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I know that there are probably rules, somewhere that I haven't looked. In general I feel like noboby has really posted Rules to Chat GPT. Of course I know its foolish to use it direcly as if you are the one who created the text/thought but what about quoting? And What about as a research tool? Chat GPT really helps to you skip the learning curve if you know how to use it correctly. It has helped me loads with simply understanding complex thought that I didn't undertand. I just made a post quoting Chat GPT and I don't even know if that was following the rules. If we can't avoid it which we definitely can't, that means that Chat GPT is veriy similar to BTC in this aspect lol. What do you guys think about Chat GPT? I'd love a Btalk Bot that has kind of like a chat GPT engine but geared direclty towards helping the users/ newbies with literally anything. Would love to see this THEYMOS! I wonder if this has been discussed? ???

As long as you mention the source (as you did) and properly format it you shoulnd't have any issues.



What would be the point of having something like that in a place built so people can have conversations with each other? I don't know about you but I prefer getting answers from real people instead chatbot.

We've seen all kinds of suggestions but this one is one of the most pointless ones I've seen in a while.

Im not convinced we are there yet.  Tools like AI chatbots seem handy, but we gotta think about problems like misinformation, fake news, and whether they can really give people customized help and,  like say your Bitcoin wallet is acting up and you might lose your hard-earned coins - would you rather get a generic response from something like ChatGPT that might be wrong, or get advice from somebody trustworthy on a forum who really knows their stuff?

Im just not sure AI is ready to solve actual issues folks have.  And when your money or livelihood is at stake, you want a human who understands your specific sitch and has the skills to help, not just a bot spitting out what its algorithm thinks applies.  This stuff keeps improving but its gotta be way more advanced before Id rely on it for anything important.

They are fighting serious to eliminate the use of Chat-gpt because they wanted everyone or anyone posting here to share their real knowledge instead of using this tools over here and, there are several people that has been reported for using GPT to post here. Naturally while posting you can indicate in your post just Rikafip said there will be no penalty for that, but you must know that the forum doesn't encourage anyone to use that over here, even to search a question from google and copy to post here is highly frown upon the poster and hence might received a tag for that so whatever you are post that doesn't comes from you directly then you must provides a source link to such post.

Alot of members agree that this place is an interactive community so everyone should be able to converse with each other at least that's how it's supposed to work but it's just funny how people now get robots to do their chatting and conversation for them 🤔🤔. I agree that the AI helps a lot when it comes to compiling and understanding things but Atleast when it's being explained one should be able to do the rest with his own brain that actually created the actual bot that help him.  😁

The rules here as stated in the first post above is to provide the source of your information if at all they don’t belong to you, this acknowledges the real author and also save you from answering unnecessary questions base what wasn’t yours, this particular rule doesn’t change when pertaining to ChatGPT or any other AI tool.

As for your suggestions about AI tools been invented here I don’t think it will be a good idea because if there is one thing that spreads misinformation or stats this period is AI, they have fixed answer for a particular situation and a human brain is robust to solve the questions in different directions that’s why when you get stuck ask your questions here and people with life experience will tell you how to solve yeh issue  not a machine. If it was to create a AI tool I don’t think we will be here because you can simply navigate for that on goggle. Right now the only thing is to make the search engine of the forum function well. But a AI tool which carry an idea of its developer and few other ideas is not welcome.

This forum here is old school and this is the best there is, in the past people talked to each other, there was more human interaction, you had creativity... Today you only see people with cell phones and GPT chat, human x human interaction is ending , this is a big problem. I am completely against using GPT chat for interaction here at Bitcoin Talk.

I agree with you and I also prefer to get answers from real humans instead of chatbots that were trained on data which's publicly available. Those chatbots can't really have the emotions or ideas that real humans have and that's why getting answers from those bots is not useful at all.

I wont suggest anyone to use those AI text generators because instead of helping you they can create more troubles for you. Members of this forum really don't like to talk with bots and they don't want to hear the answers or replies that are generated by a bot. It's much better to avoid those in order to be more productive. I think traditional school way of writing is much better than getting any help from those AI chatbots.

