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I was shocked to see that there is so much hate towards me in the forums. This is not a joke but an honest attempt to ask what is most wrong with me in your opinion. Then I can answer if it's something I'm also ashamed about. Or defend the thing if I think it is right and good despite the criticism. No self-moderation. No fanbois. I may not be able to answer all but try to pick some questions that represent a larger audience. I try to not be a prick in this thread.

"You're so full of yourself" criticism would sum up nicely most of the hate, I believe :) You know, illusions of grandeur and stuff like that. You're levitating yourself above us, poor peasants :) Naturally, some peasants don't like that :)

Honest feedback here buddy.

If you go back to your Altcoin Observer thread and read the red part, you may get an indication as to why people may view you as a nazi asshole douchebag turd.



 

I think you may have hurt some peoples feelings with the red writing...  :D  ;D

Some random bull ?

The only law rpietila seems to have broken - is the evil Jante law, created by jealous females.

rpietila have another thread on Bitcointalk called I for one love to read it, because it brings out more well thought out post by traders, speculators and analysts.
The same has been the case for rpietila Altcoin Observer, usually there is good discussion going.

To be honest, I don't see rpietila deleting that much either. And hey, why are people writing in his threads if they don't enjoy it? It is your option to read, with or without moderation. There is a mirror of Bitcointalk where you can read deleted posts in self moderated threads, so this is a non existing problem.

Don't take the trolls personal, they are jealous of your wealth and nothing else.

Trying to be serious in a forum full of trolls is your biggest mistake. Don't take everything here seriously.

I tried to read it as an outsider, a person who comes to the thread first time. It sounded nazist and was hard to understand why.

I took it away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Millionaire_Next_Door) I read this book soon after it was published 18 years ago. It is a real eye opener regarding some of the myths and assumptions regarding wealth. After seeing some of the pictures in this thread, it all came back to me. PAW that becomes UAW? Enough said.

If I don't like you (which I would say I don't like some of your posts or your moderating style, as I really don't know you) it is because my interest in your posts went from mild appreciation for your experience, to complete skepticism about what your motives actually are.

In short, I don't trust what you say as I think your ego and your fortune have cost you your objectivity.

Oh my.  Never saw that post.  Not the best way to introduce yourself that's for sure.  

Are you any of the things you posted in the title of this thread?  I don't know and I really don't care.  What does any of that have to do with me?  That's the way I look at it.

I will say one thing.  If there are people that think you are any of those things you've likely just convinced them further.

If you're so well off why do you waste your time with this?  Don't have anything more rewarding to do?  No young ladies to chase?  Or do you like playing king over a kingdom of peasants?  If I had the wealth that you supposedly have I certainly wouldn't be spending so much time with this if any at all.  I guess some people just need their ego's stroked.  

Take it as a compliment that people attack you on the forums.

I do. It is quite funny to me when it is done to me.

You shouldn't discount the possibility that you are becoming a target for over enthusiastic XMR supporters that intentionally or unintentionally troll or over criticize on other threads in the hope to improve the price of XMR.

A few reasons that come to mind:

1: You're one of the rare persons I know that reveal his true identity on such a forum.

2: You expose yourself a lot in multiple threads with your name written all over it, including this one. You literally paint a target on your face.

3: You're rich. (That's annoying)

4: You're often right about things. (That's annoying)

5: You can be a little arrogant at times. (Super-combo)

6: Pictures of yourself in ridiculous situations. (Gift for the trolls).

7: You make self-moderated threads. (Moderation = NAZI on every forum, trolls will always use that card)

8: You support Monero, one of the most attacked altcoin currently, and present yourself as a whale and very active supporter.

9: You talk a lot in troll-boxes.

10: You often answer to trolls, and seriously.


It seems almost too easy.

11: As a Monero supporter, you have selective vision as to why Monero is attacked. You cannot see the relentless trolling, FUD and bile by Monero 'supporters' toward any other 'lesser' coin. Or the arrogance of Monero supporters who are sure that only Bitcoin and Monero are the worthy coins and that every other coin is a shitcoin. The anti Monero trolling is a reaction to this. For someone who professes to be a 'crypto guru' this gap in your vision is illuminating to others.

this place is not bored academics and/or bored rich mans hang around, this is the very wild wild west/hell of cryptoszenery.

points for disrespect to you are:

you are destroying scammers business

you are very harsh to some serious developments, for reasons that are most time well founded but to little explained.

