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Website: www.qtmholdings.com (http://www.qtmholdings.com)
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The Quantum Team is founded by:
@AltcoinAce (Altcoin Analyst) www.twitter.com/AltcoinAce (http://www.twitter.com/AltcoinAce)
@Kazonomics (Technical Analyst) www.twitter.com/kazonomics (http://www.twitter.com/kazonomics)
@Onemanatatime (Fundamental Analyst) www.twitter.com/onemanatatime (http://www.twitter.com/onemanatatime)
@TheCryptoEdge (Fluttercoin Developer) www.twitter.com/TheCryptoEdge (http://www.twitter.com/TheCryptoEdge)

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no escrow and you want 250 btc from the community... LOL

We actually did address this in the ANN, it is now bolded so you can't miss it.

+1 from Ace

Lovely ANN... now... what does this coin actually have to offer?  ???

I'm interested in this too. You got quite good team, but what is the idea behind QTM?

Yup

I got a question

IPO Wave One

60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.

this seems like a huge premine where the DEVs hold 80% of it


reason? clarification?


After the recent scams, and more recently the UAE coin scam, better be very very careful guys, especially if there is no Escrow etc..

so:
first wave of 20% = 250btc
second wave assuming 20% and at LEAST 250btc
40% = ~500btc
60% = devs 750+btc at current value

WAT

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-42zeUQixANw/U1U568tA_sI/AAAAAAAALJQ/_4xDg8gn5xM/s1600/confetti.gif

Alvin, it looks like after a lot of trading you finally discovered where the big money is. Massive IPO that is the answer.

What a scam.  Why don't you just dump all pretense and ask for people to send you money.

so this is kinda like a country coin where a large portion of the coins are 'airdropped' to the country.  Except the four owners/devs are the country - and they get 60% of the coins.  HUGE wallet padding for the devs - congrats to your (growing) BTC stash if you can pull this off.

yeah way more profitable than trading and mining, look at Emirates coin, nice IPO page website and wallet, 22BTC in a week in the scammer's pocket

+1

so uhh, you kinda need network support for this, how is this handled if 100% pre-mine?

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/jamieb811/ipo_thing_zps6df80987.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/jamieb811/media/ipo_thing_zps6df80987.jpg.html)

And I quote "the rising number of unreliable IPOs and an abundance of irresponsible developers have dampened the confidence of the crypto community."



So another one is what is needed to restore confidence?


You couldn't make it up...

You guys have good reps, ill check it out.

All the haters will be buying in the 2nd wave when its twice as much.

it's not only about rep, but this comment says it all :

ok, lets say this 'isn't a scam' and you wont run off with anyone's BTC (i think there's a fair chance you wont).  

After the coin launches and 2 IPOs are successful, lets say value goes up for whatever reason (like you didn't run off with the BTC right away). if i put in 1btc and the price goes 50%, I'm now at 1.5 btc. Great deal for me, right?  But the dev's 'stock' also rises 50% in value.  After 2 IPOs at 250 btc, the total market cap iwould be 1250 BTC of which the devs own 750 BTC (60%). each dev at 25% - or 187.5 BTC. so when I make .5 BTC, each dev 'makes' 93.75 BTC... whoa. Seems legit. wait, why should I invest again?  math wasn't my strong point in skool.

what is the IPO BTC going to used to be for?  blow and hookers?

not to mention all the trading education profits. but lord knows some people on here need that. more easy money for you.  maybe you should have just gone 100% in this route...
 

0% stake, whats the incentive to hold the coin?

Can you please increase the max cap for IPO contribution? 250 is too little to invest.  ;D ;D ;D

We understand where you are coming from with the 100% premine, and with us as the owners keeping a large share of the QTM available, and I'll just clarify some points here. To give a better perspective, I'll share with you how this idea first came about.

The original plan of Quantum Holdings was to set up a trading hedge fund of sorts, where users send us Bitcoins and we trade them and pay out profits on a monthly basis. However, we ran into some legal complications with this plan, and decided to launch Quantum Holdings with the same idea, but presented in the coin. In essence, Quantum (QTM) is more than just a coin, and acts as shares of our fund, Quantum Holdings.

With this in mind, we are selling 20% of the shares of Quantum Holdings in this first wave.

All trading profits and other revenue streams from Quantum Holdings will be reinvested into Quantum Holdings to benefit all shareholders of QTM.

 
FAIL !!
 
Emiratecoin is the new benchmark for scams. This scan is really amateurish.

 I should know, I put down 0.0075 myself ;)

You of course being the primary shareholder with 60% of the QTM.  With no guarantee that you won't sell off to take profits at every opportunity.  What a fucking joke.  I would feel bad for the people who's money you already stole, (assuming that the 80 some odd BTC you have pledged is legit and not just part of the scam) except anyone that can't see through a scam this obvious deserves to lose it.