I highly disagree with OP's suggestion and I would never want a Chatbot to be part of a reputable forum like Bitcointalk. The users who need help here on Bitcointalk will get the help through real humans not through a bot. If chatbots continue doing everything that humans do on this forum then soon we will be allowing those bots to take decisions for us and that will lead to destruction of our thoughts and ideas.

Besides "explicitly stated" Chat-GPT Topics like: "AI's opinions on yadda yadda", I don't think there's a good reason for you to quote a language model that fetches data from other people's efforts. Even less reason to put it up as a research tool when we can't even use Wikipedia as a reliable research source for studies in the academe.

Personally the reason why I think ChatGPT should be outright banned is it removes the effort and the ingenuity in creating posts that come from you all in all. Especially if you're part of a campaign and you're getting paid for it. And at the end of the day, no one's gonna want to interact with a site ran by bots, which is what effectively would happen if we're going to allow ChatGPT here. Not to mention the fact that this site was made in the first place for the sole purpose of providing educated opinions on certain topics, and debate upon those that need debating. Incorporating ChatGPT here will effectively make bitcointalk's main directive a massive flop. It's going to drive even less productive and contributing topics into this forum (I can only imagine what's gonna happen to the gambling discussion board when ChatGPT gets accepted into this forum) so all the more reasons for theymos and the gang to not really allow that in our forum.

So long as you quoted and mentioned the source, it should be fine. It's simillar to users quoting a text from a different source but then mentioning the source of the text

Nobody is against ChatGPT, but rather users who spam and pretend to be posting their own replies, yet they just copied from ChatGPT responses.

Just asking what difference would the Btalk Bot away from the commonly known ChatGPT?

Please we still have a new forum software to deploy, leave us alone  ;D

Personally, I wouldn't want to see the forum become a space filled with ChatGPT-generated content.  What would be the point?  We all have access to these tools, so there's no need to just copy and paste the same content onto online forums.  I prefer to read the genuine opinions and experiences of real Bitcoiners.

Teachers have a bigger problem with that honestly haha, and yes I would have to agree people do abuse the software for that purpose but not me, I use it as a way to enrich myself and educating myself instead of having it write things for me for my own use. I mean honestly I get where people are coming from and by no means do I want to take away the community be replacing for certain things, but for simple things like searching for example. Everybody knows that google is better to find anything on bitcointalk, but what if the built in Bot could just do the search function for us within the bitcointalk browser that we are in already? I am purely speaking from the sense that we can use this technology with simple things like that.

Haha i'm sorry m8, I know you guys have a lot on you plate and this isn't up on the priority list by any means and I'm not saying it should be all I am saying is to consider the posibilities and to embrace AI in that sense for the sheer use of utility alone like the reason I stated above.

Here's me imitating ChatGPT while answering your question:

Certainly! While its true that theymos has yet to make a definitive statement regarding the use of ChatGPT on the Bitcointalk forum, several moderators have expressed independent opinions on the issue. Such opinions include regarding ChatGPT-authored posts as spam, as non-conducive to the forum's overall environment, and even being contrary to the ethos of an online forum.

It is important to remember that viewpoints of the staff may change without warning, and you should always check their recent posts for policy updates. It is essential to conduct one's own research on such an issue before taking actions based on the information provided in this response.


Yes. Quoting ChatGPT is fine. Its only a problem when people try to pretend they are the ones who wrote the material & want to take credit for it.

For example, I would much rather see this:


Than this:


Just something duplicitous about taking credit for stuff written by somebody/something else. It shouldn't be tolerated or we will soon be overrun by it.

Lol...I think this is normal, so far it is not what you can write word-for-word, so why not? You can learn from Chat GPT, gain the knowledge and write it in your own way. I do not think that there is anything special here, after all, we learn daily. Many things you know today were learned from different sources, and some of them will not even be known or remembered again by you, yet the knowledge sticks there, and when you want to use it, they are readily available.

That is the same way I see this, you can learn through any source but just don't publish them the same way, but if you must, reference it, it is as simple as that. Chat GPT is not lesser than the books, information and articles we sort for and read both online and offline, they are just information, but the issue is that you should not plagiarise, you should be natural and creative in writing it down and I do not think there should be any other special rule/consideration for that.

