davis.

It's a long shot it's just unfortunate that Pacquiao and Inoue did not meet in their prime but if ever they meet Pacquiao will win the match-up in any weight category they meet, Bob Arum is like that if he is making a lot of money from one boxer he will say the best description, he did it on Pacman and all the other boxers he manages.

It's unlikely that he'll break the achievement  of Pacman because Inoue stays long in a certain division and will wait until he become an undisputed champion. In fact, he is already an undisputed champion in the super bantamweight and yet he is still not moving up. Well, hopefully this will be his last fight because the more he moved, the bigger the challenge he'll surpass.

if he'll move to 126 lbs, I think he can still become an undisputed champion, but at 135 lbs... it's where I can say his chance is 50-50 because Davis and Stevenson is in this division.

That's why we should not easily be convince. Inoue is undoubtedly great, he is called as a monster for a reason, and no one has ever defeated him yet.  I think he is just enjoying the current division where he could really dominate, hopefully he'll take higher risk challenging those great champions on the higher division for bigger paycheck too.

At this moment, he is the closest boxer to surpass Manny if he ever successfully managed to step forward and win another championship belt there and at the same time he unified it all but as we all know, the more you increase your weight, the harder the opponent can be and that's why Manny stop at the Middleweight and he didn't want to depend on his title after he won from Margarito. That's why Inoue takes slowly to go higher and chooses to give others some chance to take the belt from him at their current weight division because his body can't take a sudden weight chance and take a huge power puncher along with their speed.

We can't tell yet how far will Inoue achieve in the sports of boxing. But Pacquiao's achievements were already commendable and I believe, that's hard to surpass at the moment. But we can't say, it is impossible. As long as Inoue is fighting, he has the chance to create his own destiny in boxing.

Manny retired with 62-8-2 record, whereas, Inoue is currently at his 26-0. Basing on these numbers, Inoue has still a lot of fights in his career to tackle, or belts to acquire, to match with Pacquiao's numbers. Not considering the belts he got throughout the years. So this is yet to see for Inoue...

It's hard to surpass but it's not impossible the biggest question is can he bring that speed and power while going up, Pacquiao reached the 8 division title because he carried that speed and power in all the divisions that he conquered, but Pacquiao time was very different we have a lot of talents in this era better than Pacquiao's era, can he keep up with he like of Ennis Boots or Crawford.

Inoue will have to wait for these fighters to be past their prime to fight them and Inoue is already 31 the division where he will likely get a lot of challenge is the Lightweight division, so let's see in the coming years.

I have read up somewhere that Arum is really that rooting for Inoue to be more better that MP and becoming that 9 world division champion on which im not saying that it would really be impossible
but there are tons of words or sayings that Inoue is really just that good in his own country. If he would really be considering that trying to fly into other boxing rings or countries then people would really be stopping on having those kind of bashes. This might not really be that not connected to this upcoming fight against Nery but if Inoue would win up this one then
its better that he would really be taking up some aggressive stance or path or roadway if he would really be that tending to surpass Pacquiao.

It's not impossible for Innoe to level up the skills that Manny had been achieved for this boxing career. What's most important for him is to go more trainings and strategy to develop in order for him to acquire a lot of power and different techniques to reach that stage of mastery. The undeniable journey of Pacman has proven for years, and if ever this aspiring boxer will take the best chance to next level of challenge I believed he will do the best that he could to defend his title once there's a possible opportunity of another weight division comes.

I really don't understand what you mean, Inoue is already on his prime, he has the power already, so you are telling us he needs more power? How come someone improve power? Different technique? He hasn't lost, so what kind of improvement he will need?

Pacman's path is very different and that's why majority us here believed that it's one of kind that we will see this talent, and we are glad that we witnessed him in our generation. Inoue admitted that he could go as high as 126 lbs and so it means he can't follow what Pacman has done, winning 8 divisions.

Many people says that he is closed with skill set what Pacquiao have and I agree with him. He has a combination with speed and power also his punch is so deadly that's why we can see that there really a better future for Inoue. Maybe the issue now is people want him to fight outside then win a lot of fights out there. If he can able to do that plus he can win more belts then provably that he can come close what achievement gotten by Pacquaio. But for now he need to face a lot of challenges and to many champions to defeat its early to say that he can surpass many since there's a slot of things need to consider and this will be controversial thoughts since to many people will argue with this topic.

Trying out to compare Inoue's speed when he's still in lower division compared into the current one, then we can really be able to see that there's that kind of sluggish when it comes to speed but it is understandable considering that the weight had add up then it would really be affecting mainly the speed but it isnt really that much. We've seen on his last match that he do still have that speed and power.
I dont know on why people do always trying out to compare Inoue to Manny Pacquiao? Why would people letting Inoue to follow Pacquiaos path or career success?

If he does have plans on surpassing Pacquiao then he would be needing to fasten it up, hes already that 30 and a decade wont really be that enough for sure
on trying out to break that 8 weight division kind of record.

More likely he should go up in weight, because that's what separate Manny from the rest of the boxing legends, it's was so controversial that he can fight as high as 154 lbs and beat bigger guys and be called 8 division champ, that is very hard to follow although Inoue might be their along the tracks. But he is still at 122 lbs right not and need at least to go to 126 lbs and see if he has want it takes to still go up in weight class as what Manny did. So by now, he has the power and the speed, but can he go up and carry that one? Manny when he did go up, was not able to carry his power, but since he is a volume puncher, he was able to uses it to his advantage and be the legend that he is known when he retires. So best of luck to Inoue if he wanted to duplicate the feat of Pacquiao.

And that's a lot of pressure on Inoue if he is being compared to the great Manny Pacquiao

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/15/jIIwl.png
https://www.givemesport.com/1708831-naoya-inoue-compared-to-manny-pacquiao-ahead-of-michael-dasmarinas-title-fight/

But I think Inoue is holding his own ground at this point, and he is still undefeated and cleaning up the divisions that he dominated. So there is no comparison whatsoever as Manny is a wrecking crew, going as high as he can.

Nery could be just another test on how great Inoue is, he could adjust in the game itself like in the Fulton and Tapales fight and I think that's what makes Inoue great. The ability to adapt if their plans are not working. And so we appreciate his body of work again and again, and I don't know what kind of strategy Nery will used here to beat Naoya because Inoue is always one step ahead of his opponent.

Lomachenko, Beterbiev and Crawford are also exciting and are future Hall of Famers but they are not big PPV fighters. The same with Inoue, he is popular but I doubt the casuals in Europe and America know him or are interested paying for his fights. His ratings television ratings were probably not that high which is why ESPN and Bob know they cannot offer $10 million or more.

Bob is just promoting Inoue when he said the Japanese can break Pacman's 8-division record. Only casuals will believe that. Inoue's size and age says it all. But both are great fighters. They went separate ways since Inoue is focusing and is spending years on becoming a multiple division undisputed champion. Pacman was never undisputed, he only tried to unify a belt twice and he failed both. Although Pacman was a 5 division lineal champ so that makes him like undisputed if there is only 1 belt in every division.

Yep and it's not Pacquaio goals to unify, when him and maybe Roach and Arum put a plan for him to just go up in weight, and then beat the weakest champion. And it was very effective for Manny as he move up in weight very quick. So it's was a careful match making as well that really catapulted Manny to greatness.

With Inoue, it's different path that they want to go, maybe have the Japanese record in term of belts and not about going up in weight because they know it's going to be very hard for Inoue to accomplished.

The improvement that I meant to be is how he could sustain that ability of not having any loss for such a long time. We can't predict certain situation or scenario to be consistent in this world, even pacman has lost in his fights if you're going to review the history of his boxing career. What I appreciated with Innoe is his humble answers for admitting that couldn't go further on that division but who knows someday he'll try to come up to that point of trying to level up himself just like Manny had.

He doesn't want to push his limit? That's not the character of a warrior, maybe he is just trying to keep his undefeated record and be the best figther in Japan because he keeps fighting in his country while his fans internally are hoping that he'll fight in US to  fight other champions in a heavier division.

Inoue has nothing to prove, he won being undisputed in more than 1 divisions, but it's not up to us to say what we want for him because he knows what he can do only. I'm hoping that he is taking his matter slowly but surely, and he still considering moving up.

Losses though are not a real gauge as how great you are in boxing. Like you said, Manny Pacquiao has many loses as compare to Floyd who is undefeated. But if you are going to look, there are boxing analyst who put Manny above Floyd in terms of greatness.

Even the GOAT himself Muhammad Ali has loses in his record. So he shouldn't be looking to sustain a unbeaten record, he is still dominant, but later we will found out how good he is if he goes up in weight again and chase another belt.

That is not improvement though, on the other hand it will look bad for him if he wants to keep that undefeated record and just fight in Japan. He is already the best fighter coming from Japan and he shouldn't be concern of that because it's like the golden age of Japan boxing as they have a lot of belt holders. If Inoue wanted to raise the bar for Japanese fighter then it is to go out and fight in the US. And if he successfully defend his belt against Nery this May and if he decided to move up in weight class, what a better way to do it that fighting in the US at the featherweight division.

