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Question: Who do you think will win?
Inoue by KO
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.


Inoue is the heavy favorite with the odds interpretation that he is unlikely to lose, so Nery has the challenge here prove to the world that Inoue also has some weakness. The fight is in Japan, all advantage is on Inoue but Nery could make it not necessary anymore if he could end the fight with a knockout.
I cannot think of any fighter that has a chance to beat him in the super welterweight, even Inoue who boast that he can do the job has no advantage against Inoue we will just see Inoue's greatness leading into the upper weight category, we all hope that he moved up he wiped the division and that includes Casimero so no one can say that Inoue did not gave him a chance.

Wrong divison, Inoue is still fighting in the Super bantamweight, and I doubt Inoue will reach the Super welterweight as he is stoo small for the champions.

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January 24, 2024, 12:07:34 PM
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I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

He said in the last 3 years. The first fight of Inoue vs Donaire happened last November 7, 2019, so he is right. The 2nd fight was in 2022 where Inoue just dismantled Donaire and could probably resulted to his silent retirement because we are not seeing him now although he hasn't announce it officially yet.

Maybe you forgot about the year, time flies fast, right?
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

Perhaps prior to the fight, everyone thought that they will have a good chance against Inoue. So in paper, Fulton as a 2 belt champion is touted to be a boxer that might beat Inoue's style. And then Tapales too, he said before the fight that he is really on what Inoue will give to him. But the fight was not even close. Maybe it's just way to sell the fight but for bettors, Inoue is really very hard to beat.

And even if Nery has a good knockout percentage, Inoue is very hard to hit to even score a knockout against him as Inoue has a good defense too and his chin has never been really crack by anyone.

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January 24, 2024, 01:02:22 PM
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So Nery needs to be very careful here, he might think that his power could be enough, but Inoue shows that he has a iron chin too. And Inoue also developed his counter punching already, similar to a pull back then straight right of Mayweather. But Inoue has more power.

Nery does have a good KO rate but Inoue is just exceptional. He better think that he is up against an extraordinary powerful fighter so he would be reckless when in the ring. It's a big success for him if he could finally deal Inoue his first lose, but it's easier than said, you know.

I believe that Fulton and Tapales were the toughest opponent that he fought in the last three years and Nery is not that invincible he was first exposed by figueroa the guy cannot take a punch and figueroa is not even a hard puncher, all Inoue has to do is to aim the body because Nery has weakness in his body as shown in his match against Figueroa.

I don't see it that way. The toughest? These two boxers you've mentioned didn't even hurt Inoue, they were champions but they are just playing solid defense without an offense, but still it resulted to a KO win by Inoue. The toughest was against Donaire, during the first meeting, Inoue got hurt but he was smart to make an adjustment and manage to win the fight.

Perhaps prior to the fight, everyone thought that they will have a good chance against Inoue. So in paper, Fulton as a 2 belt champion is touted to be a boxer that might beat Inoue's style. And then Tapales too, he said before the fight that he is really on what Inoue will give to him. But the fight was not even close. Maybe it's just way to sell the fight but for bettors, Inoue is really very hard to beat.
They tried to play the trash talk before the right but during the actual, they looked like a punching bag to Inoue. As for this division, there's no one that could really match his talent, but there's one boxer I want Inoue to beat and that is Casimero. I know some of you may say that he doesn't deserve the chance, but what I like is that once and for all Casimero will stop the trashtalk once he was dealth with a defeat.

But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.


And even if Nery has a good knockout percentage, Inoue is very hard to hit to even score a knockout against him as Inoue has a good defense too and his chin has never been really crack by anyone.

As I stated, no boxer could match Inoue in this divsion yet, and I don't see Nery as an excemption since he's not a special fighter. Although we can also respect the power of Nery, but in terms of quickness, that he can't beat Inoue on that.

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February 03, 2024, 09:21:24 AM
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But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.

I agree that this would not be a boring fight for the fans of Inoue and I just don't know how Nery would handle Inoue's bombs if he decided to go toe-to-toe early. The thing is, boxers always have a game plan but that changes whenever they are hit hard.

Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

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But i'm sure it's not a boring fight, it will be a toe to toe fight, guaranteed.

I agree that this would not be a boring fight for the fans of Inoue and I just don't know how Nery would handle Inoue's bombs if he decided to go toe-to-toe early. The thing is, boxers always have a game plan but that changes whenever they are hit hard.

Yes, Mike Tyson's famous quote.

Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.
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Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.

Maybe that's the right strategy for Nery, better gamble on being agressive, either lose early or win early than let Inoue dictate the fight and will eventually make Nery the same with other fighters that changes their style from beting aggressive to defensive just to survive the fight. Nery could use his ample time to train harder as a win here is going to make him very popular. They say it's almost impossible to beat Inoue at this division, so Nery should make that as an inspiration to train, gets his stamina ready as it's never impossible to beat a boxer even if how strong he is, afterall Inoue is still a human.