Even if it is the word-for-word you need to write, you might want to quote it as created by Chat GPT, but you should limit it as much as possible. I've seen some people do that in the forum too. I mean reputable members.

In my opinion, there is no need for rules in using chat GPT because it is not our own thinking and using chat GPT is the same as using other people's thoughts.

Of course there is no problem if we discuss chat GPT. I liken it to a mixer that is prohibited from being promoted but we are allowed to discuss, like a drug that cannot be consumed but can be studied for research and treatment.

That sounds like a good idea. Chat GPT is used as a bot and guides beginners, so what will we do here if beginners have been helped by chat GPT? Maybe we will lose the discussion material. lol  :D

Thank you M8 for spelling this out the way you did! I also liked the use of Chat GPT to not only show how robotic that response looks but also it displays more context in the analysis of what others on the forum are saying about this topic from the very beginning.

I would definitely have to agree that anyone trying to take credit for a compilation of what other people wrote put together by computers is just downright preposterous!

The development of A.I. applications is the key. We have reached a point that makes it difficult to discover them using traditional methods. It is then impossible to know whether that publication was written or if it was text re-generated by artificial intelligence.
It is true that so far these applications have not developed to that degree, but who knows what will happen in the future.

Short answer: bots have to follow the same rules as humans.

Long answer: chatbots should be banned! I couldn't care less about the "opinion" of a language model that can spit out millions of "opinions" per minute. It's utterly pointless to care about. If you put it inside quote tags, at least it's not plagiarism. But it's still completely uninteresting, and I quickly click Ignore on users who do this.

This is how you post BS. That spambot doesn't "understand" anything.

Then search for the original of the data, instead of using a language model that puts data together without having any idea whether or not it's accurate.

This is what I read:
https://www.prokraft.co.uk/user/products/M6-8conv2.JPG
This is Bitcointalk, not Facebook. It's very annoying to read a text if the author is too lazy to type a word.

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It would be better if chatbots get banned from the internet! They plagiarize by definition, by sharing other people's work without giving credit. Ban them, ban those companies. Put the lid back on Pandora's box before it's too late.

If you use content from any source to post, you must announce it is not your own content by

- Using a quote block
- Leaving a source link
By don't claim it is your own content, you don't plagiarize and will not be permanent banned.

You are free to use any tool for learning, researching and even correcting your grammar. ChatGTP is one of them but don't use ChatGPT to compose a post for you, then copy and paste it in this forum. Without source, you will be banned. With a source, it still looks odds because you look to be lazy.

You will not be banned, but what is a point by doing this?

You propose a thing that will kill the forum, whenever someone create a thread, every user shouldn't give a reply because it's considered as spam (if the @OP know the answer by using CHAT GPT, why you need to post it again)?

It's similar like you're asking anything to your friends and your friends replied you "use google" instead of giving the actual answer.

Direct use of GPT in making posts is equal to plagiarism and plagiarism is not allowed in this forum, and if one gets caught he will be banned in no time. Talking about using GPT to learn the lessons, or learning something that you don't know before, for example, you read some post here, you don't know about it, or the words you heard are new to you, (consider, the topic is in Bitcoin discussion section and you are a regular there) and you searched about them on GPT and learned each and everything just for the sake to give the reply in your own words, then I don't think there is anything bad in it, because we all learn things due to some reasons. The amazing thing is, that same thing will be used who know so many times in other posts as well. So giving a reference is not important, that's what I think.

And talking about a Btalk Bot, Best of luck with that and with admin, heheh just kidding, I mean, there are other things need attention and you want a Btalk Bot, that's great by the way. Not trying to dishearten your idea, only trying to say why would need a Btalk Bot for such things, while we will still use the GPT's API, and that's not a hard task, if you know a little bit of programming, you can make your self a one in the form of extension. That's really not that hard. But there are many already been made so there is no need.

Skip learning curve or just save some time?


But ChatGPT is black box, while Bitcoin isn't.


Literally anything? I've seen ChatGPT or similar AI create wrong or even harmful information.

