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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

There's a big difference between the terms "luxury" and "high quality" for me.

"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similiar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.

"Luxury" items instead are things which are very expensive and normally bought for "status" reasons. They can marginally add to your comfort but are normally not productivity-related. One could argue that if you work in a five-star-hotel while travelling can increase your productivity because of all its amenities, but usually a "high quality" service like a three/four star hotel will bring you the same benefits.

Well productiveness can also be enhanced if whatever you're using is comfortable to use and in general, most luxurious stuff can be the ones that'd give you said comfort. But there's a limit I say. It's to the level where buying stuff after a certain point of performance just doesn't mean anything since, well, it provides you with minimal increase in comparison to buying something on the bottom end. You can liken it I guess to the GPU market, upgrading from say 1050 to an RTX 3000 or even just 2000 is a huge upgrade. but moving from a 3000 to a 4000 just doesn't seem that worth it in most cases.

There's also the difference between luxurious stuff that is "useful" and, well, luxurious stuff. Stuff that are just plated with stuff that scream "I'm rich" just to showcase that, well, they're rich.

I've had similar experiences before, but despite the comfort that comes with it, you can only do what you can afford to give to satisfy that comfort. Don't get me wrong, that not everyone wants to have something luxurious in their lives; most of them simply cannot afford it and would have to sell everything they own. I don't see the point in you getting something that will benefit you while ignoring the fact that what you've given away is just as important or more important as what you've bought.

You should always have a preference scale ranging from the most to the least needed. This allows you to plan for both the one to have now and the one to have later. Don't get too excited to feel included and end up being kicked out into the street for being unable to maintain the luxurious lifestyle you've chosen to pursue in order to feel included and receive more opportunities or enlightenment. You can always get along, but certain things in life should not be sacrificed in order to obtain others.

I once bought a Mac but it didn't make me more productive. I didn't understand the function of the Macintosh because I was used to Windows, so I chose to sell it again and buy a regular laptop that uses Windows. Additionally, when I use a mac, many of my friends think I'm "different" because I live in the countryside, which makes me uncomfortable.

So, I don't think luxury items will make us more productive, but the items we need will make us productive, whatever the price.

Just for the clarification MacBook Pro doesn't even come near the high end productivity or gaming laptop but it does offer decent performance but the price you pay is not for the product but for the brand name so remember you really need that MacBook or the same job can be done with an actual laptop.

Luxury or expensive doesn't necessarily mean comfort, most of the time is for the statement not really for it's utility.

Its not on the quality of the item that makes us more productive, whether it’s luxurious or not, that won’t serves as the basis as productivity greatly relies with how we can manage and perform our task with great quality. I have not purchased ever since an expensive laptop but I still think I’m productive. As long as it’s capable to help you at you work, then there’s no problem actually even if you use an average price laptop.

well, everybody has their own way of analyzing things from their own perspective, which I feel is influenced by the environment they live in. The environment in which you live has a significant impact on the way you think and perceive things.

For example, someone who is accustomed to living in a developed, classical environment with basic amenities such as computers, microphones, and other modern luxuries may not even consider them as noteworthy.

On the other hand, for someone living in a suburban, rural, or developing country, such items may be seen as luxuries. In such places, even having a spacious room can be considered a luxury. This is why some people refer to essentials like computers as luxuries, even though they are crucial for individuals in today’s technology-driven world, whether they live in urban or rural areas.

Well, let's put it this way, you're not the majority of people that can just buy that luxury item without worries because you need it for work, it would still be a luxury even if it's a necessity for you, luxury for me means that it doesn't have any purpose besides it's function and it's effect on someone's social status, it can never be a necessity as I believe that a thing can be considered a necessity if you break down to the most basic and content life that you can be and if you can't live without it or you won't function for a day without it then that's definitely a necessity, maybe someday when everyone can afford that laptop, it might change group and become a necessity because everyone's got one.

A high performance laptop could be a luxury for some, but it's first of all a professional tool, so it's not really surprising that it improves your work. But many luxurious items are just that - they don't have any other purpose other than showing off wealth and being marginally better than medium quality counterparts. Are there any jobs in this world that could be made easier if you use an expensive sports car like Ferrari? Or Rolls Royce? I don't think so.

Maybe some of the food that you might experience? I think it's one of the most common things is that you pay for expensive food. It would depend on what you are talking about, of course, there are luxury dining, buffets, etc. Maybe we can consider this something you don't usually pay for and then like buy 10x the price or something. I think it has become a luxury if that happens.

I thought of food the first time when I read this lol.

I have never bought a Mac myself. The things that I need to do on a Mac I can do on my laptop with a different brand. Mac is way more expensive than, say, Acer or Asus or HP. A low-quality Mac in terms of specs is even more expensive than a high-quality Acer, for example. So, it's not a necessity for me to prefer Mac. If I buy one, that would be luxurious of me already.

If you particularly need the unique specs of Mac, then it is a necessity. Luxury is beyond what's necessary. Luxury connotes excess.

Maybe I'll mention the story about traveling to Peru, and OP if you own a Rolex watch giving it to the natives there is really ironic, it's not something they needed in life "for you, not for me", there people had fun with Ayahuasca and talked about spiritual life.

So our views on life are not always the same, so from differences come standards of quality of life and on the part of those who share the same stance can ridicule those who are less superior, or admire those who are more talented than them. What you feel about life is a reflection of how you are adapting to the environment around you, so in addition to that, the world also has countless other nuances of life, just be happy with it what you think and seek relationships with people who have things in common with you, do not impose your personal views on the outside because disagreements can create conflicts.

world isn't always white and black and linear, its always dynamic and full of shades, same with stuff like luxurious or functional stuff, you can get windows computer as you said at cheaper price indeed, but we all know some people might also wanted something that just works don't wanna tinker around also to increase prestige.
I mean some jobs require you to look professional to do professional thing I mean imagine you brought out that gaming laptop which they say cheap but functional got all the rgbs in this world embedded to the back case of your laptop while you're trying to secure a deal, what the other party would think? is that professional enough?
same with mac from your example, if you're a dev, or at least a video editor, mac can helps a ton, its efficiency for its power currently unmatched.
I mean some people might say that mac is overpriced for no reason but actually there's a reason, thats the build quality and integrated ecosystem with their other product line to be fair.
but yeah, sometime a company can be a rip off too though.

For everyday items like clothes, pants, and shoes, I prefer to invest in high-quality pieces. They tend to last longer than cheaper alternatives. In the long run, they can actually be more economical. Think of it like this: if you divide the cost of a high-quality item by the number of days you'll use it, it often ends up costing less per wear than a cheaper item that needs frequent replacements

High quality is different from luxury. In my opinion, luxury items go beyond just quality. They often have a brand name attached that elevates your social status. For now, I'm not focused on that aspect. I think luxury items are more relevant for people in high-profile careers who interact with a lot of wealthy individuals. A luxury brand might help build trust with those people, but for everyday use, high quality is perfectly sufficient.

When we can distinguish what we need to make our work easier to do, of course we will not think about luxury and it is very different for those who want to look luxurious with what they use but they don't need these things, of course this will make them have to spend more money on what they don't need, but in this case it really depends on a person's personality whether they like luxury goods but they don't need them or they choose goods that suit their needs.

Having luxury stuffs can increase your relations too because there are some people only want to get close when you have something, this is useful when you want to build your personal branding which useful if you want to become a content creator or businessman.

I don't know where you live, but MacBook is a luxury stuff in third world countries, many people bought it for no reason. In my country there's a group in my country that only for the rich can enter the group. In order to join them, you need at least iPhone 13. Also colleagues in the company where I work only want to be a friend with Apple user, it give pressures to other people to buy it without any reason, just in order to gets excommunicated.

Correct, but MacBook is better in terms of survivability (battery life), lightweight and smooth experience, it's why Macbook is better for business.

I think luxury is not necessary when you want to be productive. High quality equipment will do the same exact result as the luxurious ones. Most of the luxurious things in this world as we think has higher quality than those top of the line in the market, but the reality is, people are just purchasing it a even higher price because of it's brand or name.
I do understand that your standard of living depends on your income and yes when you earnings are higher now more than before, your standard of living will tend to increase as well in terms of expenditures to live at the comfort of your choice. This comfort may have a significant effect on your productivity, one example is the laptop with high specs that let's you finish your job at a fast pace with more ease compared to the budget level laptop, another example is when you have invested into a comfortable and cozy space that let's you get enough rest for you to become productive again the next day is also an essential part which most us may have overlooked.
Again, luxury may not be necessary, but high quality does. Afterall, luxury are just stuff which this crazy rich people tend to purchase without any relatively high importance to them, they just bought it because they like it and it's not really a necessity for them.

Lol! You are considering a MAC laptop as a luxury item! That's odd! My windows gaming laptop is way more expensive than a Macbook. But I believe I am able to put my point forward. What you think is luxury, may not be seen as a luxury to other people. I may not see a Macbook as a luxury item but I definitely see a Hermes handbag as a luxury item. There are people, who doesn't consider a Hermes handbag as a luxury item.

What I believe, the game is all about finding the right balance between cost and value for your individual needs and circumstances. If a more expensive item significantly enhances your productivity and satisfaction, then it may well be worth the investment. That becomes a necessity. There's a thin line between what you want and what you need!

I completely support your idea. Yes, it is true. There is a difference between the terms “luxury” and “high quality.” High quality products never mean that they are luxury things, but rather they are basic needs.

On the other hand, there are many luxurious and expensive things that are actually useless, but rather are for bragging and showing off among the rich.

As for high-quality products that perform their work with great perfection and lead to increased productivity, I prefer to buy them even if they are expensive and I consider them a basic need and not a luxury.

Luxury to me is anything beyond necessity that is used only for peace of mind and eyes and will not provide me with any means of subsistence. But when something is taken for necessity and it costs more then it is not a luxury from my point of view because I can get better results from here. If it is necessary to use higher prices to facilitate the path from where I make my living, it is not a luxury because if my workspace is very simple then my productivity will increase from there and it will be possible to work in the long run.

if a high priced item is due to quality and efficiency, and aids productivity of generating money/self sustainability/financial independence, then its a necessity

if a high priced item is due to popularity, vanity, but doesnt aid productivity then its a luxury

I do not care to pay for quality and if it is something that I can use to generate a income with.

Let's take your vehicle as an example... You need a reliable mode of transport to get to work.. not something that will fail to start every morning when you have to go to work, so for that reason I will pay more for a more reliable car.

Some people feel satisfied buying luxury goods with proven quality so that they use the goods more easily and are needed, while other people think that using luxury goods is only for the needs of being in a certain environment. The level of effectiveness of use cannot be measured by expensive prices because there are some people who see the quality of goods as supporting their use.

The problem is people who have low sources of income but insist on buying expensive items, even though they don't have the financial resources to support them. The level of needs must be adjusted to abilities and if it is forced then it is not the right choice because it actually adds new problems.

Usually we buy goods according to existing finances and generally the goods purchased can be used for work needs. For example, buying a laptop and I see more usage needs even though the price is slightly higher. Because if you buy a laptop according to your work needs, it can make your work easier to do.

Goods are indeed expensive, but when they increase our performance in a more productive direction, I really agree because basically what we buy has its own benefits, even though for other people, for example, these goods are useless because our needs and other people's needs are different. So in this case the luxury category or not is not a specific benchmark but rather a necessity that is required personally or formally from superiors or in order to speed up the work process. I am honest about the demands of the world of work and have more or profitable results after the increase. For example, in job competition, the demand to produce work needs to be supported by several things which automatically make us incur additional costs, if the result is profit then it becomes a necessity.
So, if there is another option that is cheaper but provides the same value as expensive goods, then as a businessman you will take the first option, which is cheap but has the same output. Even if the margin is small, it goes back to the long-term or short-term needs that we want to target.

Yeah I bought a branded motorcycle myself way back 2017 with my profit in crypto and never regreted that decision to be honest as it performs and help us very well as our everyday use with my extended family and does not gave us headaches when it comes to maintenance. I also bought a branded watch and cellphone that performs great. I am a guy that do not sacrifice quality over price or quantity but that means a lot of savings to me of course. I am not a rich guy but yeah this forum help me that much fund those things. Those things are not totally a liability because I needed all of them with my job so maybe it's worth my investment.

Of course, this doesn't just talk about satisfaction in playing, but more about the functionality and speed of the work devices we use when we work. If a YouTuber or worker who works with visual graphics really needs high specs for maximum results

However, there are also weaknesses when we download applications that are not native and that we have to download for work requirements, usually some are compatible and some are rejected by our device's system and the application is considered a virus because it is not genuine or uses a default application.

So far, maybe like laptops and smartphones, I feel they are quite expensive necessities that are my current needs. Apart from that, vehicles such as cars too. However, I think it doesn't have to be a good one, but still I feel that a car is something expensive.
However, if it is a necessity, then no matter whether it is expensive or not, then we need to work on it. This has reasons, such as smooth work, and others. However, it would be different if we spent money on something expensive, but we rarely use it. so I feel that it is a luxurious life, and spending quite a lot of money on something that we don't necessarily use. However, for necessity, I think it is a natural thing.

In terms of battery life MacBook is the best but talking about productivity it's really not and I wonder what really mentioned that it helped him in his life?

And we have to accept the fact that we use apple product more of our financial state than it's actual utility even one of my friend who is into business not really an apple ecosystem guy but he have been asked by why are you having Android that forced him to buy an apple just for the sake of avoiding that question.

When a person buys items of high quality which are ofcourse of an outrageous price just to boost productivity, I do not see it as a luxurious lifestyle. The purpose is clearly stated which is "to boost productivity". Most people who chase luxury have no purpose aside boosting their self esteem, showing off their wealth and social status. It is necessary to state that, not all items of luxury are of high quality. The fact that you bought a particular item at a higher price does not mean it will be of higher quality or more durable than the one with a lesser price. Luxury is all about your purchasing power, if you can afford it, why not?