The QTM team will be staking its share of Quantum to facilitate transactions on the network. We plan to offer future incentive to users who choose to support the QTM network.



There will not be PoS interest in holding Quantum. However, we have plans to pay out profits generated by the various QTM revenue streams to investors. This will be done through future dividends and Quantum price support.

realy would like to get into that , completely trust the devs unfortunately i decided to put all crypto i have into zed until before may 9 , so i will probably get in the second wave :)

The difference is that in a hedge fund, the managers of the fund don't get 60% off the top FOR FREE. They get a small percentage for management but they don't take a huge chunk of the equity that other people have invested. In this case, you're getting all of the IPO funds and 60% of the net asset value right up front for doing precisely nothing. LOL

Since you effectively own the IPO funds once they are raised, you should get a very small % of the coins issued as a fee. Only when you actually perform should you be further rewarded. 60% off the top is outright theft and shows that you have no idea what you're doing. If you're at all honest, you'll go back to the drawing board.

That said, the history of Bitcoin "investments" being what it is, I'm sure you'll do very well for yourselves.

The QTM team will be staking its share of Quantum to facilitate transactions on the network. We plan to offer future incentive to those who choose to support it. There will not be PoS interest for holding Quantum. However, we have plans to pay out profits generated by the various QTM revenue streams to investors. This will be done through future dividends and Quantum price support.

Please take my bitcoin and restore confidenceto crypto currency. ;D ;D ;D ;D

scam !

Well, why dump into profits right away when they will be collecting over 125BTC each (OMGWTFBTCBBQ!!1) by the end of summer.... It's almost worth them to keep it growing while they slowly sell the 60% (when we believe the price is slowly climbing) until the last wolong (dump) effort, shut off network support, and retire.

I'm not going to say it's a scam because all of the people involved do seem somewhat reputable in my experience, but in that case it just seems very poorly thought out.  Way to many questions unanswered in that announcement that you should have seen coming. You say it's going to pay dividends etc, but don't say how, or when.  I get that the 250 btc is being invested, but even that should be explained way more.  How is anyone supposed to know the risks in investing when they don't even know how you're investing the money? Day trading? Altcoins? Long term stuff? All of the above? All stuff that should have been answered when you first made the announcement let alone when you're already accepting money.  I hope it turns out well and maybe it'll be a good investment later, but seems crazy to put money into this with the amount of information you've given, regardless of whether or not it's a scam.

ok and once more all the trolls with newbie accounts yelling scam go to bed kids,

Great idea, with wise team, im already in

Plus this guys AltcoinAce , Kazonomics ,Onemanatatime are very legit traders with good reputation , i dont know them personally but they have the gutts to show their selfs , and not hide behind a coin BCT account,
If you dont get the concept of that, prolly you dont day trading or you do but on a great loss , cant everybody win win

And how many of you screaming scam & other stuff you dont take their advice ? (from twitter)
Well this question goes to trolls with not empty BTC wallet..

I'm not saying it's a scam, but there's a lot of unanswered questions.  It doesn't seem unreasonable for people to expect all their questions answered when people are putting up over $100,000 for the first ipo.

dont count this education profits,Knowladge is expesinve , you can pay to learn or you can invest and learn
also there are many Pumpers around , where they demand a fee to join them from 0.1 - 1BTC  maybe more, plus they demand you to drop 1-5Btc at every pump, and at the end of the day you will round up with a loss or for a silly profit some times risk/amount of profit

Spend some time find the team on IRC shoot your question, you cant just have all info on a plate , i know Onemanatatime have a #crystalbal but i bet he dont use it to guess ppl questions  ;)

I can vouch for the integrity of QTM's members.

And no mention what if the cap is not reached. I expected a few words about refund or something, but no, nothing. I'm not one of those dumbasses who screams "scams" on every single thread, but seriously people, have some respect for other people's money, explain important things before they're asked.

Scam or no scam intended.  This is a joke.  You'd think if these people have the solid reputations everyone is talking about, that they would offer something decent to the community.

Here is a brief overview of some of the topics we will be teaching in our technical/fundamental analysis Quantum sessions: http://alunacrypto.blogspot.com/2014/05/technical-analysis-altcoins-bitcoin-trading-market-structure-cycle-manipulation.html

Your arguments are juvenile and ridiculous. They may be nice guys, but they have no public investing track record. At the very least they should run a public portfolio for a while so people have an objective way to judge their skill. It wasn't too long ago that onemanatatime posted the following on Twitter, which seems to now have been deleted:


In what world does someone who lost half of their portfolio suddenly decide they should be managing other people's money?

All of that aside, even if they were the best investors in the history of crypto, the setup of this investment is so far outside of what is reasonable that it could only appeal to those with no investing experience or common sense. It's an affront to everyone with a working brain.