I thank you a lot for the first 50 pages of the altcoin observer, which was by far the highest quality thread in this part of the forum.

what I encourage you to do is to is to write quality comments as seen on the first pages of the altcoin observer and monero economics thread. if you reason why you come to your conclusions, you will get a lot more respect. and you are probably able to give eye openers why some of the stuff people are talking here is completely delusional.

I'm almost indifferent to you personality and for some reasons far beyond this thread I do not think that all of your methodology of analysis is appropriate; but that said you add a lot of value to discussions by your conclusions if they are well funded and comprehensible.

+1

^ that

but don't change mate

welcome to the club mate, don't take it personally .

i honestly thought your account had been hacked ha.

I think you are decent guy, (maybe not so much on the investments )

but other than that I think you seem like a up and up guy.

love the pics !

: D

* oh if you dump all your BTC (as its obviously going where i stated) you would be silly to not invest in reserve Crypto,i think you know by now i don't hold any monopoly on Quark someone could buy as much a i own with a few BTC.

i'm cost price average in

/end your own personal Quark shill.

what i'm really trying to say here is i just don't think you have the "buy in" on the Monero deal that's all, so say you go bang and swap out didn't you just at best hold onto your wealth? which hey is better than most will do i suppose?

This is a bitcoin forum, not a "Why do some people hate me?" forum.

There is no reason to make a thread about yourself when this is a cryptocurrency forum.  Oh wait.............it's all about attention isn't it?

This thread should be deleted as SPAM.

bclcjunkie brown nosing for a job in the palace

Mostly bytecoin sockpuppets, I think.

I do have grounds to believe that some people feel convicted when I talk about "scammers", "scamdevs", "scamcoins" are hurt. Then these people lash out on me often through sockpuppets. But even here, it is not necessary that I am right. I come from a traditional background where much less deviation from truth and sound business practice is labeled as "scamming" as it might be in the altcoinland.

I only came to altcoinland in late May. I don't mean I want to start to accept, support, or do scam, but it's important for me to understand if something - let's say forging the timestamps of BCN and releasing the CN code with obvious backdoors - is generally regarded as "scam" or is it just me judging wrongly?

Being jealous is not terrorism. I would not mix it with this.

Regardless of what coin who supports I'm tired of seeing legitimate questions or opinions being brushed aside with an accusation of what coin you do/don't support.

The term "fud" and "shill" - while I completely understand the concept.  It is getting more and more difficult to have any negative opinions and be taken seriously by anyone.

This was a weird post to make my point.  Who gives a shit about NXT?

A.  Are you a brown noser? Yep.
B.  Is it a problem? Nope.
C.  The answer. There is nothing relevant here.

Now moderator deletes my posts, whatever. Even mods are involved in this circle jerk.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

Just a suggestion, rpietila - don't get down with the trolls. ;)
They will suck precious time and energy out of you (and everyone), if allowed.

Do your thing, carry on but maybe outside, boys...
To off topic or ??? but not in alternative currencies...

Answer to OP:

Because you're a proven liar and you use your smooth pseudointellectualism to consistently shill for Monero, day and night, through highs and lows, etc.

No matter what the thousands of words you've written on this forum actually say their meaning is quickly surmised by myself and the other intelligent people on this form as,

BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO
BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO
BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO BUY MONERO

I simply don't like people who try to distort the feelings and thoughts of others for some selfish end goal, usually through repeating a nonstop battery of lies and half-truths that are more designed to make people feel like you are their buddy than they are to transmit actual knowledge.

You simply have no ability to present information in an objective manner, everything you say is highly suspect since it is unilaterally pro-Monero, there's no reason to pay attention to anything you have to say.

Frankly, you're making the world a worse off place by trying to get people to believe in falsehoods all the time, but at least you're not as bad as some of the devs themselves.

This is inaccurate. The anti-Monero trolling started almost from day one when there were hardly any Monero supporters, maybe none at all, and rpietila was not yet involved. As already noted most of it started with BCN sockpuppets (and some DRK trolls). Imitators likely followed, since trolling XMR become something of a sport.

Regarding business practices in the alt world, they are indeed scammy as all fuck. Even the BCN scam wouldn't really violate "community standards." The only thing that made it different from 99.9% of the alts was some interesting technology that was worth adopting into a non-scam project (Monero).

So I agree that a lot of the hate is the backlash against wading into a cesspool of scammers, holding them up to reasonable standards of honesty, fair dealing, and non-scam-friendly business structures, and seeing that virtually all badly fail such a test. Rpietila is to be commended for not slipping into the faulty logic of "they can't be scammers" and lowering his standards. They can be, and they are.

Even more than usual that kind of hate is a complement.