There are no official or unofficial rules regarding the use of artificial intelligence on the forum, and this is definitely something that the administration should seriously deal with so that finally even those who seek justifications for using it in an unethical way know what awaits them if they want to go in that direction.


If it helps you understand some things in a faster and simpler way, that's fine for me personally. The problem is those people who use AI to create some content and then present it as their own - and I'm one of those who don't want to interact with robots on this forum.


I've never used a single AI bot and I don't miss it at all in my life, which means that it can be completely avoided - unless you're under the influence of the mainstream media, which tells you every day that it's something completely normal and inevitable. Comparing AI ChatGPT and Bitcoin really makes no sense...

If you'd followed this topic in different places on the forum, you'd new that AI makes lots of mistakes, it is inaccurate. So when you compare it with books, it is an incorrect comparison. And main problem is that AI text is written in formal style in good English and that increases the reader's level of trust to that text, because it looks like written by some person deeply knowledgeable about the topic. And when you have reliable and fake facts in a mess, how can you know yourself which are which?

AI chats are to have fun, not to learn from them. And that's why it is even more worse when someone posts AI texts without references: an unprepared one even don't have a chance to know that all that rubbish is written by AI.

As long as you mention the source (as you did) and properly format it you shoulnd't have any issues.

I do not see any issues here based on the conditions that AI didn't write the whole of the text for you, that you ensure to let your readers know that some stuff is written by AI, and lastly it is not a repetitive act. That is, if is not used frequently.

We do not need a bot here on bitcointalk forum. It defeats the purposes of the why this is called a forum. Collinsdictionary.com  (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/forum)defines a forum as, a place, situation, or group in which people exchange ideas and discuss issues, especially important public issues. From the definition, it is important that we exchange ideas amongs ourselves and not with a bot. If we start having conversation with bots then it is no longer a forum but a bot-rum.

I don't understand people who claim that using AI chat helps them learn. Where have all the other old, trusted sources gone? People have become so lazy that they cannot find information but trust what the robot provides them as the last authority. But these robots have been proven many times to make mistakes repeatedly.
Many AI tools can be interesting, but what ChatGPT writes by tearing words out of people's texts to make the text unique sometimes looks very absurd and difficult to read.
The world is so crazy about various inventions that people are ready to replace live communication with people with communication with robots. This goes to show how lonely many people get.

I don't think this suggestion has been discussed before, but even if it has, I don't agree it should be implemented on this forum because this forum was created to be run by humans and not by bots. Despite the fact that humans have been on this forum and giving helpful replies, suggestions, and opinions to newbies for so many years now, newbies still keep being directed to this forum because of the authenticity of the information that they get from the forum.

If you are suggesting that a bot be implemented on this forum, then there should be no need for humans to share their ideas because it's assumed that the bot can provide every answer that anybody needs. 😶

Chat GPT may be useful to some people for a quick searches and studies, which can save time and stress (that's what I hear people say), but I don't think it should be added to the forum. If this bot gets integrated here , members on the forum may not want to think again about producing positive comments; every reply will come from a bot, and it can therefore be abuse.

I am still old school and using the old means to carry my research, as a matter of fact, I have not used to AI bots before and I don't have plans to use itit,  unless my brain stops working.

Chat GPT is simply just the modified/upgraded version of google search since it just collect data from the web and process it for you to become a whole thought on answering your question. The problem on using it you can’t verify all the details it provides since the source is not included.

I believe it’s better to do manual research and provide sources on your post so that you can filter what you are sharing here in forum. I only use chatGPT for my personal question when I need to have a quick answer then later on verify it. I never use it as reference to what I’m sharing in the public because I’m not confident that all chatGPT post is accurate.

I think it's junk that is making people more lazy and stupid, and I would consider every use of chat-gpt from members in forum as plagiarism.
I would never implement anything like this in bitcointalk forum.

Better ask your bot if theymos will allow this, you don't need to talk with other people or him anymore :D

And I suspect that one of your posts could be made with help AI generators!  :P

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/05/vPxHj.jpeg
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484020

I think the rules about using Chat GPT are pretty straightforward to me. If you make a post that the content of the post belongs to someone or somewhere else without stating so then that's plagiarism.

