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March 08, 2024, 11:02:40 PM
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There are people that are not influenced nor moved by wealth. They prefer a modest and average lifestyle to that of a wealthy and luxurious one.
But living a modest and average lifestyle doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy quality goods and services. Everyone likes and appreciates quality goods and a high level of service and would go for it whenever possible.

Your topic head should read; “when quality becomes a necessity” and not luxury. Luxury isn’t really a necessity in the life of an individual.
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March 08, 2024, 11:53:55 PM
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Currently, it cannot be denied that lifestyle has become a necessity, because other people will judge us based on what they see. Sometimes we have to look attractive in order to be respected by other people and so that our existence can be recognized by them, but this only applies to people who do not have sufficient knowledge and abilities. because for those who have high knowledge and extraordinary abilities in the fields they master, they do not need an outer appearance that seems luxurious and expensive, because they themselves are more expensive than what they wear.

So we just have to choose, do we want to be respected because of our appearance or because of the abilities and knowledge we have...? However, if our life only revolves around prestige, then it will never end... following prestige will only torture ourselves. Because we cannot continue to appear perfect in front of other people, it would be better if we live as we are, let other people know us from what we achieve, not from what we wear. And if you succeed in making it happen, become someone who is successful and rich, owns a number of companies everywhere, then even when you walk around in a T-shirt and flip-flops, you will still be recognized and respected by other people, because other people know who you are.

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March 09, 2024, 04:28:19 AM
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Currently, it cannot be denied that lifestyle has become a necessity, because other people will judge us based on what they see. Sometimes we have to look attractive in order to be respected by other people and so that our existence can be recognized by them, but this only applies to people who do not have sufficient knowledge and abilities. because for those who have high knowledge and extraordinary abilities in the fields they master, they do not need an outer appearance that seems luxurious and expensive, because they themselves are more expensive than what they wear.

So we just have to choose, do we want to be respected because of our appearance or because of the abilities and knowledge we have...? However, if our life only revolves around prestige, then it will never end... following prestige will only torture ourselves. Because we cannot continue to appear perfect in front of other people, it would be better if we live as we are, let other people know us from what we achieve, not from what we wear. And if you succeed in making it happen, become someone who is successful and rich, owns a number of companies everywhere, then even when you walk around in a T-shirt and flip-flops, you will still be recognized and respected by other people, because other people know who you are.
This is the sad truth on which people would really be tending to look at your posture or on how you do wear clothes and make those kind of judgment on what kind of status of life you do have in terms of financial.
If you are really that somewhat too simple or being that not neat then they would really be having those impressions that you are poor or beggar like condition which do really sucks with that kind of behavior.
It turns out that people that even not really have that good financial status would really be thriving or doing its very best for it to look good because treatment would really be that entirely different
when you do look poor. This is why it would really be that normal that they would really be having this kind of approach into things because of this judgmental world we do have now.
It is really just that it do need up that kind of control and moderation on this sense because not all would really be that good when it comes to moderation and control
when it comes to spending even if its not already that practical.

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March 09, 2024, 06:25:34 AM
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"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.
Youa re correct.  High quality simply implies that the materials, the crafting, and performance  of the product, item or service are perfect but not necessarily expensive.

For me I considered them as a investment as well, no offense, but I'm a Macbook user and so I bought sometime, years ago 2018 from my crypto earnings. And up to know I'm still using it to make trades and still making money from my crypto activities. So I took it as a investment when I bought it back then and still now making me money.

I agree with this a lot. What use are cheaper products if it would not last you long and you can’t even use it properly? I think that if I can’t afford to buy it now then I’ll save up to buy the more expensive one especially if I believe it would do me good in the future.

I think you should spend money on things you will be using a lot. Clothes, shoes, cars are things I consider as luxuries and do not really need to be expensive. Of course there are exceptions like for example I need a blazer, I might invest on buying some really good one.

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March 09, 2024, 10:40:02 AM
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There are people that are not influenced nor moved by wealth. They prefer a modest and average lifestyle to that of a wealthy and luxurious one.
But living a modest and average lifestyle doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy quality goods and services. Everyone likes and appreciates quality goods and a high level of service and would go for it whenever possible.
Here people's interest takes priority. I have seen that even a normal family people use good and high quality products. Although they have little money there, they try to use good things. I can never consider it as a luxury because they can buy good products or services for their needs, it is very normal. But if one cannot ensure its proper use after purchasing more than necessary goods then it can be a luxury. I have seen some people in my local area who give priority to quality and there are many who have wealth but can't choose good things.