I could not find a way to connect with the writer of this. All I need to say that her coming to the forum coincided with my conversion to Monero supporter. Previously I did receive hatespeech where everything was the same, except Bitcoin substituted for Monero.

smooth pseudointellectualism

I like that. One to remember.

Can I use it royalty free for a t-shirt? Actually, make that a polo shirt.

Don't worry, I disliked Monero before you hopped on the bandwagon. My speech is not hatespeech so much as a summary of observations. You can't connect with the writer of all that because you know he is right and you don't want to admit it.

But maybe you'll come around one day, just like you did for your whole "Monero is less volatile than Bitcoin" BS you were propagating for months.

I asked you once your history, how did you became rich? specifically, step by step, no bullshit. I argued how there is always a fundamental factor of big luck involved that trumps actual skills, when it comes to high sudden gains. I also argued how we have no free will, so people isn't really responsible for their actions (in this case, being rich or poor). You only percieve the ilusion of taking decisions, when you arent.

On a side note, you own a fucking castle  8)

PS: I don't have anything against you, I just like to talk with rich people, to study how they think, and I have never meet actual legit wealthy people besides you and a couple other guys (fund babbies) but these were not really interesting to talk to.

Slightly off topic.....



I know it's hard, and you have made a point to be selective in collective brandishing, but DRK is not full of Monero trolls, since back in the day...

I'm not sure what you are saying. There were DRK supporters or shill who were FUDing and trolling monero very early on (before it was possible for it to be in response to anything). For whatever reason most of that stopped along the way. The BCN shills still make an appearance from time to time.

I have been in both coins and the "FUD" started in DRK thread by user "pandher" who had just bought a bunch of XMR (BMR at that time) in OTC thread. I also think that BMR started with a high premium because of the market exposure of DRK by that time and the perceived importance of a non transparent blockchain. The FUD continued with more users who were discovering CryptoNote and BMR.

DRK's 3000+ pages are smoke and mirror. At least 2800 pages of it is pure garbage and unreadable FUD from various groups/campaigns/agendas at different time periods and I am being generous about the 200 pages here honestly. I have stopped reading it for a while now but still sneak in from time to time.

Reporter: How does it feel to be voted the most hated man in America, Randolph?
Rainbow Randolph: In a country full of Neanderthals, I wear the fuckin' badge of honor.

Is this some type of reverse-troll thread?  ???

I believe "circle jerk" is the phrase you're looking for

Because as a person of great wealth and potentially influence, you do not give the appearances of retaining an open-mind about all possible altcoin developments. Instead it appears you've anointed Monero, which appears to some as if you are some King or Hitler. This requires that you think you are omniscient. Such hubris annoys people who want to see all possible developments come to fruition (for a myriad of reasons, some are scammy and some maybe not).

You create a thread entitled "Rpietila's Altcoin Observer" which despite the erroneous thread title is mostly just a shrill fest for Monero.

If you believe that people who are telling you that your haters are just jealous or scammers, then you've really fallen into the abyss of groupthink and confirmation bias. The world is not the oyster of your small group of 400 ethics majors (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=771925.msg8744506#msg8744506). If you want to play in currency, you've got to interopt in the real world as it is.

Most of your theories have ended up entirely incorrect. As far as I know, your one major accomplishment relevant to crypto-currency was buying Bitcoin < $10. Thus the perception of your hubris outstrips your performance record.

Being a little bit more humble and open-minded about your capabilities and pronouncements, and throwing the love around more to more developments will put you back in good standing in the community.

If you don't want the community to weigh in your fairness, then don't broadcast your influence. You can be a private investor or a public figure, or both. If both, learn how to play the political game correctly.

How many times I told you I hate politics, but it seems you are determined to go the political route. You made this decision, nobody forced it upon you.

Edit: if you want to talk about scams, look at Monero's emission curve which was designed to give most of the coins to your group of early investors (so you are not a scammer  ??? ):

You do realize that feeling logically justified in your shilling of a product does not differentiate yourself from the low life con man.

I have been around the most unethical sales people in the world and one trait that was shared by almost all of them is that while they were doing their shilling of scammy product, they all truly believed when they offering a better deal than anything else available. It was apparent that with their lives on the line their brains aligned all facts to favor their position, regardless of their veracity.

You shilled Bitcoin because you were so heavily invested, and now you are shilling Monero. It is highly unlikely that your view of Monero and Bitcoin "facts" are not skewed by your position. Reading your posts, it is a certainty.

It is just as likely that his position is skewed by his view of the facts.

That stupid thread was the one where the BCN shills stuffed the ballot to keep with the fast curve, most likely to maximize their potential to mine with their non-deopmitized miner, ideally for a long time (since instamining is impossible).