Pressure offense, a slugfest, that will destroy the defense of Inoue as for sure he would accept that challenge, but Nery has to improve his speed so he'll be able to catch Inoue good.

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Nery is an aggressive fighter and so I predict that this would not go the full distance if nothing changes in his style. But the only chance for Nery to win is to slug it out as putting a premium on his defense would not get him the win as Inoue will slowly dismantle him round by round until he is ripe for the picking just Inoue's previous opponents.

It will be his pride that will carry on this fight. I mean he is also known to have a great power, so he will try and test Inoue with his set of power and see if he can handle it. And I don't think that Inoue is scared of anyone in this division, he knows that he can dominated it as he has done it with 2 former champions. And it's going to be very hard fight for Nery to win, unless he caught Inoue with his power, and it's a perfect shot that Inoue can't recover.

Maybe that's the right strategy for Nery, better gambler on being agressive, either lose early or win early than let Inoue dictate the fight and will eventually make Nery the same with other fighters that changes their style from beting aggressive to defensive just to survive the fight. Nery could use his ample time to train harder as a win here is going to make him very popular. They say it's almost impossible to beat Inoue at this division, so Nery should make that as an inspiration to train, gets his stamina ready as it's never impossible to beat a boxer even if how strong he is, afterall Inoue is still a human.

Pressure offense, a slugfest, that will destroy the defense of Inoue as for sure he would accept that challenge, but Nery has to improve his speed so he'll be able to catch Inoue good.

Mike Tyson summarized the behavior of every boxer and that every boxer has a plan until they get hit in the face, all of Inoue's opponents have a plan and they will do everything to implement that, that's what they all say during the press conference, unfortunately on fight night after they get hit they change their plans so from planning to be aggressive they become defensive and they just wait and become tentative.

I expect Nery to lay out his plan I'll be taking notes on the plans that he is going to lay out so we can see if he can implement them on fight night or if he will just be another planner outside the ring and a runner inside the ring.
But for me, Nery will have no resistance against Inoue, Nery is not a power puncher and he cannot be considered at the level of Casimero or Donaire so it's going to be an easy win by Inoue here.

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February 05, 2024, 04:05:05 PM
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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

In any fight, there would really be always the chance of upset on which this is something that Inoue should really be careful with. The sense of being careless? there should really be no room for error
because once those punches would be landing up, considering that Nery is also a power puncher or have those solid shots then it would really be that so dangerous that he would really be letting his
guard down. Speaking about having a poll then it wont really be that a bad idea considering that despite for Inoue to be heavily favorite but still there would really be those people who would really be
voting for Nery on this one, just like into that previous fight of Inoue that there's still someone who do hope for some upset but of course it didnt happen. Even we do know high likely for the outcome or result but its fun to see those polls somehow.
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OP did not need a poll for this because I don't think Nery can get a vote that he can win against the Monster, even by a split decision but if he pulls an upset like a lucky punch that will be the biggest upset in the history, because no one in that division can beat Inoue, the poll should be what round will Inoue knock Nery out.
Even if Inoue does not want to cherry-pick an opponent there's no way he can't do that because all ranked boxers in his division are cherry-picked fights.
This is another usual fight for Inoue, there's a lot of challenges in the featherweight division than here in the super bantamweight, so I expect a boring fight where Inoue will just display all his power.

Unless he is really a fan of Luis Nery, he might be the single one to vote for him in this community. In the Tapales fight, if I'm not mistaken, there could be some who voted for Marlon and think that he can have that lucky punch to stop Inoue, but it didn't happen. Inoue is very smart and have a underrated boxing IQ.

Because we all see his power, but we don't see how he fight smart, reading his opponent in the first couple of rounds and then once he figure them out, he will go and soften them before putting a late show of numerous knockdowns and the knocking out his opponent good. Nery might have the power, and he could touch Inoue, but I doubt that he can knock him down, IHMO.

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This is another Inoue show, and it will end in knock out just like he did against his last opponents the division is kinda boring now because of lack of opposition because Inoue is just too good for that division.
After this fight, he needs to move up, or at least fight Casimero to have a little bit of excitement in his fights, the featherweight is where his mettle will be tested because fighters like Navarette and Lopez can take big punches, and we can also see if Inoue can take his power in the upper division just like what Manny Pacquiao did.

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This is another Inoue show, and it will end in knock out just like he did against his last opponents the division is kinda boring now because of lack of opposition because Inoue is just too good for that division.

It might be, and as much as we hate to see it like that, but it is what we call dominate and cleaning up that division in no time. He has beaten the 2 champion already and Nery is just another rank boxer that he needs to defeat in order to cement his legacy. Next could be Akhmadaliev and then that's it, he had clean it up and should move higher and chase for more greatness.

After this fight, he needs to move up, or at least fight Casimero to have a little bit of excitement in his fights, the featherweight is where his mettle will be tested because fighters like Navarette and Lopez can take big punches, and we can also see if Inoue can take his power in the upper division just like what Manny Pacquiao did.