It cant really be avoided for Inoue to be compared to Manny Pacquiao, if we do tend to recall about their meet ups and some prescon about some slight boxing tips and other things then you could really see
that Pacquiao is really that interested into this fighter on which fans would really be trying out to compare their idol into those legendary like Pacquiao. Actually its not really that too far off and if Inoue would really be
taking up on the same step or path he would be taking then no doubt that he would be able to obtain it but basing up on how fast or often his fights been arranged then he would definitely be needing to
fast pace up a bit in climbing up different weight divisions if he wanted to beat up the record.

The right thing to do, make it faster in moving up as time is his enemy here. While he is still on his prime, he should be taking big fights but to make it happen in Japen, that's unlikely. I like to see Inoue fighting Tank Davis,  if he beat Davis, that would put his name at the top and will be recognize as probably the best now. I hope he will take if that opportunity will open up, I know he can because I believe he is quicker and more powerful than Davis, but provided he will be able to carry his power when moving up.

He said though that he will be staying at 122 lbs for sometime, and so this fight he will start to defend his belt and will not be moving up. I like the idea of him and Tank fighting as 135 lbs, that is if Tank will remain at his comfortable weight class and Inoue going up.

It's like a dream fight between Manny and Oscar. But I doubt that it will happened soon as I said, Inoue will stay at 122 lbs for at least this year and then maybe take 126 lbs in a couple of years. And by that time Tank might not have the time and will have to move up to 140 lbs as his body might have problems staying at 135 lbs for two years.

If he had said that then we might not be able to see on breaking those other divisions if he would deciding on taking up some time or stay into the current division that he's in but well its his choice!

He might really be considering on having a retirement with having no loss or defeat rather than on breaking that 8 division champion. If he would really be making that slow movement about
arrangement on his fights the he might not be able to do it just like on what others been saying. If he had plans on being that undefeated then its up to his plans and preference.
Nery is a good fighter but i doubt that Inoue would really be that beating up him up on 5-6 rounds if he wouldnt really be taking any solid punches in body.

I very much agree on Pacman choosing on any opponent without being afraid of receiving a loss. The knockout he received from Juan Manuel Marquez would be enough to cause many boxers retire. However, this has only made Pacman stronger and win more championships in the welterweight division.

@Baofeng. Tank will be big for him, however. Also, he uses the contract agreements to get an advantage vs. his opponents. Naoya should not fight a man like him. The fight I would like to watch for Naoya next is Brandion Figueroa in the Featherweight division hehehe.

If there's more money in Vegas for Inoue then why is it that his Japanese promoter most of the time has bigger offer than Bob Arum and ESPN? That's the reason why Inoue most of the time is fighting in Japan because of the bigger purse than fighting in the US.

I also believe Pacman was willing to fight anyone during his time. The same case with Inoue. Inoue fought 4 times in unification fights while Pacman only tried it twice and he also failed to win them.

Inoue is expected to move up in weight next year. I don't care who he faces but it should be for the belt. Figueroa has no belt at the moment.

There's big money in vegas for heavier division than where Inoue is at now. He needs ot move up to enjoy a big paycheck just like Manny. Before Manny earned good money, he wasn't earning much in a lower division, that's probably the reason why he didn't stay long in a lower division and just keep moving up until he reach his limit. Inoue on the other hand, didn't rush things, it seems like he is already satisfied fighting in Japan with the money he is making, not too ambitious and risk taker I must say.

yeah right, this is the list of the top earnings fo Pacman per fight.


source : https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/manny-pacquiaos-net-worth

As we can see, none on the fights listed are a super bantamweight fight. Maybe what Inoue is earning is bigger than the normal fights of Super bantamweight so he choose to fight in Japan, but if he wants that figures, then he know the answer already.

Pacquiao didn't stay that long in the super bantamweight, his best weight is 147 lbs.

But if we are going to compare him again with Inoue, obviously, the Japanese will have to go up in weight class. Although he is recognized today and could be in the top 5 pound for pound, if he wanted to generate more money US should be his target, plain and simple. He keeps on fighting on Japan, but that should change, in my opinion.

Good to see we are seeing the numbers here. yeah, he should move up if wants to earn $20 million or more. With the type of boxer he is, he is very exciting to watch, as long as he is in the right venue, and right promoter which he is already with now, nothing is impossible for him.

he shouldn't waste the talent he has, find the opportunity to maximize the income more and achieve more as time will come when he aged, his performance will also declined just like MP.

^^ He had a good promoter already, had the blue print to make him successful because he is the one who carried Manny Pacquiao to greatness. But it seems that Bob Arum is being overpowered by the Japanese manager and Arum doesn't want any strife for now that's why he let it be that Inoue fights in Japan.

But there will be time that Arum should insists from Inoue and his camp to move to the US to fight at least once a year. It's not that bad plan to begin with and obviously it will carry a lot of money as well like how Arum carefully guided Manny Pacquiao's career.

There's probably a plan about that already, Bob Arum would certainly want to maximize his money on Inoue but they are just taking it slowly. Inoue is still in his prime and maybe the next time he'll move up in weight, that's where they'll need Bob Arum to do his job.

Let's be patient, maybe after this fight, Inoue will realize that he is ready to move up as he had already dominated the super bantamweight division. I can see the list of champions in the higher division, they aren't even as popular as Inoue, so I'm sure we will see the same scanario like in his current division.

Bob Arum is an experienced person and he is promoter who has created many great fights and has brought several fighters to extraordinary success.
But regarding this fight which will take place in Japan, there is really nothing to worry about because right now sales in this event have reached $20 million and this fight is not only about being able to put the championship belt on the line but also to produce money.
But later it is possible that Inoue will go to the US to have another fight if only Bob Arum still trusts Inoue for the next few fights after finishing with Nery.
This decision has also been well received and avoiding disputes is wise attitude because Inoue himself is great fighter with an undisputed title, he will be able to make lot of money if he keeps Inoue.

I sure they will have good meeting point in the future to be able to build Inoue career for the better, after all Manny Pacquiao could make it big there and it possible that Inoue can do it too.

Yes, but I think Arum should really make Inoue fight in the US. I mean he had sign him in 2019, so that is already 5 years ago and maybe that contract will be up and not sure if Inoue will sign with him again. So that is the difficult part of Arum side, what if Inoue didn't re-sign and opted to go for Matchroom for example.

He had dominated 2 weight class already. But yeah, the true test will be at 126 lbs and we understand why he is reluctant to go up in that weight class as they say that they are going to stay here and defend the belts starting with Nery.

Is that total sales? If then, you have to deduct the purse to be given to Nery and other expenses. But if you compare that fight to the US, maybe Inoue and his team can get it clean at $20 million. So that is a huge step for him instead of just again, fighting in Japan wherein he is a superstar but if he wants to conquer the boxing world, fight of him should in the the other side of the globe.

And there will be a time that the boxers doesn't want to travel to Japan and fight him specially if he goes up in 126 lbs wherein most of the champions are stateside and will not simply be the B-side and just says they will want go to and travel to Inoue's backyard.

Changes such as this one have been occurring for the past few years because other nations are also prospering and right now as we can see, they can promote such high-quality fights in their country and not only there, as of now, we often see some major fights happening in the middle-east as well which wasn't the case before. So as long as they can sell the fights, they don't really care in which country it is as long they secure the safety of the boxers and their earnings. Money can really change almost anything and this scenario is one of the examples we are seeing right now. Pacquiao was a nobody before he came out to the US and everything changed positively for him after that and that was not the case for Inoue right now.

I do agree, but if Inoue wanted to be different from the rest of the boxers and become a legend himself in the future, regardless of the money that he will get from his native country, he should be sort of getting out of his comfort zone and fight in the US.

He could be the next Manny if he will fight in the US and gain a huge fan base there. But I guess it's not their plan to fight outside of Japan as obviously in his last 4-5 fights, all of them are inside his country and most of the time his fans in the US might have missed it because of time difference.

I was scratching my head on what you replied because it would be impossible for Japanese promoters to compete with the type of money inflows that goes through Las Vegas' promoters. However, after asking my friend Google, it appears you are correct heheheh. But this does not imply that Las Vegas has less money. This only implies that Las Vegas has a different type of audience. According to boxing forums, not much of the American audience will pay to watch a main event in the featherweight division or under this. This is also certainly why Stephen Fulton agreed to fight in Japan. There was more money hehe.

And so here is the promotion for this fight,

"Here comes Inoue"

https://twitter.com/trboxing/status/1782422052869382242

And from the looks of it, nobody can stop Inoue at this point. And the chance of Nery as he is a huge 7:1 underdog. Inoue will be as sharp as ever in this fight, still in front of his Japanese crowd and probably Nery is one fighter in his hit list.

@bbc.reporter - I believed the American fans are willing to buy tickets in the lower weight class as long as it is exciting like what Inoue brings if he is going to fight in the US.

Probably could be that the is given more because his opponents chooses to accept that they are the B-side and maybe who knows, Inoue getting as high as 80/20 split in his every fight in Japan and his opponents can't do anything about it.

Inoue can please the Vegas crowd for sure, with his knockout highlight reels. Imagine if him and Fulton fight in the US, that is a American fighter and I think Fulton can bring fans to the arena because he is a great fighter and Vegas appreciates it. But then again, if Inoue can get the same amount and then feels comfortable then why travel to Vegas? Maybe his camp has a different concept.