Unfortunately for them it didn't work out because: 1) others optimized the miner privately too (dga and probably others), 2) the community optimized the public miner within a month or so, and 3) the community developed GPU miners.

The curve is about twice as fast as Bitcoin. I wanted it slower but I'm not sure twice as fast as Bitcoin is bad, given much faster adoption now. For the first two years or so, very few people even knew Bitcoin existed and there was no cryptocoin community. The situation is very different now.

It doesn't really matter though, pretty much no matter what we say you will continue bashing Monero, hyping your vapor coin, worshiping Armstrong, creating new accounts, and begging for money. So carry on.

I don't think I've ever witnessed a human being with such an inflated ego. You really need to ask why people criticize you here? I think we both know that you know the answer to that. But just in case:

For a long time, you've made outrageous claims about the future value of bitcoin, always speaking in absolutes. Then when you're completely wrong -- as usual -- you brush it off and move on to a new shitcoin to pump.

The difference between you and other posters is that you present yourself as a wealthy professional investor with all your stories about your castle and your avatar (a picture of yourself in a suit and tie). I don't know if you genuinely believe your ridiculous predictions or if it's your strategy to sell your stash to dumb money, but you've caused a lot of impressionable investors to lose a lot money by telling them that they can be just like you if they buy and hold no matter what. Some of them still believe you for some sad, twisted reason.

You're rich and if bitcoin fails, I know you have a stop loss and worst case scenario, you can only afford one bottle of Dom Perignon with your dinner each night instead of two.

But these impressionable people who you manipulated are trying to feed their families. You convinced them it was a sure thing, and now they'll probably become bag holders and lose a substantial amount of their savings. Not only that, but you're a 9/11 "truther" which alone is enough to make you a loser.

There is only one curve that is correct for maximizing user (not investor) adoption: perpetual debasement. Bad money drives good money out of circulation. Reality check!

And per Peter R's chart, user adoption is what drives the market cap, not investor adoption. The market price is a weighing machine of the user (not investment) adoption value, i.e. the whales don't influence the price at all (over the long-term). All they can do is make the mistake of thinking they do and doubling-down on their mistakes when the adoption value and thus price is not increasing fast enough.


Until you get this point, you will be scratching your head wondering why Monero's price is not growing fast.


Bwahaha. ROFLMAO.

Your true colors are now shining through. You bear false witness against your fellow human, which in my book makes you a charlatan.

You are now a proven liar. The only people I've been begging are the gold dealers who withheld my money (but this has since been rectified). I owned 18,000oz of silver in 2008. I was minting silver rounds and 10oz bars and supplying Risto's silver business in Europe. If you disagree, you quote me where I have begged for money. You will not find one such quote. I was gifted 2 BTC by Risto unexpectedly. And he will earn much more from that 2 BTC than he will ever earn on his Monero investment. I never asked him for money. Also in the past I was also generous or flexible in my dealings with Risto when he had a failed deal with a counter party.

So you are escalating this eh? It won't end well for you and Monero. The worse thing you can do is motivate me.

I have not aggressively criticized Monero in the past. I was fair. But you guys can dish out the verbal lashings on everyone else's coin (e.g. BBR, DRK, NXT, etc) but you can't stomach it when someone tells you that your coin has egregious weaknesses also. Your little shitcoin is going nowhere. Observe and learn.


Btw, Risto when you talk about how you've been persecuted by the authorities in Finland, realize you are not a USA citizen as I am.


Sweden, New Zealand, and USA all have a high crime rate:

http://www.insideprison.com/crime-statistics-by-country.asp

But the difference is that Sweden rehabilitates and helps, whereas the USA brutalizes and punishes:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/01/why-sweden-closing-prisons

Look at the photos on this web page below, you will be so sickened when you compare the USA prison to the Finland prison:

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

Number of people in prison:

2,125,424 - USA (that is 2.1 million)
1,674,862 - China (and China's population is 4X larger)
  113,000 - Philippines
   68,598 - France
   44,547 - Chile
   31,379 - Australia
    8,302 - New Zealand
    5,760 - Sweden

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/02/13/why-do-they-hate-us-so-much/

The USA's conviction rate is nearly 99%. Even Adolf Hitler had a
conviction rate of about 90% at his notorious People’s Court under Roland Freisler (pictured in the center) who was the most bloodthirsty of all the head judges to rule that court. Even Wikpedia writes:

“The number of death sentences rose sharply under Freisler’s stewardship. Approximately 90% of all proceedings ended with sentences of death or life imprisonment, the sentences frequently having been determined before the trial. Between 1942 and 1945, more than 5,000 death sentences were handed out, and of these, 2,600 through the court’s First Senate, which Freisler headed. Thus, Freisler alone was responsible, in his three years on the court, for as many death sentences as all other senate sessions of the court together in the entire time the court existed, between 1934 and 1945.”

