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Title: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 23, 2012, 06:41:43 AM
As it has been a bit calm here lately:

It would be nice to have a bitcoin day to "celebrate our independence from the central bankers" as anonymous put it (see link below).

I invite you to present your nomination in this thread so we can then vote.


previous suggestions:

January 3rd    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=25900.0
   genesis block date
   the obvious one but not a good date imho because lots of people are on holiday and still have a hangover

February 9th
  first time Bitcoin / USD parity

December 12th    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54386 (Satoshi Nakamoto Day)
   last message from the great leader



I would prefer a day in summer, though. Ideas?




Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 23, 2012, 06:42:11 AM
some people reserve the second post, I have no idea why but will do too


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 23, 2012, 07:17:13 AM
Three calendar years.  

One of the highlights last year on this date was that Bitcoin had reached "thousands of nodes".  That same metric ended up at tens of thousands of nodes during the summer (using the same metric: http://stats.bitcoin.it/rrd/nodes_total-year.png ).  Other node count methods calculate differently: http://bitcoinstats.org/count.html for example.

Last's year's birthday post:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579.0

I can't find the post but since the generation of blocks rather than the calendar time is more important, there have been suggestions to not use calendar time then to mark a "birthday".

Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks.  Or every 52,500 blocks -- roughly one year, but will vary based on rates of change of difficulty.  This would put the birthday in December this year.  About December 9th, to be more specific.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: R- on April 23, 2012, 07:22:53 AM
Put it on a regular boring day that isn't a holiday. That way, people can rejoice, skip work or school and have a warm fuzzy feeling bout Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 23, 2012, 07:34:33 AM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 23, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
Put it on a regular boring day that isn't a holiday. That way, people can rejoice, skip work or school and have a warm fuzzy feeling bout Bitcoin.
+1  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 23, 2012, 10:16:57 AM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?

 ???   did anything happen last week?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on April 23, 2012, 10:17:22 AM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?

 ???   did anything happen last week?

US Tax day.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 23, 2012, 10:21:17 AM
Three calendar years.  

One of the highlights last year on this date was that Bitcoin had reached "thousands of nodes".  That same metric ended up at tens of thousands of nodes during the summer (using the same metric: http://stats.bitcoin.it/rrd/nodes_total-year.png ).  Other node count methods calculate differently: http://bitcoinstats.org/count.html for example.

Last's year's birthday post:
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2579.0

I can't find the post but since the generation of blocks rather than the calendar time is more important, there have been suggestions to not use calendar time then to mark a "birthday".

Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks.  Or every 52,500 blocks -- roughly one year, but will vary based on rates of change of difficulty.  This would put the birthday in December this year.  About December 9th, to be more specific.


yeah, block height is cooler.

but 262,500  hmmmm   315,000, 367,500,...   why did the great one not make it every 200,000 blocks 

edit: also the block reward change is a big event of its own - we need an additional bitcoin day :)

to be honest I had hoped for a date that would come up in the next couple of months...



Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 23, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
How about April 17th so that we can both rejoice and be reminded that the game is not over yet?

 ???   did anything happen last week?

US Tax day.

It was the 17th this year because the 15th fell on the weekend. But my dad was born on the 17th in 1938 (RIP, you old fart [he knows its not in disrespect])

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7119/7106302687_c11e76a947.jpg
Dad showing off the last walleye he caught.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 24, 2012, 02:14:04 PM
@Phin: you are classic


another date of importance is the creation date of satoshi's paper: March, 24th 2009



Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: mila on April 24, 2012, 02:20:37 PM
May 22
first real world transaction ever settled with bitcoins (2010 two pizzas for 10.000 bitcoins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 24, 2012, 03:07:49 PM
May 22
first real world transaction ever settled with bitcoins (2010 two pizzas for 10.000 bitcoins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195

that is the thing!

bitcoin pizza day! on that day every bitcoin believer must order a pizza for bitcoins!

Looking forward to the day I get 10.000 pizzas for two bitcoins  8)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: mc_lovin on April 24, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
May 22
first real world transaction ever settled with bitcoins (2010 two pizzas for 10.000 bitcoins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195
My birthday is May 21, so I support this decision!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Portnoy on April 24, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...

Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
I like it having a floating date instead of pinning it down, and will make it something that will generate a lot of buzz and anticipation as the date approaches. That may make it like the flash mob phenomena in some ways.