I do not chase luxury but if I want to boost my productivity and make my work easy and more efficient, I will go for the best item regardless of the price I'm going to pay for it. We do not need to bargain on things that are obviously of necessity to us, those who are chasing after luxury spend a lot in acquiring things are not one of their basic necessities.

I think when it comes to necessity, one should go for high quality so that you can take the utmost advantage from the item, and you can use it for its purpose to where it suits best. However, there are high quality items that are not that expensive and ultimately luxurious for us. As long as it can be reliable to aid in your job, and productivity won’t be compromised, then there’s no reason to go for the most expensive one. But honestly, one should not go to the cheapest item as well as for sure its sustainability and quality will be at risk. You don’t want to waste your time and money aiming for the cheapest one and after days or months, the item can no longer serve you anymore.

Macbook or any laptop for productivity isn't a luxury but it's an investment to be considered because you'd use that for your job and tasks which will earn you money. Luxury are things that you don't really need but you are able to purchase it extravagantly like you have tons of spare money and you have nothing to use for that. I'd go for the high quality things that I'll need for my productivity but I'll avoid spending money on luxurious things that I may just be disappointed later on because it has the same purpose as my other thing. Things like a macbook, despite being expensive but it's proven to be worth the purchase because you can use that for several years before you upgrade again.

I think a car and also with devices as you've exampled it with computers and laptops. Those folks that are living in a country where commute is toxic, they'd rather purchase an expensive car and treat it as an investment because it is giving them convenience while they travel. We know that cars do depreciate over time but the value and convenience that it provides you is worth the buck. There's a lot to justify that but many of the members here live in a country where they have a better public transport and they don't see having cars as something productive but just rather an expensive stuff and luxury.

it's up to you how you look for high quality products that offer a cheap price to save more. If you ask me, I would also prefer to invest in good and high quality products because I am sure that I can use them for a long time, unlike the ones with the price but after you buy it, there will be problems and the worse will be broken immediately, and when it's broken, you need to have it repaired or replaced. If you calculate the costs you spent on repairing the damaged item compared to the price of an item that's a bit pricey but in good quality, the price of both of them is not too far apart.

According to your explanation, it's ascertained that you didn't go for a luxury laptop but one of it that has the capacity to be productive to you by delivering your taxes.
Don't get anyone misleaded because your expression is a misquote.
You can go for luxurious items hence it is affordable and doesn't depreciates your incomes to unproductive outcomes but going after luxurious lifestyles that doesn't profer you worth than your expenses is a useless one.
Everyone wants to grow from their incomes in life but some are over carried away my adopting luxuries as lifestyle meanwhile they struggles to build or maintain reliable financial portfolios while some strives on strictly luxuries to attain luxurious incomes to boosten their incomes portfolios.
Let's be guided.

On your example, you are mixing luxury to high quality because there’s a lot of items that is cheap yet provides a quality that same with luxury items. For example, LV bags is definitely luxury but there’s other manufacturers that can provide same quality materials in cheaper price because they don’t have the brand name. Luxury items become “luxurious” because of their brand and not only due to their quality. Luxurious brand mark up their items exponentially since they are confident with their brand.

With that being said, You should be aiming for high quality item not for luxurious item because other brand can give same quality and comfortable without paying more for the brand names. Don’t be a victim of marketing scheme. Not all luxurious item is high quality some them is just there due to their established brand.

As other members have mentioned that there is very big difference between the high-quality and luxurious stuff like I believe that if one time is luxury and it is important for you and for your work so there is no problem with buying that high quality and luxury stuff because it is important for you and one thing besides this I would not buy it until I am comfortable to buy it like when I feel I can buy it three to four time more till then I would like to use my old version stuff that I am using.

these kinds of things help you to complete your work quickly these can be an expensive laptop or mobile or whatever you use or need for your work. The best is that firstly we need to focus on growing up till we can afford it comfortably till then we should survive with our old version stuff. Dear what do you say aout that? Must share your opinion over this many thanks!

From what i understand, you meant having the taste for luxury, which makes you want to work harder so that you can get more money to afford those luxurious things. Well, it works for most people. You need to have a high taste to chase a high dream, I know for sure. When you start seeing life beyond taking 3 square meals a day, playing video games, and other daily little activities, you will understand that it goes beyond just that. Traveling, going on tours, visiting recreational places like the zoo, taking vacations, being a public figure, and all that shite.

But these things don't just come so easily. If you were not born with a silver spoon, you need to kick your ass day and night at whatever you are doing so that you can reach the level to be able to afford these things with ease. I am not saying you have to work and put your money straight into living such a life; I am saying that you need to work and build a system—a cash flow system—that generates money for you when you don't even work. Only at this level can you easily afford these things without running dry.

There are dozens of good and productive laptops that are many times more convenient than a Macbook. Luxury is a beautiful watch from Rolex or a cool Rolls-Royce car, but can this be compared to a gadget?
I also agree with those who prefer quality, but you can get it by spending reasonable money. In your case, OP, buying a Macbook was just a waste of money, the difference from which, if you bought a different brand of laptop, could be spent on another necessary thing.

My PC could be the only thing that I spent way too much money on, and thankfully my boss helped me for it as well, so I wasn't the only one buying it however I end up using it mostly for work as well. To be fair I do watch movies on it too, why not do that but I have a smart TV that I use to watch stuff too, so my PC is mostly for working. Would I consider it luxury? Well I could have bought a lot cheaper stuff too of course, like whatever is the cheapest PC there is, but then in a few years I would have to buy another, and then another, and then another. Instead, I bought one that has been working like a brand new PC for the past 1.5 years, and I assuming that with little bit of care, it will work for many more years, if any part gets broken, I could just change that, which would be cheaper than replacing the whole thing.

Never indulge in luxury in life. Spend only as much as you need. Luxury is related to income and demand as our income increases, the number of luxuries will continue to increase. Because human demand has no end it keeps on increasing. But even if there is ever a need for luxury goods or services, the more affordable the better. And I think that if the amount saved is used for the benefit of humanity, the total productivity of the country will increase as well as our peace of mind. Every human being in the world has a conscience and judgment and they try to fulfill their needs accordingly.

Have you ever used macbook pro M1, M2, M3? If you've ever used them, I bet you won't find a laptop with better performance than them. Agree that people use Apple products mainly for their luxury rather than for work needs. But it cannot be denied that their expensive products are products of outstanding quality.

I have an iPhone 7 and up to now, other than replacing the battery, I have almost never had to have it repaired, nor have I encountered lag or lag like other old Android phones . Everything still runs smoothly but it's just a bit out of step with society. For me, everything has its price, there will be no cheap product with outstanding quality.

I also live in a third world country and will save to buy a MacBook if it is what I need to be more productive. It is possible that I would make more money that I spent on the laptop if I start putting it in good use. Like d5000 stated there is a clear difference between spending on luxurious products and a high quality one. If I have the option of buying a cheaper phone but I decide to buy an expensive one because of peer pressure or competition, that's luxury. But if I need the expensive phone because it has a feature that I need to perform a profitable task, then it is not luxury but a need. I had a personal experience when the phone I had didn't have enough capacity to install a software I need to to perform a task. Although I had no need for a new phone but I had to raise funds to get a more expensive phone. Some persons might assume that I bought the phone for luxury, meanwhile it was purely for business.

Luxury for its own sake is not a bad thing.  But luxuries beyond one's means certainly bring bad things.  Money should always be respected.  And should count.  If your income is 1000$ then you can spend 500$ but if your income is 500$ and if you spend 1000$ it will definitely not bring you anything good.  You can indulge as much as you can afford.  Luxury is not a bad thing It is definitely not bad to do something good for yourself or live a good life or live a life of luxury.  But it should be within your own capacity.  If you live a life of luxury beyond your means, this luxury will lead to your downfall instead of teaching you good things.

Anything you spend more on that you are to use to create extra wealth to your account it can not be said to be a luxury. It could be expensive as hell but still not a luxurious expense except for when it's done for entertaining and fun purpose. However it's not a bad behavior to live a luxurious life in as much as you can afford the lifestyle and not faking it.

Many of the most important contacts I have made in all my life are people I met in a luxurious and high quality events/places, these persons has really been of a positive effect to my financial life in terms of connections. It's only in an expensive/high quality environment that we can meet people of high quality to create social economic relationships which can in turn elevate our status too.

If you want to appear successful in the neighborhood, buy an expensive car. And most likely you wanna work harder as well because you need to show productivity to the public as well. Its a kind of pressure you want to have on you so that you will work harder. If you are not motivated though, just sell the car.
I couldn't say a luxurious car is a necessity however, you could just buy a motorcycle if you want.

I bought a few goats, just to make sure animals are eating the grasses around my house.  I don't even know how to take care of them.

The concept of luxury has undergone a significant transformation. While it traditionally signified the acquisition of expensive, high-quality goods, a more nuanced understanding is emerging. True luxury, in today's context, transcends mere materialism and emphasizes a holistic approach to well-being. There's no denying the undeniable comfort and satisfaction associated with luxury goods and experiences.  However, responsible consumers are increasingly aware of the financial and environmental implications of unbridled indulgence. The key lies in striking a balance between comfort and sustainability.

Luxury should encompass more than just a high price tag.  The value proposition of a product or experience should be carefully considered. Does it enhance your life in a meaningful way, or is it merely a fleeting indulgence?  Discerning consumers seek experiences that enrich their lives and contribute to their overall well-being. The pursuit of luxury to gain acceptance or project a certain image is ultimately a hollow endeavor.  Meaningful connections are fostered by shared values, genuine interests, and mutual respect.  True luxury lies in cultivating these authentic connections that enrich your life.

Trying out to compare into those branded things into those local or low quality then you would really be that able to notice out their difference.It is really just that it would be just that depending on your purchasing power or capability. If you do saw that you could be able to afford such thing without breaking your bank then go for it but if not then it wouldnt really be that bad to be practical and would be buying something
which is lower price compared into what you are trying out to buy. If you are a wealthy person then these things wont really be an issue or problem for you but if you are someone who do earn average
then you would really be needing to be wise for you to be able to make yourself wont go overdropped with your budget. Money budgeting is important because if you do neglect out even this simple thing
could really mess up your life and this is something that you should really be minding or looking for.

There is only this sentiment of luxury around people who can't afford it or those who are greedy to themselves that instead of using there hard earn money to satisfy themselves they rather save for the rest of there life.

You making yourself comfortable is really not luxury for me though it's expensive which gives it the attributes of luxury but on a personal level I don't consider helping myself luxury.

I do wonder what type of work you're doing that requires an Apple, which could not be done on another possibly cheaper device. However Apple have built up a huge ecosystem to surround their hardware and interactivity between many devices can actually be a saving in the long run, but does leave you captured by one company who may change the rules later on. That being said, it leads back to the often quoted saying that being poor is expensive - buying a slightly more expensive pair of working boots that last many years, as opposed to buying new shoes every year because they wear out quicker is another example. However most people would buy luxury versions of items if money was no issue and are simply living within their budgets.

That was my first thought too. Apple makes popular gadgets for the masses that aren't high quality but rather overpriced. Just look at their phones. You can get the same specs for half the price, but it won't have an apple logo on the back that you can show off.
It was the same with apple headphones when they started making them white so that people could see what brand you use.
I also have a PC that I could easily trade for a workstation made by Apple, but it would be far worse, slower and with less options for upgrade.
People don't get what high quality hardware is. It's not that expensive piece of plastic with a fancy logo.

Ego and self-validity that feel like they want to be recognized is one of the factors in this because for now we prioritize prestige over the value of what we buy in the end.

Actually, things like this are not a problem for those who really want it and with adequate financial conditions but in the end when we live in a middle to lower economic situation we should be wiser in paying attention to this because after all, in my opinion this is quite important to realize from the start because the sense of prestige that is owned will actually be an opening for us who will get more losses in the end.

For some reasons and some situations, it is not wrong to occasionally look for a better price as long as the quality is worth it, but sometimes for now we always impose a will that actually creates new problems for ourselves and needs to be considered in this case it would be better if we are aware of our qualifications because in the end this becomes important so that we do not impose our will too much just because of prestige alone.

I think all things which were luxury will become commonplace in the near-future. Look at automobiles, healthcare, vacations, certain foods and so on... Everything is only getting better and more accessible to ordinary people. Such people would have been called peasants, had they lived in the past. But compared to the peasants from those times, people live like kings and queens now.

That is a good thing. And also the reason why I do not buy the newest stuff but rather wait 2-3 years and then buy it at half price or lower.

Thats the way things have always been. I like to think it is a sign that humanity is always growing into something better than before.

Youa re correct.  High quality simply implies that the materials, the crafting, and performance  of the product, item or service are perfect but not necessarily expensive.

Luxury equals high quality but high quality doesn't equal luxury

In the case of a luxury brand, I would say things like the tesla cybertruck is a luxury.

However, an item can go from high quality to luxury which in the sense of exclusivity. For example, Starlink has become a luxury item because its hardware price increased by  112% in my country due to inflation. Only a few people will be able to afford it now.

Luxury is good but it's dependent on your income because if you don't have a good income and you are seeking for a luxurious lifestyle, it would really affect your income though there are still people that make a huge income or generates huge income but doesn't like living a luxury life so it also depends on individual wants because what entices you may not entice the next person.
Some persons doesn't just like living a luxury life because they feel it consumes lots of money and very expensive to maintain so instead of getting involved in what you can't continue to maintain, it's better not to opt in at all.

Saying luxury could make one more productive I don't actually understand your perspective but to me I feel luxury sucks alot and there is no productivity in it because you always gonna spend more oftenly despite if you also earn huge.

The point is that I know, to be productive you don't have to use expensive tools, because there are still many alternatives that can be used with the same features but are cheap according to our abilities. This is what I have been applying all this time, it doesn't need to be expensive, the important thing is that the use is the same, buy something within your financial capabilities, if you can't afford it then don't force it.

In physics, force is directly proportional to pressure. People who have a lot of lifestyle automatically experience depression. Humans generally do not understand what desires are and what needs are. Use your money wisely, buy things according to your needs, don't just keep your prestige / so that other people think you can afford it even though in fact you don't, life is always full of falsehoods.