Nery is really the underdog of this fight knowing that he is the one who came into the place of Inoue and all conditions are in favor with his opponent. I'm not surprise if he got defeated on this match but I would be surprise or a lot of people will blowout on the result if Nery could be the first one to defeat Inoue on their match.

Hopefully we can see the Japanese monster go out on his comfort zone just like what boxing fans want since for sure that there's a lot of American boxing fan or a lot more people in the world would provably buy their their or his upcoming match tickets since the guy is famous and a hyped fighter to watch. If he can prove that he's still dominating even if he's fighting in the US then provably that a lot of people would agree that he's not only great in Japan but rather he can also good in US and can able to defeat those great boxers there.

Although the public think that Inoue is going to win easily but I think this is different from his past fights. If we look at the record of Nery, he has 35 wins and 27 of that are in KO/TKO.... He only have one loss, so I think he deserve some respect. Inoue might still look for an early KO, but I believe Nery will not be in the ring to survive but to win. I like his character because he is aggressive as well, and without enough experience, I think he is ready for this fight.

Even with Nery's record of 27 KO, his only loss comes from a KO, and before that, I think he is floored 3x.  So the concern is whether Nery can receive Inoue's power punches without any issue.  I agree that Nery will come to the ring with the aim of being the first one to beat Inoue but the question is whether Inoue allows such a thing to happen.

With the explosive punches of both camps, I think the winner of this fight will be the person who will make a solid connection first knocking out his opponent.

I'm sure Nery could not stand the punches of Inoue, so I'm thinking maybe the startegy of Nery here is to be so aggressive and he has to try to land solid shots first so he'll gain the confident. Nery has 27 KO, so he should consider himself as a KO artist too, and since Inoue isn't that durable, I think Nery have a solid shot if he will dictate the tempo first which honestly hard to do but possible.

There's no backing down for him, he came to Japan to challenge the champion, he should be aggressive and make it an interesing fight. You know, this type of fight gives them an opportunity but at the same time is also too risky for him, but that's boxing and the industry he choose.

Maybe, Tapales tried that strategy as well early on Inoue, but from time to time Inoue will caught him going inside. And so far there are no blue print on how to beat Inoue. It's a combination that you have a good chin because if by chance you took some hit, you can withstand it. And then you have to be very fast and your punches should be crisp like Donaire's left hook and the timing as well. Plus obviously, the element of luck should be in your side to be able to just have that one perfect punch to knockdown or knockout Inoue for good. And Nery's doesn't have that kind of tools in his arsenal and so very difficult to see what strategy will he used to even go full 12 rounds unless he brought his bicycle inside the ring and circle around.

The strategy of Tapales was very simple, it might have been effective if he has power because somehow he was able to hit Inoue with his counter punches, but due to the lack of power, Inoue earn high confidence and he continues to attack Tapales. With great strategy and power, I think Nery will be able to give that to Inoue and make give him trouble, but as you said, there's no blueprint yet as to how to defeat Inoue, so I'd say it's easier said than done.

What is devastating among Inoue's punches are those body punches.  Aside from having a durable chin, Nery should train his body from heavy beating.  We have seen several opponent of Inoue just falling to their knees and can't continue to box anymore.

It would be a gamble if Nery tried to be aggressive in the early rounds, remember both boxers are fresh and it is where the punches pack power the most. So I guess Nery should be flexible and train his quickness in order to land a counter punch or beat Inoue in landing punches faster.

Nery would have a chance to win in this fight if he is able to dictate the round and learn the movement to counter Inoue's strategy while evading those powerful punches.

Nery won't be able to beat the quickness of Inoue. I think the counter punching strategy might work for him if he'll be able to position himself well,  because if he go toe to toe without a clear plan,  that's just a suicide against Inoue who's one of the deadliest puncher in the sport. Nery has power, better than Tapales, maybe he can learn on what Donaire did to Inoue, because if Inoue was younger at that time, he could have already knock Inoue out.

Yes, that is another part of Inoue's skills, that body shot of his, very lethal, that is someone gets hit, you will feel it. And as what we have seen in boxing, body shots are as painful as a punch in the face.

And if Nery is caught off-guard, even if he trains his body, he will go down. He needs to be very fast and take advantage of Inoue's slow start and then build from that. But then again, another sign of a great fighter, he can adjust in the fly, like what he did show us in the Tapales fight.

Nery though has power, and if he hit Inoue early, we will see if it has effect on the Japanese or not. I can't remember what rounds Donaire was able to break Inoue's orbital bone, but it could be a series of blows.

However, it just shows how mentally tough Inoue is, not just his physical attributes, but he has what other great champions has, his mind to continue to fight even he feels that he is injured or not. We've seen fighters quitting in their stool because of injuries, but not Inoue. So we can say that he is a complete fighter that's why it is hard to beat him at this point and hard to see what kind of scheme Nery will have to develop in order to win.

That's one thing about Tapales, he doesn't have that power, but if Nery has some then we will see how Inoue will react if he will be hit early. But as we have seen in his fight since his close encounter with Nonito Donaire, he has improved a lot not just his power, but his speed and quickness in throwing counter like in the Fulton fight. So that's why I said there are still no blue print and it's hard to mold a fighter that can beat the version of Inoue. But in any case, Nery will give his best here, he might fall short though because of Inoue's training and improvement in his last couple of fights beating at least world champions.

I think Inoue just got smarter after his fights fight with Donaire. He respect his opponent more now. I mean, he doesn't just attack rectlessly and think of finishing his opponent early, he starts with calculating the movement of his opponnet and feeling the power, once he felt that he could absorb the punches, that's when he will be more aggressive and will go for a kill. This is Inoue v2, a smarter Inoue that is harder to defeat, the power and speed is still their and maybe improving at the same time but we cannot deny that Inoue had already matured a lot in terms of his boxing styles.

Have you guys seen the video of Inoue sparring against former title challenger Raymart Gaballo? It demonstrates the power, accuracy and speed of Inoue. Although Nery is heavier and more experienced than Gaballo. The video showed Gaballo wearing a head gear and we saw Inoue hurt former champions Stephen Fulton and Marlon Tapales and Nery is no different. But of course I am also interested what Nery can offer. He's like a Japanese assassin when he ended the long reign of former champion and p2p top 10 Shinsuke Yamanaka.

Inoue-Gaballo sparring: https://www.facebook.com/reel/3388484004785974

Thanks for the video mate,

Dang, the power of Inoue is really unreal, I agree that even if Gaballo had that head gear to support, still though he felt Inoue's power. What if there are no head gear? The result? Almost 90% KO rate for the Japanese.

Definitely, Nery will show in this fight just like what others did feeling very confident. But once Naoya got into his rhythm I wouldn't be surprised that Nery going down early or another knockout win for the Monster year and then putting his name on top of the pound for pound list.

Inoue is just getting stronger and I'm pretty sure that Nery is aware of that. As long as Nery is confident to face Inoue, we will surely see a an exciting fight, unless the pass opponents of Inoue that when they feel the power of Inoue, they change their style and become more defensive to prevent from getting knockout. That way, if they will do that, that's an easy win for Inoue and people will not be happy with their performance as that would only show they are just fighting to survive.

Every fighter is confident though in facing anyone, that is there job. And we don't know if this is going to be exciting as it could be very quick like the Donaire fight with just a couple of rounds. Specially if that confident says that he can go toe to toe then it will be an easy and fast ending for Nery here.

What he should do is at least have a good plan in the fight, trying to feel Inoue and see if he can outsmart him. And then uses his power from time to time and score points on the judges scorecard. If if he lucky that the fight goes to distance, maybe he can win in the scorecard.

I think scoring points is not enough for him to win. We saw the quickness of Inoue, Nery cannot outplay Inoue if he uses a score and run technique. IMO, Nery should conserve his energy and go for KO, because once he hurt Inoue, there's a chance that he could knockout the champion.

Nery should be confident, he must believe in his power becasue his record speak so, and although it's dangerous to go toe to toe with Inoue, but if it's the only chance for him to beat the monster, I think he should try to gamble.

Looking at their previous fights, Inoue is faster in hand speed and footwork so it will be very difficult for Nery trying to outbox the champion. Inoue got staggered by Donaire which means it might happen again if Nery lands his heavy shots first. Nery should not fight backwards and try to force Inoue to retreat or at least make the fight at the center of the ring. Or maybe Nery is practicing to fight backwards and tries to land his counters on Inoue. But it's too dangerous to fight backwards because that's where Inoue is too dangerous, hunting his prey.

It will be enough as I have said if the fight goes to distance and judges will have to score the fight. But it should be very well convincing round win for Nery as this fight is in Inoue's home backward. I think you contradict your self by saying he should conserved his energy and go for the KO. You can't KO anyone if you are not throwing any power punch and it means their are no conservation of energy.

Again, everyone is confident. Donaire was able to extend the fight in 12 rounds and for me this is the best way for anyone to beat Inoue. It's hard to score a KO in my opinion, maybe the closest blue print we have is how Donaire almost got Inoue in the first fight.