/edit the best celebrations are not those we plan and organize ahead of time but those which just happen... organically; spontaneously.    


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 24, 2012, 05:00:30 PM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...

Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
I like it having a floating date instead of pinning it down, and will make it something that will generate a lot of buzz and anticipation as the date approaches. That may make it like the flash mob phenomena in some ways.

/edit the best celebrations are not those we plan and organize ahead of time but those which just happen... organically; spontaneously.    

Something like a random date generator picked the previous year via a notable pushing a button.

http://ewinsidetv.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/house_l.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: wareen on April 24, 2012, 07:22:35 PM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...
Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
The block-parties every 210,000 blocks will surely happen anyway, so we already have such a very special celebration.

It can't hurt though to have another Bitcoin day to celebrate every year and a floating date according to block-height would be very appropriate. I like the 52,500th block idea since it is the most logical one, but it will probably stay in winter for a long time. Anyway, here's a few alternatives from the top of my head:

- Once every 50,000 blocks or roughly 11.6 months. Pretty intuitive, would not collide with the block-partys and soon be in summer. Projected dates for the next 5 years:
  • 2012: October 1st
  • 2013: September 13th
  • 2014: August 26th
  • 2015: August 8th
  • 2016: July 21st

- Once every 2^16=65536 blocks or roughly every 15 months. Would not collide with a block-party within the next 50,000 years but there would be years without a Bitcoin day and it is probably a bit too nerdy - even for Bitcoin ;) Projected dates for the next 5 years:
  • 2012: September 7th
  • 2013: December 6th
  • 2014: none
  • 2015: March 6th
  • 2016: June 4th

- Pick a good (notable) calendar date and take the nearest 10,000th block. That would mean it could only vary about +-2 months around that day and therefore stay roughly in the same season every year.

- Celebrate the 10th difficulty adjustment every year. Would always be around spring.

- Countdown to the last Satoshi. The block with the last Satoshi ever to be mined will be 6,929,999. Divide that by 100 and you have kind of a percentage counter for Bitcoin which will increase roughly every 16 months. A nice property but maybe too long a cycle. Projected dates for the next 5 years:
  • 2012: November 25th
  • 2013: none
  • 2014: March 21st
  • 2015: July 15th
  • 2016: November 7th


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Portnoy on April 24, 2012, 07:49:19 PM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...
Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
The block-parties every 210,000 blocks will surely happen anyway, so we already have such a very special celebration.

Which is kinda my point. We already have a natural candidate for a "Bitcoin Day" that people will already celebrate
without need of them being coaxed or enticed. We don't need to try and contrive something else.

I suppose there is always the fear, for some, that Bitcoin may not last another four years... which, I feel, will make
it all the more worth celebrating when the day arrives.

My opinions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: wareen on April 24, 2012, 08:03:26 PM
I suppose there is always the fear, for some, that Bitcoin may not last another four years...
I don't think that's the problem, it's just too long to wait :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 24, 2012, 08:44:31 PM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...
Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
The block-parties every 210,000 blocks will surely happen anyway, so we already have such a very special celebration.

Which is kinda my point. We already have a natural candidate for a "Bitcoin Day" that people will already celebrate
without need of them being coaxed or enticed. We don't need to try and contrive something else.

I suppose there is always the fear, for some, that Bitcoin may not last another four years... which, I feel, will make
it all the more worth celebrating when the day arrives.

My opinions.
On the block reward change dates (is there a better name?) all bitcoineers' attention will be on the system and markets. For outsiders this has not much meaning. I thought about the bitcoin day more as a marketing thing.

@wareen: thanks for your analysis and ideas



Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: adamstgBit on April 24, 2012, 09:57:08 PM
Independence Day!

lets give new meaning to the 4th of july


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 25, 2012, 04:03:00 AM
Independence Day!

lets give new meaning to the 4th of july

Other countries have different independence days.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2012, 05:28:19 AM
Every day is bitcoin day  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: giszmo on April 25, 2012, 09:33:04 PM
It has to be something with a positive idea for outsiders. Satoshi's last message (is he dead?) or reward getting split (Am I less of an early adopter now?) are both sad events at least at first sight. Parity day is a USA thing, only and very technical. What if rate goes down to parity again?