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March 09, 2024, 11:29:18 AM
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There are people that are not influenced nor moved by wealth. They prefer a modest and average lifestyle to that of a wealthy and luxurious one.
But living a modest and average lifestyle doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy quality goods and services. Everyone likes and appreciates quality goods and a high level of service and would go for it whenever possible.
Here people's interest takes priority. I have seen that even a normal family people use good and high quality products. Although they have little money there, they try to use good things. I can never consider it as a luxury because they can buy good products or services for their needs, it is very normal. But if one cannot ensure its proper use after purchasing more than necessary goods then it can be a luxury. I have seen some people in my local area who give priority to quality and there are many who have wealth but can't choose good things.
Of course everyone will use a product that suits their needs and also suits the income we have, because if we don't have enough income to use a product that suits our income of course we have chosen a luxurious product with a high price but we don't need these goods and if someone can buy good quality goods of course they can afford to buy them and also they need these goods, some people prioritize the quality of goods of course they don't want to spend their money on the type of goods they have to buy several times of course they just want to buy it once and they can use it until they are satisfied.
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March 09, 2024, 10:32:40 PM
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That a product is luxurious doesn’t necessarily mean that it is a high quality product. In my line of work as a fashion designer, I can tell you for a fact that the luxury fashion brands you know and spend a lot of money on are produced by the same factories as the not so popular ones. People put value in brand names rather than quality itself. I could also say the same about iPhones and android phones, apple has positioned themselves as a luxury product that so many people today choose an iPhone over android without considering the pros and cons of both devices.

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I agree with this a lot. What use are cheaper products if it would not last you long and you can’t even use it properly? I think that if I can’t afford to buy it now then I’ll save up to buy the more expensive one especially if I believe it would do me good in the future.

I think you should spend money on things you will be using a lot. Clothes, shoes, cars are things I consider as luxuries and do not really need to be expensive. Of course there are exceptions like for example I need a blazer, I might invest on buying some really good one.
indeed things aren't as simple as buying cheapest one and get over with it sometime quality matters too, we can be trying to save some money buying the cheapest clothes there is, but if the clothes rips just within a few weeks of use whats the point we gonna be buying clothes again eventually and that is an even worse way of wasting our money.
at least buy the bare minimum of quality clothes that guaranteed to last long then its okay.,

being cheap doesn't always mean we are saving money we can be getting into more trouble by just simply being cheap.
thats the thing, being smart managing financial also involve knowledge of knowing how to buy the best goods there is, its not always about the price but always about something attributed to that goods itself.

knowing that, we can easily save ourselves from being tricked by some sellers that give shittiest cloth at cheap price just because they want to get rid of it.
there's always reasons why certain good is priced higher compared with other at the same category maybe its because the quality, brand, funcitonality, or even reliability.

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That a product is luxurious doesn’t necessarily mean that it is a high quality product. In my line of work as a fashion designer, I can tell you for a fact that the luxury fashion brands you know and spend a lot of money on are produced by the same factories as the not so popular ones. People put value in brand names rather than quality itself. I could also say the same about iPhones and android phones, apple has positioned themselves as a luxury product that so many people today choose an iPhone over android without considering the pros and cons of both devices.

I agree, here in our country there's a lot of high end luxury items that are made of low to mid quality products. They buy products from a large manufacturing company that has mid quality products, they will buy it at a cheap price because they will buy it in bulk and then they will process it and put a brand tag on it and sell it in the market at a very high price. In fact, it is said that the brand name is what makes it so expensive, but if you look at the quality, it is almost the same as those sold on the sidewalk or normal shopping stores.



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March 09, 2024, 11:59:41 PM
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OP has mentioned the term luxury with the MacBook and given a briefing on its usage. I would like to consider using a smartphone to give the briefing. Just a $100 smartphone does almost as much as a $1000 smartphone. Here we'll see the difference in how it performs and the smooth execution. Another thing is that the life of the product is greatly dependent on how well we use it. So, it is all about the person's mind and not about the product. It is true that for some needs we cannot compromise and specific products are necessary, and without that, going for expensive products is kind of wasting money to show off your own.