The conviction rate in the United States is nearly 99% and has beaten every historical statistic of the worse tyrants throughout every century except those who did not even pretend to give a trial. And Obama has signed into law the right to indefinitely imprison American Citizens without trial, lawyers, or any rights whatsoever. Now this Justice Department leak shows he also maintains it is legal to kill American without a trial as well – take them away! This will enable the government to reach their goal – 100% with no exceptions! The question is WHY do these people hate our civil liberties so much? They are like a two-year old who refuses to share a toy and prefers to break it instead. They know they are collapsing. They have ruined the finances of the state. Instead of trying to reform, they prefer to retain power and destroy everything that made an American once proud to be an American. They will not survive. This is as unsustainable as Communism and the fall from grace will be very nasty.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/01/25/the-untouchables-how-the-obama-administration-protected-wall-street-from-prosecutions/

The one thing that surprised me running around the globe on this last trip was how much the United States has fallen from grace. The legal system is seen as the most corrupt in the world and that is the important essential cornerstone of commerce. When Margaret Thatcher spoke at our conference in 1997, she was asked which country would she invest in – Russia or China? Her response was “neither” because they did not respect the rule or law at that time. The rule of law is the foundation of everything. If courts change transcripts and rule only for government as the US conviction rate is now virtually 99%, then capital is not safe and cannot invest for there is no way to vindicate your rights be they to property, human, or
constitutional.


http://armstrongeconomics.com/2014/06/09/numerous-false-terrorist-charges-torture-to-extract-confessions/

One must question the government’s involvement in that one as well. Higazy explained that he had falsely confessed because the polygraph operator had threatened his family. They ALWAYS threaten your family – that is how they keep their 99% conviction rate. Women are threatened with taking their children and putting them up for adoption.

Federal Judge Jed S. Rakoff ordered the U.S. Attorney’s Office to investigate how the FBI came to extract a false confession from Mr. Higazy. The government’s first response was to tell Judge Rakoff to take a hike. They bluntly told him he had no authority to order the government to investigate how it extracted an obvious false confession from an innocent kid.

It takes a long time to tell, and to be useful for the reader, requires a mindset of appreciation (open mind).

Until so far, I haven't felt that giving this information out for free in the forums (any more than what I do already in my posting, often enough to be an object of hate) is the priority or even a smart thing.

By the way I did make a list of at least 10 bulletpoints just when we talked about the matter in my Wall Observer. It is there, you could find it and link it here for reference that I have been quite open about it.

Please link. Is this true???? holy shizzzz

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732169.0

Well, that is an interesting thread.

No one has called out rpietila for the 'raghead' comment, so I will. Add racist to the list of faults.  

You see how little support PC actually has. :o It is one of the many repression techniques forced on us, completely unfounded in logic and not supported by conscience.

(Yes I understand you were being sarcastic, but never miss an opportunity to make a point ;) )

It's easy to see cultural insensitivity as a non-problem (and complaints about it as illogical) if you're lucky enough to be in a cultural group that isn't typically on the receiving end of such insensitivity.  Failing to perceive the problem doesn't make the problem go away, though.

roy

In a free world, people have the liberty to think whatever they want. The proliferation of the concept of "racism" is a 1984-esque thoughtcrime.

Every act of rasistic violence, etc., shall be judged as any act of non-rasistic violence, according to the law.

But when people's thoughts start to be judged, then the freedom of thought is no more.

(I don't want to sound harsh, but the indoctrination of thoughtcrime is a sneaky one, and repelling it is a priority.)

Odd part to me about this is those preaching tolerance are very effectively using this strategy to unify all beliefs into their own by making it a moral / social crime to believe anything but what they believe.  Originally "tolerance" was the idea of allowing everyone to co-exist without persecution.

Marriage should be between man and woman = hating gays = killing gays = nazi germany.  It's all equated to each other.

I have no problem with gays getting married.  I do have a problem with the faulty pigeonholing / aggregating thought sins as equal to action sins.

Hey that's their plan! Ignorance is knowledge.

I can pledge 1000 XMR if you catch me infringing someone's life, liberty or property. Because I believe in voluntary interaction.