Luxury and wanting to get high quality things for yourself, it could be clothes, electronics, cars etc all depends on your income. you cannot be desiring high quality things without you having the money. Everybody would want to live a luxurious life if they can afford it, but that is not how nature works, however "all things bright and beautiful, all creatures Great and small the Lord God made them all". all fingers are not equal so you do things according to how much you can afford them, luxury is necessary but everybody cannot afford it, that is nature for you.

I am a very considerate person when I want to buy an item, I will estimate the profit and loss in buying the item, even when I buy a smartphone I will compare the brand and also the resale price over if one day I need money.
I will not buy an item just because of my passionate desire for that item, I will be patient and think more stably because when I only buy an item based on desire, there is a big possibility that in the future I will lose money, not be lucky.

well it is true that sometimes we also need to invest in our own comfort and convenience some people buy cheap versions of a product and then get disappointed that the product does not compare to those of other bands. when these cheap products break, it will just cost you more compared to if had just bought the expensive one that could last you longer.

For me I considered them as a investment as well, no offense, but I'm a Macbook user and so I bought sometime, years ago 2018 from my crypto earnings. And up to know I'm still using it to make trades and still making money from my crypto activities. So I took it as a investment when I bought it back then and still now making me money.


Damn that was expensive, but maybe if the service is really good then it will be a good one to used. It is also very expensive here but I'm still weighing for now if I will get it or not. And as other might have said, we need to be very careful of the things we buy. Luxury items for me is just for show-off to others that you can buy this luxury things, but can they give you value?

People can only assume that they know what you want, but you alone know what is best for you. I have experienced this and my feeling before after this was that I feel almost bad because they me feel like I got something for too much of an expensive price it gives me a feeling like I was cheated. I moved on from feeling like this to understanding that some of this people who act as though they would have gotten something cheaper, may actually not be able to get it cheaper, it is just bluff. Buy good things, so you will not have to buy them again.

There are people that are not influenced nor moved by wealth. They prefer a modest and average lifestyle to that of a wealthy and luxurious one.
But living a modest and average lifestyle doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy quality goods and services. Everyone likes and appreciates quality goods and a high level of service and would go for it whenever possible.

Your topic head should read; “when quality becomes a necessity” and not luxury. Luxury isn’t really a necessity in the life of an individual.

Currently, it cannot be denied that lifestyle has become a necessity, because other people will judge us based on what they see. Sometimes we have to look attractive in order to be respected by other people and so that our existence can be recognized by them, but this only applies to people who do not have sufficient knowledge and abilities. because for those who have high knowledge and extraordinary abilities in the fields they master, they do not need an outer appearance that seems luxurious and expensive, because they themselves are more expensive than what they wear.

So we just have to choose, do we want to be respected because of our appearance or because of the abilities and knowledge we have...? However, if our life only revolves around prestige, then it will never end... following prestige will only torture ourselves. Because we cannot continue to appear perfect in front of other people, it would be better if we live as we are, let other people know us from what we achieve, not from what we wear. And if you succeed in making it happen, become someone who is successful and rich, owns a number of companies everywhere, then even when you walk around in a T-shirt and flip-flops, you will still be recognized and respected by other people, because other people know who you are.

This is the sad truth on which people would really be tending to look at your posture or on how you do wear clothes and make those kind of judgment on what kind of status of life you do have in terms of financial.
If you are really that somewhat too simple or being that not neat then they would really be having those impressions that you are poor or beggar like condition which do really sucks with that kind of behavior.
It turns out that people that even not really have that good financial status would really be thriving or doing its very best for it to look good because treatment would really be that entirely different
when you do look poor. This is why it would really be that normal that they would really be having this kind of approach into things because of this judgmental world we do have now.
It is really just that it do need up that kind of control and moderation on this sense because not all would really be that good when it comes to moderation and control
when it comes to spending even if its not already that practical.

I agree with this a lot. What use are cheaper products if it would not last you long and you can’t even use it properly? I think that if I can’t afford to buy it now then I’ll save up to buy the more expensive one especially if I believe it would do me good in the future.

I think you should spend money on things you will be using a lot. Clothes, shoes, cars are things I consider as luxuries and do not really need to be expensive. Of course there are exceptions like for example I need a blazer, I might invest on buying some really good one.

Here people's interest takes priority. I have seen that even a normal family people use good and high quality products. Although they have little money there, they try to use good things. I can never consider it as a luxury because they can buy good products or services for their needs, it is very normal. But if one cannot ensure its proper use after purchasing more than necessary goods then it can be a luxury. I have seen some people in my local area who give priority to quality and there are many who have wealth but can't choose good things.

Of course everyone will use a product that suits their needs and also suits the income we have, because if we don't have enough income to use a product that suits our income of course we have chosen a luxurious product with a high price but we don't need these goods and if someone can buy good quality goods of course they can afford to buy them and also they need these goods, some people prioritize the quality of goods of course they don't want to spend their money on the type of goods they have to buy several times of course they just want to buy it once and they can use it until they are satisfied.

That a product is luxurious doesn’t necessarily mean that it is a high quality product. In my line of work as a fashion designer, I can tell you for a fact that the luxury fashion brands you know and spend a lot of money on are produced by the same factories as the not so popular ones. People put value in brand names rather than quality itself. I could also say the same about iPhones and android phones, apple has positioned themselves as a luxury product that so many people today choose an iPhone over android without considering the pros and cons of both devices.

indeed things aren't as simple as buying cheapest one and get over with it sometime quality matters too, we can be trying to save some money buying the cheapest clothes there is, but if the clothes rips just within a few weeks of use whats the point we gonna be buying clothes again eventually and that is an even worse way of wasting our money.
at least buy the bare minimum of quality clothes that guaranteed to last long then its okay.,

being cheap doesn't always mean we are saving money we can be getting into more trouble by just simply being cheap.
thats the thing, being smart managing financial also involve knowledge of knowing how to buy the best goods there is, its not always about the price but always about something attributed to that goods itself.

knowing that, we can easily save ourselves from being tricked by some sellers that give shittiest cloth at cheap price just because they want to get rid of it.
there's always reasons why certain good is priced higher compared with other at the same category maybe its because the quality, brand, funcitonality, or even reliability.

I agree, here in our country there's a lot of high end luxury items that are made of low to mid quality products. They buy products from a large manufacturing company that has mid quality products, they will buy it at a cheap price because they will buy it in bulk and then they will process it and put a brand tag on it and sell it in the market at a very high price. In fact, it is said that the brand name is what makes it so expensive, but if you look at the quality, it is almost the same as those sold on the sidewalk or normal shopping stores.

OP has mentioned the term luxury with the MacBook and given a briefing on its usage. I would like to consider using a smartphone to give the briefing. Just a $100 smartphone does almost as much as a $1000 smartphone. Here we'll see the difference in how it performs and the smooth execution. Another thing is that the life of the product is greatly dependent on how well we use it. So, it is all about the person's mind and not about the product. It is true that for some needs we cannot compromise and specific products are necessary, and without that, going for expensive products is kind of wasting money to show off your own.

I agree, why offer people a life that would be terrible just so they could have some money, when we do not tell that to rich people? I have never seen people say big corps like apple or tesla or whatever end up paying a lot more based on their revenue and not their profit (they can hide their profit) but I have seen a lot of people suggest we should stop buying coffee from outside.

Why am I making my coffee at home to profit, when those rich companies are making tens of billions of dollars? They can pay for all our coffee, and we would pay less tax, and that way we can afford it. Stop looking at the few luxury stuff in regular people's life, and start looking at people who does space travel just for fun and no improvement at all.

If it is in your mind just like you have explained it, it is not luxurious lifestyle.  If you purchased Mac laptop at a very expensive amount and you have a very important need for that laptop and it is going to be of very important help in your job or academic work, then you can not conclude it is luxurious lifestyle. Luxurious lifestyle encompasses the lavish spending lifestyle of an individual, they always spend money on things that are necessary and the things that are not necessary too.

I purchased an expensive Camera and lenses (€2500 total) to start an Youtube fitness chanel. Could I just use an iPhone to start it? Sure, but I love high quality content and always try to deliver my best. There is also a huge competition in my niche and I wanted to start already from high quality instead of upgrading from time to time. I did it and it paid back well, so my luxury camera and lenses were just a necessary tools for me that helped me in my journey.

Macbook is a luxury thing when someone buys it to watch movies and TV series on Netflix and uses it for basic Facebook/Youtube web surfing. I really know many people who bought Macbook just to be cool while $200 HP computer was absolutely more than enough for all of their needs.
If someone buys Macbook for video production, graphics design, audio production and so on, then Macbook is definitely a high quality, necessary tool and not a luxury.

I wouldn't say agree that luxury is a necessity.He actually purchased that item because of the usage,because of how good that item seems or is and productivity of the item as he earlier mentioned.The term luxury shouldn't be the A1 here,because luxury as we all know is something that is flashy,something bought with a whole lot of money,something that you don't really even need for survival.It is connected with fame,ownership and lifestyle influence.

Especially,trying to meet up with societal standards.Luxury is based on the price tag;who can afford it they're not intentional about the quality and value.Luxury brands don't give clients what they really desire;they don't care about having the right features.You bought something expensive,doesn't mean you bought or they just offered you the best quality to that product.With reference to his content,I see him talking about hardwork,secondly,purchasing luxury doesn't mean your hardworking and that shouldn't be an advice.

So you think that a Mac laptop is luxurious? Are you kidding me?
A truly luxurious laptop is an Alienware gaming laptop. Some of these gaming laptops cost several thousand dollars a piece.
I think that a decent second hand laptop could do the same amount of work as a super expensive high quality laptop, but that's just me.
Some people get motivated by buying some high quality expensive stuff, so this makes them want to earn more money in order to buy more "luxurious stuff". Maybe that's the motivation you are writing about. I just don't have such motivation. I view this mindset as the culmination of the consumerist imperative(the desire to possess more and more goods and resources). You can call it "greed" if you want.

Yes, I have. The feelings afterward are usually of regret, cause, of course, I should have gone for the cheaper version and I went for the more expensive one, why? Most times the quality difference isn't even much. But that mindset isn't really good, just like you said. So, I started believing in the mindset of spending on yourself, you deserve it and all.. but that mindset doesn't frequently make you penniless. How about we sacrifice now, simplify our expenses, and save so much so we can get all the good things at once, how bout we have this mindset?

I have used cheap computers running the Windows operating system and my feeling is that after a period of use they degrade very quickly and cause some unpleasant situations for me. Similarly, if you use a cheap phone, everything is very smooth at first, but after a period of use you will see it start to lag and the device shows clear signs of degradation. But if you switch to using more advanced devices like Macbooks or iPhones, those situations rarely happen.

I have a 2017 macbook, even though I've been using it for a long time, but from the image and sound quality, all operations are still smooth, even a little better than cheap laptops running windows today. So I don't agree with you that their lifespan depends entirely on how we use them, and there is no difference between expensive products and cheap products.

A phone priced at $100 is made of plastic material, scratches easily, breaks easily...while a phone costing $1k is made of titanium material, has 100x zoom capability, and has a longer life battery, good impact resistance...how can you say they are the same?

The word luxury seems relative to me. For example, if a person's monthly income is not very high and if he thinks of doing something outside his budget, let's say if he buys a good smartphone beyond his budget, even if he doesn't buy it, his work will be fine. Maybe it's a luxury for him. On the other hand, another person who has a good enough monthly income and has money left over after living his daily life can buy a good smartphone, maybe from Apple, but still it is not a luxury for him. It is a matter of course for him.  And buying something nice when you need it is not a luxury in my opinion, I see it as a good investment because you are going to get a lot of nice things in the future.

There's this phrase "the more you want to save from buying cheaper things than what you really desire, the more it will cost you". It is a bit like with settling for less; buying a secondhand laptop and car, buying immitation or copied brands for clothes and the likes. Well, if you don't have the financial capacity to do so, then nothing's wrong with it. But if you do then you're still not wrong however quite missing a thing. There's nothing wrong with perhaps buying second hand or used items, just to use it as an example, but most of the time there are flaws which would make you pay more than you're supposed to, than with buying a brand new one. It is not being luxurious but more of being more efficient with your money. If you cannot afford buying a brand new one, then isn't it enough to say that you should save more to afford it? For me, we just often rush things. I don't intend to upset or offend other by saying these things. I just want to say that if you really want something then at least plan for it. Again, it is not being luxurious but more of needing a bigger drive within, to achieve things ( yes applicable to almost everything not only with lifestyle or objects).

I mean for sure you could easily just buy a cheaper laptop as and you could probably save a lot, for me it's gonna be the better thing to do as long as you buy the capable laptop and even though it was kinda cheap it was still a reputable brand where it's not going to be broken that easily. Its basically just the best way to do it if you really want to say money, but for sure there are still some luxuries that is going to be included in our life, like even if you are going to buy something like a gaming laptop or possible a mac laptop which is going to be much expensive than just the lower variant one it doesnt really mean that it's going to be a huge deal when it comes to needs or wants.

If you're going to buy a laptop just because you just want to, for sure that is going to fall into the category of just your wants, and possibly could just be a waste of money in the end, since you just doesnt want it any more you're not going to use it anymore. But if you're going to buy a laptop because you really going to need it for your work like if you are in an office, or something like doing video editing, 3d modeling, etc. that is for sure going to be a need. In my opinion, it doesn't to matter if the expensive or cheap laptop you're going to get since it is used for your work, it is used to generate income so it is going to be considered as an investment. And you could also use that to increase your generated income as well, for sure if you have some kind of expensive gear you're going to demand more higher pay.

Financial status and environment affect our ways of thinking. If you leave in New York and stay upto 2 years there, what you consider as luxurious life is what they called basic because the standard of living differences. An average house rent in New York can go for a $800 for a month but that's enough to cover you up in another place for half a year. If you stay in those kind of environment, you start to differentiate between the fake products and original products, you don't want to have anything to do with the fake ones but in other places, they don't mind and that's how standard of living differentiate us due to financial status.