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There are people that are not influenced nor moved by wealth. They prefer a modest and average lifestyle to that of a wealthy and luxurious one.
But living a modest and average lifestyle doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy quality goods and services. Everyone likes and appreciates quality goods and a high level of service and would go for it whenever possible.
Here people's interest takes priority. I have seen that even a normal family people use good and high quality products. Although they have little money there, they try to use good things. I can never consider it as a luxury because they can buy good products or services for their needs, it is very normal. But if one cannot ensure its proper use after purchasing more than necessary goods then it can be a luxury. I have seen some people in my local area who give priority to quality and there are many who have wealth but can't choose good things.
I agree, why offer people a life that would be terrible just so they could have some money, when we do not tell that to rich people? I have never seen people say big corps like apple or tesla or whatever end up paying a lot more based on their revenue and not their profit (they can hide their profit) but I have seen a lot of people suggest we should stop buying coffee from outside.

Why am I making my coffee at home to profit, when those rich companies are making tens of billions of dollars? They can pay for all our coffee, and we would pay less tax, and that way we can afford it. Stop looking at the few luxury stuff in regular people's life, and start looking at people who does space travel just for fun and no improvement at all.

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I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

If it is in your mind just like you have explained it, it is not luxurious lifestyle.  If you purchased Mac laptop at a very expensive amount and you have a very important need for that laptop and it is going to be of very important help in your job or academic work, then you can not conclude it is luxurious lifestyle. Luxurious lifestyle encompasses the lavish spending lifestyle of an individual, they always spend money on things that are necessary and the things that are not necessary too.

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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
I purchased an expensive Camera and lenses (€2500 total) to start an Youtube fitness chanel. Could I just use an iPhone to start it? Sure, but I love high quality content and always try to deliver my best. There is also a huge competition in my niche and I wanted to start already from high quality instead of upgrading from time to time. I did it and it paid back well, so my luxury camera and lenses were just a necessary tools for me that helped me in my journey.

"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similiar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.

"Luxury" items instead are things which are very expensive and normally bought for "status" reasons. They can marginally add to your comfort but are normally not productivity-related. One could argue that if you work in a five-star-hotel while travelling can increase your productivity because of all its amenities, but usually a "high quality" service like a three/four star hotel will bring you the same benefits.
Macbook is a luxury thing when someone buys it to watch movies and TV series on Netflix and uses it for basic Facebook/Youtube web surfing. I really know many people who bought Macbook just to be cool while $200 HP computer was absolutely more than enough for all of their needs.
If someone buys Macbook for video production, graphics design, audio production and so on, then Macbook is definitely a high quality, necessary tool and not a luxury.

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March 10, 2024, 11:13:56 AM
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There's a big difference between the terms "luxury" and "high quality" for me.
I completely support your idea. Yes, it is true. There is a difference between the terms “luxury” and “high quality.” High quality products never mean that they are luxury things, but rather they are basic needs.

On the other hand, there are many luxurious and expensive things that are actually useless, but rather are for bragging and showing off among the rich.

As for high-quality products that perform their work with great perfection and lead to increased productivity, I prefer to buy them even if they are expensive and I consider them a basic need and not a luxury.

I wouldn't say agree that luxury is a necessity.He actually purchased that item because of the usage,because of how good that item seems or is and productivity of the item as he earlier mentioned.The term luxury shouldn't be the A1 here,because luxury as we all know is something that is flashy,something bought with a whole lot of money,something that you don't really even need for survival.It is connected with fame,ownership and lifestyle influence.

Especially,trying to meet up with societal standards.Luxury is based on the price tag;who can afford it they're not intentional about the quality and value.Luxury brands don't give clients what they really desire;they don't care about having the right features.You bought something expensive,doesn't mean you bought or they just offered you the best quality to that product.With reference to his content,I see him talking about hardwork,secondly,purchasing luxury doesn't mean your hardworking and that shouldn't be an advice.

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I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

So you think that a Mac laptop is luxurious? Are you kidding me?
A truly luxurious laptop is an Alienware gaming laptop. Some of these gaming laptops cost several thousand dollars a piece.
I think that a decent second hand laptop could do the same amount of work as a super expensive high quality laptop, but that's just me.
Some people get motivated by buying some high quality expensive stuff, so this makes them want to earn more money in order to buy more "luxurious stuff". Maybe that's the motivation you are writing about. I just don't have such motivation. I view this mindset as the culmination of the consumerist imperative(the desire to possess more and more goods and resources). You can call it "greed" if you want.

