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March 07, 2024, 02:19:58 PM
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Quote from: Agbamoni link=topic=5487928.msg63771510#msg63771510

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

football comes with a whole lots of intrigues and emotions and sometimes supporters takes it almost more serious than the players and team management. It's very normal for most supporters to go all out to show their love for a particular team and I can say that it's one of the factors that makes soccer what it is at the moment.

Coming down to this context, going too extreme to the extent of killing an opponents fan is not just irresponsible and uncalled for, it's a crime that is punishable by the law. The least thing the club should do is to to take all necessary measure  measures that will see to it that the perpetrator of the act is brought to book. You can't be careful enough and everyone has the right to support whoever team he chooses to without fear of being intimidated or molested be the host team. If this isn't taken seriously, events like this will repeat itself and with time fans will become scared to wash games outside of their home.

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March 07, 2024, 02:23:14 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.



That's very alarming, considering the victims come from foreign soil and just come to show support to their team, the perpetrators are ultra-supporters, and the authorities should see to it that such a thing will not happen again or they will lose foreign visitors and revenues coming from tourists and the government of other countries will issue travel alerts for that country.

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Police have said 1000 officers will be deployed at the match.
I don't think this is enough they should employ more CCTV and civilian officers, football is one of the games where there are so many fanatics and they will go to the point of harming the fans of the opposite team, to bent their anger and frustration whenever their favorite team losses a game.

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March 07, 2024, 02:38:57 PM
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This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.
Yeah those suspects don't respect other peoples decision especially supporting the rival team. Though different races, cultures, behaviors and attitudes but we don't really know the whole story here maybe they are having verbal atercations which is very common between supporters in a sports but yeah we should not be hostile or being provocative to other supporters just to avoid some kind of danger. We should also maintain awareness to our surroundings stay out of the aggressive crowds that might cause any injuries if something bad will happen.



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March 07, 2024, 02:43:27 PM
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So sad my condolences to their beloved families we have to be very careful with anything I am doing more to anything called competition. As a person when you go to a foreign land you just have to be very careful on a normal not to talk of competitive stuff that involves crowd which is supporting differently this is something we should know that no body will come to your house and make jest of you then you will be Happy and comfortable with that act only you should be able to understand this...

I wonder why you will go to someone's country a foreign land as football fan you went then and start been nonchalant of yourself  making alot of noice showingoff more than the host team immensely now it has leads to uncessary banter which leads to your death I am not happy with the whole thing but we should learn how to comport ourselves not everything we will take to heart start making troubles and problems for Yourself and other people......

As a visitor where ever you go try be very  reserved and behave yourself immensely........

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March 07, 2024, 03:16:34 PM
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May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

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Lol, they didn't die...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.

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March 07, 2024, 03:37:57 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.
Fans banter has always been something we have Experienced over the years and it's not just found across Europe alone but also in other countries where they do play football and other sports so it's very important we stay away from it because just like this which has been reported, some can actually be very intensed to the point it could claim lives but if we  avoid them well enough, we wouldn't have to be victims to know how such things happen, sometimes been careful about the banter may not be enough as some one can just be affected just by been around the area where such is happening, been conscious of our location too at some point is key and important.

Especially in away games fans should be careful not to be the reason a problem is started so they don't eventually get into issues that will cost them their lives or resources even, going to enjoy the game and go back home there after should be the aim of the fans and not to go make trouble.

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March 07, 2024, 03:40:39 PM
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May their two souls rest in  peace 🕊️🕊️

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Lol, they didn't die...

Okay I now understand better well anything anyone is doing let's just be careful and guided thanks alot for your humble opinion and response...

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The force said they have spoken to the men in hospital and they are "OK".
Moreover, how are these news related to gambling? It's not even related to the soccer match itself, since the two English men were stabbed on a neighbourhood, near Colosseum, by a group of six or seven masked people. It was probably a robbery attempt and not a fight among soccer fans.