Well I didn't delete that. And I lost my portfolio because my accounts got hacked.

Why do you guys deserve 60%?

someone slowly drained your portfolio over 1.5 mo?

when i invest 1btc and the value of my share increases 50% (0.5btc), each of your value increases by 93 btc (93 btc x 4 total)

Do you think that is fair to your investors?

what percentage of the profits you make by trading the IPO money will go back to the community of ipo investors as dividends? what percent will be reinvested into QTM coins? what percent will the 4 masterminds keep for themselves?   none of this is explained.  what the heck is the plan here?

you QandA page says you are not market manipulators.

 but you'll own 60% of QTM and will 'stabilize' the price.

 is this not market manipulation?

alt coins is about manipulation. so just be honest about this one... ok.  it is fine.

60% of profits split by 4 masterminds. 15% each.


40% of profits split by <pool of ipo investors> say the pool is 50. each person gets a massive 0.8% of the profits.


Which side you you rather be on?

will there be any log of the trades the masterminds make? or will it all be secret? this isn't explained. what's the plan guys?

Thanks for bringing up all these valid and highly relevant points.

Because the markets are ever-evolving, we are not going to state right now that X% will be attributed to Y activity. Doing so will only serve to limit our possible actions. And as you know, 1h in crypto feels like 24h in real life; things move so fast you never know what's going to happen 1 month from now.

With that in mind, I will personally say that 100% of IPO funds received will be reinvested into Quantum Holdings, to conduct our various activities as we deem fit for the market at a certain time. QTM acts as a share for Quantum Holdings, and we will not be selling our share of QTM on the market.

Apart from profiting from an increase in the QTM/BTC price, investors may also receive profits in the form of dividends in the future. We will withhold details and exact numbers until then.




Regarding transparency, as much as we want to share how we conduct operations to clear up all the air during this IPO period, we can't reveal much details now. Revealing exactly how we operate will be detrimental to the success of Quantum Holdings. Keep in mind that cryptocurrency trading constitutes but one part of Quantum Holdings, and we will seek to innovate and develop new revenue streams under the Quantum brand as we progress.

More will be released whenever appropriate. We would rather announce when we are prepared and already have something to show for, instead of giving you promises now that may take weeks/months to materialize.

We may release limited post-trade information and market round-ups, but our exact trade information will not be revealed. We will seek to provide transparency to the best of our abilities, and more transparency can be shown when we have more infrastructure build for QTM.

In the meantime, I hope you can understand our reason for not revealing every single detail. If you would like to discuss this further, looks for us in #QTM on Altcoinweb @ https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.altcoinweb.com:6667/#qtm (https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.altcoinweb.com:6667/#qtm) or PM/Tweet me directly.

Unfortunately, wave 1 will be capped at 250 BTC so as to maintain a fair price and distribution to investors.




The use of QTM and details of any future IPO waves will be conducted at our full discretion.

This may be 1 month from now, or 6 months from now, or done in other ways. On the other hand, you will be able to buy some on the open market when QTM hits exchanges soon after launch.

Good luck with ZED!

We will use the IPO funds predominantly in margin trading BTC/LTC as well as trading Altcoins, and also to support QTM price. The scope of our trading may expand in the future to other markets.

Dividends will be paid out at our full discretion, and the details and method will be announced at the appropriate time.

Your risk of investing in the IPO will be limited to the price of the QTM you receive. If you invest in this wave, and QTM price stays above 0.000125 when we hit an exchange, you can choose to limit your risk and sell off your shares then.

All these dividends etc are bonuses.

You want people to invest 250 BTC, with a market cap of 1250 BTC, when they actually own 50 BTC (20% of the fund actual amount of BTC)?

In order to return the investors investments you need to gain 1,000 BTC (to a sum of 1,250 BTC).  

That's alot of BTC to gain!!

The investors invest 250 BTC, and in fact own 250 BTC worth of QTM i.e. 2,000,000 QTM. Investors can choose to sell it on the open market for the prevailing prices. Part of the IPO funds received will be used to buy back QTM if you so choose to sell it below the IPO price.

Your risk/reward as an investor lies solely in the price of QTM. Like I said, the "fund" and anything else comes as a bonus.

Public investing track record ?? you joking right ?
 Maybe give you a plate ,a spoon & feed you!
 so you need a mentor/prophet that is going to tell buy that today, sell that tommorow , win win - happy end ! wow you are BTC rich now ?
I dont know if they are the best investors in history, but they dont trolling or looking to 'eat' you alive! its been a while im watching this guys, and i can say at 80% im walking away with a nice profit,

Plus the golden rule is dont invest more than you afford to lose,

P.S. They dont asking your home or your whole BTC wallet, keep calm

For the love of everything important, DO NOT send these "people" any money/bitcoins.