So he can't really do that. If we look at the previous fight of Inoue, Marlon Tapales was able to land some solid shots from his counter punches, but the problem is the power was not there, can't even rocked Inoue, so I'm expecting that if Nery will do the same strategy, Nery should have the power to hurt Inoue, otherwise, he will suffer the same defeat as Tapales, will last a bit but will still be KO in the end. Honestly, I believe it's hard to beat Inoue, so it's a big problem for Nery on how he can upset the best fighter in Japan.

That's obviously true, Tapales is not a hard hitter that's why even if Inoue is hit sometimes, he is still very aggressive in hunting Tapales and knock him down. Actually, Inoue could knock down Tapales in just the first round, but because he doesn't underestimate Tapales, he take it slowly and surely and was just looking for the right timing until he sees an opportunity to KO Tapales.

Nery might be a different animal, but so far, it was only Inoue on their first time that has a decent match of beating Inoue, unfortunately, Donaire got tired in the end and his punches are not anymore as strong as in the early rounds.

Tapales trying to become the aggressor or stay in the center of the ring helped him prolonged the fight especially in the early rounds where Inoue was also avoiding very risky moves as he was figuring out his opponent. Tapales was also landing shots although not enough to hurt Inoue and win more rounds.

One thing is clear though, Tapales was more successful than Fulton who was only there to survive once he tasted the power of Inoue. Donaire also tried to become the aggressor at least stay in the center of the ring in his first fight with Inoue and had some success. So I am guessing Nery is heading that way and avoid fighting backwards.

I'm a bit surprised there is even a weight class for 122lb fighters.  Maybe that's a crazy thing to say, but I'm not sure how dangerous a 122lb man is even at the top of his game in boxing.  For me to enjoy a fighting sport, I'd have to at least feel like the guys fighting would be some sort of a threat to me in a bar.  I'm sure they're very quick and their boxing skills are on point, but what sort of force are they generating with their punches at that weight?  I think a majority of the people at a random bar would have no problem putting either one of these fighters down, but maybe that's just my ego talking. 

There are a lot of great 122 lbs in history, for sure you are familiar with Manny Pacquiao as he was once a champion at this division. And we will forget about Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales fights at 122 lbs?

I doubt though that a grown ass man can put down a pro 122 lbs. This are train assassins with their hands as their deadly weapon.

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As for this fight, the odds hasn't change a bit, Inoue is still the favorite and I don't see it shifting a bit for Nery.

The first three fights between Rafael Marquez and Israel Vasquez were also in this weight class and are considered some of the greatest fights of all time. Even thigh there is usually more talent in higher weight classes, super bantamweight has always been a notable exception.

Size isn’t all that matters. Inoue might be shorter than average, but has managed to reach the top of the pound for pound rankings and become a major attraction, selling out the Tokyo Dome. Skill level and entertainment value are what really matter the most, which is why this bout is so highly anticipated .

People believe that Inoue is the next Manny Pacquioa, so we have to trust him and never doubt because if he is really the next, he will conquer all the challenges and proved to the world that he can create a history. Manny during his team had fought fighters that people don't even believe he has a chance of winning, but he always made people wrong on their expectation, one best example to what I'm saying is his fight vs Oscar De La Hoya, and in fact he made Oscar retired in boxing. I think what Inoue need is to be more aggressive in taking his chances, don't stay in one division for so long so he'll explore bigger weight division and push his limit.

And I've read that the stadium that Inoue is performing in Japan is around 50,000 capacity and he can fill that up when he fights. In the US, it's only 20,000 full capacity sits. So it make sense for him to just fight in the Japan, but still though US fans wanted to see him in the US soil.

I also love to hear Nery very confident and trying to trash talk his way into the mind of Inoue and, but I don't think that it's going to work.

There are a lot of historical fights in 122 lbs, yes, the trilogy between Marquez vs Vasquez, (maybe they have a 4th fight, I can't remember though, everything is based on my memory so pardon me if I'm wrong here).

I don't know about it, but if terms of achievement I doubt that he will become the next Manny Pacquiao, there are many similarities, but I'm not seeing him conquering the 147 lbs which is the creme of the crop so to speak of the boxing world. Most likely he will go as high as 126-130 lbs and after that he will have a hard time going up in weight classes.

Yes, he can fill Tokyo dome and other arena's in Japan, but still the big measurement for a boxer to become great or at least be recognized in the US. A good read:

https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-us-exposure-validate-his-greatness--182798

People judge based on the current achievement of Inoue and that if he will continue to move up in weight, he will still dominate due to his quickness and the power of his punches. Though it's really hard to surpass the achievement of Pacman who is the only 8th division world champion, but let's see, Inoue for sure has a lot of time to make it happen, or at least try to achieve it.

Yes, I also would like to think the Inoue can at least go as close to Manny when going up in weight. But it seems their strategy is very different. Inoue want's to unify belts and then defend it. But in Manny's case, as far as I know, he will go up in weight class immediately except maybe in the 135 lbs and fight the next easiest or weakest champion that they can find. A very intelligent and careful match making by Bob Arum. And maybe another comparison is that both are under Uncle Bob and so he knows and have the blue print already. But Inoue chooses not to do that at this point and may want to stay at 122 lbs for the time being and clean up the division.

Manny always aim in going up, he could be more than 8th division champion if he didn't skip a division. We can compare him to Manny and that could inspire him but we should not expect too much from Inoue as he seemed to be taking it slowly and doesn't want take an aggressive action about moving up in weight class. That time will definitely come, so let's just be patient and let's focus more on Inoue's upcoming fight and we can again discuss after the game is over.

Indeed this fighter is still young and yet we are seeing a lot of potenial from him. I'd say it is possible for him to conquer higher weight divisions if he won't be on a rush to do it. There's definitely more than stepping into higher weoght division; he has to dominate on it as well meaning,  experience would be a huge requirement before he continue to go up across division. I am not a fan of comparison between fighters because I see Inoue as a great fighter alone and same goes with Manny. Also they fought on different eras which is a factor to consider if people would insist comparison between these two great fighters.

But going back, Inoue as others have said would probably have a hard time against Nery, and that is already expected. Nery won't have such popularity for nothing and he deserved the spot as well. Will be surely exciting but my bias on this match will go to Inoue still.

And perhaps he is not moving up as quick is that maybe he knows his limitations. Can we imagine him fighting at 147 lbs? Manny's settled as this weight class and beating a lot of great boxers. So maybe Inoue might not see himself in the future banging with top prospects at 147 lbs and so he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and test all the mettle of the fighters here before moving up to 126 lbs. And I think he already had history and cemented his legacy this early and so they want to play safe first option. And base on the odds, he is a huge favorite against Nery and so it's hard how Inoue is going to lose in this fight.

No he could be very small at 147 lbs, natural welterweight are big guys around 5'9 in height and walks around 150 lbs off-season. So that will be too much for his frame. But then again, we have Manny, but he was like a gem, like a fighter that we will see once in like 50 years, very special fighter.

But we love to see him test the featherweight division next with fighters like Rey Vargas, tall with decent power and see how Inoue will strategized and fight that kind of boxer because I think it will be his first time to fight a taller guy with this kind of frame.

He is surely the huge favourite on this upcoming fight. In terms of going up in the weight division, I believe, Inoue's camp is also careful in increasing his weight. It is understandable to have that kind of strategy as he has reputation to keep. Hence, making sure that each step of the way is being considered.

For now, as he has no loss under his record, Inoue's camp is very careful in choosing their fights as well as the increase of the weight class. But boxing greats is not measured by no loss in his record but by how they conquer every fight inside the ring. Just my opinion though.

Yes, it's understandable that they will be careful on his body, although he is not that young anymore and I think his body has matured and he could go only at the featherweight to Jr Lightweight and that's it for him, no more 130 lbs as he might bulk and it could affect his speed.

So let's see his body of work against Nery, although Puma is very confident in this interviews that he will beat Inoue, but let's see. I'm not saying 100% that Inoue will win and there's no chance for Nery to win. But look at how Inoue's version in the last couple of fights, hard to see how Nery can overcome Inoue.

This fight is going to happen in the next few hours, just a heads up  :).

For Philippine viewers, this can be watch for free via Top Rank's youtube channel and their facebook account, i don't know what other countries can view this fight live for free.

Thanks for reminding, I almost miss this one. well, I hope that there's a live streaming in facebook would be easier as today I'm mostly on my laptop so I can just do my job while watching the fight. The odds hasn't change though, Inoue is stil the heavy favorite to win but I'm be glad to see some upset here.

Have not bet on this fight as I'm not certain how far this fight will go, and Inoue has been quite smarter, so I can't expect to see an early knockout, unless Nery will force Inoue to go toe to toe with him.

BTW, below is the link for this fight. I hope it will play on your laptop.

Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZWeUsDTmI

You are right, I almost missed out on this great fight which brought together two monsters that the sport of boxing has, I want to see if Inoue will defend his title and also his undefeated record to date.
After all, only Nery is boxer who can face him as challenger and in this fight we can really witness fight that is recorded in boxing history, Inoue really put it all on the line in this fight.

I definitely have Inoue as the favorite and I think he can keep his undisputed title and remain an undefeated fighter.
Maybe Nery is great boxer and only has history of one defeat but fighting Inoue is tough thing for him, I sure Nery will really have difficulty in the next fight.