Haven't you see where sneaker of Nike is sold for less than a $100 but if you ask for the original, you will see the price above $300? It's all about affordability and as long as the environment is concerned, we all can't purchase everything. If you think someone purchase and item and it's expensive, that's because they have the means and the money and when they go for cheaper, that's what they can afford but in the long run, one last more than the other.

When you were thinking like that, that was because you did not have money to buy those things. When you have the money, you start seeing that those luxury things are also things you can do for yourself, and by now you are seeing them as things that are normal things you should buy, so just understand that those people you see saying they cannot use luxury things are because they cannot afford to buy the things. It is not that they don't need them, but there is no option other than to leave them and buy what they can afford. 


Yes. Environment can change someone, but still, just understand that these things can be done without money, so it is better to use what you have at the moment because you cannot force yourself to buy something because your friends or people who are close to you bought that thing. However, the laptop is for your job, which is not bad, but just know that all these things cannot be done without the funds, although I can't argue with you that high-quality things are good things, and if we have money, we will buy them.

Luxury is a desire, not a need... Yet, it cannot be denied that nowadays luxury has become a necessity that we feel obliged to have. Especially as public figures, in order to be respected by other people, sometimes we have to appear a little eccentric and a little luxurious... because nowadays most people judge by their outer appearance alone. But this applies to certain people...if we ourselves as ordinary people just adapt to the situation, the important thing is that the appearance is decent and not embarrassing. Don't let it happen that just because we want to look extraordinary and appear luxurious in front of other people, we sacrifice all of our savings to buy luxury goods, just to fulfill our desires and prestige.

And it would be better if we focused more on improving ourselves and the skills we have, so that we can continue to generate profits to achieve true financial freedom. Because it's useless to look luxurious, but when you go home you look like a destitute person.

What might be luxury to you might only be a necessity to others. And as you say, you became more productive with that Macbook, therefore making it pay for itself in the long run if you are doing quality work that rewards you with good money. I'd say it is one of your expenses although at a somewhat higher price point. It only becomes luxury if it's something that you seldom use and only for vanity purposes. That Macbook serves you well, so it's not a luxury anymore to you.

I've never bought anything pretty expensive other than printers and computers that I need for my business. I never considered the latest printer a luxury but rather a business expense that helped me make more money in the long run.

Luxury is definitely a necessity, especially nowadays when most of us here (and I don't mean to offend anyone or whatever) have devolved to being mindless consumers of capitalism, like myself! We've been hardwired by society to enjoy and be satisfied with consuming expensive shit, and while it's also nice and dandy to live on top of a mountain and be a monk all your life surrendering all earthly tethers and possessions, the average joe would choose a material world instead.

I always say, money and time wasted on having fun and enjoying your time here in the planet is no wasted time at all. If that makes you have fun and appreciate living in this polluted planet a little bit, then by all means hoard all the macbooks you can get and enjoy every single expensive cuisine you can buy. No one has any rights to tell you what to do with your money. You slaved for it, you worked hard for it, it's only fair that you reward yourself with something fulfilling afterwards.

It's good and all to be contended, but us humans strive in innovation and stepping up. If stepping up requires you having the latest gadgets and buying the most expensive shit out there, by all means.

Mature people need to being mindful of financial resources and not succumbing to peer pressure or societal expectations when it comes to spending money. Responsible financial management and making thoughtful decisions about spending habits are important things for financial stability in the future. Those emphasize the importance of prioritizing needs, avoiding unnecessary expenses driven by external influences, and being content with what you already has.

Environment can influence someone's spending habits and desires, especially when surrounded by friends or acquaintances who may have certain possessions or lifestyles. That's why it's important to use what you have at the moment rather than feeling pressured to spend money on things simply because others have them. This implies the value of prioritizing needs over wants and being content with what one already possesses. Certain purchases may seem desirable, but not everything can be obtained without sufficient funds. This pragmatic approach encourages individuals to make informed decisions based on their financial capabilities. A balanced perspective recognizes the value of quality while also being mindful of financial constraints.

Let's start by defining what luxury is ?
If we talk about MacBook, it is not luxury, it is a clever marketing and nothing more :) Because this platform does not have any distinct advantages or unique characteristics that could objectively "elevate" it above other similar devices. Who can refute ? :)
Luxury is really unique, not available to mass consumers, goods or services that have really unique properties against the background of other products. And such items have their own circle of consumers. Believe me - a ragamuffin with the latest iPhone looks not luxurious but ridiculous and stupid. And with a high probability, if the iPhone is real and not a Chinese fake, it is either bought on credit, which will drive the owner into debt for many months, or stolen :). So for an ordinary person to talk about luxury is probably silly, because such a person is not a member of the community where it is accepted and where they can afford it.

I think that luxury is very good and if anyone can afford it then let them go for it, afterall they say that life is short and we should make the most of it while we can, but I also think that it'll be foolishness if someone is going for luxury items that they can not afford. If an average income earner wants to go for a luxury upgrade of their gadget because it'll add value to their work and make it more effective, then it'll make economic sense, but if they go for an upgrade that they can't afford because it's a trend, then again I'll still call it foolishness. In conclusion I think that people should live bellow their income, so that they can be able to have money to invest and save for the future, let them go for the luxury that they can afford.

Yes, it is also what the free market means as well IMO. Yes, it may not be "fair" but the market is not called fair market, it is called free market and you are just as allowed to make what they make as well. Nobody prevents you from doing what they do, and that means it's free for all. That freedom has a cost, which means that the ones who do not want to aim at just purely making money, will end up not being as rich, and eventually realize that they are not going to do well.

Doesn't matter if you are right wing or left wing, the poor stays poor, that never changes. This is why it is going to be quite terrible for anyone to just not focus on money, they will end up with having financial issues on the long run anyway.

Luxury is never a need, but always a want that any person can always live and survive even without hitting luxury in life. However, living with some luxuries is never bad as long as you’re able to provide it for yourself, but if you are trying hard just to provide luxury, well that’s another story, you might end up getting drown into debt in order to satisfy other people.

My point is just live your life simply and accordingly. Productivity does not care whether you are using cheap or luxurious item, because if you really want to be productive, you have to dig it deep inside you, you have to be knowledgeable and skillful as one should be, and you shouldn’t be procrastinating things, that way the rate of productivity will be high. Having an expensive and luxurious machine or gadget is just a bonus.

It is not that I am against luxury life but what is matters very important is that you should life a life bakes on your income don't because of someone is living a luxury life you decide to emulate and follow his step of life so it is not good unless that you have way calculate your income weekly and the monthly before you can live an expensive life,

It is obvious that expensive life is good and is also meant for people who knows their income weekly and the monthly because it is something that deals with expensive life so therefore I believe that luxury is based on your income it is not something that what emulate because it is a life of individual difference

What you described in OP and the illustration you gave using your Mac laptop doesn't clearly paint he picture of a luxury life. People who lives luxury life doesn't care so much about the quality of the product rather the price. They will come with statements like "What's the latest if Mercedes car", "what is the most expensive car in your company" and they will just buy it just for the prestige. Same goes with their clothings and lots more. They will apply same to barbing saloon. They will chose the most expensive haircut even if it doesn't fit them. Your example of buying Mac is not luxury but buying something necessary to enhance your productivity.

Yes - I can quite understand what you mean, not everything that is expensive is considered a luxury by those who need these products to support their work and business. The quality of the product they buy is needed regardless of its value - but that doesn't mean they need to buy it when they can't afford it.

The point is that luxury is for those who consider it a lifestyle - while for those who need it, it is a necessity that must be had so that their business and work runs smoothly. I like the second point - this is a necessity, not a lifestyle.

  It not anyone’s fault you couldn’t operate the laptop you bought with your own money, before going for anything at least you should have an idea of what you’re going for before you even thought of buying, most time people just do things out of peer pressure, if  you feel comfortable working with the windows why not stick to it or if you have to change it to something better than the one you were using, so it is better to get the  higher version of the windows since you have the money to invest in yourself. You didn’t draw out your scale of preference so to make proper decisions when it comes to being resourceful. You could’ve done better knowing very well you could do without the Mac book. Unless you want  to learn so as to make it comfortable for your
 Scale of preference refers to a list of unsatisfied wants arranged in order of their relative importance. In other words, it is a list showing the order in which we want to satisfy our wants arrange in order of priority. Scale of preference is really important for it makes it easier for choice to be made. It cut down the cost of expenditure and it helps stay within thier financial limitation. You won’t have to go about making unnecessary purchase just to satisfy you cravings. There is a reason this is being taught in school so as to make the younger generation more conservative.

It's not only about looks these days I believe, but it's about your financial situation that matters to most people in society. People who are doing very well financially are highly respectable individuals in any society nowadays, and if someone isn't financially stable, they are barely respected even by their friends and family. It's the harsh reality of the world that we live in, it's unfortunate, I know, but we can't change it which is why we are always struggling to become the person that society praises and doesn't ignore or disrespect.

There is nothing wrong in not being very rich, the world is full of people having normal financial conditions, there aren't millions of millionaires and billionaires in the world, however, society doesn't need to know that you don't eat food twice a day because you can't afford it or you will lose all the respect, unfortunately.

I think this depends on what you need, if you really need an item such as a laptop that has high specifications such as quality then I think there is nothing wrong for you to buy it even though the price is more expensive than some other laptops. What should be the main focus here is "needs", you need quality and that means there will be no point if you buy an item that cannot meet your needs because it will not be used.

So in my opinion it is not a luxury because it is clearly an item that you need, on the other hand we must understand that the name of luxury is more likely to be things that you want but do not have any benefit for your life, such as buying something for a lifestyle that is actually only to increase the point of view of others to you and there is no real benefit that you feel from something you buy. So clearly the bottom line is that a need is not a want, there is a significant difference between them, and it doesn't matter if it's expensive but if you really need it then it doesn't matter if you buy it because there is a real benefit from what you have bought.

The main basis for work productivity is not how luxurious the items you use are, but the point is the comfort when you use them. A person's choice of goods certainly varies, maybe you feel more productive while using a Mac laptop, but for others it may be possible to achieve everything with a cheaper laptop. I hope you don't buy a Mac laptop because of prestige, as long as you can improve the quality of the type of work you do, it will be better for you because it is a luxury item that is part of your work requirements.

When we have to complete work with luxury items, of course we have to spend more capital to be able to get these items and if someone can complete their work not with luxury items, but they can do it with items that can actually complete their work, of course not. having to spend more money to buy the item is different, if we really need the item to help complete the work we are doing of course we have to buy it whatever the price of the item, you are right of course we don't have to buy an item because of prestige because this is only detrimental savings that we have even though we don't need these items.

The important point in what you said is that we should use our money efficiently. Our expenses can be new or second-hand, and this depends on whether our needs are met or not. If your needs are not met when you buy a second-hand product, we can purchase a brand new product. Therefore, it is important to determine your needs. We should also consider the possibility of spending extra money on a second-hand product. When we buy a second-hand product, the expenses incurred may cause more costs than buying a brand new product. We cannot know whether the product will cost money, but it is still important to know the product and take a certain amount of risk.

Once the needs are determined, we can use our money more efficiently. I agree with what you say, being planned will benefit us in many ways.

Exactly! that's why the rest of us purchase expensive items because the quality of something is more important to us and it will help make our work easier and better, especially if it's related to our work or source of income. People are becoming more selective in choosing things to buy, especially if they notice that they spend more when they buy cheap things.

Some people don't understand well what luxury is, and many can't differentiate between expensive and luxury, they think they are the same even though in reality they are not. I like your presentation, the uniqueness or characteristics of a good/service is the main indicator of luxury, if many people can have it then it is no longer called luxury. Some goods are said to be luxury because they have special value, such as how they are made, are limited in quantity, and are only available if we order them. Personally, I don't consider iPhone products to be luxury goods, because they are items that are used daily by almost all groups. But it all comes back to each individual point of view, luxury is highly stratified, in terms of how much money one is prepared to spend when one wants to have the luxury of goods/or services.

...At the same time, we should not forget that even the concept of "expensive" is very different for people. For someone expensive is 100 dollars, and for someone else it is acceptable to pay 1,000 dollars for the same product or service.  Everything in our world is relative, including value. And yes - luxury is not primarily about money, it is about inaccessibility for the masses, and high price is a derivative of inaccessibility to many or limited quantity.

Buying an expensive thing does not mean leaving a luxurious lifestyle or doesn't mean it's not your own kind of thing because you didn't purchase it. Normally life is meant to be comfortable. just that human being always see what other people do as a wrong thing because they can't afford it or there financial status does permit them. But there are types of job you would love to do that involves you using an expensive or luxurious things to achieve it. Like when you are looking for a contract, you need to look nice with a good outfit and a clean car that will put you in Oder of what you are seaking for. Though it might not necessarily mean that you must buy with your money but you can hire it and after the contract you may return and buy your own. Life is all about packaging.

For today's society, especially most housewives, they tend to always want to look luxurious in front of many people. And there are also those who have a great sense of prestige so that it becomes a problem for them. It's true that you said most people today judge only by appearance. Sometimes luxury is a requirement for life for people who have great prestige, always want to get more views and praise from others around them, so it is not strange that many have debt because they want to be luxurious. It is unfortunate that prestige cannot be eliminated, I myself feel that looking sober is enough. As long as we are comfortable with the style we use.

The main goal of everyone must be financial freedom, but there are people who only talk a lot but there is no movement, like my friend. Where when we gather and the discussion has ended, he starts the conversation with a predictable beginning because it has often been said, which is annoying that it is often said but there is no change or movement at all. And her habit when she goes out is most likely to wear clothes or shoes and other accessories borrowed from her friends. That's very embarrassing. It's true what you said, it's useless to look fancy but it's borrowed and the original is poor.

Sometimes we need some expensive things not to show off but for our necessity. We all have to do work our survive. For doing our work smoothly or more effectively sometimes we need different types of devices. Not all devices are expensive but some devices are too much expensive. For Work purposes, we have to purchase that device not to show off. Yes, there are also some people who purchase those things to show off that's the different thing.