They are nothing but a bunch of scammers with no plan, except of course take your bitcoins and try to multiply them for purely their own gain.

2 of the "people" who started this scam have already admitted that they do not see anything wrong with ripping off their twitter followers by completely unnecessary overcharging them 1000% on other altcoins.

Now how can you trust these "people" with your bitcoins/money if they ADMITTED that they don't see anything wrong with screwing their followers, who are by the way their primary target for this scam?!?

They are not a "wise team" nor "good people" nor "good investors" nor "good traders" nor have "good reputation", they are nothing of the sort, there is absolutely nothing positive about this bunch, nothing whatsoever.

Their only interest is in getting rich themselves and they will do it over the backs of everybody who is foolish enough to give them bitcoins/money.

Please, don't be foolish.

Isn't the biggest reason for most people to get into crypto because they don't want to be ripped off anymore by the current powers that be? Don't substitute those criminals with this bunch, as they are not one tiny bit better.

For proof read below one of the statements which one of the co-founder posted on twitter.


See also https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461160477083840512 and https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461156677275115520

Here one of the founders of this scam is trying to explain that there is nothing wrong with telling his followers to buy something from a source with a higher price, while he is well aware that there is a cheaper options. Meaning he does NOT have the best interest of his followers in mind, far from it, he doesn't even understand that concept.

This all started with the fact that that same "person" tried to sell MaidSafeCoins for a price with 1000% markup! Yes, you read that correct, 1000% markup. No a few % for the "inconvenience" of having to spend 1 minute trading, no, a whopping 1000%. For no reason whatsoever.

Here is that quote:
See https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461136953086599168

Here he is trying to mislead everybody to think that it is no longer possible to buy maidsafecoins and that his website still has some available. In reality it is still very much possible to buy maidsafecoins on the official exchange for a price of one-tenth of what this scammer is asking!

Again, "he" doesn't see anything wrong with, to him it is plain business as usual, try to profit as much as possible, doesn't matter if newbies getting ripped off as he doesn't have a conscious and doesn't even understand what it means.


Another quote from the same "person", where again he doesn't see anything wrong with overcharging his followers. To "him" that doesn't matter, all that matters is that his profit will be bigger. That is it. Nothing else. No ethics, no interest in the well-being of his followers, just pure and simple greed.

One of the other founders of this scam, Ace ‏@AltcoinAce, also doesn't see anything wrong about doing business this way. See also https://twitter.com/AltcoinAce/status/461144516720726017

Now how on earth can anybody trust these "people" with their own bitcoins/money when these same "people" have ADMITTED they don't see any problem in ripping other people off purely for their own gain?

Again, please do not send them anything, please.

nice cooking dude, but sorry your activity smells trollish :'(

Trading is all about dumping most of the times (not taste good), and why the hell if i can sell you high and you are fool enough to buy!
so that makes me a scam  ? or it makes you a fool ??

*edit you should try use BOLD instead of caps, studies says they are working better in the back of the brain ! lol

Good luck with that IPO idea, mates!

Of course, you should know, as all you are doing is implanting false information into people's head and for that you need to know all the tricks, exactly the same as US government is doing and has been doing for a very long, which as everybody with a brain knows, is having disastrous consequences for the world, the same as your IPO will have disastrous consequences for anyone who is deceived by you.

And yet again you ADMIT that screwing people over is OK...

Truly unbelievable...

And indeed you are correct, if anybody is still "investing" in your IPO they are the biggest fools alive, but that doesn't take away the fact that you are a scam and that I am doing my best to protect people from the likes of you, as unlike you, I actually care more about my fellow people than making a few bucks.

i wonder who are those idiots that paid 33.5 btc for this shit  ??? :o :P

leave US gov outside of this you can end up brainwashed by them :D

Dude trading is all about screwing each other, you cant see if you are dumping on a stranger or on fellow friend, trading it isnt a win win , ride the bubbles and hope the right time,
If you are a miner/dumper its ok you cant get that point of view, but we are on internet !

Big note
Im not part of the QTM team, i have no benefits from them or anything simular , i just followed this guys on twitter , reading their opinions,doing my research, then investing IF, and they are the most legit crypto-guys around atm
And yes i have invest in QTM, if i get scammed ill send you the amount i have invested in them, if not ill dump hard on you!  8)

Do you use twitter ? whats your favs ?

well im one of those idiots you are looking for

and another idiot
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137)  who give his dollars in order to buy a smartass  some pizzas

Idiot:gave dollars to buy pizza and get paid with 010011000011000100 money
Smartass:gave 00100110001010101 money and get pizzas

actually meant zet but still the same point ^^

this is a big risk investment, hope that is not a scam.

In addition to the way a little alternative IPO, but there are other highlights of the currency it?