Nobody comes close to Inoue in the Bantamweight division after Nery I don't think he will remain in this division he will  move on the Featherweight and campaign there, if the Inoue's promoters and Casimero's camp will make the fight happen he might delay moving up and face Casimero to put an end in this years of disputes on paper on who is the better fighter.

I have Naoya Inoue winning by knock out, there's nothing extra ordinary with Nery that will give him a hard time the real challenge for Inoue I often says is when he step in the featherweight division, its a division loaded with Superstars.

Thanks but I am currently watching a facebook live now stream by top rank, this sure has no interruption as it's not an illegal stream.
Currently it's Moloney vs a Japanese is fighting and it seems like Moloney is struggling, so I wouldn't be surprise if he loss.

this is the link BTW : https://www.facebook.com/trboxing/videos/802918764682753

Maybe after this fight, it will be the main event (Inoue vs Nery). Anyone here bet on Nery?

And the new WBO World Bantam champion is Yoshiki Takei, he won via unanimous decision. What an upset! he beat Jason Moloney who is more experience and the defending champion. What do you think about the decision, was it fair or was it bias because the fight is held in Japan?

Inoue Wins! congrats to him, what an exciting fight too bad for Nery he lost all his bullets after that surprising knockdown scored against Inoue he didn't follow it up in anything just to wait for another lucky timing again but it didn't happen since Inoue was careful enough to avoid it and managed to beat him throughout the round six and scored a couple of knockdowns until he finally finished him off.

After getting a knockdown in round one Naoya Inoue took command throughout the fight until he scored a 6th round knock out against Neri, I don't think there's a fighter in the Bantamweight division that can match Inoue's power so he needs to move up with his superb performance I don't think even Casimero can stand those punches, Congratulation for a great performance Inoue is really a class of his own.

Deym! I thought Nery is a big thing since he's so good at first round he manage to score a knock down on Inoue and many think about that he might be the one can give a defeat to this monster. But everything change on round 2 where he got knock out it seems he got afraid to receive a punch from Inoue and change his style. At round 3 until the end of the fight he eat a lot of solid punches of Inoue and that dictate the fight then Inoue scored again a knock out victory against Nery. Its another superb performance for Inoue. A lot of Filipino call out to fight Casimero but I guess that's not gonna happen.

But in this fight at least Nery got a achievement and that is he score the first knock down on Inoue's boxing career and for sure this will be written in history.

Yeah, what a composure shown there by Inoue after that first round knockdown, he was never rattled and adjusted that Nery could never hit him anymore with that counter left hook, what a clever fighter.

Casimero won't stand a chance against this version of Inoue. In every fight, he seems to be improving and I agree with that no one can match him in this division.

In the first round it looked like we might get a repeat of Tyson vs. Douglas at the Tokyo Dome.  Inoue managed to recover and showed why he is considered by many to be the best fighter in the world by destroying Luis Nery.

I would consider Inoue #1 pfp but we’ll see if Crawford is able to surpass him by winning more impressively. Interestingly, Naoya’s brother also got dropped in the first round but he came back to win a unanimous decision.

A fight against Casimero isn’t as appealing as it once was, so I think Inoue should move up in weight to find someone who might give him a tough challenge.

Totally i was surprised when Inoue got knocked down. Based in history this is the first time he got knocked down and this was really indeed a good thing for Neri.He might lost the fight but this one
would surely be that instill into boxing fans on who did make that first knock down on Japanese monster. Neri got knocked on 2nd too which i could say that this fight is indeed good and more better
compared into those previous fights on which you could really be able to see that both fighters are being knocked down. I do have thoughts that if Inoue would really be tending to get into higher
division then it would really be a tough thing i should say. I can see the movement is bit sluggish which is understandable but if he's been down by Neri then expect that there would really be much more
stronger and tougher opponents on higher division. Good thing is that Inoue is really that too fast to adapt and made out some adjustments accordingly and still able to win up but i would say
that Inoue did have that hard time on this one and not a walk in the part fight. He would be needing to cover up that weakness he had.

Yes, Indeed since he manage to adjust and took his revenge on next round. We can see how great his focus and he can able to adjust on situation then take advantage on the weak points of Nery.

I'm so impressed on first round performance of Nery but there's sudden changes happen when Inoue adjust the way how Nery moves in the ring and that's how he scored a lot of knock downs and finish Nery with impressive performance.

Casimero won't really stand a chance to defeat Inoue at current situation since we know how long could Inoue able to last since aside that he is fast and have powerful punch that guy got lots of air in the bag and this is what Casimero doesn't have so with this Casimero has less chance to defeat Inoue and I'm sure he also knows that.

Many of his potential opponents will take a good look at the first knockdown of Inoue and it seems like he was very careless at that moment. A possible exploit for his next opponent. I think he hadn't recovered fully when the fight resumed but because Nery was not very confident in charging Inoue recovered and eventually KO him.

I think the time when Inoue was knocked was a good time to cast a bet. I didn't really watch the live odds when that happen but it must have been a spike making a huge profit if one entered a bet.

I am a follower of Casimero on his social media and after Inoue got knockdown Casimero posted that he had never experienced something like that in all his fights he even compared Tete to be a much better fighter than Casimero whom he knockout in round 3 and if they ever met Inoue will be game over against him.

Casimero will keep taunting Inoue until Inoue gives him a chance to fight, but Casimero needs to prove that he is a worthy opponent by getting active again hopefully, Top rank will notice him and line him up but right now all Casimero can do is to insult Inoue.

Well, Casimero has a point though. In this fight, we've seen the weakness of Inoue as he has been knocked down for the first time in his career. I believe Casimero has a more powerful punches than Nery so if that was Casimero who hit Inoue, I don't know, maybe the fight will end in round one as there are still plenty of time after that knock down, Nery could just not hit another solid punch.

Inoue once again became victorious with another KO, I think it's time for Casimero to challenge him if he will still choose to stay.

Casimero  hasn't stop challenging him, it's just that Inoue also does not stop avoiding him. Actually, only Casimero is the remaining in the division that Inoue has to right if he wants people to stop talking about how he is dodging Casimero. Although most of us believe that Inoue can beat Casimero but we know his name will always popped up everytime Inoue has a fight. I believe Casimero is not afraid to fight anywhere, so he is willing to travel in Japan to challenge the champion, hopefully Inoue will accept the challenge before he decide on moving up.

Too much of a risk for Inoue. There may be some people who will support a fight Inoue vs Casimero but they are pooping the party when they could make money by putting their money on Inoue as of now. He is still fast at  122 which he could be moving up again to see if he could also take another belt. I think LW will be his target since that is where the moneymaker fights.

By the time Casimero will also be there, he will be about 36-37. The age when a fighter's skills start to deteriorate. An embarrassing strategy in boxing.

True, if you are really tend to look at on how Inoue is really that guarding up or making his defense then we could really say that he's really that not putting up that much when it comes to defense as if he
did really believe that Nery couldnt really be able to make out some fast counters but as we can see on first round on which you would really be able to notice out that Neri could make those powershots
on which swinging up those arms with having that impact but most of those punches were been avaded but on the time that they had made out that exchange of blows. You could really be able to see
on how Inoue is really that not guarding that much and that was really that a right moment to make out some counter. Nery might not be known as a power puncher but that one is really that a one
good solid hook which makes him that be able to down and face upon a canvass.

That was a solid counter punch that Inoue didnt' able to evade or block. You can really see that timing was perfect and tons of fans or even in the crowd you could be able not to hear something
and for sure they didnt expect that. Just like on what you have said that Inoue did make that kind of adaptation on the situation on where he had decided to make out adjustments because of that knocked down.

On further rounds he is making that adjustments and taking up that kind of distance with more swift and solid straight jabs which it penetrates on Nery's defense and gradually being felt in later rounds.
Taking him down into the 6th round and ending up on TKO which does proves out that Inoue could really that be able to adjust accordingly and you are right that this might exposed his weakness
but for sure he would be making out adjustments and wont be used up against him on other future fights that would be coming.

@Zadicar. Was this really an adjustment that Inoue has done beginning on round 2 or was this Nery beginning to become not very aggressive? It appeared that Nery was not very aggressive anymore after the round. I reckon if Nery continued the pressure, this might cause Inoue to walk backward and he cannot throw his power punch which might give Nery another chance to punch Inoue's jaw.

On Naoya Inoue's victory, congratulations to him and his team. Also to the Japanese fans hehehe. However, it appears his next opponent is not very good and we can be quite certain that this will be in Japan again. Inoue might not become something similar to Pacman in fame after he retires.

Who will be his next opponent? was it already announce? I hope it will be Casimero as I've been waiting for a long time to see these two make a conclusion about who is the better between them. Casimero making joke on Inoue again, he said if it was him who hit Inoue, Inoue might not be able to continue, well, it's true that Casimero has the power that's probably the reason why Inoue does not accept his challenge.

There's a rumor that Sam Goodman will be his next target that man is if I'm not wrong the number one contender on IBF also on WBF titles.