How I would like that everyone did the same to me! (or at least gave 1000 XMR per count.. :P)


 

Peter R's chart doesn't show that because: 1. it doesn't show causality, and 2. there is no way to know whether the transactions and/or addresses in use on the Bitcoin network are users or investors. A huge amount of Bitcoin activity is investors, probably a majority. Really, who "uses" Bitcoin? Who used it last November-December when his chart showed both the metrics and price skyrocketing? A better interpretation of his chart is that investors drive market cap!

its fun to see more people saying good things about you, and the majority have bad reputation
first time i saw you was on poloniex when monero go to 0033, it was where i bought mine.. you put there you observation thread for here and since then i start to use bitcointalk every day... i never use this much before..
what i can say... you have alot of followers, and alot of posts, and with alot of followers the haters comes to your threads too, but i am almost certain that you have more lovers...
you sound also like an iphone fan boy talking about monero... people dont like it... but people are not forced to read your threads... so keep on :)

edit:
also i would like to talk to talk with you too, maybe you should show on irc too :)

Oh well.  I had wanted to visit Malla.  If you're in favour of racism (or at least against opposing it) I guess I'll have to assume I might not be welcome.

I had hoped you intended Malla to be a broad Bitcoin retreat, rather than just a white person's Bitcion retreat.  I guess I was wrong.

roy

In a free world, people have the right to call you a cunt and shun your ass for being a cunt. How liberating.

Can't you see how ridiculous that assertion is?? If not, please read the helpful text by another poster:


My thinking goes like this:

- Everybody has freedom of thought
- Therefore I have freedom of thought
- Someone is gay
- I think it is not good to be gay because the Bible says so and I am not in a position to change it
- But he also has freedom of thought to think it is OK
- I may retain my opinion because my freedom of thought, and he his, and everything is just fine, it's childish to fight over opinions

And in your case:

- Everybody has freedom of thought
- Therefore I have freedom of thought
- Someone is black
- I think it is OK to be black there is nothing in the Bible saying that people shouldn't be black
- everything is just fine

General:

If you infringe people's freedom of thought, you are on a heinous path, much worse than that some people might childishly despise others based on their opinions. Even discussing about the subject from an analytical standpoint (like here) is a thoughtcrime and punishable by at least fines in both where I live and you live. I know people who have been made to pay for their freedom of opinion. This is not a fantasy anymore. If the condition of your coming to Malla is that I or anyone may not freely think whatever our conscience allows to think, then perhaps you should exercise your freedom to not associate with me.

I hope we are on the same side.

I think you're missing the point.  It is rational not to want to spend time and money visiting someone who will despise them.

Oh course, you are free, in some sense, to dislike any social group you choose to dislike.  On the other hand, once you start asserting such a freedom it is rational for any visitor to want to determine whether they happen to fall into a category you dislike, for the simple reason that it would significantly detract from their visit.


Oh my, and a homophobe too.

What does homophobe even mean? If you think homosexuals are creepy and nasty, does that make you a homophobe?

If I call homosexuals homos, am I am homophobe?

I think calling someone a homophobe is bigoted, and in nasty-denial.

I have no idea what point you're trying to make.  I'm sure we all know what the word means.

I wish I could put into words all that I know about mr. Risto Pietila. But it's too much. I think you must have been around for a few years and have seen his entrance in the community and the ensuing drama to really get it. A lot of this history is deleted from the forum and may be lost forever (anything from 300k USD predictions and having unlimited money to mental hospital is part of this chronicle). I will instead make it short and say this: I believe Risto is an honest man, a man of high integrity. If you make a deal with Risto, he will follow though and expect you to do the same. From what I understand he is a voluntarist, the most righteous philosophy. Has Risto ever broken the non-aggression principle? Not that I know. This is all that matters. There is nothing nazi about Risto.

Also, Risto has been, and continues to be, one of the most entertaining forum users. His "showing off" and the madness/drama that ensues is quite simply hilarious. I love it, and hope risto won't change.

Risto is master in the art of trolling and I'm sure he gets some good laughs out of you people. I certainly do. But Risto also cracks me up. I don't see what the hate is all about. Risto posted a freaking picture of himself in front of a car and a hotel where he owned neither, he is living the supernode lifestyle and has UNLIMITED money, how can you NOT love this guy? https://i.imgur.com/JiYOga7.jpg  ;D

Your thinking is certainly wrong. Freedom of thought is not a desirable state. Uncaused thoughts, coming from nowhere would be a recipe for disaster. Your thoughts are a bundle of psycholgical states caused by the external world and your history. They are determined, or at least largely determined (the latter might be claimed by a compatabilist)

But anyway, you contradict yourself by saying you have freedom of thought and then quoting the bible as master of all thoughts.