And conveniently leave out the fact that I do not own any Maidsafe of Mastercoins and have nothing to gain from advertising that website.

https://twitter.com/onemanatatime/status/461169919632359424

You guys here at BTCtalk love to give these guys shit, eh? Twisting words everywhere!

I've been trading along side them with tips from them for months.

They know there stuff and probably the MOST trustworthy of any of these coins that have come out lately.

I just wished they explained what they are doing better so this shitstorm of a thread didn't happen.

They wanted to start a fund, but due to regulations, they cannot. So they are creating something as close to a fund as they can.

If you have a question, you have their PERSONAL twitter, IRC, this thread, and emails. Get with the program.

Some people here seem to have such little experience with the real world.  Let me summarize for you:

- The founders are (according to general opinion) well known and respected members of the community.  They are traders and coin devs and write a lot of articles on altcoins and so on.  They've been around for a long time and understand how things work.

- They want to create a company (investment fund) and they have some general ideas of what activities they would do to increase the value of the company (fund).

This happens all the time in the real world.  Once someone has become a well-known and respected member of an industry, someone who has held executive positions in successful companies in that industry, they can get investment money just based on who they are.  Look at Jack Dorsey and Evan Williams and Biz Stone.  They created Xanga, Blogger, and Odeo.  They had a reputation as being successful at coming up with new ideas and turning them into profitable companies.  When they had some vague idea about creating a new type of communication platform investors threw money at them.  The idea didn't matter, they were investing in the people not the idea.  They had investors lining up before they wrote a single line of code.  The idea of course was Twitter.  And since that has been successful Williams and Dorsey have gotten investment for other companies just on their reputation and past success.

Or to put it another way, if Justin Timberlake wanted to start a record label but didn't have any artists to sign yet would you invest?  If the senior trader at Goldman Sachs left to start a hedge fund but didn't know what his trading strategy was going to be would you invest?

Decide for yourself if the QTM founders are people you respect and trust and think can put together a profitable altcoin fund.  But to call it a scam because they don't have a 100% road map of exactly what they're going to do is silly.  You're investing in the people not the idea.

Ok, I believe it is not a scam, but I don't see high ROI neither.

Every dog has his day.

Well at least there should be less risk that they run away with it than the scam dev of Emiratescoin  :P

ok.
lets say that at this moment its not a complete scam
ok.
but from whole team only kazanomics is trustworthy/his TA realy usefull and qualified. Aaaaand QTM is not fully his idea. Another two is like 50/50. sometimes they guess. sometimes not.+ Ace is only 22 years old / Alvin tweets not so long ago that he lost 50% of portfolio
ok.
forget that hedge is one of the most risky types of business and  few years ago lot of them crashes
ok.
let's say that you invested 1btc. now you have QTM for 0.2btc value of REAL capitalization (devs has 80% of premine and doesnt risk anything).
ok
devs will not give any reports on transactions/wouldnt make public audit. so at the end of months you can get 0.1 profit and wouldnt able to check honesty of that. (and of course you would receive only 1/5 of profit)
ok.
To enter any cryptomarkets they will have engage a lot of people. or paid for listing from IPOs money
ok.
let's imagine that traders forgot about cryptorush/AC and lots of another recent scams and will invest like crazy.

but tell me what will you do, if  something gone wrong and you lost all. Unfriend them from twitter?


trading is not for emotions or faith. only facts and analysis.
at this moments devs do not know the answers to many questions (like for second wave ipo, for example)

IF it is true that you had nothing to gain from that promotion whatsoever, a big IF, but lets say that is true, then it leaves 2 options open.

1) You did not know that that website was overcharging people 1000%. In this case you clearly don't know the market and this per definition makes you a bad trader and therefore cannot be trusted to trade with other peoples money. In this case your company would have bought a 1000% overpriced coin, which is of course very bad for investors.

2) You were aware of the 1000% overcharging, but for some reason decided to keep this information to yourself and let everybody else buy that 1000% overpriced coin. This scenario then proofs that you don't care about anybodies money and are knowingly trying to make people spend more than necessary. A very unlikely scenario, but again it proofs that you do not have the best interest of your investors in mind.

I am beginning to doubt if you understand anything about a running a company with an IPO, but it should mean that all your actions are benefiting the shareholders and so far every action and word has proofed that you don't care about anybody else besides yourself.

It does not matter which scenario is the correct one as all of them proof that you cannot be trusted to trade with somebody else's money. It really is as simple as that.

Let`s see how this will perform. Do not invest more than you can spare to loose. With this being said it will be interesting to see how these people will perform in a group and why did they put their reputation at stake. Best of luck to everybody.

Another scam on the way:

60% will be divided and held between the QTM Team.
20% will be held for future developments.
20% will be released in the first wave of IPO.

they did not want to say they will hold 80% :))

Exactly what I said straight in the beginning

 :D :D :D

No, I'm not joking. I got the idea from http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/v2/investment_club/trader/159/onemanatatime - unfortunately that system doesn't take into account the size of the investment and therefore doesn't give an accurate ROI on the total portfolio.

