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March 08, 2024, 04:53:46 PM
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Correct, but MacBook is better in terms of survivability (battery life), lightweight and smooth experience, it's why Macbook is better for business.
In terms of battery life MacBook is the best but talking about productivity it's really not and I wonder what really mentioned that it helped him in his life?

And we have to accept the fact that we use apple product more of our financial state than it's actual utility even one of my friend who is into business not really an apple ecosystem guy but he have been asked by why are you having Android that forced him to buy an apple just for the sake of avoiding that question.

Have you ever used macbook pro M1, M2, M3? If you've ever used them, I bet you won't find a laptop with better performance than them. Agree that people use Apple products mainly for their luxury rather than for work needs. But it cannot be denied that their expensive products are products of outstanding quality.

I have an iPhone 7 and up to now, other than replacing the battery, I have almost never had to have it repaired, nor have I encountered lag or lag like other old Android phones . Everything still runs smoothly but it's just a bit out of step with society. For me, everything has its price, there will be no cheap product with outstanding quality.

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March 08, 2024, 04:58:41 PM
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"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similiar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.
I don't know where you live, but MacBook is a luxury stuff in third world countries, many people bought it for no reason. In my country there's a group in my country that only for the rich can enter the group. In order to join them, you need at least iPhone 13. Also colleagues in the company where I work only want to be a friend with Apple user, it give pressures to other people to buy it without any reason, just in order to gets excommunicated.

I also live in a third world country and will save to buy a MacBook if it is what I need to be more productive. It is possible that I would make more money that I spent on the laptop if I start putting it in good use. Like d5000 stated there is a clear difference between spending on luxurious products and a high quality one. If I have the option of buying a cheaper phone but I decide to buy an expensive one because of peer pressure or competition, that's luxury. But if I need the expensive phone because it has a feature that I need to perform a profitable task, then it is not luxury but a need. I had a personal experience when the phone I had didn't have enough capacity to install a software I need to to perform a task. Although I had no need for a new phone but I had to raise funds to get a more expensive phone. Some persons might assume that I bought the phone for luxury, meanwhile it was purely for business.

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March 08, 2024, 05:31:47 PM
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Luxury for its own sake is not a bad thing.  But luxuries beyond one's means certainly bring bad things.  Money should always be respected.  And should count.  If your income is 1000$ then you can spend 500$ but if your income is 500$ and if you spend 1000$ it will definitely not bring you anything good.  You can indulge as much as you can afford.  Luxury is not a bad thing It is definitely not bad to do something good for yourself or live a good life or live a life of luxury.  But it should be within your own capacity.  If you live a life of luxury beyond your means, this luxury will lead to your downfall instead of teaching you good things.

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I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.
Anything you spend more on that you are to use to create extra wealth to your account it can not be said to be a luxury. It could be expensive as hell but still not a luxurious expense except for when it's done for entertaining and fun purpose. However it's not a bad behavior to live a luxurious life in as much as you can afford the lifestyle and not faking it.

Many of the most important contacts I have made in all my life are people I met in a luxurious and high quality events/places, these persons has really been of a positive effect to my financial life in terms of connections. It's only in an expensive/high quality environment that we can meet people of high quality to create social economic relationships which can in turn elevate our status too.

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If you want to appear successful in the neighborhood, buy an expensive car. And most likely you wanna work harder as well because you need to show productivity to the public as well. Its a kind of pressure you want to have on you so that you will work harder. If you are not motivated though, just sell the car.
I couldn't say a luxurious car is a necessity however, you could just buy a motorcycle if you want.

I bought a few goats, just to make sure animals are eating the grasses around my house.  I don't even know how to take care of them.

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The concept of luxury has undergone a significant transformation. While it traditionally signified the acquisition of expensive, high-quality goods, a more nuanced understanding is emerging. True luxury, in today's context, transcends mere materialism and emphasizes a holistic approach to well-being. There's no denying the undeniable comfort and satisfaction associated with luxury goods and experiences.  However, responsible consumers are increasingly aware of the financial and environmental implications of unbridled indulgence. The key lies in striking a balance between comfort and sustainability.

Luxury should encompass more than just a high price tag.  The value proposition of a product or experience should be carefully considered. Does it enhance your life in a meaningful way, or is it merely a fleeting indulgence?  Discerning consumers seek experiences that enrich their lives and contribute to their overall well-being. The pursuit of luxury to gain acceptance or project a certain image is ultimately a hollow endeavor.  Meaningful connections are fostered by shared values, genuine interests, and mutual respect.  True luxury lies in cultivating these authentic connections that enrich your life.