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.
That is a common crime, like we use to see in third world countries in a daily basis. What shocks here is that Italy wasn't supposed to be presenting this kind of scenario to their tourists, considering it's a first world country in the heart of western European continent. Criminality is spreading fast in Europe these days. Right after the attack, 1000 police officers were deployed to the streets, however, why didn't they do this before the occurred? After all, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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March 07, 2024, 03:47:02 PM
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In my opinion, cases like these are things that happen every day, unfortunately there are people who leave their homes and stay on the streets to commit crimes and when you investigate the case well you will discover that the criminals who keep committing these types of crimes are people who They have financial conditions that allow them to live without depending on crimes, so they commit these crimes for pleasure. in other words, they are sick people who, in addition to being arrested, sentenced to spend years in prison, must also have psychological support, if there are cameras in many streets in that place, it may be possible to identify the criminals, I know that in this article it says that the criminals were covered by masks on their faces, but having cameras in every corner of the city

At some point these criminals will remove the masks from their faces and with this the cameras will capture their faces and with computer programs it will be possible to identify who they are and the police will be able to arrest them. now this is something shameful for Italy, which must invest more in security, although cases like these are in frightening numbers in all countries, countries must still start investing a lot in security, increase the number of police on the streets, increase cameras in cities , increase the security budget. Rich countries focus a lot on increasing the budget for the military and forget about the police and as a consequence we see cases like these

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Edit: BBC provide a better information, "Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome" here is the link https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-68501921

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Brighton fan Joey Thorpe told BBC Radio Sussex: "We were walking home from a bar and being casual, no chanting and in normal clothes. We just got jumped from behind by about six guys all in balaclavas, all wearing black and hiding their faces."
There is no indication whether the attackers were Roma supporters.

I thought as much, thank you for this link and the information. This is why it's very necessary to read the content of the news before assuming anything. The bloggers nowadays mislead people with their attention catching headlines. I was wondering how such thing would happen when securities are around to protect every fans.

However, the way some fan base react to opponents fans when their team lost a match as if their life depend on it is very uncalled for. Sometimes, I do avoid watching match in a public viewing center because of things like this. Some people are not tolerating at all and can get angry unnecessarily. Football in particular is a game of fun and your team can not be a loser forever. When you are mocked for losing today, you might win tomorrow and laugh. There's no point in harming someone supporting a different team no matter how they mock your team.

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March 07, 2024, 04:14:32 PM
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It is very bad, and that is man inhumanity to man. Stabbing someone who came on a vacation to watch a match should not be treated as such. That is a pure wickedness I don't know how football fan takes arguments or banters so seriously while the footballers are making there money on a cool way every week while some people kill themselves for nothing the funny part is that a footballer would play for a club this season and maybe baught by another club nest year. You can see that footballers don't keep malice because there business is not a permanent business which a club can hire you at any moment. Somany youth have lost there life due to gamble anguement yet this footballers in question is waxing stronger and making money every week. It pains me to see that poor minded people kill themself all because of football anguement.

Please let us control our tongues and know what to ague about that will not cut our life short all in the name of gambling argument because it has taken alot of life. Let Us not lost our life for people that are making there money. Just take a look at players like Messi and Ronaldo how long they have been in football yet I haven't heard anything about them arguing but they make their money an becomes more popular.

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March 07, 2024, 04:40:19 PM
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something like this would only happen to an adult who thinks like a child.
I mean, if you are a supporter of a team, you should not behave outside the limits of a team supporter because if you do something like this, it is not only yourself who will be harmed, but also the team will get a bad reputation.
this is the reason I don't watch football matches live or even almost never because I avoid things like this because I only see that I am old enough and married, I am very embarrassed if this happens because ambition and emotions are very big when it comes to each other banter with supporters of other teams.

maybe in the past I often watched football live to support my favorite team and at the same time bet on the match with my friends, but after becoming more mature and old enough, I would definitely prefer to watch and support my favorite team from my room and see it in person online without having any risk.

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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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I will like thank you for this information and I would like everyone reading this to be careful enough not to hurt other people's feelings because of supporting a particular clubs especially if we are not in our locality where we can always boast of having friends around that could safeguard us from problems which may arise anytime. There were people who had lost there life because of sport and supporting their club. We all need to behave mature and do things in a way that would not cause problems for us, and likewise we don't have to say words that would hurt other people's feelings because we all are humans and we need to think before we talk so we that cause problems for ourselves.

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This kind of incident question the security of travellers in that country so the government should take some action of they want people to travel and especially it is one of the country where tourism contribute to the economy in the considerable amount.