And thanks, but I don't need a mentor, I've been at this for quite a while. Long enough to have seen dozens of noobs and nobodies come along with half assed schemes that play off of the dreams of wealth in the credulous and the stupid. Shitty investments are just that, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that fact.

I don't care if you invest, in fact, I hope you do. You have to pay for your education one way or another.

LOL, you're a babe in the woods.

IPO Wave 1 is over in less than 24 hours!

Where are the bitcoin addresses? What is the IPO address with 33 BTC? What is the escrow address?

Not having those two addresses makes this seem even scammier.

Why so quiet....real investors not in here?

Wave 1 pool currently at 68.3 BTC.

all in QTM
these guys are awesome

I really wish coinbase wasn't so slow or I would be buying in :p

1 post and only on this thread? I smell Shill

+1

real investors know not to invest in these kind of shady deals where the devs are holding 80% of the coins and want 250btc on first phase

+1. 80% of the profits go to the devs. i'm not supporting that. these guys aren't going to run away with the money, they're just taking an 80% cut. they have no obligation to give anything back to the 'investor'. i do think they'll make money. but for the most part the money they make will go into their own wallets. they say they will give dividends, but don't outline how they will do it - so contractually they don't have to pay out anything.

edit: sorry to be so negative, but its pretty obvious these guys just want to pad their own wallets - just like everyone else in alt coin world. not much different here - just more cleverly designed.

Seems like they also wont answer me. This is a good preview of the support investors will be getting. 

What's different between wave one and wave two?

another ripple

Wave 2 will most likely open at a higher evaluation and it is undecided when wave 2 will occur.

So at least 60% pre-mine for dev? Are you kidding me? And you call this coin without any innovations a long-term investment? Wow, you guys are really good at making money! People who will lose money because of this coin deserve it. They are too greedy. And they will become the member of this Ponzi game without doubt. As for newbies without posts but only appear in this thread, go fuck yourself!

IPO my ass, from  I will not participate any IPO from now on, you all are a liar

IPO Wave 1 is closed! Thanks to those who support QTM!

So you sold 70 out of 250 btc worth of shares this time, and decided it should be worth more the second go around?  What happened to unsold shares anyways? Destroyed? Sell em later? Some more shares in your pockets?

No need to look at the world so negatively there mate. Fortunately, not everyone bears ill will against humanity.

the humanity is evil ! $$'s is satan child , & cryptos are belong to satan,gov,scams, give me your bitcoins and leave this place
do a little research by your own, dont do it inside BCT cause its full of trolls

these guys are decent & legit !
start using twiter , google & forums

I received my QTM from IPO wave 1, will see how things develop. Use your better judgement and invest a sum that you can afford to loose. Just wanted to leave a feedback that until now everything went as planned and the team delivered, will see what we have instored for the future.

Now it's over a 93% premine.  LOL.

IPO Wave 1 is over in less than 24 hours!

Why so quiet....real investors not in here?

go away newbie troll , back to your cave


and you missed the chance to invest ?? if yes you are a lazy dude and too damn slow for crypto
just wait the QTM 2nd wave IF you are not trolling , but i doubt

Or invest to the copy cat of QTM , because i bet there will be one,

I invested what I can afford to loose like I do all IPOs. I invest in people not coins. If they are buying a coin they created with all profits its a no brainer where the price of QTM is going. Unless the government shills troll so hard everyone dumps it, at that point a lot of people will buy until it pushes the price back to the IPO price. These guys actually want to work in the crypto Industry and are pioneers like everyone, no one really knows where things will develop So many things are possible its unbelievable and surreal. Starting a new crypto venture is like venturing into space, you don't know where your going, what you'll find, or if you'll die. but this is what were doing, so ignore the government shills and buy into every IPO in crypto if you believe in the philosophies. After all if you bought the BTC "IPO" (lol) with 5 bucks and held you would never work again.   

I even invest in possible scams because I don't really care anymore, money means nothing any more and the sooner you realize that the sooner humanity can move forward (well it doesn't mean the same thing it use to, your assets are your money now real value is money, were just having to relearn what value actually is these days) enjoy the birth of the decentralized stock market, you get to invest in actual people instead of manipulated prices. I have made money from most of the scams in crypto due to getting out immediately after I realized any profit. Its all about not being greedier than the greedy scammers and understanding market psychology. Though these guys are actually trying something new.