As far as you reference the source of your post I don't see any law against that, although it won't make sense to make a whole post through AI, the same way it doesn't make sense for your full post to be a copy of a website page even if you insert the link to the article.

I agree with these words. It's true that AI can't talk with people like real people. People very easily can identify the writing from ChatGPT. It's really simple. Here "Artificial intelligence or AI" leverages computers and machines to mimic the problem-solving and decision-making capabilities of the human mind. AI machines generate language. AI can't make a real speech like real conversation like real people in real-time.

AI generates many more conversations within a second not real conversations. You can check the passage AI generates, its atmosphere looks very worse or it can't express the real movement of real people.

Yes he mentioned that already in his first post:


And the way he went about it was the correct way:

One thing I will say is that you can choose to not use AI, but you can't choose to not have AI used on you. Also, I do agree with you on how the AI content is shared if it is used. Not giving credit is not okay. I don't blame you for not loving the idea of interacting with robots on the forum but i'm just saying for like a general user guide an section in your account settings help page where there lays an ai chatbot for the forum users that could help with anything they ask about the forum & help searching for certain posts, how to explain to new users how to post images or provide extra tips and tricks. Would that be such a terrible thing?

I have to admit that your idea is very strange to me, because you think that the forum should integrate an AI chat bot with which users would then communicate in order to get answers to questions that can be easily found using the forum search option? I don't see anything positive here, except that we are going in the direction when forum members will communicate with AI bots instead of discussing with other members - because that is obviously a much easier approach in today's world.

However, considering how people think, I wouldn't be surprised if your wish comes true one day in the future - which means you just need to stay on the forum long enough.

It would help if you noticed the response speed of users who answered the question on a new topic. This is not only fast but also allows the questioner to choose for himself the most understandable and useful answer. This is far superior to the AI responses, with their dry, lifeless, and sometimes incorrect answers.
Let's be proud that the forum remains untouched by technology and continues to be human, in the correct sense.
It's much cooler than chatting with a robot.

It is better not to adopt what you think is helpful but cannot be controlled. Most of these chatbots are not easy to detect because there are so many detectors that are conflictual and inaccurate. It is better not to introduce anything like these machines in the forum because it will promote cheating and laziness.

The forum has a lot of materials in different sections that can guide anybody on how the forum works. Anybody who wants to learn about the forum should put in some work and not just want to get everything cheaply through a machine. The ability to put in some effort to learn about the forum should be a litmus test for members who are willing to stay on the forum. I don't think this forum will be better if it encourages members to learn through a machine that is causing more harm than good.      

the only advantage of the chat GPT of a thing is that if you're totally clueless about a particular thing you are working on, it could guide you on the basic knowledge you need and then you go on with the rest of your research.

Because the information we receive in the forum is directly from human that will share their wealth of experience with you, you can't compare that kind of information to the one gotten from the use of the AI. Even when you're getting a view from someone that is less experience in the forum, it's always inferior compared to when you're getting information from an experienced person and you definitely don't want to imagine the level of false information chat GPT can provide sometimes.

Quoting for sure is going to work and you're not going to have any issue with it, just to be safe you could quote Chat GPT directly as the writer of the quote so that the members know, Your not actually going to be in trouble if you are using it the right way, as a research tool for sure is for sure allowed, if you think about it that was actually convenient to learn something so easily or have an idea about something, what we just avoiding it is completely not doing anything using CHAT GPT directly and using it as an answer here in the forum, since that could just mean that you're not the one posting on your account, its the AI that is doing the work which is going to be plagiarism and use of bot, I mean this is an advancement in technology so they are not really going to disappear probably they are going to get better and better in the coming years for sure, what we need to do is just use it correctly.

I dont know about Btalk Bot, I just can't see the point of having it since this is the forum that is already what we do, helping each other directly by creating a thread or a topic and then replying on it as a direct answer to the question if we are going to have one, some BOT that answers questions about cryptocurrency or Bitcoin so we just replace the forum with a BOT just ask the BOT then no need to create topic anymore.

AI generated threads started invading the forum soon after the launch of ChatGPT but thanks to the one who identifies and report those bots which is a thankless job. But as if now people may be using it with text spinning to meet the quota of their sig campaign but sooner or later they will get caught.