As away supporter we have to know our limits too and which is the safe place and what are the things that can really hurt others.

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March 07, 2024, 05:53:59 PM
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Seems like it's not just because of an argument between fan base faction why that happened.

According to the article:
"The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen".

If the motive is to just defend their respective team and end up in a heated argument, why there are lost items on the victims?

Either way, even how much a fan is careful to themselves, there are always bad people roaming around that will harm people unexpectedly.
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I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

Yes I quite agree with your first idea that prevention is always better than cure, but I don't think there is anything else they should do, they only came with the intention to watch and support their pride team compete, I am sure that they are one of the true brighton fans so they can take the time to watch their pride team even abroad. I understand that prevention is better than cure but this kind of thing is already a fairly common occurrence that occurs at the stadium between the two camps, there are always people who start problems with supporters of their enemy club so that there is a commotion that always produces victims in it.

However we always hope for the best, football is more fun when the fans are orderly until the game is over, but yes as I said there are always people between one of the two camps of fans who make the security hassle, and it is not easy to control thousands of fans who are in a heated situation especially when the team they are proud of loses, and sometimes things like that are very likely to happen when you don't make fun of the opposing fans at all, so I think it is very difficult to really prevent, unless you just watch at home.

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March 07, 2024, 06:24:17 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Well this has not direct correlation to me sitting in my room and placing my bets, most likely they are not even gamblers because if they were, they would have learnt how to control their emotions. We can call the attackers addicted supporters because they fail to understand that football is a game of sports that is meant to spread love, unity and entertainment. They allowed themselves display the opposite of everything that football came to do. Now both supporters and their attackers may possibly not watch the match, which is very bad. We should be careful on how we do things to avoid falling victims of something like this.

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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

Fans are naturally noisy and will always promote their club anywhere. You will find them in different locations of cities singing the praises of their team and the host fans should tolerate that. The home fans shouldn't forget that they also travel to other countries to support their team. Football is a sport that is peaceful and unites people from different countries, so attacking visiting fans is bad. The investigation is still ongoing to determine the reason behind this attack because there is no proof that it is related to the game since these fans were also robbed. Maybe it could be a case of armed robbery. The law enforcement agencies should be able to arrest these attackers and bring them to book. I grew up in an area with a high crime rate so I am always security conscious and avoid areas that have high records of crime. I don't blame the fans because Italy is a beautiful country that everyone would like to explore and enjoy the country.

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March 07, 2024, 07:00:36 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.

Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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Well these kinds of things happen on a steady and this happens as a result of the fans not being cautious that they are actually not at home and the need for them to know this is vital because at every moment something might pop up football is really crazy and it makes football fans do all sort of things just because of the love they have for the game. And moreover football is only a sport and the people watching or supporting the club are of different personalities so I would like to agree that staying off from arguments is best because you never can tell the person you are arguing with.
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March 07, 2024, 07:07:14 PM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

It's really wrong for opposite countries to have such character when it comes to matches or sports that were meant to be for funs and nothing else. I think some people takes this sport of a thing too far. I see no possible reason why we should fight or hurt our selfs over games.nthe worst part of this, is that show no concern about innocent people who has no evil intentions coming to watch a friendly away match.
We should be careful though for those who are really great lovers of sports and always travels to show support for their team. same news I got, in the recent caf match that was played in Africa, where we hear opposing countries sendung threats about killing the away country supporters if their country had lost. The game was supposed to be fair but at the end, they eventually won and no harm was done. We should be vigilant please.

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March 07, 2024, 08:32:31 PM
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Well these kinds of things happen on a steady and this happens as a result of the fans not being cautious that they are actually not at home and the need for them to know this is vital because at every moment something might pop up football is really crazy and it makes football fans do all sort of things just because of the love they have for the game. And moreover football is only a sport and the people watching or supporting the club are of different personalities so I would like to agree that staying off from arguments is best because you never can tell the person you are arguing with.
Is it more than ball? Some people are just too wicked. You stabbed someone which can lead to death all because of football. Those stabbers need to be arrested. But to be arguing in another country which is not yours, that is not good because you are not in your country. Even if you are in your country, some people do argue about football, but it should be the people that they know like friends. Was argument the cause of the stabbing?

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