I vote for bitcoin pizza day! Pizza is positive. If pizzerias offer pizza for bitcoin for that one day only and if it is with the help of some local geeks, this could help get bitcoins to brick and mortar business in general, too. And the pizza bakers might like the story of those two now super expensive pizzas ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: doobadoo on April 26, 2012, 01:12:27 AM
May 22
first real world transaction ever settled with bitcoins (2010 two pizzas for 10.000 bitcoins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195

that is the thing!

bitcoin pizza day! on that day every bitcoin believer must order a pizza for bitcoins!

Looking forward to the day I get 10.000 pizzas for two bitcoins  8)

What would be great about that is we could track the purchasing power of bitcoin against the value of a pizza.  Pizza is likely to be around a really long time, so future generations would likely be able to continue to celebrate.

What I like about is that we could schedule local meetups at pizzeria's.  It will be a great way to create some IRL bitcoin actions.  Every major city could pick a pizzeria and as it grows bigger and bigger we will see the price of pizza in Bitcoin come down with an ever bigger crowd.  Is pizza something that is eaten all over the world?  Would people in just about every country be able to participate?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: doobadoo on April 26, 2012, 01:13:51 AM
Since bitcoin has an event every 210,000 blocks whose timing roughly correlates to an occurance once every four years, how about timing the event to one fourth of that 210,000 blocks...

Why does it have to be every year? Why can't it be every four years like the Olympics or the World Cup. It will make it a more special celebration people will look forward to.
I like it having a floating date instead of pinning it down, and will make it something that will generate a lot of buzz and anticipation as the date approaches. That may make it like the flash mob phenomena in some ways.

/edit the best celebrations are not those we plan and organize ahead of time but those which just happen... organically; spontaneously.    

Yeah but a fixed date allow us to put it in the Wiki, and a fixed date is easier to remember.  Unless its my anniversary.  Better to have a floating date for that!  :o


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: doobadoo on April 26, 2012, 01:17:21 AM

On the block reward change dates (is there a better name?)


Yeah its the day everyone in the Bitcoin community holds their breath that the drop doesn't cause the hash rate to plunge and enter a downward spiral as people sell out and shutdown their rigs...

Followed by a 51% attack launched by the black-ops arm of some national intelligence agency looking to kill the greatest currency ever devised by man.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Bitcoin ShitList on April 26, 2012, 01:25:54 AM
We already have the Bitcoin Pizza and everything.
I advise people see the full resolution picture for maximum effect.

Sample:
http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/a-pizza-dos-10000-bitcoins-453x443.png

Link for full-res http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/a-pizza-dos-10000-bitcoins.png

Source: http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/04/14/a-pizza-que-custou-10-000-bitcoins/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: doobadoo on April 26, 2012, 01:30:44 AM
We already have the Bitcoin Pizza and everything.

Shit you just gave me a huge idea.  On the Bitcoin day, the client can change the startup splash screen to a pizza.  And maybe embed some kind of other creative easter eggs.  Maybe a dialog can pop up with a link to meetup.com/bitcoinpizzaday so people can find where their local meetup is that day!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: Foxpup on April 26, 2012, 07:28:24 AM
Shit you just gave me a huge idea.  On the Bitcoin day, the client can change the startup splash screen to a pizza.  And maybe embed some kind of other creative easter eggs.  Maybe a dialog can pop up with a link to meetup.com/bitcoinpizzaday so people can find where their local meetup is that day!

This is hugely stupid idea, and if you knew how the average person reacts when the software they're using to manage financial transactions suddenly starts doing all kinds of crazy shit for no apparent reason, you'd understand why. ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on April 26, 2012, 08:00:22 AM
http://bitcoinx.com/pics/bitcoin_pizza_web.png

yummy!

high res: http://bitcoinx.com/pics/bitcoin_pizza.jpg
source: http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/04/14/a-pizza-que-custou-10-000-bitcoins/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: phelix on May 01, 2012, 09:27:00 AM
May 22
first real world transaction ever settled with bitcoins (2010 two pizzas for 10.000 bitcoins)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.msg1195#msg1195

Bitcoin Pizza Day is coming up in three weeks. Let's just give it a try  ;D


maybe we can even get a comment from laszlo


Title: Re: Bitcoin Day - Nominations
Post by: LightRider on May 01, 2012, 10:47:45 AM
Pizza Pi Day = 3/14

I personally advocate celebrating every day that the three arms of the bitcoin clock align.

http://bitcoinclock.com/