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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Trying out to compare into those branded things into those local or low quality then you would really be that able to notice out their difference.It is really just that it would be just that depending on your purchasing power or capability. If you do saw that you could be able to afford such thing without breaking your bank then go for it but if not then it wouldnt really be that bad to be practical and would be buying something
which is lower price compared into what you are trying out to buy. If you are a wealthy person then these things wont really be an issue or problem for you but if you are someone who do earn average
then you would really be needing to be wise for you to be able to make yourself wont go overdropped with your budget. Money budgeting is important because if you do neglect out even this simple thing
could really mess up your life and this is something that you should really be minding or looking for.

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March 08, 2024, 07:59:00 PM
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There is only this sentiment of luxury around people who can't afford it or those who are greedy to themselves that instead of using there hard earn money to satisfy themselves they rather save for the rest of there life.

You making yourself comfortable is really not luxury for me though it's expensive which gives it the attributes of luxury but on a personal level I don't consider helping myself luxury.

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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

I do wonder what type of work you're doing that requires an Apple, which could not be done on another possibly cheaper device. However Apple have built up a huge ecosystem to surround their hardware and interactivity between many devices can actually be a saving in the long run, but does leave you captured by one company who may change the rules later on. That being said, it leads back to the often quoted saying that being poor is expensive - buying a slightly more expensive pair of working boots that last many years, as opposed to buying new shoes every year because they wear out quicker is another example. However most people would buy luxury versions of items if money was no issue and are simply living within their budgets.

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March 08, 2024, 08:32:29 PM
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Lol! You are considering a MAC laptop as a luxury item! That's odd! My windows gaming laptop is way more expensive than a Macbook.

That was my first thought too. Apple makes popular gadgets for the masses that aren't high quality but rather overpriced. Just look at their phones. You can get the same specs for half the price, but it won't have an apple logo on the back that you can show off.
It was the same with apple headphones when they started making them white so that people could see what brand you use.
I also have a PC that I could easily trade for a workstation made by Apple, but it would be far worse, slower and with less options for upgrade.
People don't get what high quality hardware is. It's not that expensive piece of plastic with a fancy logo.

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March 08, 2024, 08:55:48 PM
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Ego and self-validity that feel like they want to be recognized is one of the factors in this because for now we prioritize prestige over the value of what we buy in the end.

Actually, things like this are not a problem for those who really want it and with adequate financial conditions but in the end when we live in a middle to lower economic situation we should be wiser in paying attention to this because after all, in my opinion this is quite important to realize from the start because the sense of prestige that is owned will actually be an opening for us who will get more losses in the end.

For some reasons and some situations, it is not wrong to occasionally look for a better price as long as the quality is worth it, but sometimes for now we always impose a will that actually creates new problems for ourselves and needs to be considered in this case it would be better if we are aware of our qualifications because in the end this becomes important so that we do not impose our will too much just because of prestige alone.

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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

I think all things which were luxury will become commonplace in the near-future. Look at automobiles, healthcare, vacations, certain foods and so on... Everything is only getting better and more accessible to ordinary people. Such people would have been called peasants, had they lived in the past. But compared to the peasants from those times, people live like kings and queens now.

That is a good thing. And also the reason why I do not buy the newest stuff but rather wait 2-3 years and then buy it at half price or lower.

Thats the way things have always been. I like to think it is a sign that humanity is always growing into something better than before.

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"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.
Youa re correct.  High quality simply implies that the materials, the crafting, and performance  of the product, item or service are perfect but not necessarily expensive.

Luxury equals high quality but high quality doesn't equal luxury

In the case of a luxury brand, I would say things like the tesla cybertruck is a luxury.

However, an item can go from high quality to luxury which in the sense of exclusivity. For example, Starlink has become a luxury item because its hardware price increased by  112% in my country due to inflation. Only a few people will be able to afford it now.

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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

Luxury is good but it's dependent on your income because if you don't have a good income and you are seeking for a luxurious lifestyle, it would really affect your income though there are still people that make a huge income or generates huge income but doesn't like living a luxury life so it also depends on individual wants because what entices you may not entice the next person.
Some persons doesn't just like living a luxury life because they feel it consumes lots of money and very expensive to maintain so instead of getting involved in what you can't continue to maintain, it's better not to opt in at all.