If you dont like it, waste your time on facebook looking at cat videos, you would probably find more spiritual enlightenment than trolling. Also, if your a paid troll, go get a real job or start a business, your looking more and more like complete morons as time goes on and will realize your time would be better spent building your own business idea instead of scrutinizing other peoples plans. I will admit a QTM could have been approached differently and avoided a lot of FUD, but meh, who really cares. Were all just winging it in life. And if you deny that fact, your probably a complete air head. Mistakes are part of progress, failures are part of success and QTM is well... the first of many successes/failures we will see, so STFU and enjoy your life cause shits getting real.

That being said, These guys do have real reputation on the line and are genuine helpers and educators. If I were you I would be grateful that genuine people are finally stepping up to the plate even if things didn't go as planned. If you do lose money I would hope you didn't invest your rent money. Thats the only scenario I can see that you would be angry or scared.

If your emotional about trading your probably not doing it right.

Oh yea, QTM is a scam!!! Did the price dip? damn, oh well. I was hoping to get in cheap. :P jk

+1

actually it's same as simcoin which scame all investor ,
no public wallet address , all date made by himself , if dev said you can get 1%,you do ,if dev said ,you can get 0.0001%, you sitll have to accept .

Well, this might be long-term investment opportunity. But I don't believe you can have high return.

Are you on twitter?  Because I want to make sure I unfollow you.

I invite you to un flollow, just calling it like it is, markets are manipulated on even the best of projects. its just basic market psychology. If what I said offended you you really need to be aware of what your spending your time learning. The world is changing faster than anyone can imagine, being offended will only hold you back. The world of unregulated markets is no place for the easily offended or naieve to the fact that trading involves a small group profiting from a large group. survival of the fittest. If your not profiting from the scammers, your being milked.

In the case of QTM, it will probably be a success for one simple fact, the value of a "coin" is in the value of the individual integrity of the people involved in any given project. This may have been a conflict producing IPO. Though I will say that the people starting QTM have exemplified a significant amount of integrity. That my friends is a rare commodity and one of the founding characteristics of value creation.
The value of an asset such as "programmable currency" is directly connected with the integrity of an individual. This is something to be celebrated. We have finally merged value within individuals with the global economy. Great things are happening, pay attention your experiencing history in the making.

I guess UNO you have to use your mind and find it out by your self ! Damn you have you it some times...eventually !

Well said sir. Very very well said.

 without  a wallet  ,how to ipo ?

   

IPO is over, you can go and buy at Bittrex exchange now
https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-QTM (https://bittrex.com/Market/?MarketName=BTC-QTM)

QTM Is live on Bittrex as of 7 hours ago!

I hear QTM is a scam and @altcoinace has been ripping people off for some time now. http://pastebin.com/5xq6Jk4A. Sad times...

hahah and we were all called idiots telling the people here it was a scam..

You were one of the few smart one's.

What differentiates Quantum from any other pos coin? I like how the original post listed the team involved and no anonymous devs and phantom team members like other alts do.. and it looks like a great credible team, but is there a reason this community seems inactive?

The community has an independent forum, google hangouts chat and also the IRC channel , probably that is why bitcointalk is not the main form of contact and exchanging ideas, but their forum is from what I can see

Updates:

Wave 1 has successfully concluded. QTM is also Live on Bittrex.

We now have over 70 registered members in the Quantum State, with an engaging & synergistic community on Google Hangouts.
Everyone in the Quantum State now also has access to the World's most secure private cryptocurrency forum (with DDOS protection, and 2FA enabled), with over 300 other members & early adopters.

We have completed 2 weeks of Quantum Flux as of today with over 20 participants. Feel free to ask them about their experience in the Flux.

To those still having problems with either of the above, please email us at qtm.holdings@gmail.com so that we can fix it asap for you.

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To find out more, drop us an email at qtm.holdings@gmail.com or tweet any of the founding members.

Oh I missed this ipo so I can't join now? :'(

Seriously man, WoW, I feel bad for you, But you know what? If I were you I would only blame myself !

Who listens to people - I learned one rule in my life - THERE IS NO EASY MONEY.

I hope you put it all behind and learned the lesson (When you lose - Don't lose the lesson).

I also have a twitter account - NO I don't recommend you to buy anything I say - NO I don't charge money or anything - Not anon or anything and I don't have a close group
But I have about 12 years trading experience and thought maybe you can follow me and learn a thing or two about trading coins and trading in general, Good luck. You can follow me @kobi514

Strange to see QTM on trex at 22k, uh?

Who would have thought that a scam could make you money :trollface:

BTW, what I've learned this month in flux is really above anything I've ever read on the internet.

And I was so convinced by the team that I also bought another stash on the exchange.

Looking forward to seeing more updates and the results of the buyback...

QTM Buy programs now running from Flux and Quantum.  Thank you all for your patience more to come.

Running fantastically :)

With the big announcement and serious accusations that you have made on twitter, how is it that NONE of this is posted or discussed here at all?

Please address this and also post proof.  You are not only affecting those that have invested into QTM but those that have with fluttercoin as well.