At 126 lbs, We have Vargas, Luis Lopez, and then Rafael Espinoza. But then again, this boxer is natural 126 lbs and much bigger than Inoue. That's why this division if he decided to move up, will be his biggest challenge and it will really show how Inoue is made of, just like when Manny is moving up and facing bigger guys. To be fair though, Manny was not as dominant when he moves up, he didn't carry the power, but the speed and volume is there that's why he was able to defeat them while moving up. You can hear comments of those boxers that he defeated, it's not about the power of Manny, it's the speed that kills them.

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So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. Reymart Gaballo Yoshiki Take.

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So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. Reymart Gaballo Yoshiki Take.

Finally there's already an official date. it's just sad that Gaballo has been scratch  as he was replaced. Well, I think we know that it's still going to be an obvious win for Inoue here as he has not experience slowing down yet, and I don't think Nery is capable enough to beat Inoue especially in his territoty.

I am not familiar with Yoshiki Take, but I pressume he is a Japanese and it's the Japanese people who are making it possible to have 2 boxers to represent the country in this particular fight. If Yoshiki Take will win, then there will be 2 Japanese champion in the bantamweight division.

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^^ As far as I know there are already 2 champions in the bantamweight division, Naoya Inoue's brother, and then Junto Nakatani beating Alejandro Santiago. And if by chance Take will win against Moloney, it will be their 3rd champion in the 118 lbs. So that is a huge accomplishments as far as Japanese boxing goes and as I have previously, this could be their golden era.

But looking at the rankings, Take is rated #10, so he might be relatively unknown boxer unlike Nakatani and Inoue.

However, he has the homecourt advantage on Moloney here, as the fight is going to be in Japan. Just too bad for Reymart Gaballo, perhaps he will get the winner here so that he could still pursue his dream to become a champion.

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So there is a official date for this fight and it's May 6. Maybe the OP can update the thread together with the odds.

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Japanese star Naoya Inoue will defend his undisputed super bantamweight championship against Luis Nery at the Tokyo Dome in Japan on May 6. The 12-round bout, plus undercard action, will air on ESPN+ in the U.S.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/naoya-inoue-vs-luis-nery-fight-date-time-odds-price-card/9c90c908d24d6fa83575f14e

And as expected it will be in Japan and Nery is free to fight in that country and they have lifted the ban obviously.

No surprised on the odds, Nery is a big 7:1 underdog.

The undercard will include Jason Moloney vs. Reymart Gaballo Yoshiki Take.

Finally there's already an official date. it's just sad that Gaballo has been scratch  as he was replaced. Well, I think we know that it's still going to be an obvious win for Inoue here as he has not experience slowing down yet, and I don't think Nery is capable enough to beat Inoue especially in his territoty.

I know, many Filipinos are shock that suddenly Gaballo was scratch and no longer fighting for the belt. But it's all business, Top Rank wanted all the money here so they chooses less risk big reward in fighting Take in Japan. He is way below in rankings, unlike Gaballo although the underdog but has the potential to make a upset. Moloney though has duck Inoue and now Gaballo, so that could be a consolation for Filipino supporters as Top Rank doesn't want their champion to face them.

I'm sure Bob Arum know's it very well so they chooses Take, take the fight in Japan and if by chance Moloney will retain his belt and maybe chase for bigger fights in Japan next again with either Nakatani or Inoue for unification, clever plan by Uncle Bob.

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This fight is approaching,



https://www.ringtv.com/665816-naoya-inoue-luis-nery-set-may-6-in-tokyo-three-title-fights-confirmed-for-undercard/

And as I check the odds, Nery is a huge underdog, 7:1. I'm not surprised though, Inoue is really on his prime and we don't see anyone at 122 lbs that can beat him. Even our favorite boxer Casimero, can't last the full 12 rounds in my opinion.

So if Inoue stay here for at least a year or two, he is going to clean up this division for good.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

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@Baofeng. I reckon Inoue should not fight against someone without a big name. This thread is only 4 pages, however, the scam ICO fight of Mike Tyson and Jake Paul is more than 5 pages already hehehe. Why is this? This certainly implies that Inoue has not yet reached the same type of popularity like Pacman. Also, Inoue's fight is in Japan? He should begin to fight his championship defenses in as Vegas the fight capital of the world. There will also be more money in his purse if he will fight in Las Vegas.

Maybe the interest of people is less for their fight since there's no clear indication before that their fight would proceed but since right now the discussions towards their fight against Nery is floating up and there is a schedule has been  set that's why maybe he give an update regarding on this match.

But for saying he's doesn't have the same popularity as Pacman then we can agree to that. Some people compare him to the legend but in reality his so far to achieve that. He select his opponent and he didn't go out on his comfort zone. But if he can able to go to US to fight those big names on industry and get an outstanding win maybe those people who doubt about his legacy will totally agree that he's the nearest boxer who can break the record of Pacman or maybe became more better.

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