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March 07, 2024, 12:34:22 PM
Last edit: March 07, 2024, 02:05:24 PM by Agbamoni
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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March 07, 2024, 12:51:02 PM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging

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March 07, 2024, 12:55:33 PM
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This is very bad to hear. How can fans be stabbed all because they are not supporting their club in a country that is not theirs. I will not say that foreigners should be careful but the stabber should be known and be given the right punishment like to imprison him or her for years if the fans did not die or sentence him with capital punishment if any of the fans die.

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March 07, 2024, 01:01:34 PM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

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March 07, 2024, 01:02:09 PM
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Why check the visitors? It's good for the country's tourism, right?

I don't know why football games are always mixed up with news of accidents and chaos but it seems unsporty. I just wish the fans of each team were as sporty as the players of their preferred team. They are not playing just to win games, they are also playing to promote sportsmanship. Or was that belief already forgotten?

I've seen the worst in one video where a riot really happened and I bet a lot of people were hurt when it ended. I just don't know if someone died on that sad day. This should not happen at all, if one person is cheering for his team then let them. If it is for the opponent of the home team, then let it be. Be competitive in cheering not in brawling.
This incident just shows that there are really people who would kill as a fan and I think they are not on the right mind and should be the ones who are guarded.

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and coming to the incident. This has been on ground for centuries. In locally, my community precisely, whenever two communities played football match they must fight and wound themselves so when I see your thread it was not a new thing for again. So it is for the visitors to be security conscious and protect themselves in the stadium and also the organizers in their turn should provide an adequate security for the audience because in life security is one of the most important thing because if there no security of life then nobody would go out again to watch football because everyone will be afraid that something would happen to them in the place so instead let me stay at home. And also in the year 2005 and there about when club side matches were tough, fans were killing themselves because of football in my community. If one team loss and the fans that win the other made monkery of the loss team then fight mut burst out and they would wound themselves. So this has been on ground for years now.

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March 07, 2024, 01:09:10 PM
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Two English men, in their 20s, were attacked shortly after midnight.
The attack took place in Via Cavour near the Colosseum

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.

It happened after the match ended and far away from the stadium area, I think its a robbery not by hatred because the victims are a Brighton fan.
Im sure the police will catch all of them soon, there must be many of CCTV around that area.

Edit: BBC provide a better information, "Brighton & Hove Albion fans stabbed before Europa match in Rome" here is the link https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-sussex-68501921

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Brighton fan Joey Thorpe told BBC Radio Sussex: "We were walking home from a bar and being casual, no chanting and in normal clothes. We just got jumped from behind by about six guys all in balaclavas, all wearing black and hiding their faces."
There is no indication whether the attackers were Roma supporters.


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Two English men, in their 20s, were attacked shortly after midnight.
The attack took place in Via Cavour near the Colosseum

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The men suffered stab wounds before their wallets and documents were stolen, Italian police have said.

It happened after the match ended and far away from the stadium area, I think its a robbery not by hatred because the victims are a Brighton fan.
Im sure the police will catch all of them soon, there must be many of CCTV around that area.

I think it has something to do with them being a sports fan and they have been a target and maybe trying to hide on the fact that the criminals wanted to look likes it was robbery. And this is not the first time that we have heard this kind of news though after watching the game.

Hopefully police will learn from it, I mean after the game they should be at least visible to the coliseum and near the area to scare away would be criminals or fans targeting the opposite fans after this kind of highly emotional games.
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March 07, 2024, 01:21:33 PM
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The conclusion is don't travel to Rome or you could be stabbed. Grin

I think they want to give a physiologic effect to Brighton players, so they're playing with feeling in anxious. Roma should be in favored position, there's no way for them to lose.

As a sport fan, of course it's nothing new when the fanatic fans will do anything in order to destroy the opponent fans. We can see it in anywhere especially on Ronaldo vs Messi debates.

 
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March 07, 2024, 01:22:07 PM
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and coming to the incident. This has been on ground for centuries. In locally, my community precisely, whenever two communities played football match they must fight and wound themselves so when I see your thread it was not a new thing for again. So it is for the visitors to be security conscious and protect themselves in the stadium and also the organizers in their turn should provide an adequate security for the audience because in life security is one of the most important thing because if there no security of life then nobody would go out again to watch football because everyone will be afraid that something would happen to them in the place so instead let me stay at home. And also in the year 2005 and there about when club side matches were tough, fans were killing themselves because of football in my community. If one team loss and the fans that win the other make mockery of the lost team then a fight might burst out and they would wound themselves. So this has been on the ground for years now.
Violence and physical attacks have been the bad feature of football games before and now, all over the world and this is not peculiar to only one region alone, because as you mentioned that it happens in your locality alone or frequently, it's only limited in the international football because of rules and regulation that ban such actions.


But then since football is a game that requires physical attack and contact on the ball, it becomes very easy for players to engage in such an act that goes against normal football plays, although in many places such acts are getting wiped out and none nonexistent at the moment,  but in Africa, we may likely see that more frequently.

 
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I think it's only in my country where the price of a person's life seems cheap just because of fanatical football fans, I'm sure everyone doesn't agree with that, every home fan must give priority to the visiting supporters, no matter who visits, apart from that, visiting supporters must also You can really respect the home fans so that undesirable things don't happen, I believe that by maintaining behavior and attitudes that are not excessive, everything will be safe, sometimes the supporters are now very fanatical in an excessive way.