I can't believe how irresponsible your 'trusted' team is being in handling this matter.  At least have the decency to show up in the fluttercoin thread and provide sufficient proof instead of posting FUD that has caused the coin to crash 50% of it's value in one day.  The fluttercoin community are the indirect victims in this matter having suffered from your incompetence.  Even if your team actually turns out to actually be innocent, your lack of communication with all involved directly (QTMcoin holders) or indirectly (fluttercoin holders) shows just how much you care about anyone other than yourselves.

STAND UP AND COME FORWARD.  BOTH COMMUNITIES DESERVE ANSWERS.

I tweeted ALvin @onemanatatime to ask him to answers here - he's twitting 20 times a day, I guess he have time to have a look at his own coin's thread :P.

That being said - we are investigating all this and I suggest everyone here to be very careful going on.  Be ethic, be honest.  We are working hard for #FLT to succeed - and those accusations are jail stuff.

By the way, is it me or your QTM website is an empty shell ?!

It's bound to happen, if you look at the sourcecode it has my twitter username in it. I made the site for them but I have nothing to do with this on finanical level. The css of the link hasn't been updated because I tried to reach out but they said that they were busy so I couldn't update it.

We have communicated this issue with all the QTM members on Google Hangouts, and also tweeted it to the public.

Announcement: https://twitter.com/QTMHoldings/status/484735989035065344

All QTM Holders, please read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

More information with screenshots will be available shortly.

Look like fabricating screenshot takes some time, eh.

When you go ahead to make such accusations, you should have proof to come with it. Not make the accusations, then release the "proof" a day later.

It's interesting how @thekidcoin was never announced to be involved in this project before and now he is conveniently responsible for the big dump.

Wowsa! Another hidden block tale, just like with Asiacoin.

So glad I got out of this hot mess long ago...

There is no mess, anyone with QTM will not be affected in anyway other than the fact they now have undergo an exchange process. The QTM Team is taking on all losses.

Actually even with this "mess"  the price of qtm was almost always above the ipo. And not by 1 or 2 Satoshi, but by 5-10k. Imagine how far would have gotten without this sell pressure caused by the hidden block.

After reading this thread, I wonder what kind of retard can fall for the obvious scam that is QTM.

QTM2 source code & wallets are ready!

QTM2 Wallets
Linux (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eaum7df5h0lynuv/quantum-qt.zip)
Windows (https://www.dropbox.com/s/eyat4rtrq3esuqt/quantum-qt2-win.zip)
Mac (https://www.dropbox.com/s/rm1kz66iwzbf9zo/QTM2-macosx.dmg)
Source Code (https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sgxjxjhnkhxaw0/qtm20.zip)


Please send QTM1 first before downloading the new wallet, or else make sure to change the old QTM wallet .dat file name. Because QTM2 wallet will replace old files.


Please read the announcement here for instructions on how to exchange your QTM to QTM2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/142JCS_HA5n8jrpqjsn0GQlecimdLKajyQh27mgLuIu0/edit?usp=sharing

Let me expose your stupidity for a moment little guy.

1) there is/was no hidden block
2) there can only be 1000 blocks @ 10K each - hence 10 million coins, hence any "hidden block" would be nullified as again - there can only be 1000 mined blocks PoW
3) main.h is correct - 10,000,000 * COIN is the max money
4) your taling about things that you don't understand - util.h is telling us the value for display of the coin - hence instead of doing something like 100 * 1000000 to convert an int64 as 100 instead you multiply 100 * COIN (which has a value of 1000000) hence max QTM IS SUPPOSED TO BE 10000000000000 expressed as int64 DUMBASS

You started all this BS based on stupidity and non-understanding of the code - you actually had them abandon QTM and move to QTM2???

Also you are reading the transactions wrong and you don't understand how POS transactions are formatted, and you obviously have no idea how to read as the block you are saying had 10,010,000 QTM in it has 10K in it an likely a test of 10 QTM while I was mining it.

WTF would be the point of mining all these coins? The market could never sustain it.

And finally - if one runs getinfo in the old QTM client - there is LESS THAN 10 million coins because of transaction fees that needed to be paid to ensure large transactions I sent to the QTM team were not delayed - I had many issues with this client and blew the original wallet up and likely lost a modest ammount of coins in the process (thousands)

This though speaks volumes as to the QTM team if you guys didn't see this was incorrect what this guy was saying.

DO NOT make accusations based on stupidy - PLEASE. 

You are likely the cause of the FLT threats etc sent to me so likely you are also responsible for me quiting FLT.

Job well done Sherlock!

Aint it the truth? 

I am pretty sure it takes a different kind of retard to fall for QTM.
Just saying.

P.s. And what is your agenda or are you just a hater? You seam to support neither QTM nor FLT.