Saying luxury could make one more productive I don't actually understand your perspective but to me I feel luxury sucks alot and there is no productivity in it because you always gonna spend more oftenly despite if you also earn huge.

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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
The point is that I know, to be productive you don't have to use expensive tools, because there are still many alternatives that can be used with the same features but are cheap according to our abilities. This is what I have been applying all this time, it doesn't need to be expensive, the important thing is that the use is the same, buy something within your financial capabilities, if you can't afford it then don't force it.

In physics, force is directly proportional to pressure. People who have a lot of lifestyle automatically experience depression. Humans generally do not understand what desires are and what needs are. Use your money wisely, buy things according to your needs, don't just keep your prestige / so that other people think you can afford it even though in fact you don't, life is always full of falsehoods.
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You know, there are people that look at certain things and they just conclude that because it's luxurious and expensive, it's not there thing at all. I once had that kind of mindset but with time I have learned that luxury could even make you more productive.

There are environment you will be exposed to and things you will use that will totally revamp your idea on wealth and aid you to work more effectively. As long as the luxurious stuff you're purchasing aids you to become more productive and comfortable, nothing should be too expensive to be bought for your comfort.

I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?
Luxury and wanting to get high quality things for yourself, it could be clothes, electronics, cars etc all depends on your income. you cannot be desiring high quality things without you having the money. Everybody would want to live a luxurious life if they can afford it, but that is not how nature works, however "all things bright and beautiful, all creatures Great and small the Lord God made them all". all fingers are not equal so you do things according to how much you can afford them, luxury is necessary but everybody cannot afford it, that is nature for you.

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I've purchased a Mac laptop that's way expensive than the average laptops I could easily get but because I needed what will work well for the kind of job I do, I had to buy it and I must say that the fulfillment out ways the negative thought of not to purchasing it.

That's one factor that lead me to always go for high quality and luxurious stuff after that moment.

Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it? What was your inexperience like after that?

I am a very considerate person when I want to buy an item, I will estimate the profit and loss in buying the item, even when I buy a smartphone I will compare the brand and also the resale price over if one day I need money.
I will not buy an item just because of my passionate desire for that item, I will be patient and think more stably because when I only buy an item based on desire, there is a big possibility that in the future I will lose money, not be lucky.



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March 08, 2024, 10:23:38 PM
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well it is true that sometimes we also need to invest in our own comfort and convenience some people buy cheap versions of a product and then get disappointed that the product does not compare to those of other bands. when these cheap products break, it will just cost you more compared to if had just bought the expensive one that could last you longer.

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March 08, 2024, 10:28:16 PM
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"High quality" items, like in your case your computer, are useful things which can enhance your productivity, like you write. I would still put Mac computers not in the "luxury" category, but just in the case of computers, there can be also cheaper items with similar high-quality hardware which increase your productivity by a similar margin.
Youa re correct.  High quality simply implies that the materials, the crafting, and performance  of the product, item or service are perfect but not necessarily expensive.

For me I considered them as a investment as well, no offense, but I'm a Macbook user and so I bought sometime, years ago 2018 from my crypto earnings. And up to know I'm still using it to make trades and still making money from my crypto activities. So I took it as a investment when I bought it back then and still now making me money.

However, an item can go from high quality to luxury which in the sense of exclusivity. For example, Starlink has become a luxury item because its hardware price increased by  112% in my country due to inflation. Only a few people will be able to afford it now.

Damn that was expensive, but maybe if the service is really good then it will be a good one to used. It is also very expensive here but I'm still weighing for now if I will get it or not. And as other might have said, we need to be very careful of the things we buy. Luxury items for me is just for show-off to others that you can buy this luxury things, but can they give you value?
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March 08, 2024, 10:48:53 PM
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Have you bought something that people feel is rather too expensive and that you could have purchased a lower version of it?
People can only assume that they know what you want, but you alone know what is best for you. I have experienced this and my feeling before after this was that I feel almost bad because they me feel like I got something for too much of an expensive price it gives me a feeling like I was cheated. I moved on from feeling like this to understanding that some of this people who act as though they would have gotten something cheaper, may actually not be able to get it cheaper, it is just bluff. Buy good things, so you will not have to buy them again.

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