For example- you are a photographer, So you need a good quality, latest technology-based camera for your work which is expensive. In that case camera is a necessary thing for him not to show off.

There are really just those people who are really that too boastful or something that their ego is telling that you do really have that kind of expensive or popular gadget or whatever things you do have that not something that could easily be acquired by everyone. Its true that having those expensive tags or value is something that more better in terms of quality on which this is really just that normal considering that if its more expensive
then quality would really be that better but there are really things on which you could really be able to get cheap but still get on the same functionality on which you could really say that there are still people who
are really that too practical despite of that financially capable but still they do chose to buy up things which is more cheaper.

Actually this would really be just that depending on a certain individual because if he/she do sees something that caught up his/her attention and have the money for sure you would be buying it.
Some do matter with the quality and some are really just that going in line with the hype and current trend.

You’ve defined luxury just the way it makes sense. Luxury doesn’t mean it’s hot to serve a purpose, the most one could get out of a luxury item is the status. If you’re putting it to so much use because of its efficiency, that ain’t luxury, that’s just you having to purchase a certain item because of its best fit.
Just for about everything, there are alternatives and with the proper research, you could always find a befitting alternative to aid you in achieving that exact purpose but, for one seeking luxury, you just don’t care. You just go for what enhances your status and puts you in the spotlight always. It’s never about the use although luxurious items can serve a number of purposes like, having to transfer value in ways that might be reconverted later in the future but, wen it’s purpose is more about status, then we can call it luxury.

Here in the Spanish speaking part of the planet, we have a saying about buying cheap things, instead sacrificing some extra money to be more quality, the saying is: "Lo barato sale caro" , which could be roughly translated to "The cheap is expensive".
It makes reference to the fact those products which one could end up buying usually have such low quality, to the extent they could give more problems than solutions or even originate more problems, specially when we talk about things which have to do with one's health or direct quality of life.
Would anyone buy very cheap tires for their vehicle instead sacrificing some extra bucks for the real thing, knowing it could mean being left stranded in the middle of the way because of such choice?

Also, I agree there is a clear distinction between luxury and extra quality one is paying for.

I had that mindset because my father always said that we don't need luxury things. For example, his argument was, why you need an expensive car when a cheap car can help you to move, why you need a Rolex watch when a cheap 5$ watch can show you the same time, why you need expensive clothes when cheap clothes can cover your body, why you need an expensive smartphone when a basic phone can help you to call.
I discovered that it's a wrong mindset. First of all, luxury things are good, we dont' have to make excuses when we can't buy luxury items, instead we have to focus on improving our life to be able to move from basic to luxury items. I love luxuries, there is nothing bad about them. Luxury is always better than cheap items.

I agree with you, I sold my smartphone and old computer to buy a MacBook because I am in UI/UX design and I also needed to know the software Sketch which is exclusively only for MacBook. It was expensive and hard but over time I became a good UI/UX designer, and landed a job and that job paid back well. While my father didn't want me to do this, I don't regret any second for making this step.

Buying what you need for an important purpose is not a bad thing for me even though it is expensive it doesn't matter much as far as you can afford it, am only against luxury for show up, if there is anything you can afford within your comfortable zone without regrets go on to do it but before you purchase any expensive item, check yourself if it is really worth it unless you know that the item in question will bring more finances to you or may be it can be used to solve a pressing problem, if not I don't think buying an item that wouldn't worth the purchasing price in the next few weeks if you want to sell it back is really a good idea.
Though individuals has their personal way of life, no matter your advice, they will still exhibit their usual character unless they experience the unimaginable.

A person's lifestyle is determined more by wealth, this is a character and a demand for some groups. It cannot be denied that people who have more wealth will definitely buy luxury goods. We can see examples around us, how the type of car they use is very visible from the level of the person himself. In my opinion, it should not be a compulsion if finances are only limited to meeting standard living. So everyone has considered it before deciding, except for some people who don't care about themselves and make their lives chaotic if they always force their will.

The realm of work equipment transcends the simple label of "expensive" or "luxury." It's a battlefield where investment collides with practicality.  On one hand, expensive goods can act as potent weapons, boosting productivity and propelling us ahead of the competition. A high-performance computer becomes an extension of our will, churning out complex tasks with lightning speed. Top-of-the-line tools transform us into virtuosos of our craft, enabling us to achieve feats previously unimaginable.

However, frugality beckons like a siren song. The allure of cheaper alternatives, promising the same results at a fraction of the cost, is undeniable. But true value lies in a nuanced dance between price and performance. A bargain-basement tool might save money upfront, but its limitations could cripple productivity and hinder our ability to compete.

The key lies in a discerning eye. We must become shrewd warriors, assessing not just the price tag, but the long-term impact on our work output. Does the expensive software streamline workflows, freeing up precious time for innovation?  Will the ergonomic chair prevent fatigue, allowing us to work longer hours without sacrificing well-being? These are the questions that separate the frivolous from the essential.

It's a slightly different story, but one that also has an impact on people. Cheap and expensive things, that's from a different segment, it's not about luxury. You can buy cheap sneakers and they won't be comfortable, you will get tired.... You can buy very expensive sneakers - they will be great in every way, but not for everyone available. And you can find a balanced model - where the price will be slightly higher than the price of cheap sneakers, but the quality is slightly lower than very expensive sneakers. As a result - you spend not very much, but get a quality product. Or the same tires for cars - I, for example, will not risk to buy cheap - at least because the tires - is an element that is responsible for my safety. And it is more profitable for me to pay more, but then not to restore the car and myself in expensive hospitals.
If we talk about clothes - as for me, now in the world a huge number of quality and inexpensive manufacturers, and the ability to order things from anywhere in the world.

The problem that occurs in my opinion is because we are too exposed to prestige which makes the situation a little more complicated because of the inability to balance the expenses that occur with prestige that is too high.
So with the conditions that occur by seeing things like this, it makes them forget a little that it is actually precisely such prestige that makes them become chaotic because they cannot balance the life that occurs and cannot manage finances properly because in their minds by using expensive clothes or big branded clothes it is enough to increase their value which actually backfires on themselves because it is precisely with that that they become more miserable.

Things like this will keep repeating because it is the same mindset where prestige rules everything that makes them unable to balance their finances including difficulty in distinguishing which should be a necessity and which one is a wasteful expense.

Not every goods that have quality are expensive but you can say all expensive goods have a certain high quality. And that’s why people spend more money for goods and services with higher quality. Buying an expensive laptop cause of its capabilities Isn’t necessarily considered luxury.
I think people have been and are always being selective when choosing what and how to purchase quality goods/or services   I do not quite understand how one can spend more when purchasing cheap and lower quality product. Perhaps you mean after buying cheap and substandard products, it won’t be long before heading over to the store to get another one while a sound and quality product could last you for a longer period of time.

Luxury is by definition the unnecessary and this will depend by the person.   IF you totally need a reliable car and make it part of your living everyday in this reliance then an expensive but well made car can be justified.  IF you may just walk everywhere and do no worse then the car is a luxury, walking might even be the better choice for health but people drive for luxury instead.   Its true lots of people drive a car almost as a status symbol and it might be the biggest luxury they have but as they sit in it and are seen in it then its part of their identity to be seen to do well.

This definition definitely matters, especially when we talk about cars, industry and the finance packages that surround new cars.   This all could be in danger of collapse because if we check the nature of the product in a consumerist economy if luxury changes or is altered by a recession etc. alot of this business will be weak and constrict quite easily.  That people dont require that luxury transport not at that price not new especially, they can fix old cars for twenty or more years.   Add in that cars will need to become near to zero emissions at some point if agreements made by countries to reduce their national use of fossil fuels is serious; that big turning point could trip up the whole supply chain I guess.

Even bigger wider point of reference certainly I have to mention is Exters triangle which tries to define assets by security.    Car loans has to be one of the most risky types of debt there are due to the underlying asset itself being so uncertain, the chances of non performance and the unsecured debt short falls is quite substantial imo.    This would relate back to 2008 with sub prime though mostly Housing, cars were related in unreliable debt expansion and subsequent collapse.

Some rich are like that you said but for the poor, they act like they are rich. A modest and average life is not poor, so yeah, these groups can still avail a quality service because most quality service targets them and means the pricing is also average (not expensive). Quality service are so good, so yeah all love them but it's only sad that not all can afford them.

I am talking about the poor ones here but it's not a big deal to them because they are already used to the kind of living they had. I don't see anything wrong with his title, since both luxury and quality are not the same, and then both of them are not a necessity for the most of us.

As long as the product has a guarantee, it is worth buying because I have 2 of the same items to review the quality of these 2 items. For item 1 there is a guarantee from the company and I am not worried if it is damaged, it is a different story with item 2, in terms of cheap price, but there is no guarantee from the shop so we bear the service costs and the price is equivalent to half the item. So, from these two comparisons which are quite reasonable, in my opinion it is time for people to choose and sort out which one to use. But it all comes back to the needs of each individual. Because usually things like this are just a matter of taste.

Sometimes, it is important to do something luxurious. It can bring about motivation. I learnt this from Steve Harvey in a video where he said that you should try patronizing first class plane tickets instead of the standard one. He explained that when you experience all that luxury, you will have the motivation to grind even more because you would not want to walk past the first class ever again. It makes sense.

Great quote but I find if you personally are the only reason for motivation then its not much depth to your wanting something.   It doesn't have to be greed but it sounds like it could easily end up as just being self centered egotistical desire to lavish luxury on yourself, that might be enough for some but I don't expect greatness from a person only motivated by the range of what they see personally.    

Theres a thousand others who also want the best for themselves and will do anything, to actually get the luxury element and premium wages to pay for it I believe it requires great vision beyond yourself in some way and thats exceptional hence you not only want but will secure the means to gain luxuries above normal society.  Of course many in rich countries already have luxury and think its normal, there is that too.

Warren Buffet who I would not argue in any case goes without luxuries he has a private Jet so if anything he agrees with the above and more so, a great luxury to own the time of your own departure and circumstances etc.   However he gave a good example in not owning a car without cosmetic damage, if a car receives hail damage while sitting on the car sales lot it looks far worse covered in dents all over.  However a hail damaged car drives no worse and is far cheaper hence a good definition of luxury, something you have which has no effect practically and is just personal preference for yourself.   This isn't rare as people will pay and decide car purchase by car colors and other non utility reasons, that would be luxury though quite ordinary if its costing more to do so.

It all makes sense to me when you're financially stable and you're 100% capable of taking care of your family, their basic needs and wants and traveling on a tour round the world, a good definition of a successful being. Flying first class are mainly for the influential men in the world, these set of people are important and placed above others when it comes to attentions, because you're a celebrity. Luxurious lifestyle is very expensive and reaching this stage in life means you're already leaving the celebrity lifestyle. There's something we call level in this game. Luxurious is level by level which is quite understandable.

Well, according to Steve Harvey, you don’t have to be wealthy to fly the first class. In fact, flying first class is what makes you struggle more to become wealthy so you can constantly fly it. Also, first class isn’t about celebrities, it is about comfort. If you think of it as what celebrities do then you won’t see the need to chase it. If you’ve flown first class, you will remember the comfort and understand the point.

That is not "always" true, maybe more sturdy things so that they do not have to spend money all the time, but I realize comfort is a lot more above the luxurious spending in their case. I have a few friends (not really friends but crypto people) that I met along the way, and all they have in common that they do not go out and spend useless money. They do not go out and buy 5 prada bags.

They actually do end up buying a brand I have never heard of, not because they are cheap, because they are expensive too, but they look for things that can be used for years. They just want to sit at home, or do what they love, and not really spend money, if they have to, then do it once and don't want to do it again and again. Comfort is more important for all of them.

My friend, you've won the discussion by realizing that self-improvement is the greatest luxury. And why not? A "luxury" item that improves productivity, comfort, and life is a tool, not a luxury

Your Mac laptop story? It's a message that you value yourself and your work enough to buy the best tools. Making strategic choices that affect your life and job isn't materialism. Frugality is sometimes mistaken for wisdom, yet saving money can stifle your potential

Quality over price, luxury over mediocrity; I've always done that. You know what? Pays off. I value every dollar spent on anything that improves my life or career. Strategic, not reckless. Mindful investment vs. thoughtless spending

Ask those who can't see past the price tag to look closer. Understand that worth is in the influence on your life, not the money. Invest in yourself, your productivity, and your happiness. Because that's the investment with the biggest returns

That's right, for me if I see it, it's quite normal for me. However, I think this has its own purpose when they do it and sometimes there are also those who do it for the sake of image and to convince their business partners. So, for our position we will probably do the same thing, but of course the levels vary and still adapt to each individual's financial capabilities and at least we will be an idol for our family, especially our wife and children, even if only in a simple form. For example, we invite you to go on a trip to a comfortable place to vacation with your family.

Luxury is not a necessity. Prioritizing function over prestige, when you have money it feels like buying and using a sports car is fun and can amaze other people's eyes, but unfortunately the seats can only accommodate two people, and can only be used in urban areas. However, for me, who is married and has several children, it seems like an MPV type vehicle is more suitable for me to use, which has lots of seats, can be used both in the city and in the countryside. Apart from that, the price is also cheap and affordable.

For me, luxury will only complicate life and add to the burden. For example, when I buy a luxury sports car, I have to think about expensive maintenance costs and high taxes. Unless, we are capable enough for that.

It's not a luxury but more of a necessity, I understand that maybe for some people the item has a price tag that makes them unable to buy it and prefer to buy the same type of item but with a lower specification or quality, but I would say that what you are doing is not overspending because basically that's what you need and because if you don't buy the good quality item then you won't be able to fulfill what you need.

So I think it's a different thing, because there's nothing wrong with buying that item because it's the quality that you need. And I would say that you are spending money in vain if you buy something based on prestige where you always want things or and force something that is actually beyond your ability but there is no reciprocity or commensurate benefit from the item.

luxury is not a demand but it is a standard of living that is a choice. It is normal for people who have financial affluence to buy lots of cars of various brands even though their function is the same and they are willing to buy watches at fantastic prices even though their function is also the same. So in my opinion life is just a choice and still use common sense when spending on things. People always have problems with their finances so that it impacts other things because they always push beyond their capabilities, which is very ridiculous.