AI isn't having any purpose in a forum where real people interact even though the replies were incorrect will be corrected by the others and ultimately we all are here to learn something by sharing what we know and read what others posts and allowing chatbots will destroy the purpose.

About AIs generating conversations in seconds, I must say I agree with that. But I strongly disagree that their work can't look like real people's work. It only depends on the AI you are using, how you've set/trained it and how you are patient about the conversation you want it to achieve for you and how actually want this to be viewed.

The issue is that many who are using the AIs are lazy, they want the job done so fast, so they are not actually giving it time to perfect what they want. To be honest with you, some AIs will deliver some jobs to you and you can still proceed to edit it to make it more fitting. That's for those who want to at least add effort to what the AIs have done for them, but not the bunch of lazy chickens just wanting to spam.

That's because AI is still in the development stage but I'm sure in 5 years AI will be very powerful and maybe they will be able to judge which references are trustworthy and which are not. Maybe people's behavior will change from usually looking for information on Google search boards to AI boards. Google also performs searches in a fraction of seconds and the results are now very good, their algorithm is able to analyze which sites have good ratings and which do not, Google has a great algorithm in determining SERP

The next problem is, if we don't have special abilities then we will be finished off by AI. Honestly, I agree that AI is scarier than any technology ever created

Here is not a research institute, neither is it an educational institution that plagerism should be followed strictly. What theymos and other members of this forum wants from you is that you should try a way to show that the post doe not belong to you. Trying to pass another person's post as yours, especially when wearing a paid signature is considered cheating and punishable.

There are many of such developments outside, if anyone wants to know about BTC they can use random chat gpt. Developing one for this forum is a stepping stone to making the forum so artificial.

It works only when you are searching for something very common what many others search also. The same for AI: if there is many similar texts it will give what most popular. And when you search for something not so popular and what is accordant to something popular, sometimes you need to search a lot to find what you really need. So I don't expect AI to become good enough to stop making mistakes, and AI mistakes can be painful if to ask something important.

I believe that is what will definitely happen in the nearest future. Google search requires some analysis and systematising of information, even the slightest. While AI bots offer ready-to-use answers. People are becoming easier and easier, they don't want to deal with information themselves. Everything is heading to the situation, when most of people would draw information not from open sources, but from where it is presented in the most simplified, ready-made form.

Have you ever found an accurate answer to diagnose a specific disease from a doctor? I don't think so, doctors still have to carry out examinations, research and analysis. So there is no instant accurate answer even if asked to humans or experts

However AI is like that, a few years ago Google's search engine was also very bad, but now it is very good, Google can almost find the most accurate answers on the internet. I suspect AI will also be the same, maybe one day AI will even be able to judge the answers themselves, such as providing statements about their own answers, answers that lack references, answers taken from unreliable sources, answers that have too many pros and cons, etc. I don't think it will take long, maybe 5 years is enough to make AI that sophisticated

However, no matter how sophisticated AI is, its position will be like Google, AI is only used to help humans. But you definitely know how much we depend on Google search for now, it is only a matter of time until we start depending on AI and public jobs will be replaced by AI. AI, robotics, sensory, will dominate many general routine work sectors replacing humans

Maybe one day books will be digitized and AI will be able to find answers from expert answers written in their books, carry out comparisons, analysis and arguments for its own judgments. Again, it's just a matter of time. However this is just an opinion in my head and I honestly hope what I predict is wrong, because that would be a real nightmare for humans.


Yeah, I think so

There are two things that are different - Google Search only recommends you links to find the answer to the question you are looking for, but AI gives you the answer directly because they summarize it for you. Of course - AI is a technological product that helps with many things, but AI will not take over everything that is needed on the Internet and you will still have to do a lot of further research for more accurate information.

AI can replace humans in certain jobs - but it won't solve all problems without human intervention. We may think that AI can help you with everything you want - but AI could possibly harm the systems that have been built in such a way. AI can solve some problems - but not all problems and AI cannot completely replace humans for anything without human intervention.