Austere Nordic Protestantism Never goes away.

The Bible said a lot of shit, so grab it all, and live your life according to all its contradictions. You will then truly have "freedom of thought". or better put: Psychological chaos.

lol

In answer to your questions:

1. Yes
2. Yes (given 1 and your knowledge of how the word is used by people that believe 1)


In answer to your statement:

3. That makes no sense, your argument effectively rules out the possibility of the most heinous crimes committed against gay people ever being described as caused by homophobia.

You should get a job as a judge, in Alabama, 60 years ago.

So wait, not agreeing with a lifestyle is equatable to fearing it?

Holy Moly... And you actually expect people to continue taking you seriously after this point???

Do you realize that the Bible is chock full of utterly ridiculous notions and stories that cannot be backed up by any amount of reason or logic?

Surrendering your mental sovereignty to a 2000 year old book is not exactly an encouraging sign of intelligence in my opinion. Especially when it comes to the issue of homosexuality. Only cavemen are against gay marriage these days. Most of the rest of the world has already realized it simply doesn't fucking matter, because IT DOESN'T.

I'm answering only because it sounds like you are honestly looking for opinions, so I'll offer mine and hope it helps with the answer(s) you are looking for.

I was familiar with some of your posts in the other sub-forums, so when I saw your post in this alt forum, I was interested in what you had to say.  Given the average post in here, I got the 'I want to keep this thread relatively clean of the normal crap' intent in your initial post, but I did feel the comment that you made that had something to do with not just deleting posts but having the contacts and ability to get people banned did sound like an asshole.

That being said, there are a handful of people on this forum that, when I see their posts, I usually read them.  You're on that list for me.  I'm no one of any note around here, so that may not mean much, but then again, maybe it does.  I don't care if you're rich or not, but respect you if you are and made your money legitimately.  More power to you for that.  I've been mostly away from the forums this summer, so can't really speak on anything more specific that may have grown out of that thread since first few pages.

Just about all of the impressive people I've met in my life spend very little time trying to be impressive or trying to impress people.  They just are who they are, and that's impressive enough.  My suggestion would be simply this:  Let your knowledge and experience speak for themselves and I'll still look forward to reading what you have to say.  I suspect there are others here who would agree.

Just my 2 cents.

How stupid are you? Known face, known location, known to have lucrative wallet.dat on your PC, and/or paper wallets. Someone who doesn't like you might pay you a visit and 'ask' for a donation. Are you on a death wish? Why are you provoking people with bigoted red neck attitudes?

No amount of sophistication will make sucking on a smelly chocolate pole less nasty.

When it is all said and done you either support cleaning smelly poles or you don't.

It only takes one person to know your location and act on it.

I call BS on this. I am never endorsing gay marriage because there are plenty of ways to give gay couples their rights without endorsing their union as wholesome to society.

Gays don't want marriage because it gives them rights they don't have otherwise (as you can solve that problem easily with legislation), they want gay marriage because they want society to endorse their behavior and their loving union.

i don't hate you, i just disagree with everything you say pretty much. your opinions are slanted and your agenda is clear. pretty much sums it up for me, and i assume 99.9% of people who "hate you"

I don't know much about you rpietila, but apparently you're either the epitome of honor or evil incarnate. And I don't know whether you're trolling or not, but at the point where people are hating on you for your religion, the thread definitely isn't going to go anywhere productive.

People are petty and jealous. Being serious in this 'environment' mean you earn the ire of small timers.

That is the rpietila that I admire.


Now if you could just learn the math (simulated annealing is nature's only known generalized optimization method) of why top-down organization is "infringing someone's life, liberty or property" then we'd have progressed. I thus claim the 1000 XMR.

I think we require a verbal discussion on this matter in the future...


1. We don't need causality, for as long as it holds, then increasing adoption must increase the market cap. If it fails to hold, then we will have disproven the correlation. Thus it is a worthwhile experiment which some altcoin should have done long ago.

2. Irrelevant. This exemplifies your lower IQ. Fact is investors don't spend as much of their coins as non-investors do, thus more non-investors means more transactions per money supply.

TADA!

Monero will be destroyed. Any one want to wager a bet?

The one comma that could have been entered into that sentence would have been borderline superfluous.

People aren't hating on him for his religion so much as

1. his homophobia
2. his embarrassing fascination with himself
3. his neverending quest for attention on this forum
4. his persistent, cult-like shilling for Monero, day and night
5. his insistence on defending debunked theories and analyses
6. his utter self-assurance that he is smarter than you, even after proven wrong

I'm glad we agree on this.