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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high-quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

Yes, I have. The feelings afterward are usually of regret, cause, of course, I should have gone for the cheaper version and I went for the more expensive one, why? Most times the quality difference isn't even much. But that mindset isn't really good, just like you said. So, I started believing in the mindset of spending on yourself, you deserve it and all.. but that mindset doesn't frequently make you penniless. How about we sacrifice now, simplify our expenses, and save so much so we can get all the good things at once, how bout we have this mindset?
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OP has mentioned the term luxury with the MacBook and given a briefing on its usage. I would like to consider using a smartphone to give the briefing. Just a $100 smartphone does almost as much as a $1000 smartphone. Here we'll see the difference in how it performs and the smooth execution. Another thing is that the life of the product is greatly dependent on how well we use it. So, it is all about the person's mind and not about the product. It is true that for some needs we cannot compromise and specific products are necessary, and without that, going for expensive products is kind of wasting money to show off your own.


I have used cheap computers running the Windows operating system and my feeling is that after a period of use they degrade very quickly and cause some unpleasant situations for me. Similarly, if you use a cheap phone, everything is very smooth at first, but after a period of use you will see it start to lag and the device shows clear signs of degradation. But if you switch to using more advanced devices like Macbooks or iPhones, those situations rarely happen.

I have a 2017 macbook, even though I've been using it for a long time, but from the image and sound quality, all operations are still smooth, even a little better than cheap laptops running windows today. So I don't agree with you that their lifespan depends entirely on how we use them, and there is no difference between expensive products and cheap products.

A phone priced at $100 is made of plastic material, scratches easily, breaks easily...while a phone costing $1k is made of titanium material, has 100x zoom capability, and has a longer life battery, good impact resistance...how can you say they are the same?

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March 10, 2024, 04:31:21 PM
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The word luxury seems relative to me. For example, if a person's monthly income is not very high and if he thinks of doing something outside his budget, let's say if he buys a good smartphone beyond his budget, even if he doesn't buy it, his work will be fine. Maybe it's a luxury for him. On the other hand, another person who has a good enough monthly income and has money left over after living his daily life can buy a good smartphone, maybe from Apple, but still it is not a luxury for him. It is a matter of course for him.  And buying something nice when you need it is not a luxury in my opinion, I see it as a good investment because you are going to get a lot of nice things in the future.

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There's this phrase "the more you want to save from buying cheaper things than what you really desire, the more it will cost you". It is a bit like with settling for less; buying a secondhand laptop and car, buying immitation or copied brands for clothes and the likes. Well, if you don't have the financial capacity to do so, then nothing's wrong with it. But if you do then you're still not wrong however quite missing a thing. There's nothing wrong with perhaps buying second hand or used items, just to use it as an example, but most of the time there are flaws which would make you pay more than you're supposed to, than with buying a brand new one. It is not being luxurious but more of being more efficient with your money. If you cannot afford buying a brand new one, then isn't it enough to say that you should save more to afford it? For me, we just often rush things. I don't intend to upset or offend other by saying these things. I just want to say that if you really want something then at least plan for it. Again, it is not being luxurious but more of needing a bigger drive within, to achieve things ( yes applicable to almost everything not only with lifestyle or objects).

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March 10, 2024, 05:31:03 PM
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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

I mean for sure you could easily just buy a cheaper laptop as and you could probably save a lot, for me it's gonna be the better thing to do as long as you buy the capable laptop and even though it was kinda cheap it was still a reputable brand where it's not going to be broken that easily. Its basically just the best way to do it if you really want to say money, but for sure there are still some luxuries that is going to be included in our life, like even if you are going to buy something like a gaming laptop or possible a mac laptop which is going to be much expensive than just the lower variant one it doesnt really mean that it's going to be a huge deal when it comes to needs or wants.

If you're going to buy a laptop just because you just want to, for sure that is going to fall into the category of just your wants, and possibly could just be a waste of money in the end, since you just doesnt want it any more you're not going to use it anymore. But if you're going to buy a laptop because you really going to need it for your work like if you are in an office, or something like doing video editing, 3d modeling, etc. that is for sure going to be a need. In my opinion, it doesn't to matter if the expensive or cheap laptop you're going to get since it is used for your work, it is used to generate income so it is going to be considered as an investment. And you could also use that to increase your generated income as well, for sure if you have some kind of expensive gear you're going to demand more higher pay.

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