The important thing only here is that you are aware on what are the things that you would really be doing on which there's no sense that you would really be stepping up your way of living or standards if you do know that your source of income wont really be able to support on such upgrade. There are people who would really matter about good quality even though its a bit higher in price but they dont care since they are financially
capable then they would really be definitely considering on getting it out rather than on going into those cheaper options. We do know that once we do able to see that we are financially capable on buying things
then we do go for the best.

Although when things do comes into a point that you've been able to buy things which arent necessary then this is where shit things happen because priority and utility what matter the most.
Quality is also the main consideration but as much as possible we should really be that practical on doing up things.

There are some jobs that require you to test specific products like apps that are running on IOS and that's why they're requiring their employees to have the apple products. Why wouldn't they shoulder the products? because it's cost-effective for them and lesser expenses and that's why most remote employees are hired for this type of jobs. With that situation, the luxury of owning apple products is a necessity because of the type of job that they've been hired to do.

If you are not capable to buy some certain things, you don't need to force yourself which is not good in the other side of luxury but if you have enough to buy all those things and you still have enough in reserve which is the good side of the luxury.

I guess everyone want to live a good life when they have the money and, those that don't have the money are working seriously to ensure they get the money to acquire good assets that will make them to go and live any places they think that is convince for them to spend the rest of their life.

As long as what you spend is commensurate with what you will get then that is a good thing, but unfortunately many people buy luxury goods but the benefits they get are not commensurate with the money that has been spent to get the goods, for example buying the latest iPhone just for media socialize, even though you can buy an Android at a cheaper price, this actually doesn't matter as long as you can afford it, not because of debt.

Maybe it's not luxury goods, but when I buy clothes I prefer branded ones because of comfort, but sometimes people around me think I'm exaggerating, but I understand because I don't need to tell them why I prefer branded ones even though there are cheap ones for the same type.

I agree with that, indeed if we don't have enough money then don't force yourself. In my opinion, this happens to young people whose social relationships are still burning, where of course they compete to own property or other items that seem luxurious because they have high prices. such as gadgets or vehicles, many young people force themselves to have luxury items so that it makes things even more difficult for their parents. they cannot see the economic and financial situation of their family because all they think about is luxury due to their thirst for praise from their friends.

Of course, everyone wants financial freedom, therefore many people work hard to fulfill their needs and also to fulfill their desire to have something they want. if they really want luxury then they have to work hard, a saying I once heard was "if you want to buy things without looking at the price, then you have to work without looking at the time" and he said that was a mindset.

It goes back to the environment that encourages a person to obtain goods that are considered to increase their self-confidence in the environmental cycle.
Usually young people are in the wrong company like that, and for this it comes back to the upbringing of their parents to be able to teach them the right path.

Luxury goods are included in desires, they are not required to be fulfilled, but to make ourselves happy we have to try harder to get a lot of money to be able to fulfill these desires.
It should not be forced, but because of this we have more motivation, a big desire can sometimes also become positive energy.

That's true, indeed nowadays there are many young people who are competing to be stylish by owning luxury goods because perhaps that is a requirement to be able to hang out or gather with friends. because with that, perhaps what they think is that by owning or using luxury goods, other people will judge that they are people who really have a lot of money or have high taste. Unfortunately, in my neighborhood there is a young person like this, he doesn't work because he has just graduated from school, but he has high tastes such as branded clothes and also has a taste for using luxury goods such as vapes or gadgets with high prices, actually that's it. It doesn't matter because it's everyone's taste, but what's annoying is that he always forces a luxurious style but all his friends know that he is a lower middle class person, and I also heard news that he always demands his parents to buy what he wants while he doesn't look at the situation of his own family. and this is the problem, maybe it's because of pride that drives him like this.

What you say is correct, desires do not have to be fulfilled completely, if we are able to fulfill them, it doesn't matter, it's just that we have to be able to see in our minds whether our economic situation can adapt to our own tastes, self-introspection is important, don't let your tastes change. we have it instead it kills us ourselves.

One of young people's issues is the pressure to acquire luxury items, because it can have impact on their finance and relationships. Young people may feel compelled to keep up with peers and acquire expensive gadgets or vehicles, regardless of their financial situation. This happens in a society where social status and material possessions often hold considerable importance. This desire for validation from peers can lead to financial strain not only for themselves but also for their families, because they may overlook their economic realities in pursuit of luxury.

Young people need to understand the value of financial responsibility and prioritize their needs over fleeting desires for luxury. Financial freedom is indeed a worthy goal, but it's achieved through hard work, discipline, and smart decision-making. Young people need to adopt a mindset centered around hard work, financial discipline, and responsible spending, because those can empower them to build a solid foundation for their future financial well-being.

It’s more of a matter of finances than of taste. I think it majorly comes down to the financial status of the individual when it comes to purchasing quality goods and getting a high level of service.
Everyone would possibly want the goods with the highest quality and the best of services available but are restrained due to financial constraints.
People are then forced to choose and to go with the substandard goods cause that’s what they can comfortably afford. We would all want to live the good life but sadly and realistically, not everyone can afford it.

Nobody would say that they wouldn't like to have a luxurious and expensive thing for themselves if they can afford it. someone who goes for a lesser thing because that's what they can afford and that doesn't mean they are not using a lesser product of the same luxurious and expensive thing.

I don't think, there are any products that have been made, that don't have a lesser version of it, that people who are not wealthy can afford. Regarding the Mac laptop you mentioned, there are less-priced computers that can do similar things it does. Same thing as TV sets, phones, cars, etc. They all have expensive and less-expensive innovations and people are using them to their satisfaction without a problem because they deliver almost the same thing, the expensive and luxurious thing does.

High quality goods are for personal needs, luxury goods are for public consumption (visually). I can't find a more logical reason than this.
Both can make someone more productive depending on the value of what you sell. Say you're an editor, you would certainly prefer high spec PC components in general compared to standard specs but covered in gold. It's different if you are an advertising star, your outfit is a consideration for the prospective clients.

That's the point, the scale of luxury products and necessities has slight differences depending on needs and situations, so he needs a quality laptop product that supports his work, so it's natural for him to buy an Apple laptop because of the high quality and specifications that are often used by designers, programmers, content creators and others to support various fields of work, and you need to know that buying a laptop depends on budget because several other types of laptops have high specifications at cheaper prices, all decisions depend on each individual and if you are a content creator then make sure you get a monthly income from your work online to recover the purchase price of a laptop, sometimes some people insist on buying luxury items just to collect and show off but at least the items we buy can generate monthly income.

indeed sometime having luxurious goods are necessary, for example as a businessman you might try to show up to be looking like having various luxurious stuff to increase your credibility, a man that rides lamborghini looks a lot more reliable than a man who rides some random honda if we are talking about multi million business and that make sense.
as long as it beneftis us i think there's nothing wrong with having luxurious stuff, even better if it could instead help us make our prospective client trust us more.
consider some people that judge a book by the cover exist and there are many of such people, having luxurious stuff most certainly helps a lot deaing with these kind of people.
lest the advantage that we are getting from having luxurious fun talking about the fun side of owning one.

Having luxury only shows you out to the public, bringing you closer to the rates of people that are not really there for you but for the things you have, most especially those that will like to see your downfall, and also bringing you closer to the fake people that will be around you and might get into danger due to the luxurious things that are around you. 

Is it not that I don’t support luxury? No, but must people found engaged in that luxury life are mostly doing it for the social media, many of which are fake, or they are just children of a wealthy person because the hand that works harder to gather the wealth will not always spend it on luxury but only help others to rise up, so I see no point in luxury that will bring more credibility to you because luxury only brings class to you that will last for some months or years. That is all because in the luxury space, things are changing daily, and more innovation in luxury is coming out frequently. 

Certainly right. Luxury comes with timing as well. If you think you are financially stable to afford such luxuries like having a first class plane ticket, then you’re good for it. But that won’t mean a necessity for those who are unable to afford in it. As long as they still reach their destination safe and sound, that’s very fine for me. Learn to adjust if you think you’re not able, so you won’t end up fitting yourself in such uncomfortable situation.

Luxurious lifestyle are only for those living with a gold spoon. Well, that could be a necessity for them but for most of us here who are living an average life, luxury is only a waste of money. Focus more on daily survival, and getting an investment that will let you experience luxuries in the future without getting inconvenienced with your funds.

Actually it doesn't matter if they have enough money or have enough income, it's just that sometimes there are young people who don't know themselves, they don't have a job and their family's economic and financial situation is not very good, but that child has such a high taste in style that he always wanted a luxurious style even though his finances were not so good. Maybe it's because we're jealous of seeing our peers who can afford to own branded and luxurious items, but if we can't afford it, it's better to be self-aware instead of forcing it and ending it, putting pressure on our own family or parents. Work hard if you really have high taste. Match what you want with what you produce.

Yes, that's right, we have to think about our definite needs rather than thinking about or prioritizing desires that are only temporary. Everyone certainly wants financial freedom, without exception, even if you have sufficient finances, your lifestyle will definitely change for the better or more luxurious. It's true what you said, to be able to achieve financial freedom we have to be willing to work hard, be disciplined in our finances.

Just sharing, if I want to buy something/goods in principle, there are 3 things I have to ask, namely:

1. Is this item useful for us?
2. Do we need it or not?
3. Should I buy it now?

If all of that is fulfilled then I will buy it, because buying expensive items if used for work purposes will not be a problem but if I buy items just for prestige then it will be a problem. In essence, don't spend money on consumptive consumption whose goal is happiness, even if you can financially afford it. because excessive self-indulgence will lead to dissatisfaction/unhappiness.

The "fake it 'til you make it" mentality with designer clothes and showy cars is ridiculous. We believe it makes us better, happier, etc. Ultimately, it's ego. Do you want happiness or an Instagram-friendly photo?

We talk about hustle culture and grinding, but not how hard it is. Everyone desires wealth, but nobody discusses the years of work required to get there. Developing money discipline isn't a gift. Daily practice. Like weightlifting, nobody grows big overnight

If you preach "dreams come true" you better prepare people for the climb. It's about honoring time, sweat, and lost nights out as well as money. We must discuss that transformation

I do agree with those questions above or this is something that you should asking yourself in the first place before you would really be making out such purchase on which we know that being practical would really be the best.Although there are really just those people who are really that liking to buy something which is expensive whether it is really just that because you do like on dealing or buying quality things or simply
you do really like to get along with the trend then you would really be having those kind of considerations and this is why it wont really be shocking that people would really be
having that different considerations but well it would really be just that depending on a certain person, its our money then its our right on what are the things that we do love to buy.
As long you arent compromising your finances then it would really be just that fine. There are really just that people who are really that loving on savings as much as they could.

This is indeed a necessary thing to do because after all, when we buy an item, especially when the item is quite expensive, we must consider several other options so that what we do does not become a regret in the end so that some considerations like what you do are a very good thing in the end.

But sometimes in some cases urgent action is needed and I think it is necessary. For example, when we need an item to support the work that we do, indirectly when it is urgent like this, I think it's okay if we try to buy without thinking, but if it doesn't need to be too rushed, then the option for consideration like you did is a good condition so that in the end what we buy does not hamper and does not make it a regret.

     You know, I'm just one of those people who can be said not to be a luxury creature, even though I'm capable of buying a MacBook laptop. First of all, I don't believe that when you buy luxury things, it will give you productivity in the eyes of other people.

     Why do rich people do that? Only people who feel entitled do that. I'm sorry, this is my opinion, and I'm speaking in general. We all want beautiful and high-quality products. But not all people are luxurious because not everyone is capable of getting their luxury, so even if the former looks like a luxury, they will get it.

Needing that type of gadget depends on your work. If you're going to buy it because your productivity will surely increase and the tools that you need on that laptop will be maximizing and easing your tasks, you can have it not as a luxury or you have something to boast for but it is for your own sake.

It's okay brother. If that's what you think buying these expensive gadgets or laptops seem to be others reference, that's fine because if it gives them joy to have it and they're buying it with their own money, there's problem with that.

If it's going to make you money, it's not luxurious to have it but you can describe it as an investment because it will help you to have more ways of generating income through the usage of it.

I know many stories of people who once earned a lot of money and because of that time they got used to living a life of luxury. They remained in the habit of living a luxurious life but from the middle only their large sums of money income ceased. They could not come out of their luxurious life even though they had a lot of money income which resulted in the savings that they had being depleted within a few years and they had to lead a very miserable life as all the savings were exhausted. I have also seen a person who earned a lot of money begging at the end of his life. Anything can happen to us in the future so we have to prepare in advance to face all kinds of challenges in the future.

hahaha, maybe those who want to be stylish, one of their goals is to take photos and then upload them to their own Instagram and that way they can get lots of likes and comments, maybe because it's not certain either. Too high an appetite is also not good, we have to just adjust what we have and what we want, don't force it too much because that can make us stressed too. Ordinary luxurious clothes or appearance will only provide pleasure for a short period of time. Of course we have to be able to maintain our happiness because no one wants their happiness to end quickly, but if they do choose that method then it's fine, as long as they can balance it well.

Yes, that's true, everyone definitely wants wealth or financial freedom, that's what everyone wants, because with wealth they can buy what they want easily. but if we really want wealth then we should be willing to work hard, because what you said is true, no one becomes big overnight except only in dreams. We have to do what we want, a comfortable and guaranteed future depends on how we prepare it ourselves.

Setting criteria and asking questions before buying an item is essential for us to avoid wasting money in life. But sometimes we are too strict with life, too stingy with ourselves, is that still life? The ultimate goal of our investment and hard work is to have a financially free life and not worry too much about money. So in my opinion, try to work hard and make a lot of money, then you won't need to spend too much time thinking or hesitating when buying anything to serve your life.

I bet that everyone wants to use luxury, branded items, those who say they don't want it are because they don't have enough money to own them. So let's focus on making money and making money, then we will find the rest will be easier instead of having to think too much every time we shop.