I try to research about the record of this guy and we can see that he's really a big thing also have good chances to fight Inoue https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/832952

But we don't know yet if they really aim to fight Goodman so lets wait for their official announcement since for sure they provably release the names of their next possible opponent. Also for sure Inoue's camp will not chase for any possible match up against Casimero since they don't have anything to take from him that's why Casimero will be less on their priorities. But who knows right? If Casimero will be the mandatory challenger maybe we can see this fight to happen.

That would be an easy fight for Inoue, IMO, Nery is better than that fighter so that's a downgrade of opponent. If he would like a real challenge and a huge hype on the fight, he should fight Casimero so that rivalry will end soon. He was suppose to fight Casimero before but it was cancelled, now is the time to face him that no more hindrance and the fans would really want it.

Goodman is not a good option there's no challenge, even though Goodman is undefeated he is not the kind of fighter that can give problems to Inoue, people will label him cherry-picking his opponent when the only fighter that can give him real challenge is Casimero.

I don't know if Inoue's handlers and promoters are turning blind for not seeing Casimero bashing and despising Inoue on social media, people will think now that Inoue was knocked down he is vulnerable and someone like Casimero can knock him out.

Inoue's handlers are taking good care of Inoue by picking the right challenger that he can easily beat, he is no different from Canelo who knows who he will fight to establish his legacy.

Inoue's handlers probably think it is not worth engaging in Casimero's bashing, and to be honest, I think Casimero should focus on his career and catch up with Inoue if he wants to have a fight with him, his bashing doesn't really do anything for him or to Inoue.

I hate this type of strategy, it kind of removes that challenge a boxer gets when fighting another fighter. a lot of boxers today rarely go outside their comfort zone.

I haven't check, but is he the mandatory fighter for IBF? If he is then we can't say that it's a downgrade from Nery as he is their number 1 fighter. I think we are all looking for Casimero to be his next fight. But so far John Riel performance in this division is not that good. And in this fight, Inoue rises to the occasion again even if he experience his first knock down, just like great fighters, he comes back and then demolished Nery and did beat him by a knockout. Maybe former champion Murodjon Akhmadaliev is also in the list of Inoue as well. So there are still a lot of good fight for him in this division and he can have one more fight before the end of the year.

It's really up to Inoue's handlers on how they are going to do with Casimero's bashing. They almost had a fight before, and if I'm the handler of Inoue, I will give Casimero his shot. And since Casimero has a Japanese handler as well, maybe they can sit down together and talk about this fight. Nery is good in this fight, but Inoue is better in any angle, speed power. And although Casimero is touted to have a good power, he hasn't showed in in this division. We admit that he is brandish and talk trash, but I don't think that he will be the one to beat this version of Inoue, and still pound for pound fighter at the lower weight. If WBO and IBF forces him to fight their #1 then it will be Sam Goodman who should be next and not Casimero. But still depends on the camp of Inoue who they think who could give them big money.

I think it's fair though, nothing against Moloney, but I was surprised to see Nery was able to deck Inoue in their fight and I take that there will be an upset. But Inoue stood his ground and fought like a champion. And Nery's strategy is effective, but we all know that when Inoue gets to his rhythm, sooner or later he will have to take the fight and dominate in just like what we expected here.

Not sure though if there is a gambling site that covers a Inoue knockdown? What will be the odds if there is?

So next for Inoue might be Casimero or Sam Goodman and then he might decided to move up to 126 lbs and then see if he can bring his power to that division.

I have seen some fight highlights of Nery and I got to say that there's not a lot of things worth mentioning, he's an okay boxer and I think that he could stand up for himself but pitting him against Inoue, I don't think that he's up for it. It's probably a knockout from Inoue, dude's a monster on the ring so I'm not sure how we can be too dismissive or at the least too indecisive about this one, it's definitely Inoue's win.

He was a champ and a top boxer in the division, there's got to be something on him that's why he sort of knocked down Inoue. If the chin of Inoue is just vulnerable to such hit, Inoue wouldn't be able to stand. A lot of people people actually celebrated that knocked down thinking Inoue's career will be over.

Of course, Nery is one of the best. Inoue plans to defend the title 3 times in this division but I think it's time to move up 126.

Moving to 126? I highly doubt that on which Inoue would really be might be staying up a while on this division considering that this is the place on which he had been able to taste up that 1st knockdown into his entire
boxing career on which he would really be definitely be having into his mind that if he would really be taken down on this division then going upwards might really be that a bit more a problem considering
power punches on higher division is really that more comparing into the current one but if he would really be able to rush up himself on getting those different division belts or unifying them all then definitely
he would considering on moving up but i highly doubt that. He might be staying up for a while into this division but well who knows right?

On the time that Nery knockdown Inoue in the few seconds of Round 1 then for sure there would really be that impression that there might really be that an upset for this match. We've seen on how Nery
did make out that solid chin hit which makes that Inoue down into the canvass but eventually he had stood up fast as it seems that there's nothing happened. If Nery would be able to finish it off then i could say that its possible but he had been short on that one, not only on the few seconds remaining but also he cant be able to make that barrage of punches considering that Inoue is still hurt on that time. Clinching by Inoue is a good strategy to make that round over and make out some recovery into the next round. We cant see on how Nery make out some punches on which it might not be that too many but you could see that each punch does have that kind of swing and power behind.

That's right and that was a wake-up call to him and he felt really well how hard punches can easily knock him out if he wasn't well prepared for that fight because it clearly surprised him and he lost focus for a while until the bell rings. thankfully for him, he gets back on track and quickly manages to score a knockdown against Nery and that was the start of his revenge until he finally manages to beat him which causes him to fall not to get up again. He is excited to watch while knocking out most of his recent opponents so far, I wonder when would it last for him to have this great boxing skill.

Yeah, but definitely if his body can't squeeze at 122 lbs, sooner or later he will have to move up at 126 lbs. He has almost clean up the division already, except for a couple of names. And so if he has intentions he can fight either Casimero or Akhmadaliev and that's it, he had clean this division.

And it's hard to maintain that 4 belt that he had, at some point he can't defend the belt from it's mandatory because they are looking for money fights, big fights that will bring them good money. So he can be stripped as well in the future. But I do agree that 126 lbs is going to be different for him as he will fight naturally bigger guys.

Casimero would be beaten up like a pulp i should say. This dude is spamming out on the social media that if he's the one who punched and took down Inoue then there's no chance that he would be able to back or stand up which it is really just that boastful approach or words i should say. If we do compare Nery and Casimero when it comes to knock out percentage then we can see that Nery does have
KOs   77.14% compared on Casimero KOs   66.67% according to Boxrec on which these percentages differences 10% gap might be small but no its not.
This guy really loves to boast as if he could be able to beat up Inoue or simply this one is all in talks.  :)

Not just that, Inoue is top pound for pound fighter, and with this showing, he will still be up there in the top. Good to see him being knock down because we need to see how he is going to response with that. And as we have say, those punches that we didn't see coming, will put anyone, but the questions is how he will make a comeback. And he shows us by giving back a knock out win. Truly one of the best in this generation.


Any thoughts of Nery vs Casimero next as well? They have been engaging in trash talking way before, so I just want to see this fight as well.

Reports say Sam Goodman will be next for Inoue before the end of the year as he is the mandatory fighter.

Not a big fan of Casimero but after the Inoue knockdown Casimero can now boast that he has never been down the way Inoue got that knockdown, yes 13 years ago Casimero lost by a TKO against Thalane but he never went down, Casimero can boast, because he also has big names in his record that he knock out like Tete and Sunny Edwards and he is a three-time World Champion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riel_Casimero

Casimero may be annoying but he walks his talk and these stats could be one of the reasons why Inoue's handlers do not like Casimero to pit against Inoue because he has credentials to boast

Did you see the interview after the fight? Bob Arum brought Sam Goodman in the ring to stand beside Naoya Inoue already heheheh. This man Bob only wants another hyped scam that does not give fans a thrilling experience. These promoters should learn from Eddie Hearn and Mr. Net Stockings Oscar dela Hoya. They are the promoters of King Ry and Devin Haney.

I reckon Casimero should fight someone in the rankings immediately and create an argument that he should be the next challenger for Inoue.

I guess was right when he said that Inoue is only a world champion in Japan because he is only fighting in Japan and does not challenge him which I think has a decent chance of upsettting the monster. Well, Inoue is not a monster anymore IMO, he can knock out an opponent, no question about that but when he is hit by a solid punch, we can see him again down on the floor, and if that was coming from a KO artist like Casimero, then probably Inoue's hype would be over soon.

I don't understand why Bob keep bringing opponents to Inoue that we all know doesn't stand a chance, why not try to bring the guy that has been challenging him and that the fans believe will give a 60-40 fight.

here's what I think, he is trying to build Inoue's career(not that it already is but he is trying to bring it to a new height) as he did with Pacquiao, the only difference between the two is that Pacquiao is hungry for a fight and will take a challenge even if it is out of his comfort zone.

exactly, if Casimero really wants to fight Inuoe, make it impossible for their team to ignore his challenge to fight Inoue. I'd really like to see these two fight and finally see which one is the better boxer.