I just want the government to ban it and this should not be misused. AI is a technology that can be dangerous if used incorrectly - its use must be limited so that humans can still use their brains.

Yeah bro, agree. Humans are the most complex thing on earth, millions of books have been written to describe humans from the physical to the mental side, starting from life needs, economics, psychology, mental health, self-resilience, reasoning, health, etc. However, there has not been a single book that has been able to describe humans completely and accurately

Google search recommends millions of pages (answers) and AI recommends answers (analysis of millions of pages). Both answers are recommendations and the final decision is in our own hands.

The difference is that AI can learn on its own, the better the reference, the better the answer, combined with algorithms, robot systems and sensors, very sophisticated technology will be created. I agree with you that AI will never completely replace humans, but many humans will be replaced by AI, especially routine and common jobs. It will be worse than the google search era which has made us so dependent on it


Yes, I totally agree. Hopefully one day AI will be deemed illegal everywhere before it's too late

There are some obvious things like that the Sun revolves around the Earth, and if there will be enough texts with this statement how will AI find out that this info is outdated? Next it can find that another popular idea is that the Earth revolves around the Sun, and how AI can know that this answer is incorrect also? All those bots are learning on provided by human beings information and it compares what is most mentioned, probably in some authoritative sources, but info can be not totally accurate or out of date and relying on that AI will evaluate all that correctly is IMO too thoughtlessly.

Yeah, Of course, no matter how advanced AI is, it will never be accurate. One of the most dangerous is if everyone relies on AI and there are certain groups who deliberately manipulate news or writing on the internet, that is clearly a massive mistake. Especially if people forget that AI is an aid and we need to validate it

To be honest, I only tried ChatGPT occasionally and immediately didn't like it because it would ruin my frame of mind and make me lazy to look for references to compare things.

Not everyone but many. I saw so many times when a calculator was used as the proof for result of some mathematical operation. If it is about 1+1 it usually can be okay, but some say that if to divide a number by another number over many iterations you'll get a zero az a result. Because a calculator gvives that answer... If most AI answers will be more or less correct, all his answers will become authoritative and it is the problem. Like nowadays some use Wikipedia as authoritative source, but Wikipedia itself doesn't consider itself as authoritative source because each and every can edit it...

Relying on AI is a threat. :-\

Well, if using Chat GPT and any form of AI will result in forum members receiving just a neutral tag (if that), then we literally have no deterrent against account farmers. A recent case where a signature spammer who either uses AI or pays someone else to post on his behalf received a negative tag from me but the majority consensus was it should have been a neutral tag.

I think AI will play a bigger role in the near future when account farmers start using it more and more in order to meet their quotas for signature campaigns and with that they quality of post content will fall even further. Even reporting posts and poster does not really have any effect as most of the spammers and super-spammers are enrolled on the Stake signature campaign and their campaign manager seems to hiring many with (negative and) neutral tags for spamming or being alt-accounts.

Sorry, looks like I missed your reply and just realized it

I really like your statement about Wikipedia, and most people have considered Wikipedia to be the most complete digital library and considered the most valid source, even though in reality there is no such guarantee. Maybe for general knowledge Wikipedia has valid information but for specific knowledge there are usually only a few valid references. And anyone can edit articles on Wikipedia, I remember in the past I often edited Wikipedia to insert backlinks in it because Wikipedia has a high DA PA  :D

And if conditions like that happen to AI (it is very likely to happen in the future) then it is very dangerous, mass errors could occur because the source of the information is wrong and the information is taken by the AI ​​as the answer.

Well honestly I really try to understand where exactly you are coming from but I seem not to get your concept full but then I will comment with regard to your topic, the use of chatgpt is almost same as the use of AI and on the forum here are a few guidelines to use it if it becomes a most you use it, one of the situations that permits you use an AI to make Post and create contribution is the use of it to structure your sentence but not to copy and paste everything that was gotten from the AI boot, if it helps to reconstruct your words or sentence then it could be permitted to post that so your English will be well understood by everyone who reads your post.

Using Ideas gotten from the AI boot isn't allowed a sits seen as plagiarism and is punishable , there are threads in beginners and help where you can find more details about the use of AI generated content on the forum..