I have heard following "money attracts money". Also people judge other by their look. Important to make first impression as good as possible. If you come on an investors meeting with an old Volkswagen Golf, I believe not many will have a desire to talk to you. But if you come with new Porsche, even if it is rented, people will have different approach to you. Not saying that this most important, but having luxury or branded items is one of indicators of success (but a person needs a to have a taste).

To some extent, this is true but some people might take it too far.

I know so many cases wherein one person is trying so hard to appear rich by having or owning many luxurious items even if they may be fake. The thing is it’s kinda better to own fake ones than be so deep in debt trying to pay for these original luxury items.

I personally wouldn’t use or wear a fake luxury item not because I’m above that but I just don’t see the point of presenting myself with luxury items knowing that I can’t afford them anyway. I’d rather work my way and then start buying the real ones.

You are talking about it with a business representation mindset where a person needs to look good and professional to gain attention because someone who doesn't look up to a high standard will barely catch many eyes. However, that isn't necessary for someone in their normal life. You can't go around wearing a suit all the time just to show the world that you are living a luxurious life and that you can afford it, that isn't grooming your personality but it is showing off, and one shouldn't be doing that.

If you are earning a lot of money, have a bunch of businesses around the world, and have prepared for your future with your businesses and savings, and you can still afford to do that, go ahead, there is nothing wrong with looking good if you can do it. However, if that isn't the case, you are earning some money and spending it all on luxury items only to look good for the world, then you are making a mistake because your first priority should be to secure your future.

Spending money on grooming your personality all the time while having insecurities about the near or distant future makes no sense to me.

indeed the example above might be the case of bad financial management so devoured by their consumerism which isn't a good practice even more so if our income isn't consistent or just 1 massive profit and then no profit afterward this kind of people usually have the most fragile financial condition and need immediate investment because otherwise their money just gonna vanish into thin air.
but there's no harm in endulging in luxury life if it could somehow make our income boosted, remember that there are certain jobs where people judge book by the cover, if you have luxurious stuff that not average people could afford people's impression of you might be more towards reliable and the fact that you can afford that thing means you won't get swayed by money easily. even though thats actually just illusion but sometime that works, you see those trading gurus that promises millions within a night, this strategy is exactly what they are doing here.
also there are legit works that also need you to have some luxurious thing just to get on their level that just how society works.

Anything or everything which is already outside of our budget or even outside already on how much we do earn on everyday then its something a bad decision that had been made. Its not bad to buy up something luxurious
but you should really be having those kind of moment where you would really be minding about practicality and not really just that making yourself that getting along on whats the current trend that we do have in the market.

If you are someone whose really that loving on buying expensive things and have already forgotten about those more important or priorities then this is where shit things starts to happen. You would already notice it out on the time that you would be having those financial struggle. Never ever make yourself that too confident that you could make money forever because even having your own dayjob cant really be able to save you up
on having that a secured future. It would really be depending about on having multiple income source.

this is a really good good way to live in line with your financial capabilities but the issue is that it takes a lot of discipline and effort to be able to do this self check up before ever making any purchase.

I guess one of the most crucial question we have to ask ourselves is do I really need this thing at this moment? if we are sincere enough to give ourself the required answers, then most of the things we are spending huge money on won't even bother us.

Productivity is within each of us because other people only judge us by the results we get, although many also judge us by the luxury goods we use now. But if you can work with simple items that are not too luxurious, I think it will be much better than spending more money on luxury items. Even though it is also intended for your own work facilities.

I also don't deny this because everyone really wants to wear luxury goods of fairly high quality, but this is always limited by the amount of price and money that has to be spent to get it. So clearly not everyone can get the luxury goods they want except only rich people who are no longer afraid of spending more money on the luxury goods they want.

What else should we expect when we have the required money, we then have to enjoy it and live a luxury life, base on my understanding, everyone would have love to live a luxury life but time and chance couldn't allow because not all of us have the same birth place and destiny, the only opportunity there for any person interest to rewrite his own story through handworks could definitely achieve such, but not every is determined or ready to give it all it required as sacrifice, but every life deserves a luxury living even though not all will emerge in such.

The point here is just simple, I understand your point when it comes the luxury lifestyle. Satisfying yourself should always come first but it doesn't necessary mean you have to purchase for more or expensive stuffs when you don't have the money. Luxury lifestyle is definitely a pleasure but it also has to do with hardwork, no one is actually saying you should stop living a luxury lifestyle but as seen in our society everything has an implication, caution is needed mostly in the financial aspect, planning is necessary.

Having a luxurious life and enjoying it is one way of appreciating yourself after working hard to achieve this achievement, that's a natural thing, but sometimes there are also some people who force themselves to live a luxurious life until it ends up being a disaster for them because they are unable to continue doing such things for a long time. meet the needs.

Regarding a person's ability or readiness to achieve this, it all comes back to a person's goals and journey, basically it cannot be denied that almost everyone wants a luxurious life, but it all comes back to themselves, there are people who have been born luxurious because of hard work. parents and others also have to try hard to achieve that, and that is not an easy thing.

That is the truth and we should look at reality to try harder and achieve more in life. We should not stubbornly deny the fact that we do not like luxury items and that they are a waste. When I say this, it will probably make many people unhappy and offended, but only poor people criticize and complain about what others do. As for rich people, they will focus on work, they work hard to earn money to get things that the whole society dreams of.

We should stop judging everything, focus on making money to improve our lives, luxury items, delicious food, beautiful wives, big houses...are things that everyone needs and wants to have. Let's not deceive ourselves and everyone else by saying we don't need those things.

If I go out in worn-out clothes, unshaved and with greasy hair, then what kind of "secure future" you are talking about? Person must always start from himself. Want a better life, aim to have it. Buy first luxury and expensive item, get shocked by its price, set a life goal "not being shocked by prices" and do everything to achieve it. A person will never get wealthy with save on everything or buy something average mindset. I dont wear suit all the time, but I have a reminder on my wrist that pushes me to work harder all the time. Expensive mechanical watch reminds me to do my best every time I check time.

Each person is different on which they would really be having that different insights and different perspectives in life from clothing until into the things that they do want to own on which there would really be things that we do really like to buy since from the beginning but due to inability on doing so because of financial problems then we are really that hindered for it to happen and this is why it would really be that normal that on the time these fellas would really be able to get a hold of an amount that they havent been able to hold before, then the main thing that they would really be having in mind is that they would really be buying on the things that they have long time wishing for.

Actually its not really that bad to have such considerations as long you wont really be doing it excessively. Usually people do messed up their lives on the time that they would really be doing
things on which arent supposed to be that much or simply we do know the thing that everythings too much would really be that bad.  So it would really be that a normal approach
for you to have in regarding on making up decisions.

I agree with you that this is one way of appreciating yourself after working hard. Because in my opinion this is a necessity too, because of course we ourselves cannot possibly continue working without thinking about things that make us happy, of course we need things that make us happy, whether it's shopping for luxury goods or going to recreation areas. And that's normal, but it's not natural if we force ourselves and it just gets us into trouble as you said.

It's true what you say, most people definitely want a luxurious life, whether it's from goods or something else. We have to be able to balance ourselves with what we earn, if our income is more than enough then that's not a problem, and if we really want a luxurious life we have to be able to balance it.

I am not really into luxury items as they don't really fit my style I would say. When it comes to expensive drinks I prefer my local brewed beer to champagne. As for food I would rather eat a well cooked steak than some fancy caviar lobster dish. Same goes for clothes, I prefer sturdy casual wear to fancy dress ups. Probably because I am a clumsy person and my clothes always get dirty or tear. As for jewelry, I prefer to wear my grandfather's watch than buying anything new. Probably I am a bad consumer in general. Looking at the Arnault family that are now the richest people in the world, there must be a high demand for luxury items.

That's a good personality, and sometimes there are people who are very strong in their principles without caring about the environment or the urge to follow current trends.

Actually, I also think that, I don't care about luxury goods or the latest products, I only care about things that are important to me and that I am comfortable using without caring about the brand or price.

In today's life, luxury is being prioritized because social influence continues to increase so it seems like we are forced to follow the trends that are present in our environment, and sometimes this is not good for everyone.
I really don't agree if people put luxury before their needs, because in my opinion whether it is luxurious or not depends on our respective abilities.

There are many such people who try to get their luxury even though the luxury they want is bought from debt. This often happens here in our country with call center agents. Social climber pretenders, who try to level themselves with the rich or class-type people even though in reality they are not.

Then, the contents of the wallet are still full of credit cards, and the worst thing is that they are still short of money even though the salary is high at work. It's okay to buy your luxury as long as you can afford it because it's like you're rewarding yourself; it's that simple. But don't brag about it to others; it's not good, in my opinion.

There used to be a time when you tell people that you want to buy a car and they will tell you not to buy it because a car is not an asset but a liability, it will only depreciate with time and will continue to consume the money in your pockets with little or more weekly to monthly maintenance but that's not entirely true. There are some environment that you will stay and care will be a necessity, you need it to make your life easier than booking commercial ride like Uber. There are some deals that you will want to make that you will need a car to look presentable, without it you will never get the deal.

However, I also think that even as somethings are necessity, we should buy things that will add value to us sometime and not just buy something because of inferiority complex and also due to peer pressure, these kind of spending makes us buy things that we don't even need.

It all comes down to knowing the difference between luxury and being extravagant, everybody love the good things of life, living in luxury is living a comfortable life, there is a level someone will be wealthy he won't have a choice but to live in luxury even when he or she tries to cut down his cost of living,

Luxury is spending good money on things that really matters, but being extravagant is spending money of unnecessary things that you don't even need,  For me I see luxury as spending more on your needs and being extravagant as spending more on your wants.
In conclusion everyone desires and deserve the luxury of life, that's a comfortable life.

Agree. We must satisfy ourselves but we must understand the limit. We don't satisfy ourselves with too expensive stuffs. I think it is unnecessary.
I don't know why people want to have luxury lifestyle. I think it is not a must to have this, I think it is enough to live with comfortably. In my dream, I want to live with humble lifestyle, that's enough as long as we're happy with our little family.

For some people, living with luxury lifestyle may be a pride. They want to expose it to other people if they have been successful people. But sometimes, if we do this, many people don't want to socialize with us. Some people don't feel comfortable when they are communicating with people who have luxury lifestyle. So, I think living with luxury lifestyle doesn't always a good thing.

That means you are one of those people who are able to think long term, or it means that you prioritize other more important things such as putting some money that is not used by needs or left over from needs to be saved for other interests in the future, which is like what you said about your personality where you prefer a simple life without any luxuries. The fact is that living simply without luxuries is not as bad as some people imagine, we can still live by consuming simple food and not always about delicious food in a restaurant.

The point is that management should be prioritized, it is better for us to live simply than to have a luxurious life but full of stress because of having a luxurious lifestyle but not in accordance with the financial situation. And I believe that people who make luxury a necessity are those who are wrong in terms of association where they have a circle of friends who have a glamorous life so that you feel you have to adjust to others in terms of lifestyle even though your finances do not support, or there are also those who always want to be above others, or the intention is always to look glamorous but in fact the actual finances do not support and believe me that a luxurious lifestyle will only make you depressed when your financial situation does not match.

I beg to differ, as luxury or luxurious lifestyle is something which is not preferred by everyone and may be majority would like to live and even justify it as it's their hard earned and there is no harm in it but the problem arises only when people live that luxurious life by cheating and stealing money from other people like politicians do.

I have seen people and even if I can afford such lifestyle I would still prefer a simple life at countryside.

I think luxury is not only for the rich and luxury is not for the corrupt, but luxury is actually something we want to achieve from the results of our hard work for our own lifestyle needs. I interpret luxury like that because luxury is not something that is expensive and I think everyone can feel it. luxury based on each economic class,

You can even achieve a life of luxury even if you choose a simple life, so luxury is a common one even though its definition is often associated with wealth, but actually luxury can be interpreted in other ways even though it is not tied to wealth.

It is true, humans in general do not understand what desires are and what needs are. Many people would rather be poor in money than poor in style, sometimes income and expenses are not comparable. Buying luxury goods is not prohibited, just buy according to your needs because this is important to maintain financial stability, even if buying expensive goods is due to work obligations, in other words these goods are productive.

We should use our money wisely, buy things according to our needs, not just to maintain prestige / so that other people think we are capable even though in fact we are not, life is always full of falsehoods. Life is simple, just pursuing luxury becomes complicated, this is real.

People tend to spend a lot of money to buy a lot of things just for their needs, but sometimes those luxury to them could symbolize that they are wealthy or they afford that kind of thing or could be a trophy of achievement to them. But if you are the kind of person who seeks to have debt, buys expensive things to flex and will depreciation and you don't know any more where to seek your payment, I guess you are in the wrong mindset. People could tell those luxuries of course as branded or higher quality reasons too why most of people often to buy their products or even their services.

buying expensive things or food shows that a person has the ability to buy it, sometimes like I do, I just buy expensive things, especially in food if I know I deserve to buy it especially if I haven't had it yet tried since then, we can't say either because there are some people who just now experienced holding too much money or just now had an income, so I think it's okay to do it once in a while. The only thing that is not good about this kind of doing is that if you are doing it just to show that you have money or to brag about something, even though the truth is that there is none, especially today, people are proud of sharing their lives and achievements in social medias. We don't need to keep up with them especially if we experience struggles in life, it's better tto be practical and  allocate our money to more important things.

we're all guilty of the occasional splurge. But this luxury versus necessity thing? It's a trap. This idea that fancy crap equals happiness; that's the oldest con in the book. Don't get me wrong, a juicy steak or a sleek new gadget can be sweet, but when treating yourself becomes a crutch, that's when it gets ugly

The real question is, why do you feel like you need fancy stuff to be fulfilled? Buying to fill an emotional hole or just to floss on Instagram is a losing game. True strength isn't about how much crap you own. Real power comes from knowing when to spend and when to save. Understanding that true success isn't measured in possessions, it's measured in financial peace and mental well-being. That's the real flex

I agree with some of the opinions of other members here. There is a difference when you say it is luxury and high quality. High quality means you spend more money to buy goods with more uses and more comfortable use. Luxury means you spend more money to buy pride and prestige, not the actual value of an item in use.