I read about the victim's wallet being stolen which means there is another motive besides the banter said by the OP from the two supporters, I know that it is not easy to protect ourselves in another country because any security definitely depends on ourselves, I am also not a football supporter who is a very fanatic or someone who likes watching live football events from their favorite team, I just think simply, namely watching at home is more calm and comfortable for me than watching live, especially in another country, even though it is my favorite team. I think a case like this will definitely be resolved easily by the existing security forces.  Wink

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You see those sets of people called "die-hard fans." They can go to any length when an argument is raised against their supporting team. When ever one comes across such a set of people, the best thing to do is to avoid them and walk away because they can do some crazy stuff just to prove a point. 
 
This incident might be a result of disagreement between those who lost their lives and those who perpetuate that act. It's very heartbreaking for the relatives of those people who lost their lives to travel alive and come back home in a body bag.

 
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March 07, 2024, 01:32:29 PM
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There is a saying, prevention is better than cure. It is good to stay away from trouble especially when you are not in your right zone. These Fan should understand that they are not in their country and some countries are not very accommodative. Some individuals are racist, criminals, serial killers etc. They should understand that not all supporter of football are good persons. So, it is good to stay solo and support your team instead of going around starting unnecessary banter when you don't know about the next persons you are talking to.

I understand the caution aspect of it that you are trying to move into but football and fans go together and fans need to be protected especially in foreign land. If every fan is that careful then people won't travel to watch teams play. There is a responsibility that home fans should have over their strangers, to hit a fan is different from stabbing or causing bodily injury, that is purely a case of attempted murder and not just assault to the victims. The police are already on their case and I believe they will get them and punish them so that it will also be a lesson to other fans . I know Italian fans are violent but they don't have to inflict injury on the fans when it is not a crowd fight.

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No one can tell if there was an argument between the two stabbed Brighton fans, and the five Romans. From my own perspective, I think that they were attacked, as the visitors were easily noticed by the indigenes of Rome. Why I said so is because, their wallets was stolen, so it might be that they were robbed by street gangsters.

Travelling to another country to support your club to me is touring, and that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be vigilant with people around us or careful, because it is not everyone that we see have good mind for strangers, some can take advantage of you as a visitor and steal from your or kill you in the process of stealing from you. We should also not involve in any argument over there. I am happy that the two Brighton fans did not die.

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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


I rather think that home fans should be more receptive and accommodating to their visitors, they should not take advantage of those who come to their soil to cheer their team up because they are few and can not over power the home crowd. If the 2 victims didn't taunt the italians things should be taking as fun. Although no report that I have read to the cause but only that it happened in a restaurant, they seem to be okay.

The activites around football games and fans creates more funfair and razzmatazz but when it becomes violent then it will discourage gentle fans to travel for such fun. For me I like watching the game but where it becomes violent and endangering life, it is discouraging
This is the thing that i dont like when trying out to go into other places on which you are really that having that kind of hesitation when it comes safety or security. You cant really be able to make yourself having
that kind of fun just because you are really that minding about having other people would really be having that kind of intent on which they might be touched up on the time that you do cheer up on your favorite team
and turns out that they do get offended and they would really be that trying out to do harm into you without you knowing or noticing and this is one of the reason on why i dont really like
in going into those other places not unless if we are talking about home.

When it comes to security then you should really be that careful because you dont know on how people been thinking off you, not unless if the said city does have that less crime rate
then i might be that confident but if not then you would really be skeptical on going into these places.

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March 07, 2024, 01:56:40 PM
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Two Brighton supporters were stabbed in Rome last night ahead of tonight's Europa League round of 16 first leg tie against Roma.



Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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That's very sad, sometimes I keep imaging how someone will just stabbed his follow human for no just cause. is very sympathetic I just pray those victims survive the incident,football is just part of intertainment and also for fun,I'm still  wondering why  fans always make a big deal out of it.

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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.
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Some fans are fanatical, are the youth who support Brighton rioting or what?

But clearly this is not something good and even bad behavior where they or some tourists will be afraid if they are approaching this exciting news. And with the pleasure of watching the Europa League match will end up being tragic for them because it is too risky when it happens like this.
Better to watch football from home while betting it will be fun too. But I admit that watching live matches will be more different sensations.

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March 07, 2024, 02:10:54 PM
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.

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The reasons people watch football while on vacation is because they needed some entertainment. It's not right to involve in argument that involve life and death, as a stranger in a place you haven't been to before or a place you are not familiar with try not to put yourself in trouble. It is only trouble that will make such incident to happen. IMO the two Brighton fans were there for entertainment but ended with a qural that involves injuries. Let's learn from them. The people that also stabbed the Brighton fans might be the fans of the Brighton opponents.

The link didn't say they were arguing with those 7 men, the two were just tourists and watching the game. The article is just not saying anything about how it happened.

But obviously, those 7 men who attacked them knew they were tourists and knew they are going to be helpless if they robbed them.
What is crazy is that they separated the two, each of them is treated in a different hospital.
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Rumors says they were away supporters, and the showoff was immense. I feel there is a need that if a Fan goes on a vacation to watch a game in a foreign country. They should be security conscious, observant and stay out of unnecessary banters that could lead them to troubles or death. It a game for fun and merriment not something we should take too personally to heart to cause trouble.


This is why you should be in a low key mode if you are foreign in an area when watching sports with fan based. There’s always a die hard fan that resorting to violence once their home team didn’t win the game while the foreign guys support the enemy team since it’s hot in the eyes of home fans.

This is always happening in my country even on a small sports tournament locally. People that is just visiting is always being a victim of harassment and violence just because their team is winning while they arr supporting hard.
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