We nave no experience with cryptocoins used primarily by non-investors, with the possible exception of DOGE, and that didn't turn out terrifically well. So there is no data against which this hypothesis might be tested.


The reasonable expectation is that any particular experiment in this space will likely end short of complete success. I hesitate to use words like "destroyed" or "failure" because lessons learned can be carried over to the next experiment.

When I'm less bored with you and your "This is my farewell post!" antics I will address your misapplications of both Gresham's Law and the QTM, but that is most certainly not the case now. It's an easy exercise for someone else who wants to take it up though.

homophobia - if it matched the proper definition would mean irrational fear of gays.  

having anything except the socially correct view of it makes you a homophobe.  

http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/06/does-mozilla-dumping-its-ceo-over-prop-8http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/06/does-mozilla-dumping-its-ceo-over-prop-8

this is just one of many complex social issues that is being simplified by categorizing anyone without the proper social wordview (of which there are many differing non socially acceptable views) with a blanket derogatory term.

the issue has nothing to do with gays.  rather making it acceptable to demonize and punish anyone who does not hold the correct wordview.

Segregation was pretty hip and worldview at one point, too. Still is in certain parts, I'm told.

Risto, forget the bible and be openly gay! Change cigars to the real thing (if you haven't done it already)!  ;D

http://queereka.com/files/2014/04/kdq-pride-300x198.jpg

Very much this!

To be honest it think it would be 10000000 times worse to be called a communist then national socialist.

I use bitcoin all the time. even during the boom i used bitcoin. i've even done a few in person transactions will zealous hillbillies. Perhaps you are projecting abit..

Do you really think that is, in the aggregate, highly significant relative to the amount of speculative activity? I don't. At the height of Silk Road it is possible there were a lot of non-speculative transactions. Outside of that time period I doubt it. Admittedly I don't have any hard data either way.

I wholly reject a 10x increase in non-speculative activity over a relatively short time though. That simply didn't happen.

EDIT: Let me expand on this thought a bit. If the Peter R chart showed an important link between non-speculative use (what the Farewell Post Princess called "users" as opposed to "investors") then the relationship should have broken down during the 10x runups. It didn't. The chart simply shows that activity is correlated with price, but there is no basis there for disqualifying speculative activity as being critical to the correlation. Quite the contrary.

Fair point. I deleted all my replies.

Now back to your regularly scheduled repitela bashing.

Yes fucking nazis i wanna torture them to death for being so undemocratic and inhumane!
(please note the person dont have to be a "nazi", just the assumption that someone are gives you the right to freely torture them)
They have 0 respect for human life thats why i cant to crush them with a Caterpillar!
If he is not pro HBTQRDTERSIUTERA-rights due to religious beliefs he fucking deserves to be burned alive in the name of sexual freedom!

Since were dealing in opinions here, this is mine. The Peter R chart only proves the willingness for people to blindly trust data as truth without investigation or research. I just don't buy the validity of the methods used to discern an investor from a "user". I think the data is invalid and made up.

FYI, you are using a complete BS straw man argument, also an association fallacy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Most arguments that support homosexual new-worldview are straw man arguments or are association fallacies.

The very core moral position of homosexuality being wholesome is a daisy chained list of false arguments: natural, compassionate, emotional, loving, against religion. blah blah blah blah blah

If there is a single defining world event that epitomizes the group think of the modern internet community it is the embracing of homosexuality based on a never ending attack on logic and reason.

The most Hilarious reality is that the belief system built up to support of homosexuality is actually a new religion, of course ironically most homosexual supports actually abhor religion, unless i guess it is the one of their own making.

The second time you have pulled the Strawman, and the seond time you have then made an absurd argument, which is actually ..... fallacious!

Tragic.

Lol irony.

He just made the most valid argument point ever.. Nothing absurd about it. Nothing absurd about telling a honest truth, it is the truth that is absurd in this case.

How I am not open minded? I just have made an observation: Whenever someone gets legit rich (as in a lot of money) and I ask them to tell me about it, theres always a BIG element of luck that was outside the person's control. They often like to downplay this or even totally deny any luck when they tell their "how did I get rich" stories because then the story becomes less interesting. I wanted to see if your story would be different but you avoided getting into detail with it.

It is called "luck" when they have tirelessly done things that have a low % of success, and a big payout, and it finally happens.

In the same way as buying lottery coupons, yes.

The difference is not whether luck is involved, it is in that entrepreneurship itself is based on skill and has a +EV, buying lottery coupons is neither.