Yes, you are right and now everything has been clearly proven that Inoue is the best and strongest, he is knockout monster who really makes every fight spectacular and makes everyone feel amazing ferocity.
In the first round Inoue was knocked down by Nery but I was sure that Inoue would respond and it was all real, Inoue threw very hard left hook in the second round until Nery fell and that was the revenge for the first round crushing blow.
Not only that, Inoue got another left hook which knocked Nery down in the fifth round, the surprise came in the sixth round when Inoue delivered very hard right hook and really made Nery fall so he couldn't continue the fight.
This is history and Inoue is creating new era for himself now, his knockout victory against Nery is very happy moment for everyone, especially the Japanese people.
Congratulations to Naoya Inoue on truly amazing victory over the only fighter who could have been worthy of being his opponent Luis Nery, now everything belongs to Inoue he is the truly undisputed champion to date.

So it will be an Aussie who will have another crack at Inoue. I think being mandatory, and I don't think this is so called scam fight as obviously mandatory fighter should be next in line to fight for the belt and so be it.

Nah, Casimero is aging, doesn't impressed at 122 lbs and I think he is already way passed him prime already. He is under a Japanese promoter though, so they should give him a good test time and win astoundingly to catch Inoue's attention.

Yeah I see that and maybe that is the way of Arum to give people a hint of possible match up for Inoue. But maybe there will be a changes since we don't know how this crazy businessman minds work since they always chase after on where they think they can earn a lot of money. I don't know if he needs to learn since for sure he has his own way on how to market his promotions and we can able to see that Arum is successful for riding the hype of current Famous boxer in this generation.

Casimero really need that fight since its undeniable that he's out of the radar so he should finish those guys on the ranking with impressive win so that there's a strong argument between their possible fight between Inoue since this is one of the biggest fight what a lot of fans want to see.

That's Bob blue print to make Inoue looks great in the eyes of the fans. Casimero might be good, but perhaps he has no longer the hype that once he had when he is at 118 lbs and that's why they don't want Bob to give him a chance. And who knows, maybe they are all in connivance with his former promoter MP promotions that Sean Gibbons and Bob have this unwritten rule not to let Casimero have a crack with the way he severe his ties with Manny Pacquiao's promotion.

For all we know, Sean Gibbons take it personally, all he wanted is for Casimero to have a public apology, but he chooses not to and now under a Japanese promoter, Treasure Boxing Promotion.

He was shook though, he didn't get up very quick, he waited for the 8 count before going up but the thing is that he has recovered from that flash knockdown. And with that knockdown, there are arguments that Crawford and Canelo who hasn't been knockout down in their careers as top pound for pound as compare to Inoue. But the crazy thing is that Inoue has almost knockout most of this opponents for 2 years now if I'm not mistaken.

He has fought former and current champion and everyone went down from his power regardless if it is 118-122 lbs. So the skills of Inoue is really beyond this weight class and as we say, he can clean this division very easy, not even Casimero or his supposedly next opponent can bring problems and make an upset.

He already built Inoue a successful career but we are already tired watching him fight in a division where he already dominated, so if he will not fight Casimero, I think there's no reason for him to stay. Lots of champions are waiting for him in the new division, and I think he is capable of beating them and become the unified champion again.

Inoue should give Casimero and the fans a chance to makeit happen, as a fan of both, I like to see them fight so we can conclude if Casimero is just trolling or telling the truth. I guess it's quite overdue, he should fight Casimero this year.

Everytime Inoue win in a fight, Casimero would always want to gain attention so Inoue will fight him, but until now, it has not happen yet because Inoue is not interested on him for some reason. Some probably thought that Inoue is afraid of Casimero, well, if that is the case, he should not be calling himself as monster of Japan because no monster is afraid of anyone.

honestly, I feel that Casimero will just keep chasing Inoue and Inoue will have plenty of excuses to avoid Casimero as he can. Of course, he is the champion, and as long as Casimero is not a mandatory challenger, Inoue has no business on fighting him.

We all want to make it happen. It is good for the boxing community; the ball is on Inoue's camp. He is the champion. He has the privilege or the luxury to pick who he will fight, the same privilege Canelo enjoy.
But if you take a closer look Inoue's camp never mentions Casimero they totally ignore him, Casimero have done a lot of taunting.

There's a viral video where Casimero is jumping and laughing when Inoue was knocked down  :D :D
Inoue's camp should watch the movie and see how Casimero mocked Inoue; Casimero is one animated guy who loves to mock people inside and outside the ring; just imagine the hype if these two meet in the ring.

https://www.facebook.com/100089318193331/videos/1982785948785213

@coin-investor, if Inoue was really interested fighting Casimero, he should have already fought him a long time ago, especially when both of them are still champions in the bantamweight division. This taunting will never stop, and only Inoue is the one who is capable of stopping it, and that is fighting casimero  and settle everything on the court.

Casimero is not the top contender, so if Inoue will make the top contender as the basis for his fight, then that fight will not happen and Inoue can continue to dominate weaker opponents. It seems like his camp are really good on protecting him, like putting in front of him boxers that are not on his level.

Casimero may not be the top contender, but his credentials match Inoue's skill and power. Zolani Tete and Inoue are the two top fighters in the Bantamweight division because they are both champions until Casimero ruins this by knocking out Tete so he becomes the likely contender, but so many bad things happen to Casimero that messed up the supposed matchup between Casimero and Inoue.

Inoue favours fighting what the organizations and his handlers want him to fight instead of fighting who many people think can give him another legacy fight, if Inoue decides to move up then all hope between the two to fight will not happen.

Yes, he might have that standing but now its different considering that he isnt really that on the level of Inoue now. We arent that blind on whats the condition or places that on where they are now.
If there would really be that some sort of mandatory match in between Inoue vs Casimero then i would really be saying that Casimero wont be standing a chance. Inoue might been able to taste his first knockdown but doesnt mean that it would really be over for him. Weakness might be exposed now but pretty sure that he would really be making out some adjustments for that.
It is really that somewhat that bit irritating of Casimero's tons of shit talks or trashtalks about of Inoue's knockdown as if he's really that too good. LOL!

Isn't it the number of division conquered to be the biggest factor in considering a pound for pound king?  So I guess the one should be crowned is the person who is still active and has conquered more division?  Though I think it is subjective but the word itself - pound for pound sounds like a boxer that dominates more weight class...

Inoue is indeed dominant in most of this criteria:


but after all we may think that Inoue is one of the top pound for pound boxer but the authority who releases names for top pound for pound may not see it that way.


Yes Inoue can possibly clean two more division clearly but that is yet to be seen and what is considered in is his records and performance and not the insight we have about his talent.


We can speculate everything but I think it is best to see these two boxers fight it out to see what really is the result.  I am thinking that Casimero might get KO'ed in the early round since Casimero had the tendency of being careless that often leave himself open for a KO punches.

LOL, but he could be the next victim though, he should be humble, but I guess this is the way he wanted to be, I mean he trash talk not seen before for a Filipino, very brandish on his part. Nevertheless, he himself can't knockdown any opponents at 122 lbs or at least he has been in controversial fight.

But let's see, his name is not amongst those, and it's the Australian Sam Goodman is the next fighter that Casimero will face and it was reported to be in Australia?

That will be a first for Casimero to defend his belt outside of his native country but he should be careful as Australia is known to be have biased decision. However, if he scores another sensational knockout then who needs the judges card?

It's because Casimero is not the same when he was in bantamweight and so it make sense the Inoue will skip him for better fight. And it will be the same outcome to be honest, I don't think anyone can beat Inoue, although we have seen him getting knock down. But what's more scary is his ability to recover, maybe 60% of the opponents of Nery that tasted that power can can't back, but not Inoue.

I saw the video of him mocking Inoue when he goes down from that punch, but it will just added for Inoue not to face him.

Casimero should be back in the ring though, he is not getting any younger and although he won his last fight, majority of us here are not captivated by that win.

If Casimero really wants that fight, then at some point he has to prove it inside the ring. Taunting Inoue isn’t going to get him any closer to making it happen if he is inactive and stagnating in the rankings. From what I’ve seen recently, I’m not sure Casimero would even beat Nery or Fulton. I’m sure his strategy is to just wait for Inoue to clean out the division until it is his turn, but he is losing relevancy with his lack of recent accomplishments, which could make Inoue decide to just move past him and go up in weight.

I reckon the changes might come from the team of Naoya Inoue. He is presently in 2nd place on the pound for pound listing, however, he is name is not mentioned in a similar way as Pacman's name. I predict for his next fight, he might begin finding some deals to fight in Las Vegas. However, in his weight division, it will be very difficult. He might need to increase weight again and go to the featherweight division to unify the championships. The only big name in the featherweight division who is a champion is Brandon Figueroa and his is only an interm champion. Inoue should wait for Figueroa vs. Vargas and challenge Figueroa if he gets the victory.

Well, now that Inoue has already fought the top contenders, then he has the liberty to fight Casimero. I believe Casimero still has it, but his journey in this new division are not as good when he was still at bantamweight division which Inoue didn't fight him. Casimero will continue to improve his ranking, but the question is, is Inoue will make sure he'll wait for Casimero? I think Inoue can easily move up, so the fight is not gonna happen.

that's why I said he is trying to bring it to new heights. anyway, I agree, I think he should move up to a new division where challenges are waiting for him, it'll be a new challenge for him and it'll be good for his career, that is if he can prove himself to that new weight division.

as I mentioned, if Casimero really wants to fight Inoue, make it impossible for their team to ignore his challenge. right now, Inoue's team are ignoring Casimero because there is really nothing going on, in his career.