If you buy a MacBook, it means you are buying a laptop with high quality compared to other laptops at a cheaper price. But if you buy a Macbook that is plated with gold, or a Macbook signed by a famous figure that costs dozens of times more than Macbooks on the market, you have bought luxury.

There are only two types of people in this world that we live in at this time: the luxurious person and the non-luxurious person. Maybe it's okay to buy a luxury that you want as long as you're happy and don't struggle to have it.

For me, luxury is good if you can afford it and you are happy. But it's not good to get a luxury that you are happy with, but the joy you feel is not full because you mean it monthly so that you can pay it in full until the very last month when it is paid off. It's hard because you get your luxury, but you're trying hard, and you're just forcing yourself to be at the level of people who can afford them.

I think the major reason behind that is the things we watch on social media and other  tv networks. These influencers actually play with our mind by showing only some minutes of their whole day they convince us to believe that their whole life revolves around the luxuries. This is never the case and we should not be impressed by these types of people.

Life is a balance between worries, sorrows, sadness etc. No one here is living a perfect life rather everyone is facing problems. We should focus on the strategy to solve the problem rather than working on creating a life with no problem. Luxury has no definition in my opinion it changes as your bank balance changes. It's a car which is driven without brakes.

Off course poverty it self is a big problem that it hinders you from seeing far and confined you to a level, the poor always see those living a lugeriuous life as people who don't know what they are doing
Just as the writer has said there are environment you expose your self to that things begin to work well better for you

There are lots of people who lives a simple life while they are in their home but buy expensive dresses and other materials when they go outside of their home so I think such people are not wealthy but they know that how to handle expenses and how to hide their financial state from others.

One cannot buy branded materials all the time if he does not have any amount therefore try to manage expenses and if one make a plan then he can also fulfil his dream as well as his needs will also be easily done. Most of the people are poor but they don't show such thing to the society because they shy for having such status but I think you can evaluate your skills to earn from different options.

Its hard to justify luxury in a purely working way only when rich does it start to make sense because one person only has so much time on their hands each day before they must sleep rest and wait to work the next day etc.

   Eventually if you are rich enough you can say my private Jet plane is essential to me its not even a luxury anymore and I wont argue in some cases.  Time is not a resource they can purchase any more of at any price hence any tool which can save time becomes worthwhile even while still expensive & across many normally luxury items;  thats justified logical thinking I'd agree with.

To some extent this whole altered product purpose is part of what makes capitalism I suppose.  If you are poor, if you have no fulltime job perhaps then you do have this time element which others while busy and maybe 'rich' are lacking.  Hence time to learn or somehow provide a time saving product is a possibility.  Maybe time is the ultimate real commodity and the rest is what we trade as a proxy for that, I've heard something very similar said by old rich businessmen I think.

Everyone does not want to end up experiencing a lot of problems and pressures in their lives, but sometimes they themselves trigger and cause new problems in their own lives through mindsets and habits that should not be done. Actually, there is nothing wrong in this because life is always about choices, but sometimes there are some people who create many factors that can trigger many problems, such as having a mindset and habits of luxury in living life, it is not wrong but it will be a problem if basically your financial situation is not supportive.

On the other hand believe me that when you always force something that moreover it has become a habit then clearly I will say that you will only experience a lot of pressure and will not be calm in living life, eliminate the habit of always luxuriating because the mindset and lifestyle like that will only make you trapped in a lot of problems and pressures such as getting into debt for forcing something that is actually beyond your ability, having a simple life is not as bad as you imagine.

IMO it depend on your point of view of all aspects because forcing yourself can be a pretty good thing but on the other hand it can actually be bad depending on what you want to feel or how our point of view is in forcing something.

For example in this case when we continue to try to force to support all the needs we have with work or all forms that will make it a positive thing and can even be in luxury at the end, such as investing or forcing to manage money well even though our income is small then I think it can be a positive thing for the future. But if we force ourselves just to look hedon and prioritize prestige without caring what we do and how much we spend, the most important thing is that our habit is fulfilled and the prestige we have is not reduced then indeed it could be a bad situation and this will actually make it difficult for you to navigate the harsh life like now in the end.

I can see this in my environment, because there are some families like that, to the point that it even triggers gossip that is not true, like they think the family can have luxurious things because their jobs are not good or whatever, the point is that there are people who are prejudiced against families who have simple houses but they can have luxurious assets or property. In my opinion, it doesn't have to be like that, because I also want to be like that, living in a simple house but having lots of sophisticated assets and properties. It's also not good to be prejudiced against other people, it's better to just use the motivation as if he could have luxury goods so we can definitely have them if we really want them.

What you say is also true, it's true that they live in simple houses and have jobs or not much income, but they can own luxury branded goods or have high prices because they can manage their finances well. I myself don't really care about my appearance, I wear what I want and that makes me comfortable. There was also a situation where I went to a big mall with a simple appearance, and my friend whispered to me about how many other people were paying attention to my appearance because it may be simple or it may be environmentally unethical, but I don't mind it because I feel this is not detrimental to me. so I kept ignoring it. they don't support me anyway.

Yes I understand what you mean here which is that forcing something can be an action that will not be a problem but it depends on how the context is, if for example it leads to a situation that will only make our lives depressed such as having a low income but having glamorous living habits and lifestyles then obviously it will only make you feel depressed and have a life that is far from calm and also yes it depends on one's perspective on the context, but sometimes there are some people who are wrong in thinking where they make decisions without being based on common sense and rational points of view.

As I said that it depends on the context, if for example the purpose of their luxury leads to positive things such as buying luxury goods but with the aim of making it a high-value investment item and then selling it in the future then yes this can be said to be a smart strategy in accumulating money even though at first glance it looks like luxury. That is the problem, which is not uncommon these days we find quite a lot of people who have a glamorous life on social media but when we see them in the real world or in real life it turns out to be surprising that they have a financial situation that is quite concerning, and in some cases I even see that there are some of them who rent a luxury item when they want to go to an event, and I'm sure it's a life full of stress.

Indeed, it is okay to buy a luxury that you dream of because I think everyone definitely wants luxury, especially now that technology is developing so much that everything is sophisticated. It's just that we need to consider whether we are mamou or not, because indeed we have to be confident and confident to be successful or be able to reach the point of financial freedom or wealth, but being too self-confident is also not good, hopefully we can look at ourselves or look in the mirror, what we have to do , adjust our abilities, don't force yourself too much to keep working hard, every now and then we need to appreciate ourselves, such as pampering ourselves by buying what we want, as long as we can afford it and it doesn't get us into problems that can last in the long term.

Working hard is a must because everyone definitely has dreams that must be achieved, but don't let us focus so much on working hard that we lose track of time and neglect our health, everything needs to be considered carefully. Don't just take actions that will get you into trouble. Everything is stable and based on our own abilities.

You speck wisely because these influencers that we do see on social media always engage in debt and fake lives. Some of them you even have a better chance of survival and a higher source of income than them, but they will be showing you more luxurious things on social media that they can also not afford.
 
Because most of what they do on social media is based on sponsorship, so if the company that is sponsoring them stops sponsoring them, you will not hear anything again from them. That is when you will see a drastic downfall for them because all those things are also some sources of advertisements, and after they dissipate, the company that they advertise paid them, which the money will be giving to the sponsor, and the sponsor is the one to pay the social media influencer. So, if you look deeply, you will find out that all of their lives will be based on debt and fake things. That is why seeing a social media influencer as a role model is the best mistake you will ever make in your entire life. 

Those who can live a simple life of course they have good financial management and they will be able to buy goods that are of good quality so that they can appear luxurious in front of other people and people don't know that they only have a small income but they can manage it well .

For some people who have an income that is only enough for their needs, of course it will be very difficult to buy luxury goods all the time, but if they have good financial management of course they will be able to collect the remaining money that is used for their needs and will be able to buy it when they need it. their money has been collected, but if the person cannot manage their income well they certainly cannot buy the luxury items they want and developing skills that can earn income would certainly be better because this will help us meet the needs we need and also the desire to own luxury goods like those who have a lot of income.

You are right that there is nothing wrong if someone chooses to have a luxurious lifestyle but only if they can afford to do that and only if they know they have secured their future already but can still afford to have a luxurious life then they can go ahead for it, there is nothing better than having a secure future and a luxury life. However, it is a problem if a person is spending everything they earn on their life to make it luxurious while having no idea what they would do in the future if they don't have any income or anything and face financial problems.

The point is, that it is not wise to spend every penny you earn to buy the luxuries of life when you have no preparation for your future. So a person's priority should be to do something for their future first, and once they have done that, and can still afford to have luxuries, they can do it without any hesitation.

Your money your rules then this is something a very standard approach on things in life on which we know that this is something that you would really be needing to have that considerations.
Its impossible that you wont really be able to determine whether you are still spending just fine or already that over on what you are earning, it would really be that impossible that you cant be able to tell
into yourself on what you are spending and on what are your plans that would really be getting in line with it. Its not bad to live on a luxury life but of course just like on what you have said that it should really
be that in line on how much you are earning because if you are spending way more than on you do earn then this is where problem do starts to happen.

This is what you do make those purchases then it would really be that be better that having those considerations as always. You cant just that make yourself that
careless decisions because it would really be costing you.

well, I think it's okay to buy expensive things for work. If you can afford it, and it can help you in your work, then it would be better to buy it.
IMO, buying things that we will use for the long term at a more expensive price and that we can afford, will be better than buying things that are cheap, but hinder us in the work we have. Apart from that, the bigger the workload we have, the more things we need, and usually the items we need are items that have high prices.
Apart from that, another example, when someone has a high position, they are given expensive facilities. This is to make them work optimally. So, I think it's a common thing. If people start to get jealous of that, then just ignore them.

Yes, as long as we can afford it, buying expensive things is a good thing to do. Many people quite funny think that buying a Macbook or iPhone is a waste. But I've used quite a few computers and phones and I have to admit that cheap and mid-range computers and phones will never compare to the more expensive ones.
I once tested this with my mother, who is an elderly person and did not know the value of both. I gave my mother the mid-range Samsung phone and the Iphone 14 I was using. My mother is very satisfied with the smoothness that IOS brings and the luxurious appearance of IP14, she says it is very beautiful and smooth to use. Then I quoted the price of 2 products, and she said IP14 was too expensive but it was worth the money and worth using.

Let's not fool ourselves that we don't want to use expensive, luxurious things simply because our economic conditions don't allow it. At work, too, I am extremely comfortable working with expensive computers and remember the past of struggling to use old devices. Slowness, lag, and constant interruptions while working are what I have to experience when using an old, cheap computer.

I agree on your given example, I'm also a fan of buying high quality products especially if I can use it for a long time and I know I will be  needing it at work or to make my life easier with the things I do. For me, buying high quality products is considered as an investment especially if I can use it for my work. It is better for us to spend on the things that we know help us to be efficient and effective employees. Based on my observation, if you buy something with low quality, it will break easily  and what will happen is that you will buy a new one because you need it. If the product you buy always breaks, try to calculate the total price of everything you bought and you will be surprised that your cost has increased even more compared to buying high end products.

absolutely. Environment effect is one of th reason why we call something luxury. Most of the the things we from the average developing country look at as a luxurious things are what's readily available for an average person in a developed world and they don't normally make a big deal out of it. That's why most persons that a e living in such an environment are more productive and industrious because they have so many previlages that's for some one in an environment like ours is termed luxury but for them, it's just a necessity that helps one live a more comfortable life.

I agree with your opinion. It's okay when someone buys goods for the reason of helping us in our work, because it can increase enthusiasm for work. However, if we are unable to do accounting, we should not force ourselves because not all workers have to have the goods they want.
But when a worker cannot consider income and expenses it is very bad. For example if the goods we want do not match our income at work it can also hinder our work, and if we force ourselves we will definitely end up borrowing. So every item we want must be balanced with our income, therefore we as humans are not good at forcing ourselves.
So, adjust your desires to your income, if your income is a little better buy the goods you want that are cheap, as long as they are not cheap.

i agree with this the discrepancy between the developing country and developed country is huge actually, whereas almost all of the people in developed country are having laptops to work with, people in developing country are having a hard time getting one, its clearly reflected if we take iphone as an example, whereas its just 1 month wage to pay for an iphone if we are working in developed country and its gonna be whole 2 year for people coming from developing country to buy an iphone. such huge differences applied to whatever electronics there is that I think its also one of the reason that hinder literacy from growing further in certain developing country where they just can't afford what people from developed country could afford.
its just overall a really bad situation to get in but there's nothing that they can do, best way is to get scholarship, even it doesn't guarantee success, some people with scholarship ended up with their old lifestyle being poor again because nepotism is rampant.

Luxury is never a necessity and buying a Mac laptop might seem costly but is nowhere near what luxury actually stands for. However the Apple ecosystem is built in a way that having an Apple device in the midst of non-Apple devices will lead to a lot of problems when transferring from one to another, which is a deliberate thing that their devs have created.

Anyway, being able to control your own spending is a boon and most people cannot achieve this. If you ever feel that you spent too much, let that be a lesson and eventually make your future choices reasonably.

Folks in rich countries have all the gadgets. Tech's practically running their lives. Meanwhile, developing nations are barely online. This isn't just about who has the latest smartphone. This is a deep, systemic problem. It's about education, jobs, the whole damn future

People born on the wrong side of this divide? They're not victims, they're potential powerhouses. Necessity is a hell of a teacher.  We gotta break the mold; forget the fancy degrees, we need on-the-ground programs, teaching real-world tech skills, empowering communities to build their own solutions. Yeah, a bit of help from the top wouldn't hurt, either

Some scholarships are nice, but that's not enough. This isn't a charity case. It's about changing the whole system. The old guard, the privileged kids with the connections? Their advantage isn't unbreakable. There's a long road ahead, and it's gonna be rough. But bridging this divide, making opportunity truly global ;  that's a fight worth having, and one we absolutely have to win