Casimero doesn't have any to bring for Inoue except that taunting, which I think the camp of Inoue has matured already from all the antics of Casimero and that's whey his name is not even mentioned. And if ever he will be, he might be just the 3rd options for Inoue. And as we pointed out, the number 1 contender will be the next for Inoue and that is Sam Goodman. And how can Casimero continue to improve his ranking when he doesn't have any scheduled fight yet? By now, barely 6 months before the end of the year, he should have a scheduled fight by now and had name opponents already and we can access if it is a upgrade fight for him or not.

I think Casimero's named was mentioned during an interview after Inoue defeated Marlon Tapales, but for sure Casimero is not the priority since his ranking is low. However, for a champion that has been disrespected everytime, I think he should accept the challenge of Casimero so he can shup him up. Inoue vs Casimero, such a good title, and I think the fans will be fully satisfied as sure this fight will end in KO, not sure who will win but I know it's going to be fun.

I'm a fan of Quadro Alas but all he's doing is just making noise and need some attention; he hasn't really proven much yet. Based on the current rankings in his weight class, he's at number 12. If he really wants to fight Naoya Inoue, he needs to prove himself and ranking first, not just making noise and asking for attention. As a Filipino boxing fan, I admit I'm one of those who want to see Casimero vs Inoue to happen but for that to happen, he needs to improve his ranking first. Inoue won't really gain anything if we just say the fight happened. It's not worth it for Inoue's side.

And this could be the reason why Inoue says that he wanted to stay in this division. At least have his own hit list just like what Floyd did at 147 lbs. And there are two names that we wanted him to fight and one of them is Casimero.

But for now, Bob Arum is hinting on a Australian fighter and the mandatory and rank #1 Sam Goodman, still a good fight in my opinion.

There is also a champion at 126 lbs who says that he is waiting for Inoue to go up in weight class and meet him. So I guess the hype is still there for other boxers to fight the Monster and test themselves out and find out if they can defeat the Japanese or not as he has shown his weakness already with Nery drop him.

Who wouldn't be a fan of Casimero, very flamboyant and brandish inside and outside the ring and knows how to make some noise and back it up. But at number 12, no one will take him seriously, not the unified champion in Inoue.

And as what you said, he needs to improved his ranking first by fighting another rank boxers in his division and then impressed us, just like what he did when he was a relatively unknown boxer at 118 lbs and then just go up and beat the champion and become a house hold name not just in the Philippines. But it was his fault that he lose everything because of his weight issues.

That man is always loving on talking shit, yes he does have that kind of achievement but when it comes to ranking then it isnt shocking on why he's still not been considered to fight Inoue. lol
Casimero fans are really that dying to make this fight happen as if they do really believe that he could be able to beat up Inoue and if we do tend to compare out both fighters then there's no chance for him to win up against the monster. Casimero easily gassed out and this man loves to talk and making up some trashtalks but if ever it happens that there would be that kind of mandatory fight in between
then he would really be able to eat up those trashtalks that he made out earlier. hahaha

Even if his name is mentioned after the defeated Tapales, fast forward he was not the fighter that Inoue faces but it was Nery, who obviously he knockout and another of his victims along the way,

Hypothetical question to you guys, who do you think will win though, if both Terrence Crawford and Naoya Inoue are in the same weight class let's say Crawford's best weight at 147 lbs and then Inoue at 122 lbs? Who do you think will win?

Tough question to answer but i will go with Inoue because the guy has tough chin though he was knockdown by Nery for the first time of his career but he recovered immediately that Nery didn't have the chance of take advantage of that knockdown and second, Inoue is heavy handed that he could knockout his opponent with just one punch though Crawford also has it but i just love to watch Inoue fight.

On these fans who want to witness Naoya Inoue to fight John Riel Casimero, I am one of you. However, it appears that this might never happen. Casimero's is being promoted by a small Japanese promoter called Treasure Boxing Promotion. This company is very small and it might not have the cashflow to bring a good offer for Inoue's team.

On Inoue's next fight, there is no one. This Sam Goodman cannot offer anything for Inoue. There is no money, there is no hype and there is no legacy. Figueroa should be his next fight and this should be in Las Vegas.

I don't think that's really of a big hindrance, it can be promoted by both parties to make the fight possible. I'm sure it's not hard to promote this fight as it has been hype for many years and surely selling tickets and PPV is not going to be a problem. Pretty sure the Japanese fans would want to see this as Casimero has been mocking their champion and they want him to pay the price, and that is by being defeated by Inoue. However, it will not happen as Inoue continues to neglect this big fight.

It's hard to choose Crawford to beat Inoue in this division since he hasn't started here, in short it's not his natural weight so he might struggle if he goes down. Both have skills,  there are also times that Crawford almost lost in a fight though he wasn't knock down, but you know, a fighter that is more comfortable in his weight will likely become victorious, I think it's better for a fight to go up than go down in weight.

Luck has been tough on him, because his fight ended up in Draw although it does look like he really hurt his opponent. It's just sad to see that because the fight was held in Japan, the decision does not favor him. In fact, his fight vs Akaho which is also a Japanese ended up no contest but later Akaho admit that the really loss the fight that's why Casimero was awarded with a KO win, if only the last fight was win by KO, his ranking might have improve and Inou has no more excuses of not fighting him.

Not sure if the fight is going to be held in Australia since Sam Goodman is obviously Aussie. The only thing that Goodman can offer is that he is the mandatory challenger, but other than that, yeah 0 for legacy and we might see that since Inoue's chin has been broken, who knows, that low reward, high risk for Inoue might works against him.

Figueroa won against Magdaleno last May 4 as well, so it could be a good set-up fight for Inoue when he enters 126 lbs. But I think Top Rank doesn't want Inoue to go up very quick as there are dangers for him in this division.

Indeed, but I will go with this version of Crawford to beat Inoue similar to how he dominated Spence. And I think Crawford will be the favorite in somehow they are in the same division.

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We still wanted for Inoue to fight Casimero, this has been our fantasy since they almost collide at 118 lbs and Casimero's fight at that weight class is very impressive. John Riel though when I check is already 35 years old and could be a damage good already. And as he move to 122 lbs, the power is not that scary as compare to 118 lbs when his power is really strong and anyone that he touches goes to the canvass.

Casimero has nothing on the table for Ioue to take and if they have to fight that must happen this year as Casimero is getting older and looking at his practice, seems to me that he lost a step and i don't think he can defeat the prime Inoue.

In an interview, Inoue said that he won't go up in weight to fight somebody for the money and no need to be recognized in the US as he is very popular in Japan and the money offered in his current division is the same in Las Vegas and he is contented with it so i think we won't see Inoue fighting in Vegas sooner.

Yes, make sense of Inoue not to fight Casimero, John Riel is just trying to poke him so that eventually he will give him a fight. But his camp are wise enough not to fall for it, Casimero could be a good test for him, but the question, Is Casimero deserving of a shot against the Monster? Maybe after his fight and win against Goodman, Akhmadaliev might be the best logical choice for him to fight next. Casimero should be active though as he is not getting any younger and maybe he has just a couple of fights in his career as he is already in his mid-30's if I'm not mistaken.

I am sorry for the fans of Casimero. I am not a fan of him and his type of trashtalking, however, I have always argued for him being a good boxer.

On Inoue being satisfied to only fight in Japan, this is very disheartening. However, this is also okay and we should accept because not much boxers are special types of people who can move the world and create legacy. He does not have the inspiration of Pacman. Inoue is a very good boxer but he is only a boxer.

I would agree with you on this because I already saw that Inoue isn't really that strong after he got knockdown in his recent fight. That's why Casimero now is creating noise in social media because he is very confident that he can beat Inoue, but I think Inoue also not taking chances as that means the end of his journey as an undefeated boxer, and you know, when a boxer is already defeated, he is not the same boxer anymore.

We don't know how long he'll keep fighting in Japan, but  Inoue if he will decide to move up, he must leave Japan and make US as his new home to gain more followers and popularity will rise together with the money he'll make every fight, this as long as he keeps winning.

That maybe describe what his career is or at least what kind of boxer Casimero is, good but not that elite as compare to Inoue. He could have the power in 118 lbs, but when he move up he is a different fighter.

But I do agree, American audiences deserved to see him fight specially now that he is a pound for pound fighter. He can't just hide from the fact that he can make money in Japan. At least he should treat as in the States for a great fight so why not go and travel to the US? It really baffles me as well.

We all know that Japanese are very patriotic, that maybe one of the reason why Inoue choose to fight mostly in his home country. The money is in the heavier division, welterweight to heavyweight and i don't think that Inoue could reach the 147 pound division with his body structure, i mean he is too small to move up to that weight unlike Manny Pacquiao that once rule the welterweight division because he is taller than Inoue.

Anyways, Goodman might be next for Inoue, though this is not an interesting fight but if held in Japan, money still flow to the purse of Inoue.

Locking the thread and as usual, thanks for your contribution to this thread.